Solar SEG Payments UK. How to Apply, What you need, How Long? Outgoing Octopus Energy
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- Опубликовано: 23 сен 2024
- In this video I show you where to look to discover the best SEG Solar payments on the UK market. I also walk you through applying for SEG payments and signing up to the Octopus Energy Outgoing tariff. I also share my experience of signing up for SEG for the first time and how long it actually takes.
Get £50 when you switch to Octopus. Use this link share.octopus.... or use my code "tough-snail-7955" either when speaking to Octopus on the phone or once your account control panel is live and you can enter it in there.
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Hi Daniel, Just noticed your video. It's very timely ..... we had our panels and battery fitted last week. We're already with Octopus, so you've given us an excellent road map of the next several weeks. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks Dan have just had solar system fitted and have applied for export , very useful video
Glad it helped
Thanks, very useful. I’m just at the SEG stage now.
Good luck!
Great video Daniel ... exactly the information I am interested in and needed. Saved me hours of trolling the net and providers. Thanks.
Thank you for your comment.
Thanks Dan it’s come at just the right time as we waiting for the battery and install on our new house. I wasn’t aware of the process and as an octopus customer I will be following your lead.
Glad to help
@@daniel_coe it good to see you after 30 years when we were at the Isle College! Great content on your channel
@@ecoess thanks. Good old Isle College!
Thanks Dan, very informative as always, the video really helps me understand the timescales and processes involved. Keep up the good work.
Thanks, will do!
Thank you for making this Video Daniel, I have now applied for my FIT with Octopus :)
Great, will you be getting the lovely 15p rate or the not so desirable 4.1p rate?
@@daniel_coe That I'm not sure yet, hopefully the desirable 15p, fingers crossed.
Switching energy company for who you sell to under SEG tariffs was pretty straightforward. I switched to Octopus for my supply and was told I would have to wait until my account was all set up before I could start the process of switch my export. I was being paid by by old energy company (So Energy) and the switch took about 3 weeks. Very similar to switching supplier with a 14 day cooling off period and followed by a week or so to the exchange of meter readings to agree end and start positions. Took quite a while to get my final payment and refund of balance being held.
I found you video Interesting as my PV should be completed on Monday, and my battery, a Powerwall 2 to be fitted in December hopefully when it arrives. I’ve gone for powerwall mainly on import and export rates are the same, and unit rate is cheaper than I’ve paid in the last few years, time will tell.
Good luck with the install. Powerwall would have been nice, I just didn't want to have to wait so long for the battery. My GivEnergy battery took 4.5 months to come from initial ordering and 2.5 months after solar install.
HI Daniel my Octopus SEG application from start to finish took just three weeks, applied on 2nd Sep and up and running on Sat 24th, I was a little confused on the day as to what was happing (summitted an export reading from the DNO meter online from my account) and just waited and by midday it was working fine. Now that Octopus outgoing rate has been increased to 15p per kwh, I was going to install an Eddi diverter (Solar Only for now - battery later) but running my export calculations again, I believe for me it is now better to consume as much as possible to allow the export and earn the payments as Gas prices will be lower @ 10.3p per kwh and we are a low gas consumption house hold. The cost of purchasing & fitting the Eddi would be around £600 and I don't think we would see any payback on this investment. Even less so when we have batteries.
I see your point, plus in the winter you'll be running your boiler for heating anyway so might as well do hot water as well, just like I am planning to do.
Thank you Daniel . You have helped me understand a little bit more on the subject.
Glad it was helpful!
Hi, your video has been extremely helpful thanks. I will also try use your code over the phone tomorrow. Did not think of the referral option and really appreciate you mentioning it.
Glad it was helpful!
One other to consider is Outgoing Octopus Agile, on average recently it's been paying 20p/kWh and up to 62p/kWh.
You do allude to it but to be specific, you can't have either of the Outgoing Octopus export tariffs if you're on the Octopus Go import tariff.
I've just changed to 'Go' and am now on the 4.1p SEG tariff.
N.B. Energy is measured in kilo Watt Hours (kWhrs) not kW. kW is a measure of power.
Very good video. Its like a minefield. We didn't realise that you had to have a smart meter before you could connect. Its a pity you're not told these things before you install the solar panels. So we're waiting for a smart meter to be fitted. Nothing is easy.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for this great info just what I needed to know will be starting my supplier switch and once all my certification comes though I will apply for my SEG once again thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Interesting video. Having recently had solar and batteries installed I was told it would take 6-8 weeks to get the paperwork sorted.
