Actually I think it much simpler than inertial dampeners. His main piece of equipment in the suit are his repulsors. The equipment used to make his compact propulsion system which have been stated in continuity to be a compressed neutrons as opposed to 'lasers'. These have constantly been shown to only hold things in place or lightly push objects at their lowest settings. In essence, Tony can use his repulsors to push someone out of the way from a distance if need be. As such its not unreasonable to think that the inside of each suit is armed with low yield repulsors meant specifically to protect his body from the fatal G-forces he would experience on a regular basis. This is why in the movies there is so much talked about his power levels even though he has an arc reactor in his chest. The reactor still uses the palladium and then later "New Element" cores on a regular basis. Now knowing that Tony's single pacemaker/ repulsor heart protection can power a whole city for approximately a week on one core. I know running JARVIS and the basic functions don't take that much power that quickly. The power usually gets used up quickly when he takes more hits. Also considering that with all the damage he typically takes in battle and comes out typically unscathed its also comes to reason that this set up also protects him more than the metal of the armor does. So yeah, taking all this to account what protects Tony Stark as Iron Man isn't so much the metal of the armor, but a repulsor field that in essence puts his body in a protective stasis while he is controlling the armor. With that until Extremis was ran by eye movement and simple motor functions of his hands and feet. But that is something for another video I guess.
+Anime - Mun reading this comment really made me re-think all the movies. It makes a lot more sense why his power would go down after getting hit. (since the opposing theory would be his power is just leaking out all the dents????? not as scientifically sound.)
+XenoCorp Thanks. I was able to piece this together from my knowledge of the comics combined from understanding such concepts from other sci-fi franchises.
+Robert Jonsson Not quite. Repulsors tied to a power curve would work for this purpose. Absorbing and dissipating the energy is the key, no different from compressing a modern military pilots G-suit. Sensors with high polling rates detect external forces on the suit or control inputs into the aircraft, then the suits programming takes over to expand and contract certain parts of the body to prevent black-out and red-out. This is also one factor the video and Sci-Fi in general tends to overlook, it's just just the direct physical damage at stake, the pilots very consciousness is a factor as well. Clearly the Iron Man suit must possess a counter to this, and a repulsor field would be a viable method of uniformly compressing the body as well as modulating to cushion specific impacts.
He's in a full-containment power armor suit that weighs less than 250 lbs (425 with wearer) that can take a hit from a tank round, powered by a micro-fusion reactor the size of a fist, flying around on extremely-high-powered reactionless thrusters whose total volume is a few cubic inches each. You think he doesn't have a solution for acceleration stresses on the human body?
***** Based solely on this video, if they taught science like this guy, there would be a lot more deaths. Here's what he actually said, in a nutshell: there is no explanation for Iron Man's nonsensical movement in the movies except a made-up concept borrowed from an equally nonsensical sci-fi franchise. BECAUSE SCIENCE! Don't get me wrong; I love sci-fi. But let's not confuse concepts made up by writers to do whatever they want without any actual science behind them with actual science. Inertial dampers, subspace, alternate realities, time travel, hyperspeed, and all the others are just there for the sake of story. They don't actually exist, and they often don't make sense because not all writers are smart. Let's take a look at a recent sci-fi movie that seems to have been very popular: Big Hero Five. At the end, [SPOILER ALERT], the robot fires his rocket punch to propel his friend and the girl they came to save back through the stargate while he is sent hurling backwards through space. The writers here wanted a noble sacrifice because tear-jerking makes people think stories are good. If the robot had put his (its?) back against the pod and fired the rocket punch into space, he would have gone back with the two humans and not died like a dumbass. They would have only needed to replace his hand. But Hollywood writers go for emotional moments and what "looks cool" without any pragmatic thinking. And THAT is the real reason Iron Man can do the impossible things he does in the movies. Man, that was long. I guess I had to get it off my chest. ^^ tl;dr: Hollywood writers go for emotional moments and what "looks cool" without any pragmatic thinking.
I have a theory that his suit actually keeps him at a point where is whole body can create lift. So he's technically in free-fall but can change direction thanks to his hand thrusters and air brakes. this would negate serious G-forces from mincing him but it still wouldn't be fun pulling a hard nose up, or flaring (slowing down by use of the flying body) hard like he does in the movie.
I think before considering G force effects on Stark's body, we should talk about how can he be a billionaire, playboy, philanthropist, expert in avionics, rockets, explosives, metallurgy, optics (lasers), energy reactors, nuclear physics, thermodynamics, quantum physics, magnetism, electronics, software optimization, cyber warfare, system engineering, AI programming, molecular science, genetic engineering.. (list goes on) at the same time while fighting against alcoholism. How he did not get a concussion when Thor punched him and he got knocked 20 meters back? How could his arm endure under the tensile stress when his suit arm pulled him under wreckage when Jarvis couldn't get him out with a full body armor thrust (or pretty much everything in Ironman 3 movie). The subject which you are nerding about is a middle school physics teacher level drop in a sea.
***** Close, more like a gel layer similar to what the MJOLNIR armor has from Halo. Except you still need unbreakable bones to pilot MJOLNIR, so there's that.
Forget flying, what about getting hit with a tank shell. Some specs on tank shell: - Shell muzzle velocity - 1750 m/s - Shell caliber - 120 mm - Shell weight 18.6 kg Lets say the shell velocity slows to 1500 m/s when it hits its target, then it is imparting 27,900 kgm/s (1500 m/s X 18.6 Kg) worth of energy and its being concentrated to an area of 120 mm, maybe 150 mm after distortion of shell. Now here is the mind blowing stuff, tank shells don't deform easily, they will maintain its shape even after penetrating 30 cm worth of plate armor (so that means Iron man got hit with such force on an effective area of a few mm); the iron man suit isn't even remotely close to that thickness. Oh yeah and he just took such a blast and stood up like nothing happened. Some noteworthy shell penetration pics: www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/4f3bmHe.jpg s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/3b/ae/af/3baeaf7f1ebe7ccae1c4a6ce74af2230.jpg Nomenclature: mm - millimeter cm - centimeter kg - kilograms m/s - meters per second kgm/s - kilogram meter per second (units for momentum)
LoL, having recently watch the winter soldier, can you explain some logic to me. Tony survives great falls (Iron man 3 when the suit lost power) and survive with little scratches, Rody falls about the same height (if not less) in winter soldier and nearly died. What kind of logic is that?
If we take the repulsion/magnetic field theory that prevent him from .... well die, even if the energy of the suit is low like 1 percent, we are talking about 1 percent of the energy needed to feed a city for a week, when warmachine was shoot down he took a direct hit to the ark reactor witch mean no power at all. when the ark reactor in warmachine was hit Rody was fine, after the crash he nearly dies, so basically no power, no field = you are dead. Something similar happened to tony after deal with the nuke in avengers, he was falling and his suit was rebooting, hulk catch him and he end unconscious, but he was fine before that, just with out power. Contrary to being hit by a tank or being blend in the helicarrier turbines, the suit took damage but he doesn't and in both cases the suit had energy.
Tony can probably convert mass into Ego and vice versa without losing an erg of potential energy. If inertia works only on mass, the EGO will stay un-inerted ;)
+Naruto1234119 Word...the marvel universe is in shambles because too many people contributed and none of their ideas make coherent sense or were meant to.
Even if there's some dampening fluid between his body and the suit, there's no dampening fluid inside Tony's body. When I was in college, I saw a talk by an aeronautical engineer where he suggested filling your lungs with an incompressible oxygen-solvating fluid, such as a chlorofluorocarbon. That way, with nothing sloshing around in the body, your innards could survive high-g accelerations.
shygirl101020 Because it is super hard alloy that is chemically recompiled by a special kind of bacteria. Similar to how Cap's shield was created, the armor is designed on the molecular level, making it have high resistance with very little weight for such a large suit of armor.
