Wargaming, You nerf Kran but make this instead?
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- Опубликовано: 4 дек 2024
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World of Tanks (WoT) is a massively multiplayer online game developed by the company Wargaming, featuring mid-20th century (1930s-1960s) era combat vehicles. It is built upon a freemium business model where the game is free-to-play, but participants also have the option of paying a fee for use of "premium" features. The focus is on player vs. player gameplay with each player controlling an armored vehicle.
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I fucking love this armour design. It's so interesting, it really adds a lot to the game.
Honestly this is what we needed. I almost quitted the game. But now that they introduced a assault TD, that is a impenetrable hull down, will add variety to the game that we desperately needed. Can't wait for the premium version.
I hecking love not being able to pen
@@Dakillzor u just get to mire the models more
@@nikolaskoric804 'variety' in hulldown meta ok what
I am just so happy they nerfed my Kran so far out of meta that I can now grind this before they nerf it. Oh boy!
Don't worry fellas, WG would never let that touch the live servers without change. Where all in good hands here from the wargaming balance ⚖️ department
But its slow and inaccurate so its already nerfed like Kran right? Right?….
im hopeing because the armor is crazy on literally the whole line, that wg will actually nerf the armor before it goes live, or speed. Because I can see this being a balanced tank if at least one of the two is decreased by a good amount
ahahaha
they will just get rid of the clip and let the 8s reload LUL
@@Darth.Plagueis with this armor, gun depression should be nerfed to -2°, so he can't take advantage of this in every position
When the Jäggerü has trouble penetrating the turret, you know damn well it’s too strong.
Friendly reminder once upon a time 62a and 113 were Overpowered pub tanks
Overpowered, yes, but not game breaking.
These new tanks are just toxic
They nerfed kran to add minotardo aka kran on crack
11/10 game design
Gotta give people something to get ;)
Everyone acts like they nerfed Krans armor. Its the same tank, just a little slower and less able to snipe. Thats it
"Kran on crack", the armor is worse, worse gun handling, slower, doesn't have a turret. But sure, it's a Kran on crack.
@@kingstoler "Armor is worse"
How high are you. Kran on level ground gets yeeted deleted by jpz heat and minotardo eats it for breakfast. The whole turret face is 300 raw while kran is 225. It has a tiny cupola u cant hit at all when its using its gun depression, upper plate is just as impenetrable as the turret face and the lower plate is 220-240 effective and rounded. Kran hull is paper.
Minotardo has one of if not the best soft stats in the game, has .04 dispersion while turning the turret and .08 while turning the tank. The only real bad thing about it is the .44 base accuracy (and maybe aim time) but bcz its a TD u have like 2-3 field mods to buff that.
With just a normal turbo and the first field mod it can go 44 and reliably, 1km/h less than the base nerfed kran. Kran also has horrifically bad terrain resistances so unless u fully commit with grousers, bond turbo, fuel and off-road driving (on the live server rn) u cant make it go past 45-50 anyway
@@danimal865 You mean it's not op or broken anymore? That's right, it no longer reloads in 20 seconds for 3x 440 and zoom around the map like a medium tank. Kran armor is nothing like this
So basically all you have to worry about frontally is a Jagdpanzer E100 surviving long enough to do 3 high pen roll shots.
And arty.
yes.
If its using the gun depression the jpze100 heat rounds still have a low chance of penetration. This tank is like a tier 11 armor wise.
it's a pubby chief
Actually, no. Qbaby showed that the lower plate is the only place to pen it frontal and if they have 0 angling and straight on, the lower plate has 320mm of effective armor in the center and 350mm on the sides. Every single aspect of the frontal armor is 400mm+ of effective armor. If you use the gun depression, it's over 430mm.
@@vladdracul2379 I thought "Don't expose your lower plate" was sort of a given. Should I run CVS as well?
Nerfing some tanks to implement some others OP tanks in the game, that's the real balance 5Head
free xp gold grind. When gold sells drop down, they make some op shit to grind...
The real balance not right path the nerf Make all tanks better
The FPS drop is clearly part of the balance to prevent you from bouncing to much comrade!
that's why when they announced they're nerfing kranvg i litteraly had 0 emotions. i was like: something else that's worse to the game balance is going to replace kran. i knew they don't do anything in this game unless it gives them profit.
