I did get the LG C1 OLED a couple years ago because of your reviews. I have never felt better since owning one. OLED is my most favourite Screen Technology.
You can do as many sponsored videos as you want (if they're not done in bad taste) if that means you can continue offering us free, excellent and in depth reviews.
It's kinda crazy how a rather clearly superior solution such as this (per-frame dynamic tone mapping) hasn't been done before. The only issue I can see though is that if in one scene a bright object appears/disappears it's going to look like an ABL kicks in due to the EOTF changing
IMO the whole way HDR works is utterly unsuitable for consumer use. I hope in the future it will get a lot more plug and play with standardized communication between devices so that the whole manual setup and changing of tonemapping settings becomes a thing of the past, and back to working the way SDR did where you decide your own brightness instead of the content deciding it for you. I mean, HDR movies are all made to be viewed in a dark room, so when the consumer in their bright livingroom opens netflix to watch a movie, they are left with a terrible experience. Sure there may be some workarounds on some TVs to make it viewable, but that messes up the tonemapping and you can't expect your average person to fiddle with the settings every day.
@@JorisKeijser It's exactly what bothers me about HDR. Sometimes it was so dark I had to "sail the high seas" for the bluray SDR versions which preserved a lot more detail and were overall brighter, highlights aside.
It was in a german one, didn't do to well, but I wouldn't read too much into that, probably had a few updates after that , All these TVs are good and each adds their own flavour , like see the adjustments you can make here , plus the ambilights, which many people like . Never seen it in person, but as OLED screens get brighter, categorically ir has to reduce eye strain when watching in a dark room . Eyes do not enjoy huge dynamic range between bright and pitch black - No one enjoys cars coming at you on full beam
They don't release until far too late in the year. The 909 has only been out in the UK a few weeks and the 959 flagship, which is what the shootout is about, is STILL not out. It's nearly December for crying out loud. The 959 is essentially the first 2025 TV.
Because they are shitty😂 One Problem is that the TV know when you put a test picture on and reach too 1600 nits(mla Version 909) and in real content you have only 1100 Blacks are a lil bit Grey. In Germany WE have a ytber who Tested every Phillips OLED.
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"to help you noobs aim better" 🤣 I love it Vinny 😂👍
Agreed. I got mine a year ago for a reasonable price, two weeks later disappeared from webshops, only models left on the market were 40% more expensive. I use it as a monitor and I very much notice the pixel shifting that I would turn off if it would be possible. But I won't have the funds to upgrade to this one, unfortunately.
Didn't the Panasonic OLEDs also do the dynamic tone mapping right? IIRC they also do not try to revision the image by over brightening everything, they just try to tone map the bright details down to fit the TV's capabilities. There is basically no reason to ever disable it.
i wasn't impressed by qdOLED when shopping for monitors. QD panels seem to glow a little, reducing the impressive black details compared to normal OLED.
@@RadblockerAddict3000 It's more grey like a plasma unless you have it in direct sunlight. I have overhead lights and it's almost pitch black that I don't care, and when I have lights off which you should be doing with an OLED it's the same. The colour luminance means colours get way brighter whereas the on WOLED it's the "white" that gets bright, washing out the colours which people often confuse for "accurate" when it's a panel limitation.
@@RadblockerAddict3000 They are both OLED, and both have infinite contrast. I'm literally staring at a QD monitor 321UPX, WOLED TV C1 and a Samsung phone. They're all pitch black, again, with overhead lights. You're impression was based on store lightning which I can't blame you, but yeah buy what you like. QD is the better display, and that's not an opinion just watch HDTVTest review on the C4.
Is this higher spec than the 909? I was about to pull the trigger on buying the 909 believing it was mainly the sound and stand arrangement that was different not picture settings.
Could someone please explain HDR tone mapping on Sony TV's for gaming? I've seen people who claim it should be turned off to simulate HGIG while others claim it must be turned back to gradation preferred once the HDR is set up in the console. Nobody seems to be too sure about either way of doing it so it would be nice to get a sure answer.
