knifing works ! I just impressioned a ignition switch to a 1953 dodge diplomat using this very technic. after I had a working key, I put a blank in the 1200, cut then duplicated a more professional looking key presentable to the client.
Like a couple of earlier replies mentioned, I like to use a Sharpie. I'll file the top of the key to get a smooth surface, then just add a bit of color with a Sharpie. Helps make the marks show up. Advantage to the Sharpie is that you can apply it again after filing down a mark. And, in my opinion, the Sharpie helps reveal marks better than knifing on pin tumbler locks. #lockboss
I like both knifing then sharpie. If you don't have a sharpie you can also use a lighter to blacken it just let it cool a bit first so you don't warp it when you turn.
Tanner, aka KidLock, did a real "cut up" job while "knifing" as a #lockboss#. {Knifing for wafer locks makes it fast & easy as only a quick key prep is needed}. For "difficult" pin tumbler I might code cut starting spacing cuts.
Try a blue sharpie, if you haven't yet. I think it shows up better than black, but that's a very opinionated statement.. Red also works alright on some brass keys..
I cut the top cut with the correct spacing on y-11 blanks for impressioning with my code machine. This gives me a clear starting place. I also carry a set of depth keys so I have an idea of how much to file per cut. These steps and a really good magnifying glass (old eyes) help me to be successful. #LockBoss
If you know the spaces and depths of the lock you're impressioning it really helps speed the process. When you see a mark you can immediately file down to the next known depth, which removes a lot of the guesswork. And if you happen to have a code cutter handy that you can use instead of a file, talk about a time saver! Of course, having the correct space and depth information on hand isn't always possible so it's good to learn how to do it the "hard way". Once again, excellent video! Thanks for putting this out there! #lockboss
Thank you for this video. It gave great explanations on impressioning. Now I need to go see what I can do. I usually read the wafers and cut keys on the ITL. I honestly haven’t impressioned a key yet. #lockboss
Thanks PJ and Tanner for sharing your wisdom and the excellent video showing the whole impressioning process, probably the best I've seen. For people just starting out, you might find out that a magnifying light might help you see the marks when you can't otherwise see them. Also, I will usually need to duplicate my final product onto a nice clean blank, or even code cut a key to the now known cuts because the key i was working with is looking pretty shabby after all that vise gripping. #LockBoss
In top of all the other info I am trying to cram in my brain I have been dabbling in a master lock key trying to impression it. Damn it’s hard #lockboss. Thxs PJ and Tanner
You are absolutely correct. But he is an ok impressioner. Not being critical. But he is a beginner himself. My normal time to impression that same lock at our shop Is less than a minute. Not bragging is a reality. I’ve impressioned 130k locks in 30 years. I’ve impressioned everything well almost. No multi T Lock.
DId this for the first time the on Monday!! Had the key done in 5 minutes (pretty sure it was more luck then anything lol!) AWESOME VIDEO PJ!! thanks (kid 🔐) for the rad tips brother!! You guys rock 🤘😁#LockBoss
I have been practicing impressioning over the last few years. Started with two different locks and a pile of blanks. The correct lighting definitely helps me see the marks. When you get started it definitely helps if you mark the spacing with depth keys or some other way in order to know where you should be looking. #lockboss
thank you pj & tanner! awesome video. that is the technique they taught us at lsi. knifing the blade is the way i usually do. again, thanks for showing whole process. #lockboss :)
Nice video, I impression the same way and have for years. Sometimes on a lock I’m familiar with, I’ll use a felt tip pin on the blade to set up the spacing. Let the ink dry throughly and put key in slowly, do the 1,2,3 up down as in video and look for marks for spacing
This is a weak area of mine. I am going to try this technique and see how it works for me. Got to get a lot of 🔑 s for this. Thanks much guys. #LockBoss
Great video PJ, I was wondering about the knifing aspect from the previous one and appreciate the follow up - definitely helps learn how to impression like a #lockboss 😊
Great video. I have tried a few without success, but have never tried knifing before, and I have only tried pin tumbler and not wafer, so gotta find me some wafers to build up my skill before going after pin tumblers again. 🇨🇦#LockBoss🇨🇦
We learned from that company back in the 60's and 70's, can't remember their name, but they were out of little falls New Jersey, and the way they taught you was to blacken the key with a match, remember those, book matches? Then as you filed just blacken it more after the dark wore off, no cell phones, no internet, How ever did we survive? lol
in the close to 20 years I have been in the business (will be 20 next year) most of the time when I break out the pippin file I lightly file along the sides and top and get real shiny or I will knife it like he is showing . #LockBoss Great video keep up the good work !!