This is great! My kids and I love watching these videos together. They are clean, very well made, and my kids are learning a lot. Thanks and keep it up!
Well (in the comics) Stark has armor called "bleeding edge armor", which is basically stored in his bones and controlled with his mind. So, with this certain armor, technically it is a part of him, hence he IS the armor.
Actually, water is not compressible. The ironman suit does have a water filtration feature, but that's not what keeps Tony safe. There's a spongy micro metamaterial that his undergarments are made of, and the inner lining of each of the pieces of the ironman suit is made from. Otherwise, the rockets in his boots would instantly rip his legs clean off, and his flight stabilizers would snap his hands off at the wrists.
frosted1030 I don't think those spongy micro metamaterials would work theoretically, let alone realistically. And let's say those materials do work on the outside of Stark's body, his internal organs would all still be squished from those g forces.
GuyWithAnAmazingHat The metamaterials absorb the energy and recycle it into the suit's power systems. In real life, graphene can do this. A combination of graphene and aerogel could be used for these purposes, of course, in real life, no one would try it out on themselves first.
frosted1030 metamaterials like graphene can indeed do this but the only way this would work for Iron Man is if Tony's body is infused with the stuff completely so that the energy absorption happens everywhere (including the brain fluid and everything holding your internal organs together). It's conceivable that the Extremis serum he took in the comics has this component.
***** in the ultimate comics, at least at first there was a gell that filled the suit this blue goo that would stick to him when he got out. For 616 and the Cinimatic Universe probably inirtal dampers i mean the Repulsors are a heatleass, frictionless concussive wave form that provises thrust and impact that could easily be allpied to a inertial damper and hell he's had stright up forcefields on more then one suit
***** Firstly, a way to manipulate machines with your brain has not been discovered. A computer that allows the user to send signals has been invented....totally different. Microscopic life on mars has not been discovered, only hypothesized de to findings, and the light barrier has not been broken, it is only under speculation that It CAN be done. Also, I don't have to prove you wrong. Since none of these things have happened, you have the burden of proof. Its like telling me to prove Bigfoot doesn't exist.
GenericNerd yes, but like I said, its only a theory. NOTHING that advanced has been invented, that we know of. I mean come on, we can't even get enough people interested to go to the moon again.
Why doesn't it kill him when he makes a 90 degree turn? Well mostly because hes not making a 90% turn for starters. You can even see in the movies the contrail hes leaving behind (a contrail is a trail of ice crystals btw) has a very gradual slope to it. Hes not exactly turning in just a few feet, that suit is flying at a few hundred miles an hour just to stair airborne, hes traveled several yards in the time it takes him to go up a few feet.
same thing I was thinking about the ending of the video... how can you compare a car crash to an iron man turn... I always thought he just moves his momentum with him like an invisible roller coaster ride.
+SS2LP Technically it's still a 90 degree turn, be it sharp or not. Still, turning as fast as he is with the velocities we see in the movies he'd kill himself. Also when he lands on the ground etc. If you've played a flying sim or Warthunder you get a glimpse of how it works. It's not about how many yards he's travelled, it's about how many seconds he uses to change direction, or increase/decrease velocity. (Changing the direction of your velocity is also a form of accelleration, in physics)
LoserEater303 How about flying a real airplane and doing that same kind of thing. For the matter I wouldn't be around if making a 90 degree turn at mach 1 killed you since my father got a ride in a t-38 before he was discharged from the air force and did a 90 at near mach 1. So please know what you're talking about before you correct somebody.
***** Okey, I'm sorry. I really don't know the limit to which humans die from "G-forces", but I know there is one. I also know that you'll experience some rather uncomfortable effects as blood drains from or gets pushed up to your head, depending on the turn. As I already touched on, a turn can technically be 90 degrees even if you spend 3 hours taking the turn. The degree is not what's important. What's important is how fast you turn, and your speed.
One thing you forget is that currently as we debate this, the military has developed gel-lined Kevlar suits that will stop/re-direct the inertia of a bullet. I guess the same could be said the Tony's IM armor. Also, there is currently in development for lack of a better term "force-fields" being experimented with that use electromagnets to "dampen" inertia. These of course are still in their infancy, but remember Tony Stark is supposed to be a genius, so I guess he would have perfected this in the MCU. That being said, I don't think he actually made a "90 degree" turn it looked more like a curve witch still would be hard to do.
I know exactly what inertia is. And a bullet hitting a vest, and being absorbed by the vest has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with what happens in the human body when it is slowed down. In this comparison, the human body is the bullet, and the human bodies inertia would be stopped by a suit lined with that material. Just as the bullet would be utterly destroyed, which is part of what stops/redirects it's inertia, the body would be utterly destroyed as well. Why? Because science.
It doesn't matter. Stark's body will still experience the force. And even if let's assume he doesn't. He's internal organs will cause you may stop the rigid parts of his body but you can't the liquid and non attached ones.
when I look at the movies, it dosen't look like stark is making a full ninety degree turn, but (as you said) a more gradual turn, whereby he also shifts slightly in the other direction before making that turn. Now, the sudden stop is not as sudden as it looks. Stark slows himself to a speed that wouldn't hurt very much if at all before he impacts the ground.
Is it wrong that I liked this video straight after the marker hit Kyle on the head? That's dedication to the job, but I hope you remembered to enter it in the accident book :o)
Really, if you think about it, the inertia problems sort of aren't, simply because of the way the suit moves. It's impossible for Tony to take that perfect 90 degree turn, because he doesn't have retro-rockets on his front to instantly cancel his velocity and counter his inertia. Instead, when he's turning, there's that period of time where he's stopped firing his thrusters full-bore to move his arms and legs (and whole body, really) into the new position to launch himself in a different direction- a repositioning which is aided by air brakes in different parts of the suit. And when he's not doing one of those mid-air flip style turns, he's not actively cancelling his forward inertia at all, but rather removing his forward thrust, replacing it with downwards or upwards thrust and letting air-resistance slow his horizontal movement. We don't see this, because the camera is following him, but seeing the example turn from the side at a distance would probably look a lot like the curve Kyle drew, rather than an angle. Really, it's not the repulsors that're what make's the Iron Man suit fly so well- any bald-headed fool can make rocket boots (lookin' at you, Obidiah)- it's the computer systems in conjunction with the myriad air-brakes and organization of flaps arrayed around the suit that allow for that incredible mid-air maneuverability- acting as the individual feathers of a bird in flight to subtly adjust and shape the drag and airflow around him in response to his body and the data Jarvis collects about atmospheric conditions. This is why the icing was such a major issue- it didn't just make him heavier or make him cold, it froze up his control surfaces taking away his ability to turn in midair and causing feedback to the computer systems.
Ok you can question how does he survive the g force, but I'm much more impressed with how is he able to construct rockets and thrusters that have basically zero size. And basically invincible armor that is the thickness of tin foil (almost). And weapons and rockets and all those components that fold into themselves until there is very little left. I feel the g forces would be no more than an afterthought at this point.
+morbik Unless you have Time Lord Tech, allowing you to make things bigger on the inside... In which case, he can easily deal with the G-forces, since he has plenty of room to work with.
Morbik in marvel universe there's a special type of metal called vibranium (it is included in some of the movies) and it is really, teally, really strong and light, something like graphene in our world
***** There is no reason for that to be impossible. In fact, I believe you can actually already buy a remote controlled cockroach. Just a cockroach with some device stuck in its brain and you can control it from your phone.