The year is 2053. Cars can fly. Robots do your laundry and take out your trash for you. The Bravia 29 is on sale. Vincent: "Alright guys, my Bravia 9 review is coming soon!"
Abi merhaba 2017 model 4k lg tv var hd filimlerde filim karanlık 1080p daha aydınlık. Hdr performansı ve dolbyvision iyi olan bir tv önerin varmı 65 inç ve üzeri.
can you do a test on the lg 32gs95ue or uv with best setting for gaming the new oled monitors from lg dont seem tp look as good as their tv's so i was wondering if there was a way to fix that
Bad part is the panel was replaced by lg at the 1 month point bc a giant thumbprint size splotches of dead pixels appeared on the right hand,outside edge of the screen.Now I have at least 50 dead pixels all around the outside edges.5 years doesn't seem long enough lifespan on a $3000 tv.
I have this TV myself. It's the brother of the 808 model which differs very little. This is the brother of the 808 model which differs very little. the 808 model has twice as many reviews.
One thing that is really bothering me on big OLEDs is the judder. It's impossible to watch high contrast panning footage without it looking horrible. I rather see artifacts than judder.
@@PSYCHOV3N0M LG blows and Sony is 👑. Bravia 9 is the best TV of 2024 and A95L is still the best OLED, QD-OLED or otherwise, two years in a row. Cope! 🤣😂🤣😂
My problem with woled (and ive had 2) at high luminance the colour washes out and ruins the image. How is this not talked about more, it literally destroys the colour accuracy yet this common acenario is not factored in to test results!? I guess if youre happy to set your ceiling brightness to 500 nits youre okay but who in their right mind does that when hdr commonly sits in a 1000nits range! Rant over
Just enjoy what you have. You liked it enough to buy it didn’t you? Don’t worry about comparing it to other things. Otherwise you’ll never enjoy what you have because there I’ll always be newer things coming out.
Still waiting for a TV that has: QD-OLED, Dolby Vision, HDR10+, HDR10+ Active, IMAX Enhanced, Cinemaphile picture quality. It's already embarrassing enough that Sony and Panasonic OLED models didn't win in 2024 shootouts.
Man if you want speak about sun clipping do that on the true video with true sun ...and the best thing is to record something by self because you know then how it should looks. ;)
@curtisbme: As per the RUclips description, this is merely a first-look video based on a visit to Philips TV's R&D centre in Ghent, Belgium, not a full review. And when was the last time you saw us do a TV review under 6 minutes? We didn't even say that this is a review in the title...
@@hdtvtest Your title expressly states that you have been able to determine that it is "A 𝗥𝗮𝗿𝗲 OLED TV with Dynamic Tone Mapping & HGiG Done Right!" indicating you have reviewed it as you are making a factual statement. It does not indicate that this is actually a commercial.
Philips is one of the crap product of oled tv… my 9002 was absolutely garbage on so many points ! Soooo much bugs that were never fixed , Philips ? NEVER ! 👎
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I did get the LG C1 OLED a couple years ago because of your reviews. I have never felt better since owning one. OLED is my most favourite Screen Technology.
You can do as many sponsored videos as you want (if they're not done in bad taste) if that means you can continue offering us free, excellent and in depth reviews.
They must have consulted with you on all these features, your a legend I might check it out, don’t tell my wife.
You're or you are.
NOT your.
It's kinda crazy how a rather clearly superior solution such as this (per-frame dynamic tone mapping) hasn't been done before. The only issue I can see though is that if in one scene a bright object appears/disappears it's going to look like an ABL kicks in due to the EOTF changing
IMO the whole way HDR works is utterly unsuitable for consumer use. I hope in the future it will get a lot more plug and play with standardized communication between devices so that the whole manual setup and changing of tonemapping settings becomes a thing of the past, and back to working the way SDR did where you decide your own brightness instead of the content deciding it for you. I mean, HDR movies are all made to be viewed in a dark room, so when the consumer in their bright livingroom opens netflix to watch a movie, they are left with a terrible experience. Sure there may be some workarounds on some TVs to make it viewable, but that messes up the tonemapping and you can't expect your average person to fiddle with the settings every day.