Nice impressioning, first, second, third, etc....... open!!! great #LockBoss work!!! I'll be trying this out later, i have many padlocks, no keys, and don't like doing it the hard way, damages the patina....
Great tutorial!Personally, I like a flat edge(As I can see the marks easier)and I use sandpaper to prep the blank(Which leaves a much finer finish than a file)P.S. I have to admit, while impressioning is super cool and satisfying, given that it can be difficult and/or risk bending wafers, when originating a key for a lock, I prefer to disassemble it(When possible)and either decode the tumblers with a caliper or space and depth keys, or place the blank in, lightly whack the pins or wafers with the handle of a hammer or screwdriver to mark the spaces, and file them until the they are flush.
Great #Lockboss video! Tanner makes it look easy by emphasizing the most important point to take your time. Don’t try to bully force the process just to end up breaking your blank and make problems worse.
Another Awesome #LockBoss video. It's nice to see when someone is willing to take the time and really explain what is happening and why a technique works. Thanks 🔑
I can't find a locksmith in my area who can perform the ancient skill of impressioning. Wish you guys were here, but I guess I'm going to be forced to attempt this myself.
Interesting video. IMO- it seems that this only works on your more basic locks- stuff that would be just as easy to pick/ and replace with a new one if not decodable?! I tried this for a long time on SFIC before I found out that it's virtually impossible to do given the 2 shear lines.
Hey Mark, glad you liked it. Typically not just because you never know what key you will need. BUT if you are going out to a job and you know the key then yes! -PJ
Another great video, great tip, rock up a couple times then rock down, seems like it works a bit better. I was taught knifing from the start but doing the rock up and down though I never really was taught a good way to impression pin locks. Way to be a #Lockboss yourself 👍
I tried it do a Subaru and was talking to long, my BOSS had to come over and do it for me. He sends me to another call. And it's started raining on him.
Excellant!!! Once you make the key and it is working, what is the next step? I don't think you would give the impressioned key to the customer. Do you just duplicate it or would you measure the depths and cut it on a code machine? Tom #Lockboss JMJ Locksmith
100% correct, you never want to give the customer the impressioned key, either duplicate or code cut depending on a variety of circumstances. Thanks Tom -PJ
Ronald, you are filing the marks away very slowly until there aren't any more marks, at the end the key cuts looks like a regular key because the dents caused by the pins or wafers have been removed, they are no longer being marked into the blank by the pins binding as you try to turn the key.
knifing works ! I just impressioned a ignition switch to a 1953 dodge diplomat using this very technic. after I had a working key, I put a blank in the 1200, cut then duplicated a more professional looking key presentable to the client.
Like a couple of earlier replies mentioned, I like to use a Sharpie. I'll file the top of the key to get a smooth surface, then just add a bit of color with a Sharpie. Helps make the marks show up. Advantage to the Sharpie is that you can apply it again after filing down a mark. And, in my opinion, the Sharpie helps reveal marks better than knifing on pin tumbler locks. #lockboss
Hey Barry, thanks for adding this a Sharpie is a great tool for impressioning! -PJ
I like both knifing then sharpie. If you don't have a sharpie you can also use a lighter to blacken it just let it cool a bit first so you don't warp it when you turn.
yes, love the sharpie idea. I tried candle soot but it seems to rub off too easily. The sharpie stays put until contacted by the pin(s)
Tanner, aka KidLock, did a real "cut up" job while "knifing" as a #lockboss#. {Knifing for wafer locks makes it fast & easy as only a quick key prep is needed}. For "difficult" pin tumbler I might code cut starting spacing cuts.
Good one! 😂 thanks for the tip -PJ
When I learned a long time ago I was taught to smoke the blank, now we have sharpies. #lockboss
Try a blue sharpie, if you haven't yet. I think it shows up better than black, but that's a very opinionated statement.. Red also works alright on some brass keys..
Very good adds here! Thank you! -PJ
@@steamgadget blue sharpie mathed please any vedeo link
smoking, or sharpies has never worked out for me.
I was thinking using Prussian blue. Nice contrast for those of us with not the best eyesite.
I cut the top cut with the correct spacing on y-11 blanks for impressioning with my code machine. This gives me a clear starting place. I also carry a set of depth keys so I have an idea of how much to file per cut. These steps and a really good magnifying glass (old eyes) help me to be successful. #LockBoss
Good tips, thanks Paul! -PJ
Excellent approach!
