muslim logic - 👳🧕😏 "The quran means whatever I want it to mean, UNTIL we are in control. THEN it means what it SAYS." This is taqiyya. Stay away from the ☪ult of islam
It drives me absolutely nuts when they use the excuse; "You have to read it in Arabic to understand what it REALLY means". So... NOBODY can translate it into English or any other language to clear up all of the supposed confusion?? 🤔
Well, you're asking them to do what Allah could not. Read Quran 16:103 where Allah himself claims that there is no such thing as translating one language into another...
What is with this having to learn Arabic to worship God/read scriptures? That's what I like about Eastern Orthodoxy--we have an English-language Bible and much of our literature (Patristic/monastic in my case) is available. and of course, prayerbooks are readily available in English as well, along with services in English.. Just in case, you wonder about the thumbnail, I am a nun in Great Schema and while most don't wear a veil on the face, most don't go out of their monastery, I live in an assisted living community, so whilst I don't wear it inside, if I have to go on errands or to the doctor, I do. Anyhow, back to Islam. It's a crazy religion. There is a series of videos by a Sheikh Assalaam Al Hakeem-I couldn't believe some of some of the off-the-wall stuff discussed there and at other Muslim channels--Orthodoxy doesn't tell people how to use the bathroom--I guess the Fathers assumed people tend to be toilet-trained by the time they read, say, the Philokalia. These people remind me of the Pharisees, straining at a gnat whilst swallowing a camel. I love the channel Orthodox Shahad as well as AP, the channel owner is a former Muslim and can really tear Islamic nosense apart, as can AP. How any sane, educated person can be a Muslim is truly beyond me.
@@darthbaluuduh6598 - Quran 16:103 And most surely, We know that they say, Indeed, it is a human being who is teaching him. But the tongue of the one they allude to is foreign, while this is an evident Arabic tongue. Fadel Soliman, Bridges translation I know very well that the idolaters say: It is a human being who is teaching Muhammad (peace be upon him). They are lying in this claim of theirs. The language of the person whom they assume is teaching him is non-Arabic, whereas this Qurân has been revealed in the clear and highly eloquent Arabic language. How then do they claim that he received it from a non-Arab?! Abridged Explanation of the Quran And We know well that they say: Only a man teacheth him. The speech of him at whom they falsely hint is outlandish, and this is clear Arabic speech. Pickthall We know indeed that they say, "It is a man that teaches him." The tongue of him they wickedly point to is notably foreign, while this is Arabic, pure and clear. Yusuf Ali And We certainly know that they say, "It is only a human being who teaches him [i.e., the Prophet]." The tongue of the one they refer to is foreign, and this [recitation, i.e., Qurân] is [in] a clear Arabic language. Saheeh International وَلَقَدْ نَعْلَمُ أَنَّهُمْ يَقُولُونَ إِنَّمَا يُعَلِّمُهُۥ بَشَرٌ ۗ لِّسَانُ ٱلَّذِى يُلْحِدُونَ إِلَيْهِ أَعْجَمِىٌّ وَهَـٰذَا لِسَانٌ عَرَبِىٌّ مُّبِينٌ
Senior Iranian cleric Mohammad Abolghassem Doulabi says around 50,000 of Iran's 75,000 mosques are closed, showing the declining numbers of Iranians attending and the weakening of religiosity in the Islamic Republic.
As a Muslim I see it as a good thing. Iranians follow a false sect and they are ruining our image with their extremism and fake hadiths. We'll be more united. Edit: It's fake news.
@H K Phooey No but Shias are on a whole different level, and 👉collectively misguided👈 Didn't you see in the other comment some dude saying "temporary marriage is still practiced"? Shias caused this confusion about Islam.
Hi AP and David. Great discussion!. I’m not Muslim or looking to convert,, but if I was, the fact that Islam is fine with their male adherents having sex slaves, thus being totally down with rape, would be a complete and utter dealbreaker for me. How any woman can remain Muslim or convert is beyond me. What blows my mind is how any sane, educated Western woman could want to have anything with ISIL. Love your channel. Your channel and that of Qai at Orthodox Shahada are great for exposing the philosophical and spiritual bankruptcy of Islam.
@@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid "from another point of view" umm can you clarify what you mean . But yes psychologically there are women who are totally oblivious to the teachings until they experience actual true Islam.
@@PeaceToAll-sl1db I am no man's property. I am God's. Even beyond the disgusting disrespect of women, Muslim or non, I will have nothing to do with a religion which forbids monasticism.
I asked a co-worker who is a "revert" if prostitution is allowed in islam. He said no. Then I asked if it was allowed to have sex with slaves. He started to search on his smartphone... Yes that's allowed.
The very definition of prostituting 👇 Sahih al-Bukhari 4615 Narrated `Abdullah: We used to participate in the holy wars carried on by the Prophet (ﷺ) and we had no women (wives) with us. So we said (to the Prophet (ﷺ) ). "Shall we castrate ourselves?" But the Prophet (ﷺ) forbade us to do that and thenceforth he allowed us to marry a woman (temporarily) by giving her even a garment, and then he recited: "O you who believe! Do not make unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you."
@@AT-zq4stNope! I don't know the translation of "holy war" in Arabic. Are you better in translating than the professional translators in Saudi Sunnah website? Tell me sunnah translators got it wrong and you'll want to correct them 😎
Its interesting that d main topic of debate with Christianity is usually Trinity & d divinity of Christ, while d main debate with izlm is usually sěx; both on earth and in heaven, slavery/war/k1llings, child marriage and wife beating. So, if I'm an atheist looking to join a religion's practices while still remaining an atheist, which general practice sounds more moral without d rewards of heaven or hell?
Btw, not all Christians are trinitarians.. U have tritheists, and modalists too (those who believe that God is one person operating in 3 interacting modes/roles being Father Son and Holy Ghost). Nowadays the oneness Pentecosts, and i believe the Quakers have this faith. There is also Arians.. Who do not believe in a divinity in Christ.. Newton, the one and only, was critic of the trinity and his views were largely Arian.. He even write theology treatises next to his math/physics breakthroughs.. It's incorrect to assume Christianity is equivalent with Trinitarianism..
