@BlueCherryX doesn't work for everyone. Most people I know and even myself can't stand rock/metal music. I find it annoying and it actually doesn't produce any positive feelings (no hate to rock music, but a small study doesn't reflect the wider populous). Some people would like to listen to classical music, hip hop, rap anything etc. Music choice as along with everything is subjective and one genre may not work for everyone
"LS" aka Legendary Streamer is a profoundly insightful streamer for the game League of Legends, known for his unparalleled patience with others when coaching them on his mains Annie, Malphite, and Tahm Kench.
Kudos to his step mom for recognizing and protecting him by taking him in even though they weren't legally a family anymore. Kinda sad it took someone outside the family yet beautiful. Also to the 3+ doctors who recognized it wasnt him being the problem and even went out of their way to help him. Wonder if they ever faced problems because of that. That would be nothing short of a tragedy
Part of this makes me feel uncomfortable, like I shouldn’t be hearing something this private. On the other hand, hearing LS be so forward about himself makes me feel like my experiences are important to bring forward as well. Thank you for this
@@jesseperez4185 If you grew up in a terrible household with a shit ton of allergies and problems while getting bullied at school and considering suicide, then essentially being homeless for some years before getting a decent income while still living with terrible depression, I wouldn't blame you for being toxic.
Watched alot of his interviews and streams for a long time, since the thoorin days. I genuinely enjoy listening to LS and do wish him well cause he is a good person. The way he saved Shadow in final fantasy, i hope he can save last shadow and have peace and relief
LS is incredibly wise and insightful regarding his current conditions. Like many of us, he struggles with the paralysis of analysis. A wise yogini once told me that a broken heart sharpens its intellect. Being intellectual is fantastic, but it leads to over analysing the simple beauty and pleasures of life due to a steady and distrustful scepticism. Alan Watts, and I paraphrase, once shrewdly stated that we doubt everything in life but do not doubt the instrument creating the doubt. We doubt: being loved, cared for, being liked, our own abilities, but we gloss over the faulty instrument (mind) that is doing the doubting. This said, I have no doubt (badum tss) that LS is on an upward trajectory to better health and wellbeing, turning those seconds spent outside of the incessant commentary of mind into minutes, hours, and so on he'll see improvement in no time. Thanks for this fantastic episode Dr.K (Democratic Republic of Korea) and LS (Literally Scaling).
DR.K or The Democratic Republic of Korea is a country in east asia constituting the northern part of the korean penninsula, with pyongyang as the capital and the largest city in the country.
Saw this on Twitch earlier. Best talk in my opinion. LS is so great to work with. I'd love to see my fave LoL-streamer get well. Please do a follow-up!
Aww, LS :/. Its always sad to see the pain behind the anger and rage. But, it's awesome that you came on and spoke to honestly. Well done man!! All the best bro
Dr K is so good at reading people. he completely leans into LS's personality to make him open up. he says all the things he wants to hear and in return he feels comfortable telling the truth
its all okay because it makes sense. Everyone has a different perception and Dr K just tries to understand his pov (whether he respects it or not is irrelevant since the problem is in LSs (or the patient's) head anyway
I feel like people who studied Psychology in general are usually pretty aware if the patterns of others and what to do and what not to do, My psychotherapist does the same, He sees right through my and my behaviours
There's something LS puts a lot of emphasis on, and that is people being misunderstood (even to the degree where he dislikes getting baseless compliments). He show a lot of sympathy and is almost protective of others even in situations where they steal or hurt him because he doesn't want to be the same as the people who misunderstood him growing up or using Dr. Ks words be the people that fall under the question- "Who didn't ask you, why you are the way you are?". I can only imagine growing up feeling like there's something wrong with you. Being bullied is one thing, you can shun away the beliefs of people who don't really know you but when it comes from your parents that is almost impossible to do. There's nothing wrong with who you are LS. You're sad about things you should be sad about. The fear in you is doing exactly what fear does, it protects us from pain by forcing us away from it and for you that is from going back to homelessness. Thank you for putting yourself out there for us! I hope you tame your over analytical mind and give your heart some room to breath without judging yourself for it.
The clearest image of LS that I have in my head is when he was casting a really big important game. Red side jungler chased blue side jungler around mid lane. Blue side mid laner came over and blew his flash to save the jungler's bacon. However this all happened at the worst possible moment for blue side mid laner, as he was just about to capitalize a massive advantage he had built over the past minute or two. But instead the wave bounced and now he was at a disadvantage. The other casters stated that blue mid laner was behind anyway, but LS went to great pains to try and explain that in fact he was just about to be significantly ahead. So yeah, my clearest memory of him is him doing everything he can to rectify misattribution.
I know this might sound weird. But listening to this conversation and understanding the conclusions they make about LS´s personality is extremely interesting and fulfilling. The way LS analyzes is INSANE. The pace he creates new conclusions and values them by taking everything into account makes me speechless. The fact that Doc is keeping up with him most of the time shows what a genius he truely is (both of them are)! This is obviously a blessing and a curse but it is so interesting.. daamn. Great video Doc & LS and enormous respect towards LS for sharing this in public!