Great job, Tanner! The biggest thing about impressioning keys is practice, practice, practice! #AccessLock&KeyLLC #LockBoss
💯 so true! -PJ
If you know the spaces and depths of the lock you're impressioning it really helps speed the process. When you see a mark you can immediately file down to the next known depth, which removes a lot of the guesswork. And if you happen to have a code cutter handy that you can use instead of a file, talk about a time saver! Of course, having the correct space and depth information on hand isn't always possible so it's good to learn how to do it the "hard way". Once again, excellent video! Thanks for putting this out there! #lockboss
Good info Doug, thanks for adding! -PJ
God bless you, PJ, for your guest!
Thank you for this video. It gave great explanations on impressioning. Now I need to go see what I can do. I usually read the wafers and cut keys on the ITL. I honestly haven’t impressioned a key yet. #lockboss
Thanks PJ and Tanner for sharing your wisdom and the excellent video showing the whole impressioning process, probably the best I've seen. For people just starting out, you might find out that a magnifying light might help you see the marks when you can't otherwise see them. Also, I will usually need to duplicate my final product onto a nice clean blank, or even code cut a key to the now known cuts because the key i was working with is looking pretty shabby after all that vise gripping. #LockBoss
Great info thank you!
Thanks Dave, the video was so long we cut that part out so thanks for adding it! -PJ
Nothing beats that feeling when you impression a lock #lockboss
Right! -PJ
In top of all the other info I am trying to cram in my brain I have been dabbling in a master lock key trying to impression it. Damn it’s hard
#lockboss. Thxs PJ and Tanner
It's always good to watch someone with a lot of experience do something when you want to learn a new skill! Thank you PJ & Tanner! #Lockboss
You are absolutely correct. But he is an ok impressioner. Not being critical. But he is a beginner himself. My normal time to impression that same lock at our shop
Is less than a minute. Not bragging is a reality. I’ve impressioned 130k locks in 30 years. I’ve impressioned everything well almost. No multi T Lock.
Thanks as I have run into that issue several times and needed to know how to solve it on site thank you much Lock Boss
DId this for the first time the on Monday!! Had the key done in 5 minutes (pretty sure it was more luck then anything lol!) AWESOME VIDEO PJ!! thanks (kid 🔐) for the rad tips brother!! You guys rock 🤘😁#LockBoss
Thanks Chad! -PJ
Dam five minutes?! Been messing with this cam lock for 30 minutes still can't see much in the way of marks.
I have been practicing impressioning over the last few years. Started with two different locks and a pile of blanks. The correct lighting definitely helps me see the marks. When you get started it definitely helps if you mark the spacing with depth keys or some other way in order to know where you should be looking. #lockboss
Good stuff, thanks for sharing 👍 -PJ
My #1 lockboss skill!
thank you pj & tanner! awesome video. that is the technique they taught us at lsi. knifing the blade is the way i usually do. again, thanks for showing whole process. #lockboss :)
PJ , Tanner well done on the Key Impersioning. # Lock Boss
This is the best impressioning video I have seen in a very long time. Does this work on a schlage SC1 JUST AS EASY. #lockboss
Thanks Debbie, yes but its not the best or easiest to do -PJ
definitely works. it's better if you use the coder when doing pin tubular if possible, or you could trap the key.
Nice video, I impression the same way and have for years. Sometimes on a lock I’m familiar with, I’ll use a felt tip pin on the blade to set up the spacing. Let the ink dry throughly and put key in slowly, do the 1,2,3 up down as in video and look for marks for spacing
Oops#Lockboss
I like that impressioning is coming more into the vogue these days, while I do not knife the blank, it’s neat to see how other people do it.
Right-PJ
Fantastic Tanner great video pj what a learning experience my friend 😎
Glad to hear! Thanks -PJ
I'm impressed by yalls impressive impressioning definitely #lockboss worthy
Thanks Keith! -PJ
Excellent video. Well explained and great editing. You showed tips I hadn't seen before. Thanks for this video #LockBoss (Australia)
Thanks! -PJ
This video really left a good "impression"... Nice work Tanner! Thanks to both of you. #lockboss
🤣 good stuff! Thank you -PJ
Just watched LockBoss impressioning which is something I have had problems. I plan trying the knifing technique.
Thanks guys there was some good reminders and nice new ways to impression #lockboss.
PJ, another good #LOCKBOSS tip, keep up the great videos. Nice refresher information.
Thanks Randy -PJ
Great video guy's. Really liked seeing the close-up's of the key as you went through the steps. #LOCKBOSS
Glad to hear! Thanks -PJ
To speed up the impressioning process how about using a set of depth & space keys.