279e and chief will only get stronger with the kranvagn nerf
They didnt even nerf the krans armour too
This is hilarious on so many levels.
I'm so bricked up rn, I can't wait to fight a Ferdi in this
Better yet a stock T-44
@@Dutchman-2002 or stock centurion
@@sanctus3325 better yet the top of the tree amx 50 100
Or anything at tier 8
What I really don't get, watching the WG trailer, is that every tank in the line starting at tier 7 is basically unpennable at their tier, but then the tier 9 just randomly gets ~150mm effective weak points on its turret? It's the M-VI-Y part 2.
Dont know how to play that yoh tank tier 9,
They make the tier 9 shit so that people pay free xp to skip it
problems about minotauro cupolas= 3 cupolas but you can pen what is middle while frontal double cupolas are not penable what means that when tank is in hulldown,that mid cupola is invisible what means that tank cant get pen,if tanks gg armor model is true,then even jg 100 td with 420 heat have hard time to pen
Jgpz needs pen high roll to get trough this
@@Dakillzor don't forget this crazy dpm. 20 sec reload time is crazy.. Kill one tank, push to advance position and u reloaded already
@@prezlamenprah1164 I mean it's not able to just clip someone out though. It's not really a fire all your shells then reload kind of tank. It's got an 8 second intraclip. WG is doing that thing where they make a new unique tank. Which could make a tank super good or super bad.
@@obliterator1543 Dude, that is insane dpm. 530 on 8 sec. That is 4240 dpm in 40 seconds.. And while u relocate u already reloaded full.. 20 sec is nothing.. It's too much firepower.
@@prezlamenprah1164 uhh your calculation is absurdly wrong but ignoring that, I never said the tank wasn't going to be broken. Essentially the tank isn't much of an autoloader it can be seen more as a 530 alpha damage every 8 seconds and then after 5 shots you have a longer reload. 60/8 is 7.5, 7.5 times 530 is 3975. All I was telling you is that you were wrong to think that this tank is gonna go clip someone out and then reload. The tank is essentially gonna be single shot.
Let's goo... Let's take to OP Kranvagn nerf and take another shit in game... Insane 😂😂
i love it how people are full of praise for WG for they finally nerfed swedish high tier heavies (but not a single reward shit) and in the same sentence they also state they are excited for the new italians ....
it really boggles my mind oO
I love how 2 of you were just standing looking at each other like "What the actual fuck WG, where pen?"
0:51 i love how both of you are just looking around trying to find out where you can pen
dont worry guys, they will buff the armor, because a jgpz can pen it if high rolls. and to "balance" it, they will make a gun like the gun on the tornvagn xd
Literally how WG works- nerf something free, then sell the replacement
The front of this tank, plate of turret and plate of the hull:
Turret size estimation: 3m width, 1m height, 300mm thick, standard stell: 6.4 tones
Plate: 2.5m width, 1m height, 300mm thick: 4.9 tones.
Front of the tank: 11.3 tones. Seems awfully heavy for the front wheels and shock absorbers.
I have no idea how these tanks should ever have gone into production but it seems that WG doesn't seem to care about this tank much
Why would they care, this is arcade game
@@cikuI00 if they cared, the tanks would be instantly balanced. Nothing balances better than the Laws of Nature. That's why there isn't this one tank that can do all things extremely well.
@@melaniejason3912 then Maus should break up every bridge in the game, and Tiger and Panther wouldn't make it to the battlefield due to shitty transmitions and too much weight xD Physical laws are for simulations, in WoT it would destroy the gameplay.
@@cikuI00 tiger H was very good and the problems were solutioned by the time of the panther G so they would be very good if you modeled them
Funny to see someone else doing the math too. And WG wrote that the total weight of this thing would be what? 60 tons? Yeah I don't know about that
Don't forget that the gun is front mounted too. A gun of that size weights several tons too
Wow! WG has a answer to every question, I thought you needed a kran or some other outdated tank but all you need to complete HT15 is an italian TD!
A moment of silence for the frontal shock absorbers. The strain on them must be insane with all this weight on the front of the tank.
