Anyone recall that iconic duel Samdadude had as Ne Zha. It was from years ago. Sam had to put everything into that match and said, "This is it," before winning under the enemy phoenix. I believe it was against Hercules.
“Graphics aren’t gameplay”. Mate, in a game like smite in which being able to see your enemy’s abilities and react to them, graphics are gameplay. Smite 2 has WAY too much bloom. They have more power to work with but (and I hate quoting Jurassic park here), they worries more about whether or not they could rather than whether or not they should. The game is so distracting and there is so much bs on the screen when a big fight happens that for more casual players, keeping up with what’s going on in a fight is just not fun. Smite 1, for all its faults, is clear and easy to understand, smite 2 is too much of everything, and sometimes less is indeed more. And the models themselves aren’t good enough to warrant all the bs on screen
In a titan talk with the art director they literally say they fucked up with readability and were working on it. Maybe dont condemn something while its in its infancy?
So ur basically just saying Smite 2 is more complex and you haven’t played it enough to understand all the new items and abilities that are happening. Whereas is Smite 1 you played enough to understand everything that is used in a fight.
@ it’s not that I don’t understand the items and abilities. They’re not different at all from smite 1, just added effects or some reworks here and there. What I’m saying is that the bloom, or the graphics around each ability, are sometimes so excessive that they muddy up any team fight. At this point it became more of me hearing the abilities and reacting rather than looking, since the whole screen sometimes becomes a rainbow of colors and effects. It’s not fun in the slightest. And I’m not the only one that thinks like this. It is almost like sun wu kongs ninja-like skin. His 3 is muddled up in that skin since he basically has the same animation for any stance, and you can only react based on its speed and sound. Smite 2 went overboard on bloom when they should have kept them the same or close to the ones in smite 1. Like what does increasing the size of fenrirs claws and the slash effects in his 3 add other than making it maybe look “cooler” or more “deadly”. Multiply that by 10 abilities going off at the same time with stupidly overworked effects and lights and the whole fight becomes a mess. Again, I know the items and abilities. Doesn’t make a difference when I can’t make out anything in the middle of a fight because my screen is a mixture of effects and colors
@ also, smite 2 is not that complex. Itemization is still pretty much the same just 1 good useful item here or there, or added effects for some tiers. If anything, the most difficult part might be keeping track of what item effects to activate and when, but otherwise the game is easy to understand. Seems like you read my original comment and took in nothing of what I said
Gods in Smite 2 arent magical and physical😂. They either deal physical or magical dmg like Smite 1 BUT abilities and dmg will scale with either intelligence or strenght. You really all need to differenciate that as even if my ability scale with Intelligence DOESNT MEAN YOU NEED MAGICAL DEFENSES. I'm still physical but I built intelligence
The fact that I have to learn new things for Smite 2 is NOT what's stopping me from playing it. My friends and I are all learning Deadlock right now, which is neither easy nor nostalgic. Our problem with Smite 2 is that it isn't what the devs promised: Smite 1 but better with new mechanics that only UE5 can deliver. Instead of just getting the game up and running, they are experimenting with a decade worth of balance. Not every god and item needs a rework. Look at sequels like the Street Fighter series. I can pick up SF6 right now and play Ryu/Ken/Zangief almost the same way I did in SF2. The difference is that there were large scale mechanical changes between the games (introduction of supers, alpha counters, drive rush, parry, etc.). So Smite 2 right now is just a worse balanced Smite 1 with worse content IMO. Some characters just feel worse, not better. New abilities could have been in Smite 1. It just doesn't make sense as a sequel and feels more like a rerelease or something.
"Not every god and item needs a rework" But they didn't rework every god and item. Some items are straight up pulls from S1, and Baron and Yemoja are 1 to 1 copies from Smite because of that very same philosophy you said. There's way more QoL changes to gods in Smite 2 than smite, and the mechanical changes aren't even that much bigger. There are some abilities I'd agree with that feel jank or unfamiliar like Chaac 2, but for the most part Smite 2 in its current iteration feels better than Smite.
@@b3stnoobever they could have made the same QoL changes in Smite 1. There's nothing in Smite 2 that feels new to me. For instance, Danza clones are like Morgan Le Fay clones and Hecate ult is like Maui 2. So the game just feels incomplete and unnecessary. If they're going to make an entire new game, there should be more to it than small god changes and a pointless juggling of the item system to cater to the LoL crowd. I'm really not sure if there's anything in Smite 2 that they couldn't have just done in a big patch for Smite 1.
@@sinisterniik Danza clones are nothing like MLF clones lol. Firstly they're not 1 hits, and secondly their conditions of use are completely different and Danza can have a literal army that also interacts with structures differently. Hecate ult is more like an inverse horus ult if anything. Your argument of they're just adding small changes doesn't really make sense when you take into consideration that there were drastic changes to start during the alpha weeks which were met with a lot of criticism. They've moved more toward a middle ground between S1 and their original take of S2 and are now focused on populating the game with gods to play due to player complaints of not having enough gods fast enough. The entire new game they can make comes after that need is met. And no, UE3 would not be able to support Smite 1 in the long term. Doomers saying S2 is too buggy in its Alpha state seems to forget how buggy S1 is in its live state even to this day. Many a time have there been game breaking bugs/exploits that made the game unplayable in the past and some were very recent. Hell, in Season 10 Fineokay was completely invisible during a live SPL match. Gods were removed until the bug was fixed, sometimes an entire game mode was shut down until fixed. The engine is so old even during the early years of Smite we were talking about how poorly optimized the game was. S2 in its current iteration is a smoother experience than Smite is. Low key if the community stopped bitching at every little thing about the game and contradicting themselves the game will probably gain traction. You gotta stop just putting the entire game down and enjoy it for what it is, and if you do find genuine problems with it then report it and have hirez fix it. Try to actually make the game better instead of writing it off over superficial reasons. It's a fun game and as it stands now you're all the only ones holding it back honestly.
