What I loved the most was how Mannix and Warren joined forces in the end despite being adversaries. They even save each other just so they can die next to each other. Awesome shit.
That’s why I like QT a lot...he does the same in pulp fiction ...Marcellus and Butch hated each other fighting viciously while next minute Butch is saving and avenging Raped Marcellus..QT is a real twisted film writer and producer.
The wars of America, between the North and the South here, hating all the people that we otherwise wouldn’t....was brought about by liars and the lies we live by to justify all the killing. This film is full of liars. Everyone is lying. The Yankee and the Confederate Renegade are dying, but hang the lies and deceit in the end. Then read that letter, having a chuckle about the lie that kept them alive. I found it to be a commentary on America, the division that we have allowed for centuries, believing the lies about ourselves and others.
I got a theory mannix was not one of the hateful 8 mannixes men were named after his father he was the Shariff, he doesn't shoot the unarmed, tries to keep piece with the old man(who is hateful) and warren, never lies tries to befriend everyone, the only hatefulness you can accuse him of is racial but clearly he sides with sam Jackson's character despite race or the killing of on old man he respects fed and gave the blanket off his back. and still doesn't side with the gang and even goes under sams command when he asked if he can shoot joe gage.
I love how they both together have their last bit of fun (Hanging Daisy) before dying. I’ve always loved that detail! Fuckkk I love this movie so much!
@@redtails3016 Why though? It was sudden, pretty unexpected as the initial comment conveyed, and all it achieved was removing a pretty minor character from the plot. We met the guy, what, ten minutes of film time before he died? Sure, he wasn't a nice guy in that time, but he still wasn't a major player.
@@ThePCguy17 What goes around comes around. He killed those "minor", but wonderful characters in the haberdashery without a second thought. Such a waste. Seeing the same thing happen to him was funny and well deserved in my opinion.
@@redtails3016 Well deserved, yes, but since all he killed were minor characters, the only thing I really got out of his death was more confirmation that Warren is a spiteful bastard. "You shot my dick? All right, I'll kill you then. It won't do me any good, but I'll kill you anyway."
Kurt was a beast in this movie, cant believe he isnt talked about more, he absolutely killed his role one of my favorite characters in a terantino movie ever
Ah yes The Hateful Eight. My favorite QT movie by a landslide. And that’s saying a lot because I love all his movies. All his work is full of style, I love it
Kurt was one of the only people there who wasn't hateful. Kurt was one of the good ones in this movie. Daisy on the other hand was one of the hateful 8
I just watched an interview with Quentin and he even said there's more than 8 there's 9 cos there's the coach driver ob, but he's not hateful everyone kinda likes him, so its more like the hateful 8 and ob. Made me laugh cos its true haha
The only character I empathized with were the horses left in the stable. After every character died they were left to their own devices, unless another traveling group found them after the blizzard subsided.
Fun fact the guitar smashed @5:12 is a rare Martin guitar that was meant to be switched with a breakable prop. Jennifer Jason Leigh's reaction is real shock!
Yeah the guitar store or museum that owned it and gave it to Tarantino were pissed that their $10~20,000 guitar was destroyed. The museum vowed to never hand Tarantino any musical instruments again.
The insurance company refused to pay out on the antique Martin since it was priceless. The museum was never told there would be a scene in which a guitar was smashed. The museum refuses to loan out any guitar for any film now. Quentin ruined it for everyone.
There is only 2 people to blame for this, the prop master who did nothing and Tarantino for not stopping the scene, Russell had no idea that that was the actual guitar.
