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  • Опубликовано: 24 июл 2018
  • I have an idea for some big forged spikes. But first I will need a big nail header and to make that I need a square punch. Today we will look at forging the punch and the header.
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Комментарии • 81

  • @xxxclampgodxxx5511
    @xxxclampgodxxx5511 6 лет назад +4

    Another good one. The wire brush sounds like Santa’s slay bells. LOL👍. Thx again John ..Paul..

    • @workwithnature
      @workwithnature 6 лет назад

      Ha you know I was thinking the same it sounds very similar.

  • @TomokosEnterprize
    @TomokosEnterprize 6 лет назад +4

    That was the quickest 19 min. I have seen all day. I am sure looking forward to the next post. Thanks my talented friend !

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад +1

      Hopefully not to short.

    • @TomokosEnterprize
      @TomokosEnterprize 6 лет назад +1

      I could watch all day as I am mostly chair bound now. This was nice as it finished today's project.

  • @JennyDMyWorld
    @JennyDMyWorld 2 года назад +1

    I love it!

  • @leperejoe1536
    @leperejoe1536 6 лет назад +5

    Well explained. More tooling to make.

  • @nofunclub
    @nofunclub 6 лет назад +2

    You are my favourite RUclips blacksmith
    Jim
    RUclips apprentice
    The Netherlands

  • @tomcarlson3244
    @tomcarlson3244 4 года назад

    I enjoy every time you make a new tool.

  • @DavoShed
    @DavoShed 6 лет назад

    Great video as always !

  • @larryking606
    @larryking606 5 лет назад

    I find your Videos very interesting and may I say that you are a True Blacksmith !

  • @mikeywatts322
    @mikeywatts322 6 лет назад +1

    yeah, thankyou heaps John. i really enjoy this type of vid; that little snapshot of a thing always in flux, this Blacksmithing thing. making tools to make a tool to punch this or that.. i had no idea when "i just wanna make a Kukhri. and maybe a billhook" that a whole world opened up and i realised I'd need to make some tongs. and a punchdrifthotcutbolsterflatter etcetera 😜anyhow, i reckon you all know what i'm saying! i love the process- and when you need more tools? hey, just make 'em! cheers John, and great timing because i was wanting to knock up some chunky hardware for my also chunky Australian hardwood butcher's block, cheers again

  • @workwithnature
    @workwithnature 6 лет назад +4

    Good one cheers. Always like it when you get to do some forge welding as part of a video.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад

      It's a skill I want people to see as just another technique instead of some ancient mystery.

    • @workwithnature
      @workwithnature 6 лет назад

      Yes it is very handy to be able to do. When you demonstrate how it can be applied it sparks new ideas, but also I would not have thought of using it in that way, you know, to make a header.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад +1

      Sometimes there just isn't a need for a big piece of steel on a tool like this. I think historically it was common to make them like this.

  • @steelpennyforge5152
    @steelpennyforge5152 6 лет назад +1

    Really cool project, looking forward to part 2

  • @Luis-eu2ow
    @Luis-eu2ow 6 лет назад +2

    I like the new opening. Keep growing and trying out new things. Keep on hammering videos out! I love the channel.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад +1

      Thanks. I thought I would try the more formal but shorter opening to see how it goes.

    • @Luis-eu2ow
      @Luis-eu2ow 6 лет назад +1

      Black Bear Forge it keeps it succinct and I think it works quite well. It sets a nice pacing for the video and makes it easy to listen to when not necessarily looking at the screen to know when you are on a new video. Keep on meing awesome!

  • @joeynighttrain1126
    @joeynighttrain1126 4 года назад +1

    Thank you sir for sharing your knowledge 👍🏼✨👍🏼

  • @rickchargois9322
    @rickchargois9322 6 лет назад +3

    I was actually planning to make a smaller version of one of these for an upcoming project so as always I do appreciate the lesson. Your instruction is, for me, one of the best series online. Take care

    • @gordonfamilyforge134
      @gordonfamilyforge134 6 лет назад +1

      Same here, I have six for different size nails. Was planning on making a spike header soon.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад +1

      These actually get harder to make in smaller sizes. Little punches heat up so fast its tough to get the hole punched.

    • @rickchargois9322
      @rickchargois9322 6 лет назад

      Ill give it a try and send you a photo of the outcome. Thanks for the inspiration!!

    • @gordonfamilyforge134
      @gordonfamilyforge134 6 лет назад

      Black Bear Forge video intro I drilled my holes in the smaller ones and then ran a square taper through it to final size the hole. I tried punching it it didn't work out for me.

  • @brianfalls5894
    @brianfalls5894 3 года назад

    John, I love watching you work your magic here but you really need to get yourself a partner to hold onto the projects or swing the hammer for you so you don't have to work so hard. Great work just the same!

  • @johndilsaver8409
    @johndilsaver8409 6 лет назад

    I really enjoyed that, especially the forge welding. Thanks!

  • @valsforge4318
    @valsforge4318 6 лет назад

    A pleasure to watch, as always,Thanks.

