Quarantined Planets
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2024
- Until recently a planet-wide state of quarantine seemed almost unimaginable, but in the future could entire planets be quarantined from the rest of space, and what dreadful causes could necessitate such measures?
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Quarantined Planets
Episode 433a; February 11, 2024
Produced, Written & Narrated by: Isaac Arthur
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Stellardrone, "Ultra Deep Field", "Red Giant"
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Miguel Johnson, "So Many Stars" 
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Gee, I wonder what it would be like to live on a planet you can't leave.
"I wouldn't know." [said with a John Wayne sneer.]
It sucks, life would be much more interesting and inspiring if humans were on multiple worlds.
@@smittyjohnson9554 assuming we could move between them, yea
Ugh, THE WORST
Lmao smartass
"...this isn't a space opera, so we don't have to assume villains doing evil things for the sake of twirling their mustaches..."
Hey, I like twirling my mustache.
Some people just want to see the world burn
@@hemidas As long as the fire don't ignites there mustache.
My ex uses wax to remove the mustache.
@@ThirtytwoJ Good that it is your ex then. All mustache oweners shall give such specimen a cost-free swimming course in the shark-tank muahaah
So you ARE a villain!
Ripley had the right idea when she said, "I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."
One of the most quotable lines ever.
meanwhile the miles of egg tunnels she didn't know about survive unharmed.
@@kingmasterlordIf that fusion reactor exploded it would have killed the eggs. Even if it didn't, at least there is no tech they could use to escape anymore.
@@VainerCactus0 no I'm saying that hypothetically those things could have tunneled miles deep and no one would know. with that birthing rate the hive definitely needed more than one egg chamber
@@kingmasterlord That is true, I never thought of that. Nuking the base to destroy any technology is still a good idea imo. I don't know what you could do about any deeply buried enemies.
They sabotaged Arecibo to prevent our one recourse: filing an injunction with Alpha Centauri.
And I thought it was to stop NASA listening in to their TV soaps for free...😂😂
...look, I'm just glad it's not at Barnard's Star, that would... Not be a great omen, y'know?
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go make sure there aren't any filing cabinets with signs saying "beware of the leopard"
And they did it by persuade people to cut maintenance founds.
Alpha Centauri is our candidate constellation to terraformed settlements. But we still need more neighboring extroplanets to launch some space projects.
""Oh no it caught the Human!'"
Because monkeypox was already taken...😮
@@seanhewitt603 I'm still concerned how the dog and child got it
It's called cooties 😆 🤣
Aliens fly flag at half mast after finding Earth has caught humans... 😢
@@MR-vi9lm coochies ? 😐
Man. As someone attempting to write a sci-fi novel, this channel has been BY FAR the most invaluable resource on the planet. It has changed and modified my story in ways I could not have imagined.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for all the work you put into these videos. Keep it up 👍
Yeah this guy goes DEEP into sci fi topics like literally no one else atleast none that I have seen on RUclips.
Just read a codex from 40k and you will have the same energy. You clearly haven't done much research into science fiction
@@Grinningfartking6969 You would be correct. I've only read about 90 sci-fi novels in the short time I've been reading. I need more.
In my comment, I praised Isaac's presentation of the 'science' rather than the 'fiction' aspects of futuristic speculation. I can read a thousand SF novels and only get a fraction of the science properly explained as it is on his channel. Praise where praise is due.
One of the short stories I started writing back in college had as part of the premise that all new colonies on worlds with an existing biology would have a minimum of a 75 year quarantine. Colonists could arrive and land would be cheap, but almost all travel off world would be prohibited for 75 years as a buffer against an unknown disease / contagion getting off the planet before it was fully studied.
Nursing a dog with cancer at the end of his life. Your voice is a pleasant distraction from the hell I am currently in.
"Its an ugly planet. A bug planet"
- Unknown Soldier
Cognito hazard has breached containment, planetary quarantine in effect.
Could you do a take on the mass relays ? Always loved the concept of bridges being left around inactive
Stargate episode late April, though no discussion of inactive ones, might be a fun one to do
I believe there’s already one.
A most informative look at another popular sci-fi topic and trope. Good work as always Isaac.
You must be his biggest fan. I have been watching him for years and I always see your comments lol
@post_singularity Gotta show support for the algorithm and its nice to get the hearts too.
I just began to understand Herberts use of the worms and spice as a mcguffin. It represents a world changing invention or discovery that reshapes human society and even causes evolutionary pressures to be exacerbated, much the same way the disovery of the properties inherent in crude oil, and how the pursuit of the resource can be both bane and boon to mankind, the sword of damocles (?).
