@@cameronfitch9357 I ordered mine frm the dealership and I also had them install the parts. I think there are 8 weights and you can buy them online from Partzilla. www.partzilla.com/product/yamaha/2UD-17632-00-00
Just picked a new 2019 Kodiak 700 EPS as well. HUGE difference compared to my Honda Ranchers in every way, which I won't get into. I'm still undecided on whether or not to do the clutch weight change. Like you, others have reported that the rpms have gone up. I would have thought that the rpms would have gone down but I'm still trying to understand CVT's. I suppose I could change them out and if I don't like them switch back. I certainly don't want the added noise at cruising speed which would be on roads and flat trails. In closing, where did you get that mirror you have mounted on the front rack?
I'm a fan of riding it for a while in stock form then if I feel like it needs improvement here or there I can address it. I don't notice the rpm difference anymore. It was only for the first couple of rides. I got the mirror in the bike section at Walmart.
If you want better performance without all the high RPMs go get a Hunterworks machine Sheave or you can add to. 2 mm of Shim to clutch that lowers the gear ratio of a little bit for a lot better take off.
The way the weights work is through centrifugal force. The more weight the easier the move (less rpm) the less weight the faster the clutch has to spin to get the weights to move (more rpm) as those weights move they force the drive pulley sheaves to close making a "bigger" pulley. You have a primary spring in there also that changes performance curves. Then you have the driven pulley. It opens as speed and rpm builds making the pulley "smaller". The helix and spring etc. can be changed as well to tune it further as well. Here is a link that talks about sleds which have the same clutch systems www.sledgear.com/driventech.htm
Hey Dude, I had the shop change out my clutch weights so I don't have any personal experience with the process. I would think that you want the weights to have a good coating of grease on them.
It depends on how touchy you want the throttle to be. With just the weights the throttle is quicker but it doesn't jump at the first touch. There's still a long, controllable throttle curve. Good luck with your 31's.
hi there , nice video..very informative. I could tell from your pov camera that the clutch engagement was definitely quicker with the new weights. Also , the sound was louder but it doesn't sound bad at all..sounds like a Grizzly,sort of. If you ever hear a Cannedham youd swear a cat was caught up in the belt.
Hi guys. Also I think the factory set-up on the clutch is meant for saving the belt while in tight,wheel jamming,low range slow motion and while pulling a heavy load. The slight delay also gives the rider a more controllable throttle/clutch engagement for hairy situations like spinning out on a steep up-hill. Just wondering about the air intake and cvt vents; are they located high and dry like the new Grizzly?Maybe you could show us a video on it. I dont like to ever go in deep water,but as you know,the higher the better.
I don't notice the rpm difference anymore. It was definitely an improvement for me. There are other upgrades to make too, like an exhaust upgrade and fuel programmer. Good luck with yours.
The 2017 Kodiak has a different motor than the 2019 so you may want to do a little more research on the subject but these were the weights I found for your machine. www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-Rhino-Hisun-Massimo-Menards-UTV-ATV-Clutch-CVT-roller-weights-bearings/262841825001?fits=Year%3A2017%7CModel%3AGrizzly+700%7CMake%3AYamaha&hash=item3d3297f6e9:g:hiMAAOSwo4pYmhlk
Hello, Your English is pretty good. For my style of riding it works really well. I like to hit the throttle on little bumps and wheelie over them. With the Kodiak clutch weights I had to anticipate the bump and hit the throttle a little early so it would be timed right. The Grizzly clutch weights give me more of an immediate throttle response. The cost of the weights aren't very much if you do the work yourself.
I got the 2018 model I wanted it because it has a 708 and it's the last year they made it the now call it a 700 but it's a 668 they should have called it a 660 and had 8 More cc than advertised. I have had offers of 8k for my 708 people were pissed that Yamaha did that.
I read that Yamaha's original 686 engine was made at a factory that got destroyed and they outsourced the 708 motor from Subaru until they got their own operation back up and running. I agree with you that the bigger motor is more desirable but I'm really satisfied with how this atv runs.