***** basically, the Eva pilot interfaces with the biomechanical unit's own brain directly (similar to what they show in Pacific Rim with the two pilots). Essentially if you can tune the brain waves to synchronize you can create a telepathic link between them. This is why it is also possible for the Eva brain to encroach into its pilot's brain when the failsafes that prevent it malfunction, making the Eva go berserk and leaving the pilot in a fugue state.
if you notice in the movies he is doing a curved 90 degree turn. he is also when he lands coming in at an angle with the bottom half of his body moving from horizontal to verticle and his head staying still as a pivot point. this gives him the ability to control his brain from having energy exerted on it by keeping it stationary. he gives his own head its own seatbelt by keeping it as a pivot point
he has flaps and extra wing panels on his shoulders and calves to give him lift and change his directions like jet planes. he has multiple ones as well as thrusters on his sides to give him a sharper turn
Ja d he definitely doesnt turn by the same means a plane does. That wouldnt work for a humanoid shape. He turns simply by pointing different thrusters in the appropriate directions.
None of these proposed technologies would work properly in the space of Tony's suit though. The distance and speed with which these "dampeners" have to work is respectively way too small and high. Similarly, it makes nearly zero sense how, just because his suit is strong and durable, he gets no concussive injury when punched by Hulk or smashed by a huge rock.
The internal layer of the suit could be lined with hexagonal flat surfaced friction springs or pneumatic pistons at most 1cm across and 1 cm in depth each this would probably be a sufficient dampener for this theory. i think
I’m more wondering how he can take a hit from Thor without dying. It’s armor so it blocks it without breaking... but the force would still transfer to his body no?
Iron man suit violates the 1st law of thermodynamics-"Energy can neither be created nor destroyed". I know that the suit is a fiction but making such a suit will create a new revolution of destruction.
Tripleshotz __________________ Iron man's arc reactor is generating the energy but from where?? Energy can be only transformed from one form to another. His arc reactor doesn't make any sense.
Also how does he control his suit?how does he fly?he just makes a hand gesture and the blast shoots automaticlly?or is he pressing some kind of button?
well the suit is fitted to tony...there is no room in there for him to wiggle around..imagine your car tightly wrapped around you..when it stops you stop..the suit absorbs most if not all the shock to his external..doesnt explain his organs though..ever feel like your stomach is moving on a roller coaster?
can somebody explain why in the vast majority of space shows, movies, books, etc. when a spaceship is moving why it doesn't keep on moving. there's nothing stopping it from going endlessly without the engines on so yeah...
your question is worded weird... the space ships have to stop themselves.....if they want to stop... with like front thrusters or some shit what the hell are you even talking about lol
+Giga Ware He means that they are always using thrusters. In a movie, ships always have their thrusters powering ahead, even after accelerating, yet miraculously stop when they're shut down, despite having no counter thrust. In other words, he's asking why there is no inertia once the propulsion system stops pushing. Although most (relatively) realistic movies do depict this, and less (relatively) realistic movies only throw in inertia when their ship runs out of power or has damaged thrusters and may float forever, dooming the crew.
+Anaithnid001 in every si-fi movie I've ever seen there's only inertia once the ship (like you said) runs out of power or is damaged but it would be much more realistic and smarter to accelerate to the desired speed then shut off the engines cause with gravity there's nothing stopping the ship from going endlessly and there should also be thrusters on the front of the ship to stop but there's none
the reactor generates electrons, the electrons go to the boots and gloves, the boots and gloves have capacitors that serve to control the demand for electrons, the electrons pass to the thrusters and stabilizers, where there are magnets that remove excess electrons by transforming them in muons that penetrate deep into atomic matter and pass through the glass without breaking it, creating an impulse force. that lets him on fly.
I like the theory of a special gravitational field acting as an inertial dampener because if you look at the images of tony inside the suite, it looks as if he is floating inside the helmet and is not touching any of the edges.
At all those accelerations and moves...how does the crap stays in Tony ? ( you know ...crap has inertia too ) , and why doesn't it flys all over in the suit ?:)))
0:24 It's because when making that turn he is "lying down" in a prone position, fighter pilots sit upright so when they pull G's it's exerted through their spine, when pulling G's in a prone position (actually been tested before but never implemented due to practicality issues) the G forces acting on your body are spread out over a larger area and therefore have less effect. Other than that there's probably as you said some SciFi technology.
Sigh... a number of scientific inaccuracies yet again. I applaud the effort to educate about science of films, etc... but come on. Air resistance doesn't bring the marker down -- once it starts falling (due to gravity), air resistance actually (tries to) keeps the marker in the air. Air resistance (aka friction) always acts against motion, not in a "fixed" direction like gravity.
Randy Sinnott The air resistance works against the upward motion of the marker (along with gravity). In a vacuum with only gravity working against this upward motion, the marker would take longer to lose this motion and thus would travel further up. So the air resistance does work to stop the upward motion, the first step in the marker coming back down, and thus helps in bringing it down.
Philip Hall You're correct Philip Hall. Without gravity though, the marker would stop and hang in mid-air, so it's a bit specious IMO to say "air resistance beings the marker down". While it does inhibit its upward motion, but it equally inhibits the downward motion. What brings the marker to the floor is gravity, plain and simple. Air resistance both brings it to the floor and keeps it from going to the floor (at different times). Consider these cases: Gravity, atmosphere: Falls to floor (this is the demonstrated case) Gravity, vacuum: Falls to floor (slightly slower than first case) No gravity, atmosphere: Pen slows and eventually floats motionless in mid-air when kinetic energy is completely dissipated by friction No gravity, vacuum: Pen just keeps going full speed in whatever direction it was projected. As you can see gravity is the causal factor, as the pen goes the the floor in all cases where it is present. The presence or absence of air (atmosphere) does not impact the pen falling to the floor. So while air resistance is present in the system Kyle demonstrated (and does admittedly impact the time spectrum we're concerned with), it is in no way the *cause* of the demonstrated effect.
Randy Sinnott But what he said was that it was both gravity and air resistance working to bring it back to the ground ... Which is true ... So while gravity is the bigger factor in bringing the marker down, it's not wrong to state that air resistance works to bring it back down. So it's not a scientific inaccuracy to state so.
Philip Hall It's also scientifically accurate to say that air resistance is working to keep the marker from hitting the ground (during the downward part of its flight). The complete and accurate statement is "Air resistance is working to bring the pen to the ground while it is travelling away from the ground. When the pen is travelling towards the ground, air resistance is working to keep the pen from hitting the ground." Gravity is the only factor in bringing it towards the ground. Air resistance inhibits motion, in this case motion away from the ground which is different than causing downward movement. So yes, the statement re:air resistance is accurate while the pen travels upwards -- but that's only half the story :)
Randy Sinnott This is more of a trivial argument. We all understood what he meant, (forces acting upon the marker to prevent it from continuing), and he is not wrong.
But tony said it in a movie. He said that there are these things that basically make him float in his suit so he doesn't die. That's why Rodey got hurt in civil war.
it never answered the question. there are so many questionable things about the ironman suit. how he could manouver at mac speed without wings? how he protect his body when somebody throw him like a tennis ball? how he move like a normal human being when his wearing a half tone suit? how can he talk when he just want to talk jarvis and not to the opponent? how can he have so much strength when you dont have hydraulics system? there are so much tech goin on to that suit that in reality does not make sense until explained.
At times like when there are too many flaws in physics regarding Tony's suit, I just like to think that Tony has developed futuristic tech himself that is not open to the public, and it would make sense that we can't explain how he did it.
Inertial damping can be achieved using the paramagnetic effect, basically inside the suit would be a very strong electromagnet which activates and can prevent water molecules (which make up the majority of the weight of the human body) from moving within a body, protecting it from G-forces.
At no point during these maneuvers is he going near the speed of even high end prop fighters. He looks to be going that quickly due to his small size compared to an actual fighter, and his suit can travel at extreme speeds, but in every shot where he's maneuvering, he's traveling at reasonable speeds to do so
+ChromeFilms77 It doesn't help since when a pen falls, air resistance acts in the opposite direction to gravity. Air resistance doesn't bring a pen down, it just slows it down when it falls.
