Kenyan Swahili VS Tanzania Swahili what's the difference /Tanzanian's understand kenya swahili ?
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Hey guys so todays video is going to be a reaction video we're going to be reacting and giving our own opinions on a Kenyan RUclipsr's video talking about the differences in kiswahili between Kenya and Tanzania • DO KENYANS REALLY UNDE...
Leo tutaongelea tafauti za kiswahili cha kenya pamoja na kiswahili cha tanzania.
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I'm dying over here 😂😂😂, i didn't know that I needed this. But all i want to say is that there is no shame in knowing how to speak the so called "Ancient" Kiswahili/Swahili properly. Whether you are from Tanzania or Kenya. We have different accents due to various reasons...we all learnt that in school. Great video 👍🏼
😂😂😂 yes definitely and I feel like speaking the same language connects our countries
@@thatgirl_haju2509 indeed
There is no shame, it's evolution, language evolves no? English is not the same everywhere in the world, that's why the Rwandese, Congo, Comoros, Uganda, Kenya don't speak the same Swahili. So many factors affect language. Mainland Tz and Coast Tz Swahili is not the same.
And please what is Swahili, mnakosea mkisemasema Swahili. It is Kiswahili and not Swahili, Swahili is based on a white man's pronunciation kwa kuwa hangeweza sema kiswahili. But it's kiswahili and not Swahili ama kuna wazungu hapa? Wacheni mashauzi hapa. Eti Swahili what the hell is Swahili. We sound like those Nairobian film makers who put everything in English to please the white sponsors no wonder most kenyans don't watch Kenyan movies to be honest. We all are trying to suit the white man's lingo.
@@mbarakamajimbo we ndo unaufala Swahili is accepted check your kamusi
As Kenyans, we don't speak fluent Swahili. Our Swahili has been influenced by English and tribal languages. The slang is out of this world, and it's generational. You should hear what kids and teenagers are speaking right now. I am 30 years but sometimes I don't understand a thing.there is even a slang dictionary in Kenya. It's that crazy. But we are proud of Tanzanians for keeping the fluent Swahili intact.
Wow there is even a slang dictionary I didn't know that hope at some point they can also go back to speaking fluent Swahili
Sheng is not Kiswahili. It is like saying Pidgin is English. The similarity between proper TZ and Kenyan Kiswahili is 95%.
No there is no tribal languages it only english or swahili
Shukran
Thank you for speaking the truth
Nafikiria Inategemea Unatokea Upande Gani Kutoka Kenya Watu Kutokea Mombasa Tunaelewa Kiswahili Cha Tanzania 🇹🇿 Vizuri Sana Sisi Tuko Maeneo Ya Pwani kwahivyo hakuna changamoto zozote greeting from Switzerland 🇨🇭
Mwandiko wako unasomeka kwa accent ya bongo kabisa!! 😊
Usingesema nisingejua you are Kenyan!!
17:45 😂😂😂 i literally just used that tense "Nge" to reply in the previous comment just to hear her talk about this 😂
Tanzania kenya uganda in that order, no argument, hakuna haja ya debate
In short Tanzanians speak better swahili... Its something to be proud about. English is not our language (Tanzanians or kenyans)and we should communicate in our own language..
Definitely I'm very proud that I can speak Swahili especially out here far from home
Tanzania's kiswahili is grammatically poor,,sweet to the ear but disorderly
Visit Mombasa and listen to their swahili you will think you are in Tanzania
@@africanresource920 unaongelea Watanzania idadi ya watu milioni 60 au ni hao wachache uliowasikia.
Kuongezea pia, General Kenyan English accent is not top notch by the way. Does not sound good.
@@kijanahodari2080 As a Zanzibari, it is similar yet very very different...
Kenyans could speak good Swahili if they wanted to, but they choose not to. There is a general attitude among young Kenyans that good Swahili is for old fashioned people. It also explains why you rarely see a youthful person buying a Swahili daily newspaper like Taifa Leo. Kenyans deliberately water down and cannibalize the language, which is very unfortunate. Personally, even though I'm a Sheng speaker, I prefer we spoke the standard language and do so whenever an opportunity arises
Agreed, true
I'm Kenyan. It's my first time here and I thought you guys were Kenyan. Your accent is 100% Kenyan.
