They sent out the email over 2 months ago right? I still haven’t gotten it because I never used it and probably won’t. I don’t need key codes I know how to pick locks and decode why pay them $400 for something I’ll never use. People will always find another way to take what they want
Autel is using this at this moment to keep us in subscription for every tool. My main tool will cost me nearly 2000.00 just for the update and I normally wait a couple of years because we don't see the newest vehicles because of warranty. We now can longer use our tools for even a rear brake job because it will lock you out without update and new licenses and manufacturers will also charge on some makes to access the use without paying them for each use per vehicle. I called autel having 3 scan tools could not perform a function I used for years for electronic parking brake service mode for brakes
Amazing how they can tell you how great this is for the industry, and for the automotive consumer, but don't you dare ask questions and record it. They're not the government, but they took all the lessons out of the "I am the government", handbook.
Thank you JK for the post. I’m concerned with their inability to answer some of the harder questions or maybe not wanting to. Mostly I’m concerned as to why they didn’t want this to be recorded at an open event. Not good!
Ford use to have a 10min timer before 2013. Even if you increased that to 30min and have the vehicle do some light/horn actuations, that should help with theft and then if you want instant access, a actual voluntary nastf login could be used.
What's your take on the new Supreme Court ruling reversing the Chevron doctrine? Do you think it will affect NASTF? It takes away all federal government agencies ability to create regulations and interpret law. Kind of destroys the "Law enforcement is going to make you do it anyway" argument. Keep up the great work!
Mechanics in Texas don't need to be licensed and don't make keys but are going to have to get a licensed to work on modules that have security info ! I have 33 + years experience as a locksmith and thinks it's crazy to force mechanics to get a locksmith licensed with is impossible to get without 3 years experience as a locksmith working for a licensed company! Locksmiths in Texas can work as a contractor and not an employee as and for other locksmith company's. Why? We still go through all the background checks withe includ the state and fbi. So who the fuck is nastf to tell me that I have to be an owner or a employee? Who the fuck is nastf to force mechanics to get a locksmith license to program a TCM, ECU, DME ect. FYI my buddy is has had his mechanic shop established for 30+ years and does work that nobody else in the surrounding area can do! He does work on BMW, Mercedes Benz, Land Rover, Jaguar, Ferrari, Lamborghin ect. F nastf and their bullshit excuses and lies
Great vid my guy. Did they tell you when this vsp requirement will take place, like a specific date? Their 45 to 60 days is past due from the not so informative email they sent out 2 months ago. Also did they specify which brands will comply? Why are they being so secretive about their own new policies??
You call is 'circle answering', I've called it 'question shifting' or 'blame shifting'. The same thing is done in gas lighting and by narcissists to make you feel little or dumb. -- I think it's so funny how they're saying 'all tools' will require NASTF like it's federally against the law. And then ya'll asked 'who's all in', and you got ONE answer: AUTEL.
Thank you for sharing this side of the story. Definitely some shady dealings behind the scene from multiple parties.. and angles. I truly appreciate you doing such a great job of asking the questions that need to be answered. And I admire your courage and willingness to fight for the aftermarket and report the truth. The big OE manufacturers, scan tool companies and NASTF are in my mind severely deceiving us all. What they are doing should be criminal. And will cause a lot of harm. That’s nothing new lately in the is country. Follow the money! Always leads to greed and corruption. We will lose our freedoms and our democracy one new law or regulation at a time. And will be the downfall of this nation.
The market will respond and everyone will flock to "non-compliant" tools that will be less of a pain in the ass for 98% of the time. This will accomplish nothing except possibly make things more expensive for the end customer on newer vehicles that require these "compliant" tools. I agree, I just see a power grab to have control. No vehicle I know was stolen with a scan tool. Usually stolen keys and broken ignitions.
There likely isn't any intense negotiations with the scantool companies. It's more likely "we'll pay you this much outta this to let us require this subscription so we all make money"..
