I think the biggest takeaway is that CFMoto is showing just how complacent and overpriced some of the bigger name brands have gotten. Some of them in my opinion are banking too much on the preconceived notion that their reliability is why you buy them. Folks can deny and throw shade at CF because they aren't as established, but the truth is competition is good for everyone.
Price has been an issue for a few years there's not one atv worth over 10k but people keep buying can ams and polaris 1000s for almost 25k. Like I tell people all the time, if team China can make complete ATVs like cfmoto, linhai, odes, Massimo for all sub 7k with import fees and everything included there's zero reason that Polaris kawi can am ect can all charge near double for a machine assembled in the US with zero customs and shipping fees ect.
Justify your purchase anyway you want. The sad factor is China's unscrupulous business practices. I doubt you'll ever see a CFMOTO manufacturing plant in the USA. Their prices will be on par with everyone else's. Personally, IMHO it's a conscious choice! Do you want to support a non-NATO Communist China. Or NATO Allies and American workers along with free market systems. Get out of the shade buddy!!!!
A decade ago Polaris was what CF Moto is now. Great features at price points the competition couldn't match. Polaris got complacent and more interested in 30 k sxs. From a Polaris loyalist.
@@RealTalkPowersports As do I, it's a sad time to be an ATV loyalist in a lot of ways. Sport quads all but extinct, my beloved BruteForce 750 was discontinued. Hopefully CF Moto keeps their price point reasonable on their ATVs.
I pulled the trigger on a 22 600 in Camo last December and couldn’t be more pleased with my decision, which was based Solely on your videos and what you guys put them through. Now I know the drill your a dealer and get new bikes when you need to do a review,repair etc. For the average Joe 😅😅 who’s going to have the bike till they either upgrade or it falls apart I don’t think you can beat them for the price JMO. People I hunt with are Strong Honda guys and that’s fine, but after I left my bike at the camp and they actually used it for a month (me not there) more then one has asked Where did I get it? The power steering Alone is worth a good ride if you can get your azz on one for a day if you just Have To Give the big Three your money go for it but at the end of the day it’s a Man Made Machine and your going to have an issue here or there with Anything man made I think it is the best $6,800 I spent Thanks Team MSC for everything you share with us
To anyone who is on the fence with this brand: I have a cforce 1000 and it holds up, shows up, and shows out with everyone else on the trails with no issues. Plus, the aesthetic appeal definitely turns some heads. Id recommend this brand 100.
The only one I've ever seen broke the control arm bracket off following me on my can am. If you think it's even comparable bring it out. I'll even put my stock tires and stock tune back on.
@@403outdoors4 in my opinion CF is more for a hobbyist who goes on a little adventures, other US, Russian or Japanese models are double the price but for more extreme fun
We pulled a brand new cfmoto z force 950 utv with less than a 100 miles on it, because it shredded its belt. Dude was happy we came across him on the trail.
I need to say that the CF moto has full LED, cell phone call notification via Bluetooth on the dashboard, trailer connection, 12 V and USB socket, 2 waterproof cabinets to store things... I have the CF Moto 600 Greetings from Uruguay..
whats funny is most people dont know cf moto been around for over 20 yrs and now partnered with ktm so thier not junk and are really the best bang for the buck really
I stayed with Polaris because where we ride everybody either has a Polaris or a Can-Am and I've had Polaris machines for the last 24 years. It also depends on your dealers, last weekend I picked up a 24 model 570 trail ride command for $9,800 out the door. That's well below their MSRP, and my general has ride command so I was able to import my maps which was really handy. Especially if one of my daughters takes the quad out or if I have a buddy riding it they can see exactly where they are. I did sit on some CF Moto stuff locally and I thought about buying one of their small ones for my youngest daughter. But as far as the larger machines go, if I break down somewhere on the trails chances are someone has a Polaris part I can snag without having to drive hours back to Civilization. Good video!!
Honestly if the polaris was cheaper than the cfmoto i would still buy the cfmoto. The cfmoto overall has a better design and fit and finish compared to polaris atvs
While its def arguable that polaris is overpriced Cf Moto is Chinese junk. It will not last. Less power and id bet my house if one took the moto thru some of the same tough terrain i take my Can am through it wont last. Period. Do yourselves a favor and at least buy Taiwan machines.
@@RealTalkPowersports He is absolutely wrong and you know it. The AWD of Polaris has no competition and it is a lot better from 4x4 or lock the rest atvs have . I appreciate your work though.
My biggest complaint with the CF Moto is the stuff suspension. In all fairness I have had a few Polaris machines. CF feels a lot like a can am. As far as price you can't beat the CF Moto. If you guys start doing all the same things for Polaris and Can Am I believe you'll have the absolute best dealership in the country.
I love my 625 OK the quality might just not be there on the feel of some of the switches but for the cost it can't be beaten I changed from Honda and I'm a die hard Honda fan but for the extra money the new Hondas cost for less equipment and less performance I just couldn't get one I looked at everything else but kept coming back to the CF moto
I bought a brand new polaris 500ho in 2013 and i beat the ever living piss out of the thing starting day one in the oilfield going through snow, over snow drifts and bogging it in mud and water for 3 years and its still running great with 5000 miles on it. Its never had an easier life since i was done in the oilfield, it just plows snow and checks crops now bit still gets bogged every year. Way better machine than my buddies kawasaki or my other buddies yamaha
Why are people brand loyal, i never u understood it. Marketing told you to be. Sad world. I also own a Polaris why? Not cuz it's garbage, but they didn't have the uforce when I bought my ranger, I'm pretty sure if have bought it and research things heavily before I buy, not based off brand.
