@@DylanLustick 100k plus blood, sweat and tears in your garage learning everything you need to know to not pay for labor on top of it all. It’s all SO worth it. I’m excited to see another fifth gen channel on the come up. Let me know if you ever need help with anything! We are a community 🫶
Performance is a long term process, you either wait for deals or you pay for the "in the moment" experience. I have pieced together a SS2 mainly from Gwatney including converter, trunnion upgrade, timing chain upgrade as well as the usuals(lifters, bolts, dampener etc) and have spent well under 2k including some suspension parts and 3.91 gears. So it can be done cheaper if you know where AND when to buy. Best advice i got and can pass along is; take time to build once thus spending only one. Firm handshakes on doing all your work.
Thanks a lot for the info and the insights! as a Gen5 Camaro owner, this is exactly the kind of content I was looking for. Now I know what to expect and what to look out for.
You have no idea how much I appreciate your video! I have been looking for this exact kind of info. I have a 2015 Camaro, and I want to get rid of the AFM/DOD nonsense, and getting the choppy cam. You rock man! I live in CO...do you know any installers out here?
Glad you found the video helpful my man! If you have any questions just let me know and I’ll do my best to answer them for you. And unfortunately I wouldn’t know of any installers out in CO, but I’m sure a good LS shop wouldn’t be hard to find. If you haven’t already I’d check the Camaro 5th generation group on Facebook and ask there. Thanks for watching man 🙏🏾
Hey man, really appreciate the video. Def will be sharing to a lot of my buddies. We are all thinking of getting ss’s this summer with tsp cams. Helps a lot with how much we are about to fart out the penny bucket lol!
Cool I respect your opinion and price breakdown. I have a 2018 I want to do cam and headers. I will probably do a new intake and throttle body. The lifters and rods as well as the other parts that go into the heads.Plugs and fluids and tune. I don’t think I can do that work myself I have some knowledge but I never took apart an engine. I did change the starter on my BMW X3 I had to remove the intake and a lot of other stuff and buy tools. I spent $190 the shop wanted $1800.I don’t think I should touch the engine on my Camaro SS.
Definitely man. Lots of good shops around so there’s no down side to handing the car off. Plus the LT1 cam install is a little more involved than the LS3 from what I’ve seen. Those 6th gens move with a good cam set up though. She’ll be fun when she’s done.
I feel you on breaking stuff.... Usually it's just either bad bolts that previous owners installed or in the RX8 case, it got too hot and cooked everything (prev owner did) and anything you touch is like glass. Then frustration but I try to direct that away from the vehicle
Great video man! Very well thought out, very well spoken. That Camaro is bad ass, can't wait to see what else gets done to it, you got yourself a sub 👍
I appreciate the love man. And yeah it’s just a tint kit that I bought back when I first got the car. Kit is by BigWormGraphix and is the Charcoal option. It’s held up for about 3 years now so no complaints.
Thanks bro for the help i keep getting different anwers from other people but i see your honest, valley cover doesnt come included in the kit i believe is it needed and the trunnion kit??
@@normajorge9906 yeah so if you’re going l99 to ls3 the valley cover is necessary. And the trunnion isn’t “necessary” per say, but it’s highly recommended. The factory trunnion is just a bunch of tiny needle bearings and if one of them decides to go on you that’d be a bunch of tiny metal going straight into the engine. So, having the peace of mind, I think, is worth the $200.
@@DylanLustick the trunion is 100% necessary I almost lost my ls1 vette to it. Rocker blew up at high rpm, an outer dual spring exploded on me, and it also took out a chunk of piston, but not enough to burn through. Pushrods will 100% bend on stock engines and I've pulled them out of so many stock trucks it's insane. PRC have been tested to 1000hp and I replaced the Yella Terra's on my LS3 stick SS with them because the Yellas can be loud.
I feel like I got a great deal now. 2015 Z28 ls7... Heads fully built with all SS valves, Comp cam with Comp shaft rockers, Kooks headers, Fast 102 intake, NW throttle body and dyno tuned all for 8k installed
Nice man! That sounds like a killer setup! Unfortunately I had to buy a torque converter so that runs the price up a little. Unfortunately, I’m not apart of the manual superiority race 🫣
They’re just about the same price. If you’re daily driving then a VVT cam should be fine (assuming you have a good tuner who knows how to tune a VVT setup). The word is that the VVT cams make more torque across the power band then the non-VVT ones. My recommendation is if you’re dailying your car, just get a GPI SS1 VVT setup with all the best top end parts and call it a day.
