I always imagine that if there was a situation where two hackers/cheaters were duking it out with each other, either both their PCs would spontaneously combust or somewhere, out there, some random server block detonates and injures two janitors on break.
ive played my fair amount of games with cheaters on them and when you get a blatant one against a closet one and they both just start to fly around the map and shit its never not funny
Fun fact, there's lots of interesting anti-cheat systems that used to work back in the day before cheating got this bad (I'm going back to black ops and around the time I was a fucking toddler lmao), these anti-cheat systems would keep hackers from playing with other people BUT it would let them join lobbies of other hackers, which meant that they'd end up being locked in mortal combat with other cheaters.
@QUAD849 Well, its not very hard cause most game anticheats go through your files on your pc and dont allow you to play if it finds cheats for their specific game
@QUAD849 if its a few yeah I can understand but when each lobby have hacker teams and your game is based on a punishing mechanic well yeah people will criticize it cause when I get killed in idk COD I will just spawn again in tarkov I will lose hours and hours of playing to get to the same level, this is the kind of game that needs a very good anticheat or the game will just get ruined
@QUAD849 'Kay, allow me to correct myself then: Guess we shouldn't get stronger police forces , I mean, not even the US can do anything about all crime.
I can finally stop ghaslighting myself saying that every death is my fault. Every difficult game i play i go trough a cycle of thinking everyone is sus, learning the game, and eventually understanding why i lose and often improving. With tarkov the more i play and the more i learn about the game the less sense other peoples plays make sometimes, i finally have scientific proof that proves that tarkov is just absurdly full of hackers, my gamer self esteem is free to play other games without feeling like it counts as defeat. This is like one of those folk tales about ghosts that cant ascend because regrets tie them to the world, but in this case the real world is tarkov and heaven is literally doing anything else
I´ve been banned from efts forums three times for bringing up how unimaginable easiy it is to get cheats and how many cheaters they are. I even gave them lists of names, cause two years ago player ids etc were straight up public in cheat providing pages. I got banned for that. Not the ones confirmed to have aquired 3rd party software with literal proof of it. I spent 100s of hours on this crap trying to get better and trying to follow all the big channels tutorials, learn tactics etc etc. It never mattered. I barely ever had a death that wasn´t suspicious, and two years ago i had a random squadmate that showed me some providers and their discords. It finally made sense, especially with the chinese marketplaces actually selling ingame items for real money
As a legit Tarkov player for about 6-7 wipes, it was a common thing even among legit players at the start of a raid and just face random directions and wiggle in hopes cheaters seen this and just thought you were cheating and left you alone. It's a whole psychological war game.
wait for the "Clara vs. Santa Claus" Face Off next X-mas season! Will Santa deliver more presents than Clara install cheats!? Will Clara's friends get any presents because then been naughty? Tune in next December to find out!
@@Lucas-mk8cxmaking people insanely mad is the motivation tho. I just be fucking with people not even killing them. I just fuck up your legs untill you have no more splints/cms’s
Hacking is a HUUUUGE issue in gaming and it's so sad that it's gotten to this point. I used to Play World of Tanks and can confidently say AT LEAST 80% of the top "E-sports ready" clans use hacks. Mostly ESP, Map pingers, and 'bright skins' (which highlight the areas to shoot on tanks.) After getting kinda inducted into the hacking community I saw how crazy it was getting with games like CS:GO, battlefield, and CoD too. THAT WAS 6 YEARS AGO. Nowadays I wouldn't be surprised if hacks were so good you could easily obfuscate them from your streams, anti-cheats, and even at e-sports events if you're sneaky enough. Worst of all is most hackers live by the code of not talking about hacks, not suffering the embarrassment of admitting to using them, and even outright denying they exist. TO the point they will start HUGE gaslighting arguments with accusers and do everything they can to "prove" there are no hacks in a game.
There's a new autoaim out that fluidly moves your mouse and you an adjust the speed of which it does it, to either be slow but efficient or "god tier" levels of accurate. It's so stupid. I don't remember the name of it, but it is a paid cheat engine with a couple other bells and whistles.
I mean there was that one esports game where right before this one team won the servers went down, and every time they kept winning there were connection issues until the opposite team won
sounds like the standard cod argument with how some random asshat will gaslight you for calling out a real cheater, claiming that "he's just good" or "maybe you're just bad"
You now understand that hacking is a pandemic in video games. It's one of the reasons why I've quit playing FPS entirely. Until developers start adding traps that auto ban hackers (see the recent dota ban wave) it will not get better. Most developers stick their head in the sand and pretend hacking doesn't exist.
The problem is that it’s hard to pin down the source and to take care of them efficiently. You can have a very twitchy anti-cheat that bans innocent players for something normal that happens in game; have it too loose, and hackers can get away with the most simplest of things. It’s like the bot crisis in tf2, they stopped one wave by finding the source, but now a new wave has come with a different source. It’s why devs pretend it doesn’t exist; to them, it’s way easier (and cheaper I guess) to act like they don’t know about it, then to actually do something about it. It sucks.