@@b3stnoobever yeah, I just strongly disagree with what you're saying. "Low key if the community stopped bitching at every little thing about the game and contradicting themselves the game will probably gain traction. You gotta stop just putting the entire game down and enjoy it for what it is" I'm not contradicting myself, and I absolutely do not have to enjoy Smite 2 for what it is. I am literally choosing to play other games instead. "you're all the only ones holding it back honestly." I am not the reason Smite 2 isn't successful, and the idea that I am is utterly ridiculous.
@@sinisterniik It most definitely is a contradiction. If the community shares the complaint of Smite 2 "being too different" in the beginning to start only to then complain about it "not being different enough why even bother making a new game," how is that not a contradiction? Also I like how I said "you're all" as in addressing the community and you took it as a personal just you. The community is holding it back because none of you can be pleased. The more Hirez has listened to community feedback the more the community still want to find things to complain about. Also Smite 2 isn't exactly failing like you think it is. Console takes a lot of the player base of smite and we don't have Smite 2's console player count atm. In comparison Deadlock player base is tied solely to steam as the steam deck doesn't support it. Deadlock has 20-40k daily concurrent players as of rn with a peak of 171k. That's a 76.6% drop in concurrent players at its peak and are still steadily declining. Smite 2 steam numbers have also declined the same but has stagnated around the 2k mark from 12k which is about an 85% decrease. But again console makes up for a lot of if not most of Smite's player base.
Having kids is amazing at least for the first one. The no sleep thing sucks but honestly that’s only for the first few weeks… there’s no escape. You don’t sleep at night or during the day. You just don’t sleep. But after they hit 2 then 3. You’re just having so much fun with them. The first year is trash tho. 😂😂😂😂 I hate the feeding stuff when they’re off the breast milk phase. It sucks. They never want to eat. But now that my oldest is 3…. Man…. He understands everything. He’s like a normal person now. It’s so fun because they’ll wrestle and play and he loves to mow and play basketball on my ball court outside. He loves to ride his 4wheeler. He’s Just fun right now. I’d never want to not have had these memories. 100% worth. Just 1 tho. That second one is BRUTAL! But my 3 y/o is in my arms right now sleeping and it’s the best feeling ever. I love him the most. I could’ve waited 1,000 years and he would’ve been worth every second. He’s my everything. That’s how your first will feel too. There’s something about it.
I'll just give my 2 cents on smite 2 Currently i think the game is just alright, but not good enough for me to invest a bunch of time into. That's fine, the game is in alpha, it's to be expected that the game is far from finished and given its early stage of development it's doing exceptionally well. That being said, i really just don't like the str/int system and that gods are divided in 3 categories based on how well they scale with these stats. I love being able to build every item on every god, but if my guy doesn't utilize half of the items because they only have str instead of int then what's the point? It kind of just feels like the current magical/physical power system, except you're not physically restricted from buying the "wrong" items. To me, it feels bad on pure str/int gods because they don't utilize half of these damage stats, and it feels unfair compared to hybrid gods who don't care as much and get the freedom to build anything. I don't think this raises the skill ceiling, its just restrictions and trivia to learn which gods benefit from which stats how much. That's not skill, its memorization. I think the system should either be simplified or tweaked. Either merge str/int into a singular power stat like smite 1 beta had, which is the simple option, or rework int to be less of a damage stat and more of a utility stat. I think it would be very cool if int could enhance your abilities in ways other than damage. Imagine getting a bunch of int to make your abilities LARGER or to increase their range. Maybe int could speed up animation time a little, or increase debuff/buff durations. Some abiltities could even get additional charges based on how much int you got. Str would be the goto damage stat, but you get int to change the behavior of your abilities. That would be a lot more engaging i think
I agree, it's in his best interest for Smite 2 to be successful. There's streamers that may dislike a new season in a game but keeping their community positive can be very important
I love Sam, but the willful ignorance he has when it comes to Smite 2 is insane. The man completely rejects any criticism towards the game that, by all right and purposes, is a buggy, unbalanced, unfinished mess. Maybe it's because the game is pretty much his livelihood, but his inability to accept the many, _many_ faults of it is so frustrating. I want Smite 2 to be amazing, but it's never gonna be if guys like him keep pretending its perfect the way it is. Luckily, Hi-Rez seems very aware of how lacking the game is in its current state. The fact that they put all the aesthetic stuff on hold until they get a more complete God roster and iron out all the bugs and inconsistencies earned them a lot of good faith in my book. I'm definitely keeping up with its progress, but it clearly has a long way to go.
Yup, its in alpha for a reason. Alpha means BARE MINIMUM, as in *you are going to play an unbalanced, unfinished, buggy mess purely so that we can develop better and faster*, and people tend to forget that. Still, given it's an alpha, its very impressive how good the game is in its current early stage
21:56 don’t worry Sam. I’ll try not to watch it so it doesn’t get canceled. I stg they look at the shows I’m watching to decide what to cancel. Not dead yet. How I met your father. Two shows I just checked yesterday because they should’ve had a new season and both canceled. They were so funny that I still laugh when I think back on scenes. Stg they’re looking at the shows I love and just knocking those out. Guaranteed if I loved supacell or whatever the show is. It’d not get another season whatever season they’re on.
On my 30th birthday, I didn't feel any differenent. My back had already been hurting for 9 years because i broke it when i was 21 in the marine corps. But 35th, I definitely felt that!!! Also the neith cosplay joke had me rolling 😂
2:17 is not that I have anything against smite2 it’s just the fact that I already have smite1, like if I want to play smite im gonna play the game me and my friends already have and play, I already have smite why would I spend money on pretty much the exact same game with slightly different visuals that none of my friends are playing.
I'm definitely hesitant to switch to smite 2. Learning smite 2 is going to be daunting, it's harder to see wtf is happening in smite 2, I don't want to lose my worshippers, and it's a completely different game with the item system. I'm sure I'll switch eventually, at some point my friend group is gonna make the switch. but until then it's smite 1 baby! on that patch 9.5 topic: I freaking love that update! I specifically play warrior because a long fight is so much more fun than the short ones. I want there to be a fight, not just whoever hit ability or basic one shots and it's over.
