Closing the holes won't solve the problem. The shacks where they are staying must be demolished and all those found there be illegally in the country be deported!!
People who look like you and me will say you are crazy and a clever black. But you are right, illegal foreigners are a leak in our tax budget and GDP, Pakistanis making counterfeit products and the money is not going back to the economy
@angrysocialjusticewarrior were they sent & equipped by "those countries" ? Criminals are Criminals all over the world, their loyalty doesn't lie with any state but with their selfish agendas. No one needs Criminals in their midst foreign or local, they need to be done away with where they are!
These specialized task team guys are the guys who recently competed in the international SWAT competition in UAE earlier this year. They took top stop for Africa and finished 8th for global. They finished ahead of the US SWAT division. They're an extremely dangerous bunch who destroy any and all criminal syndicates they're deployed to track down within South African borders.
@@Andrew-cg8os SA has never been the best. The 8th position is an official ranking, the 'best in the world" is merely a personal ranking based on skin colour, as was the trend during the era where you think they were the best.
Because the elections are coming & he needs their votes, cause he knows that south africans are sick & tired of the Anc rot & corruption and wont vote for them again
thats what the EFF was celebrating on weekend 🤣 the next thing you gonna hear from that cult called the EFF is crime has no nationality mxm black SAcn so dumb
I'm surprised that SAPS is fighting the zama zamas because our government favors foreign nationals better. We complain about how much these people are destroying our youth in the country and country and committing heinous crimes. Our President and the ANC keep quiet because their children and relatives are safe. The Minister of Home Mafias has lost the battle to foreign nationals. Kubuhlungu kodwa.
I feel like thy use foreigners for cheap labour haven't you seen Ramaphosa talking abt foreigners 😔he doesn't . police are corrupte too much imagine thy will talk that Gold and sell it
The fact that you have criminals firing shots off at the police already tell you you have a much bigger problem than what you anticipated These zama clowns are taking the saps for a poes
Right under Langlaagte Police Station nose,for crying out aloud get in the Bulldozer and start vlosing the damn holes,stop playing with the Zama Zamas.
Our beloved brothers and sisters In the force ain't got power to fight this criminals,it is so embarrassing to see a police brother or sister running away while facing a criminal 😔😞
Its a country full of 40+ million people. With that many people, obviously there will always be something bad happening somewhere in the country. Its statistically impossible in any country for 40 million people to all be perfectly law abiding citizens at all times.
The problem is those arrested will soon be granted free,free,free bail and resume with their illegal activities.Is the task team going to close all illegal minings or just to scare them for now because the residents complained?.I am not convinced yet.
Not necesarily. Bail is granted when you the suspect is not arrested for a serious crime (murder, r8pe, heist, etc) and you also have to NOT be a flight risk (having money and passports, or being a foreign national).
Its not SAPS its our BEST CONSTITUTION IN THE WORLD GIVING CRIMINALS POWER OVER SAPS OR DO YOU WANT SAPS TO SHOOT THAN ITS AGAIN MARIKANA SAPS TO BLAME
@@modisemakokwe4256 I am very much aware no matter how much the police can do their work,the justice system itself has many pockets and sometimes police are the ones to blame.Criminals have more constitutional rights instead of victims of crimes and the ruling party is not prepared to review these laws or what they call section 1,2,3 we e.t.c
@@modisemakokwe4256 HURTING NAKED TRUTH... police were ripped off their duty power. According to law they should just stand still and watch .... if it should be, they should be the ones killed instead "BUT NEVER EVER USE" a gun to a heartless criminal, instead they are they ones who should take a bullet or axed to death.... The country we are citizens to💔💔💔
@@ckoriablack you just as stupid do you know who general Zulu is, first go find out if it's a he or she, then go find out what is the special task force and why you need to be an operator to command them before you come with your stupid black born corrupting and stealing blood
The zama zamas must know that they can scare off the normal police,but task force guys are not to be played with, those guys are really bad ass,them and niu are fearless, incorruptible, highly trained skilled individuals,I really respect them and NIU, I was gonna put try,but the problem is that they are bullies and murderers some of them whereas niu and stf are disciplined and do a clean job,so let me give a friendly warning to the Basotho zama zamas throughout SA,even our police call niu and stf, they're our very last resort when all has failed,so if u value ur lives u have 2options when dealing with niu and stf,RUN or SURRender
Problem is that, Task Force will not be called, since the ranks who are suppose to call it, many of them know EXACTLY why Zama Zamas are here.... We are citizens placed with web, they act as if they want to stop them when they actually know they are fooling us. It's like we will just talk and talk but the operation will go on.