@@JorisKeijser It's exactly what bothers me about HDR. Sometimes it was so dark I had to "sail the high seas" for the bluray SDR versions which preserved a lot more detail and were overall brighter, highlights aside.
apple has been doing it for a while
How come a Phillips TV is never in the yearly shootout?
It was in a german one, didn't do to well, but I wouldn't read too much into that, probably had a few updates after that , All these TVs are good and each adds their own flavour , like see the adjustments you can make here , plus the ambilights, which many people like . Never seen it in person, but as OLED screens get brighter, categorically ir has to reduce eye strain when watching in a dark room . Eyes do not enjoy huge dynamic range between bright and pitch black - No one enjoys cars coming at you on full beam
They don't release until far too late in the year. The 909 has only been out in the UK a few weeks and the 959 flagship, which is what the shootout is about, is STILL not out. It's nearly December for crying out loud. The 959 is essentially the first 2025 TV.
Because Philips tv’s suck….
Because it won't do well and comes out late. Still good TV but it's simply not going to excel in a shootout.
Because they are shitty😂
One Problem is that the TV know when you put a test picture on and reach too 1600 nits(mla Version 909) and in real content you have only 1100
Blacks are a lil bit Grey. In Germany WE have a ytber who Tested every Phillips OLED.
"to help you noobs aim better" 🤣 I love it Vinny 😂👍
I’ve had my phillips OLED tv for 2 years now, very underrated brand
Agreed. I got mine a year ago for a reasonable price, two weeks later disappeared from webshops, only models left on the market were 40% more expensive. I use it as a monitor and I very much notice the pixel shifting that I would turn off if it would be possible. But I won't have the funds to upgrade to this one, unfortunately.
Didn't the Panasonic OLEDs also do the dynamic tone mapping right? IIRC they also do not try to revision the image by over brightening everything, they just try to tone map the bright details down to fit the TV's capabilities. There is basically no reason to ever disable it.
what I think is also good is that this is showing more brands are going to start picking up the MLA OLED panels for 2025
thank you philip . I know nerd have many question , just stay to uhd bt2020 relative and you are safe since its 709 relative friendly
tv backlight adapting to content ? Very good idea
Is the HDR Tonemapping Function in the menu also available in the 909 or exclusive for the 959 ?
I dream of buying 909 in 77" size, hopelly its good as this.
That's sick, waiting on when they do a QDOLED version.
i wasn't impressed by qdOLED when shopping for monitors. QD panels seem to glow a little, reducing the impressive black details compared to normal OLED.
@@RadblockerAddict3000 It's more grey like a plasma unless you have it in direct sunlight. I have overhead lights and it's almost pitch black that I don't care, and when I have lights off which you should be doing with an OLED it's the same. The colour luminance means colours get way brighter whereas the on WOLED it's the "white" that gets bright, washing out the colours which people often confuse for "accurate" when it's a panel limitation.
@@Accuaro i dunno, i feel like if you want the super impressive darks OLED is better from my visual comparisons.
@@RadblockerAddict3000 They are both OLED, and both have infinite contrast. I'm literally staring at a QD monitor 321UPX, WOLED TV C1 and a Samsung phone. They're all pitch black, again, with overhead lights.
You're impression was based on store lightning which I can't blame you, but yeah buy what you like.
QD is the better display, and that's not an opinion just watch HDTVTest review on the C4.
Best mini led 98 inches or above?
Is this higher spec than the 909? I was about to pull the trigger on buying the 909 believing it was mainly the sound and stand arrangement that was different not picture settings.
It's not that simple. The 959 has the latest and most advanced image processing.
Philips Wow
Sony, LG please adapt this
My first ever HD TV was a Philips ... around 2008 ?
Could someone please explain HDR tone mapping on Sony TV's for gaming? I've seen people who claim it should be turned off to simulate HGIG while others claim it must be turned back to gradation preferred once the HDR is set up in the console. Nobody seems to be too sure about either way of doing it so it would be nice to get a sure answer.