My Problem with Smite 2 is, that they are leaning or copy League although they had their own unique game. Especially because the console Players had a good Moba too but now with the new item System and Shopping Windows it feels not good. Why put all that effort and work in a new game instead of making Smite 1 great again? New is not always better like overwatch 2 impressively has proven. The scam with the Gems is the thing that killed my interest. Nevertheless i wish all Gamers fun at Smite 2, especially you Sam. I will watch you anyway 😅
Glad you're back on here. Missed you last week. My 2 cents. Just because Hi Rez made a 2nd Smite, doesn't mean I have to like the game. No matter how much the streamers want to stress "it's the future". Games fail. To me Smite 2 is a fail. I guess I need to highlight TO ME. It's called an opinion and mine may differ from yours. It's OK. It's a free country. I respect your right to have a different opinion.
Give it time, Smite 2 from first alpha test to now is soooo different, I imagine the final product or even when Beta tests begin that it will be a different product.
The game isn’t fully released, isn’t free, isn’t properly balanced yet, and is missing quite a lot of smite 1 features. It is just being ignorant to make the assumption that it is a fail as of now
The engine on smite 1 is dated and it’s noticed. I been bouncing from game to game and playing smite one feels like playing a ps2 game compared to a ps4 games
My opinion smite 2 changes arent for the better, complex doesnt mean better. More options arent always better. Especially in team play. The skins not being there is a bit neg to me. I invested time and money into smite. Smite 2 isnt at a point where i enjoy playing it. Personal magic based using magic and physical using physical makes more sense to me.
See my problem with smite 2 is, the first game I spend almost a decade on, have all my skins and medals, memories and going into smite 2 basically starting from scratch ist just ass to me. Ofc it would be a lot of work to transfer EVERYTHING but why not just overdo smite 1? + the gameplay shown so far looks like smite alpha in 2011.
6:20 I think you got it wrong sam. The intelligence and strength do add depth. But items don’t have magical specific attributes or physical attributes. Sol is a prime example of a god that uses strength builds but she’s still does magical damage. Magic defense items still mitigate her damage.
i cant wait for you to start playing smite 2 duel. I found watching you playing smite 1 duel made me understand and learn gameplay knowledge/builds at a slower but way more fun pace. which made try different gods/builds from both yours and mine knowledge.
okay i honestly think now that the dust has settled a little on smite 2 that they needed to make something more of a spiritual successor to smite 1 rather than a direct sequel, but thenn again i can understand the apprehension after the concord fiasco
Smite 2 has not proven its need for existence. The graphics are barely better (the main selling point for the marketing of it and UE5 in general) and the store changes don't really matter because they automate your buys for you so you don't even have to learn anything new. The changes to the gods are mainly there to tick a box, not only to mention you are loosing a lot of content you already paid for and the mtx in the new one seem predatory even at this moment. I think Sam is generally excited for it because he wants change for changes' sake. It seems to me that if he detaches from that notion, he'll see the lack of value the sequel provides.
Maybe he doesn't like it either, but why would he bad mouth hi rez when they are the reason he can do this? I'm not saying it is true, just a thought. 😊
I wont say that smite 2 is needed but if they dont want to make smite 2 they have to fix smite 1, it has A LOT of issues, what they did in s10 is close to "fixing it" but they need to change, and they might have had issues with dealing with UE3 since its so old, just think about how restricting it can be, they had to upgrade the engine, so if they wanted to keep smite 1 then they would've made the "Smite 2.0 update" where they change half the game
Damn people sure are harsh, I like smite 2 and I’m sure Sam does too. Plenty of streamers have swapped over to only playing smite 2 Also saying the shop changes don’t matter bc autobuy is in the game is so funny. Say you only watch the game without saying you only watch the game
@@chacharealsmooth941 humm the fact that UE3 prevented a LOT of mecanics to be release and kept development bad as most hard coding couldnt be realised of Smite 1 UE3. Automated store is not used by 99% of Smite playerbase. Smite 2 in time will bring Smite 1 to a much better state than Smite 1
It's crazy to me that people are trying to directly compare an alpha to a game in its 11th season. Of course smite one is more polished. It probably will be well into the first, maybe even second season. I really like smite 2 so far. I like how receptive they have been to the community. I think they just bought smite another 10 years which in my optinion is the real challenge. Keeping the game similar enough while continuing to keep things fresh.
Glad to see you recovered from yesterday's unfortunate series of events lol I'm not into how smite 2 looks or plays currently and the god pool doesn't interest me so I'll see it much later
I feel like you’re right Sam. A lot of people might not like the new changes but like in every video game it’s just going to be a new generation of players that will adapt to it kinda like Fortnite you had people that were the goat but as the game progressed and change happened new players became the goat and it’s just about adapting to it but it’s always going to be easier said than done
The playbase is to small for it to do anything but kill bith games smite has less then 30 players at any given time. The new game will fracture that further and they will both end forever
One thing that will be weird is duel due to the str and magic scaling with building def. Making me believe those gods that build both will slightly outperform. I personally don’t play smite 2 because the lag is worse compared to smite 1 lag lol. I hate living in an apartment with shared WiFi.
Reading these comments and my only 2 cents is that we should play games to have fun, or else be doing something productive w our lives. What’s fun to everyone is different, so play whichever one you want. I prefer smite 1 bc of the reasons Sam said. Don’t wanna relearn a hard ass game and my skins as of yet. When 2 gets better I’ll come over, but I’m in no rush.
My friends and I would LOVE to get back into smite but we spent hundreds of dollars on smite on skins we love and we do not want to have to do that again. We played everyday of our lives until we got PCs and and the skins didn’t carry over. It’s not like we don’t want to spend more money, it’s just feels weird for some reason having all our favorite options unavailable
Honestly I hated smite 2 the first like ten times I played it (been playing smite 1 for like 8 years maybe more) after I started relearning how to build and what characters are broken I started having fun with it and been playing it pretty much daily. Like tank Ra is hilariously fun. Tanks run that game btw.