Your idea of fluid cushioning Tony inside the suit was used in Marvel's The Ultimates - an alternate form of the Avengers that takes place within Marvel's Ultimate Universe. However, when Black Widow asked Tony whether or not it was a good idea to throw back so many vodkas before putting his suit on, Tony replied with "Who'd get into it sober?" Pretty much indicating that such an experience would be quite uncomfortable
tony never makes 90 degree turns. if you watch closely every single turn he makes is sloped. even when he puts his thrusters directly in front of himself he"ll slow down before stopping.
Actually its a lot simpler than something like Inertial Dampers or anything like that. He just has padding on the inside of the suit that protects him from the inertia he would experience from doing those sorts of things. Its not shown in the movies, but in the comics, the suit has padding on the inside of it.
Back from the first Ironman movie, he calls Rhodie in the suit and he asks 'Why are you out of breathe?' Means he's dealing the all the G Force. As Astronauts do, Tony eventually gets use to the G Force of the acceleration. And the suit would calculate and use the dampers to slow down at a safe enough speed where he could land without injury. and cuz he is Ironman
If anyone here has ever read Marvel's "The Ultimates" series, the explanation from this video (cerebral spinal fluid inside the suit) is actually used in this series, as every time Tony pops out of it, he's covered in a green gel that does indeed serve this purpose.
Maybe the inside of his body is also supported by the suit. As weird as it may seem, he already did do one surgery involving electronic implants. He could have some sort of metal second skeleton, and interior cushions for squishy things like brains, which connect to the suit when he puts it on.
Someone a few decades ago was doing experiments into the effectiveness of 4 harness seatbelts. He was on a seat on a track, basically propelled by rockets, with a buffer like a train buffer at the end, which he slammed into at high speed. The footage I saw on the documentary was in black and white, so when they filmed his face his eyes just looked black, due to the blood vessels bursting.
tony made his suit to fit him perfectly and plus if he would fly like that he wouldnt get a concussion because you can only get a concussion when you hit your head to a certain object
When he said "inertial dampers" I immediately thought of all the times in Star Trek you hear "inertial dampers have failed along with life support systems.....[tech]"
when he said "but first we must go back to the birth of physics" I thought he was gonna say "first let's ask our self's, what is physics?" if you watch big bang theory you'll understand the reference 😂
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Thor talking about iron man
With less muscle and a soft voice😜......
Its Donald Blake
More like Aquaman before Hollyweird race swapped him in the movies.
It's..... unnerving seeing how calm Kyle used to be and knowing the madness was always locked away inside him
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Relatable.
Actually I think it much simpler than inertial dampeners. His main piece of equipment in the suit are his repulsors. The equipment used to make his compact propulsion system which have been stated in continuity to be a compressed neutrons as opposed to 'lasers'. These have constantly been shown to only hold things in place or lightly push objects at their lowest settings. In essence, Tony can use his repulsors to push someone out of the way from a distance if need be. As such its not unreasonable to think that the inside of each suit is armed with low yield repulsors meant specifically to protect his body from the fatal G-forces he would experience on a regular basis.
This is why in the movies there is so much talked about his power levels even though he has an arc reactor in his chest. The reactor still uses the palladium and then later "New Element" cores on a regular basis. Now knowing that Tony's single pacemaker/ repulsor heart protection can power a whole city for approximately a week on one core. I know running JARVIS and the basic functions don't take that much power that quickly. The power usually gets used up quickly when he takes more hits. Also considering that with all the damage he typically takes in battle and comes out typically unscathed its also comes to reason that this set up also protects him more than the metal of the armor does. So yeah, taking all this to account what protects Tony Stark as Iron Man isn't so much the metal of the armor, but a repulsor field that in essence puts his body in a protective stasis while he is controlling the armor. With that until Extremis was ran by eye movement and simple motor functions of his hands and feet. But that is something for another video I guess.
+Anime - Mun reading this comment really made me re-think all the movies. It makes a lot more sense why his power would go down after getting hit. (since the opposing theory would be his power is just leaking out all the dents????? not as scientifically sound.)
+XenoCorp Thanks. I was able to piece this together from my knowledge of the comics combined from understanding such concepts from other sci-fi franchises.
+Anime - Mun so you know nothing of physics.....
+Robert Jonsson Not quite. Repulsors tied to a power curve would work for this purpose. Absorbing and dissipating the energy is the key, no different from compressing a modern military pilots G-suit. Sensors with high polling rates detect external forces on the suit or control inputs into the aircraft, then the suits programming takes over to expand and contract certain parts of the body to prevent black-out and red-out.
This is also one factor the video and Sci-Fi in general tends to overlook, it's just just the direct physical damage at stake, the pilots very consciousness is a factor as well. Clearly the Iron Man suit must possess a counter to this, and a repulsor field would be a viable method of uniformly compressing the body as well as modulating to cushion specific impacts.
Joe Huffman
repulsors doesnt exist, that was my point....
He's in a full-containment power armor suit that weighs less than 250 lbs (425 with wearer) that can take a hit from a tank round, powered by a micro-fusion reactor the size of a fist, flying around on extremely-high-powered reactionless thrusters whose total volume is a few cubic inches each. You think he doesn't have a solution for acceleration stresses on the human body?
+Perserra Exactly my thought lol
The suit might make some kind of g-force suit or space for Tony, when he is inside the Iron Man suit. You know like the westen jet pilots has on
Perserra Hehehee…
But can't beat Captain America hand to hand.
@@Danspy501st it doesn't matter. His brain and internals will still slam inside of him
Ya know.....If they taught math, chemistry, and physics more like this guy, there would no longer be a shortage of engineers in the world.
***** who said, there is a shortage of engineers in the world :D :D ... they're everywhere...
***** Dude, you should come to my classes. I can assure you. there is no shortage of engineers or engineers to be. :P
Anza Khan The world always needs more engineers.
Jack Morris Amen to that. brother. :P
***** Based solely on this video, if they taught science like this guy, there would be a lot more deaths. Here's what he actually said, in a nutshell: there is no explanation for Iron Man's nonsensical movement in the movies except a made-up concept borrowed from an equally nonsensical sci-fi franchise. BECAUSE SCIENCE!
Don't get me wrong; I love sci-fi. But let's not confuse concepts made up by writers to do whatever they want without any actual science behind them with actual science. Inertial dampers, subspace, alternate realities, time travel, hyperspeed, and all the others are just there for the sake of story. They don't actually exist, and they often don't make sense because not all writers are smart.
Let's take a look at a recent sci-fi movie that seems to have been very popular: Big Hero Five. At the end, [SPOILER ALERT], the robot fires his rocket punch to propel his friend and the girl they came to save back through the stargate while he is sent hurling backwards through space. The writers here wanted a noble sacrifice because tear-jerking makes people think stories are good. If the robot had put his (its?) back against the pod and fired the rocket punch into space, he would have gone back with the two humans and not died like a dumbass. They would have only needed to replace his hand. But Hollywood writers go for emotional moments and what "looks cool" without any pragmatic thinking. And THAT is the real reason Iron Man can do the impossible things he does in the movies.
Man, that was long. I guess I had to get it off my chest. ^^
tl;dr: Hollywood writers go for emotional moments and what "looks cool" without any pragmatic thinking.
Maybe Tony installed some Inertial force stabilizer. Something that allows Tony's body to move along with the suit.
I have a theory that his suit actually keeps him at a point where is whole body can create lift. So he's technically in free-fall but can change direction thanks to his hand thrusters and air brakes. this would negate serious G-forces from mincing him but it still wouldn't be fun pulling a hard nose up, or flaring (slowing down by use of the flying body) hard like he does in the movie.
