[Vinesauce] Vinny - NES Gems
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- Опубликовано: 28 июл 2024
- 00:00 Intro
00:45 Armadillo
07:16 Cocoron
19:07 Crystalis
28:39 Gimmick
38:11 Journey to Silius
44:04 Little Samson
49:34 S.C.A.T.
53:00 Section Z
56:00 Shatter Hand
01:04:32 Outro
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I'm not sure why but Vinny playing Nes games are some of the best comfort videos out there
To me at least, part of the reason is that a lot of the enjoyment is derived from exploring these titles regardless of their quality. It's a good time all around even when the games aren't that good, and it's fun seeing Binny experience them for what they are. It's vibes :)
For sure, idk why but Vinny + NES games go together like peanut butter and jelly. His Zelda 1/2 streams are among my favorites to put on as I'm going to bed, just creates such a cozy feeling.
Maybe immense un-throttled nostalgia is playing a part in that
I love the nostalgia. I particularly enjoy it cuz Vin & I are the same age, born same year as the NES so both grew up with it.
Watching streams like this while depressed at 2 am is honestly what gets me through life
Shatterhand, Journey To Silius, and Gimmick were nice to see on stream.
The story behind Gimmick was so sad, they really worked hard on that game but no one was interested in NES games anymore at the time that it came out.
At least its getting love now. I got the collector's edition of the switch port from lrg because i want the boi.
the story behind Guardian Legend is sad as well. amazing genre blend which deserved follow ups. but there were no.
Gimmick recently got an arcade exclusive 16-bit remake called Gimmick Exact☆Mix, with an improved soundtrack composed by Manabu Namiki; we'll probably never see it on a console, unfortunately
The Famicom version is getting re-released on Steam later this year, so we'll finally have a way to legally play it outside of Japan and Scandinavia.
Cocoron is such an ambitious game. Not only do you get the character creator, but you have the combined levels. You can travel to any level from any other level, and each one then works as a transitional area to the selected level. Meaning there’s a bunch of possible combos. And on the NES, even.
kinda yes, but most of the character combinations pretty useless. Some is so rarely useful that no point to have it
Cocoron is preety much a Metroidvania with the added luxury of customizing your characters. I’m all for it.
This has the most 2015 Vinesauce energy of any stream in the past 3 years. What a trip! I just love the “checking out this cool stuff I think we might like” vibe we had during this whole segment.
"This game goes for $2700" (or whatever the amount was) And that's a big reason why game preservation is so important! If it wasn't for emulation, a game like that would just be unavailable to play and could be almost completely lost
I love that Little Samson is over $2000 loose despite being dumped decades ago, yet there are collectors who believe that sharing the _digital data_ of their collection will somehow greatly devalue a *physically rare object.*
That or they exploit the game preservation/lost media community for profit...
That being said, Little Samson isn't made by some obscure company. It's a Taito game, so the odds of it being lost are basically 0. Pretty sure it was even on VC at one point. Not to detract from the core sentiment, just saying in this case that was never going to happen.
What? Lowering the price of resold copies isn't going make more copies magically exist.
@@mechadeka Y-... You know both of us referred to emulation, right? You don't need more physical copies to distribute ROMs my dude.
I know right? I get hyped when i see shit once thought lost get resurface and dumped
@Warboss Gegguz he's talking about the rarity of physical games
I hope Vinny plays more of Mr. Gimmick someday, because the game is constantly introducing cool new stuff in each level
gimmicks?
Ngl that OST got me rock hard. The devs did some impressive shit. You can definitely tell this was at the end of the NES life cycle.
@@crust9889Agreed. I think the best thing about the game is that it basically got a Box2D physics in a NES game. It's really impressive, considering the fact that such engines usually require floating point math and NES CPU doesn't have any support for floating point numbers.
mr gimmick was one of my favorite games when i was big into playing nes games emulated on my ds
It's being re-released soon. Thank god for that
Gimmick and Shatter Hand are honestly titles, that could come out like they are as Retrostyle Indiegames today.
I love Gimmick, even though I'm bad at it. It's such an impressive looking game for the NES
Thank you so much for playing my pack vinny! Im a long time viewer and always wanted to do something for the steam. It was a great stream can wait for part 2. Also im going to send over 3 or 4 more games to you like you said so then you can get another hour of nes game's so keep an eye out!