Awesome comparison of the 2 machines. I just recently purchased a UForce 1000 and was interested to see that CF Moto offers the same standard features on their other models. I’d be interested to see exactly how much more the Polaris would cost to be comparably equipped. I know the cost difference between my UForce 1000 and Ranger 1000 was several thousand less. Keep up the great work.
Here in Canada all CF motos whether atv or sxs come standard with signal lights, 4 way flashing and a horn. I have a 2020 Uforce 800 with roof, windshield and "full" doors and it was 18k with taxes. My side by side also has diff lock and an override switch for it incase you need to go faster in diff lock which I don't know why you would. I also got a wired winch remote and a Bluetooth wireless remote for my winch.
I've been trying to decide between the Cforce 600 and 500 mainly because I'm not sure if the 600 is actually quicker or not like is it worth the extra money on the performance side of things or is it better to just save and go for the 500? Since I've been seeing a couple videos and bits of information that suggests the 500 is really close to 600... if anyone could let me know I'd appreciate it
I got a smoking deal on a new 22 cfMoto 800xc and couldn't be happier , your videos and reviews is pretty much what swayed me to cfMoto, the price point is untouchable for the extras that are standard, my machine was 10,200 out the door, to get the sportsman 850 with winch handguards and power steering and alloy wheels was 13-15k and they have recall after recall on the newer Polaris s
The CF600 is better well I'm biased I love my tuned CF625 the acceleration is unbelievable 800kg tow capacity off road diff lock you really can't beat CF moto what you get for you money is fantastic I looked at everything on the market I really couldn't justify spending more money on another brand and getting less for it and to others not even operating as good
On the ATVs, I think the quality and looks on the Cf Moto is blowing Polaris and Can-Am out the water as soon as they get their performance up a little bit. They will be number one just like you guys oh and let’s not forget number one in price to😂
Just purchased a CF moto 700 max , did a ton of research on Cam Am and Polaris but the road and price kept bringing me back to the CF Moto, also the looks and standard features, not looking to do any rough riding just trails and fun with my wife that's why I got a seater, all of them have parts made in chine so that argument is not valid anymore.
Cf moto is an excellent atv I work as a atv/utv mechanic in northern Michigan for every 1 honda or yamaha or cf moto I work on 10 polaris. They used to make a good product but have went down quality over the last 10 years
The CF MOTO looks like a nice quad I just don't know about long-term care. Me personally I have a 2021 Grizzly and a 2021 Kodiak 700 and have had many Yamaha quads with no issues. But thats a good looking quad with lots of accessories from factory. Nice review. 😊
Yeah, my Uncle has a CForce 600. A couple years old and he's had to put over 2K into the transmission, his came with EPS, but that stopped working(so he just doesn't use it). I took out the Cforce 850 and that thing was an absolute beast. Great, comfortable ride...but I just decided to go with the Sportsman. Ride Command(I have land up North and there are ~500 acres that zig-zag along the river and it's hard to keep track of where I am). Driving my Uncles, it had plastic underneath, the skid plate broke off almost immediately. It's still going strong, don't get me wrong. He pulls a lot of heavy shit out of the woods, up to his cabin, cuts it up. But I spent 2K more on a Polaris through a dealership. Got a 5 years warranty that covers everything(but obviously tires, break, shit like that. I got the winch on, the 5-year warranty, and a '24 for 10,200 and the Cforce 600 was going to be ~8300 walking out the door. So I'm happy. That 5-year Polaris Warranty...maybe I don't use it, but I feel like it was worth it. The WHOLE reason I got it was because nobody has lived on the land or used it since my Cousin went to College and moved away ~20 years ago. So we had...~20 miles of trails ALL over the place and those are pretty much gone now. So I'm trying to get it opened back up. So I wanted something I could beat up, put through the mud. Skid plate, the winch, and the warranty made it worth it.
Polaris shows a much smoother ride and who cares if it does a wheelie, they are work atvs. I had a sportsman 400ho for over 10 years and it didnt let me down once. I will take the polaris sportsman over any other atv. Dont care if it costs more, i depend on that machine on the farm
There is a lot more pep in the CFMOTO than the Polaris. Perhaps it is because of the clutching and/or how the factory has it tuned? I've always liked the Polaris 570, but have always been worried about belts and knowing from friends who have owned them, Polaris does not have enough grease in any of the bearings in addition to their bushing being total garbage. There are several videos and posts dating back many years concerning this problem. Kits exists to remedy that known issue.
👍 yes I would like to do clutch work to both and tune both and run them again just for fun.. just see how much you can maximize both without doing any motorwork
Were i ride Va. Washington national forest i have noticed good last 3 yrs im seeing more & more CFMOTOS also CFMOTO side by sides. Riders say they really like them
I have a 2020 Uforce 800 and the only real complaint I have is it gets really warm inside the cab in the summer as the motor is almost sitting beside you because of having the dump box. But it's a really great machine, not too loud I can still talk to my passenger. It is a little rough riding on trails, although to be fair it wasn't really made for trails it's a utility vehicle. But it brings deer and bear out real easy. And in Canada they come standard with signal lights, 4 way flashing and a horn. I love the signal lights especially with some official trails here use back roads and highways to connect trails.
I had a 17 sportsman 570 and I found once it was passed the break in period it would wheelie in high gear. Still have to bounce it or load it up a bit but after break in it was waaaaaaay easier to wheelie in high.