What was the issue that you had with your initial oil pressure? Was it the oil pressure sender? Great video. My local shop in Memphis, TN, want about $5k to do this for me. It includes labor and parts. How much hp and tq is this worth overall? I would guess 50-75 hp from a cam install. Thanks!
So, when I deleted my oil cooler I put a block off plate that completely sealed the oil cooler ports. Come to find out that you can’t “block off” the oil cooler. You actually have to get a “block off” plate that redirects the oil through both of the little ports of where the oil cooler would be. If you completely block it off then your oil doesn’t pass through and you slowly lose oil pressure. So, I just had to buy the right part and it was good. 5K seems like a good price. And I couldn’t tell you because I don’t have a before and after dyno sheet. But most of these bigger cams will get you around 75 hp.
Ended up being a dirty ground wire on the back of the drivers side head. I’ve got a video series up on the channel of me solving the oil pressure issue if you wanna check it out!
Sometime soon I plan on having the heads off to port them, so when I do that I’ll take the ls7’s out and put some Johnson’s in. I’m not revving the car out too high rn so the Ls7’s should do okay for the time being. We will see though
@@DylanLustickbro unless you are looking for a max effort build the price of porting will not be worth the gain on a factory displacement LS3. Then again is your money but for the cost if max hp is desired you get a much better cost from a small nitrous kit from NO. I noticed you got an auto, best expense i did was adding a trans dipstick when i was doing my cooler.
@@johncrankshaft2886 yeah one of these days I’ll buy the dipstick from JRE. I still don’t understand why GM didn’t put one in from factory 🤦🏽♂️. As for the porting I’ll look more into it of course, but as time goes on I’m definitely going to turn this car more to the race car side. Nitrous would make for some good content I’ll give you that much 🤔
@@DylanLustick my info on porting came from Richard Holdener so i believe it to be correct with all the dyno sessions they have, the dipstickless trans are a industry standard now; the aisin 8speeds on GM/Toyotas also dont have dipsticks. If you havent done suspension work look into the Lakewood trailing and toe rods bro, right now you can snag a set for about $150 to help with traction.
62k miles on an LS is nothing. If the car was properly maintained it’s barely even started it’s life 😂. I got mine at 50k and she drove like brand new.
change the trans fluid every 20k with a fluid exchanger(they have hand pump ones at harbor freight, amazon...stick the tube straight down the trans dipstick...giggity) and thank me later (get a tune also)
Yeah eventually the heads are coming back off to be ported so when I do that I’ll throw some Johnson’s in. I’m not revving the cam out past like 6,700 so for now the LS7’s have held their own.
Well I haven’t been doing any launches from a dig so no not right now. But suspension is definitely the next thing on the list. Coilovers, lca’s, toe rods, subframe bushings, diff bushings. All of it. Might even go 15 inch conversion. We’ll see when we get there though. 🤷🏾♂️
I just did a full e85 tune with long tube headers & a cai pushing 401WHP on my 2010 maro and still got beat by a 10spd stang😭 looking to either cam it or sell it & get a c6 vette
I wouldn’t go as far as to say turds 🤣. 10 years ago 400whp was god level speed. But in the world of hellcats and 10 speeds it’s hard for these old pushrods to keep up.
But, if you can get a C6 then do it. It’s a better car in every aspect, especially if you’re worried about roll racing, weight and aero are everything.
@probation2propagation420 as soon as I get into the 10’s NA then I’ll throw some boost at this bad boy. But for now I still gotta do a bunch of suspension first. The boost will come though.
I’m not super well versed in the 6th Gen platform, but if you’re looking for a complete cam kit Gwatney Performance sells a complete kit, or you can do what I did and talk with the guys over at SMGspeed and I’m sure they can hook you up too. Just a matter of what you wanna do really.
@@DylanLustick haha it was a good video, keep up the good work. Car sounds great, I will say though, Kayla is right, it's a very slippery slope once you get to modifying a car, especially a pushrod V8.
not gonna lie your prices is up there even with a auto 2000 dollars for a package? and thats with out the other stuff and if you where not doing it your self that wouldve been labor on top of the dyno and tuning .-. i went threw 3 cams ain never got that high in prices o_o
It’s crazy how much of a price difference we had for the same modification. I have a manual car vs your auto and did the work myself as well. Dalton hooked me up too lol. What’s your IG? I’ll give you a follow and shoot you a message
@iamdylanlustick. And yeah man the manual guys usually end up spending a good amount less than us automatic guys. I also factored in breaking things cause… well I kept breaking things 🤣
Once you modify... there is no stopping! Just wait... soon enough you'll be $100K into a fifth gen Camaro like me! It never ends!!