I messaged you on stream, but just another heads up that CDRomance and Vimm's Lair are probably the best places to find pre-patched JP roms. Especially for NES and FDS.
If you want help compiling more for a pack I got a ton of obscure NES games.
@@warbossgegguz679 Thanks! This time ill add a version of cocoron in english. (luckly i did patched the other jp game he hasnt played yet already but thats a secret till he plays it)
@@sonyuku9669 If I may make some suggestions: Adventure Island 4, Don Doko Don 2, Doki Doki Amusement Park, Getsu Fuuma Den, Gun-Dec, Gun Na, Joy Mech Fight, Keroppi's Adventure 2, Magical Doropie, Moon Crystal, The Ninja Jajamaru games, Recca, Spartan X 2 (aka Kung-Fu 2), Samurai Pizza Cats (preferably the "US "translation"), Spelunker 2, Valis, Wai Wai World 1/2, and The Wing of Madoola... at least as far as Translated roms go. There's other obscure gems I know of that were officially released stateside as well though.
Sorry for the laundry list, just figured I'd save you time on vetting, lol. Narrowed it down to exclude stuff that would be boring for a stream (ie the DOZENS of JRPGs & any adventure games/VNs), and all of these should be up on the sites I named. Omitted some ARPGs that could potentially work, but idk how well that would go on a sunday grabbag stream. Like, stuff like Esper Dream or Record of Radia War are sick, but might be a bit too slow to start for sunday stream.
Collecting and playing translated roms is kind of an obsession of mine, so I have a lot. If you'd rather I just send you some shit I can.
I really REALLY hope Vinny goes back to Cocoron, at least in his own time. It's a truly interesting experience where your choice of characters heavily influences the difficulty, and there's a semi-random nature to the exploration/ progression.
Cool comment chain
After so much time of bootlegs and corruptions, it's nice to shine a light on the positive side of the NES' library. Especially since most of the ambitious and late-stage games didn't get localized outside of Japan.
Also, I would be happy to gather up some actual english patched versions of weird/obscure NES classics from my folder of 700+ games. Collecting english patched JP roms is kind of an obsession of mine, lol.
That's really neat. I remember getting excited any time I would find a fan-translation for a game that only ever released in Japan, back in the day.
I remember when Aeon Genesis's patches became available for the SMT games, and I just thought it was so neat that this was even a thing that could be done like that.
I'm not a collector like you are, but I admire that, for sure!
Same. I watch the fan translation community like a hawk. Recently, the Dreamcast version of Rent A Hero got a fan translation and it has more goodies than the original Japanese version.
I hope it goes to SNES.
How can I send Vinny Gunman’s Proof?
@@ArmoredChocoboLPs Patch the game, then send it to him with a bunch of other games in a zip file. If you are going to add some Japanese only games, make sure they have an English patch.
@@Urist_Mythrilforged oh I patched mine long ago
Cocoron immediately giving me a flashback to Eversion
10 months later and I'm just now watching this and commented asking if I was tripping and that was the same theme from Eversion or not lol
Gimmick! is one of my favs. All time legendary soundtrack, definitely worth the vinyl purchase
Hope you do more segments like this where you check out hidden gems
For someone who is way too young to have grown up with the NES, this stream was fucking great. Everyone knows the classics but it's crazy how many titles with just as much (if not more) promise just fell through the cracks. I've barely heard of any of these.
Speaking of Metroid, I played through the series for the first time ever (not prime just yet, just the 2D ones) and I liked it a lot. It was on the lead up to Dread's launch so it was a good opportunity. For the original specifically, I actually did like it. It was fun. That said, though I tried playing without a guide, I did fall back on one pretty quickly. I'll tell you how much I knew about Metroid's gameplay; I knew the concept of using different ammo types on differently colored doors and not much more, but on the original it takes, what, like 5 missiles or something? I never knew that was a thing. I used 3 or 4 and went "I must be doing something wrong" and proceeded to wonder back and forth for, no kidding, 2 hours... on the first area btw. I wanted to play without a guide for as long as I could, but didn't even make it past the first missile door.