There are quite a few differences between the 22 and '23 models, including, larger intake and exhaust valves, different cam profile, forged aluminium piston, larger diameter exhaust head and intake flter/airbox, new 112 pin ECU with fly-by-wire with two power modes. Also, different tyres, synthetic winch rope and new pattern handlebar grips.... think that is about it!!
..I forgot to add that the engine mount is 10mm lower to allow more anti vibration and the the chassis has been altered to diff mounts too, making for easier removal/installation of the differentials
I actually put money down on the Polaris but with the belt exhaust located by the rear driver’s tire I swapped to CFMOTO. Terrible location for belt exhaust. 680 flawless miles on CFMOTO 600
just bought a 2023 cforce 600 and i love it.........but, the suspension sucks. anyone know of good shocks that fit it ? (besides elka 1500.00 set, that is not out yet)
Excuse me, do you ship your CFMoto products (oil change kits, air filter, cleaners) overseas? as CFMoto user in Indonesia we don't have any access to those products, we have the dealer but they don't have the parts ready, so we need to look overseas for parts
So if you can text the shop number at (662) 438-6407 and include your name and that you spoke with me (Blake) and need assistance with shipping parts and oil change kits to Indonesia
Please can you throw some light on the Cforce 625 touring and the Loncin XWolf 700L. XWolf is gaining a lot of attention but just want to get a real time review from professionals like you guys please can you recommend which 1 to go for ?
The biggest issue I've heard wi th cfmoto is parts. Back order everything. So the forums say. Fix that issue and they will be unstoppable. I'm a fan of cfmoto, bang for your buck you can't beat it.
I talked a dealer about a CFmoto c force 600 touring and they told me that it $8700 out the door then they told me it was almost $10000 that was including the doc fee and dealer prep and sales tax so I'm honestly thinking about possibly not doing business with them, but at the same time I'm thinking about trying to talk them down to $8600 I already talked to them about $8000 and they said no.
I bought a new 600 Touring from St. Hilaire Motorsports in New Hampshire back in 21. It was the lowest OTD price out of all the dealers in New England because of no sales tax. I paid MSRP + $800 Freight + $150 Set-up + $100 doc fee. So $6899 + $1050 in fees = $7950 OTD. The current MSRP is $7699 and it looks like their fees haven't changed. So that would be $8750 OTD. So the $8700 OTD that you were quoted seems about right. If you have to pay Maine sales tax when you go to register it, figure another $400. You shouldn't be looking at any more than $9100 all said and done. I'd suggest calling a bunch of dealers and just ask for best OTD price. The add-on fees are BS but all the other brands are doing it too.
Really the only place the cfmoto machines are lacking is in power, but in the real world I don't think it matters. I've always owned Honda machines, so I'm used to very low power numbers lol
How are the welds and durability of the frame. I have no doubt the engine and all of that’s good but are they cutting corners on the structure? Just wondering why they’re so much less then the competion
Nice vid…. Looking at a used 2021 570 Trail, the new body with the arched Aarms, but has 1700mi, $5k. Or a 22 cfmoto 600 touring 2up 40miles on it, almost brand new. $6k. Is it a tough decision? Or do you already know?
Main Street Cycle never has issues getting OEM or Upgraded aftermarket replacement parts if needed and has most on Hand ready to ship out if not a local customer.
I just bought a 2023CFMoto CForce 600. Lookiing at some of the specs I see this thing is way heavier than the other brands even the Suzuki 750 is only 700 lbs or so. Are the specs wrong for these machines or does the 800 actually weigh more than 1000 lbs while the 750 Kawasaki Brute weighs 725 lbs???
Is the cforce 600 or 800 reliable for snow plowing 99% of the time, or do these machines have major issues. Need info before I purchase this brand! Thanx.
Ive got a 570 EPS and wouldnt trade it for a C Moto if you gave me 3 grand more cash. The suspension in my book is amazing. Power steering which is adjustable I prefer medium works flawlessly. Dont care for fancy wheels prefer my steelies. Hand gaurds cool I can get some. Winch yup can put that on as well. Made in America CF Moto mmmmm Nope. Sportsman made in America um yup. Factory used to be near me now its Indian stuff no not that Indian stuff motor cycles ya hippie
I think it's important to compare equal price points. What Polaris can you build for the price of a CF Moto with EPS, a Winch, hand guards and upgraded tires? I think a CF Moto 600 2023 needs to be compared to a Polaris 450 MAYBE. Now how close in power are the detuned CF Motos to a Polaris 450 (499cc) ?
Just picked up a 23 cfmoto 500 for my son and love it so far. Can someone tell me why the 500 has arched front A arms but the 600 does not? Thanks for the videos.
Awesome man! And the New CFORCE 500 was redesigned Last Year and they new the desire of customers to have that. So I imagine in the future when they redesign the 600 they will incorporate the arched arms... but I don't know the timeline
I owned both a Cfmoto x10 2023 and a Polaris sportsman 2010. Compared to Polaris, the CF sucks, after 2 months of ownership I sold the CF (surprisingly, I sold it very quickly and profitably) and bought the Brp. For myself, I concluded that at the moment Chinese ATVs are just a pathetic parody of polaris and BRP. We'll see what happens in 10 years, but for now this is the case.