This is a much bigger problem than authorities realise, these "zama-zamas" have colonised almost every old mine on the entire old witwatersrand, between Springs and Krugersdorp. Thousands now live underground in this area.
I am from this very community, been in china for almost 6 years, this country needs leadership such as Xi the president of China. no time for shit attitude, thats why China is moving forward.
So many of these problems could have been avoided. The ANC focused on filling their pockets, than maintaining the country. In-flask of foreign nationals contributed to these problems. However in all I hope this task force brings results and control.
Also I blame our government not controlling mining , tomorrow ir will be Nigerians who doing what ever they want here ,our town is dirty bc of them ,our own government are quiet again
In all honesty, it is the failure of Gwede Mantashe. And when I say Gwede, I am not referring to him as a person but his Department of Mineral Resources and Energy. DMRE failure has led this crisis to be Bheki Cele's crisis. With every permit to mine issued, the are funds set aside for mine closure. I understand that they given to the DMRE. If that is true, we shouldn't be having these issues even if those mine owners ran away as those funds would've been given to government. We can't blame Bheki Cele. It is Gwede and Department of Hone Affairs.
Now we are pro active.... Not reactive.... But get intelligence to find out who are the masterminds and there must be a place where they have a ops command to operate these mines..... We doing something now....
Actually all foreigners think that they have us in control and we can’t do anything to them. Look how heavily armed they are🤷🏾♂️. It’s not only Basotho you can think of Sunyside Nigerian, Mozambiquans in Mpumalanga and so on.
My question is, there's international mining companies who predominantly own the bigger chunk of these mining operations. Why haven't they done something about this? The same companies have hired private militias in war torn African countries to protect their operations. They helped massacre war/insurgents criminals in the DRC diamond mines. My family's civil engineering company got a contract in Cabo Delgado to do some work on a new airport. Total Energies & BP are part of that pact & they came with the protection of these militias & their national soldiers, we walked during the conflict & you'd think there's no war outside the perimeter of that area. Something is weird about this saga, i believe this is a tiny problem in the hands of these Western companies & Zama Zamas are like ants in the eyes of Anglo American & LONMIN. When they had a problem in Marikana it took a phone call & 50 people died. Why haven't they made those phone calls 🤷🏽♂️ I'm not protecting the Zama Zamas, all im saying is this whole thing feels like conspiracy
These are Lesotho nationals, the same people the big companies used to employ on contract basis, who now don't have jobs since the gold price dropped in the 1980's. They are miners by trade, taught in the same mines they now plunder.
The problem our government waited for too long to deal with this matter, these people are not even South Africans and they have been terrorizing communities and nothing have been done, only after the Zama Zamas raped those girls at an old mine then government took the matter serious, too late to win this fight.
Lol guys, taking the required action would mess up the income of people who are supposed to fight these guys that’s why the appropriate response hasn’t been made When it was covid they didn’t waste time ensuring there was police and army presence, but for this only a handful of responders? Always follow the money and you’ll find the answers 😂
Those with mining permits are the ones buying the gold. No risk, no pension contributions, no legal matters to adhere to. A zama zama can't export without permit. That's where the law needs to focus on but they won't because it's people (companies) with power and influence.
To stop this, police must first arrest commits of of the squatter camps bcoz they ar the one who are giving this people a place to work or build their little factory, bcoz they are also getting money from this zamazamas, start there and u will c the difference,struu
I dont understand not being in this area but this people are going underground and risking their lives and they not actually robbing or housebreaking.what is the issue?
The ANC is the custodian of that legacy, but not only that, they are wort than the Apartheid government in many ways... They never even built new varsities - just renaming and renaming and pocketing tender moola left right and center and border control is terribly poor and this is a direct result of poor border control and home affairs corruption over the last two or so decades.
@@noziphohlongwane9615 Just like a fire is long gone ashes remain Nozipho. The media brands Zama Zamas as criminals when in actual fact the real criminals are the global mining giants who pillage South Africa of it's resources and leaves nothing behind. There are always two sides to a story.