After that the dam was open and I used the guide for the rest of the playthrough-- I explored an area first, then went to it, but I admit that looking at a guide with things labeled made it way quicker and had less to find for yourself-- not that I would have found 95% of any of that let's be clear. That said, as much as I liked playing the game, it would not have been worth the perseverance playing completely blind. It's far too janky and dated for me to have fun at that point. Rather, the enjoyment of discovery would have been vastly outweighed by annoyance and boredom. I'm not trying to dog on NES Metroid, I can see how discovering the game blind would be fun... As a kid where that's all you got. I was there, just not with Metroid. I felt like I got the peak amount of fun from the game using a guide the way I did. And it sounds like I'm being defensive over using a guide, but I try to get the most fun that I can out of a game and I need to judge if a game deserves the time and effort; and I'll do that even if it takes days or weeks. So that's why, even though many tell newcomers to skip the original, out of fear that it will turn them away, I'd say the opposite. To anyone wondering, you should play the original if you have any interest; knowing full well that the series only goes up from there. You don't need to beat it, but resort to a guide to get as much out of it as you can.
Zero mission I think is just better-- though I see what Vin means in terms of it not have the same level of discovery, but it's the original Metroid we're talking about. I don't think that discovery is worth a lot. In a more modern game, like Super Metroid, sure, but no one's got time for that when it comes to NES Metroid. The only people who enjoy it to that level are people who've played it many times. Zero Mission is at least more bearable. And need I remind you of those bosses? Yikes! Not that I was ever used to NES games having amazing bosses, but still, even regular enemies were more fun than them. I liked the core movement, which probably sounds odd to some, but again it's an NES game, so my standards were lowered a lot, but at the end of it I was satisfied having played it first. I'll probably never play it again, at least not for more than 20 seconds, but I had fun. It's been too long for me to recall specific points as far as what I liked and disliked about it, so I've kind of just been rambling, but that's fine.
All-in-all, Metroid Zero Mission is great, way better than the original in all ways personally speaking, but the original was worth playing.
There's a difficulty in recommendation NES games because all of them have some form of "NES era bullshit" where the game has stuff like absurd difficulty spikes, huge masses of grinding, cryptic bullshit, etc. And the og Metroid and Zeld are no exceptions sadly. ESPECIALLY Zelda 1.
Was awesome seeing Vinny try out Crystalis!
Love that game, and it’s wild how ahead of its time it was.
Yeah, really good game. Though when he started it I've thought "oh no, not this one, Vinny, Run!", then after intro and first bits of gameplay I've realized that I got it confused with Hydlide (which is terrible headache that shouldn't be played, ever).
@@UltimatePerfection The people who made Hydlide should be... dealt with. RUclips probably won't let me say what they deserve.
I played more Crystalis than Zelda when I had my NES when I was a kid. That music was too good.
i love how cute some old famicom games are :3
also shattethand and the boxart are awesome.
8:24 sounds surprisingly familiar to the Level 1 music of Eversion - I thought it was straight up taken from this game but there are some differences. Wonder if that was an intentional choice or like a subconscious thought of "This sounds just right but I'm not sure why."
I believe older versions of Eversion used music from Cocoron, that's why
@@RockyZhou I swear I knew this from somewhere!
THAT'S why I recognized it!
33:29 I visited the Music Sampler in the PS1 re-release of Gimmick once. It gave the same results of a *portable Famiclone* powered by AAA batteries outputting music in a built-in speaker.
Can't believe vin doesn't remember playing that hack of cocoron where he made a tank with donkey Kong's head.
All these years and dozens of random fan arts later, I have finally found out from where that funny little green Kirby-esque monster comes from.
Thanks for showing me Gimmick
I don't know how, but I thought the title said "NES Gaems"
goddamn so many cool games i had no idea ever existed, i'm sure that goes for pretty much every console too, so many hidden gems
37:22 I've been learning about 6502 NES development, and I JUST watched a video that dives into the DCM samples on NES games, and how the bit reversal solves some of those crust issues!
ruclips.net/video/mJnz6dEWwIw/видео.html
Crystalis is legit one of the best games on the NES.
