Well it’s mostly good players in the game playing there more people that already play the game than new people playing the game And I using that logic I guess Arsenal is dying?
I agree with the reload coming out, if your a game dev your always going to get hate no matter what but at arsenals current state what can possibly go wrong, Im a arsenal trick shot youtuber im only level 449 and atm there aren't many vid ideas i have. Id love if they came out with trading i think a lot of people would.
I think arsenal is dying bc of the egotistical sweaty players that fill up like 70% of arsenal. Also can’t play the game without finding at least one hacker every 5-10 servers
i use to play this game so much and i was such a big fan back in 2019 and playing until around begging of 2023 and its sad to see that this game is dying
awesome video. Though a resurgence of a roblox game is pretty rare, if arsenal does die, its hard for any of us to switch games because we are such small channels.
I accept Arsenal is dead or dying at this point :/. It’s so obvious at this point and it actually sucks to finally see it. The people who spoke out about arsenal or Arsenal: Reloaded were right all along. I never expected Arsenal to go below 15K Players but it went below 5k Players. Arsenal doesn’t even get 10K players a week….
It's shocking because people voted for it to win the Innovation Awards and people are still quitting. The last time it got over 10k players was in The Classic event, but that was only because of the event that people decided to play.
Really cool video. Arsenal's player count is hitting new lows every day (its gonna prob hit a new one tmrw) and it's just really sad to see. I've played this game for more than 4 years and i'm very passionate about it; the devs talk and talk but when it comes to actually do stuff then it's null and void. All of the points in the vid are solid and should be definitely considered, cuz we're all tired to see the same problems every time. For now, all we can do is hope and see if the situation gets better.
I feel mobile has been neglected. There’s many bugs like your buttons resetting size when you try to change the positioning and you can’t even turn your screen while shooting. That’s essential to track and kill people. We don’t have crouch either. I also feel like we should have some sort of way to adjust your sens. I feel like platforms other than pc is never rlly brought up since I’ve never seen a popular xbox player or a popular mobile player that still plays. Even if a large part of arsenal players are on pc, that doesn’t mean other platforms don’t exist and that they have their own problems and bugs. Just a minor thing but Idk what gamemode is playing because the performance stats overlaps with the gamemode name for some reason. Thank for tuning into my rant.
I mean Ayron is the popular Xbox player in arsenal while gelplayz is the popular mobile player in arsenal, btw I know Gelplayz quit arsenal but tbh she is the still the most iconic mobile players for me. Been watching her after I discovered Ayron around mid 2019
@@B1udge0nRiffo1la I think ayron’s the first xbox player I’ve seen do arsenal on yt. Xbox generally isn’t talked about too much imo. Gelplayz is forever iconic tho
Fr, insane vid, all you said was real and I think it may help arsenal to revive. I hope devs will just see your vid so they may think of what you suggested. Anyway very good vid, nice propositions, and well thanks ^^
Imo they should make the events easier, like the nights edge event. I need to get like 3 different badges outside of arsenal to get it, as it wasnt already hard without getting the badges. Also they should update more often
8sty i do love your point i really hate seeing arsenal die it have potential and it hurts seeing them wasting such a good game I don't hate arsenal i don't want to retire i love it but the dev's can do stuff to make the game more fun I love arsenal and i'll always be a fan no matter what.
Tbh 8sty i agree with you. The only problem is that rolve or developers doesnt really care about the updates for players and mainly focuses on visits and the current arsenal is so bad that its full of exploiters and sweaty ahh player. I wish like we could have the og arsenal from 2019-2021. Also, the cc had to quit arsenal due to boredom yk and that may also lead to the cause of less players in arsenal.
I Highly Agree with what you said , as someone who has been playing Arsenal since they've won the bloxy awards , the game really died down after.. my intention to playing ARSENAL Is literally just to flex OLD Skins that are no longer obtainable. And that's really it i agree with trading 100% and with more promotion the game can get bigger. You've pointed out some VIP things that could change arsenal for the better. Hope the devs can see this video and take Action about the situation.
Tbh i don’t think a2 or even updates will ever make arsenal has big as it was back in 2020, I mean I do hope it will but we also gotta be realistic, this game is still imo 100% better then rivals and any shooter game in Roblox, a2 has been promised for over 4 years now, and all we got was 2 testings, and those testing were only gameplay as in the physics of the gameplay and ui, there was not changes at all apart from that , I agree rolve need to learn how to market there game because right now only people who are active in the arsenal community will know about updates and when there gonna come out. But I’ll give rolve this, they camping’s/ events for Roblox events were always peak, and everyone who not only just players arsenal but the entire Roblox community all agrees that arsenal all ways makes the best events, in the future I hope they communicate more about updates and what they wanna add in the game. For updates they need to know that having a skin and map with a battle pass update will never ever save the game or create any new content for creators and players, hopefully a2 changes that, but still who knows, I can yap and yap more about this but ig I’ll leave the rest of my yap for another time , great video btw 8sty, hopefully rolve (xonae and Krystal) watch this video and read most of these comments. Cause in the end we all love the game and all want a good future for it!