  • @3870TheDad
    @3870TheDad 6 лет назад

    Thanks again for another great instructional video!! I especially like the way you introduced yourself and your channel. A lot better than many other channels.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад

      Thanks, I have been watching videos on how to improve your videos. So I thought I would try some new things

  • @waltparkhurst2494
    @waltparkhurst2494 6 лет назад +1

    Another awesome well explained video thank you John.

  • @jaylark6528
    @jaylark6528 6 лет назад

    Thanks John! Another well done video. Can't wait to see what you have in mind for the giant nails.

  • @OuroborosArmory
    @OuroborosArmory 6 лет назад

    Nice new intro!

  • @allyblair
    @allyblair 6 лет назад

    Thanks john

  • @jimhumphrey
    @jimhumphrey 6 лет назад +1

    I noticed you balancing the piece on you apron while you forged. I can't do that I reluctantly split my leather apron up from the bottom to be able to hold a bar while forging. ....Big nail needs a big hammer! :)

  • @luukderksen8810
    @luukderksen8810 6 лет назад

    Hello John, 2 queations.
    1:
    Will you do a vid. About dressing your anvil. You already made a vid. Over anvils and subsitus. Dressing the corners. Fix the dimple on the face of the anvil.
    2. Your Bolt tongs are a piece of art. i have made 2 of them but your jaw is much Nicer. I know that. Video is coming out one day but i wanted to say that.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад

      Dressing the anvil is coming up in the next few weeks. I will also be making a bolt tong video, however in many of the videos IO am using tongs from Off Center tools. hey make an excellent bolt tong.

  • @GWIRailroad
    @GWIRailroad 6 лет назад

    Perfect timing, I was just wondering about a nail header. Mine will need to be smaller but the principal should work. Thank You!

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад

      The only trouble is that the smaller the square punch, the easier it heats up and bends while trying to make the hole.

    • @matthewmerrick4452
      @matthewmerrick4452 6 лет назад

      Does the header need to be hardenable steel?
      I was just thinking about a project that would be great with hand forged nails.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад

      No, but if you use it lots it will deform and a burr will form on the inside of the head which grabs the nail shank and makes it hard to remove.

  • @20mcarroll02
    @20mcarroll02 6 лет назад

    I've got a smaller one to make also. Want to make some old tapered nails. I think some people call them concrete nails, although to me they look like large clinch nails that farriers use.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад +1

      The somewhat triangular looking nails are actually cut from strips.

    • @20mcarroll02
      @20mcarroll02 6 лет назад

      Black Bear Forge i did not know that.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад +1

      Do a web search for Treamont nail company. They still make cut nails on original machines.

  • @kennethomeara9848
    @kennethomeara9848 6 лет назад

    Hello John, I am wondering if you have a video on forging two round bars together (kinda like if you wanted a cross) this is for a lid lifter for Dutch ovens.
    Thank you for your great videos
    And knowledge

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад

      The half lap joint might work for that. ruclips.net/video/kb63noxjEp8/видео.html

  • @davidsimons9132
    @davidsimons9132 5 лет назад

    Could a railroad spike be used to make a nail header?

  • @gordonfamilyforge134
    @gordonfamilyforge134 6 лет назад

    Are there any rules of thumb that you would give a new blacksmith as to the type of Steel they should use for different types of tooling? For instance impact-resistant tools, drifts, tongs. I'd like to develop a better idea of when to use certain steals if you have any books that you would recommend let us know please thanks

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад

      Its really more a matter of using materials you have access to and are comfortable working with. While H13 and S7 make great tools they are expensive and a bit more technical to heat treat. For most blacksmithing uses 4140 or 5160 work fine, they just need to be cooled more often and probably dressed or sharpened more often as well.

  • @camelcitytattooshopp
    @camelcitytattooshopp 6 лет назад

    Im curious about elavation? Def.makes a difference when cooking wondering if it affects smithin

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад

      It does affect a gas forge, but I haven't been aware of any issues with coal. Of course I have rarely forged at a lower altitude.

  • @tdemario3753
    @tdemario3753 6 лет назад

    Could you not harden and temper the punch and still have a good punch?
    I say this because won’t you loose the hardness and temper by when the punch heats up from use?

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад

      You can and there are some people that do that. However even if the tip gets to hot the shank stays fairly hard and is less likely to bend. The tip also doesn't get fully soft unless you get it back up to critical temp. Try making two punched fro the same material and do a side by side comparison. I haven't tried that myself, but it would be an interesting experiment.

  • @johnwest4788
    @johnwest4788 6 лет назад +1

    Do you wear any UV protective glasses when forge welding?

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад

      I do not. I have known some people that do, but very few. Mostly you just don't stare at it, but rather glance at it from time to time.

    • @gordonfamilyforge134
      @gordonfamilyforge134 6 лет назад

      I do a lot of lighting design, the color temperature of your house lighting correlates to the temperature of a hot material. Your average household light has a color temperature of 3000 to 6000 degrees Kelvin, at forging temperature I'm assuming you're between 1700 and 2200 degrees so the light coming off of that should not hurt your eyes. The part to concern yourself with I think would be the infrared light which the effects are based on the distance from the object. So forging temperature color should not hurt your eyes

    • @johnwest4788
      @johnwest4788 6 лет назад

      Interesting. I have only yet made one successful forge weld and that was a lap weld. But I've unintentionally burned up a few pieces in my home made coal forge! :O. In my home made propane forge, I've never achieved welding temperatures.