Crystalis is definitely one of the best games on the NES, gotten kinda a revival in recent years too as there's now a randomizer and regular tournaments being held.
crystalis is actually one of my favorite games of all time and im so happy it was featured
kinda expected The Guardian Legend to show up here, definitively a NES gem (password system aside)
The Guardian Legend might just be my personal favorite on the NES. When I play it emulated, I had a "challenge" where I would use savestates, but only in rooms that had the Naju people in them.
These days, there's romhacks that make it possible to save your game in certain rooms, but I can't remember all the details.
Would love to watch Vinny play any version of the game.
What we learned from this is Vinny never stops learning. What's old is new to you.
I see shatterhand, I press like
SUP, MAN?!?
@@carl-wheezer SUUUUUP
One of my favorite NES games. Same with Crystalis
What the hell. Just yesterday I was thinking "Man, wouldn't it be cool if Mr. Gimmick was in a Vinesauce Game collection?"
Some might recognize the Cocoron theme from the game Eversion, which reused some of its songs.
Cocoron seems heavily mega man inspired, very intriguing
Good video games? In my vinesauce stream? It's more likely than you might think.
OMG CRYSTALIS!!! i was literally thinking if you do another nes pack, this, THIS game would be in it
Oh _frozen rice,_ Crystalis, I love that one! Wish I had the time to actually finish it one of these days
i could honestly listen to a whole stream of vinny just listening to and appreciating solid nes music, lol
Crystalis, Gimmick, and Shatter Hand definitely are my style. I know I sure would have appreciated them all as a kid. Gimmick in particular was incredible, the surprise I had hearing how amazing the music was just blew me away. Crystalis had that Zelda feel we all know and love but it seems to be it's own thing and I like that. And Shatter Hand has a nice simplicity to it with the moves, I also like that you get a little drone fella too.
A few other gems that are also severely overlooked are
-VICE Project Doom
-The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles
-Samurai Pizza Cats
-Guardian Legend
-Power Blade
-Gun Nac
-Bucky O Hare
-Kick Master
18:42
Tails "Am I a joke to you?"
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Cocoron! Fun game, I played this back in the late 90s when I discovered ROMs
I had to go listen to the entire Gimmick OST. It's so good.
Crystalis is my favorite NES game!
Gimmick! best 8bit game ever made for me, it's hard as hell, especially if you wanna get the real final level, but man it's just so full of game mechanics that you can learn and master and make, at least the enemies, easy for you.
Never seen a platformer so curated in every single detail in general. I love it.
A selection from the Favreau Collection
Little Samson was one of my favorite games when I was a kid! Thanks for the nostalgia.
35:00 Strange Memories of Death is fire af
Ok, I'm definitely picking Gimmick once is re-released on Switch, the few things we got to see left me deeply impressed
Gimmick! is awesome. Of course it was made by Sunsoft. "Authentic Entertainment Realistic Another World Presented by Sunsoft." The Strange Memories of Death song sounds like it could easily have vocals added.
32:57 33:08
Omg Cocoron and Crystalis? I fucking adored those games
Didn't expect to see NintendoComplete show up on a stream. Pretty cool channel full of full playthroughs and games I never even knew existed.
Crystalis is right up there with Faxanadu as one of the best non Nintendo games on the Nes. I'd absolutely watch a full play through of it.
It really made my day to see all those people being introduced to Gimmick in that stream
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I remember going to a family members house years ago as a kid. They had a bunch of NES games and I remember playing Journey to Silius (along with Mario, Zelda, and Kirby). I love the music but I could never beat the 2nd level on that game
There's something so great about Vinny seeing games that pushed the NES to its limits, especially Little Samson and Gimmick. I didn't know Gimmick was getting a modern re-release too, that's awesome!
Well time to get Cocoron and Crysalis on my snes mini, those games were amazing
I am beyond happy to see a stream of NES games that isn't just bad games and bootlegs. As someone that has been playing NES and Famicom games for most of the 2010's there are a lot of good ones I can recommend.