Also you have Christians who do no care about all the technicalities and specific terms. There are Christians that only care for Jesus and the Bible. When I hear people trying to make things more complicated than what they are it makes me question their motives.
muslim logic - 👳🧕😏 "The quran means whatever I want it to mean, UNTIL we are in control. THEN it means what it SAYS." This is taqiyya. Stay away from the ☪ult of islam
@@mark2tech If the Christian care about Jesus and the Bible and ignore the technicalities, then they really don't know the Bible. If you think you can fully comprehend God, then that's not God. The trinity is in the Bible. You can't be a christian if you don't admits the deity of Christ
AP should have a reaction video to an Islamic scholar video, with a Muslim reacting to the scholar. It would be interesting to see how a fellow Muslim critiques it.
They've already got excuses for that , ie he's not my scholar, he doesn't speak for all Muslims etc etc etc Islam is the religion of excuses , along with everything else insidious
Gandhi on xuslims and Islam after Moplaha xiots .This is what gandhi said to annie beasant. Mrs Annie Beasant Malabar has taught us what Islamic rule still means, and we do not want to see another specimen of the ‘Khilafat Raj’ in India. How much sympathy with the Moplas is felt by xuslims outside Malabar has been proved by the defence raised for them by their fellow believers, and by Mr. Gandhi himself, who stated that they had acted as they believed that religion taught them to act I fear that that is true; but there is no place in a civilised land for people who believe that their religion teaches them to xurder, xob, xape, xurn, or drive away out of the country those who refuse to apostatise from their ancestral faiths, except in its schools, under surveillance, or in its gaols. Book Pakistan or partition of india pg 275
That's quite an effective recruiting tool for misogynistic sociopaths. I think that's why fascism grows out of control. Those neighbors who never liked you? You can own them, literally.
There is apparently an idea about a law that will ban forced conversions in Pakistan. But then it was apparently some idiot who said something like, but why do we have Pakistan if we can't forcibly convert. Saw this on Harris sultan RUclips channel
Yes, slaves willingly have sex with the master. The power difference could make it that the person is willing but for some gain. So still not morally right.
There are three kinds of slavery in Islam: 1) ordinary work slavery, 2) sex slavery, and 3) for a Muslim woman, marriage (combination of work and sex slavery with higher social status and privileges).
As a blond Byzantine Catholic (pedo Mo’s favorite, I hear), I can tell you right now: I probably wouldn’t have lasted from all the beatings. I’d have been asking around about where to get some poisoned mushrooms, no doubt. And I’m proud of that! Re: the right vs left hand- the left hand probably represented possession, meaning something that you can use, but does not belong to you. The right hand probably represented title, or both possession and ownership. To have title means full rights over the chattel or land to do with as you please until death. With possession, your rights are limited. This is just speculation, but it makes sense.
Is that what they think about their mothers, sisters and daughters? That if they were taken captives they would instantly convert to different religion and willingly become sex slaves? Such a high view of women
44:30 stuff like this astounds me that Muslims say the Quran is the word of Allah from before creation and time yet you have things like this and even his child bride Aisha picked up on it and said my goodness your god hastens to fulfill your wishes or something of that nature did she not?
Seriously I cannot stop 🛑 laughing through these long streams. Like 3+ hrs. No joke 🤣 Btw listening 🎧 at work but I am still 💯 productive, so don't worry D wood and AP. Keep it up!!! ❤❤❤
@@Cls818 So you're fine with sex slavery but you don't like when Christ's takes about MARRIAGE between to consenting adults? Woman submitting to her husband and the husband being a servant of his wife? You don't like that, but totally 🆒 with sex slaves 😂😂😂
Whataboutism is the only "answer" they know because they never learned how to defend their stupid and very evil cult and for the most part thats because its indefensible...have you ever seen aa Abdul arguing with anything else than whataboutism? I didnt...its always the same game, people talk about something and the Abdul will say "but what about that other issue Here?"
@@ic.xc. Just use their rhetoric lol. "This was clearly only for those women back then" Besides, they try to appeal to a moral value they don't even care about.
2:00:00 By his tone and his mannerisms,I can safely bet that Daniel 100% believes in what he is selling here. Can't say if it's funny,scary or plainly sad.
short marriage is still allowed in Iran and apparently this is also the case among the Shia in Iraq. which can be seen, for example, in the documentary Iraq's Secret Sex Trade
DW hit the nail on the head man AP water off a ducks back simple anyway how dare you both do this when I'm sleeping in the UK 😊 Notty Bois 😁 hope all's well General DW and Lieutenant AP Blessings to you both and your households ALWAYS 🙏🏼
So Daniel Pikachu said it's better to practice islamic slavery than what we have currently. But in another breath, he'll and his friends will say that Islam ended slavery
Why Jesus died on the cross for us explained in simple terms… God is perfect in all his attributes. He is forever the same and unchanging (in the past, present, and future). That means he’s eternally perfect in holiness, love, mercy, justice, righteousness, etc. Since he is perfect in holiness, no sin can be in his presence, and since he is perfect in justice, all sin is punished. The Bible says, the wages of sin is death. This essentially means that all sin regardless of how minuscule or large the act is, will be punished. Practically speaking, let’s say a person lived his whole life and committed only one sin, a lie, he will forever be separated from god because sin is what separates us from a perfectly holy and just god. Regardless of how many good deeds this person does in their life, the wages of sin is death (spiritual and physical). That means you cannot bribe your way into heaven with good deeds. Also, god cannot just forgive you because even though he is love and merciful, he is eternally just and holy and all sin is punished. Imagine for a moment, that you get a speeding ticket and in court you tell the judge how sorry you are and that you will never speed again and you beg for forgiveness, and that you also are a very generous person who has donated thousands of dollars to the poor and who has volunteered thousands of hours helping others. A just judge will say good for you, and I’m glad you won’t speed again, but the fine of $200 still needs to be paid. Imagine how much more holy, righteous, and just god is. That being said, this is where the cross comes in to play. Jesus lived a holy life (meaning he committed no sin) and since he was unjustly punished and put to death, death could not hold him (penalty of sin is death) and therefore he rose from the dead, defeating death (Revelation 1:18 “I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death.”). Since sin is a transgression against god, god was the only one capable of providing a path for forgiveness/salvation. Sin against a holy god requires a perfect/eternal punishment/sacrifice. The cross is where god’s perfect justice (sin is punished) and mercy (forgiveness for our sins) meet. God’s perfect love for us is displayed through the cross because out of his own free will he made a path for salvation and a way for us to be justified (forgiveness of sin) before god. Jesus lived a life we have not lived (sinless), died the death we should have died, and paid the price we could not pay. That is why Jesus say’s I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one can come to the father except by me, because there is no other way to god or path for salvation. All of us have sinned and have fallen short of the glory of god, and the only way to be forgiven is to believe and put your faith in Jesus and into what Jesus has done for us on the cross! Praise all be to the King and Savior the Lord God Almighty Jesus Christ!!!
i have read jokes: An atheist and a Christian go to a bar. and then i see these two gentlemen together. always amused how these 2 men with different perspectives of religion can have such a friendly banter. O well. i will just enjoy the banter.