Hold your over ride and smash your throttle and you’ll see a big difference you get all the power at once instead of not utilizing all the power while over ride is off. I hate the over ride I wish they just made the quad with all the power without over ride.
I have the 2018 kodiak 708 I figured it out on that. At first I thought it was for reverse to over ride the limiter but it’s actually to over ride the power limiter in low and hi gear. Your welcome thanks for the reply.
This looks like Divide 717 area if so I ride there I have a 2020 grizzly 700 and I'm getting ready to put a 1 or 1.5mm shim in my primary clutch cause I heavier tires on it, there not bigger just heavier
@@coloradokodiak7009 Ok ya I live bout 4 hrs from there but our group is going to make another trip here in a couple weeks but I will let u know but every body in my group rides dirt bikes except me so it would be wonderful to ride with another atv
@@coloradokodiak7009 I have trail rode at taylor park for 22 years and use to race sport quads back in my prime but I'm 50 years old now and to old for racing but now I just love to trail ride
@@timharris7425 I'm with you on trail riding, I just love it. I rode the 717 mainly because it was the closest to my house but it's also such a great trail. Now I live further south so I'm trying different trails. My next ride will be on the Rainbow trail.
@@coloradokodiak7009 I just watched your review on the tusk mudforce and that's the same exact tires I I'm running I haven't had them on very long but so far so good there mounted on sti hd4 5+2 wheels and I run 26 9 12 on all 4 corners the 9 inch wide mudforce is nearly as wide as the stock rear maxxis but the mudforce has more of a footprint and works great
I'm not going to have a good answer to that question because I don't ride it that fast from a top end standpoint. 0- 25 mph is the range I normally ride and on the dirt roads I usually don't go above 35. Sorry.
Same top speed on my 19' (rev limiter @ 63mph) but it gets there quite a bit faster with 20g Pre-16' weights installed on mine. Went from getting beat off the line but slowly catching a Can-am 570 to flat out walking away! The Kodiak is giving up 4-5hp to the wheels compared to a Grizzly since the 30g weights are holding the engine back about 1000rpm lower up to 50mph.
@@coloradokodiak7009if you didn’t plan on going over 35mph you could have easily went with the 450 Kodiak mine tops out at 53-55mph. The 700 might be over kill for your use but nice machine.
My brute force 750i is instantaneous throttle response. Blows my Kodiaks away. Its quieter, quicker, faster, and much better ride. But the Kodiaks do sip gas compared to the brute. I thought the Kodiaks would perform better with the lighter clutch, definite improvement but tough to compare against my Brute.
I like the Brute Force too. Since I haven't ridden anything more powerful than the Kodiak 700 I don't feel like it's lacking anything. It's been a great machine!
My two buddies have the BF while I have a rancher and foreman. Their bikes are no doubt impressive on power and speed. However, we often can't schedule a ride because one of them is broke down. Always something. Power steering, belt slipping, running excessively rich, won't start. While my boring honda's just fire right up and do every kind of riding I need to do and get me back home. And they are usually below a half tank of gas when I might have lost one bar and the honda still looks full. I have heard the yamaha's are pretty good for reliability and I picked up a 2020 wolverine x2 xtr to play with. Considering a Kodiak or Grizzly in my future but I do prefer the gear trans of the hondas.
I don't regret making the change. For the way I ride on the trails that I ride it was an improvement. I've heard that adding a shim will make an even bigger difference.
I have done the same on my Kodiak 2020 plus a purple spring and the 1.5 shim. I lost 3-5 mph top end but the throttle response and the low speed torque is what we want... Well worth the money in my opinion. The EHS tuner is a great upgrade as well. Post up a video when you add it. Great video by the way. Keep up the good work.
@@coloradokodiak7009I love Colorado. Would love to ride there on the wheeler. Some beautiful country. The shim help the low end more than anything else in my opinion.
Hey there got a couple questions. Did you notice any difference between the top speed with the 2 sets of weights ? Also are you on 25’ tires? Thank you
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Thanks for posting this. This is a good starting mod for getting a lil more out of these Kodiaks.
It's an inexpensive upgrade that doesn't go outside the Yamaha engineer's design since they put it in the Grizzly.
