The last time sentinel was an actual good guy no plots no schemes and was actually worthy of the title of PRIME was in the original G1 series but bro got killed
I was actually sad seeing ironhide die like that i closed my eyes everytime i went trough the sentinel pew pew ironhide scene cause ironhides death freaked me out especially his head falling off
Sentinel Zeta Prime was also a Fake Prime in the Aligned Continuity. He was a puppet prime chosen by the quintessons. He had no relation to the dynasty of Primes.
@@Loki-animatesdc2760 Yeah, TF One took a ton of lore elements from the Aligned continuity. (D's Orions friendship, Puppet Ruler Sentinel, Dystopian Cybetronian society, the 13 Primes lore, Starscream's backstory)
The fact that transformer one took some inspiration from the bay verse films like sentinel being bad and a reference to jazz's death in the 2007 transformer film where megatron tears sentinel in half, just further proves how well michael bay's films really revived the transformer franchise, literally in the late 1900's to the early 2000's transformers were about to be left in the dust until michael bay released the first ever live action transformer movie, yet people have the audacity to hate on bay's transformer films and praise the other transformer films such as bumblebee, rotb, and Transformers One and
I understand why they hate bay but I think those peoples need little remainder that even Bayverse is end but bay still in transformers projects sure, he is not the director but he still the producer tf in box office. He in bumblebee, rotb and tf one. They still including him in tf projects and it's proofing that bay is need it
@@ilminurul8964 exactly, I understand the flaws that michael bay had in his transformer movies which I agree such as in rotf the scenes were too focused on the humans, as well as the last knight being an absolute flop because of all the confusion and how the film didn't set thing straight, but hating on micahel bay himself for the films he made is just absurd, if Michael Bay really wanted to stop working on tf movies, he woulda just already stopped after the last knight
@diamondguy-xs4lg also they can't denied that only bay as director managed make tf sequel, 5 films. I meant bumblebee, rotb and tf one have different director. Especially since rotb is bumblebee film sequel yet they have different director
@@ilminurul8964 fr man, wether you hate bay or not, he's managed to make 5 tf films even despite the criticism to the last knight, bay was making shit tons of money from all the transformer films he made, plus since it was a realistic live action he even got to keep some of the cars that were used as props such as bumblebee's camaro in dotm, lockdown's lamborghini, barricade's mustang police car in the 2007 transformer film, as well as soundwave's dotm mercedes car
Bro, Sentinel was dirty ever since his TFA version entered our screens back in 2008. DOTM & One basically demonised him and made him irredeemable, his whole thing is that he was an “elected” Prime in most incarnations whose main responsibility was carrying out the cast system on Cybertron. He was never a true Prime in most versions, what you said about the DOTM incarnation is interesting and really makes you think to be fair.
well all new fan that never watch old cartoon or read comic.. they use to Sentinel Prime be traitor in bayver movie....... - bayver dotm sentinel prime is old cybertronian race teach “Freedom is the right of all sentient beings” and be a mentor for optimus prime and be the betrayal his own teaching. - Sentinel Prime in gen 1 80's cartoon is just autobot leader was carry the matrix get kill by megatron. - Sentinel Prime in idw was select by autobot high council to be a prime , if not mistake and get kill by megatron in the idw megatron origin comic. and other sentinel prime be a asshole.
Imagine being the smartest Prime, the one who was able to create teleportation at a planetary level and ruled an entire species… And then you’re called a phony because your helmet fell off.
When the same helmet model felt from optimus ear that spot was bleeding, the entire thing felt from sentinel's head and there was ZERO bleeding/consequences Sentinel never is a true prime
Red alert have ears sideswipe have ears jazz have ears ultra magnus have antennas shockwave have them too are they prime? No! its just typical design of “robots” in yor logic my dog is prime because of horns looking ears sticking on the side of her head.
You know they always bring up the helmet coming off, but I thought he got scalped. It's not the most violent thing we see that iteration of Optimus do. Also as a aside I don't mind that Optimus version of Optimus, mainly because the prequel comic we had at the time said this was a hard reboot were they were in tribal warfare before Megatron got in contact with the fallen.
Well, still consider dotm sentinel as a real prime, and I hope that future continuitis, will make him mire like a fallen hero, than what we saw in transformers one.
he was a prime tho, he was born one, also the helmet argument doesnt work because it transformed before he kills ironhide, like optimus, showing its part of him, primes are also born in the bayverse, not made
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that Bayverse still has the normal "ascending to Prime-hood" thing that every other continuity has. The way Prime talks about his background with Megatron throughout the movies makes it seem like he definitely was not born as a Prime straight up, or it kinda throws into question how he and Megatron "were brothers once" and the story behind that. But it's never really explained in the movies, it's just kinda "oh yea war happened" and the offhanded "We were brothers once" remark during their fight together.