The language argument is always ridiculous. Of course it is best to read any book in it's original language, however, ~80% of Muslims (so some 1.5 billion people) are not native Arabic speakers. Probably many Muslims in little Arabic villages do not know how to read. Yet, they are 100% Muslims but anyone who has spent years reading the Islamic sources, translated by the best Islamic scholars, doesn't understand anything because they do not know Arabic! If you knew Arabic they would still complain that it's not your native language! It it was your native language, they would complain that you're not a scholar of classical Arabic...
How would Muslims square away the prohibition against "mutilating" one's slaves with the rampant practice in the Islamic slave trade of making male slaves into eunuchs?
Please do some shorter clips, even in a 1-hour edited video, with the main parts. Thanks. The segments at ca. 46:00, 1:09:00, 1:22:00, 1:34:00, 1:54:00, 2:04:00, 2:18:00, 2:23:00, 2:37:00, 2:42:30, 2:48:00, 2:51:00, 2:58:00, 3:00:00, 3:02:50, 3:07:15 ... and more, are good.
Ya, iskam is true !!! 2155 Abu Sa’id Al Khudri said “The Apostle of Allaah(ﷺ) sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of Apostle of Allaah (ﷺ) were reluctant to have relations with the female captives because of their pagan husbands. So, Allaah the exalted sent down the Qur’anic verse “And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hand posses.” This is to say that they are lawful for them when they complete their waiting period.
Wow.....just Wow. This seems to be enforcing the rape of captives. You either have sex with captives or you don't get to have sex at all. Am I reading that right?
This is soooo awful…can you imagine a ridiculous Islamic pimp having a haram of women and what he would read into this and think he can do dirty work. Like a Catholic who goes about sinning all day and uses confession to get forgiveness( I know this for a fact).
@@godfreym3550 His confession is his idea of contrition…just not concerned as he can come every Monday to confession ,his priest says he is forgiven. So he can do it all over again.
1:54:43 That convert dude is not wrong. I have seen many chicken 🐔 flocking to KFC cuz their owners are stealing their eggs. Chicks say KFC sounds sexy
I am glad you two are still cooperating for exposing and destroying false islam. I'm sure David is praying for Ridvan to repent and get to know Jesus as Saviour and the only truth.
No, it's far more likely that AP is praying to the Flying Spaghetti Monster, the Purple People Eater, or Puff the Magic Dragon for DW to admit he has never really stopped being an atheist. But of course that will never happen because then DW would lose his vast Christian audience. 😇
It's a beautiful thing to see when two men go shoulder to shoulder against an evil they see in world A discussion with Dr Jason Reza Jorjani on the topic of Islam would be vert fruitful.
In his world of thought, perhaps the woman's property is his property. or that she cannot own anything without the man's permission or that she has bought the slave with the man's money?
Fun fact, India and Pakistan have a large native black communities called the “Siddi.” Who are the descendants of black slaves bought and sold in the Islamic slave trade across the Indian ocean.
Just cannot believe all this stupid nonsense that anyone would even think this is a sensible discussion to have about a " prophet".....no other genuine religious saint, holy man, mystic, messiah, religious body would be discussed in this way or would have in their sacred writings all this stuff about sex and debauchery ! It's such a joke !! Only a crazy cult leader would be concerned with these things, yet they are seriously discussed. As these kind of things do arise in groups today they are recognised as the criminal behaviour of some deranged individual. Its just such a nuts thing to defend !
For Bala Sing on Old Testament. If you are talking about sparing virgins alive, you have to consider why they are sparing them. The killing of Midianites in the context of that verse is strickly because for their fornications. God commanded to kill Israelites and Midianites who committed fornication and spare the virgins alive. If in Islamic eyes means to spare vurgins so that Israelites can have intercourse with them like muslims did, there is no point of sparing virgins from the first place. This simple logic and context is very hard for some people to understand so I had to write it in this way.
There is a hadith that illustrates how much women wanted to be captured by Muslims, they run to the mountains from them, so Salama had to shut an arrow between them and the mountain, because he was afraid he will not catch them before they hide: It has been narrated on the authority of Salama (b. al-Akwa') who said: We fought against the Fazara, and Abu Bakr was the commander over us. He had been appointed by the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ). When we were only at an hour's distance from the water of the enemy, Abu Bakr ordered us to attack. We made a halt during the last part of the night to rest and then we attacked from all sides and reached their watering-place where a battle was fought. Some of the enemies were killed and some were taken prisoners. I saw a group of persons that consisted of women and children. I was afraid lest they should reach the mountain before me, so I shot an arrow between them and the mountain. When they saw the arrow, they stopped. So I brought them, driving them along. Among them was a woman from Banu Fazara. She was wearing a leather coat. With her was her daughter who was one of the prettiest girls in Arabia. I drove them along until I brought them to Abu Bakr who bestowed that girl upon me as a prize. So we arrived in Medina. I had not yet disrobed her when the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) met me in the street and said: Give me that girl, O Salama. I said: Messenger of Allah, she has fascinated me. I had not yet disrobed her. When on the next day the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) again met me in the street, he said: O Salama, give me that girl, may God bless your father. I said: She is for you, Messenger of Allah! By Allah. I have not yet disrobed her. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) sent her to the people of Mecca, and surrendered her as ransom for a number of Muslims who had been kept as prisoners at Mecca. Sahih Muslim 1755
@Apostate Prophet You should block users who use hate speech in your comment section. I was subjected to really gross antisemitism in your chat. Do you plan on getting moderators in your chats to at least filter out the actual hate speech?
@BLACKANGEL I'll have to go back and find it. Very close to the end. User kitt3h referenced my Jewish background, my nose, and told me to stay out of "their holy texts" as if my people didn't create them.
And also Mut'a 👇 Sahih al-Bukhari 4615 Narrated `Abdullah: We used to participate in the holy wars carried on by the Prophet (ﷺ) and we had no women (wives) with us. So we said (to the Prophet (ﷺ) ). "Shall we castrate ourselves?" But the Prophet (ﷺ) forbade us to do that and thenceforth he allowed us to marry a woman (temporarily) by giving her even a garment, and then he recited: "O you who believe! Do not make unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you."