@@riftvallance2087 Tarantino ruined my enjoyment of this film and of all his films by doing that shit on purpose and actually taking pleasure watching Jennifer Jason Leigh's reaction on camera, turned out to be such an egotistical ignorant slob thinking his movie is more important than a historical artifact
I think the main death that caught my eye was the new zealander woman. Even after being shot by the man she was just talking to; even with no expalantion or reason, she still reaches out to him for help. Even in that moment she was trying to engage in a form of social engagement. She was trying to build a bridge of communication, and in less than 3 seconds, the man just shoots her again. Showing how violence makes people close off to outside communication, which is how they can justify their violence. To quote Che' Guevara, "shoot, you are only going to kill a man". That's the mindset the killers end up in.
Why does any character have to have learned a lesson so that there is a moral or a lesson learned ? What about what your personally conclude from the story ?
This has 27k views, HOW do you only have 200 subs!? You do GREAT analysis mate, are you gonna be making any more? I just finished ya Zelda breakdown that was pretty great :)
Ironically one of the least "violent" characters in this film is the racist confederate soldier. Mannix was pretty agreeable throughout the film, up until the hanging Dommergue part.
I saw this film almost like the violent cartoons I grew up watching, and just as comical. And just like those cartoons, I could easily distinguish entertainment from real life...Great Movie!
Can't believe you didn't mention the most diabolically cruel and evil act in the movie and the biggest alienating factor for Warren; how he dealt with the Generals son. Absolutely heinous and if you still was holding onto the idea that Warren was some kind of good guy, that is thrown out the window after that scene.
There's a chance Warren made all that up. He wanted to get a rise out of Smithers. He wanted an excuse to kill him but he couldn't straight up just do it; that would have been a crime. But if he shot him in "self defense" well.
i always thougth it was a bit ambiguous how he could, might as well, have made up the story to taunt the general. He had no evidence besides his word that the story was true
@@troubledsole9104 I almost had the same feeling (it felt in bad taste) but really the scene exists just to make sure everybody hates Warren as much as the others. As this video discusses, being on the "good side," does not excuse extreme sadistic violence. OR you can interpret that Warren was just making all that shit up, which is what I think is true now. He just said it to get Smithers to draw first in order to legally murder him, basically. Let's not forget that Smithers massacred surrendered soldiers and his son hunted black people for money, no one in that entire conversation was innocent.
I think the weight of the violence is why I didn't like it at first, because I went in think of Django and just left shocked. Took me years to come around to it.
i'm writing this halfway through the video, so if you touch on it later i'll delete my comment, but i think the point of this film is that there is no "good guy" i think the point of the hateful 8 is that there is nobody to root for at all, they are all bastards who kill and hurt others at will, there is no real protagonist, and no antagonist, it's just a bunch of people in a room. that's the genius of it {edit - ok so technically channing tatum's gang are the antagonists, but not really, because their crimes take up such a small part of the run time, we don't know or care about their victims, maybe if we got to know them before that scene then i'd consider the gang as the antagonists, but personally i think my previous point still stands}
But in the end, the movie show Mannix as the character with justifiable acts. Although I think they made him kinda annoying and derpy for the same reason, so we don't view him as the hero.
John Ruth is brutal, but I think he still qualifies as an honorable man, especially given the nature of his profession. He never lies about who he is and he treats every life equally and judges accordingly. He’s even willing to judge Warren on several occasions. I’m not saying he’s perfect but he’s definitely hot a stronger moral standard than the other characters. And as for his beating Daisy around, yes it is cruel but he seems to do it mostly when she crosses a line and she’s also a desperate manipulative criminal who is trying to antagonize the people she’s with. She isn’t just sitting around being innocent singing sweet nothings, and frankly shouldn’t be mouthing off trying to harass people in general. I know I don’t just insult some big guy at a bar, at least not without expecting possible retaliation. It may be easy for the squeamish to not wanna see a woman get brutalized, but this is also a woman who’d probably do worse if she were in the situation of power. Plus John is the only one who seems to value life, hence his no killing rule he has for himself. Even when the General got shot he was the one debating the legality of the actions taken. But again maybe I’m being easy on John given the nature of his job, which requires him to either kill a person in cold blood, or drag a desperate person to jail to face legal justice. Given the options of his profession he does take the better route.