Phillips is always sneaky good
Is Philips back in the running then?
The year is 2053. Cars can fly. Robots do your laundry and take out your trash for you. The Bravia 29 is on sale.
Vincent: "Alright guys, my Bravia 9 review is coming soon!"
🤣🤣🤣
Abi merhaba 2017 model 4k lg tv var hd filimlerde filim karanlık 1080p daha aydınlık. Hdr performansı ve dolbyvision iyi olan bir tv önerin varmı 65 inç ve üzeri.
Is this available on the model down the 859?
can you do a test on the lg 32gs95ue or uv with best setting for gaming the new oled monitors from lg dont seem tp look as good as their tv's so i was wondering if there was a way to fix that
That edge enhancer looks like something Acerola would come up with.
Do you experience quite a lot dead pixels appearing, mainly near the edge/borders of your OLED TVs? Mainly the one you personally use for some time?
Yes my c9 has them all the way around.Is this fixed on newer panels?It is annoying.
Bad part is the panel was replaced by lg at the 1 month point bc a giant thumbprint size splotches of dead pixels appeared on the right hand,outside edge of the screen.Now I have at least 50 dead pixels all around the outside edges.5 years doesn't seem long enough lifespan on a $3000 tv.
@@michellehall222 that's my m ain worry with OLED TVs, what's the point of spending so much on a TV if it breaks down after a few years?
What do you think of the Phillips OLED 708, I can’t seem to find any review out there, would like to hear from you😢
I have this TV myself. It's the brother of the 808 model which differs very little. This is the brother of the 808 model which differs very little. the 808 model has twice as many reviews.
I love your glasses. Where do you get frames?
If he doesn't answer try taking a zoomed in screenshot from the video and try doing a picture search.
I have found products like that before.
They are Masunaga frames, from the world’s oldest glasses maker.
I have a question: are tonemapping off and HGIG the same thing?
This sounds better than Samsung
How would these do with ps5 pro gaming?
One thing that is really bothering me on big OLEDs is the judder. It's impossible to watch high contrast panning footage without it looking horrible. I rather see artifacts than judder.
I agree. Motion interpolation is the main feature I look for when buying a TV. I never disable it.
whats judder?
34 Days to 2025, I wonder if we will even get a Sony B9 review this year.
How about just writing the Modell in the title of the video?
Price ? In USA and sizes ?model choices
Not available in the USA sadly
I want an 83” QD-OLED with non glossy screen
The OLED909 has the same features. Compared to 959 it has only 1 processor and regular ambilight (4 sided) instead of ambilight plus (3 sided)
909 only has 3 sided unfortunately I have one and wish it had 4 sided
@@Trevski220the 909 has 4sided
@@Trevski220 my Oled 909 has 4 sites of Ambilight, i think you have a 809
@@Trevski220 If you have no bottom Ambilight then you have the 908, not 909, or you have the 909 and it's turned off in the settings.
@@faber80mt you are correct, My mistake I misread the original comment, I have the 809 with 3 sided ambilight. Sorry
Was that a Sinclair C5?
Why didn't you test the Tandem OLED displays in the new iPad Pro?
I'm getting one, 13". 1TB or 2TB. Already have the keyboard (:
Because Apple sucks?
@@baronsengir187 No, that's not the reason, something else maby?
@@lukabosnjak3829 It is not a TV?
@@baronsengir187vincent has tested multiple iPhones before
3:44 Noob friendly 360° No-Scope pwnage 🤣
Meh, it only exists in 65"... I want a 83 !
This is the next tv that I plan to get. Been waiting forever for it to arrive on the market since it was first announced many many months ago.
Better buy a other one
@@Uncle_Titus y
i bet cod 6 gamer will test these before tournament season
Vinnie, how come you never include philips oleds in your shoot-outs?
Why would the ultimate all-in-one tv not have all the catchup apps??
Oh Philips, forever 9.5 out of 10 ..
Phillips is up there with Sony and Panasonic.
You mean down there since Sony and Panasonic didn't win in 2024.