Does anybody know when the Hebrew Mut'a (Deut 21) was explicitly outlawed? I can't find a passage in the Bible. Must have been later if at all. BTW, marital sexual abuse was not a crime until much later.
War does not take away freedom of movement and association. To be free to associate with whomever you want in whatever relation you want based on the freedom to go where you want is a biblical right. A human being does not become your property through war.
These past few days watching my portfolio decline is very disheartening . Holding doesn't really profit much , any idea how on how to earn better on the short run ?
One important reason for taking captives was obviously for the purpose of making money. They would have to be bought back by their relatives or sold at the slave market or held for the usage of their owner until such time as he trades them for some benefit. This is against biblical laws.
he was diagnosed...he recovered. circumstances bring out either the best in us or our demons that we may act upon. when you judge another then that makes you a sociopath, whether a sci diagnosis or not. DW is human and he is using his life to preach Jesus' Word.
Just a question to David (or Christians in general), how do you make sense of Old Testament (OT) ethics? I get it that the New Testament (NT) overrides the OT, but if God is ominscient then he cannot change his mind as he knows the future, why on earth would he be okay with all the horrible things we read in the OT?
The awful sin in the Old Testament is what people chose to do instead of following God, it’s in there to show us the deep disgusting sin people get into without following God, the 10 commandments , and needing a sacrifice /asheep at the time for forgiveness of these horrible sins.Then the New Testament shows Gods ever reaching love for the people of the world, starting with the Jew and extending to the whole world…how great is his love for us in that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us.
@@mattholt2451 in the beginning he made everything good. The people messed it up ,they wanted kings. Basically he would bend to their wishes of having a king etc etc and then he would have to teach them a lesson ,deal with their horrific wars ,cause they wanted their own way.
@Max Lightning I know that but he is trying to use nicer words. If he said you just just pay fine if you rape your slave that might sound worse to his audience
Mut'ah (temporary marriage) is haram, only Shias do it. "'Ali b. AbiTalib reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) prohibited on the Day of Khaibar the contracting of temporary marriage with women and the eating of the flesh of domestic asses." - Sahih Muslim 1407a
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muslim logic - 👳🧕😏 "The quran means whatever I want it to mean, UNTIL we are in control. THEN it means what it SAYS."
This is taqiyya. Stay away from the ☪ult of islam
Amen! This is why I want nothing to do with Islam'
Absolutely 100 % correct.
I could'nt agree more
Cult of Muhammad. Imagine inventing a "religion" to fool everyone around you into treating you like god
@@harrietharlow9929 then you are fare away from the truth, there is a day called the day of judgement.
It drives me absolutely nuts when they use the excuse; "You have to read it in Arabic to understand what it REALLY means".
So... NOBODY can translate it into English or any other language to clear up all of the supposed confusion?? 🤔
As if Arabic is not to translate, which is a lie.
Well, you're asking them to do what Allah could not. Read Quran 16:103 where Allah himself claims that there is no such thing as translating one language into another...
@@darthbaluuduh6598 because Allah (also called Muhammad) unfortunately is illiterate.
What is with this having to learn Arabic to worship God/read scriptures? That's what I like about Eastern Orthodoxy--we have an English-language Bible and much of our literature (Patristic/monastic in my case) is available. and of course, prayerbooks are readily available in English as well, along with services in English..
Just in case, you wonder about the thumbnail, I am a nun in Great Schema and while most don't wear a veil on the face, most don't go out of their monastery, I live in an assisted living community, so whilst I don't wear it inside, if I have to go on errands or to the doctor, I do.
Anyhow, back to Islam. It's a crazy religion. There is a series of videos by a Sheikh Assalaam Al Hakeem-I couldn't believe some of some of the off-the-wall stuff discussed there and at other Muslim channels--Orthodoxy doesn't tell people how to use the bathroom--I guess the Fathers assumed people tend to be toilet-trained by the time they read, say, the Philokalia. These people remind me of the Pharisees, straining at a gnat whilst swallowing a camel. I love the channel Orthodox Shahad as well as AP, the channel owner is a former Muslim and can really tear Islamic nosense apart, as can AP.
How any sane, educated person can be a Muslim is truly beyond me.
@@darthbaluuduh6598 -
Quran 16:103
And most surely, We know that they say, Indeed, it is a human being who is teaching him. But the tongue of the one they allude to is foreign, while this is an evident Arabic tongue.
Fadel Soliman, Bridges translation
I know very well that the idolaters say: It is a human being who is teaching Muhammad (peace be upon him). They are lying in this claim of theirs. The language of the person whom they assume is teaching him is non-Arabic, whereas this Qurân has been revealed in the clear and highly eloquent Arabic language. How then do they claim that he received it from a non-Arab?!
Abridged Explanation of the Quran
And We know well that they say: Only a man teacheth him. The speech of him at whom they falsely hint is outlandish, and this is clear Arabic speech.
Pickthall
We know indeed that they say, "It is a man that teaches him." The tongue of him they wickedly point to is notably foreign, while this is Arabic, pure and clear.
Yusuf Ali
And We certainly know that they say, "It is only a human being who teaches him [i.e., the Prophet]." The tongue of the one they refer to is foreign, and this [recitation, i.e., Qurân] is [in] a clear Arabic language.
Saheeh International
وَلَقَدْ نَعْلَمُ أَنَّهُمْ يَقُولُونَ إِنَّمَا يُعَلِّمُهُۥ بَشَرٌ ۗ لِّسَانُ ٱلَّذِى يُلْحِدُونَ إِلَيْهِ أَعْجَمِىٌّ وَهَـٰذَا لِسَانٌ عَرَبِىٌّ مُّبِينٌ
Muslim: we are not allowed to have sex with our sex slaves 😂
islam is a brain fart !
If you read the quran you are muslim if you understand the quran then you are ex muslim
Or a liar
@@ban_tuolol😂
well have you even read your corrupted bible??
Senior Iranian cleric Mohammad Abolghassem Doulabi says around 50,000 of Iran's 75,000 mosques are closed, showing the declining numbers of Iranians attending and the weakening of religiosity in the Islamic Republic.
As a Muslim I see it as a good thing. Iranians follow a false sect and they are ruining our image with their extremism and fake hadiths. We'll be more united.
Edit: It's fake news.