Lord Nurgle in the corner taking notes on a SFIA video.
It would be nice if he mentioned that we should get a drink and a snack more often
Why would you put coke in the chips?
That AI generated office at the beginning is a good example of "worse the longer you look at it"
even then just the illusion of it looking good is amazing, and it makes it easier for artists because they'd only have to clean up the image, rather than create the whole thing.
but that'll only happen under anarchism:
ruclips.net/video/sMoTWFZjoYA/видео.html
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@@owenbelezos8369 i hate this 2 sides take. Nothing is stopping artists to keep drawing and rendering stuff by themselves. Being an artists turned into a profession very recently and now every artist feels threathened because their self imposed livelihood is on the line, despite being told over and over being an artist shouldn't be your career path because of how unstable it is.
Hot take, freelance/comission drawing and rendering should've stayed a hobby. Art is fed by passion, but passion fades when your life depends on that one hobby you turned into a job. Right now we have a massively saturated market in this category and these people living off of donations fearing for their livelihood are the ones pushing the hardest against AI art, claiming it will kill creativity and will remove our "biggest purpose in life", they should maybe return to religion if they really need a purpose.
Anyways, nothing stops artists from continuing their hobby. Despite automation there are plenty of woodworkers with passion for their craft, and they even sell their stuff for a very good price thanks to their honed skills and the fact that everything else lacks personality because it is mass produced. AI art is here to stay.
@@owenbelezos8369 "cleaning up" an existing image is much harder than making one that just doesn't have any mistakes in it. That's why commercial photography & drawing are such different fields. In commercial photography you spend days processing tiny details of images in editing software. In drawing you make a sketch in an hour & spend the next three hours coloring & shading it. Cleaning images is much more time consuming than making them.
@@owenbelezos8369 learn better advertising methods. don't just point people to an essay. anyone who'd go through that is already convinced capitalism stinks.
Containment barrier 1: District and sector the planet.
Containment barrier 2: Orbital ring dependency.
Containment barrier 3: Shield array around planetary system.
Containment barrier 4: System wide area of denial.
Last ditch effort barrier 001: One way ticket to new nebula or black hole purge.
Deep space stations: Every door is an airlock, built in sectors and wards easy to purge the quarantined viruses and detain undesirables.
I'm surprised subnautica wasn't mentioned when talking about pathogens. The Architects had a biolab on 4546B where they were trying to find a cure for Kharaa and one of them messed up badly enough that the bacterium got out and the entire place had to be locked down under quarantine.
On AquaTerra, we quarantine primatives from the bulk of humanity. The two most famous are the Uncontacted Tribes of the deep Amazon Rainforest and the natives of North Sentinel Island.
An example of self quarantine is North Korea.
North Korea didn't have any outbreaks.
What great timing, I've just started another stay at Planet 4546b
**booboop** _oxygen_
Huh, considering this debt survivor have, he may as well turn back and re-enact quarantine 😂
The plot of Symphogear is a quarantine scenario as well. Containment of a memetic/information contagion
aka human cognition. imagine that's why the psychopaths are losing, we adapted immunity.
Wait what the fuck I must have completely missed that. I thought the plot of it was like old mesopotamian gods coming back and alchemy or something.
@@sonwig5186 go to the last season, the purpose of the tower of Babel was to prevent the emergence of a god who wrote themselves into the DNA of humanity. The moment humanity is able to come together as one, it would be like the processors of a supercomputer synchronizing and coming online
Catches Covid (again) -> looks through notifications -> notices this.
On point as always Isaac, lol. Thanks for brightening up my personal little quarantine with your videos.
Another successful application of va\/\/\/
13:20 "chip everyone", wasn't that part of the backdrop to an old game called Syndicate Wars. fun game with cool human augmentations, however, it's so old the graphics would be shunned today. I would so love to get a replacement back for my aging one, oh well, lol.
A spiritual successor exists, I think it was called Satellite Reign. It's not as deep but much better looking. There was another but i never played it.
In relation to pocket universes for quarantine, or at least something like a zoo exhibit, is the trilogy of the Time Odyssey by Arthur C Clarke in conjunction with Stephen Baxter.
Lots of magic there!
I was expecting more references to well known examples in fiction, like Alastair Reynolds's Melding Plague, or the Library from Doctor Who. Still a good episode, but I guess I also wanted a little bit of analysis on how realistic some examples were too.
I had this idea of putting Earth in quarantine after the exodus of mankind... In one of my background stories for possible novels.