Definitely not only a tarkov issue and i 100% agree that its just a gaming issue overall and a recent one too, I just started playing hunt showdown again after 2 years and my very first game i ran into blatent cheaters, if im not playing league the chances of running into some guy hacking is just really high unless im playing valorant cause of its invasive anticheat
The only way developers can permanently with cheat producers is if they somehow find their identity and hope they are in a western country so they can sue them into the dirt for damages. If they are Asian, African, Russian, South American there's nothing devs can do to stop them.
@@dwightd.eisenhower2031 I cannot believe the supreme allied commander Dwight D. Eisenhower has weighed in on Tarkov cheating. What do you plan to do after using emojis??
I played R6 a week or so ago and out of all of my matches with a friend we encountered one hacker, The hacker was on our team and at first I didn't think anything was wrong when the first round ended and the enemy team started to say hacker in the chat. Next round starts and after breaching, ash (the hacker) drops hatch with his 1911 and immediately kills (headshot) a guy and ducks into a door way then immediately pixel peaks the last dude (with a headshot) and after watching the Kill came it became apparent that he was cheating, not evenly trying to hide it. It's the last round and the cheater is getting dumpstered in the chat, and after getting shit on for a minute and being asked why he cheats, he says "R6 is full of liberals huh?". These people are so pathetic that the moment you call out their lack of skill, they get bold.
Tarkov is by far not the only shooter with this issue, it has plagued many other games often in waves depending on how harsh the developers try and fight back. Sad part is it will still have to come down to better anti-cheats if you don't want or can't have players check each other gameplay or a proper report-replay system (CS:GO's overwatch for example, although possibly still flawed depending on how you look at it). And to enact a "better" anti-cheat it will more often than not need to access near root levels of your PC for comparably good levels of detection (like Valorant does). Most anti-cheats out there aren't developed for that and do surfaces level scans for software and checking game code if it's re-written etc. Combine that with a lot of players not feeling comfortable with that amount of insight into your PC (let alone the risk of someone somehow being able to abuse that), cheating will always stay prevalent within FPS games, unless there's new developments into non-intrusive anti-cheats or we start accepting the trade off of less cheaters for an anti-cheat being able to see a lot more within your PC than you might want it to see. Till that point it will stay a cat and mouse game with anti-cheat and cheat developers.
It isn't just cheating, but also a combination of desync. Desync is definitely worse than the cheating because even when you do get in a legitimate fight and you running behind a wall and you randomly die it is a bad feeling. You do mental gymnastics to as to how you died, but in reality you weren't even moving on their screen. The amount of times my friends and I got messaged hey why tf are you not moving and playing like a noob is wild.
@@pumpyronaldrump_4417 When a game is easy to cheat in and there's little chance to get banned or caught cheaters will flood to it in masses, especially if the game is popular and or competitive. Tarkov probably always had this issue, it only was hard to know for sure as a player how many cheaters were actually around, up till now with what the original video shows.
@spoon cheaters are players too. And when you have this many, you do have to ask yourself why exactly would people do this. I'm convinced there's more to the story than "it's easy".
create a honeypot: a section of data inside the game client that would never be read during normal gameplay, but that be read by these exploits. Each of the accounts banned would have read from this "secret" area in the client, giving us extremely high confidence that every ban is well-deserved.
0:25 that has to be like the most UN-aggressive rage quit I've ever seen. We should all aspire to be like this guy. Being annoyed, sure, but not OVER-reacting
lmao the wiggle is the best, instead of trying some elaborate series of actions to see if someone is cheating, you just wave at them through a wall and if they wave back they give themselves away
Game idea: make hacks an ingame mechanic. Aimbot activates at a certain range, wallhacks are turned on after 5 kills and you shadowban a certain player when you get 25 kills
I genuinely love the hoarding experience in Extraction shooting games and EFT was first step to love that genre. But it breaks my head playing where cheaters is destroying the game while developers don't do sh*t about it because their Anti-cheat system is probably free trial version. Rainbow 6 has same anti-cheat and it work more than whole BSG team against cheaters since first alpha stage.
They will always make more money by banning the cheaters and allowing them to buy another game key. Rather then just making a better anti cheat system. You wouldn't pay eft a subscription for there to be No cheaters, but cheaters will pay a "subscription" to cheat in eft, aka buy new acct when banned
@@MoreMoon you can but at least you get banned within a day of rage-cheating, in Tarkov you can rage-cheat all you want and as long as you don't come across a streamer you'll be fine
Had an instance just minutes ago. Playing my scav on streets, got shot at. Ran in a building and hid, doors, rooms. Guy just walks straight up to me like he knew exactly where I was hiding in a dark corner at night. Fortunately he said relax and gave me about 300k worth of stuff... but so sketchy from start to finish. How did he know to walk straight to me round corners etc....