@H K Phooey No but Shias are on a whole different level, and 👉collectively misguided👈
Didn't you see in the other comment some dude saying "temporary marriage is still practiced"?
Shias caused this confusion about Islam.
stop telling infidel lies
50,000 of 75,000 mosques closed!!! I love good news!!! 😀💖
@@deewesthill1213 I've read Iranians say it's fake news anyway.
Read the full context. Iranians are still religious.
Hi AP and David. Great discussion!. I’m not Muslim or looking to convert,, but if I was, the fact that Islam is fine with their male adherents having sex slaves, thus being totally down with rape, would be a complete and utter dealbreaker for me. How any woman can remain Muslim or convert is beyond me. What blows my mind is how any sane, educated Western woman could want to have anything with ISIL.
Love your channel. Your channel and that of Qai at Orthodox Shahada are great for exposing the philosophical and spiritual bankruptcy of Islam.
Maybe you could do a study with interviews of western women becoming Islamic converts via marriage, etc. from another point of view.
How do you equate having sex with slaves to being able to rape the
@@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid "from another point of view" umm can you clarify what you mean . But yes psychologically there are women who are totally oblivious to the teachings until they experience actual true Islam.
allah made women property of the man. the man can do with his property as he sees fit.
@@PeaceToAll-sl1db I am no man's property. I am God's. Even beyond the disgusting disrespect of women, Muslim or non, I will have nothing to do with a religion which forbids monasticism.
Where Islam ends
Humanity thrives
Alhamdullilah!🤣😂
Religion*
Some are just more violent than others
What u on abou😂 lay off the drugs
Islam is a Lifestyle ❤
@@alipower3982 lifestyle of zombies?🤔
I asked a co-worker who is a "revert" if prostitution is allowed in islam. He said no. Then I asked if it was allowed to have sex with slaves. He started to search on his smartphone... Yes that's allowed.
The very definition of prostituting 👇
Sahih al-Bukhari 4615
Narrated `Abdullah:
We used to participate in the holy wars carried on by the Prophet (ﷺ) and we had no women (wives) with us. So we said (to the Prophet (ﷺ) ). "Shall we castrate ourselves?" But the Prophet (ﷺ) forbade us to do that and thenceforth he allowed us to marry a woman (temporarily) by giving her even a garment, and then he recited: "O you who believe! Do not make unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you."
@@delmanorshun2471 You and I know that, but a revert does not know that.
@@delmanorshun2471
Can you tell me how to say holy war in Arabic?
@@AT-zq4stNope! I don't know the translation of "holy war" in Arabic.
Are you better in translating than the professional translators in Saudi Sunnah website?
Tell me sunnah translators got it wrong and you'll want to correct them 😎
@@AT-zq4st By the way, I quoted that Hadith so as to point out something bad that Muhammad ordered.... Mut'a(Temporary marriage)
Its interesting that d main topic of debate with Christianity is usually Trinity & d divinity of Christ, while d main debate with izlm is usually sěx; both on earth and in heaven, slavery/war/k1llings, child marriage and wife beating. So, if I'm an atheist looking to join a religion's practices while still remaining an atheist, which general practice sounds more moral without d rewards of heaven or hell?
Btw, not all Christians are trinitarians..
U have tritheists, and modalists too (those who believe that God is one person operating in 3 interacting modes/roles being Father Son and Holy Ghost). Nowadays the oneness Pentecosts, and i believe the Quakers have this faith.
There is also Arians..
Who do not believe in a divinity in Christ..
Newton, the one and only, was critic of the trinity and his views were largely Arian..
He even write theology treatises next to his math/physics breakthroughs..
It's incorrect to assume Christianity is equivalent with Trinitarianism..
@@fouadhoblos3611 sure but orthodox Christianity is always trinitarianism.
Also you have Christians who do no care about all the technicalities and specific terms. There are Christians that only care for Jesus and the Bible. When I hear people trying to make things more complicated than what they are it makes me question their motives.
muslim logic - 👳🧕😏 "The quran means whatever I want it to mean, UNTIL we are in control. THEN it means what it SAYS."
This is taqiyya. Stay away from the ☪ult of islam
@@mark2tech If the Christian care about Jesus and the Bible and ignore the technicalities, then they really don't know the Bible. If you think you can fully comprehend God, then that's not God. The trinity is in the Bible. You can't be a christian if you don't admits the deity of Christ
AP should have a reaction video to an Islamic scholar video, with a Muslim reacting to the scholar. It would be interesting to see how a fellow Muslim critiques it.
They've already got excuses for that , ie he's not my scholar, he doesn't speak for all Muslims etc etc etc Islam is the religion of excuses , along with everything else insidious
Great idea, getting hotter by the day
They wouldn't critique it, they'd agree and contradict and deny contradiction later.
Muslims can lie in islam as long as they lie to non muslims
AP laughing every time the convert was speaking Arabic 🤣
"What a brainwashed ummah we have today." Sheikh Imran Hosein
Apparently everyone hates the guy lol and calls him a closeted orthodox christian ._.
Gandhi on xuslims and Islam after Moplaha xiots .This is what gandhi
said to annie beasant.
Mrs Annie Beasant
Malabar has taught us what
Islamic rule still means, and we do not want to see another specimen
of the ‘Khilafat Raj’ in India. How much sympathy with the Moplas
is felt by xuslims outside Malabar has been proved by the defence
raised for them by their fellow believers, and by Mr. Gandhi himself,
who stated that they had acted as they believed that religion taught
them to act I fear that that is true; but there is no place in a civilised
land for people who believe that their religion teaches them to xurder,
xob, xape, xurn, or drive away out of the country those who refuse
to apostatise from their ancestral faiths, except in its schools, under
surveillance, or in its gaols.
Book Pakistan or partition of india pg 275
Good to see you again, I pray your family is well.
Maybe this comment is not related but holy shit, your friendship is hillarious and wholesome 😆 Keep doing what you're doing guys ✌️
Thank you A p ! Please don't stop !
That's quite an effective recruiting tool for misogynistic sociopaths.
I think that's why fascism grows out of control. Those neighbors who never liked you? You can own them, literally.
There is apparently an idea about a law that will ban forced conversions in Pakistan. But then it was apparently some idiot who said something like, but why do we have Pakistan if we can't forcibly convert. Saw this on Harris sultan RUclips channel
How is it non-consensual when the owner agrees. Duh.
The woman doesn't necessarily agree. In which case it is rape.
They literaly will use this as a "argument"
Yes, slaves willingly have sex with the master. The power difference could make it that the person is willing but for some gain. So still not morally right.