Whoa, what a ride. Just watched the whole thing and I'm honestly amazed at this conversation and about how it ended. Really great ride and hope to see more of you 2 in the future ^^
@Instinct Well, we all know they are scamming people, mostly old grandmas, my neighbour lost $3k to a scammer. They also shit on the street and drink water from a river. A billionaire recently donated a lot of toilets to India, and instead of using them they worshipped toilets like a god while shitting in public streets, you can google this and see for yourself.
@Instinct Also, it's ironic that they think they are best at everything, if you ask any Indian, they are the smartest, their country is the best, they have the richest history, biggest heroes, they are even saying that Alexandar the great was defeated by Indians but it's not recorded in books, and so on.
@@KilogramHours yeah that's very true lol. I guess it makes sense since he was brought up thinking ahead by his uncles and his position now coaching people. He needs a break to get back to himself and not have to think so much.
I loved watching LS squirm here. He is one of the few good people that I've noticed on Twitch. I see a lot of his points of view a share similar pains, so seeing him try to fight the other brain was funny. That bit about altruism being a facade really connected with me as I have had the exact same thoughts. I really hope he gets rid of this baggage. Love ya LS.
I watched this on Twitch, and loved the talk. I hope LS is successful in meeting the challenges that face him, and it is genuinely good to see him take the first step here.
PLEASE DO A FOLLOW UP. I genuinely enjoy this interview or so and the ONLY video I listened from start to finish. Like HOLY its near 2 hours and want more?!?
These videos are just mindblowing gems to me, because I study psychology and these videos have become a part of my training. It helps so much to be with someone that treats you like a person and not as if you were broken.
@@dmitrijsmironovs7513 Do people usually? Whenever i try to think on myself i just come up with nothing, im like a void. Not in any bad way just that i have no real concept of what i am, or want to be Isnt that the norm?
Dima Mironovs you only really need to know how something works when it stops working the way you want it to, so no not all people know a lot about themselves. And also, there are levels of understanding, and I’m saying that LS has a high level of that, higher than anyone I’ve personally heard.
Really hope youre able to help him even slightly, he is such a genuine guy and people take advantage of that which honestly sucks so much. I love his content so much and he always puts so much into what he does
I can relate to LS a lot. I have the "summit syndrome" that he talks a lot about. Every time I hit some goal there is always something better, and I never feel satisfied. I also have the same "don't really hold grudges and don't have lasting anger." that he describes. Even people that do bad things have reasons for it, and if I'm affected by it I always feel like it's my fault. LS talked about the "it's my fault i got money stolen from me." And i was like, yeah that makes sense I would feel the same. Then Dr. K was like "How is it your fault if someone decides to steal from you. that's delusional" or something like that, and I'm like... oh.
That part comes from our over analytical nature. Crazy enough, I feel if someone steals from me, it means they either tricked me or played ms somehow which I usually respect intelligence-wise but of course I denounce it as being morally f'd up. People who are over analytical tend to not have as many problems as other people because, we have played almost 4 scenarios in a given time. Plus one more thing. We have no regret. I have no regret in my life because, I researched everything, cross shopped, read details, asked people, tested things out, looked at stats, etc.. That is kind of where I look at it from.
1:24:52 telling the guy that streams and talks 12 hours a day to shut the hell off talking so much is really something id call art. Amazing work you're doing here. Thanks to LS for the talk aswell.
Oh, I've wanted to hear how LS ticks for so long... this was so touching to see. Finally I see the bigger picture. Thank you so much LS, this was very meaningful to me. I struggle with overthinking, hyperempathy, generalized anxiety panic disorder... The talk of lonelyness growing up, the early learning and intellect... the feeling of no one listening to the reason why you are the way you are, but only trying to fix how you are now. We are so close to one and the same. Again, thank you so much.
The way Dr K was trying to make LS mad at the end was honestly SO BRILLIANT! I was getting mad like "LET HIM SPEAK". Then realized he was trying to make him mad. 😃👍
That grocery example really brought it home for me. This way of thinking is just horrible and shows that even the most basic thing is thought about critically. His childhood and the way his mother thought about him, just like he's doing now, is really sad.
@@shaunslays2151 why is that bro? I literally said I was here because I care about how he is... Just made a innocent joke don't stress it not like I insulted him
me being 21, im appalled at my peers who have had kids... even tho its 6 more than 15 i still think its ridiculous, I cant imagine what its like to be 5, and your mother is 20. There was no chance he ever had a good childhood in regards to his mother, his uncles were probably the only thing that he liked. And all the health issues, sexuality, self-worth etc, hes had it pretty rough. Sounds like the man just needs some family love, which he hasnt had since childhood.
The world needs more of this. The state of the species revolves around psychology, and I wish more people recognized this; namely parenting. There's no mystery as to why personalities and disorders manifest. There's nothing magical about our wetware. It's no wonder this young man developed these traits. Abandonment in varying degrees by both parents, a hostile, pressured environment, and likely poor to zero bonding stage as a baby. He refers to his disorder as the demon. I would save that title for his parents.