i remember back in 2020 i was a huge fan of arsenal that i would play it instead of focusing on my online classes, going back to playing it this year was such a disappointment
I've been playing for 2+ years, I've also been noticing that it's been slowly falling off the charts. It kind of makes me sad since this is one of my favorite games, but I also think that the devs should update it more.
in my opinion rolve should recreate Arsenal On Steam it would be perfect no performance bugs or roblox servers which bug all the time he could recreate a whole new game and keep the roblox style a little but it could be good in my opinion he could have be a chance to revive the game. I don't see how they can revive the game now. I wish them good luck and I will always support my childhood game.
I miss the updates where you could get new guns and maps like every month and new gamemodes. I loved the events and Easter eggs but now it seems so dry. It seems that nobody has any ideas and it's so sad that arsenal is going down this hole.
I just realized how long it has been since 2020, the year where I actually started playing arsenal a lot. It just intertwines with my childhood, Arsenal was a big part of the games area of my life, and it still is.
Although I haven’t watched the video yet, it is basically true that Arsenal is dying. Last year had okay updates, Arsenal was still kind of fine in terms of player count (10k-20k). The lack of updates this year definitely didn’t help for the game. The repetitiveness of the battlepass and barely any new content except for some map and cosmetic updates that I can remember from the top of my head. The Roblox event updates did kind of add a lot but it wasn’t enough to keep the game going. It really sucks to see the game I’ve been playing for years to be in this current state.
Ima leave my opinion here. First of all, really nice video ! Explains things well and proposes nice solutions. - Reloaded release: Should release "fast", as said by Excitable, but has to be when devs have time in front of them. If released, it HAS to include an in-game poll feature to be able to, from a multiple choice question, get people's feedback on options. Like a button on main menu that shows all feedback you can answer to, and idk maybe give a skin/battlebucks rewards for the feedback given as it really helps. Only should be accessible once played enough of the game tho, else bots would spam it. Having it a multiple choice question makes it really easier to answer and prevents trolls or message like "its just bad" who makes no sense and aren't constructive at all. - Trading: if it is here, should be really strict on what can/can't be traded (ex: CC skins / milestone skins). Scam can be really lowered by adding a cooldown every value change in the trade. - Remove maze from Night's End event once completed: Yes and no: it gives a real rarity for the skin. However, event should be balanced for other platforms that PC, as players says that it's almost impossible on mobile/console. - Dev skins: should only be added once reloaded/main game has gotten back a pretty "stable" player base, to really generate a hype about it and not have like 10k copies that wont even be used by all players - Advertising: Totally with you on this. From a new Roblox player searching for games to play, the current Arsenal logo doesn't give any real hype about playing the game, and you probably will choose another one to play. Like, you don't even have players fighting in it, I think that's the main thing to keep inside ! However, the images are absolutely georgous, can't deny that. General opinion: Reloaded is the logical next big thing to happen to Arsenal for me: it will give a fresh impression of the game. As Excitable said, people won't like it at first; because they are too used to playing the original game. However, they will make slowly a new idea of the game, and leaving it open for more that a testing phase WILL end up making it subject to be correctly updated with real feedback, as I said earlier in the comment. As a bonus, some time ago, xonae said Night's End will pass on to Reloaded, which IS a good thing, as it will totally get the players to play it, bringing nostalgia of the event, and some new players discovering it. To be honest, getting this research vibe I personally experienced with the community on Rogue event with hidden skin & gun skin was extremely gun. But again, you need a nice player base to make it. Also, Arsenal has a really high potential behind the basic shooter game. Operation: Infiltration is an insane gamemode, its so cool ! And it's not pvp-based, which leaves place for a lot of updates in the game that dev can do, and do right. Xonae mentionned a "Super Secret Technology" some time ago and it is still a big subject today, with (iirc) as goal to hit hackers from the root, with something that's never been done on Roblox before. I believe in it because xonae is a goat when it comes to development, as we know from his history of ban waves, RAC updates and bug fixes (I believe). A lot is already on xonae's TO-DO list, and maybe even some in this message idk. Let me know if you have any thoughts about my opinion, like agrees/disagrees: can be nice to get a friendly debate over things and maybe transfer results to devs with all of the pros/cons given ! Thanks for taking the time to read all of the message, it's a bit long but I think that's all I have to say. I tried to be as constructive as possible. Apologies for any bad english, I'm french.
I'll never forget playing arsenal every single day for hours from 2019 to 2021. I was on another level, such a shame to see this game doing so poorly. Thank you for staying loyal to arsenal and continuing to be an arsenal creator
Arsenal also needs an aggressive AFK kicking system. There are so many dead-end servers that waste potential time, space and player enjoyment because half of the server is sitting in the main menu.