hackers do not buy the game again, i just want to say that i used to cheat on csgo way back when, and i know for a fact none of those tarkov hackers ever actually bought tarkov, they buy stolen accounts in bulk (if they really care to continue cheating) and do it that way. it makes the company no extra money. i did the same thing with csgo premium accounts, id get like 5 for 20 bucks.
this reminds me, there was that one minecraft server that i played for like a week, it's gimmick was that you were supposed to cheat, you could play without any cheats, but you would just be handicapping yourself against people who sure were taking the advantage there wasn't any anticheat, but there were limits, like you couldn't have fastmine too high or the blocks wouldn't mine at all, presumably to save on server's resources per player cool concept, but not surprised that this server died soon after, if everyone is cheating - no one is
this makes me remember old cs 1.6 servers without vac or any anticheat it would always devolve into an empty server cause someone paid for a very good cheat and just killed everyone after spawning xD
I can answer your question at 24:33. Believe it or not companies try this all the time, the problem is the hack devs know this and have spyware in the hack itself that scans the computer's contacts, mailing list, bookmarks, passwords you name it. And if it looks like they're affiliated with the company, the hack will auto delete itself. And, even worse, even if they do get their hands on the cheat the hack devs will just change it in a few days anyway. It's a constant struggle, and one that can really only be beaten with a replay system. But the problem is worse for Tarkov because, it's a game that people WANT to be good at but don't care enough to grind for it. Or people that can't admit to themselves that they just arn't good enough to play it. Either way it leads to people hacking just so they can have fun in the game.
24:37 Bungie did this recently for Destiny 2, and ended up suing the developers for loads of money. The devs of the cheats tried suing back saying “altering our software is against our policy” but that’s not going anywhere lmao
They sell the game to players, they rent the cheats to the losers, they milk the players until numbers go down because the game is boring, the players who get addicted to the suffering gaslight themselves and others that the game is fun and that there are not that many cheaters, when even the hardcore pawns of the cult turn to cheating to stay at least competitive the game descends into pay to win aka free to play to keep the number of inadvertent cannon fodder to keep the income from the banned new losers and the addicted. Finally the game dies.
the worst is, that at some point most of the ppl will be so annoyed by cheaters, that they might install cheats to counter cheaters, then continue playing with cheats, and suddenly half of the population uses cheats... it reminds me of early 2000's free to play games
This is why I play the Singleplayer Tarkov mod. It's better, no cheaters, and mods! New equipment, guns, server editing to change values, play Tarkov how YOU want
A big reason it's so popular is because you can make alot of money through RMT and the game being so hard makes alot of players want to buy in game items or boosts to help them through tasks or to get better items. This is also a major reason why people decide to "rage hack" because of how hard/challenging and ruthless the game is.
Similar stuff would happen between hackers on Toontown Online back in the day. Activating hacker chat would change the color of your name from blue to black and would also reveal others (usually new accounts, sometimes paid accounts just vibin') that were currently using it in the area (like the wiggle hackers in Tarkov seem to use to sort of "truce" or to say "Oh, I'm hacking, too, btw lol."). Only Toontown didn't have anything close to an anti-cheat with it (as if it would do anything, like how much Battleeye is doing for Tarkov).
I've heard that in higher ranked CSGO games the cheaters are just a common occurrence. You can frequently get into a game with two (or more) cheaters battling against each other. Spinboting like there is no tomorrow
Pyro is right about tarkov. I have 900 hours on the game. I have hated every second of it. There are like 4 moments that where good but when those moments come, they are REALLY good.
I enjoy tarkov. That being said I can’t help but hate how rampant the cheater problem is. Also no the cheating isn’t monthly it’s by the minute 10$ will get you a whole day worth of minutes
I wonder how many people have started cheating because they've become so angry at all the cheaters... I just throw my controller across the room like a normal human and that only costs 130 bucks for another Xbox elite 2
They don't really want to do anything about the hackers because they would lose too much money if they banned them all. If they actually lost more money by NOT banning them, then they might actually consider it. Same thing is happening with Apex Legends and xim/strikepack/wallhack abusers.
2:26 thats where you are wrong pyro!!!, you can sit in an extract, in Reserve, Customs, Interchange, wait for the animal who wipe the lobby, kill him, help him with the loot, and bam, free money, free meta stuff, and you barely wait 20-30 mins, i spend that time reading Sun Tzu while waiting for my delivery
Tarkov is the most conflicted i've ever been buying anything. On one hand is literally the perfect game for me (im a masochist) but there are so many problems with the damn game
I used to play on Hack vs hack servers on CS:Source, good fun to see who can code, configure their hacks the best. I eventually moved on to server jacking and selling the tools to do so and valve gave me an account ban, not VAC, straight couldn't log in at all anymore. They let me have a new account as long as I promised not to create/use or sell any more server high jacking tools.
I love how the EFT g0at vid has made it to your channel! BSG might be in trouble now lmao. But on a serious note, glad it has reached a more major creator.