Nyie si mnahisigi sisi wote hatujui English. Freshhyyy😂
@@austinkennedy9870 😂
there is a lot to comment on this video. i think the way to view this is we (Kenyans) view Tanzanian swahili the way Americans view British English.
😂😂😂 yes that makes sense
Yet British English is original 😁
Being an American, I know what she is talking about.
Kenyans on the coast speak Sanifu Swahili “Deep Swahili”. So do Tanzanians.
In Nairobi they speak Sheng (it is what it is).
And the further away from the coast you get the less the “Deep Swahili” is understood.
Being a student if Swahili, I have run into these barriers often.
Love the language by the way.
and the closer you shall get to Congo Kinshasha, the more confusing the Swahili shall be: In Congo, they have four different dialects of complicated Swahili
Tanzanian don't speak pure kiswahili, that's a lie
I have done development work where kiswahili has been extensively used.Changamoto refers to challenges while shida refers to problems
You're right 👍 and I'm Kenyan.
Mkwanja is one of TZ slang words for money, it is mostly used in squater and people of that Race. The other slang synonyms for money is Mshiko, fuba, mpunga/mchele e.t.c
Am Arabic speaker although I don’t speak Swahili but if someone speaks Swahili slowly I can understand many words due to similarities between the two languages but I noticed that the TZ one is more clear I suppose or maybe because it is ancient as Kenyan girl said 😂 or (fasaha) which is an Arabic word.
Great content though am subscribing to your channel I might improve my Swahili knowledge ❤
Swahili has alot of Arabic words and bantu
As a Zanzibari who once engaged with both Tanzanians and Kenyans I'd assure you the standard swahili is only spoken in ZANZIBAR. The rest are just used to conveying their thoughts without regarding sentence structures, "TAHAJIA" and all the basic swahili grammar.
UR WRONG
@@kachemamsangi8089 prove it.
Most of people from zanzibar are narrow minded,so broh that is not your problem
Zanzibar is an Island in Tanzania guess you meant Tz
@@Sean1877 I meant Zanzibar👍
I find it weird that the creators are speaking English in a Swahili 'curated' video. just speak Swahili and we'll see the differences in the speaking itself
Lol ok will do that next time
Not everyone that watches this vids are Swahili natives and by that your critics doesn't make sense! 🙄
Content is for the world and not just Swahili speakers, besides unataka waget aje Doo🤭😉
In Mombasa Swahili people generally think that Tanzanians apart from tanga and dar area aren't good Swahili speakers...Mombasa. Swahili is hands down the best in the world
We Zanzibaris are just silent watching and listening you both fighting over the language none of you speak it properly 😂
Hahaha this was so interesting to watch😂😂... Proud Tanzanian🇹🇿
English and Swahili are compulsory subjects in Kenyan education system in both primary and high schools.
Thats a good thing you get to learn both
Nice video😍❤️ it’s a flex speaking your language guys 🇹🇿🇹🇿❤️❤️
Yess definitely Swahili is growing so much this days ❤🔥
Honestly Tanzanian songs are nice but some words are challenging and we need to go back to kamusi so that we can understand,but some are like slang because there are not in kamusi
You people are cute. Linguistics, love from 🇰🇪.
Kiswahili in Kenya is heavily influenced by ethnic inclinations, in Kenya it's the youth who deliberately struggle to use their slang and refuse to use proper language.
In Tanzania, they use standard Swahili but the wanyika...bantu population inland have have heavy ethnic pronunciation.
All along the coastal area in Kenya and Tanzania use Swahili as their common language.
You are discussing Swahili as commonly used by youth in urban and rural l areas....in both countries.
But remember, Kenyan youth deliberately avoid or refuse to use proper Swahili so as to be viewed as urbanites or refined.
Some words , like Hela actually refers to five cents, therefore Generally referring to money...
Most bantu communities in Kenya and Tanzania have that problem of pronouncing R or L....
Ningefurahia Sana kama mngejadiliana kwa lugha ya kiswahili...
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Asante sana kwa kutuelimisha na sisi sote tulijadiliana kwa kizungu kwasababu video tuliokua tuna tizama pia ni English
If uou say bantu communities strugle to pronounce swahil words it's true... In Uganda we totally failed to speak swahil bse of that. The none bantu areas can speak it, like in Northern Uganda but southern parts nara we can't try, infact it's very funny speaking swahil here, eventhough some schools teach it but students don't practice it in real life, it's also optional in schools you can drop it. We use Our local languages and English
Visit Mombasa and see a type of Swahili
You mean in Bara/Kenya
Hata wanyika huko Tanzania
We as swahili people we don't see the difference between each other coz first we came from same tribe and we are related in many ways and I think most of people from coast of 🇰🇪🇹🇿 have same way of speaking swahili
Yes most speak the same
Precisely! The standard Kiswahili in Kenya and TZ is quite similar.