Jagdpanther had like 80mm in the front (+ the gun ofc) and that tank suffered from this problem already
Edit: WTF there is literally no difference at the gun mantle AT ALL. Just straight 300mm of armour all around
Yes its just a solid 300mm plate
Balance 100
What have shock absorbers to do with a weight?🙄🙄😃😃 Torsion bars do!
@@rendzis I didn't bother to check what suspension type WG designed the tank with. But yeah, it's indeed torsion bar. Doesn't really change anything though
Because it's a paper tank ofc, same goes for so many russian tanks. In real life crew couldn't be over 1.60m to fit as a driver for the IS series, turrets so cramped and small they chop off legs when turning etc. But if you make turret big enough for the crew to function properly, it's a weak spot in the game xD
What the rhino should have been lol
no. no tank should be like this in the game.
@@mr.jx5n324 ofc ofc but also like as a TD, it's gonna play more like a heavy. In that regard, rhino is laughable compared to it
wargaming mad about the carrot, wanted a good italian maybe.
Also rino, imo Italy deserves a good tank finally
The carrot is good just be better
@@hhfhdgshdhhd9640 Say someone with 3k récent ahahah
Explanation of how to fight with this vehicle: If you cant see lower plate or dont have jagdpanzer with gold loaded you can do nothing, just run or die trying hit cupola. You also have option number 2, you can flank it, but good luck on that.
6:10 reminds me of an old movie scene
fun thing I noticed, if you are aiming up like this you can aim at a small weak spot between where the hull and track meets, aim up and you can hit a 20mm plate, its not the easiest of weakspots but if you have the knowledge your shots may get through.
still terrible armour design though.
Yea just make the cupolas pennable and then it would actually be that bad. Give that upper plat and turret strength but with the downside of decent size cupolas
That ending of Rocky was hillarious. But that tank O M F G
This tank against t9 8 🤣
It's literally an E3 with a traversable turret and is much faster and has better gun depression, oh and let's not forget pretty much an insane DPM where in the offtime you can either make them think you have rounds or your armour will just do the work.
I mean people were complaining that Kran cupolas are to small. Don’t worry WG fixed that problem in a new tank. Now you have big but unpenetrable cupolas. And the best thing is that WG marked them as orange in their patch video.
Suddenly I want arty in my games.
Honestly, today the WT Auf E-100 would be a common tank in this game, struggling to kill this thing. 60k damage blocked in a freaking shooting gallery. E3 has great armor but not at this level. This thing basically outclasses the E3 and the Badger because of the flexibility of the turret. I can already imagine all the tryhards trying to 3mark this thing ASAP and the clan wars infested with this thing as well as the Ranked games.
Been saving Italian blueprints and free xp. Tank looks real good.
To good!
thanks for being a great customer
consoomer
and our boy kran will die for whatever this is PepeHands
yeah we could already see back when bisonte was released, that quite some of italian tanks will have either no weak spot on their turrets, or its just going to be overall tough to deal with.
Hey guys, we made a penetrable cupola weakspot. True it is only visible at some angles and its partially blocked by an impenetrable cupola... but hey... its still a weakspot, right?
Another good tank from WG. Nice done
Most balanced t8 premium.
This is the tier 10, Havnt tried the T8 yet!
RNG without random, premium ammo as a credit drain and a matchmaker for premium.
Wargaming again misses the point here a tank can have op stats but as long as it has proper weakspots it will balance itself, after years of testing they still don't know this smh
you think after years of testing they don't know exactly what they are doing?
It's a beast when positioned perfectly head on but it seems you don't need to get much of an angle on it before it starts to become porous. This tank will require players to reposition and even encourage teamwork ( hopefully ) when opposing this tank. Unlike most matches where players either snipe weak cupolas or just spam gold and negate any armor a tank might have, some sort of tactics may actually be needed. It seems to be a one trick pony, great for hull down but will be vulnerable if you try to push a flank with it by yourself, unlike the first iteration of the Object 268/4 which did a good job of bouncing angled shots. Over angle this unit just a bit trying to sidescrape and it is good night Irene. Good players will make any tank seem OP and we shall see how this plays out. In typical WOT fashion players see first impressions and over react. Where have the Chrysler K, IS-3A, Defenders and other "OP" tanks that were going to absolutely dominate the game gone? AMX 50 Foch B, CS-63 and VZ-55 were all going to ruin the game upon release but have fallen out of favor. A reverse case is the Manticore which was initially crapped on by almost everyone but has proven itself to be perhaps the best tier 10 light tank. Once the common test is done and the final adjustments are made, we shall see how it performs in the real game. After a couple months, then we can start throwing ourselves about the merits of it.