No
Why is Thor explaining this again?
hahahahaha
Meow Meow lol
I think before considering G force effects on Stark's body, we should talk about how can he be a billionaire, playboy, philanthropist, expert in avionics, rockets, explosives, metallurgy, optics (lasers), energy reactors, nuclear physics, thermodynamics, quantum physics, magnetism, electronics, software optimization, cyber warfare, system engineering, AI programming, molecular science, genetic engineering.. (list goes on) at the same time while fighting against alcoholism. How he did not get a concussion when Thor punched him and he got knocked 20 meters back? How could his arm endure under the tensile stress when his suit arm pulled him under wreckage when Jarvis couldn't get him out with a full body armor thrust (or pretty much everything in Ironman 3 movie). The subject which you are nerding about is a middle school physics teacher level drop in a sea.
I dont know if they talk about it in the movie but hes almost supernaturally smart. He can read entire books by skimming.
The plot needed him to be smart. He wouldn't have been cool if he had to consult experts in different fields when making stuff.
He uses cushy foam padding, that's how. shut up, I'm right. Lalalalalalala I can't hear you.
You offer a compelling arguement...
***** Close, more like a gel layer similar to what the MJOLNIR armor has from Halo. Except you still need unbreakable bones to pilot MJOLNIR, so there's that.
He uses all his cash
+Jaune now thats something solid..
+Jaune now thats something solid..
Forget flying, what about getting hit with a tank shell.
Some specs on tank shell:
- Shell muzzle velocity - 1750 m/s
- Shell caliber - 120 mm
- Shell weight 18.6 kg
Lets say the shell velocity slows to 1500 m/s when it hits its target, then it is imparting 27,900 kgm/s (1500 m/s X 18.6 Kg) worth of energy and its being concentrated to an area of 120 mm, maybe 150 mm after distortion of shell.
Now here is the mind blowing stuff, tank shells don't deform easily, they will maintain its shape even after penetrating 30 cm worth of plate armor (so that means Iron man got hit with such force on an effective area of a few mm); the iron man suit isn't even remotely close to that thickness.
Oh yeah and he just took such a blast and stood up like nothing happened.
Some noteworthy shell penetration pics:
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Nomenclature:
mm - millimeter
cm - centimeter
kg - kilograms
m/s - meters per second
kgm/s - kilogram meter per second (units for momentum)
and then manages to get beat up by Captain America and Winter Soldier...
LoL, having recently watch the winter soldier, can you explain some logic to me. Tony survives great falls (Iron man 3 when the suit lost power) and survive with little scratches, Rody falls about the same height (if not less) in winter soldier and nearly died. What kind of logic is that?
If we take the repulsion/magnetic field theory that prevent him from .... well die, even if the energy of the suit is low like 1 percent, we are talking about 1 percent of the energy needed to feed a city for a week, when warmachine was shoot down he took a direct hit to the ark reactor witch mean no power at all.
when the ark reactor in warmachine was hit Rody was fine, after the crash he nearly dies, so basically no power, no field = you are dead.
Something similar happened to tony after deal with the nuke in avengers, he was falling and his suit was rebooting, hulk catch him and he end unconscious, but he was fine before that, just with out power.
Contrary to being hit by a tank or being blend in the helicarrier turbines, the suit took damage but he doesn't and in both cases the suit had energy.
+Adam Hosein well to be fair even in the comics tony always talks about how much better his suit is made.
Force Field
Tony can probably convert mass into Ego and vice versa without losing an erg of potential energy. If inertia works only on mass, the EGO will stay un-inerted ;)
+Urs F (Feno3000) well that explains alot. His superpower (that nobody realizes he has) is to convert Mass into his Ego and vice-versa.
the world's best backward writing guy
+sammeo or just a mirror effect in a video editor
+Crave Dammit you just ruined it for me. I was over here all impressed but that makes a lot of sense.
Sorry man ahaha
It's why he always wears blank shirts mate.
All the discussion in here is amazing! And thanks for all your suggestions for future episodes. Trust me, I'm listening!
How didn't anyone comment
@@TylerTMGikr
@awesomedavid2012 *hug* you get a hug even if you didn't want one you got one
I am also intrested in science.
tony stark is iron man!? wtf. thanks for the spoiler. god dammit.
+Jozef Leonor ikr
spoiler alert batman is bruce banner
Clark kent is superman and kenny is mysterion...
+sjipsdew Darth Vader is Luke Starkiller
saying "gods name in vain" isn't very nice!
I imagine Stan Lee slept thru Physics class when he was in school (assuming they HAD such a class in the Stone Age)
Shots Fired!!
+Phil Adams Goddammn stan lee is a living legend not a fossil
Savage
yeah he took financial gains 101 enjoy poverty hating bitch😘😂😝
+Love Rule lmao wut
1:25 Secret hidden Tattoo!! for only one scene. Why?
+Trevor Jones Hahah damn good eye
thanks. :)
pen written...its blue...and doesnt show up any where else,so...blue and no more... pen written tatoo
Doodling between setups.
You open by calling someone an idiot and close by saying tattoos are too risqué for "because science".
Hmmm... 13 years old?
Pretty sure it's because it's in the Marvel Universe where absolutely nothing makes sense.
+Naruto1234119 That's why it's called fiction ¬¬
+Naruto1234119 Word...the marvel universe is in shambles because too many people contributed and none of their ideas make coherent sense or were meant to.
+Arman Agahbanaei its not as consistent as I want it to be.
Arman Agahbanaei do you think any of DCs characters make sense?
+Oskari Eronen No
Even if there's some dampening fluid between his body and the suit, there's no dampening fluid inside Tony's body.
When I was in college, I saw a talk by an aeronautical engineer where he suggested filling your lungs with an incompressible oxygen-solvating fluid, such as a chlorofluorocarbon. That way, with nothing sloshing around in the body, your innards could survive high-g accelerations.
the real magic is that his suit only weighs like 240 pounds
Iron Mam (film version) has 42 suits, the lightest could be Bone and the heaviest could be Igor.
Ken Allen im kinda wondering how that is relevant lol
Ken Allen mk 25 would be quite heavy as well
shygirl101020 Because it is super hard alloy that is chemically recompiled by a special kind of bacteria. Similar to how Cap's shield was created, the armor is designed on the molecular level, making it have high resistance with very little weight for such a large suit of armor.
Luke Roughan maybe the jackhammer, but not the armour. The armour isn't too big at all.
Y does nerdiest sound like Jake roper from v sauce 3
hey vsause
why does nerdist look like thor?
He looks more like sam winchester
More like a nerdy Thor
This is great! My kids and I love watching these videos together. They are clean, very well made, and my kids are learning a lot. Thanks and keep it up!
Well (in the comics) Stark has armor called "bleeding edge armor", which is basically stored in his bones and controlled with his mind. So, with this certain armor, technically it is a part of him, hence he IS the armor.
Actually, water is not compressible. The ironman suit does have a water filtration feature, but that's not what keeps Tony safe. There's a spongy micro metamaterial that his undergarments are made of, and the inner lining of each of the pieces of the ironman suit is made from. Otherwise, the rockets in his boots would instantly rip his legs clean off, and his flight stabilizers would snap his hands off at the wrists.
frosted1030 I don't think those spongy micro metamaterials would work theoretically, let alone realistically.
And let's say those materials do work on the outside of Stark's body, his internal organs would all still be squished from those g forces.
GuyWithAnAmazingHat The metamaterials absorb the energy and recycle it into the suit's power systems. In real life, graphene can do this. A combination of graphene and aerogel could be used for these purposes, of course, in real life, no one would try it out on themselves first.
frosted1030
That still doesn't address g forces on his internal organs.
frosted1030 metamaterials like graphene can indeed do this but the only way this would work for Iron Man is if Tony's body is infused with the stuff completely so that the energy absorption happens everywhere (including the brain fluid and everything holding your internal organs together). It's conceivable that the Extremis serum he took in the comics has this component.
***** in the ultimate comics, at least at first there was a gell that filled the suit this blue goo that would stick to him when he got out. For 616 and the Cinimatic Universe probably inirtal dampers i mean the Repulsors are a heatleass, frictionless concussive wave form that provises thrust and impact that could easily be allpied to a inertial damper and hell he's had stright up forcefields on more then one suit
In one of the comics I remember Tony emerging from his suit covered in a green gel/liquid substance to control this exact effect.