Surely there is no way “Swahili” people are from the same tribe, that’s like all south africans are the same because they speak English are all from the same tribe
They don't. Zanzibar's version is accepted in literature as the 'standard' may be because it is the easiest, and this 'accepting' probably had nothing to do with authentic speakers but foreigners who would prefer to learn an easy version. Even mainland Tanzania doesn't speak it. I find Mombasa's more sweet, natural especially the accent. As you head towards Lamu it gets tougher.
The speaking differs becoz of some vocabularies. Example kulala ni kiswahili fasaha lakini watu WA msa husema(anlala ), lamu(ulele) tanga(kalala/Shirazi ppl from tanga husema(kanaya/ya) Kuna utofauti kulingana na mahali mtu anapotoka baadhi ya maneno waweza kuyaelewa lakini baadhi huwezi kwa sababu ni kile kiswahili cha kiundani asokuwa mtu WA hapo hawezi kuelewa mf twaa means take kwa kiswahili fasaha lakini kivumba ni (rwaa) nenda ni fasaha lakini kimtangata ni (awa) waona tofauti yajaa hapo sasa
Am from Kenya and grasp of the Swahili language is so good I guess
It about your educational background
A person from Kenya bara will speak something like this:
"Kiswahili ya Kenya, enyewe, kuna venye iko tofauti na ile ya Bongo kusema tu ile ukweli yani... Na si ju ati Kenya tunapenda kuongea Kizungu mingi- zi! Ile vita tuko nayo na Swa' ni ile kitu wanaita Sheng."
Now, the above statement is in the typical spoken Swahili you'll encounter in mainland Kenya. Make your way to the Kenyan coast and it gets waaay better, almost a Zanzibari accent, with the vocabulary to boot.
U got new sub here from Kenya nice content
Thank you so much 😊 more videos to come
Tz Swahili is like from Jesus's days type of English.. Thy Thou Thee knowest... very Shakespeare like!! Kenyan swahili is simple...like easy Chinese.Much love from 🇰🇪
Jesus is far from English language he doesn't know any english word
@@kijanahodari2080 You're calling your Savior illiterate 😆 Utakwama kwenye gate wewe...
You are right, if you listen to gospel songs made in Tanzania it sounds very 'Shakespearen' in terms that gospel singers in Tanzania use the formal standard Kiswahili words you find in dictionary while secular songs by the artist, the likes of Diamond Platnumzs' they use other form of Swahili which I may say it is like doing swahili poetry were the secular artists play around with syllables to fit in their lyrics plus flow of their unique pronunciation and thus is why Kenyans at times are left out. I believe most Kenyans can follow and understand gospel music from Tanzanian singers or choirs with ease.
@@kijanahodari2080 .Christians pray in any language, otherwise all bibles would be in the hebrew language.You are very wrong to claim that Jesus doesn't know any English.
Nyie mnaingea kiswahili au mnaogeaga kikalinjin
I understand TZ songs more than kenyan yet I'm Kenyan. I am not perfect in swahili but I understand everything a Tanzanian says, talking is where I draw a line. Kenyan songs are in sheng and sheng in Nairobi is quite different from sheng in another town. Different shengs different places, yaani ni lahaja na kila mtaa una lahaja zake.
Hehehe wow really😅........true tho kila mtu ana lahaja zake
Buda sasa lahaja ndio what?
@@Njeri_123 dialect
hicho kiswahili cha wapi?
Even sheng in Nairobi is different from estate to estate.
Mkwanja we do use in Tanzania but it's a very informal language.
We also do say changamoto but depend on a sentence you say and it's often use on formal matters and on papers.
For me it's depend to which language I want to speak ,if it's swahili then I will think in Swahili,if it's English,I will think in English.
Kenyans we don't speak Swahili ,we speak SHENG that no East Africans can understand expect us
Which is a Swahili slung
That's not right , Sheng is for Nairobi people only not the entire Kenya
Ladies you studied English right from Primary to Secondary that's why you are able to speak good English , and initially Kenyan here mistake you to be Kenyans
Real and authentic. Thank you for sharing.