If you want a good polaris get a predator old predator 500 or outlaw they also had metal thumb throttles no issue with aarms falling apart or cv axles or fans destroying the radiators no clutching issues or belts blowing up no electrical issue and more they were the only good polaris machine, polaris might be able to make alot of power but they need a new quality department
How do they compare utility wise? The sportsman 570 can carry 90 lbs on the front rack, 180 lbs on rear rack and tow 1350 lbs. The cf moto 600 is rated for only 44 lbs, 88 lbs and 620 lbs towing capacity which is a big difference for folks who may want to use their machine for work or hunting. But for all around trail riding for a weekend getaway the CF Moto definitely adds a lot of bang for your buck. Not sure why the capacity ratings are so low but are worth looking into.
CFMoto seems so loud, like you are revving its guts out to move whereas the Sportsman sounds more enjoyable to ride. I guess it's a clutch issue but after 20 years of making them you'd think they could buy a competitors atv and dissect it. All the stuff they come with is great but not if you can't stand to ride it. I want to buy one but can't get over that. I'm scared of Polaris even though I love their comfort. I guess King Quad or Brute Force it is.
Out of the 2 cf moto is more reliable than Polaris fun aspect cf moto quality cf moto all around junk Polaris but Honda is still top of the line for long life
Zhejiang Chunfeng Power Co., Ltd.,[a] commonly known by its trade name CFMOTO,[b] is a Chinese manufacturer of engines, motorcycles, all-terrain vehicles, quadricycles, quads, and yachts headquartered in Hangzhou, Zhejiang, China.
Is the seat on the cfmoto really small? It looks like it, which would be a deal breaker for me. Doesn’t look like you could even take your kid riding with you (yes I know neither is technically a 2-seater, but you know…). Much more important to me personally than aluminum wheels and LED lights. Still, looks like a nice machine…if it’s durable.
I think the biggest takeaway is that CFMoto is showing just how complacent and overpriced some of the bigger name brands have gotten. Some of them in my opinion are banking too much on the preconceived notion that their reliability is why you buy them. Folks can deny and throw shade at CF because they aren't as established, but the truth is competition is good for everyone.
Very good point sir! I do agree
Look at what Can Am did with their ATV line up. I believe CFMOTO was a big reason they revamped most of their ATVs.
Price has been an issue for a few years there's not one atv worth over 10k but people keep buying can ams and polaris 1000s for almost 25k. Like I tell people all the time, if team China can make complete ATVs like cfmoto, linhai, odes, Massimo for all sub 7k with import fees and everything included there's zero reason that Polaris kawi can am ect can all charge near double for a machine assembled in the US with zero customs and shipping fees ect.
Justify your purchase anyway you want. The sad factor is China's unscrupulous business practices. I doubt you'll ever see a CFMOTO manufacturing plant in the USA. Their prices will be on par with everyone else's. Personally, IMHO it's a conscious choice! Do you want to support a non-NATO Communist China. Or NATO Allies and American workers along with free market systems. Get out of the shade buddy!!!!
I don’t disagree, but I still would’ve went with the Polaris
A decade ago Polaris was what CF Moto is now. Great features at price points the competition couldn't match. Polaris got complacent and more interested in 30 k sxs. From a Polaris loyalist.
That is sad but the truth..
I hope they come around.. but I believe they are at the point of no return
@@RealTalkPowersports As do I, it's a sad time to be an ATV loyalist in a lot of ways. Sport quads all but extinct, my beloved BruteForce 750 was discontinued. Hopefully CF Moto keeps their price point reasonable on their ATVs.
@@rzl07375 I wish Sport Quads could make a come back...
Those SxS's are so bloated, and overpriced it's ridiculous, and that was before bidenomics came into play!!!...from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 👋🤠
Same, Polaris guy since early 90s, my 2024 CFM is the first non Polaris I've owned and I'm very impressed.
I pulled the trigger on a 22 600 in Camo last December and couldn’t be more pleased with my decision, which was based Solely on your videos and what you guys put them through. Now I know the drill your a dealer and get new bikes when you need to do a review,repair etc. For the average Joe 😅😅 who’s going to have the bike till they either upgrade or it falls apart I don’t think you can beat them for the price JMO. People I hunt with are Strong Honda guys and that’s fine, but after I left my bike at the camp and they actually used it for a month (me not there) more then one has asked Where did I get it?
The power steering Alone is worth a good ride if you can get your azz on one for a day if you just Have To Give the big Three your money go for it but at the end of the day it’s a Man Made Machine and your going to have an issue here or there with Anything man made I think it is the best $6,800 I spent
Thanks Team MSC for everything you share with us
To anyone who is on the fence with this brand:
I have a cforce 1000 and it holds up, shows up, and shows out with everyone else on the trails with no issues.
Plus, the aesthetic appeal definitely turns some heads. Id recommend this brand 100.
💪👍👍
The only one I've ever seen broke the control arm bracket off following me on my can am. If you think it's even comparable bring it out. I'll even put my stock tires and stock tune back on.
@@403outdoors4 in my opinion CF is more for a hobbyist who goes on a little adventures, other US, Russian or Japanese models are double the price but for more extreme fun
@@fpsserbia6570 Russian? What?
@@pmaint1 ??? What?
ATV, it is just made and produced by Russian company,
same shit as CFMOTO just much more expensive
We pulled a brand new cfmoto z force 950 utv with less than a 100 miles on it, because it shredded its belt. Dude was happy we came across him on the trail.
It's probably because the dumbass was putting along in high gear instead of in low where it should be for slow crawling.