I feel like a lot of your vids could also end with "....or it could just be made up bullshit,... why? because science!"
***** I have a feeling most of that is a lie.
***** Firstly, a way to manipulate machines with your brain has not been discovered. A computer that allows the user to send signals has been invented....totally different. Microscopic life on mars has not been discovered, only hypothesized de to findings, and the light barrier has not been broken, it is only under speculation that It CAN be done. Also, I don't have to prove you wrong. Since none of these things have happened, you have the burden of proof. Its like telling me to prove Bigfoot doesn't exist.
tom riddle Best name Ever!
tom riddle It's not even breaking the light barrier, it's merely moving space around.
GenericNerd yes, but like I said, its only a theory. NOTHING that advanced has been invented, that we know of. I mean come on, we can't even get enough people interested to go to the moon again.
Why doesn't it kill him when he makes a 90 degree turn? Well mostly because hes not making a 90% turn for starters. You can even see in the movies the contrail hes leaving behind (a contrail is a trail of ice crystals btw) has a very gradual slope to it. Hes not exactly turning in just a few feet, that suit is flying at a few hundred miles an hour just to stair airborne, hes traveled several yards in the time it takes him to go up a few feet.
I see what you mean
same thing I was thinking about the ending of the video... how can you compare a car crash to an iron man turn... I always thought he just moves his momentum with him like an invisible roller coaster ride.
+SS2LP Technically it's still a 90 degree turn, be it sharp or not.
Still, turning as fast as he is with the velocities we see in the movies he'd kill himself.
Also when he lands on the ground etc.
If you've played a flying sim or Warthunder you get a glimpse of how it works. It's not about how many yards he's travelled, it's about how many seconds he uses to change direction, or increase/decrease velocity. (Changing the direction of your velocity is also a form of accelleration, in physics)
LoserEater303
How about flying a real airplane and doing that same kind of thing. For the matter I wouldn't be around if making a 90 degree turn at mach 1 killed you since my father got a ride in a t-38 before he was discharged from the air force and did a 90 at near mach 1. So please know what you're talking about before you correct somebody.
***** Okey, I'm sorry. I really don't know the limit to which humans die from "G-forces", but I know there is one. I also know that you'll experience some rather uncomfortable effects as blood drains from or gets pushed up to your head, depending on the turn.
As I already touched on, a turn can technically be 90 degrees even if you spend 3 hours taking the turn. The degree is not what's important. What's important is how fast you turn, and your speed.
One thing you forget is that currently as we debate this, the military has developed gel-lined Kevlar suits that will stop/re-direct the inertia of a bullet. I guess the same could be said the Tony's IM armor. Also, there is currently in development for lack of a better term "force-fields" being experimented with that use electromagnets to "dampen" inertia. These of course are still in their infancy, but remember Tony Stark is supposed to be a genius, so I guess he would have perfected this in the MCU. That being said, I don't think he actually made a "90 degree" turn it looked more like a curve witch still would be hard to do.
That prevents outside forces from acting on the body. It has absolutely zero to do with your body being that force.
james pogrebetsky You apparently don't know what "inertia" is.
I know exactly what inertia is. And a bullet hitting a vest, and being absorbed by the vest has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with what happens in the human body when it is slowed down. In this comparison, the human body is the bullet, and the human bodies inertia would be stopped by a suit lined with that material. Just as the bullet would be utterly destroyed, which is part of what stops/redirects it's inertia, the body would be utterly destroyed as well.
Why? Because science.
It doesn't matter. Stark's body will still experience the force. And even if let's assume he doesn't. He's internal organs will cause you may stop the rigid parts of his body but you can't the liquid and non attached ones.
and your bones can still be broken even when wearing those vests, and anything bigger than a handgun will easily penetrate it
science friction (pun intended)duh...
You look a little like Chris Hemsworth.
+baileyboy125 Wow! You're right. Its not like ive seen this comment many times before on his videos! Thanks!!!
+baileyboy125 i think he kinda looks like Tom Cruise
+LucasRoL14 I'm watching mission impossible right now
+HalfbreedTrini I was watching too, on Telecine
no he doesnt he looks like sam rockwell with long hair
when I look at the movies, it dosen't look like stark is making a full ninety degree turn, but (as you said) a more gradual turn, whereby he also shifts slightly in the other direction before making that turn. Now, the sudden stop is not as sudden as it looks. Stark slows himself to a speed that wouldn't hurt very much if at all before he impacts the ground.
Is it wrong that I liked this video straight after the marker hit Kyle on the head? That's dedication to the job, but I hope you remembered to enter it in the accident book :o)
Because you're a punk
Glad I'm not the only one who questioned the lack of Inertia in the movie. Despite how awesome it was.
Really, if you think about it, the inertia problems sort of aren't, simply because of the way the suit moves. It's impossible for Tony to take that perfect 90 degree turn, because he doesn't have retro-rockets on his front to instantly cancel his velocity and counter his inertia. Instead, when he's turning, there's that period of time where he's stopped firing his thrusters full-bore to move his arms and legs (and whole body, really) into the new position to launch himself in a different direction- a repositioning which is aided by air brakes in different parts of the suit. And when he's not doing one of those mid-air flip style turns, he's not actively cancelling his forward inertia at all, but rather removing his forward thrust, replacing it with downwards or upwards thrust and letting air-resistance slow his horizontal movement. We don't see this, because the camera is following him, but seeing the example turn from the side at a distance would probably look a lot like the curve Kyle drew, rather than an angle.
Really, it's not the repulsors that're what make's the Iron Man suit fly so well- any bald-headed fool can make rocket boots (lookin' at you, Obidiah)- it's the computer systems in conjunction with the myriad air-brakes and organization of flaps arrayed around the suit that allow for that incredible mid-air maneuverability- acting as the individual feathers of a bird in flight to subtly adjust and shape the drag and airflow around him in response to his body and the data Jarvis collects about atmospheric conditions. This is why the icing was such a major issue- it didn't just make him heavier or make him cold, it froze up his control surfaces taking away his ability to turn in midair and causing feedback to the computer systems.
So glad you extended the format, I could’ve used another ten minutes on this subject
Because science? Uhm, no. Because fantasy.
+DumbDuck44 Science fantasy.
SCIENCE FICTION!!! :D
+ImANormalGuyThatHasALongNameAndDontRealyCareForItLOL omg
Ok you can question how does he survive the g force, but I'm much more impressed with how is he able to construct rockets and thrusters that have basically zero size. And basically invincible armor that is the thickness of tin foil (almost). And weapons and rockets and all those components that fold into themselves until there is very little left. I feel the g forces would be no more than an afterthought at this point.
+morbik Unless you have Time Lord Tech, allowing you to make things bigger on the inside... In which case, he can easily deal with the G-forces, since he has plenty of room to work with.
Morbik in marvel universe there's a special type of metal called vibranium (it is included in some of the movies) and it is really, teally, really strong and light, something like graphene in our world
the armour looks like it's more than a centimetre thick tho
@@alekvassinskiy1286 his suit is usually a gold titanium alloy, for density and strength.
@@FluorescentGreen5 theres a is a metal that can take a 7.62 round at 1mm thick
Kyle hill I have a question how does shinji ikari from Evangelion pilot Eva unit 1 if it's a living organism?
***** There is no reason for that to be impossible. In fact, I believe you can actually already buy a remote controlled cockroach. Just a cockroach with some device stuck in its brain and you can control it from your phone.