58:28 This was the ah-hah moment when I realized that my feelings of unworthiness and not good enough-ness came from my parents' divorce and I wasn't even capable of conceiving their relationship problems had nothing to do with me because I didn't yet have theory of mind. Thank you, Dr. K, for everything you're doing and helping all of us heal our samskaras!
Thank you for uploading these. I recognized myself a lot in this, and watching this felt great. LS seems like a really caring person, and I wish him the best.
The last 5 seconds of the video, made watching the whole thing actually worth it, I can see you understand his problems and you want to help him, just like noone has before in his life, give him kindness with nothing in return. Youre a blessing to twitch Dr.K
I love how ls has been so open and honest all this time with the community. Looking back to 2014, he changed the way i saw things in life. I just hope he appreciates himself more
If want to you see his stream. I have a warning for you. He is a High APM gamer that means he spams keyboard and mouse alot. Some people dont like it i liked it tho
Honestly, and im aware im a horrible person for it, when i saw the thumbnail, i thought hes some douchy kid. But obviously he's not, and its incredible how hes still smiling
I have a better question. Why do you care? Anyway I think the reason is simple. A lot of people don't believe you can fix a problem unless you take medicine, and Dr. Ks approach is different and it pisses those people off. There are probably other ones but that seems to be the most consistent complaint I see in regards to this whole shebang.
Question at 1:22:08 Friedrich Nietzsche: "the Genealogy of Morality" Voltaire: "Candide or Optimism" The 1st goes about it in a theoretical way and goes about the basic concepts in association with religion. The 2nd one is more by example of how to operate in the world. It sets the view similar to the one of LS at the start and challenging it throughout the book. Just posted this here for anyone interested. Hope I could help.
I this video actually made me cry hah, because other then the medical conditions that he struggle with i went through a lot of that shit too.. Parents that sent me to therapy, therapists that acted like my family, and Disconnecting myself from my family and outside world. I am fine now, but this hits home so hard, and i hope that LS starts believing in himself and gets happier and he should Believe in the people who believed in him... and the reason i started crying was because all these years i thought my mom was not so bad.. but in reality she put me on a stage and made me act out how to behave, think and what ever else to make her world look perfect for people around her. So thanks for this video, I appreciate and i learned a lot..
This video has described in me so much of what I delt with in my childhood of, not being able to be myself and always being the center of blame. Thank you so much LS and Dr. K for having this conversation as the AOE healing is REAL
This channel is incredible. I can't even think how I manage to pay attention from the very beginning to the end. This has already happened two more times with your videos. Keep the good work Dr K
This does really help a lot! I wouldn't consider myself as depressive but resently and here and then again there are depressive thoughts bothering me and I guess many other people. Just listening to this makes me think over my thoughts in a different way. I thank you for your content on this channel! Keep It up!
Do you ever feel like this idea of ''it's my fault, I could have done better, blaming myself makes sense because it's the only factor I can actually change'' is developed by some gamers because that's how you improve? Like in League, if you want to climb, you can't blame your teammates.
mad respect for his level of empathy ,i talk about this alll the time ,this makes me happen but he needs to give it to himself too ,i have seen this before .its so sad that u dont give your self a chance cuz no one gives u it
When i first watched LS my first thoughts were "wow this kid is angry" lol. but i liked him and saw pass that. But his story kind of related to mine. And the doctors explanation of normalizing abuse and not allowing yourself to feel or be yourself is true. I use to blame myself a lot too and i would get more angry. It's really hard to get out of this hell because it feels like your trapped in a cycle and sometimes i just want to scream.
You are doing some real good work Dr.K Having watched about 10 hours of you at least, I'm definitely feeling the AOE heals. Thank you, keep up the great work.
The way he talks about the rationalising bad mind reminds me of what occurs in spiritual teachings with the ego and the self. Self enquiry meditation can mess you up
Listening to this I can relate to LS so much, he has so much in common with me and as someone who admires him, I'm really glad. I'm also really glad he spoke out to Dr.K so that everyone can hear his story in detail.
When I was watching this, I was recognizing some of the patterns the extremely smart LS was diverting to at some points. Part of me couldn't help but relate to the thoughts, and the diversion. I just started nibbling around meditation like 2 weeks ago, and I think it might be working, because I finally noticed this! I've been starting to notice that when I'm talking/listening, my thought process "changes" depending on someone is physically present next to me, or not. Or writting with pen and paper all by myself. This is freaking weird, and I like it, and I'm slightly scared, but most importantly, I'm more ok with it. Wish you all the best LS, you were incredibly brave on this stream, and you seem quite awesome! Cheers everyone!
In sharp contrast to the detachment with which he talks about himself, you can so clearly hear the emotion in his voice at this moment. While he speaks of the goodwill he unconditionally extends to others, he reveals the injustice that was done to him. I broke into tears, man.