I know loads of Dans, i'm British tho. I can think of like 6 guys called Dan that i actually know and even more that i know of. Also i don't think Karen as a name will die, naming your kid Karen because you like the name and don't care what these silly people think is a super Karen thing to do/say, whilst simultaneously sticking her nose in everyone elses business like it matters... If you know what i mean😂
IMO, Smite 1 & 2 are analogous to Destiny 1 & 2, where instead of fixing the base game, they just said eff it, here's a new one. The problem is Smite 2 is not light-years better than Smite 1. It's basically a graphics update. The main problems: matchmaking, the competitive scene, game modes, GOD BALANCE, ITEM BALANCE, are not fixed at a fundamental level. I've been playing Smite 1 since season 1 (and watching you before you had a camera or good mic...and sounded completely different lol) and stopped playing season 9. I'm not coming back. I can't imagine Smite 2 captures more players than they had via Smite 1. I predict the game doesn't last long past Alpha/Beta stages. Just my two cents.
Smite 2 is a Paragon copy... adding grass, ruining the build system, and active item shows they can't be original and have totally given up on their own identity. It's more like Paragon or league of legends
I’m rooting for smite 2. At first I was a hater and not interested. Hi-Rez made mistake after mistake with smite 2, but even after all those mistakes the game feels great imo. The devs are working harder and faster than ever before (thanks to UE5) and you can bet on it that the official release will be a banger. Joust, duel, assault, 50 ish gods, free to play, new main menu, ui, and a burst of new players will turn so many heads. The only thing left is to be kinda sad about smite 1
Ne Zha is pretty okay in duel. At the very least he's quite memorable, unlike discordia. Day 2 of reminding people about the most forgettable god in the game
My problem with Smite 2 lvl 72 with 353hr 314 games played between ranked and casual is I'm always on the team that likes to die multiple times before 5min and get so far behind and refuse to admit the game is lost and wasn't 30 to 40min losing the game. Just saying. I don't get this in Smite 1 so it comes down too a matchmaking issue balance.
Smite 2 has improved the last few weeks. But they should’ve released it while still going strong on smite 1. Pro league should’ve went on 1 last year and next year when they’re out of alpha the release would been better received
Smite2 will be judged by the same standards as all the Moba that copied OGSmite style, all of them crashed and burned because they're not original, Smite2 is the exact same thing. Smite has a classic gaming look, which fits the gameplay, the moment they took it to next gen, they'll be judged so harshly on looks and gameplay they won't be able to keep up, it's probably going to go the same path as paragon. Smite is easy on the eyes, so people can watch conquest matches without concentrating too much, Smite2 has a lot going on, as good as it looks to play, it's a mess to watch.
I’ve finally reached a point where I have more fun playing smite 2 than smite 1, I have it several chances Over the course of smite 2’s lifespan and it’s just not gotten to the point of being better for me
See I’m the opposite I loved valorant because it’s more vibrant I also love that it’s somewhat dependent on skill when it comes to agent ability usage and a aim but aim is also RNG which is annoying
I just don't like CURRENT Smite 2 because the Gods they are adding are utter boring to me (my mains have yet to appear in any list of characters coming soon) maybe in a future with more characters I'll try it out some more, played some games but some of the characters choices are too safe for me to care about
I play on ps4, just this is enough for me to dislike smite 2, since smite 2 wont be able for ps4 and Im from brazil and dont really want to sell any organ to buy an ps5, and the fact I spent a lot in smite for skins and etc, all this but skins wont transfer to smite 2 🤡 and obviously they wont work much on smite because all attention will go for smite 2, probably regular smite server will fall in some time, so all the time i spent, all the money i spent, everything i spent on smite will be gone 😀😄😃😁😆🥳🥳🥳🥳💓💓💗💖💘💞💝💕💫💫💫👏👏👏💃💃💃
Anyone recall that iconic duel Samdadude had as Ne Zha. It was from years ago. Sam had to put everything into that match and said, "This is it," before winning under the enemy phoenix. I believe it was against Hercules.
insane memory brother
@@mordafinnI wish it was good enough to help me find this video. I think it even got featured in one of his montages.
“Graphics aren’t gameplay”. Mate, in a game like smite in which being able to see your enemy’s abilities and react to them, graphics are gameplay. Smite 2 has WAY too much bloom. They have more power to work with but (and I hate quoting Jurassic park here), they worries more about whether or not they could rather than whether or not they should. The game is so distracting and there is so much bs on the screen when a big fight happens that for more casual players, keeping up with what’s going on in a fight is just not fun. Smite 1, for all its faults, is clear and easy to understand, smite 2 is too much of everything, and sometimes less is indeed more. And the models themselves aren’t good enough to warrant all the bs on screen
Say that when a ninja turtle ganks your lane and you arent sure what god you are looking at
In a titan talk with the art director they literally say they fucked up with readability and were working on it. Maybe dont condemn something while its in its infancy?
So ur basically just saying Smite 2 is more complex and you haven’t played it enough to understand all the new items and abilities that are happening. Whereas is Smite 1 you played enough to understand everything that is used in a fight.
