I was in Savannah for vacation a while back, and my family was eating at a restaurant on the waterfront at night. One of us said "I wonder when the next ships coming." Lo and behold, a few seconds later, we can see the lights of a ship, even higher than we were on the second floor deck of this place.
Yes Savanna is BOOMING. Had a port tour with Peter Pearson of Outside Savannah the first week of Jan 23. He was a walking encyclopedia of how the port is growing and quickly becoming the largest port in the USA. The most telling stat to me was that 90% of the containers leaving LA/LB are empty while only 30% leaving Savannah don't contain goods Last year the TEUs of LA/LB and Savannah were roughly equal while Savannah is much more efficient and hasn't had a labor strike since 1968. If I were a young man, I'd move to Savannah and begin a career at the port or in logistics with the myriad companies relocating and building. Thanks Sal, love your insightful content!
Then why am I and a lot of other trucking companies NOT GETTING FREIGHT??? I only worked half a year this year. Our yard is empty since JULY. most drivers i been talking to including myself have only been getting One or TWO loads a week as compared to 5 and 6 in 2022. How is this not giving us more work. Also the prices to truck drivers is being pushed down to half what we was getting paid last year.
Moved most of our supply chain to Savannah from LA/LB when rates were insane, now intermodal rail prices are 3x and cfs are overloaded. I have started moving containers into Jacksonville with 2 new routes through Colombo. All that roro traffic is going to Jacksonville and is bringing tons of chassis availability. Something to note, the main container routes from asia that call savannah, all call Jacksonville
@@wgowshipping Thanks Sal! I've dealt with everything from this pandemic. I even had business cards printed with "Freight Hostage Negotiator" back in 2021. A few hundred containers later I'm due for a reprint. Was thinking CSI: Procurement Victim's Unit
The Port of Savannah is a powerful engine that attracts industry, technology, education and population to the region. These advances are present and expanding today. As a resident, I could not be more grateful for the vision our state government acted upon decades ago. You will see Brunswick expand significantly in the near future as the alternative to Savannah for specialized commodities. It is already the second busiest auto and rolling machine port today on the east coast (NY/NJ is first). Jacksonville, Brunswick and Savannah are all located inside a coastal string (Interstate 95) of 200 miles. This is immense potential for the region and the state of GA. 🇺🇸⚓️
We were in Savanah a couple of months ago. Saw several Container Ships moving up and down the river. There is work in progress to get the Containers in an out of the port. New work on Interstate 16 to allow the truck in and out of the area.
I have been delivering yachts up and down the east coast and Gulf 8:31 for 23 yrs. Watched the growth of Savannah’s port all that time. I agree the state and political subdivisions have done a tremendous job of facilitating the growth. But let’s not forget that the state of California and the political subdivisions basically chased the traffic out of their ports. Between truck rules and regulations, labor rules, taxes, lack of up dates to infrastructure California made it’s own bed. The state of Oregon and the ports of Portland and Vancouver did the same. You are correct in that I see container traffic in Houston, Mobile, Charleston,Norfolk, Brunswick etc. all on the rise. My hope is they don’t let the politicians do to them what the west coast ports let the governing bodies do to them.
The port is booming in business but let’s not forget that the truckers have to deal with the bullcrap. Long waits times to get in, long wait times to get container, long wait times to leave, waiting while the ports shuts down for lunch, waiting time while the ports shuts down for shift change, no chassis’, lack of machines to pick up empties off truckers chassis, lack of machines to drop loaded containers, the disrespect that the union port workers give to truckers(they literally yell and cuss you out), no appointment availability to return empty containers, thousands of dollars for demurrage….Cmon, if you gonna do some reporting shoot the real with the people
I have come to believe that California could foul up a butter sandwich. It looks like due to Cali's overreach on regulations and fees and such, that it makes more economic sense to sail more days and pay for the Panama Canal passage then going to LA/LB.
@@Loreal_North22 I wrote a post on Calif above. They have committed economic suicide, not coming back anytime soon. Eventually, things might get bad enough to bring in practical politicians, but probably a long ways away.
East coast ports are open. Eastern states still enforce the law, so shipments can safely transfer from ship to train/truck and move out to the country. Unlike in Commiefornia where the law is not enforced and criminals take whatever they wish from anything that gets out of port.