I can kinda see you point. But the kran was also weak to flanking. Didn't mean that when it was hulldown with teammates around it wasn't the most unfun thing in the game to go up against. 268-4 has a bigger weak spot and no turret. This thing has comparable mobility, arguably better armour (smaller cupola), a turret and gun depression. Either make it slow as an E3 or nerf the shit out of that armour. Such mobile TD's should not have armour with hardly any weak spots AND a turret.
No these kind of hull down God impenetrable invincible stuff takes no skills to play
You gotta realise the only rounds that consistently penned (and that was a subpar chance even) was the highest pen rounds in the game. Wtf is anything lower even gonna do??
@@Monstrous_Delta
Hell, the 268 4 needs either an armor or a speed nerf. It bounces just as much shots as an E3 most games with a SMALLER weak spot (that can be hidden) AND it travels at the speeds of a fast medium or lower tier LTs. Then ON TOP OF THAT it gets nearly 300mm of pen with normal rounds. This tank should not be this powerfully armored with firepower AND still be able to move so fast. It's capable of getting to early spots like a medium tank with troll armor to boot.
Oehhhh Neffex, nice vid daki
So they removed the WT E-100.....and now they come up with this?
So what you're saying is that they should buff the interclip reload and the turret armor?
I missed some quality content here. Really excited for the Kran nerf so this can reign supreme. How much does the CS-63 push speed it up getting into positions?
WG managed to bring the PZ 2J meta to tier 10
MC Hammer - can't touch this, about to get a re-release
Classic WG, why are we still surprised ?
I'm not
just what the Game needed thx WG so much #KappaPride
Dont worry, they will balance it before release or in the next patch
If this tank hits the live server unchanged, I am uninstalling.
9:13 blows my ears out
And just like that kids, a new hull down king was born.
Can we now have E4 with armor of E3 ?
i think we may have a problem here boys
I quit WoT many moons ago after the game wide (medium in specific) armour buff + introduction of the obj whatever v4 when Clan Wars became 14 of those + 1 light (or maybe throw a few Chieftains into the line up to spice it up).
This thing just looks like a turreted version of that... with an autoloader. And then you have the e3, which is slower, doesn't have a turret, or an autoloader and armour that is apparently no better than this, and don't even mention the e4 (so they are 100% obsolete now?)... good to see WG are still smoking the harsh homemade crack 4-5 years later
Lmao you guys always find a reason to complain, this tank have the worst gun of every tier 10 td. Everyone was saying when they leaked the intraclip reload that this tank would be a flop, now i hear people saying it's op. How can a tank with that gun handling and an 8 intraclip reload be any good? The only decent thing about this tank is its armor. Max speed is bad, gun is bad, side armor is bad and turret on the front so no sidescraping. The only redeeming factor of this tank is its frontal armor wich makes the tank actually playable. U will never bounce that amount of shells in the normal server with this thing, people will obvsly ignore u and shoot something else, considering u can barely hit them from 200 meters.
It's basically a more versatile badger with a way worse gun, there's nothing op about this tank.
@@Rkglafjfs So there is still a reason to play the e4 or e3 over this thing? Tanks like this aren't good for the game, the exact same way the armour buffs for all the mediums wasn't and neither was the constant armour creep. The game because way more passive
@@sparky1595 e3 and e4 are good tanks in their own way and are arguably better in some situations. As i said the gun is the worst thing about this tank. E3 and E4 guns are overall better, e3 armor is kinda similar, e4 have better gun arc. So there's still a reason to play old tds over this tank. Also it's still in common test, so everything can change
It is difficult to balance things out when you are creating a monstrosity like that. Public games with 5 of these things on each team will be a nightmare. If it is going to have all that firepower and gun depression, let the turret at least be penetrable by most tier 10 vehicles.
This tank is all Badger should have been... unfortunately it's from a different timeline...