@ it’s not that I don’t understand the items and abilities. They’re not different at all from smite 1, just added effects or some reworks here and there. What I’m saying is that the bloom, or the graphics around each ability, are sometimes so excessive that they muddy up any team fight. At this point it became more of me hearing the abilities and reacting rather than looking, since the whole screen sometimes becomes a rainbow of colors and effects. It’s not fun in the slightest. And I’m not the only one that thinks like this. It is almost like sun wu kongs ninja-like skin. His 3 is muddled up in that skin since he basically has the same animation for any stance, and you can only react based on its speed and sound. Smite 2 went overboard on bloom when they should have kept them the same or close to the ones in smite 1. Like what does increasing the size of fenrirs claws and the slash effects in his 3 add other than making it maybe look “cooler” or more “deadly”. Multiply that by 10 abilities going off at the same time with stupidly overworked effects and lights and the whole fight becomes a mess. Again, I know the items and abilities. Doesn’t make a difference when I can’t make out anything in the middle of a fight because my screen is a mixture of effects and colors
@ also, smite 2 is not that complex. Itemization is still pretty much the same just 1 good useful item here or there, or added effects for some tiers. If anything, the most difficult part might be keeping track of what item effects to activate and when, but otherwise the game is easy to understand. Seems like you read my original comment and took in nothing of what I said
Gods in Smite 2 arent magical and physical😂. They either deal physical or magical dmg like Smite 1 BUT abilities and dmg will scale with either intelligence or strenght. You really all need to differenciate that as even if my ability scale with Intelligence DOESNT MEAN YOU NEED MAGICAL DEFENSES. I'm still physical but I built intelligence
It’s exactly how league does it
Yeah that comment means they just dont understand the game. I’m super surprise Sam didn’t correct him
The fact that I have to learn new things for Smite 2 is NOT what's stopping me from playing it. My friends and I are all learning Deadlock right now, which is neither easy nor nostalgic. Our problem with Smite 2 is that it isn't what the devs promised: Smite 1 but better with new mechanics that only UE5 can deliver. Instead of just getting the game up and running, they are experimenting with a decade worth of balance. Not every god and item needs a rework. Look at sequels like the Street Fighter series. I can pick up SF6 right now and play Ryu/Ken/Zangief almost the same way I did in SF2. The difference is that there were large scale mechanical changes between the games (introduction of supers, alpha counters, drive rush, parry, etc.). So Smite 2 right now is just a worse balanced Smite 1 with worse content IMO. Some characters just feel worse, not better. New abilities could have been in Smite 1. It just doesn't make sense as a sequel and feels more like a rerelease or something.
"Not every god and item needs a rework" But they didn't rework every god and item. Some items are straight up pulls from S1, and Baron and Yemoja are 1 to 1 copies from Smite because of that very same philosophy you said. There's way more QoL changes to gods in Smite 2 than smite, and the mechanical changes aren't even that much bigger. There are some abilities I'd agree with that feel jank or unfamiliar like Chaac 2, but for the most part Smite 2 in its current iteration feels better than Smite.
@@b3stnoobever they could have made the same QoL changes in Smite 1. There's nothing in Smite 2 that feels new to me. For instance, Danza clones are like Morgan Le Fay clones and Hecate ult is like Maui 2. So the game just feels incomplete and unnecessary. If they're going to make an entire new game, there should be more to it than small god changes and a pointless juggling of the item system to cater to the LoL crowd. I'm really not sure if there's anything in Smite 2 that they couldn't have just done in a big patch for Smite 1.
@@sinisterniik Danza clones are nothing like MLF clones lol. Firstly they're not 1 hits, and secondly their conditions of use are completely different and Danza can have a literal army that also interacts with structures differently. Hecate ult is more like an inverse horus ult if anything.
Your argument of they're just adding small changes doesn't really make sense when you take into consideration that there were drastic changes to start during the alpha weeks which were met with a lot of criticism. They've moved more toward a middle ground between S1 and their original take of S2 and are now focused on populating the game with gods to play due to player complaints of not having enough gods fast enough. The entire new game they can make comes after that need is met. And no, UE3 would not be able to support Smite 1 in the long term. Doomers saying S2 is too buggy in its Alpha state seems to forget how buggy S1 is in its live state even to this day. Many a time have there been game breaking bugs/exploits that made the game unplayable in the past and some were very recent. Hell, in Season 10 Fineokay was completely invisible during a live SPL match. Gods were removed until the bug was fixed, sometimes an entire game mode was shut down until fixed. The engine is so old even during the early years of Smite we were talking about how poorly optimized the game was. S2 in its current iteration is a smoother experience than Smite is.
Low key if the community stopped bitching at every little thing about the game and contradicting themselves the game will probably gain traction. You gotta stop just putting the entire game down and enjoy it for what it is, and if you do find genuine problems with it then report it and have hirez fix it. Try to actually make the game better instead of writing it off over superficial reasons. It's a fun game and as it stands now you're all the only ones holding it back honestly.
@@b3stnoobever yeah, I just strongly disagree with what you're saying.
"Low key if the community stopped bitching at every little thing about the game and contradicting themselves the game will probably gain traction. You gotta stop just putting the entire game down and enjoy it for what it is"
I'm not contradicting myself, and I absolutely do not have to enjoy Smite 2 for what it is. I am literally choosing to play other games instead.
"you're all the only ones holding it back honestly."
I am not the reason Smite 2 isn't successful, and the idea that I am is utterly ridiculous.
@@sinisterniik It most definitely is a contradiction. If the community shares the complaint of Smite 2 "being too different" in the beginning to start only to then complain about it "not being different enough why even bother making a new game," how is that not a contradiction?
Also I like how I said "you're all" as in addressing the community and you took it as a personal just you. The community is holding it back because none of you can be pleased. The more Hirez has listened to community feedback the more the community still want to find things to complain about.
Also Smite 2 isn't exactly failing like you think it is. Console takes a lot of the player base of smite and we don't have Smite 2's console player count atm. In comparison Deadlock player base is tied solely to steam as the steam deck doesn't support it. Deadlock has 20-40k daily concurrent players as of rn with a peak of 171k. That's a 76.6% drop in concurrent players at its peak and are still steadily declining. Smite 2 steam numbers have also declined the same but has stagnated around the 2k mark from 12k which is about an 85% decrease. But again console makes up for a lot of if not most of Smite's player base.
Having kids is amazing at least for the first one. The no sleep thing sucks but honestly that’s only for the first few weeks… there’s no escape. You don’t sleep at night or during the day. You just don’t sleep. But after they hit 2 then 3. You’re just having so much fun with them. The first year is trash tho. 😂😂😂😂 I hate the feeding stuff when they’re off the breast milk phase. It sucks. They never want to eat. But now that my oldest is 3…. Man…. He understands everything. He’s like a normal person now. It’s so fun because they’ll wrestle and play and he loves to mow and play basketball on my ball court outside. He loves to ride his 4wheeler. He’s Just fun right now. I’d never want to not have had these memories. 100% worth. Just 1 tho. That second one is BRUTAL! But my 3 y/o is in my arms right now sleeping and it’s the best feeling ever. I love him the most. I could’ve waited 1,000 years and he would’ve been worth every second. He’s my everything. That’s how your first will feel too. There’s something about it.