***** basically, the Eva pilot interfaces with the biomechanical unit's own brain directly (similar to what they show in Pacific Rim with the two pilots). Essentially if you can tune the brain waves to synchronize you can create a telepathic link between them. This is why it is also possible for the Eva brain to encroach into its pilot's brain when the failsafes that prevent it malfunction, making the Eva go berserk and leaving the pilot in a fugue state.
if you notice in the movies he is doing a curved 90 degree turn. he is also when he lands coming in at an angle with the bottom half of his body moving from horizontal to verticle and his head staying still as a pivot point. this gives him the ability to control his brain from having energy exerted on it by keeping it stationary. he gives his own head its own seatbelt by keeping it as a pivot point
please do the science behind his actual flight.
With enough thrust, anything can fly
Magmafrost13 What about the Physics behind it? what gives him lift when he's flying straight forward? How is he able to manipulate his flight path?
John Lumapas he can manipulate his flight path because he can manipulate his arms and legs. The lift thing is a definite problem though.
he has flaps and extra wing panels on his shoulders and calves to give him lift and change his directions like jet planes. he has multiple ones as well as thrusters on his sides to give him a sharper turn
Ja d he definitely doesnt turn by the same means a plane does. That wouldnt work for a humanoid shape. He turns simply by pointing different thrusters in the appropriate directions.
None of these proposed technologies would work properly in the space of Tony's suit though. The distance and speed with which these "dampeners" have to work is respectively way too small and high. Similarly, it makes nearly zero sense how, just because his suit is strong and durable, he gets no concussive injury when punched by Hulk or smashed by a huge rock.
Pen: BOOM HEADSHOT!!!!!
The internal layer of the suit could be lined with hexagonal flat surfaced friction springs or pneumatic pistons at most 1cm across and 1 cm in depth each this would probably be a sufficient dampener for this theory.
i think
How about the brain? It may work with the body but it won't on the guts inside like the brain.
+Nooby Games Not even close.
Real life jet pilots can handle about 8g of acceleration max.
+The AnonymouZ it should provide a gradual enough deceleration for the whole body
Nooby Games That wouldnt have nearly enough of an effect to really help.
Ionic propulsion is supposed to be regulated by his internal programming "JARVIS"
which is now "Friday"
+Mia Ruvalcaba Vision, actually..
I’m more wondering how he can take a hit from Thor without dying. It’s armor so it blocks it without breaking... but the force would still transfer to his body no?
Iron man suit violates the 1st law of thermodynamics-"Energy can neither be created nor destroyed".
I know that the suit is a fiction but making such a suit will create a new revolution of destruction.
Wow I didn't think about that wow u are completely right
Tripleshotz __________________ Iron man's arc reactor is generating the energy but from where?? Energy can be only transformed from one form to another.
His arc reactor doesn't make any sense.
yeah because energy can not be created nor detroyed
It's a fusion reactor. Fusion can make as much power as the movies quote
Also how does he control his suit?how does he fly?he just makes a hand gesture and the blast shoots automaticlly?or is he pressing some kind of button?
well the suit is fitted to tony...there is no room in there for him to wiggle around..imagine your car tightly wrapped around you..when it stops you stop..the suit absorbs most if not all the shock to his external..doesnt explain his organs though..ever feel like your stomach is moving on a roller coaster?
Well, his organs would be pretty important. So that's a pretty big thing to explain.
+Actheman1978 agreed..maybe he has shock absorbant organs lmao
Yeah that would be like your stomach moving on a rollercoaster times like 4000
I had to sub this is the best video I have ever seen I will be here every Thursday!
+FUNKYBULL SHRIMP Just found out his channel a few days ago and hve now also subbed. This is AMAZING!
can somebody explain why in the vast majority of space shows, movies, books, etc. when a spaceship is moving why it doesn't keep on moving. there's nothing stopping it from going endlessly without the engines on so yeah...
your question is worded weird... the space ships have to stop themselves.....if they want to stop... with like front thrusters or some shit what the hell are you even talking about lol
when a spaceship is moving why it doesn't keep on moving? wtf?
+Giga Ware He means that they are always using thrusters. In a movie, ships always have their thrusters powering ahead, even after accelerating, yet miraculously stop when they're shut down, despite having no counter thrust.
In other words, he's asking why there is no inertia once the propulsion system stops pushing. Although most (relatively) realistic movies do depict this, and less (relatively) realistic movies only throw in inertia when their ship runs out of power or has damaged thrusters and may float forever, dooming the crew.
+Anaithnid001 in every si-fi movie I've ever seen there's only inertia once the ship (like you said) runs out of power or is damaged but it would be much more realistic and smarter to accelerate to the desired speed then shut off the engines cause with gravity there's nothing stopping the ship from going endlessly and there should also be thrusters on the front of the ship to stop but there's none
But no one wants realism, unfortunately.
the reactor generates electrons, the electrons go to the boots and gloves, the boots and gloves have capacitors that serve to control the demand for electrons, the electrons pass to the thrusters and stabilizers, where there are magnets that remove excess electrons by transforming them in muons that penetrate deep into atomic matter and pass through the glass without breaking it, creating an impulse force.
that lets him on fly.
It's because he's Bat... Oh, wait... Wrong universe :D
+TheDawidosDawson unless it is earth 962
+maxim parker amalgama?
I like the theory of a special gravitational field acting as an inertial dampener because if you look at the images of tony inside the suite, it looks as if he is floating inside the helmet and is not touching any of the edges.
At all those accelerations and moves...how does the crap stays in Tony ? ( you know ...crap has inertia too ) , and why doesn't it flys all over in the suit ?:)))
This is the first Science of Iron Man video I've seen that has touched on the subject of inertia. Good job.
Clicked on this because I reckon you look like the guys who plays Thor.
(I'd be surprised if I was the first to think so)
He could play Thot, Thor's younger promiscuous gay brother.
Isla Drummond Going as mini-Thor to Comic-Con
***** Don't sleep around, have to be worthy.
Whosoever sleeps around, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thot.
***** Jealous,what else?
It's a mix of both. Marvel actually mentions both inertial dampeners and non compressible fluids as part of the suits design.
The answer to your question is that because it is just a movie.
The law of Inertia was first stated by Galileo, not newton.
Just saying it's science doesn't make it science
SILENCE HIM! He's slowing the dumbing down of the humans!!
+Justin Adkins reported
0:24 It's because when making that turn he is "lying down" in a prone position, fighter pilots sit upright so when they pull G's it's exerted through their spine, when pulling G's in a prone position (actually been tested before but never implemented due to practicality issues) the G forces acting on your body are spread out over a larger area and therefore have less effect. Other than that there's probably as you said some SciFi technology.
Sigh... a number of scientific inaccuracies yet again. I applaud the effort to educate about science of films, etc... but come on. Air resistance doesn't bring the marker down -- once it starts falling (due to gravity), air resistance actually (tries to) keeps the marker in the air. Air resistance (aka friction) always acts against motion, not in a "fixed" direction like gravity.
Randy Sinnott The air resistance works against the upward motion of the marker (along with gravity). In a vacuum with only gravity working against this upward motion, the marker would take longer to lose this motion and thus would travel further up. So the air resistance does work to stop the upward motion, the first step in the marker coming back down, and thus helps in bringing it down.
Philip Hall You're correct Philip Hall. Without gravity though, the marker would stop and hang in mid-air, so it's a bit specious IMO to say "air resistance beings the marker down". While it does inhibit its upward motion, but it equally inhibits the downward motion.
What brings the marker to the floor is gravity, plain and simple. Air resistance both brings it to the floor and keeps it from going to the floor (at different times).
Consider these cases:
Gravity, atmosphere: Falls to floor (this is the demonstrated case)
Gravity, vacuum: Falls to floor (slightly slower than first case)
No gravity, atmosphere: Pen slows and eventually floats motionless in mid-air when kinetic energy is completely dissipated by friction
No gravity, vacuum: Pen just keeps going full speed in whatever direction it was projected.
As you can see gravity is the causal factor, as the pen goes the the floor in all cases where it is present. The presence or absence of air (atmosphere) does not impact the pen falling to the floor.