This scares me for when it comes to Blitz. Unpennable turret and upper hull WITH HEAT? Yeah that's gonna break the game. But, Wg is most likely gonna make it a paper tank and give it a 20 second reload for 1 shell
It's fine. I saw it from the pixels, weakspots are there - ready to be released.
the final music is better than previous :D (tank is balanced DA)
It's the same armour profile as the Chieftain and that tank is so healthy for the game 🤣, next ranked will be even more dull with 10 of these a side.
lets just forget that they are buffing the E5 line but not E5 because "it has shown decent performance since the last rebalance"
Is this 1/1 training available in some game mod?
When does this tank get released?
in my opinion, if they release it as it is, it will be much more OP than Wt. auf E100
You clearly dont remember how brutal wt e100 is especially in its first inception. The minotauro even as it is, is nowhere near that
uve never played against wt auf e100 then, that shit would make tier 10 tanks disappear
@@JWil97 people overrate the wte100 release it now and it is probaply not even that good
WT was never OP though. Just completly broken
WT was op for the exact opposite reasons
Pretty obvious business model. Bring out another OP tank knowing ppl will spend in game assets and probably real money grinding for it
Thanks for the video I was interested to see how good or bad it was
How can you set up such a 1v1 game? Is it training with a bot?
The Badger is more OP than this. The Minotauro is not OP by a long shot, it just has a very strong frontal turet armour thats it. The rest of it is meh, intraclip reload is painfully long.
wg needs people like you... if y want job, send cv to wg, you can only write mino is not op and y re accepted... L
Intraclip... With decent reload management you always have 530 for 8 seconds? Badger doesnt have a turret or mobility and is yet easier to pen
War gaming is proof we are in the simulation
CHONKOTAURO META!
Man I can't with this company anymore, so glad I play WoWs and Armored Warfare these days
So this is basically a waffentrager E-100 combined with a kranvagn ?
f2p 279e finally lol
i tried to pen his upper plate and turret with JG.PZ. All bounces (5 shells)
This tank, when using all of its gun depresion, can block a Jagdpanzer-E-100 HEAT shell to the turret.
New ranked season coming soon, ofc they release a new op tank.
those block missions will be much easier now:)
WG has a weird track record of rinse and repeat.
WG finally does TDs some justice 💅🏻
Can't wait for WG to lower this tanks alpha a tiny bit and make this a tier 8 premium
It would be a nightmere when you face it hull down in tier x
Yall forget how they did the rino dirty from the very beginning
There are a lot of crazy "geniuses" working in WG these days, oh God.
for a second there i though that was a real match and you 2 were just trying to find a weakspot
Hey now people let's stop the panic and look at the positive side of having this tank put into the game. With this tank the most sound competitive play strat will no longer be (two EBR and the rest Chiefs.) See wargaming obviously is thinking ahead.
ES EL TRUCO DE SIEMPRE, Sacan un tanque muy roto, te tiras 6 meses o mas para conseguirlo, cuando lo tiene todo el mundo, lo nerfean. Y vuelta a empezar
These muppets. There will be soon a 199 million silver model. And the premium version, for 88.000 gold, but with a prominent weakspot.
This what we all needed ! finally ! Wg knows there mistakes ! nerfed the Kranvagen it was simply Too Op, and This new tank would not hold up ot Kranvagen ! Kran would destroy this new Td line ! Man i really hope that Maybe the will add a bit more turret armor to this TD so it wont be too week !
if italy can have this behemoth of a tank... WG bring back Waffle E100
so badger is also op tank?
badger has no turret
@@Dakillzor "İt doesn't have any weak spot at all''
If they keep it like this might as well rebuff the 268v4 to have the impenetrable cupola like the start.... just for variation purposes Pepelaugh
I’m trying to say something but I don’t even know what to say after watching this I’m so 💀. WG : “ no worries you will be fine “
RIP to all the t8 who will face this thing...
60k block....nice, good job, supertest is amazing job
Is it a premium?
If they are not going to balance italian TD armor properly throughout the whole line, i will leave for like 1 month or so... i just refuse to fight 5 of them every match
thats why i wish for TT costs of everything to be FOC
9:26 bro i got so scared sadden music 😢