I'll just give my 2 cents on smite 2
Currently i think the game is just alright, but not good enough for me to invest a bunch of time into. That's fine, the game is in alpha, it's to be expected that the game is far from finished and given its early stage of development it's doing exceptionally well.
That being said, i really just don't like the str/int system and that gods are divided in 3 categories based on how well they scale with these stats. I love being able to build every item on every god, but if my guy doesn't utilize half of the items because they only have str instead of int then what's the point? It kind of just feels like the current magical/physical power system, except you're not physically restricted from buying the "wrong" items.
To me, it feels bad on pure str/int gods because they don't utilize half of these damage stats, and it feels unfair compared to hybrid gods who don't care as much and get the freedom to build anything.
I don't think this raises the skill ceiling, its just restrictions and trivia to learn which gods benefit from which stats how much. That's not skill, its memorization.
I think the system should either be simplified or tweaked. Either merge str/int into a singular power stat like smite 1 beta had, which is the simple option, or rework int to be less of a damage stat and more of a utility stat.
I think it would be very cool if int could enhance your abilities in ways other than damage. Imagine getting a bunch of int to make your abilities LARGER or to increase their range. Maybe int could speed up animation time a little, or increase debuff/buff durations. Some abiltities could even get additional charges based on how much int you got. Str would be the goto damage stat, but you get int to change the behavior of your abilities. That would be a lot more engaging i think
I agree, it's in his best interest for Smite 2 to be successful. There's streamers that may dislike a new season in a game but keeping their community positive can be very important
As a civic type r owner it is the superior Honda unless you go back to the early 90’s when Honda made the NSX.
I love Sam, but the willful ignorance he has when it comes to Smite 2 is insane. The man completely rejects any criticism towards the game that, by all right and purposes, is a buggy, unbalanced, unfinished mess. Maybe it's because the game is pretty much his livelihood, but his inability to accept the many, _many_ faults of it is so frustrating. I want Smite 2 to be amazing, but it's never gonna be if guys like him keep pretending its perfect the way it is.
Luckily, Hi-Rez seems very aware of how lacking the game is in its current state. The fact that they put all the aesthetic stuff on hold until they get a more complete God roster and iron out all the bugs and inconsistencies earned them a lot of good faith in my book. I'm definitely keeping up with its progress, but it clearly has a long way to go.
Yup, its in alpha for a reason. Alpha means BARE MINIMUM, as in *you are going to play an unbalanced, unfinished, buggy mess purely so that we can develop better and faster*, and people tend to forget that. Still, given it's an alpha, its very impressive how good the game is in its current early stage
its an alpha, save the essay for beta at least.
@@YourHomieJC It's an alpha that people want you to PAY for. If you're spending money for something, you have every right to critique it.
He doesn't wsnt ro lose his in with Hi-Rez which is a smart business practice.
21:56 don’t worry Sam. I’ll try not to watch it so it doesn’t get canceled. I stg they look at the shows I’m watching to decide what to cancel. Not dead yet. How I met your father. Two shows I just checked yesterday because they should’ve had a new season and both canceled. They were so funny that I still laugh when I think back on scenes. Stg they’re looking at the shows I love and just knocking those out. Guaranteed if I loved supacell or whatever the show is. It’d not get another season whatever season they’re on.
10:44 cupids stupid little ghost flying up 😭😭😭
My thing with smite 2 is it runs horribly in my pc. Dropped frames, lag, stutters etc
On my 30th birthday, I didn't feel any differenent. My back had already been hurting for 9 years because i broke it when i was 21 in the marine corps. But 35th, I definitely felt that!!! Also the neith cosplay joke had me rolling 😂
2:17 is not that I have anything against smite2 it’s just the fact that I already have smite1, like if I want to play smite im gonna play the game me and my friends already have and play, I already have smite why would I spend money on pretty much the exact same game with slightly different visuals that none of my friends are playing.
I'm definitely hesitant to switch to smite 2. Learning smite 2 is going to be daunting, it's harder to see wtf is happening in smite 2, I don't want to lose my worshippers, and it's a completely different game with the item system.
I'm sure I'll switch eventually, at some point my friend group is gonna make the switch. but until then it's smite 1 baby!
on that patch 9.5 topic: I freaking love that update! I specifically play warrior because a long fight is so much more fun than the short ones. I want there to be a fight, not just whoever hit ability or basic one shots and it's over.
Hope you are feeling better buddy, good to see you back!
My Problem with Smite 2 is, that they are leaning or copy League although they had their own unique game. Especially because the console Players had a good Moba too but now with the new item System and Shopping Windows it feels not good. Why put all that effort and work in a new game instead of making Smite 1 great again? New is not always better like overwatch 2 impressively has proven. The scam with the Gems is the thing that killed my interest. Nevertheless i wish all Gamers fun at Smite 2, especially you Sam. I will watch you anyway 😅
My only gripe is that the gods that i normally play all the time are nowhere near close to being released (Tiamat, Cthulhu, Atlas, King Arthur)
Glad you're back on here. Missed you last week. My 2 cents. Just because Hi Rez made a 2nd Smite, doesn't mean I have to like the game. No matter how much the streamers want to stress "it's the future". Games fail. To me Smite 2 is a fail. I guess I need to highlight TO ME. It's called an opinion and mine may differ from yours. It's OK. It's a free country. I respect your right to have a different opinion.
Give it time, Smite 2 from first alpha test to now is soooo different, I imagine the final product or even when Beta tests begin that it will be a different product.
The game isn’t fully released, isn’t free, isn’t properly balanced yet, and is missing quite a lot of smite 1 features. It is just being ignorant to make the assumption that it is a fail as of now
The engine on smite 1 is dated and it’s noticed. I been bouncing from game to game and playing smite one feels like playing a ps2 game compared to a ps4 games
Smite 2 all day long
i have 3k hours on smite and over 100 on smite 2 and it is definitely the future. its superior in everything except god quantity
My opinion smite 2 changes arent for the better, complex doesnt mean better. More options arent always better. Especially in team play. The skins not being there is a bit neg to me.