I always found The Hateful Eight the most underwhelming, given there was A) a mystery element in it, only to be a cop out. B) and I guess I was having high expectations at the time, maybe some sort of grand standoff or some form of a epic climax. After listening to your analysis, I guess it does work because guys being violent for the sake of it. Given its setting where violence like that is the norm (being a Wild Western and all). While I still think this movie is still the most weakest of Tarantino's films (close to Inglorious Bastards being the weakest) personally, however I see the point of a film just showing casting violence in its simplist form, not in any good/bad light, just like it is.
how was there a cop out to the mystery ?? you don’t know who the off one is till he get up against the wall, you also woulda never guessed Sheriff Manix and Warren woulda ended being the two together and friendly lol
best movie of TARANTINO'S CAREER....SO FAR. BEST DIALOUGUE IN A FILM I EVER SEEN. I can't believe he says he is only gonna direct 1 more movie. I would hate to see him retire from doing this. he is by far my favorite director, writer, and even his cameo's are good. especially in PLANET TERROR AND DJANGO
The violence is shown in a comic or exagerated way so idiots could see it is just a movie, like making somebody's head completly disapeared just by being shot in the face.
story about alot lol. Could say it’s ain’t racism with warren and sherif ending the movie off, they were the only ones beefing on sight over race besides the old man
they had most of their arm strength left, albeit while experiencing excruciating pain and they could've thrown the rope over a horizontal roof support beam and had warren hold it while mannix got the rope around her neck, the scene cuts so that it can be left up to the imagination imo
Get on with your life mate.... "Hatefull Eight" is still a mere movie - as in, i´d did not happen for real!! EXCELLENT characters though - thx Tarantino & crew :)
There's no reason to speak as fast as film theorist do unless you're a 12 year old hopped up on pixie sticks. Try looking at other film analysis channels and see how they all talk in at a normal speed
What I loved the most was how Mannix and Warren joined forces in the end despite being adversaries. They even save each other just so they can die next to each other. Awesome shit.
That’s why I like QT a lot...he does the same in pulp fiction ...Marcellus and Butch hated each other fighting viciously while next minute Butch is saving and avenging Raped Marcellus..QT is a real twisted film writer and producer.
The wars of America, between the North and the South here, hating all the people that we otherwise wouldn’t....was brought about by liars and the lies we live by to justify all the killing. This film is full of liars. Everyone is lying. The Yankee and the Confederate Renegade are dying, but hang the lies and deceit in the end. Then read that letter, having a chuckle about the lie that kept them alive.
I found it to be a commentary on America, the division that we have allowed for centuries, believing the lies about ourselves and others.
And which in turn gave us a great scene
Mannix: “I ain’t dead yet you black bastard….”
Warren: **uncontrollable laughter**
I got a theory mannix was not one of the hateful 8 mannixes men were named after his father he was the Shariff, he doesn't shoot the unarmed, tries to keep piece with the old man(who is hateful) and warren, never lies tries to befriend everyone, the only hatefulness you can accuse him of is racial but clearly he sides with sam Jackson's character despite race or the killing of on old man he respects fed and gave the blanket off his back. and still doesn't side with the gang and even goes under sams command when he asked if he can shoot joe gage.
I love how they both together have their last bit of fun (Hanging Daisy) before dying. I’ve always loved that detail! Fuckkk I love this movie so much!
I loved how Warren just blows Jody's head off just as you think he's gonna get involed in the movie.
Aaaaaaand you missed the whole point of this video, didn't you?
@@ThePCguy17 It was pleasing to see. Not gonna lie.
@@redtails3016 Why though? It was sudden, pretty unexpected as the initial comment conveyed, and all it achieved was removing a pretty minor character from the plot. We met the guy, what, ten minutes of film time before he died? Sure, he wasn't a nice guy in that time, but he still wasn't a major player.