The point of the quarantine was that of preserving life and the planet entirely from being destroyed by natural or by artificial hands.
Some drastic solarpunk stuff.
21:10 I really like that picture.
There was an old Orson Scott Card book (Not a part of the Ender series) called Treason or A Planet Called Treason, that talks about an entire civilization that was quarantined on a prison planet. All of the founders had been convicted of treason of some kind, and ditched on the planet and were forced to survive. The inhabitants of the planet had been there for generations and had formed civilizations based entirely around the culture or profession of the founders of their family lines. It quickly delves into science fantasy, body horror, and moral/ethical questions, but was a really good read when I found it twenty odd years ago.
Within the first 20! New record!
"Malady of mind body or ethics" is a great name for a sci fi story
Maybe our local cluster is the subject of a very long running court case where no one is allowed to land until it's settled
The Alien homeworld would be a good candidate :) Before Ridley Scot made them into a modern creation anyway.
lol...what's your preference for the candidate alien homelands?
Our species being (partly) quarantined on Earth without knowing it is the premise of my first two hard sci-fi novels.
salute from Toronto love your content :).
Quarantine-, prison- and farming-planet describes exactly our situation
If you want a thorough example of planet-wide quarantine, Armored Core VI's own Planetary Closure Administration plays a major part in that game's story. Don't know if you play many games yourself, but I think you'd enjoy the narrative around the Coral substance as a general science-fiction reader.
Just to point out, at the risk of sounding like a broken record: "USE THEM TOGETHER, USE THEM IN PEACE" does NOT appear in the novel. It was in the movie. That was a Hollywood concession to the "benevolent aliens" trope of wise elder races coming to save us from ourselves. The imminent war between the US and USSR also was not in the novel, but was thrown in as a dramatic flair so that everyone back on Earth could hold hands in a "kumbaya" moment while watching the new sun in the sky.
not terrible tropes inherently, but I hate deviations from the author's intent for adaptations. If you want to push a different message, make up your own damn story.
Love the channel and I try to listen to episode every week, either when I go for a walk or before the bed...
I have only one complaint, background music being same between most of episodes is slowly driving me nuts.
Especially "Stellardrone - Ultra Deep Field" being in basically in every single episode. Is there any chance for more variety in the future?
I was switching it up but got some negative feedback on some choices so went back to a few prior scores till I come up with some new safe picks, I'll rotate some new ones in for march
@@isaacarthurSFIA Perhaps the community could submit suggestions and vote together on new soundtracks. (although I don't see any problems with the current trails). Just as the episodes are voted on.
@@brunocesarcerqueira2525 i like that idea
The Cytonic series by Brandon Sanderson is about aliens trying to contain humanity. 9:15 basically describes the setup for the first book
Isaac's videos are the only ones that I have to watch at 0.75x, way too many mind-blowing ideas at a too fast rate for my stupid silly brain.
Very important considerations!
Thanks for teaching the latest awesome discoveries.
I love that you invoked the term of "glassing" a planet. I know this is the right place to ask this question, is that just a term from the Halo universe, or has it propagated elsewhere?
An advanced enough space power could use kessler syndrome could be deliberately put in place to aid a long lived quarantine blockade. If anything coming up/going down needs to thread a needle it leaves a lot less chances for a ship to slip unnoticed past or survive a blockade fleet.
Thanks for another great video!
This channel really is something special... great episode, as always
Can you do pleasure planet next
Paradise planets are on an upcoming poll :)
Sir you're watching Isaac Arthur, you already know what it's like on a pleasure planet. :)
Paradise planet, so that's the more correct term
@@arjunsajith2198 unlike threedice....
Pleasure planet sounds much more seedy and therefore more interesting; staffed by clones, every sexual experience and drug, or is the whole thing in virtual?
Getting into some deeper layers of sci-fi,I enjoyed this one
Space Australia. Nuff said.
Skibidi toilet doomed us to another millennia of planetary quarantine.
It's looking like earth will be a quarantined planet again just before November.
I will not comply.
Dont worry it will only be for two weeks
that last for two years somehow
galactic years
Having seen some subnautica speedruns being stuck on a quarantined planet is really just a minor inconvenience
First thoughts i had was. Simply induce a Kessler syndrome event to quarantine a planet
This episode made me keep thinking of Sentinel Island.
that's not quarantine, it's a strictly patrolled border
We might just build gigantic ringworlds to sterilize the galaxy, but make it so that only a race of apes can activate it, who has never heard of the rings.