So while air resistance is present in the system Kyle demonstrated (and does admittedly impact the time spectrum we're concerned with), it is in no way the *cause* of the demonstrated effect.
Randy Sinnott But what he said was that it was both gravity and air resistance working to bring it back to the ground ... Which is true ... So while gravity is the bigger factor in bringing the marker down, it's not wrong to state that air resistance works to bring it back down. So it's not a scientific inaccuracy to state so.
Philip Hall It's also scientifically accurate to say that air resistance is working to keep the marker from hitting the ground (during the downward part of its flight). The complete and accurate statement is "Air resistance is working to bring the pen to the ground while it is travelling away from the ground. When the pen is travelling towards the ground, air resistance is working to keep the pen from hitting the ground."
Gravity is the only factor in bringing it towards the ground. Air resistance inhibits motion, in this case motion away from the ground which is different than causing downward movement.
So yes, the statement re:air resistance is accurate while the pen travels upwards -- but that's only half the story :)
Randy Sinnott This is more of a trivial argument. We all understood what he meant, (forces acting upon the marker to prevent it from continuing), and he is not wrong.
But tony said it in a movie. He said that there are these things that basically make him float in his suit so he doesn't die. That's why Rodey got hurt in civil war.
it never answered the question. there are so many questionable things about the ironman suit. how he could manouver at mac speed without wings? how he protect his body when somebody throw him like a tennis ball? how he move like a normal human being when his wearing a half tone suit? how can he talk when he just want to talk jarvis and not to the opponent? how can he have so much strength when you dont have hydraulics system? there are so much tech goin on to that suit that in reality does not make sense until explained.
At times like when there are too many flaws in physics regarding Tony's suit, I just like to think that Tony has developed futuristic tech himself that is not open to the public, and it would make sense that we can't explain how he did it.
Inertial damping can be achieved using the paramagnetic effect, basically inside the suit would be a very strong electromagnet which activates and can prevent water molecules (which make up the majority of the weight of the human body) from moving within a body, protecting it from G-forces.
I know I'm being a grammar nazi, but it's an inertial dampener. Damper is an adjective. damp, damper, dampest
glad someone noticed it.
Incorrect. Pick up a decent dictionary, and damper can be a noun with several meanings, one of which is a device which deadens or restrains movements.
I only realized something was up when Tony Stark's brain not turn into porridge when Thor headbutted him in Avengers..
This video explained exactly nothing. Awesome. Back to VSauce.
did they really just add a pretty boy to the vsauce formula, like, and talk in circles? and this is a thing? lmao lmao lmao
Stephen Rios How did this not explain anything ?
vsauce is so like 5 years ago 😂😂😂
Inertial dampers or repulsor lining inside his suit
Everyday, I look at the time. It usually says 4:20. Am I too mlg for life?
and you didn't explain anything ._.
+TaRee kylefraser He said its because of magic "inertial dampers"
Eric B you wouldn't be a good iron man since things would probably keep flying over your head
james Corduroy what if his reflexes are too fast and he'd just catch it?
At no point during these maneuvers is he going near the speed of even high end prop fighters. He looks to be going that quickly due to his small size compared to an actual fighter, and his suit can travel at extreme speeds, but in every shot where he's maneuvering, he's traveling at reasonable speeds to do so
Uncompressable fluid? You mean like water?
Correct, also it's incompressible*
Makes more sense when in Iron Man 2 where Tony says that his suit was 20 years ahead of time because he has tech that is hella non-existent
Here is a question, "why doesn't iron man's suit melt him"?
cause the reactor he made revolutionary
I was just doing my daily kyle hill/because science binge and Looking back at you from.6 years ago compaired to today... YOU HAVE COME SO FAR..
Actually air resistance doesn't bring the pen back down to earth, it's just gravity.
+Asy B it still helps though, because both air resistance and gravity are forces acting upon the pen.
+Asy B yes it slows the pen down
+ChromeFilms77 It doesn't help since when a pen falls, air resistance acts in the opposite direction to gravity. Air resistance doesn't bring a pen down, it just slows it down when it falls.
+Robert Jonsson But air resistance doesn't itself bring the pen down. It just affects the rate at which the pen falls down.
Asy B yes, but it slows the pen down when it is going upwards, allowing gravity to take affect sooner. I never said it brings the pen down.
dude that was awesome
btw it was great meeting and chatting with you at comic con you are awesome
I hate imperial units
How have i never seen this channel before !?! instantly subscribed, great vid
YESSSSSS!!!! BECAUSE SCIENCE BITCH!!!!! xD
Your idea of fluid cushioning Tony inside the suit was used in Marvel's The Ultimates - an alternate form of the Avengers that takes place within Marvel's Ultimate Universe. However, when Black Widow asked Tony whether or not it was a good idea to throw back so many vodkas before putting his suit on, Tony replied with "Who'd get into it sober?" Pretty much indicating that such an experience would be quite uncomfortable
Ima gonna get addicted to this channel. learning in a fun way with the use of superheroes!! I think my younger brother would also like it.
tony never makes 90 degree turns. if you watch closely every single turn he makes is sloped. even when he puts his thrusters directly in front of himself he"ll slow down before stopping.
Actually its a lot simpler than something like Inertial Dampers or anything like that. He just has padding on the inside of the suit that protects him from the inertia he would experience from doing those sorts of things. Its not shown in the movies, but in the comics, the suit has padding on the inside of it.
between the suit and his body Tony has a thin exoskeleton, kinda does something like the fluid you mentioned, but it's metal. and a thinner suit.
He was so serious and then BAM! 0:53
Back from the first Ironman movie, he calls Rhodie in the suit and he asks 'Why are you out of breathe?' Means he's dealing the all the G Force. As Astronauts do, Tony eventually gets use to the G Force of the acceleration. And the suit would calculate and use the dampers to slow down at a safe enough speed where he could land without injury. and cuz he is Ironman
If anyone here has ever read Marvel's "The Ultimates" series, the explanation from this video (cerebral spinal fluid inside the suit) is actually used in this series, as every time Tony pops out of it, he's covered in a green gel that does indeed serve this purpose.
I've learnt more about physics in the last couple of days watching your videos than in a year at school
Maybe the inside of his body is also supported by the suit. As weird as it may seem, he already did do one surgery involving electronic implants. He could have some sort of metal second skeleton, and interior cushions for squishy things like brains, which connect to the suit when he puts it on.
Someone a few decades ago was doing experiments into the effectiveness of 4 harness seatbelts. He was on a seat on a track, basically propelled by rockets, with a buffer like a train buffer at the end, which he slammed into at high speed. The footage I saw on the documentary was in black and white, so when they filmed his face his eyes just looked black, due to the blood vessels bursting.
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+pineapplepenumbra Yeah man I saw that a little while ago too. He said that he had to hold his eyes shut so that they didn't explode out of his head.
+Julius Tapert Yep, it looked weird, right?
Link?
Ahh such a quieter Kyle... Good times...
Now the worlds on fire
Thank you for doing those videos. I really like them:)
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2016 Kyle Hill:
Positively love the show, Kyle + crew, keep up the fantastic work, please, for my sake.
The answer is the Good animations can abide (phy,che,math) laws... Any laws!!
They (animation) just need to be very GOOD ✨
tony made his suit to fit him perfectly and plus if he would fly like that he wouldnt get a concussion because you can only get a concussion when you hit your head to a certain object
thanks. never thought of this stuff.
When he said "inertial dampers" I immediately thought of all the times in Star Trek you hear "inertial dampers have failed along with life support systems.....[tech]"
when he said "but first we must go back to the birth of physics"
I thought he was gonna say "first let's ask our self's, what is physics?" if you watch big bang theory you'll understand the reference 😂
concussions and internal decapitation should have ended the plot for this character in 2008
How ?? Decapitation how ?
Decapitation how ??
"axial" shear
@@ydid687 Dont get ??
@@techphile3262 abrupt impact "slashes" bone thereby decapitating