@@ThePCguy17 What goes around comes around. He killed those "minor", but wonderful characters in the haberdashery without a second thought. Such a waste. Seeing the same thing happen to him was funny and well deserved in my opinion.
@@redtails3016 Well deserved, yes, but since all he killed were minor characters, the only thing I really got out of his death was more confirmation that Warren is a spiteful bastard. "You shot my dick? All right, I'll kill you then. It won't do me any good, but I'll kill you anyway."
Kurt was a beast in this movie, cant believe he isnt talked about more, he absolutely killed his role one of my favorite characters in a terantino movie ever
Well said.i m applauding u in That
Ah yes The Hateful Eight. My favorite QT movie by a landslide. And that’s saying a lot because I love all his movies. All his work is full of style, I love it
Are you familiar with Kurt's dad Bing?
Kurt was one of the only people there who wasn't hateful. Kurt was one of the good ones in this movie. Daisy on the other hand was one of the hateful 8
@@lot8900 kurt sure was stupid though not checking the basement.
OB the stage couch driver was peaceful
True, OB wasn't looking to hurt anybody, nor did he hate anybody. He just wanted to do his job.
Yeah theres 9 characters but 8 of them are hateful lol. But ob was good.
I just watched an interview with Quentin and he even said there's more than 8 there's 9 cos there's the coach driver ob, but he's not hateful everyone kinda likes him, so its more like the hateful 8 and ob. Made me laugh cos its true haha
The only character I empathized with were the horses left in the stable. After every character died they were left to their own devices, unless another traveling group found them after the blizzard subsided.
Obi wasn’t bad.
Fun fact the guitar smashed @5:12 is a rare Martin guitar that was meant to be switched with a breakable prop. Jennifer Jason Leigh's reaction is real shock!
Yeah the guitar store or museum that owned it and gave it to Tarantino were pissed that their $10~20,000 guitar was destroyed. The museum vowed to never hand Tarantino any musical instruments again.
The insurance company refused to pay out on the antique Martin since it was priceless. The museum was never told there would be a scene in which a guitar was smashed. The museum refuses to loan out any guitar for any film now. Quentin ruined it for everyone.
@@Drew791 well that's not Tarantino fault, that's solely on kurt Russell for being smash happy
There is only 2 people to blame for this, the prop master who did nothing and Tarantino for not stopping the scene, Russell had no idea that that was the actual guitar.
@@riftvallance2087 Tarantino ruined my enjoyment of this film and of all his films by doing that shit on purpose and actually taking pleasure watching Jennifer Jason Leigh's reaction on camera, turned out to be such an egotistical ignorant slob thinking his movie is more important than a historical artifact
I think the main death that caught my eye was the new zealander woman. Even after being shot by the man she was just talking to; even with no expalantion or reason, she still reaches out to him for help. Even in that moment she was trying to engage in a form of social engagement. She was trying to build a bridge of communication, and in less than 3 seconds, the man just shoots her again. Showing how violence makes people close off to outside communication, which is how they can justify their violence. To quote Che' Guevara, "shoot, you are only going to kill a man". That's the mindset the killers end up in.
very well thought out, made me appreciate the movie a lot more. well done, sir!
Thanks for the kind words, my dude!
Why does any character have to have learned a lesson so that there is a moral or a lesson learned ? What about what your personally conclude from the story ?
Why it’s always sunny is the best sitcom
The heroes journey to self realization and growth
By far my favorite Q Tarantino movie: The Hateful Eight. I love all his other work too.
This has 27k views, HOW do you only have 200 subs!? You do GREAT analysis mate, are you gonna be making any more? I just finished ya Zelda breakdown that was pretty great :)
I like it fella good work, One of the best films made in the last few years.
Mason Freeman very true
Ironically one of the least "violent" characters in this film is the racist confederate soldier. Mannix was pretty agreeable throughout the film, up until the hanging Dommergue part.