I have pulled a polaris 1000 with less than 60 hrs before
im not very educated when it comes to atv's but cant you replace the belt on the side of the trail like you can with a snowmobile?
I need to say that the CF moto has full LED, cell phone call notification via Bluetooth on the dashboard, trailer connection, 12 V and USB socket, 2 waterproof cabinets to store things... I have the CF Moto 600 Greetings from Uruguay..
whats funny is most people dont know cf moto been around for over 20 yrs and now partnered with ktm so thier not junk and are really the best bang for the buck really
I stayed with Polaris because where we ride everybody either has a Polaris or a Can-Am and I've had Polaris machines for the last 24 years.
It also depends on your dealers, last weekend I picked up a 24 model 570 trail ride command for $9,800 out the door. That's well below their MSRP, and my general has ride command so I was able to import my maps which was really handy. Especially if one of my daughters takes the quad out or if I have a buddy riding it they can see exactly where they are.
I did sit on some CF Moto stuff locally and I thought about buying one of their small ones for my youngest daughter. But as far as the larger machines go, if I break down somewhere on the trails chances are someone has a Polaris part I can snag without having to drive hours back to Civilization.
Good video!!
When have you ever had to snag a part off of another machine to get home?
Honestly if the polaris was cheaper than the cfmoto i would still buy the cfmoto. The cfmoto overall has a better design and fit and finish compared to polaris atvs
You ain’t wrong there
While its def arguable that polaris is overpriced Cf Moto is Chinese junk. It will not last. Less power and id bet my house if one took the moto thru some of the same tough terrain i take my Can am through it wont last. Period. Do yourselves a favor and at least buy Taiwan machines.
@@stars-in-the-galaxy333cfmoto is not Chinese based…its actually Canadian.
@@DHoppey10 my brother wrote that comment lol he was just clicking random words
@@RealTalkPowersports He is absolutely wrong and you know it. The AWD of Polaris has no competition and it is a lot better from 4x4 or lock the rest atvs have . I appreciate your work though.
My biggest complaint with the CF Moto is the stuff suspension. In all fairness I have had a few Polaris machines. CF feels a lot like a can am. As far as price you can't beat the CF Moto. If you guys start doing all the same things for Polaris and Can Am I believe you'll have the absolute best dealership in the country.
I love my 23 600! Next is 27" tires a MSC air filter and stage 3 trail clutch kit
Awesome brother
When you think CFMOTO nailed it with the previous years' 600, they come up with improvements for 2023. I love the cforce 600!!!
Yes sir! You are absolutely correct
It is a great unit
Awesome. It’s amazing on smooth they made the 23 600 vs previous models. I absolutely love my 500 gen2.
Yes they are! and thank you!
I love my 625 OK the quality might just not be there on the feel of some of the switches but for the cost it can't be beaten I changed from Honda and I'm a die hard Honda fan but for the extra money the new Hondas cost for less equipment and less performance I just couldn't get one I looked at everything else but kept coming back to the CF moto
I bought a brand new polaris 500ho in 2013 and i beat the ever living piss out of the thing starting day one in the oilfield going through snow, over snow drifts and bogging it in mud and water for 3 years and its still running great with 5000 miles on it. Its never had an easier life since i was done in the oilfield, it just plows snow and checks crops now bit still gets bogged every year. Way better machine than my buddies kawasaki or my other buddies yamaha
I will always be a polaris guy but that cf moto looks like a decent machine.
Why are people brand loyal, i never u understood it. Marketing told you to be. Sad world. I also own a Polaris why? Not cuz it's garbage, but they didn't have the uforce when I bought my ranger, I'm pretty sure if have bought it and research things heavily before I buy, not based off brand.
@@chadsteele1 American first
Awesome comparison of the 2 machines. I just recently purchased a UForce 1000 and was interested to see that CF Moto offers the same standard features on their other models. I’d be interested to see exactly how much more the Polaris would cost to be comparably equipped. I know the cost difference between my UForce 1000 and Ranger 1000 was several thousand less. Keep up the great work.
thanks man... and yes it cost thousands more to equip the sportsman like the cforce.
Here in Canada all CF motos whether atv or sxs come standard with signal lights, 4 way flashing and a horn.
I have a 2020 Uforce 800 with roof, windshield and "full" doors and it was 18k with taxes. My side by side also has diff lock and an override switch for it incase you need to go faster in diff lock which I don't know why you would.
I also got a wired winch remote and a Bluetooth wireless remote for my winch.
I've been trying to decide between the Cforce 600 and 500 mainly because I'm not sure if the 600 is actually quicker or not like is it worth the extra money on the performance side of things or is it better to just save and go for the 500? Since I've been seeing a couple videos and bits of information that suggests the 500 is really close to 600... if anyone could let me know I'd appreciate it
I got a smoking deal on a new 22 cfMoto 800xc and couldn't be happier , your videos and reviews is pretty much what swayed me to cfMoto, the price point is untouchable for the extras that are standard, my machine was 10,200 out the door, to get the sportsman 850 with winch handguards and power steering and alloy wheels was 13-15k and they have recall after recall on the newer Polaris s
Man that’s awesome!! I’m proud for you! Your going to enjoy that 800
My dad bought a brand new 23 cforce 500 the same week I bought my 800xc and he just turned 78 today and he's loving his cforce 500
No they don’t 🤣
The CF600 is better well I'm biased I love my tuned CF625 the acceleration is unbelievable 800kg tow capacity off road diff lock you really can't beat CF moto what you get for you money is fantastic I looked at everything on the market I really couldn't justify spending more money on another brand and getting less for it and to others not even operating as good
Absolutely true! You made a great choice
On the ATVs, I think the quality and looks on the Cf Moto is blowing Polaris and Can-Am out the water as soon as they get their performance up a little bit. They will be number one just like you guys oh and let’s not forget number one in price to😂
The only downside is that once big power and performance become a factor then shit starts to break, don’t matter what brand it is
Just purchased a CF moto 700 max , did a ton of research on Cam Am and Polaris but the road and price kept bringing me back to the CF Moto, also the looks and standard features, not looking to do any rough riding just trails and fun with my wife that's why I got a seater, all of them have parts made in chine so that argument is not valid anymore.