Its ridiculous in the best possible way how much stuff I get about myself and get epiphanies and breakthrough about me through all your interviews, the work youre doing is divine doc. Your AoE healing is top tier.
One of the worst things I see looking back on my depression a few years ago is just how powerful that feeling of the mind can be that „The others just don’t get me. I know where they’re coming from and I know they’re wrong or don’t even really mean it.“ That voice is so strong and confident. I think one of the hardest barriers to overcome is starting to believe that people might be right. This was a very hard battle for Dr. K and I’m not quite sure LS felt like they made progress or if he just played along at the end. He seems to be an extra hard nut to crack in the sense I was describing and I hope he’ll overcome the hurdle.
Yea, you can't (or at least it's very hard to) logic yourself out of depression, it's irrational. You can understand how doing something would be beneficial to you, but you'll somehow still justify opposing it, the human brain is very good at rationalizing our pre-established beliefs
@@doofmoney3954 I am not a stallion, I am just perverse Idk I used to not be able to comment Cuz I was overthinking so I don't have that many comments, you must have mistaken me for my evil brother
Dr.K is the Lvl 7 Soraka Main with 4M Mastery Points we all want and need! ❤️
That would match with LS aka "Loves Soraka"
Let’s hope Dr K can solve NA next in lol 😂
i hope LS will be LS "LESS SAD"
LMAOO
He told us a Long Story (LS)
KEKW
@BlueCherryX For you maybe. Not the same for everyone
@BlueCherryX doesn't work for everyone. Most people I know and even myself can't stand rock/metal music. I find it annoying and it actually doesn't produce any positive feelings (no hate to rock music, but a small study doesn't reflect the wider populous). Some people would like to listen to classical music, hip hop, rap anything etc. Music choice as along with everything is subjective and one genre may not work for everyone
I bet the real reason LS hates building Morello is because it reduces AoE Healing
this is pure gold
Actually it AoE reduces healing
@@HALPQT poetic license
You win.
Today was a bad day. Thank you for this comment.
It fucking killed me.
I have a lot of respect for LS. So empathic. So freakin intelligent.. and he dares to be so vulnerable. MAD RESPECT.
He is egoistic prick
@@wooshbait36 but he knows how to use correct grammar
@@barnie321 Yeah and I know how to speak 5 languages, you want to add anything else?
@@wooshbait36 Imagine speaking 5 languages and you cant actually speak it correctly :)
@@rubirian4026 Can I just give you an award for the cringiest comment of 2020?
I hope that “LS” truly realise who he is... “Legendary Streamer”
"LS" aka Legendary Streamer is a profoundly insightful streamer for the game League of Legends, known for his unparalleled patience with others when coaching them on his mains Annie, Malphite, and Tahm Kench.
Kudos to his step mom for recognizing and protecting him by taking him in even though they weren't legally a family anymore. Kinda sad it took someone outside the family yet beautiful.
Also to the 3+ doctors who recognized it wasnt him being the problem and even went out of their way to help him. Wonder if they ever faced problems because of that. That would be nothing short of a tragedy
Part of this makes me feel uncomfortable, like I shouldn’t be hearing something this private. On the other hand, hearing LS be so forward about himself makes me feel like my experiences are important to bring forward as well. Thank you for this
*In Indian Dad accent* "enginear, ekonomist, phinance" brilliant
Jesus, take notes from Dr. K
1:21:35 If anyone wanted to see
phinance LOL
Bruh that's legit!
OMEGALUL
Been following LS for a long time and you quite recently so this was a blast to watch live
LMao i was like DAM THIS toxic LS I Known for a while is about to get WOKE FROM HIS TOXCITIY
@@jesseperez4185 If you grew up in a terrible household with a shit ton of allergies and problems while getting bullied at school and considering suicide, then essentially being homeless for some years before getting a decent income while still living with terrible depression, I wouldn't blame you for being toxic.
Same lol. I used to have him as a Facebook friend during the sc2 days.
@@okisweirdstories damn what the hell, still crazy seeing people i see as almost celebrities being fans at the same time
@@okisweirdstories i can't believe life intersects like this
Watched alot of his interviews and streams for a long time, since the thoorin days. I genuinely enjoy listening to LS and do wish him well cause he is a good person.
The way he saved Shadow in final fantasy, i hope he can save last shadow and have peace and relief
@Enniovativ stop
@Enniovativ i can agree to this. its kinda mesmerizing and fascinating when you get to this point and kind sad at the same time >.>
LS is incredibly wise and insightful regarding his current conditions. Like many of us, he struggles with the paralysis of analysis. A wise yogini once told me that a broken heart sharpens its intellect. Being intellectual is fantastic, but it leads to over analysing the simple beauty and pleasures of life due to a steady and distrustful scepticism. Alan Watts, and I paraphrase, once shrewdly stated that we doubt everything in life but do not doubt the instrument creating the doubt. We doubt: being loved, cared for, being liked, our own abilities, but we gloss over the faulty instrument (mind) that is doing the doubting. This said, I have no doubt (badum tss) that LS is on an upward trajectory to better health and wellbeing, turning those seconds spent outside of the incessant commentary of mind into minutes, hours, and so on he'll see improvement in no time. Thanks for this fantastic episode Dr.K (Democratic Republic of Korea) and LS (Literally Scaling).