Another point I'd like to make is that this game desperately needs an autobalance system. Servers turn into lopsided stompfests so often nowadays. If a server can't be deemed completely worthless at first sight due to hacking, it's often secondarily due to imbalanced teams. Taking the occurrence of both of these into account, it makes the value of almost every server I join immediately plummet.
Just like Jailbreak, i had fun playing the glory days of Arsenal. I'm sure the game is still fun for new players, but i can't seem to enjoy playing this game anymore. I've had so many good memories playing, and it's undoubtedly one of the best ROBLOX experiences I will always remember :D
Every game gets there og updates but arsenal doesnt it is suck but it be cool if they add some old events for players cuz new player are commeting and saying how do get that skin or the dev swords and hackers are just making people tired and quit arsenal i think this is the problema
What's worse is when they released the 2024 Halloween update this year. There was no player peak from the update. And instead, it counited to gain less than 5k players from the update.
Thank you for making this video, they really need to see this as what ur saying can be used as tips on how to do get the game up again, if they could do more updates and work more on the advertising of the game and work more on basically everything then the game could be so good cause the potential that arsenal has to be ome popular is pretty good
I mean I am not surprised, I saw this with phantom forces but then one of my favourite pf yters (paradox poke) made a video on arsenal and I would play it but literally after like 2 years I would just not play since it got stale. I tried to play arsenal again but the maps are unrecognisable so I would say it's even difficult to come back for most players
Trading is literally a necessity for the game. I've missed WAY too many rare skins and other stuff which I wish I could've gotten, and because I can't trade for them, that just makes it a whole lot more painful.
For the past years I haven't seen any game collaborations on other popular games nor new quest since The Night's End is the last quest Rolve released, the lack of content and Arsenal near unplayable due to sweats and cheaters Honestly they should make more quest event hidden specific map to create more lore on that map in general take it for example Lumberhouse , a lot of potential to make a quest of that map Note: Never forget Rainster (former Arsenal Mod) he silently left Arsenal and RUclips all in all he also address that Arsenal is slowly dying (and it's true) Edit:I love the old events they did in the past other than Battlepass..
It is. I haven’t played Arsenal for a long time now (also since because I haven’t been using the pc) My siblings got into Rivals (which kinda annoyed me)
this games is full of hackers that are egostic and those sweats (who are usually eboys and egirls who don't have a life ) these are some factors that make the games not fun to play . i haven't been able to join a decent server without a hacker or tryhard
honestly, i feel like its player count goes down and up, only reason most people are quitting is hackers and tryhards ngl im still here and i honestly dont have a problem with this because so far, its been nearly the same for what feels like forever
8sty idk if iam saying is a good point to this or not can't they bring back the nights edge event for Dev melees and stuff back it might also make alot more people to come back and get the game populated and arsenal might get to top back and iam saying this because u can see the difference in the time when there was these events and also when they stop this event people quit and study ia. Saying this not only I can obtain like let people obtain it and make the game back to popular to top I hope they understand this
what i think would be best for rolve is to A: give up reloaded, and just add some of those features into the original game. NO ONE is going to play reloaded, because it abandons all that arsenal is. B: I think they should just focus on making a new game. If they do it right, they could have another huge success like they did with counter blox and then arsenal. I love arsenal, but it might be a lost cause. anyway, i really like this video.
They could also just interlock the two games together (Arsenal and Arsenal: Reloaded) to carry across your progress (which includes skins, melees, etc.) into both games, while still using the new engine and not the one that regular Arsenal runs on. I think this would prove for a more fun experience while also guaranteeing that you're not forced to play standard Arsenal or Arsenal: Reloaded and restart from scratch on either game. It'll also show you that it doesn't matter which version you play, just so long as you enjoy it, that's all that matters.
I know I’m late but they can’t add stuff from arsenal 2 to arsenal 1. **(And that’s pretty much why arsenal 2 is being made, so they can add stuff that arsenal 1 can’t have. Up to date code, new boss fights, features and so on)** Arsenal 1s code right now is now bad that if they tried to add something from arsenal 2 to arsenal 1, it would break the game. Like for example Hackula broke the game so they had to remove the mode from arsenal 1 and (probably) won’t come back till arsenal 2.
bro all i want from arsenal is for them to unban my friend man i really missed him he legit abandoned me and my friends after he got banned and went in some depression arc or something he might be ban evading
Ik I haven’t watched the video yet but… I don’t really think that Arsenal is dead, it’s mostly due to people being at school or smth. Thats just overall in my opinion.
I think a bit of the problem is that people are at school and not playing so the player count is lower but it doesn’t increase the count by a lot. Arsenal is dying/already dead.