Cf moto is an excellent atv I work as a atv/utv mechanic in northern Michigan for every 1 honda or yamaha or cf moto I work on 10 polaris. They used to make a good product but have went down quality over the last 10 years
This channel is pure gold ✔️
The CF MOTO looks like a nice quad I just don't know about long-term care. Me personally I have a 2021 Grizzly and a 2021 Kodiak 700 and have had many Yamaha quads with no issues. But thats a good looking quad with lots of accessories from factory. Nice review. 😊
Yeah, my Uncle has a CForce 600. A couple years old and he's had to put over 2K into the transmission, his came with EPS, but that stopped working(so he just doesn't use it).
I took out the Cforce 850 and that thing was an absolute beast. Great, comfortable ride...but I just decided to go with the Sportsman. Ride Command(I have land up North and there are ~500 acres that zig-zag along the river and it's hard to keep track of where I am).
Driving my Uncles, it had plastic underneath, the skid plate broke off almost immediately.
It's still going strong, don't get me wrong. He pulls a lot of heavy shit out of the woods, up to his cabin, cuts it up. But I spent 2K more on a Polaris through a dealership. Got a 5 years warranty that covers everything(but obviously tires, break, shit like that.
I got the winch on, the 5-year warranty, and a '24 for 10,200 and the Cforce 600 was going to be ~8300 walking out the door. So I'm happy. That 5-year Polaris Warranty...maybe I don't use it, but I feel like it was worth it.
The WHOLE reason I got it was because nobody has lived on the land or used it since my Cousin went to College and moved away ~20 years ago. So we had...~20 miles of trails ALL over the place and those are pretty much gone now. So I'm trying to get it opened back up. So I wanted something I could beat up, put through the mud. Skid plate, the winch, and the warranty made it worth it.
Another great video by real talk powerspors.
Thank ya sir
Your welcome.
I love my 2023 CForce 600
It sure is a great ATV sir
What color did you get
@@RealTalkPowersportsI'm approved for my Zforce 950 HO EX with you guys, I'll come get one soon.
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Thanks for showing they can wheelie that's always the first thing I wanna know lol
Polaris shows a much smoother ride and who cares if it does a wheelie, they are work atvs. I had a sportsman 400ho for over 10 years and it didnt let me down once. I will take the polaris sportsman over any other atv. Dont care if it costs more, i depend on that machine on the farm
I’m sticking with the YAMAHA kodiak or grizzly, both are amazing
Awesome story. Thank you
There is a lot more pep in the CFMOTO than the Polaris. Perhaps it is because of the clutching and/or how the factory has it tuned? I've always liked the Polaris 570, but have always been worried about belts and knowing from friends who have owned them, Polaris does not have enough grease in any of the bearings in addition to their bushing being total garbage. There are several videos and posts dating back many years concerning this problem. Kits exists to remedy that known issue.
👍 yes I would like to do clutch work to both and tune both and run them again just for fun.. just see how much you can maximize both without doing any motorwork
Were i ride Va. Washington national forest i have noticed good last 3 yrs im seeing more & more CFMOTOS also CFMOTO side by sides. Riders say they really like them
I have a 2020 Uforce 800 and the only real complaint I have is it gets really warm inside the cab in the summer as the motor is almost sitting beside you because of having the dump box. But it's a really great machine, not too loud I can still talk to my passenger.
It is a little rough riding on trails, although to be fair it wasn't really made for trails it's a utility vehicle. But it brings deer and bear out real easy.
And in Canada they come standard with signal lights, 4 way flashing and a horn. I love the signal lights especially with some official trails here use back roads and highways to connect trails.
Machines are cool but that MF can ride
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Hahahaha yes he can lol Joel Crane is a bad man
Ol Boy was workin them bikes!
I had a 17 sportsman 570 and I found once it was passed the break in period it would wheelie in high gear. Still have to bounce it or load it up a bit but after break in it was waaaaaaay easier to wheelie in high.
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Dethatching the lawn I see. 😄 Seriously considering a G2 950 Sport because of your all's videos.
The man can ride an ATV!
which one has a more plush / softer ride where you don't get jostled as much?
I do have to give the edge to the sportsman on Plushness of the suspension
But the 600 is not a rough ride at all
@@RealTalkPowersports Just got a CanAM 700 and now looking to upgrade my CF600 and I'm torn between a Sportsman 570 Trail.
@@hdvidclipsbuy the Po not CF junk. No one beats the ride quality of a Sportsman.
What’s the difference in the 22 and 23 model for a cf 600 touring? And what do you think of the touring
There are quite a few differences between the 22 and '23 models, including, larger intake and exhaust valves, different cam profile, forged aluminium piston, larger diameter exhaust head and intake flter/airbox, new 112 pin ECU with fly-by-wire with two power modes. Also, different tyres, synthetic winch rope and new pattern handlebar grips.... think that is about it!!