Great work dude. Didnt know what to expect going into it but i liked tour overall analysis. Can I has affection now?
I saw this film almost like the violent cartoons I grew up watching, and just as comical. And just like those cartoons, I could easily distinguish entertainment from real life...Great Movie!
Can't believe you didn't mention the most diabolically cruel and evil act in the movie and the biggest alienating factor for Warren; how he dealt with the Generals son. Absolutely heinous and if you still was holding onto the idea that Warren was some kind of good guy, that is thrown out the window after that scene.
I stopped watching it after that. It was disgusting, cruel, and unrealistic. It actually ruined my night.
Warren was one of the hateful 8
There's a chance Warren made all that up. He wanted to get a rise out of Smithers. He wanted an excuse to kill him but he couldn't straight up just do it; that would have been a crime.
But if he shot him in "self defense" well.
i always thougth it was a bit ambiguous how he could, might as well, have made up the story to taunt the general. He had no evidence besides his word that the story was true
@@troubledsole9104 I almost had the same feeling (it felt in bad taste) but really the scene exists just to make sure everybody hates Warren as much as the others. As this video discusses, being on the "good side," does not excuse extreme sadistic violence.
OR you can interpret that Warren was just making all that shit up, which is what I think is true now. He just said it to get Smithers to draw first in order to legally murder him, basically. Let's not forget that Smithers massacred surrendered soldiers and his son hunted black people for money, no one in that entire conversation was innocent.
Great video.
You really deserve more subscribers.
I think the weight of the violence is why I didn't like it at first, because I went in think of Django and just left shocked. Took me years to come around to it.
i'm writing this halfway through the video, so if you touch on it later i'll delete my comment, but i think the point of this film is that there is no "good guy" i think the point of the hateful 8 is that there is nobody to root for at all, they are all bastards who kill and hurt others at will, there is no real protagonist, and no antagonist, it's just a bunch of people in a room. that's the genius of it {edit - ok so technically channing tatum's gang are the antagonists, but not really, because their crimes take up such a small part of the run time, we don't know or care about their victims, maybe if we got to know them before that scene then i'd consider the gang as the antagonists, but personally i think my previous point still stands}
the ending of your video was a nice touch, nice reference
there is a character to root for. the point is solving the mystery of who you should root for
Fantastic analysis! may I ask what the music was at :10.20
Another movie that uses violence very interestingly is Logan. You should make a video about that.
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*vaults out window*
But in the end, the movie show Mannix as the character with justifiable acts. Although I think they made him kinda annoying and derpy for the same reason, so we don't view him as the hero.
Amazing video, enjoyed the analysis.
Thank you very much, my chill dude!
John Ruth is brutal, but I think he still qualifies as an honorable man, especially given the nature of his profession. He never lies about who he is and he treats every life equally and judges accordingly. He’s even willing to judge Warren on several occasions. I’m not saying he’s perfect but he’s definitely hot a stronger moral standard than the other characters. And as for his beating Daisy around, yes it is cruel but he seems to do it mostly when she crosses a line and she’s also a desperate manipulative criminal who is trying to antagonize the people she’s with. She isn’t just sitting around being innocent singing sweet nothings, and frankly shouldn’t be mouthing off trying to harass people in general. I know I don’t just insult some big guy at a bar, at least not without expecting possible retaliation. It may be easy for the squeamish to not wanna see a woman get brutalized, but this is also a woman who’d probably do worse if she were in the situation of power. Plus John is the only one who seems to value life, hence his no killing rule he has for himself. Even when the General got shot he was the one debating the legality of the actions taken. But again maybe I’m being easy on John given the nature of his job, which requires him to either kill a person in cold blood, or drag a desperate person to jail to face legal justice. Given the options of his profession he does take the better route.