If 100k is what it takes to have a 5th Gen as nice as yours then I’m game! Big respect with what you’ve done with your channel and your car 🫡
@@DylanLustick 100k plus blood, sweat and tears in your garage learning everything you need to know to not pay for labor on top of it all. It’s all SO worth it. I’m excited to see another fifth gen channel on the come up. Let me know if you ever need help with anything! We are a community 🫶
@@KaylaRundle See me personally, I’m more of a blood, sweat, and throw my socket wrench at the wall type of guy 🤣. But I appreciate the love 🙏🏾
@@KaylaRundlestop the cap 100 k
@@Hek323have you seen her car or followed her channel?! That car is insane
Performance is a long term process, you either wait for deals or you pay for the "in the moment" experience. I have pieced together a SS2 mainly from Gwatney including converter, trunnion upgrade, timing chain upgrade as well as the usuals(lifters, bolts, dampener etc) and have spent well under 2k including some suspension parts and 3.91 gears. So it can be done cheaper if you know where AND when to buy. Best advice i got and can pass along is; take time to build once thus spending only one. Firm handshakes on doing all your work.
Thanks a lot for the info and the insights! as a Gen5 Camaro owner, this is exactly the kind of content I was looking for. Now I know what to expect and what to look out for.
I found a 2013 2ss 90k miles 2 owner for 13k . These 5th gens are dope asf
They’re an awesome platform for sure! Enjoy her!
You have no idea how much I appreciate your video! I have been looking for this exact kind of info. I have a 2015 Camaro, and I want to get rid of the AFM/DOD nonsense, and getting the choppy cam. You rock man! I live in CO...do you know any installers out here?
Glad you found the video helpful my man! If you have any questions just let me know and I’ll do my best to answer them for you. And unfortunately I wouldn’t know of any installers out in CO, but I’m sure a good LS shop wouldn’t be hard to find. If you haven’t already I’d check the Camaro 5th generation group on Facebook and ask there. Thanks for watching man 🙏🏾
Great breakdown brother. Im looking to do the exact same package. Thanks for the breakdown.
You’ll love it. Thanks for watching 🙏🏾
Hey man, really appreciate the video. Def will be sharing to a lot of my buddies. We are all thinking of getting ss’s this summer with tsp cams. Helps a lot with how much we are about to fart out the penny bucket lol!
It’s definitely cheap compared to other platforms, but the chop alone is worth $4k 🤣. Hope y’all enjoy the LS life!
Cool I respect your opinion and price breakdown. I have a 2018 I want to do cam and headers. I will probably do a new intake and throttle body. The lifters and rods as well as the other parts that go into the heads.Plugs and fluids and tune. I don’t think I can do that work myself I have some knowledge but I never took apart an engine. I did change the starter on my BMW X3 I had to remove the intake and a lot of other stuff and buy tools. I spent $190 the shop wanted $1800.I don’t think I should touch the engine on my Camaro SS.
Definitely man. Lots of good shops around so there’s no down side to handing the car off. Plus the LT1 cam install is a little more involved than the LS3 from what I’ve seen. Those 6th gens move with a good cam set up though. She’ll be fun when she’s done.
can we get a build list/ what you bought for the cam swap
Just added basically everything into the description my guy. Thanks for watching!
I feel you on breaking stuff....
Usually it's just either bad bolts that previous owners installed or in the RX8 case, it got too hot and cooked everything (prev owner did) and anything you touch is like glass. Then frustration but I try to direct that away from the vehicle
Yup. At this point I’ve abandoned torquing everything to “spec.” I’ve learned my lesson 😂
I feel the pain on the RX 8 ownership. In my defense it isn't running because I'm not playing ( blown the stage 3 clutch twice).
Great video man! Very well thought out, very well spoken. That Camaro is bad ass, can't wait to see what else gets done to it, you got yourself a sub 👍
I appreciate it man 🙏🏾!
Doing this build this winter got a sub from me
Appreciate it bro! You’re gonna love it my guy. 🫡
6k ish for L99, 3-4k ish LS3
No way. I have an LS3. The installation and tune alone is about 4 grand. I’d say a minimum of 5k
yoooo, im obsessed with your build, where did you get those tail lights???? or are they just super dark smoked
I appreciate the love man. And yeah it’s just a tint kit that I bought back when I first got the car. Kit is by BigWormGraphix and is the Charcoal option. It’s held up for about 3 years now so no complaints.
How does it run with the 3600 stall converter single disc?
Runs good man. No problems or bucking or anything like that. Honestly, wish I would’ve maybe gone a little higher on the stall speed.
Thanks bro for the help i keep getting different anwers from other people but i see your honest, valley cover doesnt come included in the kit i believe is it needed and the trunnion kit??