In the Kenyan education system, English and Kiswahili are compulsory from primary school to high school. But all other subjects like sciences are taught in English. Any Kenyan who went through the public education understands what proper Kiswahili is. The fluency varies though and what they choose to speak on the streets is up to them based on what they prefer whether it is English, Kiswahili, Sheng, mother tongue etc. Please, Sheng is not Kiswahili, so it should not even be used as a benchmark of proper Kiswahili and a way to judge Kenyans. Not all Kenyans speak Sheng and many do not even understand it contra to what is said out here. Also Sheng varies and changes based on location.
I dint even know what sheng was before making this video 😅😅
True, sheng ni msimu.
Sheng ni yetu🤣🤣
Kenyans are the best in Swahili because we pronounce the words well and for Tanzanian aren't the best , for example the word ( Raha) in Kenya we pronounce it well Raha .... And in Tanzania they pronounce laha so Kenya is the best in Swahili language
Personally, I hate sheng and can't think of knowing it
hehehehe much love from Kenya. Worked in Dar back in 2010. Anytime i opened my mouth to speak they would be like "lahaja yako ni ya kikenya". Eventually i used to tell them "Bora tuwasiliane"
😂😂😂 I think I would say that 2
I think they didnt mean it in a bad way, i personally get excited hearing someone with a kenyan/nairobian accent, because as much as our two countries are geographically close still most tanzanians dont interact with kenyans in a regular basis
Wakenya wengi wanaongea Kiswahili kibovu. Ni kwamba hawakijui vizuri, bado wanajifunza. Ukitaka kujifunza lugha hiyo vizuri, nenda Tanzania
But How do you compare TanZania 🇹🇿 Swahili with Swahili in Kenya 🇰🇪 while you know for fact that Swahili was born in Tanzania. How do you compare a Mother (TZ) with a child (KE) intern of Swahili language.
Yes we do understand the songs as Kenyans. Kenyans know Kiswahili sanifu but we prefer the simplest words to quickly pass the message!!! However this is the part Tz people don’t like, Kiswahili was born in Kenya.
I feel like when it comes down to languages, there's no such thing as better because everyone will use the Standard Language according to their regions. Of course for Swahili speakers we also have circles like those who speak it as a first language (Waswahili) are the inner circle or originals if you like then those of us who have it as a second language (majority) depending on your indigenous tribes ,am Luhya( Western Kenya) for instance, are the second circle then we have the expanding circle i.e. Congo and South Africa and I think recently Rwanda too. Different factors will always affect language so there's absolutely no way anyone will ever be fluent, like region, accent, language growth etc. So no there's no such thing as ancient language, it's their way of talk and how they understand each other and disregarding that is shear ignorance. Anyway, the difference between Kenyan and Tanzanian English is our wording and accent . Kenyans choose the shortest way possible to say a word even if it means mixing it up while Tanzanian is more straightforward but both have different pidgins created from them according to language play in their regions, there's no shame in wanting to speak a certain way.
okay...do you study languages?
We as swahili people we don't see the difference of each other coz we are related in many ways ,but maybe other tribes of Tanzanian/kenya they may see the difference,
Yes that's is true Swahili unites us
Another thing, Tanzanians will easily read a newpaper in Swahili while Kenyans struggle to read Swahili even if it's their first language. Almost no one reads a Swahili newspaper.
I also struggle reading Swahili but I can write it just fine 😂😂😂
Tanzania Swahili has a lot of Bantu words unlike the Mombasa, lamu Swahili which has a lot of Arabic words
Swahili is Swahili in both tanzania and kenya the only difference is the accents and slang
@@thatgirl_haju2509 Swahili is not just Swahili...it differs with richness of words too
I have never thought of this but its true
I prefer swahili versions with more bantu words, sounds better and more natural
Mkwanja ni slang
Shida = Problem
Changamoto = Challenge
They're two different words.
Mkwanja is a common Kiswahili slang in Tz.
Oww yes you are right 😅
Ni mombasa kenya too
In proper Kiswahili Kenyans also say kuna shida. Iko shida is casual street lingo.
Another slang word is "mpunga".