..I forgot to add that the engine mount is 10mm lower to allow more anti vibration and the the chassis has been altered to diff mounts too, making for easier removal/installation of the differentials
I want me a cforce 600. Can’t wait to get my zforce paid for then it’s time for the cforce
Absolutely! You will love it..
Having both options is nice
Nice video, I have a can-am 650 with 40,000km on it.👍👍👍
I was total Polaris for the better part of twenty years. I bought a brand new CFMoto SxS last year and I’m not going back.
that's awesome to hear brother
I actually put money down on the Polaris but with the belt exhaust located by the rear driver’s tire I swapped to CFMOTO. Terrible location for belt exhaust. 680 flawless miles on CFMOTO 600
just bought a 2023 cforce 600 and i love it.........but, the suspension sucks. anyone know of good shocks that fit it ? (besides elka 1500.00 set, that is not out yet)
That's the only option right now
I own one thousand love it but that's six hundred is dope
Yes sir 💪
Excuse me, do you ship your CFMoto products (oil change kits, air filter, cleaners) overseas? as CFMoto user in Indonesia we don't have any access to those products, we have the dealer but they don't have the parts ready, so we need to look overseas for parts
Yes we sure do but we will have to work with you all on the shipping situation.
So if you can text the shop number at
(662) 438-6407 and include your name and that you spoke with me (Blake) and need assistance with shipping parts and oil change kits to Indonesia
7199 is before CF Moto adds all their feels. Dock fee, tariff fee, setup fee etc.
And Polaris has all of their fees as well and dealerships all have different ones
@@RealTalkPowersports Yup they do. Exactly why I paid $300 more for a 2023 570 Trail because my bank said $9400 for a CFM 600 was too much.
Does the 600 run cooler than the 500? Something I have struggled to find info on but I know u guys know from experience lol
Off course Polaris
Nice video keep up the good work fella
Yep did it again
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I imagine Polaris could be cheaper if they paid their employees fish heads and rice like cfmoto
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Awesome Video!
Thank ya
I just bought a Polaris but that dam C 4 is bad ass looks faster and more agile
Polar ATV😊😊😊😊😊😊
Vroooom! Way to run them suckers!👍✔️💪
Yes sir
Does the cf 600 have a clutch kit in the video?
No sir.. both units are completely stock
Please can you throw some light on the Cforce 625 touring and the Loncin XWolf 700L. XWolf is gaining a lot of attention but just want to get a real time review from professionals like you guys please can you recommend which 1 to go for ?
We do not have the XWolf in the USA
I see Evel Knievel is alive and well at the beginning of the video😀 or maybe that was Super Dave Osborne
Hahahaha 😂
Yes Joel is a wild man
Profi! 👍👍👍
The biggest issue I've heard wi th cfmoto is parts. Back order everything. So the forums say. Fix that issue and they will be unstoppable. I'm a fan of cfmoto, bang for your buck you can't beat it.
Isn’t the wheel base wider on the Polaris ?? A lil less tippy ??
It is 2inches wider
I got my 2023 polaris 570 with the winch and plow 6,999. They still have one in grass lake Michigan on Facebook market place.
I talked a dealer about a CFmoto c force 600 touring and they told me that it $8700 out the door then they told me it was almost $10000 that was including the doc fee and dealer prep and sales tax so I'm honestly thinking about possibly not doing business with them, but at the same time I'm thinking about trying to talk them down to $8600 I already talked to them about $8000 and they said no.
Man I wish you could make the drive to MSC.. it would probably be worth the trip and time to save the money with MSC
I wish the same to Sir I still have to register it in Maine though unfortunately because that's where I live.
I bought a new 600 Touring from St. Hilaire Motorsports in New Hampshire back in 21. It was the lowest OTD price out of all the dealers in New England because of no sales tax. I paid MSRP + $800 Freight + $150 Set-up + $100 doc fee. So $6899 + $1050 in fees = $7950 OTD. The current MSRP is $7699 and it looks like their fees haven't changed. So that would be $8750 OTD. So the $8700 OTD that you were quoted seems about right. If you have to pay Maine sales tax when you go to register it, figure another $400. You shouldn't be looking at any more than $9100 all said and done. I'd suggest calling a bunch of dealers and just ask for best OTD price. The add-on fees are BS but all the other brands are doing it too.
I just bought a 2024 force 1000 and paid $12,600 after taxes. The same machine through Polaris was almost $19k
Really the only place the cfmoto machines are lacking is in power, but in the real world I don't think it matters. I've always owned Honda machines, so I'm used to very low power numbers lol
How are the welds and durability of the frame. I have no doubt the engine and all of that’s good but are they cutting corners on the structure? Just wondering why they’re so much less then the competion
Nice vid…. Looking at a used 2021 570 Trail, the new body with the arched Aarms, but has 1700mi, $5k.
Or a 22 cfmoto 600 touring 2up 40miles on it, almost brand new. $6k. Is it a tough decision? Or do you already know?
try em both and see which one ya like better
I’ve got a 2022 1000 Overland with plow, mirrors, extra boxes, and 650 miles for $8500. Love the machine, just not enough time to ride 😁
Blake we need a Gen2 500 vs the updated 2023 600 now.
Yes sir we sure do.. we will do that soon
Dealers get huge kickbacks to help promote cf moto
Where is my kickback?
What about getting parts if needed for a CFMoto?