Big respect to you my brother. I see on the Facebook groupsvery active. Watched some popular RUclips technician tryna butter us up to lay down without any questions. Thank God that most didn't buy his butter. People get popular then sell their popularity to the highest bidder. Thank God you're not one of them
Not that it matters I have moved away from the automotive industry all together.Biggest disappointment is I wasted all the time in training and tools that nastf wants to control and milk money from us all looks political now.I watched the meeting what a disappointment.Good luck to all the shops that struggle with this nonsense.
There's a group of people that keep preaching professionalism and taking a position of moral high ground. That same group were the first ones to act immature and launch personal attacks on people that dare question what they're preaching. That's not leadership that's the mark of tyranny. The only thing worse are the ones that criticize them in private but play along in public. Being in this industry is disheartening in many ways, especially with the childish cool clubs and cronyism. The hypocrisy is rampant! The irony is it's another case of so called conservatives selling out to quasi government for a bag of silver coins. It's hard to tell at times if I'm listening to the crooked politicains selling out our country or an automotive group. Nothing about this is voluntary and it does nothing to address it's stated purpose. Nothing! What it does do is attack the mobile mechanic, small shops, and the consumer. That is the purpose of this program, that and to make money for the select few that are running it. There's no effort at notice to any party it costs money to EXCEPT for the ones that'd likely pay for a subscription. Read the Clayton and Sherman act and let's talk about that. This exclusion program and market cornering is exactly why we have antitrust laws. Try as they have to snake around them they haven't because they stayed their purpose to limit the market and drive up prices, that's illegal on its face. The whole story of the OEMs threatening to deny us all access, what a crock! They wouldn't dare, laws would pass so fast they'd lose their behinds! A little common sense goes a long way and that's their problem with you JK, you're telling the truth. Tyranny and conspiracy doesn't want anything to do with the truth.
They sent out the email over 2 months ago right? I still haven’t gotten it because I never used it and probably won’t. I don’t need key codes I know how to pick locks and decode why pay them $400 for something I’ll never use. People will always find another way to take what they want
Autel is using this at this moment to keep us in subscription for every tool. My main tool will cost me nearly 2000.00 just for the update and I normally wait a couple of years because we don't see the newest vehicles because of warranty. We now can longer use our tools for even a rear brake job because it will lock you out without update and new licenses and manufacturers will also charge on some makes to access the use without paying them for each use per vehicle. I called autel having 3 scan tools could not perform a function I used for years for electronic parking brake service mode for brakes
Amazing how they can tell you how great this is for the industry, and for the automotive consumer, but don't you dare ask questions and record it. They're not the government, but they took all the lessons out of the "I am the government", handbook.
thanks JK!!
Thank you JK for the post. I’m concerned with their inability to answer some of the harder questions or maybe not wanting to. Mostly I’m concerned as to why they didn’t want this to be recorded at an open event. Not good!
Ford use to have a 10min timer before 2013. Even if you increased that to 30min and have the vehicle do some light/horn actuations, that should help with theft and then if you want instant access, a actual voluntary nastf login could be used.
I agree, the worst part is how they keep hiding behind the "voluntary" excuse when it's clearly not voluntary!
What's your take on the new Supreme Court ruling reversing the Chevron doctrine? Do you think it will affect NASTF? It takes away all federal government agencies ability to create regulations and interpret law. Kind of destroys the "Law enforcement is going to make you do it anyway" argument. Keep up the great work!
Mechanics in Texas don't need to be licensed and don't make keys but are going to have to get a licensed to work on modules that have security info ! I have 33 + years experience as a locksmith and thinks it's crazy to force mechanics to get a locksmith licensed with is impossible to get without 3 years experience as a locksmith working for a licensed company! Locksmiths in Texas can work as a contractor and not an employee as and for other locksmith company's. Why? We still go through all the background checks withe includ the state and fbi. So who the fuck is nastf to tell me that I have to be an owner or a employee? Who the fuck is nastf to force mechanics to get a locksmith license to program a TCM, ECU, DME ect. FYI my buddy is has had his mechanic shop established for 30+ years and does work that nobody else in the surrounding area can do! He does work on BMW, Mercedes Benz, Land Rover, Jaguar, Ferrari, Lamborghin ect. F nastf and their bullshit excuses and lies
Great vid my guy. Did they tell you when this vsp requirement will take place, like a specific date? Their 45 to 60 days is past due from the not so informative email they sent out 2 months ago. Also did they specify which brands will comply? Why are they being so secretive about their own new policies??