I have a tanzanian boyfriend it's quite a challenge when we r trying to speak Swahili coz mine is so funny 🤣 buh he does understand me kinda...buh most of da time it's English but all in all I do understand Swahili 🤣😂🤣 ata kama ni kibaya ....much luv from qatar 🇶🇦🇰🇪🥰
Hehe thats nice
Asalam alykm. Wabongo tunatumia neno mkwanja mbona sana tuu. Mi nimeondoka bongo miaka zaidi y 20 sasa n najua mkwanja inatumika pia km hela.😄😄😄😄😄
Lol I think it's stopped now lakini
Mkwanja in Tanzania we use it as local word most wahuni(gangs) use it so it's not legit tho!
Mkwanja, Mtonjo, Kibunda, Ankara, Mapene, Mshiko, Jala
Mtonyo, Mbumba, Mavumba, Maokoto, Umatemate
Mkwanja is used in TZ as slang but mostly by males.
Proper: Pesa, hela, fedha, sarafu.
Slangs: mkwanja, mtonyo, mpunga and so on…
Oww ok thats good information thank you so much 😊
New word for me SARAFU 🤣🤣🤣😂 iyo nayo Iko mpya kwangu it's a new word for me ....tanzanian have beautiful n difficult Swahili ever in east Africa (ijapokua nawapenda sana sana Sina changamoto na nyinyi )😂😂🤣🤣🥰🇰🇪🇶🇦❤️
@@magzakky2781 mimi n mkenya na najua sarafu tangu zamani
You ladies are soooo Beautiful 💯% 👈...Funny Review of the subtle differences of two neighboring countries sharing the same language. Thanks for sharing, Now I want to learn Kenswali or Tanzenglish...lol Have a blessed day. Shalom✌🙏
Thanks for sharing❣️
Nyimbo za kiswahili hasa bongo flava. Wanaimba kwa mafumbo na ni hasa ni matusi. Ili watoto wasijue. Lakini matokea watoto wanakuja kua pia. Sasa inabidi hujue mthamiati vizuri.
Yap we need that kind of video wacha tuchambue mbichi na mbovuu know what I mean let's go princess 😅😅
😂😂😂 kabisa
Kiswahili is not a stable language (grows everyday) with many dialects (lahaja). The three main dialects being "Kiunguja"(Zanzibar & most parts of mainland TZ), "Kimvita"(Mombasa & south coast Kenya) and "Kiamu"(Lamu Archipelago), and is inappropriate to point that a certain dialect is correct than the other.
Kiswahili we learn in schools here in Kenya is "lahaja ya kiunguja" (which was selected by the British colonial regime to standardize Kiswahili in East Africa). It is very different to other dialects spoken by Kenyan coast people in terms of words pronounciation and connotations, e.g. "Lahaja ya Kimvita" spoken by people from Mombasa; they tend to use "t" instead of "ch", for example, they say "tumbi instead of "chumvi", "tungu" instead of "chungu" etc.
Lahaja ya Kiamu is the most difficult to understand of them all even people from Mombasa and other south coast places say they don't sometimes understand what their fellows are saying.
I don't think using a single dialect as reference to test eloquence in a language is proper. I mean, you can not use British English to test an American's knowledge of the language because they have their own dialect.
And by the way, they could have used "lahaja ya Kingozi" or just "kingozi"(the origin of Kiswahili) to standardize Kiswahili if they had to.
Every language has room to grow we discover that everyday meaning there is a need for new words
@@thatgirl_haju2509 That's true
How true. Grew up on Mombasa island and will confirm that the Waswahili there use;
"dh" in place of "nj".
You will hear "ndhoo huku" for "njoo huku"
"Th" for "ch". Less often though, the sound "t" at times take the "th" sound.
WAMVITA: "Anshinda hapa mthana kuthwa!"
Note instead of "ame", you will hear "an'".
WAUNGUJA: "Ameshinda hapa mchana kutwa!"
But the Mvita dialect is slowly dying, Kiunguja is the standard version.
Am Ugandan. I have worked in Dar es Salaam and Nairobi. Honestly, Tanzanians speak swihili faster and with more rare words. Most times, I have to ask them to slow and simplify for me. As a UGANDAN, I speak English most but understand Swihili. Tanzanians can not tell their are first while speaking Swihili, it is an out who can tell you.
I love East Africa as a whole. Tanzanians are Unique in their way.
Ugandans are more welcoming.
Kenyans are workaholic.