LG and Samsung are Top 2 in 2024.
🤣🤣🤣
@@PSYCHOV3N0M LG blows and Sony is 👑. Bravia 9 is the best TV of 2024 and A95L is still the best OLED, QD-OLED or otherwise, two years in a row. Cope! 🤣😂🤣😂
This was a lovely paid review.... 🎉
The fact that the flag ship phillips tv has only 3 sides of ambilight and unable to be wall mounted sucks. They are always overpriced tvs aswell.
why cant it be wall mounted? what makes you think that?
My problem with woled (and ive had 2) at high luminance the colour washes out and ruins the image. How is this not talked about more, it literally destroys the colour accuracy yet this common acenario is not factored in to test results!? I guess if youre happy to set your ceiling brightness to 500 nits youre okay but who in their right mind does that when hdr commonly sits in a 1000nits range! Rant over
Can you recommend settings for the Samsung S90D 55 please?
You are aware that Samsung S90D has a PANEL LOTTERY right???
You either get a W-OLED panel or a QD-OLED panel.
No way to tell outside of the box. 😑👎
carefull , there is 32 compressed and 48 uncompressed . Not clear if there is a winner with hdmi fiber optic cable
Bracia 9 review when?
Doesnt the Samsung OLEDs do this too? They offer "dynamic" tone mapping
I can't catch the name of the movie/scene... can anyone fill me in, please?
Pan.....released in 2015 👍
Thanks@@kydo1232
Thanks @@kydo1232
Samsung S95c has this. Or not the same?
quick question whats the best monitor for a high end pc?
It's like asking what's the best vehicle to drive.
The coming 45" 5120x2160 (hopefully 240hz) OLED by LG
Should I return C4 for B9 ??
Yes. 9 is higher number so it's better.
Just enjoy what you have.
You liked it enough to buy it didn’t you?
Don’t worry about comparing it to other things. Otherwise you’ll never enjoy what you have because there I’ll always be newer things coming out.
If you mean Bravia 9, then yes. Since it's better.
PS 5 Pro have 32 gigabit(((
Xbox sX 48 gbit
@@Albrts 40. Or is the new one 48?
@@Albrts 40
Ghent is a lovely place
To help you noobs aim better hahahaha .... Shots fired!
Sick TV. ❤️
Nice!
Still waiting for a TV that has:
QD-OLED, Dolby Vision, HDR10+, HDR10+ Active, IMAX Enhanced, Cinemaphile picture quality.
It's already embarrassing enough that Sony and Panasonic OLED models didn't win in 2024 shootouts.
I do not use Philips products in my country because there are very bad comments about authorized services.
Man if you want speak about sun clipping do that on the true video with true sun ...and the best thing is to record something by self because you know then how it should looks. ;)
Bro doing every review except bravia 9.
He has it, he's doing a really in depth review.
@@TheCrucialQI'm assuming the review is still 3 or 4 weeks away
Thats not footbal... it's soccer... 😂😂😂
Does it have any AI against wHooPie and Oprah. To disable
For £4000 it better do everything 😂😂😂rather get a G4
LG has NO direct competitor for the oled 959.
Bunch of noobs need to aim better
latency is as bad as the old LG Oleds before 2020
This is not a good look. You usually do great reviews but doing a review as a sponsored post is a serious credibility issue.
@curtisbme: As per the RUclips description, this is merely a first-look video based on a visit to Philips TV's R&D centre in Ghent, Belgium, not a full review.
And when was the last time you saw us do a TV review under 6 minutes? We didn't even say that this is a review in the title...
I love you @@hdtvtest
@@hdtvtest Your title expressly states that you have been able to determine that it is "A 𝗥𝗮𝗿𝗲 OLED TV with Dynamic Tone Mapping & HGiG Done Right!" indicating you have reviewed it as you are making a factual statement. It does not indicate that this is actually a commercial.
Philips is one of the crap product of oled tv… my 9002 was absolutely garbage on so many points ! Soooo much bugs that were never fixed , Philips ? NEVER ! 👎