Back in the fabulous 80s there was a place on the river in Savannah to get a decent Philadelphia Cheesesteak. B.R. Dooley’s was the name I believe.....it was cool to see giant ships pass by just a few yards away!
One competitive advantage that LA/LB have had is the absolutely massive amount of warehousing capacity. I think the shift to Savannah, Jacksonville and the gulf will bring along with it an opportunity for warehousing. The risk of hurricanes will require any logistics hub to be established well inland. The I-81 corridor would be perfect but that interstate and rail corridor can't take the volume, primarily because of Virginia politics. The I-65 corridor still has a lot of potential land area for warehousing, especially south of Nashville. How is the rail infrastructure from the eastern ports to the areas between Birmingham and Nashville? The eastern ports don't operate in isolation. For the long term sustainability of the higher import volume, the other components need to be in place. On a side note, Savannah has come a long way since I was last there in 2010ish. It was almost all Ikea. Diversity is great.
Driving to Florida from the Northeast I usually just blow through Georgia. My only real concern is there are always a lot of speed traps there. I stopped off in Savannah for a day and was amazed that you can sit on the shore of the river and these sideways buildings go floating by. It was just after the Suez Ever Given and I was thinking how can these things possibly get moving up a lazy river that could not be that deep. I never had any idea that Savannah had the size infrastructure that could rival what they were taking into Long Beach. Good for them. I wonder if somebody's going to do a study with the new Panama Lanes just which ports on the Gulf and East Coast are going to have the largest percentages of increase as a result of that.
Sure glad you find the time to make these great videos Professor. I mean Chairman. I mean Captain. Yikes! Greetings and positive energy comin' atcha' from BC, Canada.
I don't see much RORO traffic coming to Brunswick anytime soon... Yes with the existing car carriers, and they are building another berth so they can have 4 ships in port at one time... Brunswick could expand.. There is/was room. But Politicians and Logistics will screw that up... Back in WW2, Brunswick built the most Liberty ships, turning out 1 a month they say.. and the old slipways are still there... But I don't see any indication of new intentions to expand..
Do you see a more targeted distribution system taking place? As an example, instead of dropping off 2,000 containers In NY/ NJ to be distributed on the EAST coast. Drop off 500 in New Orleans, 500 in Jacksonville, 500 in Savannah the rest in NY/NJ. One of the issues in LA/LB, at least in the past, was getting the containers out. I believe it was 2009 before the financial collapse, the LA/LB, port authority, stated it was running almost 30 days until your container off loaded and loaded to exit, truck or rail, they were that backed up.
Most ships that call at Savannah, also call at two to three other ports, whereas on the West Coast, nearly 80 to 100% of all containers from a ship are offloaded in LA or LB.
Appreciate the video! Very informative. When it comes to the ports there is always talks of handling more containers however there is NEVER a discussing of how the terminals upgrades their facility to also speed up time for the truckers brining in containers in and out of the terminal. Wait times are horrendous and there is such a lack of chassis for truckers that they wait hours just to obtain one then hours waiting in line to grab the container to leave! Would you be opposed to making a video about that aspect in which NO ONE discusses?
Can you go into detail what you means with the comment? I’m a trucker looking to relocate and work in savannah yet I’ve never been so any insight would be appreciated
@@tricallyourmama We just sold our place in the area due to the insane growth, BUT, the longevity factor for logistics and trucking is robust. The infrastructure improvements are vast with all connectors to US HWY 95. It's all about habitability and what you desire. We got tired of the projects and then being rear ended by an semi a year ago. The growth is too fast, and I know after coming from both Texas and Arizona what all this leads to, so we sold.
I am just not sure Shawn. The new engine standards, neo-Panamax ships and the continued ILWU/PMA renegotiation make this situation different than 2015. This shift from the West to East Coast has been going on for a while. Plus, the population is more centered on the south and southeast.
Hey Shawn! I’m a LA/LB trucker and I’m also looking at Savannah. It’s only getting worse for us truckers. All the silly regulations the port and cali puts on us are horrendous. I’m gonna head to the Georgia logistics summit to check it out. Hopefully we can link up and discuss our options
The LA/LB ports are trying to get rid of roto so they’ll force carriers to bring in their own chassis. Not sure when it’s happening but you’ll notice at MSK on the way out there is a stack of chassis that say “SALE” meaning it’s already in progress. It’s gonna happen across the board for all the terminals soon
@@tricallyourmama in the port of Charleston, the SCPA has bought their own chassis and I’d say that most local trucking companies have been leasing new chassis for some time now. It definitely reduces the turn time at the ports.