Main Street Cycle never has issues getting OEM or Upgraded aftermarket replacement parts if needed and has most on Hand ready to ship out if not a local customer.
The cfmoto is certainly capable but no one can be sure of its longevity! I'm already hearing stories about short lived engines and components!
I just bought a 2023CFMoto CForce 600. Lookiing at some of the specs I see this thing is way heavier than the other brands even the Suzuki 750 is only 700 lbs or so. Are the specs wrong for these machines or does the 800 actually weigh more than 1000 lbs while the 750 Kawasaki Brute weighs 725 lbs???
Can anyone please tell me how hot a 2023 cforce 600 should run ? Can’t find info anywhere
2 to 3 bars on the thermostat then when it hits the fourth bar, the fan will kick in And bring it back to two bars.
Is the cforce 600 or 800 reliable for snow plowing 99% of the time, or do these machines have major issues. Need info before I purchase this brand! Thanx.
There is no doubt your dollar goes much farther buying a CForce over the Polaris. And I feel the CForce is just a better rig in every way.
How is the ride of the cfmoto in comparison to the Polaris?? I know the CF used to ride a lot rougher.
The suspension has improved greatly on the CFMOTO ATVs.
No one mentions noise, vibration or smoothness. As a hunter and being in remote area's a machine that is quiet smooth and all day comfort is huge.
I'LL SUPPORT THE AMERICAN WORKDERS I RIDE POLARIS
Nice, looking to buy and making my comparison. Appreciate it👌🏾
Dónde puedo encontrar el asiento del pasajero de una cf600
Want a machine that last one year before having issue after issue get the polaris
Ive got a 570 EPS and wouldnt trade it for a C Moto if you gave me 3 grand more cash. The suspension in my book is amazing. Power steering which is adjustable I prefer medium works flawlessly. Dont care for fancy wheels prefer my steelies. Hand gaurds cool I can get some. Winch yup can put that on as well. Made in America CF Moto mmmmm Nope. Sportsman made in America um yup. Factory used to be near me now its Indian stuff no not that Indian stuff motor cycles ya hippie
I think it's important to compare equal price points. What Polaris can you build for the price of a CF Moto with EPS, a Winch, hand guards and upgraded tires? I think a CF Moto 600 2023 needs to be compared to a Polaris 450 MAYBE. Now how close in power are the detuned CF Motos to a Polaris 450 (499cc) ?
Just picked up a 23 cfmoto 500 for my son and love it so far. Can someone tell me why the 500 has arched front A arms but the 600 does not? Thanks for the videos.
Awesome man! And the New CFORCE 500 was redesigned Last Year and they new the desire of customers to have that.
So I imagine in the future when they redesign the 600 they will incorporate the arched arms... but I don't know the timeline
I owned both a Cfmoto x10 2023 and a Polaris sportsman 2010.
Compared to Polaris, the CF sucks, after 2 months of ownership I sold the CF (surprisingly, I sold it very quickly and profitably) and bought the Brp. For myself, I concluded that at the moment Chinese ATVs are just a pathetic parody of polaris and BRP. We'll see what happens in 10 years, but for now this is the case.
If you want a good polaris get a predator old predator 500 or outlaw they also had metal thumb throttles no issue with aarms falling apart or cv axles or fans destroying the radiators no clutching issues or belts blowing up no electrical issue and more they were the only good polaris machine, polaris might be able to make alot of power but they need a new quality department
How do they compare utility wise?
The sportsman 570 can carry 90 lbs on the front rack, 180 lbs on rear rack and tow 1350 lbs.
The cf moto 600 is rated for only 44 lbs, 88 lbs and 620 lbs towing capacity which is a big difference for folks who may want to use their machine for work or hunting.
But for all around trail riding for a weekend getaway the CF Moto definitely adds a lot of bang for your buck. Not sure why the capacity ratings are so low but are worth looking into.
How does this CF compare to something like a Hisun Tactic?
The Tactic offers a really competitive package also!
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How are the CFMoto's holding up ?
They are still holding their own
CFMoto seems so loud, like you are revving its guts out to move whereas the Sportsman sounds more enjoyable to ride. I guess it's a clutch issue but after 20 years of making them you'd think they could buy a competitors atv and dissect it. All the stuff they come with is great but not if you can't stand to ride it. I want to buy one but can't get over that. I'm scared of Polaris even though I love their comfort. I guess King Quad or Brute Force it is.
Here's an idea for your next video you should do a comparison on a 2017 models Polaris sportsman 450 ho efi and the cf Moto
I kinda wish that cf moto would make single seat 800 atleast
They may finally do that in the next 2 years...
Out of the 2 cf moto is more reliable than Polaris fun aspect cf moto quality cf moto all around junk Polaris but Honda is still top of the line for long life
Please Please make a video
Why my lights won't turn off while running. 2021500s
Which is better? CFMOTO looks great sounded better and etc. engine seems stronger
The Hunter edition in Europe has bars and winches with led-lights and eps and more
Zhejiang Chunfeng Power Co., Ltd.,[a] commonly known by its trade name CFMOTO,[b] is a Chinese manufacturer of engines, motorcycles, all-terrain vehicles, quadricycles, quads, and yachts headquartered in Hangzhou, Zhejiang, China.
Is the seat on the cfmoto really small? It looks like it, which would be a deal breaker for me. Doesn’t look like you could even take your kid riding with you (yes I know neither is technically a 2-seater, but you know…). Much more important to me personally than aluminum wheels and LED lights.
Still, looks like a nice machine…if it’s durable.