Very well articulated, my friend.
Literally Scaling hahaha fucking 4head
Lovely Said.
idk man maybe youre not as smart as youd like to think you are
@@loop4x454 Please explain.
DR.K or The Democratic Republic of Korea is a country in east asia constituting the northern part of the korean penninsula, with pyongyang as the capital and the largest city in the country.
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Snake Oil Mastermind well its the DPRK but go off
DR.K aka "Dragon Killer" is an ability from Final Fantasy Brave Exvius which increases physical damage against dragons by 50%
A.K.A BETTER KOREA
@@realauthenthickpopfannosar7304 baysd
Saw this on Twitch earlier. Best talk in my opinion. LS is so great to work with. I'd love to see my fave LoL-streamer get well. Please do a follow-up!
I agree. Gave a thumbs up to this comment, would love a follow-up.
Please follow up, this guy is very smart
The follow-up has been there 2½ month now
Aww, LS :/.
Its always sad to see the pain behind the anger and rage.
But, it's awesome that you came on and spoke to honestly. Well done man!!
All the best bro
Dr K is so good at reading people. he completely leans into LS's personality to make him open up. he says all the things he wants to hear and in return he feels comfortable telling the truth
its all okay because it makes sense. Everyone has a different perception and Dr K just tries to understand his pov (whether he respects it or not is irrelevant since the problem is in LSs (or the patient's) head anyway
I feel like people who studied Psychology in general are usually pretty aware if the patterns of others and what to do and what not to do, My psychotherapist does the same, He sees right through my and my behaviours
Yep. Dr K is a master sociopath who can tell you exactly what you want to hear.
@@hem9483 NA
There's something LS puts a lot of emphasis on, and that is people being misunderstood (even to the degree where he dislikes getting baseless compliments).
He show a lot of sympathy and is almost protective of others even in situations where they steal or hurt him because he doesn't want to be the same as the people who misunderstood him growing up or using Dr. Ks words be the people that fall under the question- "Who didn't ask you, why you are the way you are?".
I can only imagine growing up feeling like there's something wrong with you. Being bullied is one thing, you can shun away the beliefs of people who don't really know you but when it comes from your parents that is almost impossible to do.
There's nothing wrong with who you are LS. You're sad about things you should be sad about. The fear in you is doing exactly what fear does, it protects us from pain by forcing us away from it and for you that is from going back to homelessness.
Thank you for putting yourself out there for us! I hope you tame your over analytical mind and give your heart some room to breath without judging yourself for it.
The clearest image of LS that I have in my head is when he was casting a really big important game. Red side jungler chased blue side jungler around mid lane. Blue side mid laner came over and blew his flash to save the jungler's bacon. However this all happened at the worst possible moment for blue side mid laner, as he was just about to capitalize a massive advantage he had built over the past minute or two. But instead the wave bounced and now he was at a disadvantage. The other casters stated that blue mid laner was behind anyway, but LS went to great pains to try and explain that in fact he was just about to be significantly ahead.
So yeah, my clearest memory of him is him doing everything he can to rectify misattribution.
I am continually impressed with everyone who can come on and publicly speak about their feelings.
I absolutely loved this chat.
LS and Dr. K's chemistry is great haha.
I hope they keep talking and have follow up conversations
I know this might sound weird. But listening to this conversation and understanding the conclusions they make about LS´s personality is extremely interesting and fulfilling. The way LS analyzes is INSANE. The pace he creates new conclusions and values them by taking everything into account makes me speechless. The fact that Doc is keeping up with him most of the time shows what a genius he truely is (both of them are)! This is obviously a blessing and a curse but it is so interesting.. daamn. Great video Doc & LS and enormous respect towards LS for sharing this in public!
Whoa, what a ride. Just watched the whole thing and I'm honestly amazed at this conversation and about how it ended. Really great ride and hope to see more of you 2 in the future ^^
Dr K is a legend in the making
Already is a legend. His AoE heals will be remembered for a very long time.
Frucks He makes me glad that I was born in this generation
@@Nitodvd He is Indian tho :-(
@Instinct Well, we all know they are scamming people, mostly old grandmas, my neighbour lost $3k to a scammer. They also shit on the street and drink water from a river. A billionaire recently donated a lot of toilets to India, and instead of using them they worshipped toilets like a god while shitting in public streets, you can google this and see for yourself.
@Instinct Also, it's ironic that they think they are best at everything, if you ask any Indian, they are the smartest, their country is the best, they have the richest history, biggest heroes, they are even saying that Alexandar the great was defeated by Indians but it's not recorded in books, and so on.
LS has a very analytic way of thinking so this will be interesting to see how Dr.K dives into his thoughts.
forget thoughts lets dive in the feels
@@AXharoth you ready?
@@JusBlayze85 yup
I love that the main conclusion for LS to get into a better mental state is to stop analyzing so much. Its like some ironic twist.