Gimmick is absolutely my favorite game for the NES period. Its platforming and mechanics, its world and art design, its masterful ost, its just an experience that I think anyone who wants to play NES games should play. It's truly a showpiece for the system and Sunsoft
Glad to see other people recommending Guardian Legend, absolutely deserves to be on a list of NES gems
I have the Gimmick soundtrack on vinyl. It's incredible.
that box art for shatterfist is phenomenal how dare you
Cocoron is a pretty fire concept (There's an English translation btw)
Gimmick’s music is so wonderful and i still revisit it. It has an extra sound chip in the actual cart so that it can have more sound channels than normal
Sadly, the expansion chip still requires audio expansion channels that only the Famicom has, which makes the cartridge incompatible with the NES unless you either remove the expansion chip or modify the NES to include the audio expansion channels. As a result, the EU release it got has a totally gimped soundtrack. I listened to it once, and it's just as disappointing as you'd expect. Thankfully, the original Famicom OST is on RUclips in at least a few different forms.
The Japanese plot of Crystalis reminds me of Terranigma.
Hebereke/U-four-ia: The Saga would honestly fit in this Collection perfectly.
The eversion music coming in for Cocoron was insane, I couldn't believe it
Went in because I immediately recognized shatterhand in the thumbnail; it's semi-well known for having some of the best graphics on the NES. Did not know about it's infamous cover, I guess that balances it out lol.
Elite is the most technically impressive game on the NES just due to what it's doing graphically, but Gimmick is up there.
Anytime I hear Tim Follin involved in any game, its just an absolute blessing and I automatically get a respect for the game. This dude is such a legend with the stuff he's composed including Jim Power, Super Off-Road, Plok, Starsky and Hutch and now this lovely game called Gimmick. I dunno how he does it, but i love every bit of it.
He didn't make gimmick's soundtrack lol
I genuinely think Vinny would enjoy a full playthrough of Crystalis.
The Guardian Legend!
That cocoron soundtrack is amazing
Seeing Vinny play gimmick made my day!
42:22 I swear I've heard this song in a different game, but I cannot remember what... I think it's something recent though...
Holy shit the Cocoron music during character creation is just Eversion music... or I guess the other way around.
First I figure out Vinny never played Battle of Olympous, now CRYSTALIS?
Damn dude you need a day for each of those games stat.
Funnyhe brings up Lagoon too, I played it because its basically a natural progression from Crystalis. Outside of the sword issue. The thing about him talking about a "fix" is that the original version of Lagoon I think from a PC game or something, the sword essentially was fine. They broke it for the SNES.
Dragon Spirit is worth the full play through. The levels are challenging but the music is worth it.
Edit: Shatter Hand is cool I have to check it out.
I enjoyeded this video.
The first three games he plays in this video all have fan translations in English.
56:06
Help! Help!
Sakebigoe ga hibikuyo!
Help! Help!
Chikyuu ga ima abunai!
Cocoron: The Adventures of Nort-thulhu and Thom Yorke Servo.
Hope he playa Guardian Legend someday, super underrated game.
Some of these games have solid OSTs!
"Billiards" will always be your th"meme" song binyot
Yo Crystalis? Game rocks!
Armadillo looks so cool
I think what I like so much about the NES/Famicom is the wealth of genuinely good titles on the system, but that's what happens when you're so dominant on two continents and have shitty developer contracts that basically bar you from making something for somebody else. Some of my personal faves are Wai Wai World 2, Sugoro Quest, Splatter House: Wanpaku Graffiti, New Ghostbusters II, and Zombie Hunter
i genuinely think Vinny should play Cocoron in full with the english patch on stream
Shatterhand was such a hidden gem, it's a shame it's brutally difficult near the end
Gimmick is an amazing game with great art, enemy ai, beautiful music, etc., but the difficulty is nuts. It's best played with some save scumming, I find.
To add more of not well known great stuff - Guardian Legend, Zen Ninja, Rockin Kats. Not sure if Bucky O Hare is unknown as it based on TV series. Uforia, Vice: Project Doom, Recca. I think there are more just can't remember all. Overall - NES library full of great stuff.
Gimmick is an amazing game I highly recommend people buy the steam release when it comes out though be warned that the game is tough as nails at times and can take thinking outside the box to get the true ending
Never heard of Armadillo till this stream, tried it on MISTer and it feels laggier than how slow it looks.
Freaking Gimmick is so hard, but so very fun:3