i love watching you guys! You not only teach by example and playing, but I love that even when you show competitive natured shows/decks you keep it chill and fun. Please don't stop :) BOOPSTER 4 LIFE
Wow. This was one of the greates matches I have ever seen. Great decks. I love zoo, but that Waste Not Storm knocked it out of the water. Brilliant deck.
As a judge, I feel compelled to make this clarification for this video: DO NOT use multiple dice to determine random effects, like discarding random cards from your hand. Random effects, like Burning Inquiry, require all outcomes to be equally likely, and using multiple dice skews the result to the average value. For actually equal distributions, use a single die. Or www.random.org . Just had to say that because you used basically two six-sided dice to discard from a hand of 11 cards, which you can't do in sanctioned events.
+Throne of Sin They probably do. Just clarifying for viewers. I just came upon many people who don't really know how probability works throughout my life.
I get why you cant in sanctioned play however assuming the cards are actually shuffled before you put them down ie no one cheated an knows the location of a given card which there would be little reason to do in casual play it has essentially the same effect not truly random selection but the cards being selected from are in a random order
Burn might win... Since your trying to lower your health to at least the 3-6 range, so some one will just cast two lightning bolts for us and ruin the Zoo's day...
is there anyway to make the land base cheaper, i have all the shock lands just not the fetches, so in theory can i still make it consistent without the fetches?
Love your stuff guys, but I have one complaint that spans all your videos. SIDEBOARDS! haha. I'd love to build this storm deck or the recent modern goblins one, and i'd love your suggestions of how to construct sideboards for these. I understand why you may not use them, cause you know what you're up against, and i know i could just go look up similar deck's boards but I'd love your opinions too :D
+Connor Haley If we start doing deck techs in the future we might talk about potential inclusions, but as far as making sideboards for the games, we probably won't be doing that any time soon (Also cause we would have to buy a lot of the sideboard staples and really never get use out of them haha)
Do you guys do Deck techs? Like both of the decks are sick and I would love to build at least one of them, but I want to compare deck lists to others and see what changes I need
I thought of a landfall combo. Would it work? You play Urborg or something that makes basic land types and keep searching for fetches with fetches to give something like steppe Lynx lots of power.
should figure out some sort of sideboard for waste not be really cool if u do the deck I feel has some very strong plays and synergies that in any modern meta can be back breaking
+Jeremey Donohue We weren't planning to have this matchup for a while, but some Legacy cards I am waiting on were delayed so we pushed it up the pipeline haha. Good suggestion!
+Porygonal It seems like that could make for a good alternate win condition, but the deck is really only splashing blue for Serum Visions to make the draws a bit more consistent, I could see the potential of that card, but maybe in a more blue heavy list.
+Thomas Magnuson Hmm, yeah you are correct, more combinations for some numbers... It can't roll a 1 at all haha. But really for the purpose we were using it for, it didn't matter all that much, the hands were shuffled already anyways, the dice was just for an extra layer of randomness while choosing which cards to discard.
Your videos are awesome,both in quality than originality. Maybe some day you'll make an EDH video,which is the only "big" format you haven't played yet
+Flaming Opossum Thanks so much! Well that and Standard, but that's kind of a money trap haha. The issue with EDH is that it isn't really meant for 1v1 typically, but maybe one day we will cave haha.
in all your games of storm I've noticed that you tend to forget the original storm card in the storm count, am i missing something or are you making a mistake?
The original storm card doesn't count. You cast it, then make X copies, where X is the Storm count (if I had 8 storm and cast Grapeshot, I would deal 9, not 10, for instance)
+1KevinsFamousChili1 We actually kind of did a loooong time ago. Although that deck was a bit different because it tried to use Demigod of Revenge haha. ruclips.net/video/Kkn0RKc_Dlk/видео.html
i present to you "the hell is this" vs "the hell was that".
was fun to watch. i like waste not
Suicide Zoo was played at an event by Brad Nelson, and it caught on for a short while. Waste Not Storm on the other hand, dafuq
I'm not sure if it's my end, but the audio seems about half a second behind
+Nick Beheler Yeap, I'm having that too. But the decks were really cool! :D I enjoyed the episode ^^
+Nick Beheler Oops! Yeah that did somehow get slightly desynced, weird how I didn't notice that in the editing stage :/ Sorry about that
+Forest Bear Studios I thought Mutagenic growth was banned?