The matrix idea is very flawed, it responded to the Fallen, a pure evil being. Sentinel was a fallen hero and he had a noble cause in mind, you need the virtues of a leader to wield it. Sentinel definitely had it, he made the hard decision to put their differences aside and join with the decepticons to help fix their home. Why he didn't expect it really is just as simple as he wasn't their leader anymore therefore he didn't need it.
When you really stop to think about it, you could argue that the Fallen had a noble cause in mind also. Rememeber when it was revealed in AOE that the Earth was actually Unicron? It's very possible that Fallen knew this and wanted to rid the Universe of Cybertron's most destructive enemy.
@jasonvazquez8652 Unfortunately no, he just hated humans that much. Also the idea of unicron didn't come till tlk. And that idea was made on the spot so way back in 2009 it wouldn't be possible for the Fallen to know
Jazz and Ironhide have antennas too. Horns are not some Prime crown. Even ultra magnus he never was in bayverse but have theese things too and he is not prime. Are primes banned for wearing helmets???? Who cares if optimus or sentinel wears helmets? Itd not about how they look but who they are in their sparks! Sentinel in Bayverse wasnt always evil The war changed him. He wanted to rebuild his planet.
“SENTINEL! Is no Prime.”
-Alpha Trion
Even though we expected nothing less from Sentinel, that line was delivered perfectly!
The last time sentinel was an actual good guy no plots no schemes and was actually worthy of the title of PRIME was in the original G1 series but bro got killed
I agree with you
But that was a recon, he could be any of the prime, his colour happen to match
I was actually sad seeing ironhide die like that i closed my eyes everytime i went trough the sentinel pew pew ironhide scene cause ironhides death freaked me out especially his head falling off
The Primes when they see Sentinel in the all spark: "You were never one of us, you are nothing but a userper a false idol"
''Enough cock rating, time for the durahility test.''
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Sentinel Zeta Prime was also a Fake Prime in the Aligned Continuity. He was a puppet prime chosen by the quintessons. He had no relation to the dynasty of Primes.
In the Aligned continuity Sentinel was actually a puppet ruler chosen by the corrupt Senate to my knowledge.
Wait really?
@@Loki-animatesdc2760 Yeah, TF One took a ton of lore elements from the Aligned continuity. (D's Orions friendship, Puppet Ruler Sentinel, Dystopian Cybetronian society, the 13 Primes lore, Starscream's backstory)
@@pepita2437 there is also a page on Exodus where Sentinel told Alpha Trion he doesn't need old timers like him and was sent to the Hall of Records.
I thought he was chosen by the Cybertronian High Council, and had pretty much no interactions with the Quintessons?
The fact that transformer one took some inspiration from the bay verse films like sentinel being bad and a reference to jazz's death in the 2007 transformer film where megatron tears sentinel in half, just further proves how well michael bay's films really revived the transformer franchise, literally in the late 1900's to the early 2000's transformers were about to be left in the dust until michael bay released the first ever live action transformer movie, yet people have the audacity to hate on bay's transformer films and praise the other transformer films such as bumblebee, rotb, and Transformers One and
Sentinel was an asshole even in Transformers Animated too.
I understand why they hate bay but I think those peoples need little remainder that even Bayverse is end but bay still in transformers projects sure, he is not the director but he still the producer tf in box office.
He in bumblebee, rotb and tf one. They still including him in tf projects and it's proofing that bay is need it
@@ilminurul8964 exactly, I understand the flaws that michael bay had in his transformer movies which I agree such as in rotf the scenes were too focused on the humans, as well as the last knight being an absolute flop because of all the confusion and how the film didn't set thing straight, but hating on micahel bay himself for the films he made is just absurd, if Michael Bay really wanted to stop working on tf movies, he woulda just already stopped after the last knight
@diamondguy-xs4lg also they can't denied that only bay as director managed make tf sequel, 5 films.
I meant bumblebee, rotb and tf one have different director. Especially since rotb is bumblebee film sequel yet they have different director
@@ilminurul8964 fr man, wether you hate bay or not, he's managed to make 5 tf films even despite the criticism to the last knight, bay was making shit tons of money from all the transformer films he made, plus since it was a realistic live action he even got to keep some of the cars that were used as props such as bumblebee's camaro in dotm, lockdown's lamborghini, barricade's mustang police car in the 2007 transformer film, as well as soundwave's dotm mercedes car
Bro, Sentinel was dirty ever since his TFA version entered our screens back in 2008. DOTM & One basically demonised him and made him irredeemable, his whole thing is that he was an “elected” Prime in most incarnations whose main responsibility was carrying out the cast system on Cybertron. He was never a true Prime in most versions, what you said about the DOTM incarnation is interesting and really makes you think to be fair.