You are wrong...when I hear Tanzania accent they speak too slow unlike we as Kenyans we speak faster
You should move to Mombasa or Lamu and hear how fast swahili is actually spoken
In Kenya we are not workaholics...... The rest of you are just lazy
People who speak Swahili as their first language are found along the East African coast, stretching from southern Somalia to the border between Tanzania and Mozambique and the offshore islands of Lamu, Zanzibar, Pemba, the Comoros, and the northwestern part of Madagascar.
Pure swahili sanifu is spoken in zanzibar Town only in East Africa...other part in East africa speak swahili depending on the region they where they are from and their understanding and swahili was influenced by Arabic, Portuguese and some of the bantu languages
Pesa in Tanzania is Mkwanja, mpunga, noti, mapeni, ...
Of course we understand. She's not a typical Kenyan to be honest. She probably speaks English all the time. But we mostly understand
From Kenya. I have enjoyed this video.
Thank you for watching I'm glad you enjoyed
Kenyan: Kama singe-come unge-do?
Tanzanian: Nisingelikuja ungefanya nini kakangu?
That's sheng' vs kiswahili
In Tanzania: Kama nisingekuja ungefanya nini?
Mwambieni L & R ipo Kenya zaidi haswa kwa Wakikuyu (L&R) na kwa Wakelenjin (V&F)! Amsikilize James Mwangi wa Equity Bank!
Mkwanja is a "street" language meaning money in Tanzania. In Kenya alone Kiswahili from the coast and the rest of the country differs, same situation in Tz.
Its very true that R and L seems to have the same meaning....sometimes it gets very boring watching their movies.
Another aspect of Tanzanian Kiswahili is the invention , and creation of new words / terminologies by the Kiswahili scholars mainly with the intention of translating or finding an equivalent English words in to Kiswahili. Hence you will in many cases hear Tanzanians use some words that are traditionally not familiar in Kiswahili.
Zeisev Ismanov Swahili language was not brought from anywhere , it was all along a local Bantu language of the east African coast but just like many major languages all over the world , it has borrowed some words , from Arabic , Persian, Portuguese , Indian languages through early Indian ocean trading
Swahili was born in Tanzania got sick in Kenya & buried in Uganda.
Heheheh omg yess
Eastern coast of east africa not tanzania to be specific. During those early years there was no country. Infact it was known as east africa before it was devided by europeans.
The original statement is "Kiswahili was born in Tanzania, died in Kenya, Buried in Uganda. "
This girl is even struggling with English 😅😅😅 and she saying she is fluent in English 😭
Mie Mkenya na ninao marafiki kutoka Bongo. Kiswahili chetu sio tafauti jinsi mwaisema japo kuna changamoto za athari za lugha ya kwanza.
Kimantiki, nawezasema tumewazidi ila wao wamebobea kiufasaha. Sote tuko kimoja
mwaisema? umepuyanga
Yes. As a Tanzanian, I have heard "mkwanja" used waaaay to often specifically when I was younger(I'm now in my early 20s)
Duuh I haven't 🤣
I would suggest you do a video on Kenyan Swahili in the coastal areas of Lamu ,Mombasa, Malindi ,Kwale and Kilifi and compare it with TZ swahili because in this video, you have a one sided view that will make viewers make wrong conclusions. That way, you'll get a different perspective and move away from generalizing that Kenyans don't know how to speak swahili.
To me, i believe the lady schooled in a private school where the main mode of communication is English but for public schools , Swahili is taught from Kindergarten to High School in a deeper way.
Also take your time and watch Kenyan TV news at 7 pm and also radio stations because thats where you'll know Kenyans also speak equally good swahili.
Countries where Kiswahili is spoken include Tanzania , Kenya , Uganda , DR Congo, Rwanda , Burundi , Somalia , South Sudan, Zambia , Mozambique , Malawi , Comoros , Madagascar , Seychelles and Oman.
Hey guys watching from 254 ,proper Swahili can also be referred as kiswahili sanifu that's the correct word
Yes it is
Shida and changamoto don't mean the same changamoto refers to challenge ....and shida refers to a problem
Zanzibaris have always criticised the Kiswahili that is spoken in mainland Tanzania (Tanganyika) and in fact as you travel inland (Mikoani) in Tanzania the dialects keeps changing just like in Kenya , even though Tanzanian government policy has ensured that Kiswahili is the main language of instruction in all levels of education.