+Terran Geotryx Nope, I don't think it is in any format (Expect standard and block constructed and yadda yadda, but that's obvious haha)
***** Oh I was just assuming because when I google the card it says its not legal in any format under sets and legality so It was just Curiosity
i love watching you guys! You not only teach by example and playing, but I love that even when you show competitive natured shows/decks you keep it chill and fun. Please don't stop :)
BOOPSTER 4 LIFE
since the audio is off I kept thinking yall were predicting your dice rolls incredibly accurately lol
Could you guys play another match with "waste not storm", i really liked that deck and want to see against another meta decks
oh and I come to your channel every time I'm looking for a new deck to you with. I appreciate your content guys. keep up the good work
Wow. This was one of the greates matches I have ever seen. Great decks. I love zoo, but that Waste Not Storm knocked it out of the water. Brilliant deck.
As a judge, I feel compelled to make this clarification for this video:
DO NOT use multiple dice to determine random effects, like discarding random cards from your hand. Random effects, like Burning Inquiry, require all outcomes to be equally likely, and using multiple dice skews the result to the average value. For actually equal distributions, use a single die. Or www.random.org .
Just had to say that because you used basically two six-sided dice to discard from a hand of 11 cards, which you can't do in sanctioned events.
I'm fairly sure they know this, but this is casual play, so I don't personally think it detracted from the quality of the video.
+Throne of Sin They probably do. Just clarifying for viewers.
I just came upon many people who don't really know how probability works throughout my life.
I get why you cant in sanctioned play however assuming the cards are actually shuffled before you put them down ie no one cheated an knows the location of a given card which there would be little reason to do in casual play it has essentially the same effect not truly random selection but the cards being selected from are in a random order
You guys do the best job at teaching how decks work and how mechanics trigger etc.. keep it up guys.
Waste Not Storm awesome deck...maybe it needs a couple removals on the low curve, but yeah, a good deck!
These are my two favourite decks! Great video guys
THOSE were legendary turn 2s.
These were both really sweet, interesting decks!
+TheEmpPlayer Thanks! Yeah they were a blast to pit against each other!
Why didn't you play a ritual before casting inquiry? Then even if you didn't draw a land or he didn't discard a land, you could keep going.
that storm deck was awesome, i really like the card waste not and seeing it function so crazily was great.
+dudewithnovids12 It's a pretty cool strategy!
suicide zoo vs. burn, i must see it!
Burn might win... Since your trying to lower your health to at least the 3-6 range, so some one will just cast two lightning bolts for us and ruin the Zoo's day...
FYI it's called "zooicide" :P
is there anyway to make the land base cheaper, i have all the shock lands just not the fetches, so in theory can i still make it consistent without the fetches?
+omgmoonfish for the zoo deck i mean
The audio is not synced sadly
any chance you could do a deck tech for the waste not deck really liked how it played.
The waste not deck was surprisingly consistant. Im curious what the sideboard would be for that deck
That turn two storm.. Great game
That Waste Not deck is sweet.
have you guys ever gone into detail on how you shoot the videos?
Love your stuff guys, but I have one complaint that spans all your videos. SIDEBOARDS! haha. I'd love to build this storm deck or the recent modern goblins one, and i'd love your suggestions of how to construct sideboards for these. I understand why you may not use them, cause you know what you're up against, and i know i could just go look up similar deck's boards but I'd love your opinions too :D
+Connor Haley If we start doing deck techs in the future we might talk about potential inclusions, but as far as making sideboards for the games, we probably won't be doing that any time soon (Also cause we would have to buy a lot of the sideboard staples and really never get use out of them haha)
The audio is a little weird, was it recorded afterwards?
+Alex Griggs No, it just got a bit desynced is all.
that waist not deck looks super fun to play i might have a new project on hand
+Boom Joles It's a really cool strategy, and has that fun randomness factor as well!
Do you guys do Deck techs? Like both of the decks are sick and I would love to build at least one of them, but I want to compare deck lists to others and see what changes I need
+Jacob Anderson Right now we just do decklists in the description, but we may explore that avenue in the future!
+Forest Bear Studios I didn't even see that THANKS SO MUCH
I thought of a landfall combo. Would it work? You play Urborg or something that makes basic land types and keep searching for fetches with fetches to give something like steppe Lynx lots of power.
Urborg only affects lands in play.
Oh okay
Ollyvolly band coral helm does something similar with Lots and coral helm retreat
is it possible to add some slot for liliana caress in the waste not storm i think it will be a fast clock with waste not
You should do the new duel deck, Eldrazi vs Zendikar
+Guppys Tears Good idea!
Thanks! Your awesome!
+Guppys Tears he did it
I know. i said this before they did the vid
You realize that throwing 2d6 isn't that random? the chances og getting 2 or 12 is very low compared to the middle numbers like 6,7.8 etc.
should figure out some sort of sideboard for waste not be really cool if u do the deck I feel has some very strong plays and synergies that in any modern meta can be back breaking
I have been looking forward to this video since you replied to my zoo comment.
it's also insane for me to not like do a running commentary on the zoo deck. I built it a while ago and love it.