There are three kinds of slavery in Islam: 1) ordinary work slavery, 2) sex slavery, and 3) for a Muslim woman, marriage (combination of work and sex slavery with higher social status and privileges).
As a blond Byzantine Catholic (pedo Mo’s favorite, I hear), I can tell you right now: I probably wouldn’t have lasted from all the beatings. I’d have been asking around about where to get some poisoned mushrooms, no doubt. And I’m proud of that!
Re: the right vs left hand- the left hand probably represented possession, meaning something that you can use, but does not belong to you. The right hand probably represented title, or both possession and ownership. To have title means full rights over the chattel or land to do with as you please until death. With possession, your rights are limited. This is just speculation, but it makes sense.
Your fake bible is filled with sex slavery kid, and your god impregnated a 12 year old girl.
Is that what they think about their mothers, sisters and daughters? That if they were taken captives they would instantly convert to different religion and willingly become sex slaves? Such a high view of women
44:30 stuff like this astounds me that Muslims say the Quran is the word of Allah from before creation and time yet you have things like this and even his child bride Aisha picked up on it and said my goodness your god hastens to fulfill your wishes or something of that nature did she not?
Seriously I cannot stop 🛑 laughing through these long streams. Like 3+ hrs. No joke 🤣
Btw listening 🎧 at work but I am still 💯 productive, so don't worry D wood and AP. Keep it up!!! ❤❤❤
You fool is another dumb
@@Cls818 Your point?
Aboutism? 😂😂
@@Cls818 So you're fine with sex slavery but you don't like when Christ's takes about MARRIAGE between to consenting adults? Woman submitting to her husband and the husband being a servant of his wife? You don't like that, but totally 🆒 with sex slaves 😂😂😂
Whataboutism is the only "answer" they know because they never learned how to defend their stupid and very evil cult and for the most part thats because its indefensible...have you ever seen aa Abdul arguing with anything else than whataboutism? I didnt...its always the same game, people talk about something and the Abdul will say "but what about that other issue Here?"
@@ic.xc. Just use their rhetoric lol. "This was clearly only for those women back then"
Besides, they try to appeal to a moral value they don't even care about.
Thanks for what y'all do!
Odlicna diskusija, hvala.
Я знаю русский (и немного украинский) и понял что ты написала без перевода 🤣🤣
@@milkman2758 I ja tebe razumem bez prevoda :)
🫂
@@milkman2758я тоже понял без перевода
@@miovicdina7706хаха отлично, что мы славяне можем понимать друг друга даже без перевода!
@@sorguvasfen2426 Da, odlicno.🙂
Idemo sa Apostate Prophet - om u slovenske zemlje, algoritme!!
Thanks!
15:00 _"Habibi, yalla!"_
😂 So scholarly...
AP and David Wood can start a comedy channel 😂😂 You guys are having way too much fun whilst doing this! Haha
I mean you would go mad talking about shit like this without joking about it here and there.
2:00:00
By his tone and his mannerisms,I can safely bet that Daniel 100% believes in what he is selling here.
Can't say if it's funny,scary or plainly sad.
Exactly 💯. Not to mention Daniel sounds just like George Santos.
Anyone here download Christian Prince's last video? (7 hrs long!)
All his videos have been removed. I'm seeking out the last 2. ... help ... anyone?
KingofChrist has many videos from CP
@@goudvisgoldie9048 Thank you - going there now.
short marriage is still allowed in Iran and apparently this is also the case among the Shia in Iraq. which can be seen, for example, in the documentary Iraq's Secret Sex Trade
DW hit the nail on the head man AP water off a ducks back simple anyway how dare you both do this when I'm sleeping in the UK 😊 Notty Bois 😁 hope all's well General DW and Lieutenant AP Blessings to you both and your households ALWAYS 🙏🏼
RUclips has double standards. Some people can say anything while others get cyber stalked and harassed.
So Daniel Pikachu said it's better to practice islamic slavery than what we have currently. But in another breath, he'll and his friends will say that Islam ended slavery
1:12:00
😂😂😂😂
Like i've said this many times before.
Dawah humor is underrated.
@@Cls818 You're desperate. 😆
Right and right wing may be against or serving each other .Sometimes they are on the same wavelength .Away from topic or discussions
Why Jesus died on the cross for us explained in simple terms…
God is perfect in all his attributes. He is forever the same and unchanging (in the past, present, and future). That means he’s eternally perfect in holiness, love, mercy, justice, righteousness, etc. Since he is perfect in holiness, no sin can be in his presence, and since he is perfect in justice, all sin is punished. The Bible says, the wages of sin is death. This essentially means that all sin regardless of how minuscule or large the act is, will be punished. Practically speaking, let’s say a person lived his whole life and committed only one sin, a lie, he will forever be separated from god because sin is what separates us from a perfectly holy and just god. Regardless of how many good deeds this person does in their life, the wages of sin is death (spiritual and physical). That means you cannot bribe your way into heaven with good deeds. Also, god cannot just forgive you because even though he is love and merciful, he is eternally just and holy and all sin is punished. Imagine for a moment, that you get a speeding ticket and in court you tell the judge how sorry you are and that you will never speed again and you beg for forgiveness, and that you also are a very generous person who has donated thousands of dollars to the poor and who has volunteered thousands of hours helping others. A just judge will say good for you, and I’m glad you won’t speed again, but the fine of $200 still needs to be paid. Imagine how much more holy, righteous, and just god is.
That being said, this is where the cross comes in to play. Jesus lived a holy life (meaning he committed no sin) and since he was unjustly punished and put to death, death could not hold him (penalty of sin is death) and therefore he rose from the dead, defeating death (Revelation 1:18 “I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death.”). Since sin is a transgression against god, god was the only one capable of providing a path for forgiveness/salvation. Sin against a holy god requires a perfect/eternal punishment/sacrifice. The cross is where god’s perfect justice (sin is punished) and mercy (forgiveness for our sins) meet. God’s perfect love for us is displayed through the cross because out of his own free will he made a path for salvation and a way for us to be justified (forgiveness of sin) before god. Jesus lived a life we have not lived (sinless), died the death we should have died, and paid the price we could not pay. That is why Jesus say’s I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one can come to the father except by me, because there is no other way to god or path for salvation. All of us have sinned and have fallen short of the glory of god, and the only way to be forgiven is to believe and put your faith in Jesus and into what Jesus has done for us on the cross! Praise all be to the King and Savior the Lord God Almighty Jesus Christ!!!
i have read jokes: An atheist and a Christian go to a bar. and then i see these two gentlemen together. always amused how these 2 men with different perspectives of religion can have such a friendly banter. O well. i will just enjoy the banter.