Hello Dr. Sal, Re; RORO shipping, would you know where RORO shipping (that is/was in Savnnah will) shift to? Brunswick? Jacksonville? Wherever it goes, I would worry about Roll On Roll Over.
The state of Georgia owns all of the ports used within the state. The costs of improvements, maintenance and upkeep and such does come from the state coffers and yes a portion of the State Taxes levied are used as such. But at the same time all of the ports/state place charges against any entity wishing to conduct business thru their jurisdiction thus producing revenue for the state. Also the local populations benefit from jobs produced with respect to the employment availability in those areas.
DOT apparently going to raise the bridge to allow bigger ships in. If the port needs something it's always right on time and plenty of budget. Meanwhile every road in and out of Savannah is 20 years behind in traffic mitigation. At this point I don't give a flying rip how well GPA does. Savannah doesn't need anymore growth, anymore trucks, anymore warehouses, or anymore new residents. Perpetual growth is not a plan.
In addition to what Savannah is currently doing, the Jasper Ocean terminal will be built on the South Carolina side of the river and is expected to up and running between 2035 and 2037. This will be approximately 10 miles south of Savannah. With the way the area is growing, I’ll be happy to retire someplace else, and I’m from Savannah.
Your channel is incredibly informative and I had never appreciated importance of shipping costs on economies, of the huge impact of using river and coastal traffic and the huge personal commitments of sailors, dock workers and pilots. Even rainfall effects on river levels! Thank you very much, from the UK.
Most people are unaware that just before the Cessation of the States, the Southern states were debt free. No one is debt free today. I see a resemblance in Ga's efforts to be profitable.
California is committing business suicide. AB-5, banning older trucks, impending all-electric trucks, port labor issues, and massive theft along the rail routes are all killers. AB-5 is a back door way to force unionization (higher costs), electric trucks limit driving range per many-hour charge, and nobody seems to know how to stop the theft. About the only way to move by truck is a battery big enough to get across the state line, and a diesel truck picks up from there. If they ban diesel locomotives, the only viable way to get trains across the mountains would be to hang overhead wire, at a cost of several billion dollars.
Hey Sal, how do you feel about the painting of Jesus at Sea being covered at Merchant Marine Academy? I don't know any atheists in a bad storm at sea, or the Lakes.
General W. T. Sherman saved Savannah from his torch as he thought it was the most beautiful place he had ever seen when he saw it for his first assignment after graduating West Point.
Talk unions my man. Ga can have all of the expansion in the world but be hamstrung by unions. What is the difference between Ca ports and Ga ports on the union side.
I was in Savannah for vacation a while back, and my family was eating at a restaurant on the waterfront at night. One of us said "I wonder when the next ships coming." Lo and behold, a few seconds later, we can see the lights of a ship, even higher than we were on the second floor deck of this place.
Yes Savanna is BOOMING. Had a port tour with Peter Pearson of Outside Savannah the first week of Jan 23. He was a walking encyclopedia of how the port is growing and quickly becoming the largest port in the USA. The most telling stat to me was that 90% of the containers leaving LA/LB are empty while only 30% leaving Savannah don't contain goods Last year the TEUs of LA/LB and Savannah were roughly equal while Savannah is much more efficient and hasn't had a labor strike since 1968. If I were a young man, I'd move to Savannah and begin a career at the port or in logistics with the myriad companies relocating and building. Thanks Sal, love your insightful content!
This is what I recommend to my students all the time!
Then why am I and a lot of other trucking companies NOT GETTING FREIGHT??? I only worked half a year this year. Our yard is empty since JULY. most drivers i been talking to including myself have only been getting One or TWO loads a week as compared to 5 and 6 in 2022. How is this not giving us more work. Also the prices to truck drivers is being pushed down to half what we was getting paid last year.
My father works for the Ga Port Authority, so it is nice to see you showcase Savannah.
Moved most of our supply chain to Savannah from LA/LB when rates were insane, now intermodal rail prices are 3x and cfs are overloaded.
I have started moving containers into Jacksonville with 2 new routes through Colombo. All that roro traffic is going to Jacksonville and is bringing tons of chassis availability.