@@soulstalgiarecords77740 You are right there is alot that they could have improved and expanded on. But the truth of the matter is that these problems arise when the majority of the population have very little and the minority control the means of production, resources and have much more than others.
Police should apply more power if these criminals retaliate. These foreigners are disrespectful. It's not Lesotho here
😂Are you Zulu?
This is our land Lesotho we will die here and we won't die alone, bring our land back
South African police and soldiers must stand up and wakeup to protect their country and law abiding citizens
It will never happen...money talks each SAPS Have their price they can do anything for money
SAPS are corrupt cowards, all they are good for is certifying documents.
At some point the people are powerless unless they vote in a party that actually brings function to civil service
Who is buying that gold from the Zama zamas obvious the big respected people and we can't do nothing to stop them
Closing the holes won't solve the problem. The shacks where they are staying must be demolished and all those found there be illegally in the country be deported!!
Tear gas
I fully agree.
Has Home Affairs closed down? 🙄
And arrest the street commits of the squatter camps and u will c
Closing off the holes whilst they are inside mean they are killing them
this is EFF policy in full swing,borderless south africa
People who look like you and me will say you are crazy and a clever black. But you are right, illegal foreigners are a leak in our tax budget and GDP, Pakistanis making counterfeit products and the money is not going back to the economy
That's why Malema can't be a president here . Otherwise we doomed as a country
A conscious man and a patriot can never support EFF .
Bheki Cele & SAPS only acts when there’s media🥲🇿🇦
SAPS must fight fire with fire. We can't be held ransom by the people who wouldn't do this in their countries!
S A P S are afraid of Zama zamas these people are embarrassing South Africa.
Don't worry, when borders are open then you'll see the real problem.
They have realised drugs have finish our youth nothing leaved
Also notice how very silent those countries are in this incident.
@angrysocialjusticewarrior were they sent & equipped by "those countries" ?
Criminals are Criminals all over the world, their loyalty doesn't lie with any state but with their selfish agendas.
No one needs Criminals in their midst foreign or local, they need to be done away with where they are!
ANC THEY KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT ZAMA ZAMAS
Excepting how to deal with them
Yes
It's about time. This is our home!!
May God strengthen SA.
Why didn't they take those that they caught and ask them to show them all their entrance holes?
These specialized task team guys are the guys who recently competed in the international SWAT competition in UAE earlier this year. They took top stop for Africa and finished 8th for global. They finished ahead of the US SWAT division. They're an extremely dangerous bunch who destroy any and all criminal syndicates they're deployed to track down within South African borders.
Those gents don’t play games
8th is terrible we were best in the world boss now we 8th kuk
@@Andrew-cg8os SA has never been the best. The 8th position is an official ranking, the 'best in the world" is merely a personal ranking based on skin colour, as was the trend during the era where you think they were the best.
@@angrysocialjusticewarrior dellusional
@@angrysocialjusticewarriortell it like it is
Why must these foreigners do as they please in SA? Wow, as early as 2010 why isn't Ramaphosa getting rid of them?
His silence says a lot
Good question 🤷🏻♀️
Because the elections are coming & he needs their votes, cause he knows that south africans are sick & tired of the Anc rot & corruption and wont vote for them again
thats what the EFF was celebrating on weekend 🤣 the next thing you gonna hear from that cult called the EFF is crime has no nationality mxm black SAcn so dumb
They're ANC and EFF voters. Henceforth their punishment is minimal, as compared to that of South Africans.
These informal settlements must be demolished!
Agree with you it must be demolished bcoz some of them harbor this criminals 🤨🤬
I'm surprised that SAPS is fighting the zama zamas because our government favors foreign nationals better. We complain about how much these people are destroying our youth in the country and country and committing heinous crimes. Our President and the ANC keep quiet because their children and relatives are safe. The Minister of Home Mafias has lost the battle to foreign nationals. Kubuhlungu kodwa.
It right to overthrow this government because they're 2 comfortable . Government have to be scared of people not people scaring the government.
I feel like thy use foreigners for cheap labour haven't you seen Ramaphosa talking abt foreigners 😔he doesn't . police are corrupte too much imagine thy will talk that Gold and sell it
👍🍻👍
We are xenophobic when we complain
The fact that you have criminals firing shots off at the police already tell you you have a much bigger problem than what you anticipated
These zama clowns are taking the saps for a poes
They don't do the same in their countries but want to play hero here...