@@normajorge9906 yeah so if you’re going l99 to ls3 the valley cover is necessary. And the trunnion isn’t “necessary” per say, but it’s highly recommended. The factory trunnion is just a bunch of tiny needle bearings and if one of them decides to go on you that’d be a bunch of tiny metal going straight into the engine. So, having the peace of mind, I think, is worth the $200.
@@DylanLustick the trunion is 100% necessary I almost lost my ls1 vette to it. Rocker blew up at high rpm, an outer dual spring exploded on me, and it also took out a chunk of piston, but not enough to burn through. Pushrods will 100% bend on stock engines and I've pulled them out of so many stock trucks it's insane. PRC have been tested to 1000hp and I replaced the Yella Terra's on my LS3 stick SS with them because the Yellas can be loud.
I was told that the valley cover was not needed to reuse stock one? Also how are your ls7 lifters doing any issues bro!
I did the heads & cam on my 2023 C8 And it was $12k
@@Will-yp6ny throw a couple thousand my way for an LSA kit and fuel system please bro 🤣. I bet your car is a beast man!
I feel like I got a great deal now.
2015 Z28 ls7... Heads fully built with all SS valves, Comp cam with Comp shaft rockers, Kooks headers, Fast 102 intake, NW throttle body and dyno tuned all for 8k installed
Nice man! That sounds like a killer setup! Unfortunately I had to buy a torque converter so that runs the price up a little. Unfortunately, I’m not apart of the manual superiority race 🫣
@DylanLustick I'm sure a twin disc clutch is in my future after the factory one dies. I do track the car so it does get punished
@@mikewarren6774 hell yeah. You’re living the dream brother!
So it'd be cheaper not to do an ls3 conversion. I heard its better to not convert it to a ls3.
They’re just about the same price. If you’re daily driving then a VVT cam should be fine (assuming you have a good tuner who knows how to tune a VVT setup). The word is that the VVT cams make more torque across the power band then the non-VVT ones. My recommendation is if you’re dailying your car, just get a GPI SS1 VVT setup with all the best top end parts and call it a day.
@@DylanLustick but can i do the vvt cam with a afm and dod delete
@@nevertrumper7030 AFM and DOD are deleted regardless of which cam kit you get.
@@DylanLustick im scared
The rooster giving shout outs at 8:23.
I was hoping no one would notice the roosters 😭🤣
What was the issue that you had with your initial oil pressure? Was it the oil pressure sender? Great video. My local shop in Memphis, TN, want about $5k to do this for me. It includes labor and parts. How much hp and tq is this worth overall? I would guess 50-75 hp from a cam install. Thanks!
So, when I deleted my oil cooler I put a block off plate that completely sealed the oil cooler ports. Come to find out that you can’t “block off” the oil cooler. You actually have to get a “block off” plate that redirects the oil through both of the little ports of where the oil cooler would be. If you completely block it off then your oil doesn’t pass through and you slowly lose oil pressure. So, I just had to buy the right part and it was good. 5K seems like a good price. And I couldn’t tell you because I don’t have a before and after dyno sheet. But most of these bigger cams will get you around 75 hp.
@@DylanLustick Thank you so much. Makes perfect sense. Great info. Your video was really helpful. Keep it up!
What was going on with the oil pressure and how did you fix it?
Ended up being a dirty ground wire on the back of the drivers side head. I’ve got a video series up on the channel of me solving the oil pressure issue if you wanna check it out!
@@DylanLustick Thx, ill check it out.
Thanks for the breakdown!
Of course man! Thanks for watching 🙏🏾
Should of got the caddy race lifter’s instead of the ls7 especially on a big cam like you got.
Sometime soon I plan on having the heads off to port them, so when I do that I’ll take the ls7’s out and put some Johnson’s in. I’m not revving the car out too high rn so the Ls7’s should do okay for the time being. We will see though
@@DylanLustickbro unless you are looking for a max effort build the price of porting will not be worth the gain on a factory displacement LS3. Then again is your money but for the cost if max hp is desired you get a much better cost from a small nitrous kit from NO. I noticed you got an auto, best expense i did was adding a trans dipstick when i was doing my cooler.
@@johncrankshaft2886 yeah one of these days I’ll buy the dipstick from JRE. I still don’t understand why GM didn’t put one in from factory 🤦🏽♂️. As for the porting I’ll look more into it of course, but as time goes on I’m definitely going to turn this car more to the race car side. Nitrous would make for some good content I’ll give you that much 🤔
@@DylanLustick my info on porting came from Richard Holdener so i believe it to be correct with all the dyno sessions they have, the dipstickless trans are a industry standard now; the aisin 8speeds on GM/Toyotas also dont have dipsticks. If you havent done suspension work look into the Lakewood trailing and toe rods bro, right now you can snag a set for about $150 to help with traction.