Something to note, the main container routes from asia that call savannah, all call Jacksonville
Great insight!
is that Colombo Sri Lanka?
@@uditfonseka I think it is suppose to be Columbus.
@@uditfonseka yes, Colombo is a main departure port for South Asian (India etc) containers.
@@wgowshipping Thanks Sal! I've dealt with everything from this pandemic. I even had business cards printed with "Freight Hostage Negotiator" back in 2021. A few hundred containers later I'm due for a reprint. Was thinking CSI: Procurement Victim's Unit
The Port of Savannah is a powerful engine that attracts industry, technology, education and population to the region. These advances are present and expanding today. As a resident, I could not be more grateful for the vision our state government acted upon decades ago. You will see Brunswick expand significantly in the near future as the alternative to Savannah for specialized commodities. It is already the second busiest auto and rolling machine port today on the east coast (NY/NJ is first). Jacksonville, Brunswick and Savannah are all located inside a coastal string (Interstate 95) of 200 miles. This is immense potential for the region and the state of GA. 🇺🇸⚓️
Really? You happy with what Savannah has become?
Wow! A lot of great information. Hope they don’t ruin the city
I hope so too
City is already ruined. They are putting warehouse anywhere with no logistical sense
We were in Savanah a couple of months ago. Saw several Container Ships moving up and down the river. There is work in progress to get the Containers in an out of the port. New work on Interstate 16 to allow the truck in and out of the area.
I have been delivering yachts up and down the east coast and Gulf 8:31 for 23 yrs. Watched the growth of Savannah’s port all that time. I agree the state and political subdivisions have done a tremendous job of facilitating the growth. But let’s not forget that the state of California and the political subdivisions basically chased the traffic out of their ports. Between truck rules and regulations, labor rules, taxes, lack of up dates to infrastructure California made it’s own bed. The state of Oregon and the ports of Portland and Vancouver did the same. You are correct in that I see container traffic in Houston, Mobile, Charleston,Norfolk, Brunswick etc. all on the rise. My hope is they don’t let the politicians do to them what the west coast ports let the governing bodies do to them.
I am doing an episode now on the Escape from the Port of LA!
@@wgowshipping thank you for doing it. I hope the politicians who can influence the direction of their ports see it and learn from it.
That's exactly whats happening here !
The port is booming in business but let’s not forget that the truckers have to deal with the bullcrap. Long waits times to get in, long wait times to get container, long wait times to leave, waiting while the ports shuts down for lunch, waiting time while the ports shuts down for shift change, no chassis’, lack of machines to pick up empties off truckers chassis, lack of machines to drop loaded containers, the disrespect that the union port workers give to truckers(they literally yell and cuss you out), no appointment availability to return empty containers, thousands of dollars for demurrage….Cmon, if you gonna do some reporting shoot the real with the people
I always enjoy staying at the savanna Hyatt with a river view room…it’s neat to watch the large ships motor by so quietly..
I have come to believe that California could foul up a butter sandwich. It looks like due to Cali's overreach on regulations and fees and such, that it makes more economic sense to sail more days and pay for the Panama Canal passage then going to LA/LB.
Not for long china is closer to Cali and don't have to travel through panama canal enjoy while it last
@@Loreal_North22 I wrote a post on Calif above. They have committed economic suicide, not coming back anytime soon. Eventually, things might get bad enough to bring in practical politicians, but probably a long ways away.
East coast ports are open. Eastern states still enforce the law, so shipments can safely transfer from ship to train/truck and move out to the country. Unlike in Commiefornia where the law is not enforced and criminals take whatever they wish from anything that gets out of port.
Back in the fabulous 80s there was a place on the river in Savannah to get a decent Philadelphia Cheesesteak. B.R. Dooley’s was the name I believe.....it was cool to see giant ships pass by just a few yards away!
One competitive advantage that LA/LB have had is the absolutely massive amount of warehousing capacity.
I think the shift to Savannah, Jacksonville and the gulf will bring along with it an opportunity for warehousing. The risk of hurricanes will require any logistics hub to be established well inland. The I-81 corridor would be perfect but that interstate and rail corridor can't take the volume, primarily because of Virginia politics.
The I-65 corridor still has a lot of potential land area for warehousing, especially south of Nashville. How is the rail infrastructure from the eastern ports to the areas between Birmingham and Nashville?