@@KilogramHours yeah that's very true lol. I guess it makes sense since he was brought up thinking ahead by his uncles and his position now coaching people. He needs a break to get back to himself and not have to think so much.
Love your work Dr. K! I feel better with my depression every day since i started watching your videos
I loved watching LS squirm here. He is one of the few good people that I've noticed on Twitch. I see a lot of his points of view a share similar pains, so seeing him try to fight the other brain was funny. That bit about altruism being a facade really connected with me as I have had the exact same thoughts. I really hope he gets rid of this baggage. Love ya LS.
I watched this on Twitch, and loved the talk. I hope LS is successful in meeting the challenges that face him, and it is genuinely good to see him take the first step here.
PLEASE DO A FOLLOW UP. I genuinely enjoy this interview or so and the ONLY video I listened from start to finish. Like HOLY its near 2 hours and want more?!?
These videos are just mindblowing gems to me, because I study psychology and these videos have become a part of my training.
It helps so much to be with someone that treats you like a person and not as if you were broken.
Read Carl Rogers
@@yourunemployedfriendat2pm He is already on my reading list :-)
LS knows himself so god damn well holy damn this talk is crazy
how does this make any sense? dont you know yourself? if not then im worried for you bud
@@dmitrijsmironovs7513 Do people usually? Whenever i try to think on myself i just come up with nothing, im like a void. Not in any bad way just that i have no real concept of what i am, or want to be
Isnt that the norm?
Dima Mironovs you only really need to know how something works when it stops working the way you want it to, so no not all people know a lot about themselves. And also, there are levels of understanding, and I’m saying that LS has a high level of that, higher than anyone I’ve personally heard.
Dima Mironovs B U D
@@GrubblinMoose +1
This channel is honestly fucking amazing. This Dr. Interests me and makes me happy. Not much in the world does this lmao
Really hope youre able to help him even slightly, he is such a genuine guy and people take advantage of that which honestly sucks so much. I love his content so much and he always puts so much into what he does
All of this hits really close to home for me.
I can relate to LS a lot. I have the "summit syndrome" that he talks a lot about. Every time I hit some goal there is always something better, and I never feel satisfied. I also have the same "don't really hold grudges and don't have lasting anger." that he describes. Even people that do bad things have reasons for it, and if I'm affected by it I always feel like it's my fault. LS talked about the "it's my fault i got money stolen from me." And i was like, yeah that makes sense I would feel the same. Then Dr. K was like "How is it your fault if someone decides to steal from you. that's delusional" or something like that, and I'm like... oh.
That part comes from our over analytical nature. Crazy enough, I feel if someone steals from me, it means they either tricked me or played ms somehow which I usually respect intelligence-wise but of course I denounce it as being morally f'd up.
People who are over analytical tend to not have as many problems as other people because, we have played almost 4 scenarios in a given time. Plus one more thing. We have no regret.
I have no regret in my life because, I researched everything, cross shopped, read details, asked people, tested things out, looked at stats, etc..
That is kind of where I look at it from.
1:24:52 telling the guy that streams and talks 12 hours a day to shut the hell off talking so much is really something id call art.
Amazing work you're doing here. Thanks to LS for the talk aswell.
Oh, I've wanted to hear how LS ticks for so long... this was so touching to see. Finally I see the bigger picture.
Thank you so much LS, this was very meaningful to me. I struggle with overthinking, hyperempathy, generalized anxiety panic disorder... The talk of lonelyness growing up, the early learning and intellect... the feeling of no one listening to the reason why you are the way you are, but only trying to fix how you are now. We are so close to one and the same.
Again, thank you so much.
LS getting irl coaching Pog
Okay, this dude needs to talk to Tarzaned lmao
Joako184 that would be a conversation I’d pay to see lmao
Yes
holy fuck yes
AGoodUsername t r u e, esp after his breakdown :(
or Tyler1 / IWDominate
49:20 woah Long Schlong , the pain in his eyes n voice . Godamn I love his league content , but just the way his mind works ; blows me away
The way Dr K was trying to make LS mad at the end was honestly SO BRILLIANT! I was getting mad like "LET HIM SPEAK". Then realized he was trying to make him mad. 😃👍
now i wanna give LS a homie hug
i can relate to this guy, my hell is almost over hope he gets through his
That grocery example really brought it home for me. This way of thinking is just horrible and shows that even the most basic thing is thought about critically. His childhood and the way his mother thought about him, just like he's doing now, is really sad.
1:25:25
Dr. K: You're analyzing again, stop that
LS: *smiles*
Dr. K: *smiles*
Dude this was so sad but it was cool that Dr. K saw hope
1:06:55 Tricking myself into getting healed because I would consciously avoid getting healed.... thats a Really Good analogy
LS aka Loves Sanchovies
yeah thats right we out here aswell caring for our bois
probably not the right place for that bud
@@shaunslays2151 why is that bro? I literally said I was here because I care about how he is...