I think that there are too many exploiters nowadays..if u play at least an hour per server u will encounter an exploiter in each server u join and it ruins the fun
If I could identify any problem Arsenal has other than cheaters being in every other server, it's the unfair parity between mobile, gamepad, and PC players. Mobile and gamepad users sometimes seem to be granted a half-second more of reaction time than me regardless of my connectivity status. In addition, they're granted far easier capability to hit headshots at any range or angle regardless of difficulty. FPS games are not meant to be played on a phone or tablet. I'm okay with gamepad players, but the fact that they get Aim Assist is RIDICULOUS when controllers are on-par with mouse+keyboard in terms of how fitting it is for FPS gaming. I'm tired of competing against people playing an objectively easier version of the game.
hmmm im wondering if reloaded is released will players data from original arsenal be transferred to the new game, or people will have to start all over again
Simple Answer: Yes Unsimple Answer: Even though i still like arsenal. - The movement is outdated - Way too many hackers - So many absolutely shitty weapons in comp - Not Enough ptw - Too repetitive - Not good enough rewards - Maps are usualy too big - Rivals exists Theres too much for me to list
Arsenal is dying cuz of too many exploiters and ngl even if u get one two or even 100s of them banned they'll just get another acc and continue then if you'd take a look at Roblox then rn Roblox has many MANY battle ground games like strongest battle ground, legends battle ground and more and many of my friends have started playing those games i haven't quit it one of the reason why I'm not gonna quit is I'm probably the highest lvl mobile player?(Idk i play on a one plus Nord mobile for over two years and reached lvl 483)
8sty how are you sympathetic of this game if you still hate some of the game mechanics of Arsenal!? (Like raycast failed or dead upon shot for examples)
raycast failed is just a ping issue not a mechanic but I actually think dead upon is most of the time good. (except when someone random kills u) I've played games without dead upon before and you end up dying so much more often
@@LukeMP2008 no, not true,many players still played, if Tanqr quit it doesn't mean that everyone quit, there were still atleast 20k players in 2021 and in 2022-23 it was something 15 but now it's lesser than that
@@srai.4233 When I say dead I'm referring to summer 2021 being the end of arsenal's golden age, not the active player count. Not only was it the year when all the big youtubers quit, but it was also the year when updates started to completely lose their charm. The active player count that year was perfectly fine.
Please comment your opinions, I'd love to have a discussion with you guys about this. I'll try reply to as many comments as I can.
only here for the face reveal but good video as always
Well it’s mostly good players in the game playing
there more people that already play the game than new people playing the game
And I using that logic I guess Arsenal is dying?
@@teptepchu gonna be waiting a while lol
I agree with the reload coming out, if your a game dev your always going to get hate no matter what but at arsenals current state what can possibly go wrong, Im a arsenal trick shot youtuber im only level 449 and atm there aren't many vid ideas i have. Id love if they came out with trading i think a lot of people would.
I think arsenal is dying bc of the egotistical sweaty players that fill up like 70% of arsenal. Also can’t play the game without finding at least one hacker every 5-10 servers
I remember the good old days of Arsenal in 2021.
Same but for me has to be 2019 tbh...
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@@B1udge0nRiffo1la 2018 for me 😭
Man those were the times...
2020 for me.
i use to play this game so much and i was such a big fan back in 2019 and playing until around begging of 2023 and its sad to see that this game is dying
awesome video. Though a resurgence of a roblox game is pretty rare, if arsenal does die, its hard for any of us to switch games because we are such small channels.
I accept Arsenal is dead or dying at this point :/. It’s so obvious at this point and it actually sucks to finally see it. The people who spoke out about arsenal or Arsenal: Reloaded were right all along. I never expected Arsenal to go below 15K Players but it went below 5k Players. Arsenal doesn’t even get 10K players a week….
Yeah I never would have expected the game to get this low. I think we all thought arsenal was always gonna be the big fps game on roblox.
It's shocking because people voted for it to win the Innovation Awards and people are still quitting. The last time it got over 10k players was in The Classic event, but that was only because of the event that people decided to play.
really well made video 8sty and i agree with everything you say vro
thank vro pickle
fr bro
Really cool video. Arsenal's player count is hitting new lows every day (its gonna prob hit a new one tmrw) and it's just really sad to see. I've played this game for more than 4 years and i'm very passionate about it; the devs talk and talk but when it comes to actually do stuff then it's null and void. All of the points in the vid are solid and should be definitely considered, cuz we're all tired to see the same problems every time. For now, all we can do is hope and see if the situation gets better.
DUDE I was thinking about arsenal zombies like yesterday TY for bringing it up
I feel mobile has been neglected. There’s many bugs like your buttons resetting size when you try to change the positioning and you can’t even turn your screen while shooting. That’s essential to track and kill people. We don’t have crouch either. I also feel like we should have some sort of way to adjust your sens. I feel like platforms other than pc is never rlly brought up since I’ve never seen a popular xbox player or a popular mobile player that still plays. Even if a large part of arsenal players are on pc, that doesn’t mean other platforms don’t exist and that they have their own problems and bugs.
Just a minor thing but Idk what gamemode is playing because the performance stats overlaps with the gamemode name for some reason.