@@johncrankshaft2886idk I ported and polished my heads and did a cam. Really woke the car up. Like wow !
thinking abt buying a 2015 auto ss its at 62k miles should i grab it
62k miles on an LS is nothing. If the car was properly maintained it’s barely even started it’s life 😂. I got mine at 50k and she drove like brand new.
@@DylanLustick hell yea tuesday im going to pick her up 😂🙏🏼
@@DylanLustick got her for a really good price
@e92cruz_ bad ass man. Enjoy it! Reach out if you’ve got any questions.
change the trans fluid every 20k with a fluid exchanger(they have hand pump ones at harbor freight, amazon...stick the tube straight down the trans dipstick...giggity) and thank me later (get a tune also)
Brownsville Texas? No way you from the valley?
Yes sirrrrrrr. 956 has great food, amazing weather, and the racetrack is an hour away. You can’t ask for more than that!
@@DylanLustick that’s pretty cool man,I’m surprised. I rarely seeing someone on RUclips who lives in the same place I do
Same here, Bnownsville Texas. PURO 956!
@@4BeatBox4 yes sirrrr
@@DylanLustickcrazy me too😭
That’s a big camshaft for ls7 lifters .
Yeah eventually the heads are coming back off to be ported so when I do that I’ll throw some Johnson’s in. I’m not revving the cam out past like 6,700 so for now the LS7’s have held their own.
Do you have wheel hop issues? If so you might want to change out your rear bushings to polyurethane.
Well I haven’t been doing any launches from a dig so no not right now. But suspension is definitely the next thing on the list. Coilovers, lca’s, toe rods, subframe bushings, diff bushings. All of it. Might even go 15 inch conversion. We’ll see when we get there though. 🤷🏾♂️
I just did a full e85 tune with long tube headers & a cai pushing 401WHP on my 2010 maro and still got beat by a 10spd stang😭 looking to either cam it or sell it & get a c6 vette
5th gen’s especially l99’s are turds until you put a cam in them. I put a torqstorm on mine and she’s at 650 to the tire!
I wouldn’t go as far as to say turds 🤣. 10 years ago 400whp was god level speed. But in the world of hellcats and 10 speeds it’s hard for these old pushrods to keep up.
But, if you can get a C6 then do it. It’s a better car in every aspect, especially if you’re worried about roll racing, weight and aero are everything.
@@DylanLustick need to put a torqstorm on yours for your next mods! Really great bang for your buck.
@probation2propagation420 as soon as I get into the 10’s NA then I’ll throw some boost at this bad boy. But for now I still gotta do a bunch of suspension first. The boost will come though.
I cant find the cam kit only the cam shafts.
I’m not super well versed in the 6th Gen platform, but if you’re looking for a complete cam kit Gwatney Performance sells a complete kit, or you can do what I did and talk with the guys over at SMGspeed and I’m sure they can hook you up too. Just a matter of what you wanna do really.
At what mileage did you do these mods ?
Just about 85,000 miles. So far the motor in handling it like a champ.
lower your RPMs or was it a cold start? lol
Cold starrrrrrrrrrrt
Dalton is good people and GPI is an amazing company and Ryan is the shit. Also don’t listen to @KaylaRundle her car is slow. 😂🤣😉
Ahhh nice to have the legend himself in my comment section! And slow is relative (especially when I’m talking to all of y’all) 🤣
@@DylanLustick haha it was a good video, keep up the good work. Car sounds great, I will say though, Kayla is right, it's a very slippery slope once you get to modifying a car, especially a pushrod V8.
So basically an l99 to ls 3 conversion
That’s exactly what it is
🔥🔥🔥🔥
not gonna lie your prices is up there even with a auto 2000 dollars for a package? and thats with out the other stuff and if you where not doing it your self that wouldve been labor on top of the dyno and tuning .-. i went threw 3 cams ain never got that high in prices o_o
F GM. Not paying premium for a dead car. RIP camaro.
I added ya on snap I need help with my car I’m having some wiring problems 2015 2ss
Got you bro.
It’s crazy how much of a price difference we had for the same modification. I have a manual car vs your auto and did the work myself as well. Dalton hooked me up too lol. What’s your IG? I’ll give you a follow and shoot you a message
@iamdylanlustick. And yeah man the manual guys usually end up spending a good amount less than us automatic guys. I also factored in breaking things cause… well I kept breaking things 🤣