  • @timk.1395
    @timk.1395 6 лет назад

    Would re-fluxing where you started to get weld shear be important for rewelding?

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад

      In most case it would be a good idea. I may have done that off camera.

  • @BB_46
    @BB_46 6 лет назад

    Can you tell me more about vermiculite? It looks like there's different grades,what do you recommend? Also is perlite similar or could I use just plain sand with the same results. Thanks.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад +1

      I know you can buy asbestos free vermiculite and in most areas that is all you can buy. I think perlite is similar, but I'm not sure if it performs the same or not. sand would be OK, but it probably doesn't insulate as well. Wood ash works very well, but tends to drift around the shop and make a mess.

    • @BB_46
      @BB_46 6 лет назад

      Black Bear Forge thanks I will check out what I can get around here. Much appreciated.

  • @reneemills-mistretta790
    @reneemills-mistretta790 5 лет назад

    Is there a specific formula in tempering different steel?

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  5 лет назад

      There are thousands of steel types, each with its own recommended hardening and tempering specs. Most can be found online, in books or even cell phone apps

  • @bunyanforgings7849
    @bunyanforgings7849 6 лет назад

    Is it necessary to dome the top of a nail heading tool like I've seen in other videos? Or can I leave it flat?

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад

      The dome helps you create facets on the nail head by allowing your hammer to tip without hitting the edge of the header. If you are just making flat heads instead of the classic rose head then it itsn't required.

    • @bunyanforgings7849
      @bunyanforgings7849 6 лет назад

      Gottcha. Thanks, John.

  • @wallacedavis8922
    @wallacedavis8922 6 лет назад

    What are you quenching your punch in ?

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад

      most sucker rod is an oil quench steel. I use commercial quenching oil. I'm afraid I don't recall the brand name.

  • @JF-fx2qv
    @JF-fx2qv 6 лет назад

    Revamped intro?

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад

      On some level. We'll see if I can remember to do the same type of thing on every video. Then it's just a matter of whether or not it seems to improve the videos.

    • @JF-fx2qv
      @JF-fx2qv 6 лет назад

      If video improvement is important to you, there are no better critics than the ones you ask. Open the door and they'll walk in.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад

      That is certainly a risk. Always room for improvement. But how one defines improvement can be very different from one critic to the next

    • @JF-fx2qv
      @JF-fx2qv 6 лет назад

      Its your risk, its your choice. The tools of measure are the viewers opinions. What you do with the info. is up to you. You'll know the end result. It seems important to you and since it seems to be a part of your business it must be? It always interesting to me that many RUclips Channels do one thing in common … they second guess their viewers. There are many reasons why someone views a channel as there are channels. True you can't satisfy everyone with every video. Again, its your business. When I first came across RUclips I had no idea people were paid to create a channel. As I became a regular viewer I have many opinions of RUclips and the people that make the channels. Let's just say, if I ever create a RUclips channel it would not be my goal to earn money. You want to be big - think like a CEO - You no longer own your channel, your channel is owned by the viewers. RUclips is just a middle man. RUclips manipulates its viewer as much as it does the creator of a channel. It's not easy to be a viewer of RUclips …. in fact it's a fight …. a fight with not real benefit.

    • @BlackBearForge
      @BlackBearForge  6 лет назад +1

      I certainly agree that viewer op pinions are important. Which is why I frequently ask for input on various aspect of both the blacksmithing side and the video production side of the channel. In most cases people offer their opinions freely without being asked, such as this video. Those that have commented on the different intro have liked it (although i suspect you may not, but you haven't actually said anything specific). the only way to get informed opinions is to try something for a while and then see what the response is. But there are many other ways to know exactly what the viewers want to see. What you perceive as second guessing the viewer is often times the result of many hours of statistical analysis that shows exactly what people are watching, for how long and when they stop watching and leave the channel. When the analytics show a big drop off (50% on most videos is about 1,500 viewers) at certain consistent points in videos, that says way more than the voiced opinion of a very few viewers. Both are always considered. But I wouldn't consider it second guessing any more than a retail outlet that purchases for the next season based on the previous seasons sales.
      RUclips does not actually pay anyone to create. RUclips allows me to create as I wish and I may then have the option of allowing Google to run ads on my videos at the time and place I chose. I don't have any input on which ads run however. While I admire you idealism to have a channel that doesn't seek financial gain. I have found that spending half of my working day managing a RUclips channel instead of producing a products for customers requires some form of income. My shop rate for general blacksmithing is about $60 per hour. My rate for video production is about $10 per hour. So its not like I'm making a huge amount of money on RUclips. What I do make does allow me to upgrade cameras, microphones and lighting from time to time, usually based on observations from viewers.
      In RUclips as in blacksmithing and life in general my goal is to always improve.