This is his video I wonder why he doesn't respond I would like to know the answer because I have the same questions ❓
I don’t believe they even know when it will begin. It seems to be built on a very unstable foundation. There’s so many unanswered questions.
You call is 'circle answering', I've called it 'question shifting' or 'blame shifting'. The same thing is done in gas lighting and by narcissists to make you feel little or dumb. -- I think it's so funny how they're saying 'all tools' will require NASTF like it's federally against the law. And then ya'll asked 'who's all in', and you got ONE answer: AUTEL.
Thank you for sharing this side of the story. Definitely some shady dealings behind the scene from multiple parties.. and angles. I truly appreciate you doing such a great job of asking the questions that need to be answered. And I admire your courage and willingness to fight for the aftermarket and report the truth. The big OE manufacturers, scan tool companies and NASTF are in my mind severely deceiving us all. What they are doing should be criminal. And will cause a lot of harm.
That’s nothing new lately in the is country. Follow the money! Always leads to greed and corruption. We will lose our freedoms and our democracy one new law or regulation at a time. And will be the downfall of this nation.
The market will respond and everyone will flock to "non-compliant" tools that will be less of a pain in the ass for 98% of the time. This will accomplish nothing except possibly make things more expensive for the end customer on newer vehicles that require these "compliant" tools. I agree, I just see a power grab to have control. No vehicle I know was stolen with a scan tool. Usually stolen keys and broken ignitions.
Keep up the good work
There likely isn't any intense negotiations with the scantool companies. It's more likely "we'll pay you this much outta this to let us require this subscription so we all make money"..
You're right 👍 but we already paying out the ass for yearly subscription 👈
It’s not about the truth, but about control and $$$.
“Negotiations” with OEM? Please...
What if Autel was the majority contributor to Nastif behind the scene...
Apparently they were
Big respect to you my brother. I see on the Facebook groupsvery active. Watched some popular RUclips technician tryna butter us up to lay down without any questions. Thank God that most didn't buy his butter. People get popular then sell their popularity to the highest bidder. Thank God you're not one of them
I’m with you all the way we can’t trust them
Thank you, brother
I appreciate you!
Not that it matters I have moved away from the automotive industry all together.Biggest disappointment is I wasted all the time in training and tools that nastf wants to control and milk money from us all looks political now.I watched the meeting what a disappointment.Good luck to all the shops that struggle with this nonsense.
There's a group of people that keep preaching professionalism and taking a position of moral high ground. That same group were the first ones to act immature and launch personal attacks on people that dare question what they're preaching. That's not leadership that's the mark of tyranny. The only thing worse are the ones that criticize them in private but play along in public. Being in this industry is disheartening in many ways, especially with the childish cool clubs and cronyism. The hypocrisy is rampant! The irony is it's another case of so called conservatives selling out to quasi government for a bag of silver coins. It's hard to tell at times if I'm listening to the crooked politicains selling out our country or an automotive group. Nothing about this is voluntary and it does nothing to address it's stated purpose. Nothing! What it does do is attack the mobile mechanic, small shops, and the consumer. That is the purpose of this program, that and to make money for the select few that are running it. There's no effort at notice to any party it costs money to EXCEPT for the ones that'd likely pay for a subscription. Read the Clayton and Sherman act and let's talk about that. This exclusion program and market cornering is exactly why we have antitrust laws. Try as they have to snake around them they haven't because they stayed their purpose to limit the market and drive up prices, that's illegal on its face. The whole story of the OEMs threatening to deny us all access, what a crock! They wouldn't dare, laws would pass so fast they'd lose their behinds! A little common sense goes a long way and that's their problem with you JK, you're telling the truth. Tyranny and conspiracy doesn't want anything to do with the truth.
Thank you for having a backbone
Who actually cares what this guy hee-haws about?