I invested time and money into smite. Smite 2 isnt at a point where i enjoy playing it. Personal magic based using magic and physical using physical makes more sense to me.
See my problem with smite 2 is, the first game I spend almost a decade on, have all my skins and medals, memories and going into smite 2 basically starting from scratch ist just ass to me. Ofc it would be a lot of work to transfer EVERYTHING but why not just overdo smite 1? + the gameplay shown so far looks like smite alpha in 2011.
6:20 I think you got it wrong sam. The intelligence and strength do add depth. But items don’t have magical specific attributes or physical attributes. Sol is a prime example of a god that uses strength builds but she’s still does magical damage. Magic defense items still mitigate her damage.
Oh it's not king arthur 😅 my internet is so janky i missed most of the stream. So glad i can still watch you
Ne Zha is my favorite god, always great to see you playing em
The issue with smite 2 is the lack of everything. I don't want to pay for a game that has less content than it's free predecessor
i cant wait for you to start playing smite 2 duel. I found watching you playing smite 1 duel made me understand and learn gameplay knowledge/builds at a slower but way more fun pace. which made try different gods/builds from both yours and mine knowledge.
I feel like they basically dropped a unfinished game
If alpha and being paid early access is dropping then sure
Sam we all know what the people want to see. GIVE THEM FULL TANK RAMA
Gertrud is/was a pretty popular name in Germany, "was" in like many older women are named Gertrud.
okay i honestly think now that the dust has settled a little on smite 2 that they needed to make something more of a spiritual successor to smite 1 rather than a direct sequel, but thenn again i can understand the apprehension after the concord fiasco
Smite 2 is the only way I'm coming back to the game after 4+ years
Smite 2 has not proven its need for existence. The graphics are barely better (the main selling point for the marketing of it and UE5 in general) and the store changes don't really matter because they automate your buys for you so you don't even have to learn anything new. The changes to the gods are mainly there to tick a box, not only to mention you are loosing a lot of content you already paid for and the mtx in the new one seem predatory even at this moment.
I think Sam is generally excited for it because he wants change for changes' sake. It seems to me that if he detaches from that notion, he'll see the lack of value the sequel provides.
Maybe he doesn't like it either, but why would he bad mouth hi rez when they are the reason he can do this? I'm not saying it is true, just a thought. 😊
I wont say that smite 2 is needed but if they dont want to make smite 2 they have to fix smite 1, it has A LOT of issues, what they did in s10 is close to "fixing it" but they need to change, and they might have had issues with dealing with UE3 since its so old, just think about how restricting it can be, they had to upgrade the engine, so if they wanted to keep smite 1 then they would've made the "Smite 2.0 update" where they change half the game
Damn people sure are harsh, I like smite 2 and I’m sure Sam does too. Plenty of streamers have swapped over to only playing smite 2
Also saying the shop changes don’t matter bc autobuy is in the game is so funny. Say you only watch the game without saying you only watch the game
@@chacharealsmooth941 humm the fact that UE3 prevented a LOT of mecanics to be release and kept development bad as most hard coding couldnt be realised of Smite 1 UE3. Automated store is not used by 99% of Smite playerbase. Smite 2 in time will bring Smite 1 to a much better state than Smite 1
@@redtaileddolphin1875 exactly what I was thinking WHO USES AUTOSHOP
Shout out to us who watched the TILT "tryout" live 😂❤ We love you Sam ❤️🔥
It's crazy to me that people are trying to directly compare an alpha to a game in its 11th season.
Of course smite one is more polished. It probably will be well into the first, maybe even second season.
I really like smite 2 so far. I like how receptive they have been to the community. I think they just bought smite another 10 years which in my optinion is the real challenge. Keeping the game similar enough while continuing to keep things fresh.
Uploaded just in time for my lunch break 👍🏻
14 sec after upload is wild. first
yall remember when if u use ne zha ult on tower u get like 3 ball hitting u when u land ground
Glad to see you recovered from yesterday's unfortunate series of events lol
I'm not into how smite 2 looks or plays currently and the god pool doesn't interest me so I'll see it much later
I like watching smite now, used to play alot, took a long break and havent bothered getting back into it
Damn it. I caught it at 13 seconds but my phone freaked out. I'll take second
I feel like you’re right Sam. A lot of people might not like the new changes but like in every video game it’s just going to be a new generation of players that will adapt to it kinda like Fortnite you had people that were the goat but as the game progressed and change happened new players became the goat and it’s just about adapting to it but it’s always going to be easier said than done
The playbase is to small for it to do anything but kill bith games smite has less then 30 players at any given time. The new game will fracture that further and they will both end forever
Best Honda is either the NSX or the S2000. The answers in your chat were silly.
One thing that will be weird is duel due to the str and magic scaling with building def. Making me believe those gods that build both will slightly outperform. I personally don’t play smite 2 because the lag is worse compared to smite 1 lag lol. I hate living in an apartment with shared WiFi.
Reading these comments and my only 2 cents is that we should play games to have fun, or else be doing something productive w our lives. What’s fun to everyone is different, so play whichever one you want. I prefer smite 1 bc of the reasons Sam said. Don’t wanna relearn a hard ass game and my skins as of yet. When 2 gets better I’ll come over, but I’m in no rush.
My friends and I would LOVE to get back into smite but we spent hundreds of dollars on smite on skins we love and we do not want to have to do that again. We played everyday of our lives until we got PCs and and the skins didn’t carry over. It’s not like we don’t want to spend more money, it’s just feels weird for some reason having all our favorite options unavailable
I'm waiting on smite 2 to be F2P but honestly if they brought back old loki I woulda pay for it the first day lmao
I reckon "Terry" is gonna run out
Honestly I hated smite 2 the first like ten times I played it (been playing smite 1 for like 8 years maybe more) after I started relearning how to build and what characters are broken I started having fun with it and been playing it pretty much daily. Like tank Ra is hilariously fun. Tanks run that game btw.
1:07:16 what Shiv hears at night....