Saps get cold drinks from zama zamas what do you expect
Right under Langlaagte Police Station nose,for crying out aloud get in the Bulldozer and start vlosing the damn holes,stop playing with the Zama Zamas.
So operation Dudula was right all along...
anc government will never move zama zamas by a millimeter
They are hungry 1 ,2 there are not working alone,3 police are involved, 4 politicians are buyers of whatever they are mining, 5 THERE ARE NO JOBS
Don't we have drones? Really??
They do...they were using them
South Africa is armed to the core in case you don't know, they are just not serious about getting rid of these guys
@@lebogangchiloane7251
TRUE, they just don't want to
We told them about illegal foreigners....
Obvious thy want to collect Gold mos 😂😂
Our beloved brothers and sisters In the force ain't got power to fight this criminals,it is so embarrassing to see a police brother or sister running away while facing a criminal 😔😞
Ye dear Zama zamas are belongs to ANC ,our brother and sister are just the to die 😭💔
What's going in this country Maan? Elke dag,there's kak happening.
Its a country full of 40+ million people. With that many people, obviously there will always be something bad happening somewhere in the country. Its statistically impossible in any country for 40 million people to all be perfectly law abiding citizens at all times.
Is there any south African digging in their country?
The problem is those arrested will soon be granted free,free,free bail and resume with their illegal activities.Is the task team going to close all illegal minings or just to scare them for now because the residents complained?.I am not convinced yet.
Not necesarily. Bail is granted when you the suspect is not arrested for a serious crime (murder, r8pe, heist, etc) and you also have to NOT be a flight risk (having money and passports, or being a foreign national).
Its not SAPS its our BEST CONSTITUTION IN THE WORLD GIVING CRIMINALS POWER OVER SAPS OR DO YOU WANT SAPS TO SHOOT THAN ITS AGAIN MARIKANA SAPS TO BLAME
@@modisemakokwe4256 I am very much aware no matter how much the police can do their work,the justice system itself has many pockets and sometimes police are the ones to blame.Criminals have more constitutional rights instead of victims of crimes and the ruling party is not prepared to review these laws or what they call section 1,2,3 we e.t.c
@@modisemakokwe4256 HURTING NAKED TRUTH...
police were ripped off their duty power. According to law they should just stand still and watch .... if it should be, they should be the ones killed instead "BUT NEVER EVER USE" a gun to a heartless criminal, instead they are they ones who should take a bullet or axed to death....
The country we are citizens to💔💔💔
Zama zamas are ANC ,
😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳🥺🥺🥺are we stealing from our own country 🤬🤬🤬🤬
Leak deadly gas into the holes
It'll never happen because of human rights
Is general Zulu a qualified and competent special task force operator or is she another bee post holder
R u qualified to ask questions or some pink person drunk on verkrampte branawyn?
Anc
As unqualified as most apartheid officials, she's just as aggressive that is why he got the position
@@ckoriablack you just as stupid do you know who general Zulu is, first go find out if it's a he or she, then go find out what is the special task force and why you need to be an operator to command them before you come with your stupid black born corrupting and stealing blood
@@ckoriablackclown she's a women not a man last time I looked
Langlagte police knows each and every holes as they collect money from zama zamas 😢
Too many
Aviwe must go to gym, that heavy breathing just for walking meters
Wena sewuphihliza ngomlomo manje...
Acting late is the governments style😂😂😂when all tarred roads are gravel,then they'll maybe act.
Not even South Africans fight back and disregard SAPS like that
The zama zamas must know that they can scare off the normal police,but task force guys are not to be played with, those guys are really bad ass,them and niu are fearless, incorruptible, highly trained skilled individuals,I really respect them and NIU, I was gonna put try,but the problem is that they are bullies and murderers some of them whereas niu and stf are disciplined and do a clean job,so let me give a friendly warning to the Basotho zama zamas throughout SA,even our police call niu and stf, they're our very last resort when all has failed,so if u value ur lives u have 2options when dealing with niu and stf,RUN or SURRender
Problem is that, Task Force will not be called, since the ranks who are suppose to call it, many of them know EXACTLY why Zama Zamas are here....