I mean the reason this game has so many cheaters is because it’s actually profitable for the cheaters. Let’s say with cheats someone can get 3 max level tarkov accounts will all tasks done per month. Each account can sell for more than the cheat costs per month. Or they do paid “sherpas”. If we want cheats to really stop, we need to talk about that, and stop people from selling.
ive always hated in games where game devs dont tell you the result of your report manual or through the game. it doesnt make sense, wouldnt you want to know if your reports did something, ive reported multiple people on lets say valorant for just some awful things they say and ive always been told we cant tell you the outcome, why? why cant you tell me "hey thank you for the report you were right thank you for making the community healthier".
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@@Dhampire1976 realn't
I always imagine that if there was a situation where two hackers/cheaters were duking it out with each other, either both their PCs would spontaneously combust or somewhere, out there, some random server block detonates and injures two janitors on break.
yeah Ive seen r6 vids where a team will find out the enemy team are sneakily hacking so they'll turn on their own hacks and it just devolves to bs
ive played my fair amount of games with cheaters on them and when you get a blatant one against a closet one and they both just start to fly around the map and shit its never not funny
@@somewhat_human Sounds like some anime fight is 'bout to go down.
Fun fact, there's lots of interesting anti-cheat systems that used to work back in the day before cheating got this bad (I'm going back to black ops and around the time I was a fucking toddler lmao), these anti-cheat systems would keep hackers from playing with other people BUT it would let them join lobbies of other hackers, which meant that they'd end up being locked in mortal combat with other cheaters.
@@allseeingirene Well, why don't they have those anymore? Do they not work 'cause the cheaters found some workaround?
And instead of doing anything about the cheating, the devs would rather sue people playing the singleplayer mod of the game
@QUAD849 Guess we shouldn't have police anywhere. I mean, not even the US can do anything about crime
@QUAD849 Well, its not very hard cause most game anticheats go through your files on your pc and dont allow you to play if it finds cheats for their specific game
@QUAD849 if its a few yeah I can understand but when each lobby have hacker teams and your game is based on a punishing mechanic well yeah people will criticize it cause when I get killed in idk COD I will just spawn again in tarkov I will lose hours and hours of playing to get to the same level, this is the kind of game that needs a very good anticheat or the game will just get ruined
@QUAD849 'Kay, allow me to correct myself then: Guess we shouldn't get stronger police forces , I mean, not even the US can do anything about all crime.
@QUAD849 You realise that still doesn't refute my point, yes? Or need I bring up more real life comparisons?
I can finally stop ghaslighting myself saying that every death is my fault. Every difficult game i play i go trough a cycle of thinking everyone is sus, learning the game, and eventually understanding why i lose and often improving. With tarkov the more i play and the more i learn about the game the less sense other peoples plays make sometimes, i finally have scientific proof that proves that tarkov is just absurdly full of hackers, my gamer self esteem is free to play other games without feeling like it counts as defeat.
This is like one of those folk tales about ghosts that cant ascend because regrets tie them to the world, but in this case the real world is tarkov and heaven is literally doing anything else
I´ve been banned from efts forums three times for bringing up how unimaginable easiy it is to get cheats and how many cheaters they are. I even gave them lists of names, cause two years ago player ids etc were straight up public in cheat providing pages. I got banned for that. Not the ones confirmed to have aquired 3rd party software with literal proof of it. I spent 100s of hours on this crap trying to get better and trying to follow all the big channels tutorials, learn tactics etc etc. It never mattered. I barely ever had a death that wasn´t suspicious, and two years ago i had a random squadmate that showed me some providers and their discords. It finally made sense, especially with the chinese marketplaces actually selling ingame items for real money
He's been freed, amen.
Man finally achieves opportunity to touch grass, the end will shock you
Man truly escaped from Tarkov.
@@easports2618 a man has reached enlightenment. This is what happened to his gaming career.
Can’t get over 3:28 where pyro gets absolutely flashbanged and it abruptly cuts to a normal frame
yeah its so fucking stupid
yoo it's the mocap man
As a legit Tarkov player for about 6-7 wipes, it was a common thing even among legit players at the start of a raid and just face random directions and wiggle in hopes cheaters seen this and just thought you were cheating and left you alone. It's a whole psychological war game.
Shout out to clara, can’t believe she managed to install hacks on all of those cheater’s computers
Lmao
insane refrence
fucking amazing reference
lol nice
wait for the "Clara vs. Santa Claus" Face Off next X-mas season! Will Santa deliver more presents than Clara install cheats!? Will Clara's friends get any presents because then been naughty? Tune in next December to find out!
Just for for those wondering how much these cheaters spend, the one shown in the video is about $8, a day
That's $240 a month. Imagine being such a loser
You can make that back so quickly though that’s why they do it, RMT is the motivation
@@Lucas-mk8cxmaking people insanely mad is the motivation tho. I just be fucking with people not even killing them. I just fuck up your legs untill you have no more splints/cms’s
Ruining people's day just for a quick buck is beyond degeneracy
Nope, they have tons of free hacks that are undetected for 1 month or more if you don't rage hack
Source: cheating forms
How tarkov keeps a following is insane
it takes determination and a little bit of insanity but it’s one of the best communities i’ve been apart of
Non-existent competition. It's that simple.