Praise be to God the Father,Son and Holy Spirit 🙏 ✝️🕊
I love jesus 🙏🙏🙏 may god bless you
Ameen!
The language argument is always ridiculous. Of course it is best to read any book in it's original language, however, ~80% of Muslims (so some 1.5 billion people) are not native Arabic speakers. Probably many Muslims in little Arabic villages do not know how to read. Yet, they are 100% Muslims but anyone who has spent years reading the Islamic sources, translated by the best Islamic scholars, doesn't understand anything because they do not know Arabic! If you knew Arabic they would still complain that it's not your native language! It it was your native language, they would complain that you're not a scholar of classical Arabic...
Strange that this video doesn't appear under the Videos section of your channel. 🤔
Edit: Oh, it's under "Live" I see.
Coitus Interruptus is the modern day pull out game!!
Tq david and ap , gud session
Praise the lord Optimus Prime that these streams are so long!!!! Roll Out! 🙏
How would Muslims square away the prohibition against "mutilating" one's slaves with the rampant practice in the Islamic slave trade of making male slaves into eunuchs?
Please do some shorter clips, even in a 1-hour edited video, with the main parts. Thanks. The segments at ca. 46:00, 1:09:00, 1:22:00, 1:34:00, 1:54:00, 2:04:00, 2:18:00, 2:23:00, 2:37:00, 2:42:30, 2:48:00, 2:51:00, 2:58:00, 3:00:00, 3:02:50, 3:07:15 ... and more, are good.
Where do i get that music you play in the beginning as background music, AP?
Good job AP quitting smoking🙏
I didn’t know if AP was being serious or not when he said he smoked 🤔
Good ..guys protect your europian people.. and this world also ..
Yes, because India is in trouble now because how we let the muslims convert hindus to Islam through a lies and by force
True 🤝
Ya, iskam is true !!!
2155
Abu Sa’id Al Khudri said “The Apostle of Allaah(ﷺ) sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of Apostle of Allaah (ﷺ) were reluctant to have relations with the female captives because of their pagan husbands. So, Allaah the exalted sent down the Qur’anic verse “And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hand posses.” This is to say that they are lawful for them when they complete their waiting period.
Wow.....just Wow. This seems to be enforcing the rape of captives. You either have sex with captives or you don't get to have sex at all. Am I reading that right?
This is soooo awful…can you imagine a ridiculous Islamic pimp having a haram of women and what he would read into this and think he can do dirty work. Like a Catholic who goes about sinning all day and uses confession to get forgiveness( I know this for a fact).
@@speaktruth9313 You do realise in Catholicism, confession requires contrition?
@@godfreym3550 His confession is his idea of contrition…just not concerned as he can come every Monday to confession ,his priest says he is forgiven. So he can do it all over again.
The worst thing that happened to islam is internet
Real men drink water... 31:50 Like a boss. Water. Be a boss..
1:54:43 That convert dude is not wrong. I have seen many chicken 🐔 flocking to KFC cuz their owners are stealing their eggs. Chicks say KFC sounds sexy
I didn’t know if AP was being serious or not when he said he smoked 🤔
I think I might go buy the Quran now, you guys are having too much fun reading it! 😂
2:19:43
sounds like their entire theory is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
I am glad you two are still cooperating for exposing and destroying false islam. I'm sure David is praying for Ridvan to repent and get to know Jesus as Saviour and the only truth.
Islam is true no other ❤
No, it's far more likely that AP is praying to the Flying Spaghetti Monster, the Purple People Eater, or Puff the Magic Dragon for DW to admit he has never really stopped being an atheist. But of course that will never happen because then DW would lose his vast Christian audience. 😇
Sheesh, the title is damning...
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Goodness, if these people aren't embarrassed then I don't know...
Why you don't do us videos anymore? We need those videos like you used to do
AP makes a better future for world
It's a beautiful thing to see when two men go shoulder to shoulder against an evil they see in world
A discussion with Dr Jason Reza Jorjani on the topic of Islam would be vert fruitful.
36:55 Zoroastrians have scriptures and there's a hadith authorising treating them as dhimmis
1:06:30 - 1:09:00 + 1:21:30 + 1:31:00
Dude, you should do an interview on the Kevin J Johnston show
A very commonly held belief amongst them " it means you can have more children " ( to spread your religion )
नमन आपको
If you see an atheist and a Christian on the same page then know that you are on the wrong turn.
In his world of thought, perhaps the woman's property is his property. or that she cannot own anything without the man's permission or that she has bought the slave with the man's money?
1 Timothy 1:9,10
Deuteronomy 24:7
Stealing is a sin in both New and Old testament for any muslim trying to nitpick these verses.
Kennedy should never have asked them to end slavery. Maybe if people saw the stuff going on they'd think twice about islam. Oh well..
Fun fact, India and Pakistan have a large native black communities called the “Siddi.” Who are the descendants of black slaves bought and sold in the Islamic slave trade across the Indian ocean.
So what is that piece of garbage teaming with fareed?
Muslimism is a lucrative career today. You don't get censored
Please change data rate to have lowest option (144 p).
Just cannot believe all this stupid nonsense that anyone would even think this is a sensible discussion to have about a " prophet".....no other genuine religious saint, holy man, mystic, messiah, religious body would be discussed in this way or would have in their sacred writings all this stuff about sex and debauchery ! It's such a joke !! Only a crazy cult leader would be concerned with these things, yet they are seriously discussed. As these kind of things do arise in groups today they are recognised as the criminal behaviour of some deranged individual. Its just such a nuts thing to defend !
For Bala Sing on Old Testament. If you are talking about sparing virgins alive, you have to consider why they are sparing them. The killing of Midianites in the context of that verse is strickly because for their fornications. God commanded to kill Israelites and Midianites who committed fornication and spare the virgins alive. If in Islamic eyes means to spare vurgins so that Israelites can have intercourse with them like muslims did, there is no point of sparing virgins from the first place. This simple logic and context is very hard for some people to understand so I had to write it in this way.