In kenya we do kiswahili as a subject from class 1 to 8...in form 1 we also have kiswahili to form 4 fasihi etc..the problem is the rest of the subjects are in english.but broken swahili,sheng and english carry most of our day to day conversations..We do understand tz songs huyo pekee ndio ako na shida.
I think the school system is the same coz that's how I studied as well
Class one kiswahili Gani ulikuwa unajua,see you ukiwa ushangu ,get seroius nilisoma kiswahili mpaka 4th form but still don't speak fluent the thing is fluent
@@margaretkisau2416 kusoma sio kujua
Kenyans too don’t often use ‘matata’, they rather say, poa (I am cool). And jambo is often ‘sasa or mambo.’ Additionally, Kenya Swahili depends on regions and an individual. The hakuna matata phrase became famous through a Kenyan coastal group Them Mushrooms song Jambo Bwana. The ‘r’ problem has to do with the influence of mother tongue. Some Kenyans too have such problem, also for English.
The r & l 'problem' is bigger in Tanzania than Kenya.
@@michael_saleh I agree
Its true.. we don't be getting the words in your music.. we just be vibing
😂😂😂😂 the vibe is what matters
Congrats girls. This was very exciting and pleasant to watch!
Both Kenya coast and Tanzania coast speak more or less the same Kiswahili. Also both countries as travel inland/; upcountry or Mikoani as Tanzanians call it , the Kiswahili dialect and pronunciations / accent keep changing among various tribes
Yes we used the name Mkwanja long time as slang TZ
HATA HUYU MAMA SIO MZURI SANA KWA KISWAHILI.PIA NAYE ANASTRUGLLE KUELEZEA TOFAUTI YA KISWAHILI CHA TZ NA KILE CHA KE.
I think the lady from Kenya is from Nairobi as to oppose to somebody from mombasa
Unlike in Kenya , in Tanzania the English language was suppressed since the time of the founding father Mwalimu Julius K Nyerere and Kiswahili was given the first priority and declared the only national and official language that should be used in Government and all institutions of learning. That's why Tanzania have been trained to speak good Kiswahili.
Hata Tanzania kuna mikoani huko hawaongei kiswahili kizuri,,,inategemea wapi unatoka,,,na wana problem ya L na R
Kenyan here 😅. So, I'm still stuck at their academic Swahili is bomb. That's it, it must be physically painful being in a Tanzanian school. Fun fact... Tanzanian authors think their Kenyan counterparts make up unnecessary vocabularies which is weird because normal readers of said works rarely understand most of the vocabularies. Most Kenyans would rather listen to the radio or watch the 7 pm news bulletin which are primarily done in Swahili. The question is on the fluency or rather the Tanzanian rigidity to fluency which the Kenyan speaker lacks. Say the r and l phenomenona, it exists in kenyan Swahili in Bantu speakers like the Kisii. In Kenya it's rare so it's easy to spot, but since it is relatively broad in Tanzania it kind of dissolves into a norm.
😂😂😂 it is very painful
I am surprised that our Kenyan lady is not aware that Kiswahili at the Kenya coast is more or less the same as that of coastal Tanzania. The phrases that she is attributing to Tanzanian Kiswahili are normal phrases used in Mombasa.
Zege is concrete? Lord! There's a Swahili word for concrete?😁 Tanzanians do know a lot of Swahili. I got a grade A in my Secondary national examination in Swahili, but I don't get half of what's in Tanzanian Swahili songs. I always wondered what they were about
Kiswahili has been their language of instruction in school for a long time. So naturally they would need a word for everything.
@@michael_saleh Yeah, I guess it goes without saying. I do admire their mastery of the language sometimes.
😂zege.... I don't know why it sounds kama ugonjwa fulani
@@bantuvoicemuchaik.k.7715 IKR! Or intercourse or something🤣
@@michael_saleh do they learn maths and science in kiswahili?
Tanzania songs sounds swahili, we behave like we understand them but in real sense we don't get the meaning of the song details.
😂😂😂
Yeah true thus what we think ..thus what we learnt in high school..we sing to the songs but we dont understand
Unanipelekesha Msobemsobe ni unanipelekesha bila ya hiari/hovyohovyo/kwa kunizoa! Ni Lugha ya kiamri yaani ya kipolisi/kijeshi!