Thank for tuning into my rant.
I mean Ayron is the popular Xbox player in arsenal while gelplayz is the popular mobile player in arsenal, btw I know Gelplayz quit arsenal but tbh she is the still the most iconic mobile players for me. Been watching her after I discovered Ayron around mid 2019
@@B1udge0nRiffo1la I think ayron’s the first xbox player I’ve seen do arsenal on yt. Xbox generally isn’t talked about too much imo. Gelplayz is forever iconic tho
Fr, insane vid, all you said was real and I think it may help arsenal to revive. I hope devs will just see your vid so they may think of what you suggested. Anyway very good vid, nice propositions, and well thanks ^^
If the devs do nothing the game will being desert one day
Imo they should make the events easier, like the nights edge event. I need to get like 3 different badges outside of arsenal to get it, as it wasnt already hard without getting the badges. Also they should update more often
8sty i do love your point i really hate seeing arsenal die it have potential and it hurts seeing them wasting such a good game I don't hate arsenal i don't want to retire i love it but the dev's can do stuff to make the game more fun I love arsenal and i'll always be a fan no matter what.
Tbh 8sty i agree with you. The only problem is that rolve or developers doesnt really care about the updates for players and mainly focuses on visits and the current arsenal is so bad that its full of exploiters and sweaty ahh player. I wish like we could have the og arsenal from 2019-2021. Also, the cc had to quit arsenal due to boredom yk and that may also lead to the cause of less players in arsenal.
I Highly Agree with what you said , as someone who has been playing Arsenal since they've won the bloxy awards , the game really died down after.. my intention to playing ARSENAL Is literally just to flex OLD Skins that are no longer obtainable. And that's really it i agree with trading 100% and with more promotion the game can get bigger. You've pointed out some VIP things that could change arsenal for the better. Hope the devs can see this video and take Action about the situation.
4:08 Ryan Aston mentioned 🔥🔥🔥
On a real though this video is what the devs need, sort it out!
Tbh i don’t think a2 or even updates will ever make arsenal has big as it was back in 2020, I mean I do hope it will but we also gotta be realistic, this game is still imo 100% better then rivals and any shooter game in Roblox, a2 has been promised for over 4 years now, and all we got was 2 testings, and those testing were only gameplay as in the physics of the gameplay and ui, there was not changes at all apart from that , I agree rolve need to learn how to market there game because right now only people who are active in the arsenal community will know about updates and when there gonna come out. But I’ll give rolve this, they camping’s/ events for Roblox events were always peak, and everyone who not only just players arsenal but the entire Roblox community all agrees that arsenal all ways makes the best events, in the future I hope they communicate more about updates and what they wanna add in the game. For updates they need to know that having a skin and map with a battle pass update will never ever save the game or create any new content for creators and players, hopefully a2 changes that, but still who knows, I can yap and yap more about this but ig I’ll leave the rest of my yap for another time , great video btw 8sty, hopefully rolve (xonae and Krystal) watch this video and read most of these comments. Cause in the end we all love the game and all want a good future for it!
=a big play can also be the sweats in the game due to there being very less players
i remember back in 2020 i was a huge fan of arsenal that i would play it instead of focusing on my online classes, going back to playing it this year was such a disappointment
I've been playing for 2+ years, I've also been noticing that it's been slowly falling off the charts. It kind of makes me sad since this is one of my favorite games, but I also think that the devs should update it more.
sure, the old gun sounds were clunky, but that's what was iconic
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Yea love the old gun sounds they were so iconic! until... they changed the sounds in summer 2021 :/
explained why i always get abt 10k-20k ping when i join
w vid bro
i enjoyed
i think we really need custom crosshairs and some cat skins and melee and cc
in my opinion rolve should recreate Arsenal On Steam it would be perfect no performance bugs or roblox servers which bug all the time he could recreate a whole new game and keep the roblox style a little but it could be good in my opinion he could have be a chance to revive the game. I don't see how they can revive the game now. I wish them good luck and I will always support my childhood game.
Idk why but I feel like 8sty is a cat person idk why and also completely agree with everything on this video especially the outline on free for all
I miss the updates where you could get new guns and maps like every month and new gamemodes. I loved the events and Easter eggs but now it seems so dry. It seems that nobody has any ideas and it's so sad that arsenal is going down this hole.
And what is happening to ARSENAL will happened with RIVALS I like so much ARSENAL but it’s boring the game never will be like before 😢
Its insane how the most viewed arsenal video from this year was by TanqR where even he said that the game has been the same game for 3 years
Arsenal could be a better game if they just fixed movement a bit and worked on a bit more guns.
It's dying, but is it dead? No...
Pretty much atm
they should bring back stuffs from 2020, old gun sounds, too much hackers, trash anticheat (my friend just got banned for no reason)
I 100% agree with readding the gun sounds.
It’s gonna be hard for games to revive but games can revive
Proof?