I am an apprentice currently on my way to be a #lockboss# and your videos are very much appreciated
Awesome! Thank you! -PJ
I impressioned a key today for the first time for a paying customer. #Lockboss
Awesome, congrats-PJ
#lockboss
Well done Pj/Tanner
Interesting tips
Thanks for sharing
Very informative, I really appreciate sharing of knowledge and experience
Great video and great job Tanner.I need to start practicing my impressioning skills.#LockBoss
Great video guy's ... I think that way of impressing just might really help me cause I can't impression worth a darn .. Thanks #LockBoss
Definitely going to give this a try as this is my weak point. Was great to see another #lockboss share this technique
Hey Sean, great let us know how it goes!-PJ
This is a weak area of mine. I am going to try this technique and see how it works for me. Got to get a lot of 🔑 s for this. Thanks much guys. #LockBoss
Very cool, let me know how it goes! -PJ
Great video PJ, I was wondering about the knifing aspect from the previous one and appreciate the follow up - definitely helps learn how to impression like a #lockboss 😊
Great video. I have tried a few without success, but have never tried knifing before, and I have only tried pin tumbler and not wafer, so gotta find me some wafers to build up my skill before going after pin tumblers again. 🇨🇦#LockBoss🇨🇦
Good plan! -PJ
Kidlock looking old! May need a new nickname 🤔! Hope this helps the Lockbosses out there! Thanks Pj for the opportunity. #lockboss
Kidlock well done, you look as young as ever! -PJ
@@clksupplies 👍lol
You do a great job Tanner showing everybody else how it's done and you still a kidlock to me #lockboss
Great video! I told myself that I would learn how to impression this year. Thank you for this video! On my way to becoming a better #lockboss
Great video ,thanks,will need to try knifing,biggest difficulty is seeing the marks.
#lockboss
Yeah, I would practice on the same lock over and over! -PJ
We learned from that company back in the 60's and 70's, can't remember their name, but they were out of little falls New Jersey, and the way they taught you was to blacken the key with a match, remember those, book matches? Then as you filed just blacken it more after the dark wore off, no cell phones, no internet, How ever did we survive? lol
Valuable lesson as I am about to impression a vending machine wafer lock. Thanks. Lockboss#
Impressioning is tough. Great insights. #lockboss
Good video on impression guide. I am a big fan of making keys by impression. Thanks pj. James estep. # lockboss
in the close to 20 years I have been in the business (will be 20 next year) most of the time when I break out the pippin file I lightly file along the sides and top and get real shiny or I will knife it like he is showing . #LockBoss Great video keep up the good work !!
Thanks for sharing! -PJ
Nice impressioning, first, second, third, etc....... open!!! great #LockBoss work!!! I'll be trying this out later, i have many padlocks, no keys, and don't like doing it the hard way, damages the patina....
Great! Let us know how it goes! -PJ
To see the marks clearly I always use a magnifier. Makes a world of difference if your eyes are a little weak. #lockboss
Great point! -PJ
Thanks I'll have to practice with the knifeing #lockboss
I feel for your table,man!!
#lockboss
Great video tutorial. Good tip regarding starting with the wafer camlock. Will definitely try this method. #lockboss
Great! -PJ
Great tutorial!Personally, I like a flat edge(As I can see the marks easier)and I use sandpaper to prep the blank(Which leaves a much finer finish than a file)P.S. I have to admit, while impressioning is super cool and satisfying, given that it can be difficult and/or risk bending wafers, when originating a key for a lock, I prefer to disassemble it(When possible)and either decode the tumblers with a caliper or space and depth keys, or place the blank in, lightly whack the pins or wafers with the handle of a hammer or screwdriver to mark the spaces, and file them until the they are flush.
Good stuff! Thanks -PJ
Very good I just finished the Impressioning lesson in your book and your video helped a lot #lockboss
Glad it was helpful! -PJ
Great #Lockboss video! Tanner makes it look easy by emphasizing the most important point to take your time. Don’t try to bully force the process just to end up breaking your blank and make problems worse.
Good points, thanks for sharing! -PJ
Excellent, haven't seen impressioning... I'll give it a go.. Thanks!!! #lockboss
Great! -PJ
Great info need to order a pick set so I can do this thanks PJ. #LockBoss
Thanks Roger -PJ
I love the Locksmithing 101 videos. Keep it up. #LockBoss
Thanks! -PJ
Another Awesome #LockBoss video.
It's nice to see when someone is willing to take the time and really explain what is happening and why a technique works.