In Tz we use pesa/ hela for money but mkwanja it's a street language which youths like to use mkwanja ni lugha ya mitaani
Kujishongondoa means kujishauwa.
I speak mix swahili.kenya,tanzanian and Kongo swahili.maku mbili=ishilini,jioni=mangaribi, bibi yangu=mwanamke wangu....pesa:faranga,kununuwa:kuwuzisha
I'm Tanzanian and yes we used call currency as mkwanja especially when we bet on sports
adn thats informal. the formal word is hela while kenya the formal one they call it Pesa
Im Kenyan,my thoughts are always in English,but when it comes to speaking,I go for Slang
Swahili is broken down to lahaja, kimvita in mombasa, ki amu in Lamu, Kiunguja in zanzibar and Kingwana in DRc..and so forth so comparing better swahili in wht country ni upuzi...kaa na mamayako😂
There is no difference between written Kenyan and Tanzanian Kiswahili however there are differences in spoken Kiswahili because of intrusion of local slang such as sheng. For instance iko is a slang word denoting kuna. Its use was popularised by Indian merchants then the Congolese musians picked the word and used it extensively.
Yes definitely
No, 'iko' is a proper Swahili word that can be used for 'kuna'. Eg:
"Iko/ipo njia nyingine"
"Kuna/mna njia nyingine"
As far as my understanding of Kiswahili Sanifu is, the word iko and ipo meaning there is, must be used with qualifier grammatical prefix such as niko, liko , kiko, yako, viko etc likewise, nipo, lipo, kipo, yapo and vipo etc. Written Kiswahili follows strict rules however spoken Kiswahili may not follow grammar strictly. To answer you the word iko is there but it must with appropriate prefixes to make a grammatical meaning.
Neno "mkwanja" ni neno la kawaida sana linalotumika kwa vijana wa kitanzania ila si neno rasmi.
As a Kenyan, Tanzanian Swahili is really difficult. Ours is simple. When I listen to Tanzanian songs, I understand the message but some words used there seem not to exist. Anyway here in Kenya we use English right from Kindergarten
😂😂😂 yah I think for us it's easier because Swahili is what we speak 24/7
@@thatgirl_haju2509 Yes so true
@@thatgirl_haju2509 but for you I noticed that your English is so nice, you have probably not studied in Tanzania. You sound like you live abroad.
@@ItsFastNiQ no I studied in Tanzania all my life I am studying abroad now for my university thats it
@@ItsFastNiQ I did study in private school thou
Hizo nisingali na ningali huwa tunafunzwa ila tunahisi nikama nikupoteza muda
Just watched this and my little two piece is that "sheng" Kenyan slang is not real real Swahili but rather a combination of several tribal languages in Kenya including Swahili ...like sometimes I can listen to a sheng sentence and in that sentence there's a combination of Swahili,kikuku and luo...so yeah that's my opinion
Second, I know Swahili is a general language in both Kenya and Tanzania but really to be honest it's really hard to understand TZ'd Swahili as a Kenyan,my dad's from Tanzania and I barely understand him sometimes especially when he gets in to the deep deep Swahili.. so all in all Kenyan Swahili is quite different from Tanzanian while speaking but when you go to school like dictionary wise it's these same🤦 so sielewi why there is such a big difference in pronunciation from both countries.
Nikakuja is not pure Swahili
Swahili our brothers and sisters in Tanzania speak good original smooth Swahili,its just amazing... Our Kenyan Swahili is influenced by a lot of things especially different tribal languages, we have slang that I too don't understand, it's different for different age groups..
Oww that makes it very difficult to understand
I think the whole idea of slang is to ensure only a certain group understands locking outsiders, am conversant with slang in my area, but when someone from "mtaa" tofauti speaks, am as blank
Original? Nope. Even theirs is influenced by their vernacular languages. But unlike Kenya, Tanzania uses Swahili more and has more speakers, nearly 5 times Kenya's. But not the original. Even Zanzibar's is not the original but it is the written. The original is tough, very tough and belongs to the Bajuni but even amongst them, like every other language, there are dialects.
Am a kenyan but i little disagree with my sister expressing the kiswahili aspects between the two countries especially by saying that TZ speak faster...i believe most of Tz brothers and sisters speak without gaps in the wording and seem to pool words/voice. I understand what she means but maybe to demonstrate it's a little different as well as also depends where you come from and not forgetting the impacts of vernacular too