Idk why when he went to the mage page and just picked himself and asked us if that him. kind of weird
5:08 yeah that guy grafix is in ur chat a lot and he should be held accountable for the success of smite 2 for sure
I wanted to try it but then I saw it cost money so why when I have smite1 for free
Обожаю тебя Сэм, ты лучший!
I know loads of Dans, i'm British tho. I can think of like 6 guys called Dan that i actually know and even more that i know of. Also i don't think Karen as a name will die, naming your kid Karen because you like the name and don't care what these silly people think is a super Karen thing to do/say, whilst simultaneously sticking her nose in everyone elses business like it matters... If you know what i mean😂
But realistically i know one Karen and she's a fucking legend tbh.
I had a grandma Sandra too!
IMO, Smite 1 & 2 are analogous to Destiny 1 & 2, where instead of fixing the base game, they just said eff it, here's a new one. The problem is Smite 2 is not light-years better than Smite 1. It's basically a graphics update. The main problems: matchmaking, the competitive scene, game modes, GOD BALANCE, ITEM BALANCE, are not fixed at a fundamental level. I've been playing Smite 1 since season 1 (and watching you before you had a camera or good mic...and sounded completely different lol) and stopped playing season 9. I'm not coming back. I can't imagine Smite 2 captures more players than they had via Smite 1. I predict the game doesn't last long past Alpha/Beta stages. Just my two cents.
Smite 2 is a Paragon copy... adding grass, ruining the build system, and active item shows they can't be original and have totally given up on their own identity. It's more like Paragon or league of legends
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I mean smite 1 has has grass before
That’s somehow at the same time both the dumbest and funniest thing I’ve heard this week
@alexc.a.l.a1619 nice argument... both the dumbest and worst way to have a discussion
@Chagooo really...? Pin a video of it.
I’m rooting for smite 2. At first I was a hater and not interested. Hi-Rez made mistake after mistake with smite 2, but even after all those mistakes the game feels great imo. The devs are working harder and faster than ever before (thanks to UE5) and you can bet on it that the official release will be a banger. Joust, duel, assault, 50 ish gods, free to play, new main menu, ui, and a burst of new players will turn so many heads. The only thing left is to be kinda sad about smite 1
Ne Zha is pretty okay in duel. At the very least he's quite memorable, unlike discordia.
Day 2 of reminding people about the most forgettable god in the game
My problem with Smite 2 lvl 72 with 353hr 314 games played between ranked and casual is I'm always on the team that likes to die multiple times before 5min and get so far behind and refuse to admit the game is lost and wasn't 30 to 40min losing the game. Just saying. I don't get this in Smite 1 so it comes down too a matchmaking issue balance.
I like smite 2, my only grievance is they should have realeased it with joust and assault.
It's not even released yet tho
@kodibutscha4254 bro you know what I mean. Released it to the public. Come on now.
Smite 2 has improved the last few weeks. But they should’ve released it while still going strong on smite 1. Pro league should’ve went on 1 last year and next year when they’re out of alpha the release would been better received
I’m just gonna throw some positivity into this comment section and say I also like smite 2
I'm in heaven
Smite2 will be judged by the same standards as all the Moba that copied OGSmite style, all of them crashed and burned because they're not original, Smite2 is the exact same thing. Smite has a classic gaming look, which fits the gameplay, the moment they took it to next gen, they'll be judged so harshly on looks and gameplay they won't be able to keep up, it's probably going to go the same path as paragon. Smite is easy on the eyes, so people can watch conquest matches without concentrating too much, Smite2 has a lot going on, as good as it looks to play, it's a mess to watch.
I’ve finally reached a point where I have more fun playing smite 2 than smite 1, I have it several chances Over the course of smite 2’s lifespan and it’s just not gotten to the point of being better for me
Smite 2 was made for pro or competitive players and have killed the casual scene that made smite so popular
8 hours of your life for 1 hour of video? Rough
I too am a fellow named Sam
League of legends lets you build a champion magic or physical
in smite 2 anti heal doesnt scale right u will need to build 2 anti heal items just to counter how much lifesteal is in smite 2
everyone can get used to the graphics and animations its the scaling of items that matter most
My isue with smite 2 is it is stille in alpha
See I’m the opposite I loved valorant because it’s more vibrant I also love that it’s somewhat dependent on skill when it comes to agent ability usage and a aim but aim is also RNG which is annoying
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Is Noah a good name 🥺
Cant wait for Smite 2 duel.
Sam is the only smite 1 content i still watch.
I just don't like CURRENT Smite 2 because the Gods they are adding are utter boring to me (my mains have yet to appear in any list of characters coming soon) maybe in a future with more characters I'll try it out some more, played some games but some of the characters choices are too safe for me to care about
smite 2 is an alpha. Let people bark now. They will be back at release.
U don't play smite 2 cause u just want upgraded smite 1. I don't play Smite 2 cause Settings on Console don't function. We are not the same.
Fr the game on console feels awful rn hopefully it gets better cus theres a lot of cool things about it. learningn new items will be a bit weird tho
Keeping it a buck, I just don’t wanna pay for smite 2 if it goes free like smite 1 then I’ll play it.
Idk y but smite 2 just doesn’t feel good like almost clunky
Why are you trying so hard to gaslight people into liking smite2
Im so sick of content creators trying to convince me that smite 2 is good. Just play the fucking game.
enjoy your 10 year old outdated game then
@@jadahub3370 I do.
Smite 2 just needs time to cook.
I just get in Smite and i have to say that it is dog popo
I play on ps4, just this is enough for me to dislike smite 2, since smite 2 wont be able for ps4 and Im from brazil and dont really want to sell any organ to buy an ps5, and the fact I spent a lot in smite for skins and etc, all this but skins wont transfer to smite 2 🤡 and obviously they wont work much on smite because all attention will go for smite 2, probably regular smite server will fall in some time, so all the time i spent, all the money i spent, everything i spent on smite will be gone 😀😄😃😁😆🥳🥳🥳🥳💓💓💗💖💘💞💝💕💫💫💫👏👏👏💃💃💃
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