Take a shot every time he says “violence”
i always liked that lass out of hate full eight no matter what is done to her she still found time's to laugh and have a good time
I always found The Hateful Eight the most underwhelming, given there was A) a mystery element in it, only to be a cop out. B) and I guess I was having high expectations at the time, maybe some sort of grand standoff or some form of a epic climax. After listening to your analysis, I guess it does work because guys being violent for the sake of it. Given its setting where violence like that is the norm (being a Wild Western and all). While I still think this movie is still the most weakest of Tarantino's films (close to Inglorious Bastards being the weakest) personally, however I see the point of a film just showing casting violence in its simplist form, not in any good/bad light, just like it is.
how was there a cop out to the mystery ?? you don’t know who the off one is till he get up against the wall, you also woulda never guessed Sheriff Manix and Warren woulda ended being the two together and friendly lol
This is a terrible take 🤣🤣
Bro has weak takes.
What a great movie. I watch it once a month. Samuel L. Jackson is fantastic. BRAVO MY MAN.🌷
Nah loved watching Daisy get beat. The only character I was truly sad for in this story was OB
Poor guy was trying to do his job and got his guts blasted out of him
Or you could just say " it's a Tarantino movie" lol. also, i like your pronunciation of 'Wanton'
Amazing!
best movie of TARANTINO'S CAREER....SO FAR. BEST DIALOUGUE IN A FILM I EVER SEEN. I can't believe he says he is only gonna direct 1 more movie. I would hate to see him retire from doing this. he is by far my favorite director, writer, and even his cameo's are good. especially in PLANET TERROR AND DJANGO
This movie depicted anti heroes vs evil villians
That was interesting, thanks.
The violence is shown in a comic or exagerated way so idiots could see it is just a movie, like making somebody's head completly disapeared just by being shot in the face.
Um... you can keep your affection...
Is that you Oswaldo mobray?
violence in film is fiction
Well Said.
Great video
Pretty thoughtful
Thanks! I try to be.
You should have more subscribers bro
I root for O.B. in The Hateful Eight 😂
O.B was one of the only good people there and one of the only characters who didn't deserve to die.
I love how in these movies when people shoot they hit their target and the injuries they take aren’t survivable unlike other corny action movies
Am I a bad person I was laughing hard every time he smacked her lol
Had to stop watching after you called that Hill in Django a “mountain range”
OB is the only good guy in the movie
It's a story about truth and lies.
story about alot lol. Could say it’s ain’t racism with warren and sherif ending the movie off, they were the only ones beefing on sight over race besides the old man
I enjoyed the movie a lot,
Didn t feel long at all
violence in this movie hardly disturbing in comparison to say movie natural born killers or like. more like stylised action.
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I thought this movie got great reviews
I was rooting for O.B.
How did they hang Daisy the white guy was shot in the leg, Samuel L. Jackson was shot in the privates its impossible !
they had most of their arm strength left, albeit while experiencing excruciating pain and they could've thrown the rope over a horizontal roof support beam and had warren hold it while mannix got the rope around her neck, the scene cuts so that it can be left up to the imagination imo
Even though the violence are really bloody but Sam aim at the wrong blood chest and it's really funny mistake.... 5:38
Grumpy cat would like this movie.
The hateful eight isn't that violent. Yes the violence itself is graphic and suitably ott for qt but there isn't much of it.
The dumbest and the most boring movie of all times.
You must be stupid or boring
Get on with your life mate....
"Hatefull Eight" is still a mere movie - as in, i´d did not happen for real!!
EXCELLENT characters though - thx Tarantino & crew :)
You are talking waaay to slow, dude, with quite many pauses. Look at a Film Theorists video and hear how fast they speak.
There's no reason to speak as fast as film theorist do unless you're a 12 year old hopped up on pixie sticks. Try looking at other film analysis channels and see how they all talk in at a normal speed
It's better this way, as long as he can explain himself in a calm way.
Nah warren is the good guy cause is sam mother fucking jackson.
Everything he does os badass and cool. Doesn’t matter.