The eastern ports don't operate in isolation. For the long term sustainability of the higher import volume, the other components need to be in place.
On a side note, Savannah has come a long way since I was last there in 2010ish. It was almost all Ikea. Diversity is great.
Driving to Florida from the Northeast I usually just blow through Georgia. My only real concern is there are always a lot of speed traps there. I stopped off in Savannah for a day and was amazed that you can sit on the shore of the river and these sideways buildings go floating by. It was just after the Suez Ever Given and I was thinking how can these things possibly get moving up a lazy river that could not be that deep.
I never had any idea that Savannah had the size infrastructure that could rival what they were taking into Long Beach. Good for them.
I wonder if somebody's going to do a study with the new Panama Lanes just which ports on the Gulf and East Coast are going to have the largest percentages of increase as a result of that.
Sure glad you find the time to make these great videos Professor. I mean Chairman. I mean Captain. Yikes!
Greetings and positive energy comin' atcha' from BC, Canada.
Great presentation, content, graphics, and data. Thanks.
Much appreciated!
Welcome back to your channel, Sal! 😀
Welcome back!
Danke!
Great overview of our Savannah port, Sal! Thank you...🇺🇸 😎👍☕
You bet!
We missed you Dr Sal🤷🏼♀️😁
I was wondering about the iron clad right smack in the middle of the river. Thanks for talking about the CSS iron clad!
Don't get too excited about the East Coast boom. PMA tactics during negotiations.
I don't see much RORO traffic coming to Brunswick anytime soon... Yes with the existing car carriers, and they are building another berth so they can have 4 ships in port at one time... Brunswick could expand.. There is/was room. But Politicians and Logistics will screw that up... Back in WW2, Brunswick built the most Liberty ships, turning out 1 a month they say.. and the old slipways are still there... But I don't see any indication of new intentions to expand..
Do you see a more targeted distribution system taking place?
As an example, instead of dropping off 2,000 containers
In NY/ NJ to be distributed on the EAST coast.
Drop off 500 in New Orleans, 500 in Jacksonville, 500 in Savannah the rest in NY/NJ.
One of the issues in LA/LB, at least in the past, was getting the containers out.
I believe it was 2009 before the financial collapse, the LA/LB, port authority, stated it was running almost 30 days until your container off loaded and loaded to exit, truck or rail, they were that backed up.
Most ships that call at Savannah, also call at two to three other ports, whereas on the West Coast, nearly 80 to 100% of all containers from a ship are offloaded in LA or LB.
Appreciate the video! Very informative. When it comes to the ports there is always talks of handling more containers however there is NEVER a discussing of how the terminals upgrades their facility to also speed up time for the truckers brining in containers in and out of the terminal. Wait times are horrendous and there is such a lack of chassis for truckers that they wait hours just to obtain one then hours waiting in line to grab the container to leave! Would you be opposed to making a video about that aspect in which NO ONE discusses?
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I hope the truck divers understand how this will affect them. They can plan a better for the future.
Can you go into detail what you means with the comment? I’m a trucker looking to relocate and work in savannah yet I’ve never been so any insight would be appreciated
@@tricallyourmama We just sold our place in the area due to the insane growth, BUT, the longevity factor for logistics and trucking is robust. The infrastructure improvements are vast with all connectors to US HWY 95. It's all about habitability and what you desire. We got tired of the projects and then being rear ended by an semi a year ago. The growth is too fast, and I know after coming from both Texas and Arizona what all this leads to, so we sold.
Thanks Sal
It was recently announced that GDOT will be raising the Talmadge Bridge. Not sure what the new total height will be.
Long Beach CT prices from Indo and likely the rest of that region are at sub pandemic rates right now.
The State of North Carolina continues to be "The Rip Van Winkle" state.
Don't cha love it when life gets in the way of the stuff you want to do...
Sal, do you think that LA and Long Beach will get better for truckers like myself this year? Or maybe I should relocate to gulf or savanna?
I am just not sure Shawn. The new engine standards, neo-Panamax ships and the continued ILWU/PMA renegotiation make this situation different than 2015. This shift from the West to East Coast has been going on for a while. Plus, the population is more centered on the south and southeast.