Thanks 🔑
Thabks Doug! -PJ
I can't find a locksmith in my area who can perform the ancient skill of impressioning. Wish you guys were here, but I guess I'm going to be forced to attempt this myself.
knifing. great idea! maybe i will try impressioning again. #lockboss
Very cool, let me know how it goes! -PJ
What about locks that can have tumblers go 0-1.00" (for example) but need to be .50" to be free at both top and bottom pints of the tumblers?
I really wanna learn this soon. Time to start practicing. #lockboss
Great to hear! -PJ
Definitely helps. Being a new Locksmith, this video along with some of the comments gives me the confidence as a #Lockboss to try again. Thank you
Very welcome! -PJ
Awesome video and nice tips to those like impressioning. Thanks PJ and Tanner!!! #Lockboss
🙌 -PJ
Enjoyed the video it was real helpful. What type of round file was he using?
Nice ! Never used knifing technique, but I’ll be trying it now. I do love the satisfaction from getting that lock to turn !! #LOCKBOSS
Yes, it is a great feeling!-PJ
I'm a big fan of making keys by impression. Great video on impression by knifing pj. James estep. #lockboss
Thanks James -PJ
I will try this out and prectice this #Lockboss
#LockBoss It good to know how to filed a key down
Interesting video. IMO- it seems that this only works on your more basic locks- stuff that would be just as easy to pick/ and replace with a new one if not decodable?! I tried this for a long time on SFIC before I found out that it's virtually impossible to do given the 2 shear lines.
Hi, great vid. When you are marking the key do you turn the blank in the direction to open the lock in order to get the wafer marks?
Thanks! I've never tried this, but it seems like a great method! #LockBoss
Hi PJ nice video I would like to know how do you make a key for aVictor treasure chest
Great ideas and tips!! Love this video!! #lockboss
WOW! What a great #LockBoss training video.
Question... do you ever have keys PRE-knifed and prepped for the field?
Hey Mark, glad you liked it. Typically not just because you never know what key you will need. BUT if you are going out to a job and you know the key then yes! -PJ
Is there a auto key impression video?
is it easier to impression pin tumbler locks with this method
I love impressioning locks but my vision isn't as good as it use to be. But I have to use a magnifier. #LockBoss
Another great video, great tip, rock up a couple times then rock down, seems like it works a bit better. I was taught knifing from the start but doing the rock up and down though I never really was taught a good way to impression pin locks. Way to be a #Lockboss yourself 👍
Thanks Ken! -PJ
I’ll have to try this... so far my only really good impressioning is a decent job of doing a handful of Chris Farley characters. #lockboss
😂 nice! -PJ
I wish I could impression but Im not very good at it.
Fantastic video. Thanks for the tips. #lockboss
can you use marking ink for tis
Thank you for the information. I very seldom use knifing but it is a good technique. #lockboss
I tried it do a Subaru and was talking to long, my BOSS had to come over and do it for me. He sends me to another call. And it's started raining on him.
I'm still working on doing this. I'm getting better but not good enough.
#Lockboss
I have a new video coming out soon on this -PJ
Think for the class it helps.# lockboss
Thanks-PJ
Awesome video! Can’t wait to give it a try! #Lockboss
Very Cool -PJ
This will help tremendously as I practice my Impressioning. A huge Thank You from this #LockBoss.
Thanks John, let me know how it goes! -PJ
A skill i have wanted to learn for a while! Thank you for the tips. #LockBoss
Owen, let me know how it goes! -PJ
Thanks for the video guys, I've been using the knifing method for thirty years that's really showing my age lol. #LOCKBOSS
💥💥💥 awesome #Lockboss style -PJ
Very Cool!! Thanks Guy's #lockboss
what is the tool you're using to hold the cylinder (Keedex ???)
Yes, keedex makes the plate-PJ
Excellant!!! Once you make the key and it is working, what is the next step? I don't think you would give the impressioned key to the customer. Do you just duplicate it or would you measure the depths and cut it on a code machine?
Tom #Lockboss
JMJ Locksmith
100% correct, you never want to give the customer the impressioned key, either duplicate or code cut depending on a variety of circumstances. Thanks Tom -PJ
AWESOME tutorial, I really enjoyed it. Even learned a couple things I want to try. Thanks #LockBoss
Great! Thanks -PJ
What do the marks look like after you file the key
Ronald, you are filing the marks away very slowly until there aren't any more marks, at the end the key cuts looks like a regular key because the dents caused by the pins or wafers have been removed, they are no longer being marked into the blank by the pins binding as you try to turn the key.
Well said Dave! -PJ
This lesson is greatly appreciated, good stuff 👍🔥👍🔥👍🔥🔐 #lockboss