@@coloradokodiak7009 how many clutch weights do I order and where do I find them online? Please help me
@@cameronfitch9357 I ordered mine frm the dealership and I also had them install the parts. I think there are 8 weights and you can buy them online from Partzilla. www.partzilla.com/product/yamaha/2UD-17632-00-00
@@coloradokodiak7009 thank you, so how noticeable is the difference in power?
@@cameronfitch9357 It's more of a quickness of the clutch engaging.
Just picked a new 2019 Kodiak 700 EPS as well. HUGE difference compared to my Honda Ranchers in every way, which I won't get into. I'm still undecided on whether or not to do the clutch weight change. Like you, others have reported that the rpms have gone up. I would have thought that the rpms would have gone down but I'm still trying to understand CVT's. I suppose I could change them out and if I don't like them switch back. I certainly don't want the added noise at cruising speed which would be on roads and flat trails. In closing, where did you get that mirror you have mounted on the front rack?
I'm a fan of riding it for a while in stock form then if I feel like it needs improvement here or there I can address it. I don't notice the rpm difference anymore. It was only for the first couple of rides.
I got the mirror in the bike section at Walmart.
If you want better performance without all the high RPMs go get a Hunterworks machine Sheave or you can add to. 2 mm of Shim to clutch that lowers the gear ratio of a little bit for a lot better take off.
@@crazyflyboy30 Thanks! A Sheave or shim is definitely in my future.
The way the weights work is through centrifugal force. The more weight the easier the move (less rpm) the less weight the faster the clutch has to spin to get the weights to move (more rpm) as those weights move they force the drive pulley sheaves to close making a "bigger" pulley. You have a primary spring in there also that changes performance curves. Then you have the driven pulley. It opens as speed and rpm builds making the pulley "smaller". The helix and spring etc. can be changed as well to tune it further as well. Here is a link that talks about sleds which have the same clutch systems
www.sledgear.com/driventech.htm
@@whiskeytangofoxtrot9403 That's great info, thanks.
Great video, an install video would be awesome.
Thanks Anton! I had the shop do this one since it seems kind of complicated.
Could I get a link to where you found these weights? I would love to get these. Maybe a instal video to?
I ordered mine from the Yamaha dealer and I had their shop install them. There are clutch install videos out there though.
Try the coops 45 mod. Google it and watch the video.
@@coloradokodiak7009 how much was it for the weights and then how much for the labor?
@@Duplexpine The weights were about $20 and labor was about $75
@@coloradokodiak7009 not as bad as I thought it was going to be. Worth it?
Do u need to mess with grease or anything if u are only changing out the weights ?
Hey Dude,
I had the shop change out my clutch weights so I don't have any personal experience with the process. I would think that you want the weights to have a good coating of grease on them.
Are those speed bumps or did the dirt bike guys design the trails for themselves? Looks like Rampart Range, not the best for heavy ATV riding.
They're motorcycle whoops and they certainly change the riding experience. This is in the Divide trails which is right across the valley from Rampart.
Hey there got a couple questions. Did you notice any difference between the top speed with the 2 sets of weights? Also are you on 25’ tires? Thank you
So i am about to put on some 31 inch outlaws should u do this or a full clutch kit?
It depends on how touchy you want the throttle to be. With just the weights the throttle is quicker but it doesn't jump at the first touch. There's still a long, controllable throttle curve. Good luck with your 31's.
Try the coops 45 mod. Machined sheive 3.1 to 1. No loss of top end speed or power. No mods to the secondary clutch. Its pretty sweet.
Thanks for the tip!
Try the pmi purple spring on the secondary and 16 gram weights with a 1mm shim...that will wake it up some more
Yeah, that sounds like a real strong setup.
Did you only just change the weights and nothing else?
That's correct
hi there , nice video..very informative. I could tell from your pov camera that the clutch engagement was definitely quicker with the new weights. Also , the sound was louder but it doesn't sound bad at all..sounds like a Grizzly,sort of. If you ever hear a Cannedham youd swear a cat was caught up in the belt.