Because its a fucking great game plagued by cheaters
No outright competition
@Did ⸜⁄ its not that hard to make better content than pyro lol
Hacking is a HUUUUGE issue in gaming and it's so sad that it's gotten to this point. I used to Play World of Tanks and can confidently say AT LEAST 80% of the top "E-sports ready" clans use hacks. Mostly ESP, Map pingers, and 'bright skins' (which highlight the areas to shoot on tanks.) After getting kinda inducted into the hacking community I saw how crazy it was getting with games like CS:GO, battlefield, and CoD too.
THAT WAS 6 YEARS AGO. Nowadays I wouldn't be surprised if hacks were so good you could easily obfuscate them from your streams, anti-cheats, and even at e-sports events if you're sneaky enough. Worst of all is most hackers live by the code of not talking about hacks, not suffering the embarrassment of admitting to using them, and even outright denying they exist. TO the point they will start HUGE gaslighting arguments with accusers and do everything they can to "prove" there are no hacks in a game.
I mean…in world of tanks blitz(mobile version of world of tanks) that feature is automatically available
There's a new autoaim out that fluidly moves your mouse and you an adjust the speed of which it does it, to either be slow but efficient or "god tier" levels of accurate. It's so stupid. I don't remember the name of it, but it is a paid cheat engine with a couple other bells and whistles.
I mean there was that one esports game where right before this one team won the servers went down, and every time they kept winning there were connection issues until the opposite team won
sounds like the standard cod argument with how some random asshat will gaslight you for calling out a real cheater, claiming that "he's just good" or "maybe you're just bad"
@@4T3hM4kr0n or "Hacks don't even exist for this game, you'll get banned."
You now understand that hacking is a pandemic in video games. It's one of the reasons why I've quit playing FPS entirely. Until developers start adding traps that auto ban hackers (see the recent dota ban wave) it will not get better. Most developers stick their head in the sand and pretend hacking doesn't exist.
The problem is that it’s hard to pin down the source and to take care of them efficiently.
You can have a very twitchy anti-cheat that bans innocent players for something normal that happens in game; have it too loose, and hackers can get away with the most simplest of things. It’s like the bot crisis in tf2, they stopped one wave by finding the source, but now a new wave has come with a different source. It’s why devs pretend it doesn’t exist; to them, it’s way easier (and cheaper I guess) to act like they don’t know about it, then to actually do something about it. It sucks.
Definitely not only a tarkov issue and i 100% agree that its just a gaming issue overall and a recent one too, I just started playing hunt showdown again after 2 years and my very first game i ran into blatent cheaters, if im not playing league the chances of running into some guy hacking is just really high unless im playing valorant cause of its invasive anticheat
The devs are on it obviously.
The only way developers can permanently with cheat producers is if they somehow find their identity and hope they are in a western country so they can sue them into the dirt for damages. If they are Asian, African, Russian, South American there's nothing devs can do to stop them.
You gotta love the Hacker Wiggle. It makes them look like they're doing some sort of mating ritual.
Tarkov may have a big problem, however pyro dosent quite seem to mind big things
🤪🤪🤪 so silly
@@dwightd.eisenhower2031 thank you dwight D eisenhower
@@dwightd.eisenhower2031 I cannot believe the supreme allied commander Dwight D. Eisenhower has weighed in on Tarkov cheating. What do you plan to do after using emojis??
@@dwightd.eisenhower2031 yo, why you didnt allow Patton to enter Berlin? Instead you let soviets took it.
Fuck politicians, you could let him go.
Game devs: Oh we have a cheater problem?
Battleye: slowly crouching forward and wiggling
I can’t believe that pyro played Tarkov and enjoyed it
I make amazing content than joe lol
Are you a human? He literally said he did not lmao
@@va5780 yeah he did, he said it at 27:40
@@kingpig8732 bud, the vid is only 27:36. how do you bots fuck up this bad?
I can't believe a pyro commenter actually made a coherent comment for once
I played R6 a week or so ago and out of all of my matches with a friend we encountered one hacker, The hacker was on our team and at first I didn't think anything was wrong when the first round ended and the enemy team started to say hacker in the chat. Next round starts and after breaching, ash (the hacker) drops hatch with his 1911 and immediately kills (headshot) a guy and ducks into a door way then immediately pixel peaks the last dude (with a headshot) and after watching the Kill came it became apparent that he was cheating, not evenly trying to hide it. It's the last round and the cheater is getting dumpstered in the chat, and after getting shit on for a minute and being asked why he cheats, he says "R6 is full of liberals huh?". These people are so pathetic that the moment you call out their lack of skill, they get bold.