There is a hadith that illustrates how much women wanted to be captured by Muslims, they run to the mountains from them, so Salama had to shut an arrow between them and the mountain, because he was afraid he will not catch them before they hide:
It has been narrated on the authority of Salama (b. al-Akwa') who said:
We fought against the Fazara, and Abu Bakr was the commander over us. He had been appointed by the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ). When we were only at an hour's distance from the water of the enemy, Abu Bakr ordered us to attack. We made a halt during the last part of the night to rest and then we attacked from all sides and reached their watering-place where a battle was fought. Some of the enemies were killed and some were taken prisoners. I saw a group of persons that consisted of women and children. I was afraid lest they should reach the mountain before me, so I shot an arrow between them and the mountain. When they saw the arrow, they stopped. So I brought them, driving them along. Among them was a woman from Banu Fazara. She was wearing a leather coat. With her was her daughter who was one of the prettiest girls in Arabia. I drove them along until I brought them to Abu Bakr who bestowed that girl upon me as a prize. So we arrived in Medina. I had not yet disrobed her when the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) met me in the street and said: Give me that girl, O Salama. I said: Messenger of Allah, she has fascinated me. I had not yet disrobed her. When on the next day the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) again met me in the street, he said: O Salama, give me that girl, may God bless your father. I said: She is for you, Messenger of Allah! By Allah. I have not yet disrobed her. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) sent her to the people of Mecca, and surrendered her as ransom for a number of Muslims who had been kept as prisoners at Mecca. Sahih Muslim 1755
1:28:00 gonna put this off till tomorrow
alright, finished!
@Apostate Prophet You should block users who use hate speech in your comment section. I was subjected to really gross antisemitism in your chat. Do you plan on getting moderators in your chats to at least filter out the actual hate speech?
Timestamps please
Fyi, Balckangel is a moderator, so do give those time stamps if you want this reviewed.
@BLACKANGEL I'll have to go back and find it. Very close to the end. User kitt3h referenced my Jewish background, my nose, and told me to stay out of "their holy texts" as if my people didn't create them.
@@Dilly972 Thank you.
@@BLACK.ANGEL. Also just subscribed to your channel. Looks good!
Enslavement is a grave crime.
And so is rape.
Period.
Mary the Copt was a gift, so gifting was also an option to obtain slaves
And also Mut'a 👇
Sahih al-Bukhari 4615
Narrated `Abdullah:
We used to participate in the holy wars carried on by the Prophet (ﷺ) and we had no women (wives) with us. So we said (to the Prophet (ﷺ) ). "Shall we castrate ourselves?" But the Prophet (ﷺ) forbade us to do that and thenceforth he allowed us to marry a woman (temporarily) by giving her even a garment, and then he recited: "O you who believe! Do not make unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you."
@@delmanorshun2471 I'm not sure that's about slavery though, muta was done with free women
Does anybody know when the Hebrew Mut'a (Deut 21) was explicitly outlawed? I can't find a passage in the Bible. Must have been later if at all. BTW, marital sexual abuse was not a crime until much later.
War does not take away freedom of movement and association. To be free to associate with whomever you want in whatever relation you want based on the freedom to go where you want is a biblical right. A human being does not become your property through war.
These past few days watching my portfolio decline is very disheartening . Holding doesn't really profit much , any idea how on how to earn better on the short run ?
How can I get in touch with her? I am really interested
have you tried contacting Saikh ya boody
@@mohamad5762 my heart is breaking
But then it is also the case that a muslin is not allowed to take other Muslims as slaves. What I have understood
You probably made it a little too easy for them. Christian Prince should have said which scholar and indicated the source
One important reason for taking captives was obviously for the purpose of making money. They would have to be bought back by their relatives or sold at the slave market or held for the usage of their owner until such time as he trades them for some benefit. This is against biblical laws.
2:32:55 well... there's Vladimir Putin, for one...
AP, you're asking David Wood how he feels, friendly reminder that he's a diagnosed sociopath 😂
Friendly reminder: you forgot that God is able to heal anybody.
@@popsy5676 amen!
he was diagnosed...he recovered. circumstances bring out either the best in us or our demons that we may act upon. when you judge another then that makes you a sociopath, whether a sci diagnosis or not. DW is human and he is using his life to preach Jesus' Word.
@@teejah7785 i think it's because D.wood always pokes fun with AP .
We all have problems
What does God need with a spaceship?
Just a question to David (or Christians in general), how do you make sense of Old Testament (OT) ethics? I get it that the New Testament (NT) overrides the OT, but if God is ominscient then he cannot change his mind as he knows the future, why on earth would he be okay with all the horrible things we read in the OT?
The awful sin in the Old Testament is what people chose to do instead of following God, it’s in there to show us the deep disgusting sin people get into without following God, the 10 commandments , and needing a sacrifice /asheep at the time for forgiveness of these horrible sins.Then the New Testament shows Gods ever reaching love for the people of the world, starting with the Jew and extending to the whole world…how great is his love for us in that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us.
@@speaktruth9313 yeah except God is commanding a lot of the bad things
@@mattholt2451 in the beginning he made everything good. The people messed it up ,they wanted kings. Basically he would bend to their wishes of having a king etc etc and then he would have to teach them a lesson ,deal with their horrific wars ,cause they wanted their own way.
@@speaktruth9313 what are you on about? Look I get it some people did bad things on their own, but God also did bad stuff too
@substance is that how YOU make sense of it?
It seems not a good idea to invite muslime for your discussions. Debates yes, but no casual talk
The bible also endorses sex slavery.
Source?
give us the verse
So it is not the first time Muhammad speaks about donkeys in connotation with women
1:24:15
He does not say rape. He say just "forced sex". LOL
And all you need is to pay fine 😆. Not a big deal for rich person !!!
Forced sex is the same as rape
@Max Lightning I know that but he is trying to use nicer words.
If he said you just just pay fine if you rape your slave that might sound worse to his audience
@@killermoon635 well he doesn’t wanna get demonetized. And if the slave is raped, she goes free
Farid is a joke but he seems more willing to engage, at least. Doesn't mean much because he's an idiot but still
You see!! AP is Christian he gave up vaping and weed!! You see fake Atheist!! It makes me so mad!!!
You have become a live streamer instead of a RUclipsr
Then ISIS was hostile to SHIA
Amazing, but not surprising with Islam.
Imagine how stupid muta is , an woman can have several Marriage deals the same day..
Mut'ah (temporary marriage) is haram, only Shias do it.
"'Ali b. AbiTalib reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) prohibited on the Day of Khaibar the contracting of temporary marriage with women and the eating of the flesh of domestic asses." - Sahih Muslim 1407a