We are citizens placed with web, they act as if they want to stop them when they actually know they are fooling us.
It's like we will just talk and talk but the operation will go on.
This is a much bigger problem than authorities realise, these "zama-zamas" have colonised almost every old mine on the entire old witwatersrand, between Springs and Krugersdorp.
Thousands now live underground in this area.
Free State as well
@@nhlanhlaradebe8 🍻👍🇿🇦
Maybe they'll listen to people warming them instead of calling us xenophobic. Zama zamas should be treated as terrorists
When are we going to declare these people terrorists?
Sakina done a great job this morn well done to her Cuase bekkie did not even go into zamompilo when he was ast hats off to u sakina
I'm wondering, who is the buyer of this gold, probably there's a middle man🤔
South african is the only country in the world that you don't need money, visa, work, And ID Docs to Enter tru to either take or offer cheap Labour 🤞
Power ✊ to the people 🇿🇦
I am from this very community, been in china for almost 6 years, this country needs leadership such as Xi the president of China. no time for shit attitude, thats why China is moving forward.
We don't need to be like China.
Not with da and helen suzman taking government to court at every turn
@kylejohnson, if I want to have citizenship in China, especially in the rural areas, how far difficult is the process?
So your solution is giving up democracy? No thanks, there are easier ways to solve the issue. Namely, voting out the ANC next year
@@CrackerBarrelKid551 Democracy?
In South Africa?
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Mina bengathanda kwazi kuthi sebeyizamile lento bayizamayo bayidayisa njn ngoba aikhosemthethweni
It's those Zama Zama's the police were "chilling" with, on the morning reporting...
Why aren’t our Task Force issued NVG nods to own the night?
Where is Mawela the police I trust?
Stf must not arrest but just make sure no one will ever go back there
So many of these problems could have been avoided. The ANC focused on filling their pockets, than maintaining the country. In-flask of foreign nationals contributed to these problems. However in all I hope this task force brings results and control.
Also I blame our government not controlling mining , tomorrow ir will be Nigerians who doing what ever they want here ,our town is dirty bc of them ,our own government are quiet again
Treason 😢, subotage all they need to be kept long time
@ecna why don't you guys broadcast live on RUclips? Can't you ?
Also I blame our government not controlling mining
Siyabonga finely
In all honesty, it is the failure of Gwede Mantashe. And when I say Gwede, I am not referring to him as a person but his Department of Mineral Resources and Energy. DMRE failure has led this crisis to be Bheki Cele's crisis.
With every permit to mine issued, the are funds set aside for mine closure. I understand that they given to the DMRE. If that is true, we shouldn't be having these issues even if those mine owners ran away as those funds would've been given to government.
We can't blame Bheki Cele. It is Gwede and Department of Hone Affairs.
Zama Zama's on top
Now we are pro active.... Not reactive.... But get intelligence to find out who are the masterminds and there must be a place where they have a ops command to operate these mines..... We doing something now....
Marshal law should be implemented against zama zamas
Send in security companies.
With only tonfas
Not so long ago president Lesotho said SA to return them to be dealt with..when ?
This will boost ready mix concrete....😂😂
Closing holes won't stop this
Why not close the holes with concrete it might work
They are miners. They can dig concrete as easily as rock
Malema's illegals.
Ancs illegals Malema is not the president, that same gold is bought by your masters so this thing will never go anywhere
Aviwe is scared shame
We need sharia law in this country
Where is that James killu and EFF OPEN BORDERS PARTY HUH
What is a zama zama?
Actually all foreigners think that they have us in control and we can’t do anything to them. Look how heavily armed they are🤷🏾♂️. It’s not only Basotho you can think of Sunyside Nigerian, Mozambiquans in Mpumalanga and so on.
My question is, there's international mining companies who predominantly own the bigger chunk of these mining operations. Why haven't they done something about this? The same companies have hired private militias in war torn African countries to protect their operations. They helped massacre war/insurgents criminals in the DRC diamond mines. My family's civil engineering company got a contract in Cabo Delgado to do some work on a new airport. Total Energies & BP are part of that pact & they came with the protection of these militias & their national soldiers, we walked during the conflict & you'd think there's no war outside the perimeter of that area. Something is weird about this saga, i believe this is a tiny problem in the hands of these Western companies & Zama Zamas are like ants in the eyes of Anglo American & LONMIN. When they had a problem in Marikana it took a phone call & 50 people died. Why haven't they made those phone calls 🤷🏽♂️ I'm not protecting the Zama Zamas, all im saying is this whole thing feels like conspiracy
These are Lesotho nationals, the same people the big companies used to employ on contract basis, who now don't have jobs since the gold price dropped in the 1980's.