Murder mystery 2 it got revived in player counts so many times
I just realized how long it has been since 2020, the year where I actually started playing arsenal a lot. It just intertwines with my childhood, Arsenal was a big part of the games area of my life, and it still is.
Although I haven’t watched the video yet, it is basically true that Arsenal is dying. Last year had okay updates, Arsenal was still kind of fine in terms of player count (10k-20k). The lack of updates this year definitely didn’t help for the game. The repetitiveness of the battlepass and barely any new content except for some map and cosmetic updates that I can remember from the top of my head. The Roblox event updates did kind of add a lot but it wasn’t enough to keep the game going. It really sucks to see the game I’ve been playing for years to be in this current state.
Ima leave my opinion here.
First of all, really nice video ! Explains things well and proposes nice solutions.
- Reloaded release: Should release "fast", as said by Excitable, but has to be when devs have time in front of them. If released, it HAS to include an in-game poll feature to be able to, from a multiple choice question, get people's feedback on options. Like a button on main menu that shows all feedback you can answer to, and idk maybe give a skin/battlebucks rewards for the feedback given as it really helps. Only should be accessible once played enough of the game tho, else bots would spam it. Having it a multiple choice question makes it really easier to answer and prevents trolls or message like "its just bad" who makes no sense and aren't constructive at all.
- Trading: if it is here, should be really strict on what can/can't be traded (ex: CC skins / milestone skins). Scam can be really lowered by adding a cooldown every value change in the trade.
- Remove maze from Night's End event once completed: Yes and no: it gives a real rarity for the skin. However, event should be balanced for other platforms that PC, as players says that it's almost impossible on mobile/console.
- Dev skins: should only be added once reloaded/main game has gotten back a pretty "stable" player base, to really generate a hype about it and not have like 10k copies that wont even be used by all players
- Advertising: Totally with you on this. From a new Roblox player searching for games to play, the current Arsenal logo doesn't give any real hype about playing the game, and you probably will choose another one to play. Like, you don't even have players fighting in it, I think that's the main thing to keep inside ! However, the images are absolutely georgous, can't deny that.
General opinion: Reloaded is the logical next big thing to happen to Arsenal for me: it will give a fresh impression of the game. As Excitable said, people won't like it at first; because they are too used to playing the original game. However, they will make slowly a new idea of the game, and leaving it open for more that a testing phase WILL end up making it subject to be correctly updated with real feedback, as I said earlier in the comment. As a bonus, some time ago, xonae said Night's End will pass on to Reloaded, which IS a good thing, as it will totally get the players to play it, bringing nostalgia of the event, and some new players discovering it. To be honest, getting this research vibe I personally experienced with the community on Rogue event with hidden skin & gun skin was extremely gun. But again, you need a nice player base to make it.
Also, Arsenal has a really high potential behind the basic shooter game. Operation: Infiltration is an insane gamemode, its so cool ! And it's not pvp-based, which leaves place for a lot of updates in the game that dev can do, and do right.
Xonae mentionned a "Super Secret Technology" some time ago and it is still a big subject today, with (iirc) as goal to hit hackers from the root, with something that's never been done on Roblox before. I believe in it because xonae is a goat when it comes to development, as we know from his history of ban waves, RAC updates and bug fixes (I believe).
A lot is already on xonae's TO-DO list, and maybe even some in this message idk. Let me know if you have any thoughts about my opinion, like agrees/disagrees: can be nice to get a friendly debate over things and maybe transfer results to devs with all of the pros/cons given !
Thanks for taking the time to read all of the message, it's a bit long but I think that's all I have to say. I tried to be as constructive as possible. Apologies for any bad english, I'm french.
I'll never forget playing arsenal every single day for hours from 2019 to 2021. I was on another level, such a shame to see this game doing so poorly. Thank you for staying loyal to arsenal and continuing to be an arsenal creator
Arsenal also needs an aggressive AFK kicking system. There are so many dead-end servers that waste potential time, space and player enjoyment because half of the server is sitting in the main menu.
One thing that we need is rank game mode
And that Will do so new players Will play more bc its not super hard
Cheaters are the biggest problem
Yeah, xonae says he has a good anti cheater solution coming soon but I don't know when it'll be out or if it'll even be out any time soon
I got bannes for no reason those thing sucks i just played i joined a server and i got banned @8sty
anti cheater solution more like anti player solution
hacker, toxic player and admin command bug in the past lead to the end of Arsenal😢
Another point I'd like to make is that this game desperately needs an autobalance system. Servers turn into lopsided stompfests so often nowadays. If a server can't be deemed completely worthless at first sight due to hacking, it's often secondarily due to imbalanced teams. Taking the occurrence of both of these into account, it makes the value of almost every server I join immediately plummet.