Just made a innocent joke don't stress it not like I insulted him
André Ramos sure they had a big argument recently bud
@@shaunslays2151 I saw his stream 2 days ago and they called for like 4 hours or more
When was this argument?
@@shaunslays2151the only option is today's stream I guess but didn't hear of it
When was it
I reaaally hope Dr. K can talk to Daniel from 'Hiding in my room'. Could be so bad or so good XD
The legendary title maker
Oh shit im not sure if Dr. K is really ready about that one
OMG yess hahaha
Oh no. Hiding in my room is a whole nother beast in himself.
He's too busy cheating
holy shit his mom had him at 15? thats so insane, his uncles were like his older brothers
me being 21, im appalled at my peers who have had kids... even tho its 6 more than 15 i still think its ridiculous, I cant imagine what its like to be 5, and your mother is 20. There was no chance he ever had a good childhood in regards to his mother, his uncles were probably the only thing that he liked. And all the health issues, sexuality, self-worth etc, hes had it pretty rough. Sounds like the man just needs some family love, which he hasnt had since childhood.
The world needs more of this. The state of the species revolves around psychology, and I wish more people recognized this; namely parenting. There's no mystery as to why personalities and disorders manifest. There's nothing magical about our wetware. It's no wonder this young man developed these traits. Abandonment in varying degrees by both parents, a hostile, pressured environment, and likely poor to zero bonding stage as a baby. He refers to his disorder as the demon. I would save that title for his parents.
that's nutty, everyone should have therapy
Never thought this crossover would happen
I am literally on the verge of tears several times its hard to hear ls talk about it. Dr k is asking all the right questions.
1:41:00 was such SOOO satisfying! I love LS and I so never realized his analogies were like that! Amazing stuff!@!! :D:D
58:28 This was the ah-hah moment when I realized that my feelings of unworthiness and not good enough-ness came from my parents' divorce and I wasn't even capable of conceiving their relationship problems had nothing to do with me because I didn't yet have theory of mind.
Thank you, Dr. K, for everything you're doing and helping all of us heal our samskaras!
greatest interview so far
hear him talk about his uncles writing down combos and health percentages and analyze the game reminds me a lot of LS' methods of looking at the game
Definitely took after them
I was shocked at how close this was to home. I've never had deep anxiety or depression but I feel I can relate a lot to how LS mind works.
Thank you for uploading these. I recognized myself a lot in this, and watching this felt great. LS seems like a really caring person, and I wish him the best.
The last 5 seconds of the video, made watching the whole thing actually worth it, I can see you understand his problems and you want to help him, just like noone has before in his life, give him kindness with nothing in return. Youre a blessing to twitch Dr.K
please talk with ls more, this guy is an amazing person
This sweet man was on the verge of tears so many times. We love you LS stay strong man.
I love how ls has been so open and honest all this time with the community. Looking back to 2014, he changed the way i saw things in life. I just hope he appreciates himself more
Makes sense that an analyst is always analyzing.
I want this man to stay as healthy as possible and live the best and happiest life ever possible.
Never saw LS's Stream. He seems like a really cool guy. :)
Best guy
@@not_Kaizo best coach
If want to you see his stream. I have a warning for you. He is a High APM gamer that means he spams keyboard and mouse alot. Some people dont like it i liked it tho
Tune into lck sometime, he's a caster too, he and Atlus are too charming together
Honestly, and im aware im a horrible person for it, when i saw the thumbnail, i thought hes some douchy kid. But obviously he's not, and its incredible how hes still smiling
Learning how to psychoanalyze oneself has been so much easier with your videos and meditating. Thank you
How does anyone dislike this video? Like whats wrong with you, this is 100% wholesome and positive, whats to dislike
bc they prob were like gaaaaaaaaaaaayee
I have a better question. Why do you care?
Anyway I think the reason is simple. A lot of people don't believe you can fix a problem unless you take medicine, and Dr. Ks approach is different and it pisses those people off. There are probably other ones but that seems to be the most consistent complaint I see in regards to this whole shebang.
Question at 1:22:08
Friedrich Nietzsche: "the Genealogy of Morality"
Voltaire: "Candide or Optimism"
The 1st goes about it in a theoretical way and goes about the basic concepts in association with religion. The 2nd one is more by example of how to operate in the world. It sets the view similar to the one of LS at the start and challenging it throughout the book.
Just posted this here for anyone interested. Hope I could help.
I this video actually made me cry hah, because other then the medical conditions that he struggle with i went through a lot of that shit too.. Parents that sent me to therapy, therapists that acted like my family, and Disconnecting myself from my family and outside world. I am fine now, but this hits home so hard, and i hope that LS starts believing in himself and gets happier and he should Believe in the people who believed in him... and the reason i started crying was because all these years i thought my mom was not so bad.. but in reality she put me on a stage and made me act out how to behave, think and what ever else to make her world look perfect for people around her. So thanks for this video, I appreciate and i learned a lot..
Never clicked on a vid faster than this.
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Holy shit I've been thinking you guys have a similar vocal cadence and now I get to hear you side by side
This video has described in me so much of what I delt with in my childhood of, not being able to be myself and always being the center of blame.