Hey Shawn! I’m a LA/LB trucker and I’m also looking at Savannah. It’s only getting worse for us truckers. All the silly regulations the port and cali puts on us are horrendous. I’m gonna head to the Georgia logistics summit to check it out. Hopefully we can link up and discuss our options
The LA/LB ports are trying to get rid of roto so they’ll force carriers to bring in their own chassis. Not sure when it’s happening but you’ll notice at MSK on the way out there is a stack of chassis that say “SALE” meaning it’s already in progress. It’s gonna happen across the board for all the terminals soon
California is done. They may eventually hit rock bottom and get onto a 12-step program, but not very soon.
@@tricallyourmama in the port of Charleston, the SCPA has bought their own chassis and I’d say that most local trucking companies have been leasing new chassis for some time now. It definitely reduces the turn time at the ports.
Wish it would go back to this. Savannah is hitting record lows, only working once or twice a week out there. Its killing us
great video Sal!
Glad you liked it!
Hello Dr. Sal, Re; RORO shipping, would you know where RORO shipping (that is/was in Savnnah will) shift to? Brunswick? Jacksonville? Wherever it goes, I would worry about Roll On Roll Over.
How much of the Port of Savannha was built at the taxpayers largest?
The state of Georgia owns all of the ports used within the state. The costs of improvements, maintenance and upkeep and such does come from the state coffers and yes a portion of the State Taxes levied are used as such. But at the same time all of the ports/state place charges against any entity wishing to conduct business thru their jurisdiction thus producing revenue for the state. Also the local populations benefit from jobs produced with respect to the employment availability in those areas.
DOT apparently going to raise the bridge to allow bigger ships in. If the port needs something it's always right on time and plenty of budget. Meanwhile every road in and out of Savannah is 20 years behind in traffic mitigation. At this point I don't give a flying rip how well GPA does. Savannah doesn't need anymore growth, anymore trucks, anymore warehouses, or anymore new residents. Perpetual growth is not a plan.
I know about Georgia ports for years due to the PC game called Trans-Ocean: The shipping company and Trans-Ocean 2: Rivals
In addition to what Savannah is currently doing, the Jasper Ocean terminal will be built on the South Carolina side of the river and is expected to up and running between 2035 and 2037. This will be approximately 10 miles south of Savannah. With the way the area is growing, I’ll be happy to retire someplace else, and I’m from Savannah.
It seems like we won't have a break here at the Panama Canal. Keep them coming!
Dr. Sal letting his side hustle get in the way of his RUclips career…. 😜
So true!
It is amazing how your career has developed since Breaking Bad!
Blue Meth to Deep Blue Sea!
Your channel is incredibly informative and I had never appreciated importance of shipping costs on economies, of the huge impact of using river and coastal traffic and the huge personal commitments of sailors, dock workers and pilots. Even rainfall effects on river levels! Thank you very much, from the UK.
Sal! Please cover the USACE Cat Calendar. Pretty please?
On it!
Most people are unaware that just before the Cessation of the States, the Southern states were debt free.
No one is debt free today. I see a resemblance in Ga's efforts to be profitable.
Its pretty obvious theyre going to put pressure on LA and LB to get their shit together
California is committing business suicide. AB-5, banning older trucks, impending all-electric trucks, port labor issues, and massive theft along the rail routes are all killers. AB-5 is a back door way to force unionization (higher costs), electric trucks limit driving range per many-hour charge, and nobody seems to know how to stop the theft. About the only way to move by truck is a battery big enough to get across the state line, and a diesel truck picks up from there. If they ban diesel locomotives, the only viable way to get trains across the mountains would be to hang overhead wire, at a cost of several billion dollars.
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Hey Sal, how do you feel about the painting of Jesus at Sea being covered at Merchant Marine Academy? I don't know any atheists in a bad storm at sea, or the Lakes.
I think it is wrong.
Turn out the lights, we're done.
Sal, did Trinity House ever comment on the death of the UK pilot?
Not that I have seen.
@@wgowshipping Thanks Sal.
General W. T. Sherman saved Savannah from his torch as he thought it was the most beautiful place he had ever seen when he saw it for his first assignment after graduating West Point.
Talk unions my man. Ga can have all of the expansion in the world but be hamstrung by unions. What is the difference between Ca ports and Ga ports on the union side.
Go Camels! #alum
Can’t handle all the shit being dumped by Xina .. and we ship our jobs and money in return . 😢😢