+Jeremey Donohue We weren't planning to have this matchup for a while, but some Legacy cards I am waiting on were delayed so we pushed it up the pipeline haha. Good suggestion!
You guys should have Chubby play a mono blue control deck and Atkst play mono red or zoo, just to change up what they usually do.
What do you think about adding sphinx's tutelage to the deck with all that draw? Or is 3cmc too high on the curve?
+Porygonal It seems like that could make for a good alternate win condition, but the deck is really only splashing blue for Serum Visions to make the draws a bit more consistent, I could see the potential of that card, but maybe in a more blue heavy list.
PLZ DO A CHARGING BADGER DECK!
Turn 1 charging badger all day!!!!!!!!
Do you mean my mono blue deck featuring bloodstained mire?
waste not storm deck list?
What's the intro song?
I really like waste not storm, it's not as consistent as normal storm but a lot more fun!
LOVE your videos guys !!! please we want more modern : D !!
+MAKIS TSETSENOGLOY We do Modern quite a bit, don't worry, plenty where that came from haha
Why did Chubby discard three cards after the Burning Inquiry in game 1?
+Alex Storer OH I didn't realize it said "each player." Nevermind.
That 2 d6 die you used isnt truly even, it is more likely to roll a 6,7, or 8 than a 1,2,11 or 12
+Thomas Magnuson Hmm, yeah you are correct, more combinations for some numbers... It can't roll a 1 at all haha. But really for the purpose we were using it for, it didn't matter all that much, the hands were shuffled already anyways, the dice was just for an extra layer of randomness while choosing which cards to discard.
+Forest Bear Studios even if you were rolling 2 separate d6 you would be more likely to hit 6,7,8 than 2,11,12, with 2 and 12 being the least likely
+MrYevral Very true!
Fun decks as usual :)
+BlanzipGames Arigato! It was a pretty fun matchup!
Your videos are awesome,both in quality than originality.
Maybe some day you'll make an EDH video,which is the only "big" format you haven't played yet
+Flaming Opossum Thanks so much! Well that and Standard, but that's kind of a money trap haha. The issue with EDH is that it isn't really meant for 1v1 typically, but maybe one day we will cave haha.
It's crazy to think a fetch turn 3 would have been game
Sound is off with the video rip
What is the deck list for the waste not deck?
+patrick gendaszek It's in the description
Thanks
great video but the sound in this video is a bit out of time.
2:13 whats the pun?
+Nikata Nyx Izzet a pun? If so, then Izzet interesting?
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in all your games of storm I've noticed that you tend to forget the original storm card in the storm count, am i missing something or are you making a mistake?
The original storm card doesn't count. You cast it, then make X copies, where X is the Storm count (if I had 8 storm and cast Grapeshot, I would deal 9, not 10, for instance)
Titania EDH uses fetches to get basics and 5/3 tokens
What's the definition of a Zoo deck?
Basically naya or gruul creature base aggro
It's not just animals because it can include stuff like goblin guide and knight of the reliquary
Am I the only one for whom the audio and video were out of sync?
I'm sorry to say this but I don't get the landfall pun :(
+TheNovaDogs There was a landfall pun? lol
+Forest Bear Studios at around 2:04 or something
Well one of my favorite versions of storm...I'll call each misplay...maybe
+Ethan Ford Ford Nothing I love more....... haha.
why waste not storm and he kill you with grapeshot??
Storm often kills with grapeshot. I assume waste not because it's used as a draw, swarm and mana engine.
you mana engine is waste not wright?
+Sébastien Beaudette That and the suite of ritual effects.
dat turn 2 doe
Make a round counter
damn like waste not makes ur deck so aggressive if u had 3 mana ideally blue and red in hand on turn 2 u probably won that turn
jw y serum visions over gitaxian probe
8 on turn 2 nice
i play 12 fetches with only 8 legal targets in my burn deck so to answer your question yes people do do that...
+ChasePlays_MC i think they meant playing a scalding tarn with no islands or mountains most fast decks play more fetches than fetch able lands
CHubby seems to like cats...hopefully he doesnt eat them all
+Jonathan Winer lol, i'll try not to... No promises...
- Chubby
lands go in the back you control player
a lottttt of mistakes on the storm side
Play Loam Pox :D
+1KevinsFamousChili1 We actually kind of did a loooong time ago. Although that deck was a bit different because it tried to use Demigod of Revenge haha.
ruclips.net/video/Kkn0RKc_Dlk/видео.html
Mr.Boopster mvp
Such lucky draws, getting turn 1 waste nots that actually go into soemthing lol
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The third time he discarded at 6:47 he discarded the 1 card and not the 2 card. CHEATER!!!!!!!!!!!!
jesus christ so annoying how long it took to discards randomly... come on its not sanctioned..