I think there is a great episode idea in Botworlds such as Stanislav from OA, i.e. machine ecosystems left from some form of non sentient but self replicating machines intentionally or unintentionally left on a world by another agency.
Not sure about this channel but this has made me wonder. Well See! Thank you.
Vernor Vinge explored the dangerous meme concpt in great depth in "A Fire Upon tge Deep"
Oh good one!
Yes, a very good topic.
The truth seems to me that physically quarantining is incredibly difficult while putting subjects into a virtual life without their knowledge would be just fine according to a morality that’s evolved with the capability for centuries. As life in Virtual might be preferable for a majority, as it promises godhood to everyone, removing a population from the physical universe might be considered a gift. What’s interesting is that this could happen in layers; imagine an already simulated society evolving to the point where they can be Space Nazis or something, and then uploading Space Mud People from within a simulation… and again, and again. In an infinite universe that would have to be the case, among the other possibilities!
What do you think, would you be more curious if the aliens had just told us "we are sheltering a new species that has emerged on Europa, do not interfere with their development." As opposed to just leaving the reason a massive ?
So that's why aliens abduct cows. They want to take some of that prion disease 😂😂😂
Amazing
Would you ever do a video on traveling to other universes?
Yessss I'm finally early to one of his videos 😊
Another fantastico episode! Let us not quarantine it like a dangerous memeplex. Let us spread it through the internet!🧐
26:57 A quarantine would answer the question of the Fermi Paradox.
No it doesn’t.
Can anyone tell me has isaac commented on the use of navies for interplanetary or interstellar civilizations, would species capable of leaving and entering a planets atmosphere still maintain dedicated navies? (The water kind)
The answer is no because our resident alien factions don’t use boats.
@808bigisland its just strange to me its never depicted im sure they would still be more convenient than purely airborne vehicles
Would they? I can see trasport ships being used but an actual navi? If you have thousands of satelites surveying the planet 24-7 with som strategic weapons plataforms you can snipe any potential pirate or rogue ship on the sea in minutes, no need to complicate things with navie fleets. Although i can see a very niche use for navies in subsurface ocean conditions. Basically only subs for deep sea exploration and combat given how much less efective orbital weapons would be on those cases.
Maybe aliens look at Earth as the interstellar equivalent of Gary, Indiana...how many tourists do they get? Not a quarantine as such, just not a pleasant place to stop...
The planet MIranda in Serenity. Wipe the records
As the days go on, i really start to think earth is quarantined from the rest of civilation
The video didn't really talk about methods on how to quarantine that much.
I think it would have tied in to the whole stealth in space episode.
I think another reason to quarantine a planet, which may have been touched on, would be for terraforming. Like perhaps it's a delicate and violent process, megastructures and processes literally reshaping the planet, and you would really rather not have people trying to settle on it or interfering. Maybe the planet is simply slated to be terraformed in the future and you don't want cities sprouting up.
That's something about terraforming Mars that I see not working out. We're going to establish colonies on it long before we consider terraforming and once we do we could have millions on the planet that would have their homes underwater or otherwise destroyed if we tried terraforming.
Not really sure you'd want to accelerate something to interstellar speeds within your planet's atmosphere, given that likely causes something far worse than a sonic boom. Plus the fleet quarantining a single planet has access to the resources of the rest of that solar system, and their infrastructure can be mobile.
of course not! you'd want to build a vacuum sealed mass driver that extends into space to minimize air resistance and the unnecessary weight of added fuel
Yeah that seems right. The only exception it seems is if the planet is so technologically advanced it acts like a giant starship. Like it can change it's orbit and move around the solar system.
Nothing's as permanent as a temporary government program.
Extended car warranty
Ah yes good old 4546B, Ive been stranded in planet wide quarantine before so Ill be ok
When I saw the title, immediately thought about Planet 4546B!
Sci-fi Sundays are the best Sundays
How would space shipping/trucking/trains work realistically?
😂 "Killamagig" 😂
Sometimes you have to quarantine planets... wouldn't want the tribbles, scourge of the universe, to escape!
If you look at North Sentinel island and everything that goes with it you find all the answers to our own fermi paradox.. some people care, more people dont, nobody bothers them, theyre protected, if we uplifted them what good would it do for them.. all the answers are there
excited for some good old, lithoids
Mmmm, fresh, ovem-baked robots!
I bet we've BEEN uder a universal quarantine.