Tarkov is by far not the only shooter with this issue, it has plagued many other games often in waves depending on how harsh the developers try and fight back. Sad part is it will still have to come down to better anti-cheats if you don't want or can't have players check each other gameplay or a proper report-replay system (CS:GO's overwatch for example, although possibly still flawed depending on how you look at it). And to enact a "better" anti-cheat it will more often than not need to access near root levels of your PC for comparably good levels of detection (like Valorant does). Most anti-cheats out there aren't developed for that and do surfaces level scans for software and checking game code if it's re-written etc. Combine that with a lot of players not feeling comfortable with that amount of insight into your PC (let alone the risk of someone somehow being able to abuse that), cheating will always stay prevalent within FPS games, unless there's new developments into non-intrusive anti-cheats or we start accepting the trade off of less cheaters for an anti-cheat being able to see a lot more within your PC than you might want it to see. Till that point it will stay a cat and mouse game with anti-cheat and cheat developers.
It isn't just cheating, but also a combination of desync. Desync is definitely worse than the cheating because even when you do get in a legitimate fight and you running behind a wall and you randomly die it is a bad feeling. You do mental gymnastics to as to how you died, but in reality you weren't even moving on their screen. The amount of times my friends and I got messaged hey why tf are you not moving and playing like a noob is wild.
The fact so many people even want to cheat shows a fundamental problem with the game.
@@pumpyronaldrump_4417 When a game is easy to cheat in and there's little chance to get banned or caught cheaters will flood to it in masses, especially if the game is popular and or competitive. Tarkov probably always had this issue, it only was hard to know for sure as a player how many cheaters were actually around, up till now with what the original video shows.
@spoon cheaters are players too. And when you have this many, you do have to ask yourself why exactly would people do this. I'm convinced there's more to the story than "it's easy".
create a honeypot: a section of data inside the game client that would never be read during normal gameplay, but that be read by these exploits. Each of the accounts banned would have read from this "secret" area in the client, giving us extremely high confidence that every ban is well-deserved.
0:25 that has to be like the most UN-aggressive rage quit I've ever seen. We should all aspire to be like this guy. Being annoyed, sure, but not OVER-reacting
lmao the wiggle is the best, instead of trying some elaborate series of actions to see if someone is cheating, you just wave at them through a wall and if they wave back they give themselves away
Watching a raging wawa baby like pyro play tarkov would be an experience like no other
You’d think the Online Shooter with Permadeath would be more serious about cheating than other games but I guess not
Game idea: make hacks an ingame mechanic. Aimbot activates at a certain range, wallhacks are turned on after 5 kills and you shadowban a certain player when you get 25 kills
u ever played overwatch lmao
wait till this dude learns about killstreaks
@@retorikhal now thats just mean
Blackight retribution had an in-game "wallhack" mechanic that was so fun to use, too bad the game was delisted on pc. (still avaible on ps4 tho)
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I genuinely love the hoarding experience in Extraction shooting games and EFT was first step to love that genre. But it breaks my head playing where cheaters is destroying the game while developers don't do sh*t about it because their Anti-cheat system is probably free trial version. Rainbow 6 has same anti-cheat and it work more than whole BSG team against cheaters since first alpha stage.
same anti cheat doesnt mean the same performance for example they dont encrypt ram data
Fr it’s so easy bro I have done it multiple times and have yet to be banned
no way you just said the rainbow 6 anti cheat works better, the cheats you can do in that game is insane
They will always make more money by banning the cheaters and allowing them to buy another game key. Rather then just making a better anti cheat system.
You wouldn't pay eft a subscription for there to be No cheaters, but cheaters will pay a "subscription" to cheat in eft, aka buy new acct when banned
@@MoreMoon you can but at least you get banned within a day of rage-cheating, in Tarkov you can rage-cheat all you want and as long as you don't come across a streamer you'll be fine
I'm coming down off mushrooms and I appreciate your existence pyro. Thank you.
Had an instance just minutes ago. Playing my scav on streets, got shot at. Ran in a building and hid, doors, rooms. Guy just walks straight up to me like he knew exactly where I was hiding in a dark corner at night. Fortunately he said relax and gave me about 300k worth of stuff... but so sketchy from start to finish. How did he know to walk straight to me round corners etc....
Pyrocynical sure loves putting HUGE in his video titles
huge
15:40 the wiggle just reminded me of people saying “hail hydra” in the mcu movies, lol.
PYRO THANK YOU the more outreach this problem receives the faster something can be done
The sheer hubris of people who say they've "never been killed by a cheater" in a game that has no replay or spectator mode. Absolute brainlets.
hackers do not buy the game again, i just want to say that
i used to cheat on csgo way back when, and i know for a fact none of those tarkov hackers ever actually bought tarkov, they buy stolen accounts in bulk (if they really care to continue cheating) and do it that way. it makes the company no extra money. i did the same thing with csgo premium accounts, id get like 5 for 20 bucks.