That's funny! Thanks for the positive feedback!
Hi guys. Also I think the factory set-up on the clutch is meant for saving the belt while in tight,wheel jamming,low range slow motion and while pulling a heavy load. The slight delay also gives the rider a more controllable throttle/clutch engagement for hairy situations like spinning out on a steep up-hill.
Just wondering about the air intake and cvt vents; are they located high and dry like the new Grizzly?Maybe you could show us a video on it. I dont like to ever go in deep water,but as you know,the higher the better.
Still takes around the same time but now it just revs more . Probably feels snappier. I can hear the differences in RPM.
I don't notice the rpm difference anymore. It was definitely an improvement for me. There are other upgrades to make too, like an exhaust upgrade and fuel programmer. Good luck with yours.
I have a 2017 kodiak base model...could you share the link I’d like to order the weights for my machine.Thank you!
The 2017 Kodiak has a different motor than the 2019 so you may want to do a little more research on the subject but these were the weights I found for your machine.
www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-Rhino-Hisun-Massimo-Menards-UTV-ATV-Clutch-CVT-roller-weights-bearings/262841825001?fits=Year%3A2017%7CModel%3AGrizzly+700%7CMake%3AYamaha&hash=item3d3297f6e9:g:hiMAAOSwo4pYmhlk
Cool.
Hey i m not very weel in the english but i have a kodiak 2019 did you really think that the grizz clutch is very more tork it’s worth it vs the price?
Hello,
Your English is pretty good.
For my style of riding it works really well. I like to hit the throttle on little bumps and wheelie over them. With the Kodiak clutch weights I had to anticipate the bump and hit the throttle a little early so it would be timed right. The Grizzly clutch weights give me more of an immediate throttle response.
The cost of the weights aren't very much if you do the work yourself.
If you like more performance and better acceleration get you a Hunterworks machine sheave.I. did and the different awesome. Love it now..
Thanks for the tip!
I got the 2018 model I wanted it because it has a 708 and it's the last year they made it the now call it a 700 but it's a 668 they should have called it a 660 and had 8 More cc than advertised. I have had offers of 8k for my 708 people were pissed that Yamaha did that.
I read that Yamaha's original 686 engine was made at a factory that got destroyed and they outsourced the 708 motor from Subaru until they got their own operation back up and running.
I agree with you that the bigger motor is more desirable but I'm really satisfied with how this atv runs.
The 686 is bulletproof. There is a reason Yamaha hasn’t changed it.
@@maxnak2556 It has more than enough power for everything I've tried so far.
The 708cc motor had/has some reliablilty and leaking oil issues. Not a lot but enough for Yamaha to go back to a tried and true engine.
686 my guy not 668🤦
Hold your over ride and smash your throttle and you’ll see a big difference you get all the power at once instead of not utilizing all the power while over ride is off. I hate the over ride I wish they just made the quad with all the power without over ride.
That's interesting. Thanks for the tip.
I have the 2018 kodiak 708 I figured it out on that. At first I thought it was for reverse to over ride the limiter but it’s actually to over ride the power limiter in low and hi gear. Your welcome thanks for the reply.
I have a 2016 kodiak...please explain how you hold your override and explain what the override is.
I'm new to this, thanks.
The override button is for eliminating the speed limiter while the diff lock is engaged.
This looks like Divide 717 area if so I ride there I have a 2020 grizzly 700 and I'm getting ready to put a 1 or 1.5mm shim in my primary clutch cause I heavier tires on it, there not bigger just heavier
Correct, that is the 717. I really like that trail system. Let me know if you want to ride together.
@@coloradokodiak7009 Ok ya I live bout 4 hrs from there but our group is going to make another trip here in a couple weeks but I will let u know but every body in my group rides dirt bikes except me so it would be wonderful to ride with another atv
@@coloradokodiak7009 I have trail rode at taylor park for 22 years and use to race sport quads back in my prime but I'm 50 years old now and to old for racing but now I just love to trail ride
@@timharris7425 I'm with you on trail riding, I just love it. I rode the 717 mainly because it was the closest to my house but it's also such a great trail. Now I live further south so I'm trying different trails. My next ride will be on the Rainbow trail.