Prob they were doing their homework or some pause in 1v1s/2v2s
Just like Jailbreak, i had fun playing the glory days of Arsenal. I'm sure the game is still fun for new players, but i can't seem to enjoy playing this game anymore. I've had so many good memories playing, and it's undoubtedly one of the best ROBLOX experiences I will always remember :D
they made their bag and left, i can respect it
Every game gets there og updates but arsenal doesnt it is suck but it be cool if they add some old events for players cuz new player are commeting and saying how do get that skin or the dev swords and hackers are just making people tired and quit arsenal i think this is the problema
3:27 Soo soo true, TanqR literally came back to arsenal around the summer of 2024 and said it was the same game it was 3 years ago…
lack of competition during arsenals peak slowly killed it
What's worse is when they released the 2024 Halloween update this year. There was no player peak from the update. And instead, it counited to gain less than 5k players from the update.
Thank you for making this video, they really need to see this as what ur saying can be used as tips on how to do get the game up again, if they could do more updates and work more on the advertising of the game and work more on basically everything then the game could be so good cause the potential that arsenal has to be ome popular is pretty good
I mean I am not surprised, I saw this with phantom forces but then one of my favourite pf yters (paradox poke) made a video on arsenal and I would play it but literally after like 2 years I would just not play since it got stale. I tried to play arsenal again but the maps are unrecognisable so I would say it's even difficult to come back for most players
Trading is literally a necessity for the game. I've missed WAY too many rare skins and other stuff which I wish I could've gotten, and because I can't trade for them, that just makes it a whole lot more painful.
its honestly so sad to see the game slowly dying, but hey it is what it is unfortunately
For an idea of arsenal is more customizable features like the old gui, the font was 8 bit from the past, for ex.
I love playing it now, I just hate it because so many kids are hacking and when I say it they say "its 2024 kid"
Zombies would have fit so well with this year's halloween update. In the thumbails there is one showing zombies.
For the past years I haven't seen any game collaborations on other popular games nor new quest since The Night's End is the last quest Rolve released, the lack of content and Arsenal near unplayable due to sweats and cheaters
Honestly they should make more quest event hidden specific map to create more lore on that map in general take it for example Lumberhouse , a lot of potential to make a quest of that map
Note: Never forget Rainster (former Arsenal Mod) he silently left Arsenal and RUclips all in all he also address that Arsenal is slowly dying (and it's true)
Edit:I love the old events they did in the past other than Battlepass..
i might be mistaken but, cant you just put the a2 engine into the current arsenal?
The issue is imo that they removed fan favorite maps that play very fast for big new maps
It is. I haven’t played Arsenal for a long time now (also since because I haven’t been using the pc)
My siblings got into Rivals (which kinda annoyed me)
this games is full of hackers that are egostic and those sweats (who are usually eboys and egirls who don't have a life )
these are some factors that make the games not fun to play . i haven't been able to join a decent server without a hacker or tryhard
Fr, arsenal might even hit 0 players without roblox crashing one day and fully die off like the other games.
honestly, i feel like its player count goes down and up, only reason most people are quitting is hackers and tryhards ngl
im still here and i honestly dont have a problem with this because so far, its been nearly the same for what feels like forever
Personally, I think Arsenal is dead. Its at its lowest rn
Yeah just this morning it hit 3,027 players, sadly I finished the video yesterday so I couldn't include that
8sty idk if iam saying is a good point to this or not can't they bring back the nights edge event for Dev melees and stuff back it might also make alot more people to come back and get the game populated and arsenal might get to top back and iam saying this because u can see the difference in the time when there was these events and also when they stop this event people quit and study ia. Saying this not only I can obtain like let people obtain it and make the game back to popular to top I hope they understand this
what i think would be best for rolve is to A: give up reloaded, and just add some of those features into the original game. NO ONE is going to play reloaded, because it abandons all that arsenal is. B: I think they should just focus on making a new game. If they do it right, they could have another huge success like they did with counter blox and then arsenal. I love arsenal, but it might be a lost cause. anyway, i really like this video.
They could also just interlock the two games together (Arsenal and Arsenal: Reloaded) to carry across your progress (which includes skins, melees, etc.) into both games, while still using the new engine and not the one that regular Arsenal runs on. I think this would prove for a more fun experience while also guaranteeing that you're not forced to play standard Arsenal or Arsenal: Reloaded and restart from scratch on either game. It'll also show you that it doesn't matter which version you play, just so long as you enjoy it, that's all that matters.
I know I’m late but they can’t add stuff from arsenal 2 to arsenal 1. **(And that’s pretty much why arsenal 2 is being made, so they can add stuff that arsenal 1 can’t have. Up to date code, new boss fights, features and so on)** Arsenal 1s code right now is now bad that if they tried to add something from arsenal 2 to arsenal 1, it would break the game. Like for example Hackula broke the game so they had to remove the mode from arsenal 1 and (probably) won’t come back till arsenal 2.