Ah man I used to play minecraft bedwars and the amount of hacker vs hacker scenarios is insane.
tarkov's problem is not having pyro fat mod
The reason for KD being visible, is to easily recognize other cheaters... ironically
this reminds me, there was that one minecraft server that i played for like a week, it's gimmick was that you were supposed to cheat, you could play without any cheats, but you would just be handicapping yourself against people who sure were taking the advantage
there wasn't any anticheat, but there were limits, like you couldn't have fastmine too high or the blocks wouldn't mine at all, presumably to save on server's resources per player
cool concept, but not surprised that this server died soon after, if everyone is cheating - no one is
I guess 2b2t did it better
this makes me remember old cs 1.6 servers without vac or any anticheat it would always devolve into an empty server cause someone paid for a very good cheat and just killed everyone after spawning xD
I can answer your question at 24:33. Believe it or not companies try this all the time, the problem is the hack devs know this and have spyware in the hack itself that scans the computer's contacts, mailing list, bookmarks, passwords you name it. And if it looks like they're affiliated with the company, the hack will auto delete itself. And, even worse, even if they do get their hands on the cheat the hack devs will just change it in a few days anyway.
It's a constant struggle, and one that can really only be beaten with a replay system.
But the problem is worse for Tarkov because, it's a game that people WANT to be good at but don't care enough to grind for it. Or people that can't admit to themselves that they just arn't good enough to play it. Either way it leads to people hacking just so they can have fun in the game.
3:27 Pyro got Flashbanged
24:37 Bungie did this recently for Destiny 2, and ended up suing the developers for loads of money. The devs of the cheats tried suing back saying “altering our software is against our policy” but that’s not going anywhere lmao
My only theory on why the devs don't care, is that the devs made the cheats as well so they could make more money
Nah devs don't make the cheats they're just semi okay with it because cheaters who get banned typically come back and they gotta get a new account.
They sell the game to players, they rent the cheats to the losers, they milk the players until numbers go down because the game is boring, the players who get addicted to the suffering gaslight themselves and others that the game is fun and that there are not that many cheaters, when even the hardcore pawns of the cult turn to cheating to stay at least competitive the game descends into pay to win aka free to play to keep the number of inadvertent cannon fodder to keep the income from the banned new losers and the addicted. Finally the game dies.
It's a strange balance because this seriously hurts the playerbase in the long run.
@@cc3 ik but it's more of a shitty cash-grab at that point
It's funny watching Pyro go from: "imagine just assuming everyone is a hacker"(paraphrasing)
to: "HOW MANY HACKERS ARE THERE!"
Its so shocking that pyro finally admitted to what he did on August 27th on 2022
What did he do that day?
@@JD-mn5ic nothing , he did nothing
@@lukeepic thanks my mind is at peace
@@lukeepic now what was he doing on September the 11th of 2001?
@@JD-mn5ic He didn't do anything then, I believe you're talking about Jschlatt
Watching this kinda just reminds me of Parasite, how all the aliens can sense eachothers presence when they get close.
The aliens are hacking
Holy shit this is finally getting recognition outside of the usual. Perhaps bsg starts actually trying now
Pyro getting a flashbang at 3:28
26:35 "I play loads of six siege and I have never met a hacker, ever"
Pyro, mate that's cap... Thats cap right there.
The reason he said he had a backup video is because the devs actively take down very critical videos aswell as videos that includes cheater gameplay.
Tarkov looks like a form of real torture now. No idea it was this bad fellas
We live for it. TBH even if I die to a cheater, I can make the money back ingame to buy the kit I lost. Ive been Stolkholm'd for 2100 hours in game
the worst is, that at some point most of the ppl will be so annoyed by cheaters, that they might install cheats to counter cheaters, then continue playing with cheats, and suddenly half of the population uses cheats... it reminds me of early 2000's free to play games
Only game I ever felt forced to cheat on was gtaonline.
Too much griefing and cheating I just got my own to put myself in godmode to farm peacefully
Anyone remember combat arms LUL
@@bobmabob OPK OPK OPK!!!!
@@Zakhev342 hahaha. Thx for the nostalgia man.
I can’t believe pyro shot an artist for not drawing the fat furry art he requested.
3:27 that flashbang 💀
I wouldve never guessed that pyro even KNOWS about tarkov let alone has played it.
Tarkov is a game
The end
Same
This is why I play the Singleplayer Tarkov mod. It's better, no cheaters, and mods! New equipment, guns, server editing to change values, play Tarkov how YOU want
Didn't BSG say they were going to ban people for using it? Hopefully not.
Of course at 8:30 Pyro immediately jumps to saying "Giga-Fart" Hack Tech when on the spot thinking up a made-up name for a hack client
You KNOW it's bad if the Pyro mod enthusiast makes a mod on it
A big reason it's so popular is because you can make alot of money through RMT and the game being so hard makes alot of players want to buy in game items or boosts to help them through tasks or to get better items. This is also a major reason why people decide to "rage hack" because of how hard/challenging and ruthless the game is.