Thank you so much LS and Dr. K for having this conversation as the AOE healing is REAL
This channel is incredible. I can't even think how I manage to pay attention from the very beginning to the end. This has already happened two more times with your videos. Keep the good work Dr K
This does really help a lot! I wouldn't consider myself as depressive but resently and here and then again there are depressive thoughts bothering me and I guess many other people. Just listening to this makes me think over my thoughts in a different way. I thank you for your content on this channel! Keep It up!
Damn, been waiting for this interview bro!💪🏼
It's shocking how he opens up. You can basically see how desperately he wants to get rid of this.
Do you ever feel like this idea of ''it's my fault, I could have done better, blaming myself makes sense because it's the only factor I can actually change'' is developed by some gamers because that's how you improve? Like in League, if you want to climb, you can't blame your teammates.
That moment when LS said he felt frustration at the Doc was incredible, literally a Eureka moment. Great conversation to listen to.
mad respect for his level of empathy ,i talk about this alll the time ,this makes me happen but he needs to give it to himself too ,i have seen this before .its so sad that u dont give your self a chance cuz no one gives u it
dr.k is like the ls of league of legends but for health if anyones caught on to it
When i first watched LS my first thoughts were "wow this kid is angry" lol. but i liked him and saw pass that. But his story kind of related to mine. And the doctors explanation of normalizing abuse and not allowing yourself to feel or be yourself is true. I use to blame myself a lot too and i would get more angry. It's really hard to get out of this hell because it feels like your trapped in a cycle and sometimes i just want to scream.
You are doing some real good work Dr.K
Having watched about 10 hours of you at least, I'm definitely feeling the AOE heals. Thank you, keep up the great work.
Thank you for these. It's nice to know were never alone.
listening to this actually helped me a lot, thank you.
Coach
The way he talks about the rationalising bad mind reminds me of what occurs in spiritual teachings with the ego and the self. Self enquiry meditation can mess you up
Listening to this I can relate to LS so much, he has so much in common with me and as someone who admires him, I'm really glad. I'm also really glad he spoke out to Dr.K so that everyone can hear his story in detail.
I just hope Windows eventually gets activated.
lol
Lmao
When I was watching this, I was recognizing some of the patterns the extremely smart LS was diverting to at some points.
Part of me couldn't help but relate to the thoughts, and the diversion.
I just started nibbling around meditation like 2 weeks ago, and I think it might be working, because I finally noticed this!
I've been starting to notice that when I'm talking/listening, my thought process "changes" depending on someone is physically present next to me, or not. Or writting with pen and paper all by myself.
This is freaking weird, and I like it, and I'm slightly scared, but most importantly, I'm more ok with it.
Wish you all the best LS, you were incredibly brave on this stream, and you seem quite awesome!
Cheers everyone!
damn you LS! you even managed to confuse Dr.K after 15 minutes
Respect for talking about it + even with the risk of people taking it out of context!
From the first time I saw Dr. K I wanted to see him talk to LS. I feel like there is some similarity between them that I can't quite put my finger on.
Man I LIVE for Dr K's knowing smile as soon as his guests say what he was thinking.
49:16 YES, LS. How I wish more people also thought that way.
In sharp contrast to the detachment with which he talks about himself, you can so clearly hear the emotion in his voice at this moment. While he speaks of the goodwill he unconditionally extends to others, he reveals the injustice that was done to him. I broke into tears, man.
Its ridiculous in the best possible way how much stuff I get about myself and get epiphanies and breakthrough about me through all your interviews, the work youre doing is divine doc. Your AoE healing is top tier.
One of the worst things I see looking back on my depression a few years ago is just how powerful that feeling of the mind can be that „The others just don’t get me. I know where they’re coming from and I know they’re wrong or don’t even really mean it.“ That voice is so strong and confident. I think one of the hardest barriers to overcome is starting to believe that people might be right. This was a very hard battle for Dr. K and I’m not quite sure LS felt like they made progress or if he just played along at the end. He seems to be an extra hard nut to crack in the sense I was describing and I hope he’ll overcome the hurdle.
Yea, you can't (or at least it's very hard to) logic yourself out of depression, it's irrational. You can understand how doing something would be beneficial to you, but you'll somehow still justify opposing it, the human brain is very good at rationalizing our pre-established beliefs
We need S01 E02 NOWW !!! Make it happen Dr.K and LS
this pilot episode was amazing need more
@@yoruichixx6951 this was long pilot tho
It's not your fault. [Good Will Hunting]
WHAT ARE THE ODDS
1/100000
Twitch is a small place
I swear I’ve seen your comments before
@@doofmoney3954 I am not a stallion, I am just perverse
Idk I used to not be able to comment Cuz I was overthinking so I don't have that many comments, you must have mistaken me for my evil brother
@@golden-sun no way is this walter
LS broke all my mouses man! he said click more and now i have to buy a mouse a week! haha :D ive been watching ls for years now i love this guy
Could you talk to IWillDominate?
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