Here's this for an idea: The humans are dangerous. Devastating, even. Why? Well, you see, they are incredibly magical beings. Why do you think there was so much worry about Voyager? We knew we should have put the anti-magic field outside the Oort Cloud, but that's expensive. We didn't know what chaos the miniscule residue of the humans' magic on Voyager would cause when it breached the field, but, luckily, it ended up being manageable.
I like the D&D take that our Earth is in an antimagic field. we could be a race of Archmagus juggernauts and not even know it. 999 in Arcana is useless if your MP is always 0.
Are we quarantined now? This would be a worth while show.
If there are any intelligent aliens, they sure better quarantine us LOL....
Prison colonies may be unethical - as an Australian I felt that!
Episodes on Homesteading and Quarantined planets and no mention of Pern. :(
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I love that RUclips is capable of posting comments in so many scripts.
Dark Forest Theory sounds more favorable as time passes.
Quarantine is only if you speak about a infection or transmissible diseases , informational quarantine is actually censorship, sometimes is necessary(you don't want good people to supply with information a hostile enemy), but usually is a bad idea, whole this arguing about banning ideas is under umbrella of "ignorance is bless" and big brother knows better doctrine.
Earth and humanity has been quarantined since the events of...
What kind of time passes outside the atmosphere of planets?
2:17 so what you are saying is that amogus could be the solution to the Fermi paradox...
I actually reread David Weber's Dahak trilogy just last week, which has planetary quarantines as a significant plot point. Spoilers for a trilogy that was originally published from 1991 to 1996). In Mutineers Moon, an astronaut named Colon MacIntyre is flying a solo mission on the dark side of the moon when his ship is captured and taken inside what he originally thinks is a base built inside the Moon by extraterrestrials. He learns that the Moon is actually a warship of the 4th Imperium named Dahak, which has been orbiting the Earth for 51,000 years. He also learns that the chief engineer had created a fake drive failure as part of an attempted mutiny. The captain order Dahak to flood the ship with poison gas and radiation causing the crew of 250,000 to escape in lifeboats, while the 3,000 mutineers escaped in sublight warships. All modern humans are descendants of Dahak's crew. As the first descendant of the crew to return to Dahak, Colon is made Captain and given the mission of subduing the mutineers who have remained alive through a combination of stasis and brain transplants. There is a clock because an extraterrestrial threat that periodically sweeps through the galaxy and was responsible for destroying the first 3 Imperiums has been detected and will reach Earth in less than 3 years.
In The Armageddon Inheritance, Colon takes Dahak to find out why they can't contact the 4th Imperium so that they can get help. They ultimately discover that the 4th Imperium had become the 4th Empire and that it had been destroyed 45,000 years ago because of the accidental release of a bioweapon designed to exterminate all life on a planet. Because the Empire had developed a mat trans that allowed near instantaneous travel over hundreds of light years, it had spread throughout the Empire, apparently killing all humans everywhere but Earth. When the weapon was discovered, all planets deactivated their mat trans, and most set up weapons in their solar systems to prevent a ship from either entering or leaving their system. Colon ends up going to the capital system of Birhat, where a computer charged with controlling Battlefleet and guarding the succession makes Colon the new emperor because he is both the highest-ranking Battlefleet officer and civil official. He had declared himself governor of the "colony" of Earth so that he could pardon mutineers who had assisted him and had pledged (under an imperial lie detector) to help defend Earth. As Emperor, he is able to reactivate the Emperor's personal fleet of planetoid warships (that are larger and more powerful than Dahak) and save the Earth.
In Heirs of Empire, Colon's twin children survive an assassination attempt that leaves them stranded with 3 friends on a sublight battleship hundreds of light years from either the Capitol or Earth. With no way to contact help, they head for the nearest star hoping to find Imperial technology they can use to build a hypercom. What they actually discover is an inhabited planet with an active quarantine system. They survive the missiles fired at them and reach the planet, where they discover an agrarian theocracy. The religion bans any technology powered by anything but muscle, water, or wind. When the computer speaks, they think it is the voice of God, and their holy days are things called Fire Tests and System Check. The kids need to get to the computer in the temple but can't use Imperial tech within 100 kilometers of that temple because of the weapons systems controlled by the computer. (The book doesn't explain why the Empire used the Metric System 45,000 years ago.) The kids need to equip and train an army to overthrow the temple so that they can get home. Fans of David Weber might recognize this book as where he got the idea for his Safehold series.
I wonder why a advanced intelligence would quarantine humans?
I have too many answers to write here.
Just here to make sure my idea didn't get mentioned 🤭😇
Oh no...
The blessings of Papa Nurgle and its Plague Marines...
MEGA !!!