I played this game since 2021. Its sad to see this game dying 😔
They are really scared to release arsenal reloaded and they are making small updates on arsenal
bro i will never forget my jounery from arsenal 2021-2023
If arsenal still going low ill still play its one of my fav games. Even when like chaseroony,John roblox and even tanqr quit. Im still playing it,
bro all i want from arsenal is for them to unban my friend man i really missed him
he legit abandoned me and my friends after he got banned and went in some depression arc or something
he might be ban evading
you just put me on to rivals lol I haven't played roblox in a while since I'm older, all I knew was arsenal
its alright, i prefer the large player gun game, and its hella laggy
I didn’t have time to watch the vid fully I’m currently out of town. But Rolve should move to rivals and help with the cheaters, updates, and any bugs
Ik I haven’t watched the video yet but…
I don’t really think that Arsenal is dead, it’s mostly due to people being at school or smth. Thats just overall in my opinion.
feels dead with only 5K to 7K players as of November 2024..
I think a bit of the problem is that people are at school and not playing so the player count is lower but it doesn’t increase the count by a lot.
Arsenal is dying/already dead.
Pretty much everything covered in my video lol
I think that there are too many exploiters nowadays..if u play at least an hour per server u will encounter an exploiter in each server u join and it ruins the fun
If I could identify any problem Arsenal has other than cheaters being in every other server, it's the unfair parity between mobile, gamepad, and PC players. Mobile and gamepad users sometimes seem to be granted a half-second more of reaction time than me regardless of my connectivity status. In addition, they're granted far easier capability to hit headshots at any range or angle regardless of difficulty. FPS games are not meant to be played on a phone or tablet. I'm okay with gamepad players, but the fact that they get Aim Assist is RIDICULOUS when controllers are on-par with mouse+keyboard in terms of how fitting it is for FPS gaming. I'm tired of competing against people playing an objectively easier version of the game.
ill come back when arsenal 2 comes out...
2019-2020 were the goated years of arsenal
hey 8sty I love your vids and yah ROBLOX arsenal is dyeing from what I know. there is not as much players as there was when it was 2020 and 2021 : )
Thank xonae
i want to make content on the game but ive lost skill on the game due to school and i have no time also because of school and my gcse.
8sty is the last big arsenal creator please dont quit ❤❤
old gameplay sfx were FIRE
They should make an hunt like the dev swords and the monkey skin.
Arsenal is actually very fun, ive been playing for 5 weeks and am already level 100, never ever have i had so much fun
8sty im in an arsenal server and the gravity is like SO low and people are saying u did it help. 💔💔
i think admin should increase security because i see a lot of hackers and add zombie infection mode:))
AWESOME VIDEO
thx lol
exploiters ruin arsenal, every server you joined had an exploiter
hmmm im wondering if reloaded is released will players data from original arsenal be transferred to the new game, or people will have to start all over again
Simple Answer: Yes
Unsimple Answer: Even though i still like arsenal.
- The movement is outdated
- Way too many hackers
- So many absolutely shitty weapons in comp
- Not Enough ptw
- Too repetitive
- Not good enough rewards
- Maps are usualy too big
- Rivals exists
Theres too much for me to list
Arsenal is dying cuz of too many exploiters and ngl even if u get one two or even 100s of them banned they'll just get another acc and continue then if you'd take a look at Roblox then rn Roblox has many MANY battle ground games like strongest battle ground, legends battle ground and more and many of my friends have started playing those games i haven't quit it one of the reason why I'm not gonna quit is I'm probably the highest lvl mobile player?(Idk i play on a one plus Nord mobile for over two years and reached lvl 483)
Honestly I want to make Arsenal vids of a mobile players pov but i can't actually cuz of studies....
8sty how are you sympathetic of this game if you still hate some of the game mechanics of Arsenal!? (Like raycast failed or dead upon shot for examples)
he has orange team he’ll deal with it
raycast failed is just a ping issue not a mechanic but I actually think dead upon is most of the time good. (except when someone random kills u)
I've played games without dead upon before and you end up dying so much more often
8sty really got his first kill in arsenal 1 day before my birthday😂
Cheaters will always be the reason of the downfall of games
It's probably gonna die the downfall from 2020 to 2024 is much
It started to die in late 2023 and ever since that year this game is totally dead
@@srai.4233 Arsenal started to die after the 2021 summer update.
@@LukeMP2008 no, not true,many players still played, if Tanqr quit it doesn't mean that everyone quit, there were still atleast 20k players in 2021 and in 2022-23 it was something 15 but now it's lesser than that
@@srai.4233 When I say dead I'm referring to summer 2021 being the end of arsenal's golden age, not the active player count. Not only was it the year when all the big youtubers quit, but it was also the year when updates started to completely lose their charm. The active player count that year was perfectly fine.
yep it's dying, full of exploiters and tons of newbies / lvl 100 - 400 players now. they should add skill matchmaking / bring back rank
The fact that 100-400 is considered newbies lol
W VIDEO thanks for the plug 😈😈
Wow that are some really good suggestions you got. The game is so boring and repetitive now..