Similar stuff would happen between hackers on Toontown Online back in the day. Activating hacker chat would change the color of your name from blue to black and would also reveal others (usually new accounts, sometimes paid accounts just vibin') that were currently using it in the area (like the wiggle hackers in Tarkov seem to use to sort of "truce" or to say "Oh, I'm hacking, too, btw lol."). Only Toontown didn't have anything close to an anti-cheat with it (as if it would do anything, like how much Battleeye is doing for Tarkov).
I've heard that in higher ranked CSGO games the cheaters are just a common occurrence. You can frequently get into a game with two (or more) cheaters battling against each other. Spinboting like there is no tomorrow
Tarkov is just so realistic your character will randomly have a heart attack and die
I can't believe Pyro died and now his twin brother is running his account.
9:38 "Wait, women play video games" loool bro I literally looked at your cam and thought ermmm "your one of them" 🤣🤣🤣
Pyro is right about tarkov. I have 900 hours on the game. I have hated every second of it. There are like 4 moments that where good but when those moments come, they are REALLY good.
I can't be the only one who wiggles after everyfight to try and convince possible hackers
Problem is you gotta look right at them.
love when pyro uploads another persons video with little to no additions at all
I cant believe pyro is proud fully admitting that he is getting worse
“Tarkov’d” and “Noita’d” have the same energy
I enjoy tarkov. That being said I can’t help but hate how rampant the cheater problem is. Also no the cheating isn’t monthly it’s by the minute 10$ will get you a whole day worth of minutes
26:38 Team fortress 2 players sitting in a corner looking at you:
Holy shit pyro got flashbanged so hard at 3:27
Pyro editors be like "lets render this video at a tenth of the volume it should be."
I wonder how many people have started cheating because they've become so angry at all the cheaters... I just throw my controller across the room like a normal human and that only costs 130 bucks for another Xbox elite 2
3:25 the flashbang
They don't really want to do anything about the hackers because they would lose too much money if they banned them all. If they actually lost more money by NOT banning them, then they might actually consider it.
Same thing is happening with Apex Legends and xim/strikepack/wallhack abusers.
2:26 thats where you are wrong pyro!!!, you can sit in an extract, in Reserve, Customs, Interchange, wait for the animal who wipe the lobby, kill him, help him with the loot, and bam, free money, free meta stuff, and you barely wait 20-30 mins, i spend that time reading Sun Tzu while waiting for my delivery
Tarkov is the most conflicted i've ever been buying anything. On one hand is literally the perfect game for me (im a masochist) but there are so many problems with the damn game
3:27 literally flashbanged, I shall be waiting for the Pryo flashbanged gif memes
I don't know how Nikita made the worst game on the planet the most addicting.
I used to play on Hack vs hack servers on CS:Source, good fun to see who can code, configure their hacks the best. I eventually moved on to server jacking and selling the tools to do so and valve gave me an account ban, not VAC, straight couldn't log in at all anymore. They let me have a new account as long as I promised not to create/use or sell any more server high jacking tools.
3:26 Flashbang.
I can’t believe that Pyro got Tarkoved. This is so sad.
tf2; "am i a joke to you?"
I can't belive Pyro would hack RUclips just to get almost 800k subscribers, truly disgusting.
Honestly I feel we gotta stop calling them hackers. They're just script kiddies who pay a subscription to showcase how skill-less they are lmfao
I can't believe pyro would cheat in a video game.
12:22 Bullets are super sonic. They travel faster than sound. If you get taken out immediately you’re not gonna hear it.
I love how the EFT g0at vid has made it to your channel! BSG might be in trouble now lmao. But on a serious note, glad it has reached a more major creator.
I mean the reason this game has so many cheaters is because it’s actually profitable for the cheaters. Let’s say with cheats someone can get 3 max level tarkov accounts will all tasks done per month. Each account can sell for more than the cheat costs per month. Or they do paid “sherpas”. If we want cheats to really stop, we need to talk about that, and stop people from selling.
What’s new?
And the Anti cheat had a new update.
Who else loves Pyro reacting to other's videos, my fav content!
Pyro is so original! I love him!
Brave of Pyro to admit he has an inflation furry porn addiction
he drops that line like every other video to get kids like you to comment about it, giving him interactions
@@kalui96 It's tradition.
Pyro getting flashbanged at 3:27 is great
whenever the dude that made the video tries to talk to other cheaters he sounds like an undercover cop lmao.
You know when situation is bad when cheaters have its OWN LANGUAGE to greet or stay away from eachother
cant wait for the next main channel video talking about cheaters in le video game
glad to see people finally escaping from tarkov
"Trial for his hacks expired" lmao i am so glad i never got into EFT
ive always hated in games where game devs dont tell you the result of your report manual or through the game. it doesnt make sense, wouldnt you want to know if your reports did something, ive reported multiple people on lets say valorant for just some awful things they say and ive always been told we cant tell you the outcome, why? why cant you tell me "hey thank you for the report you were right thank you for making the community healthier".
the pyro got flashbanged on 3:25 is so funny
There's no hackers in Tarkov, they just have better gaming chairs.
3:26 Holy flashbang
This video took "You got stick bugged" to another level