"Only a prime can kill a prime" -the fallen
Dark of the moon:
Megatron shoots sentinels helmet off, and almost killing him
well all new fan that never watch old cartoon or read comic.. they use to Sentinel Prime be traitor in bayver movie.......
- bayver dotm sentinel prime is old cybertronian race teach “Freedom is the right of all sentient beings” and be a mentor for optimus prime and be the betrayal his own teaching.
- Sentinel Prime in gen 1 80's cartoon is just autobot leader was carry the matrix get kill by megatron.
- Sentinel Prime in idw was select by autobot high council to be a prime , if not mistake and get kill by megatron in the idw megatron origin comic.
and other sentinel prime be a asshole.
Imagine being the smartest Prime, the one who was able to create teleportation at a planetary level and ruled an entire species…
And then you’re called a phony because your helmet fell off.
Except from g1, I think that Sentinel Prime is an asshole in every continuity not just tf1 and bayverse
Sentinel does not wear helmet. He also was damaged
When the same helmet model felt from optimus ear that spot was bleeding, the entire thing felt from sentinel's head and there was ZERO bleeding/consequences
Sentinel never is a true prime
Red alert have ears
sideswipe have ears
jazz have ears
ultra magnus have antennas
shockwave have them too
are they prime? No!
its just typical design of “robots”
in yor logic my dog is prime because of horns looking ears sticking on the side of her head.
You know they always bring up the helmet coming off, but I thought he got scalped. It's not the most violent thing we see that iteration of Optimus do. Also as a aside I don't mind that Optimus version of Optimus, mainly because the prequel comic we had at the time said this was a hard reboot were they were in tribal warfare before Megatron got in contact with the fallen.
Well, still consider dotm sentinel as a real prime, and I hope that future continuitis, will make him mire like a fallen hero, than what we saw in transformers one.
he was a prime tho, he was born one, also the helmet argument doesnt work because it transformed before he kills ironhide, like optimus, showing its part of him, primes are also born in the bayverse, not made
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that Bayverse still has the normal "ascending to Prime-hood" thing that every other continuity has. The way Prime talks about his background with Megatron throughout the movies makes it seem like he definitely was not born as a Prime straight up, or it kinda throws into question how he and Megatron "were brothers once" and the story behind that. But it's never really explained in the movies, it's just kinda "oh yea war happened" and the offhanded "We were brothers once" remark during their fight together.
In the tie in comics for the bayverse im pretty sure its stated sentinel is a real prime decended from primus and not the dynasty of primes
Sentinel Prime; More like Sentinel 'Crime'
theres no way sentinel gets back, can't you see in transformer one,
sentinel get killed by D-16
I never said he's coming back. I just mean if they have more TF movies in new continuities
Fun fact: DotM Sentinel Prime’s conceptual name was Ultra Magnus with his gold and silver color scheme, that was shown in the teaser trailer!
The matrix idea is very flawed, it responded to the Fallen, a pure evil being. Sentinel was a fallen hero and he had a noble cause in mind, you need the virtues of a leader to wield it. Sentinel definitely had it, he made the hard decision to put their differences aside and join with the decepticons to help fix their home. Why he didn't expect it really is just as simple as he wasn't their leader anymore therefore he didn't need it.
When you really stop to think about it, you could argue that the Fallen had a noble cause in mind also. Rememeber when it was revealed in AOE that the Earth was actually Unicron? It's very possible that Fallen knew this and wanted to rid the Universe of Cybertron's most destructive enemy.
@jasonvazquez8652 Unfortunately no, he just hated humans that much. Also the idea of unicron didn't come till tlk. And that idea was made on the spot so way back in 2009 it wouldn't be possible for the Fallen to know
Jazz and Ironhide have antennas too. Horns are not some Prime crown. Even ultra magnus he never was in bayverse but have theese things too and he is not prime.
Are primes banned for wearing helmets????
Who cares if optimus or sentinel wears helmets? Itd not about how they look but who they are in their sparks! Sentinel in Bayverse wasnt always evil The war changed him. He wanted to rebuild his planet.
Excellent theory.
Do you know that antennas have almost every second transformer?
I prefer G1 Sentinel Prime, good guy and predecessor to Optimus Prime killed by Megatron. And he and Zeta Prime are two different characters.
Sentinel is only a prime in name.
Sentinel was set up as false prime
Since IDW, Animated, fall of Cybertron
Another false prime candidate was Nova and Zeta
Sentinal would be the one u dont want around the kids
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