They are miners by trade, taught in the same mines they now plunder.
How are they going to come out if the holes are being closed 😮?
The problem our government waited for too long to deal with this matter, these people are not even South Africans and they have been terrorizing communities and nothing have been done, only after the Zama Zamas raped those girls at an old mine then government took the matter serious, too late to win this fight.
Even with that one they did nothing....it was just ENO Steam just like festive excitement then fire crack are silent again in 2 weeks time.
Limkile ilizwe madoda
it won't end now
I thought you guys wants one Africa open borders but you are complaining.
Malema is the cause of everything squatter,zama zama bc he called them brother and sisters bc he is from zim
Lol guys, taking the required action would mess up the income of people who are supposed to fight these guys that’s why the appropriate response hasn’t been made
When it was covid they didn’t waste time ensuring there was police and army presence, but for this only a handful of responders?
Always follow the money and you’ll find the answers 😂
Who is buying the gold they dig up??
Those with mining permits are the ones buying the gold. No risk, no pension contributions, no legal matters to adhere to. A zama zama can't export without permit. That's where the law needs to focus on but they won't because it's people (companies) with power and influence.
@@johannesscandley9910 ...the gold also goes across the border to Mozambique and then China.....
Casual conversation?
Labesuthu bayasijwayela crc basuka lena eLisutu bazodubulana lapha
Akubona bodwa abesuthu,kunabanye abadla nabo, nabafwe2 bakhona bangama security ezama zama,kuzolimala abantu ngiyanitshena ngoba baningi abadlayo
Likhaitseli tsaka please eyang hae hofelile ka li Zama zama
Hao so fele, saps is incompetent, this is just a show nje.
Now we will hear bail so wht used to arrest them
Only 5 pple for bail the rest thy bribe ..
Thats our best constitution to you
To stop this, police must first arrest commits of of the squatter camps bcoz they ar the one who are giving this people a place to work or build their little factory, bcoz they are also getting money from this zamazamas, start there and u will c the difference,struu
TLB stands for Tractor loader backhoe
Ordinary people are stubborn creatures on earth,,,,,,start from those pple who were beaten up on the free way
We don't behave at all
So they are still people underground
Yet someone want to open boarders
Special task force don't play
Who is Zama Zama.
Illegal miners.
I want to know what Lesotho government saying about this ,so means all Lesotho must go home bc they doing what they want here
tractor loader backerhoe
So they are going in with camera's and lights...😂😂😂😂😂 this is a joke.
...flamethrower anyone..??
If you find Gold thy u must give it to who 😂😂😂south Africa
General zulu got his stf from looking after goats😂😂😂😂
Saps doesn't love n like this sa
I dont understand not being in this area but this people are going underground and risking their lives and they not actually robbing or housebreaking.what is the issue?
👨🏿💻🍿 ANC BANANA REPUBLIC
banana republic
Anc
Eff is ruling the country 😂😂😂😂😂😂 you can fart if you like
Legacy of apartheid
The ANC is the custodian of that legacy, but not only that, they are wort than the Apartheid government in many ways... They never even built new varsities - just renaming and renaming and pocketing tender moola left right and center and border control is terribly poor and this is a direct result of poor border control and home affairs corruption over the last two or so decades.
Apartheid is long gone, thirty years to be exact.
@@noziphohlongwane9615 Just like a fire is long gone ashes remain Nozipho. The media brands Zama Zamas as criminals when in actual fact the real criminals are the global mining giants who pillage South Africa of it's resources and leaves nothing behind. There are always two sides to a story.
@@soulstalgiarecords77740 You are right there is alot that they could have improved and expanded on. But the truth of the matter is that these problems arise when the majority of the population have very little and the minority control the means of production, resources and have much more than others.
@@innocentnzuza3749 that means we are zama zamas because we don't have enough.
Njoka anc created this
Not so long ago president Lesotho said SA to return them to be dealt with..when ?