@@coloradokodiak7009 I just watched your review on the tusk mudforce and that's the same exact tires I I'm running I haven't had them on very long but so far so good there mounted on sti hd4 5+2 wheels and I run 26 9 12 on all 4 corners the 9 inch wide mudforce is nearly as wide as the stock rear maxxis but the mudforce has more of a footprint and works great
So it has a clutch or is it an atomic
It has a CVT
How does that affect the top end speed?
I'm not going to have a good answer to that question because I don't ride it that fast from a top end standpoint. 0- 25 mph is the range I normally ride and on the dirt roads I usually don't go above 35. Sorry.
The lighter clutch weights of the grizzly will not change the top speed it only changes the upshift.
Same top speed on my 19' (rev limiter @ 63mph) but it gets there quite a bit faster with 20g Pre-16' weights installed on mine. Went from getting beat off the line but slowly catching a Can-am 570 to flat out walking away! The Kodiak is giving up 4-5hp to the wheels compared to a Grizzly since the 30g weights are holding the engine back about 1000rpm lower up to 50mph.
@@coloradokodiak7009if you didn’t plan on going over 35mph you could have easily went with the 450 Kodiak mine tops out at 53-55mph. The 700 might be over kill for your use but nice machine.
@@ETXWheelsinMotion Thanks for the advice. I got the 700 more for the big hills than the top speed. I can climb almost anything in high gear.
Should have got a grizzly in Colorado. Only Alaskan people can ride Kodiak. Lol
Wow I am Alaskan and ride a Kodiak
@@447Film it's a joke as Kodiak bears aren't in Colorado, but grizzlies are. Lol.
@@thecasualatvguy617 I see
My brute force 750i is instantaneous throttle response. Blows my Kodiaks away. Its quieter, quicker, faster, and much better ride. But the Kodiaks do sip gas compared to the brute. I thought the Kodiaks would perform better with the lighter clutch, definite improvement but tough to compare against my Brute.
I like the Brute Force too. Since I haven't ridden anything more powerful than the Kodiak 700 I don't feel like it's lacking anything. It's been a great machine!
I have a 2017 Kodiak with a tuner and tip, I easily leave a friends 2017 BF 750
My two buddies have the BF while I have a rancher and foreman. Their bikes are no doubt impressive on power and speed. However, we often can't schedule a ride because one of them is broke down. Always something. Power steering, belt slipping, running excessively rich, won't start. While my boring honda's just fire right up and do every kind of riding I need to do and get me back home. And they are usually below a half tank of gas when I might have lost one bar and the honda still looks full. I have heard the yamaha's are pretty good for reliability and I picked up a 2020 wolverine x2 xtr to play with. Considering a Kodiak or Grizzly in my future but I do prefer the gear trans of the hondas.
1 and 9/16 second delay vs a 2 second delay! Not worth the trouble or expense of changing weights ! Just use low I strand of high to trail ride
I don't regret making the change. For the way I ride on the trails that I ride it was an improvement. I've heard that adding a shim will make an even bigger difference.
I have done the same on my Kodiak 2020 plus a purple spring and the 1.5 shim. I lost 3-5 mph top end but the throttle response and the low speed torque is what we want... Well worth the money in my opinion. The EHS tuner is a great upgrade as well. Post up a video when you add it. Great video by the way. Keep up the good work.
@@enaznhoj Thanks for the compliment! I would like to add a shim as well as work on the fuel and air intake system to get more out of it.
@@coloradokodiak7009I love Colorado. Would love to ride there on the wheeler. Some beautiful country. The shim help the low end more than anything else in my opinion.
@@enaznhoj Let me know if you're ever in Colorado and want to ride.
That thing is a dog lol. My brute would eat that thing.
you will have less power with more weight your clutch will grab at a lower rpm
Hey there got a couple questions. Did you notice any difference between the top speed with the 2 sets of weights ? Also are you on 25’ tires? Thank you
I don't really test my top speed so it didn't make any difference in my case. My tires are 26"