I think it must vary on the time of year and where you live.
My installers applied for DNO approval three weeks after the pv system was commissioned on 29/6/22.
Octopus is coming to check my malfunctioning smart meter (installed by octopus last year) in the beginning of September.
Will be thrilled if I start receiving payments before Christmas. Meanwhile we export to the grid hundreds of kWh for free.
Make sure you use as much as you can! Thing is about DNO approval afterwards, is that what if the DNO say no. Then they'll probably have to cap your system.
Thanks for the useful info Daniel, I just switched to Octopus and used your code 🙂
Awesome! Thank you!
Hi Daniel. This is the 2nd time I've watched this v informative vid. Thanks.
All being well, we'll be moving to a bungalow with no renewables, so the plan is to have solar, storage & more. Liking what Octopus is doing, I wonder if the 1st move should be to get them to fit a Smart meter. Your thoughts would be appreciated. M
It's probably a good idea, as you can't get onto most tariffs without one. I don't know how long it takes to get one, but maybe quite a while. I am waiting 6 weeks for a meter reboot
@@daniel_coe Thanks 😊
Exactly the info I needed, thank you for sharing :)
Great, thanks for the comment
Good to know, just starting on same journey! Thanks
Best of luck!
Thanks, old, but other than tariff all still relevant
You have a great online voice. Hope you post more videos.
Thank you, I will
Octopus agile outgoing is the way to go.
I've got that, it went live on Sunday.
It really is disgusting how much money, and time is wasted in Solar exports sign up, registrations etc. The fact is all Solar installers will tell you, you are good to go as soon as they finish installation and turn on. It all falls again to the Power companies screwing people over. There is absolutely no reason you can't have everything set up pre installation, as the company should have that all done on the day.
I agree that the way it's handled could be a bit smoother. There's no rush for them if you are exporting for free and not getting paid for it, as someone is benefitting.
We have just watched your video again as we had Solar installed on 10 th August 2022 we transferred to Octopus we still are not receiving credit for the export to the grid , the issue surrounds MPAN 13 digit number ! We have had a real run around trying to secure this Octopus are declaring this is produced by your DNO in our case this is UK Power Networks LTD .
Sadly our DNO are certainly not very helpful .
Yes, if you don't have a mpan for the export meter already. Octopus should apply for it on your behalf. It was a painfully long time to get the mpan number, and there is no one to contact to hurry it along at the DNO.
Thank you for the Information
I’m not having any look getting how to information from my installer or current supplier
PV and storage being installed on the 19th august
You should be fine, you have to apply after installation anyway.
good morning Daniel,i have my complete solar install fitted battery,19 panels, Eddie and Zappi question when looking at my app why does the energy coming from the panels still show slight export why wouldn't it all just go into the battery as this showing only 20% question 2 if you could show how to use Eddie eg show how to get Eddie to divert solar to heat hot water or even the setup a video would be great as no one shows this
You will find the values move around all the time, you can't get away from a little bit of grid use and export as it tries to balance the incoming and outgoing. The incoming happens when you turn devices on and off and you get a little bit of lag in the system especially when using a battery. Getting myenergi ct clamps on everything does give you a better overall view of what the system is up to.
Hi Dan. I applied to Scottish power back in July 2022 and they still have not paid me a penny or set up the account as yet. It can go for months without getting a reply to any e-mails sent. Avoid at all cost
I've set it all up now and entered my bank details. I can see where you enter your export readings, so now I just have to wait for 6 months. I agree. I don't think they are great at replying to emails.
Hi Daniel. Our installer messed up the G99 application and as a result we have lost about 7 weeks of export income (at Octopus Flux rate) We are thinking of requesting a refund. Did your installer make the G99 application before installation ? ours did not.
Yes, they got G99 before installation. Even though I had paidnthe deposit and signed the contract. My brother in law wanted G99 approval before he would even sign the contract, in case it all had to be changed.
Thanks Dan. Did you move from Agile to Flux?
No, just from a standard octopus tariff to Octopus Go
Subscribed. Many thanks, I had 10 solar panels fitted last week and I hadn't a clue what to do. My Energy supplier is Shell Energy. I'm lucky my gas and electricity is fixed until 2024. I am generating power now. Silly question, obviously I don't want to change from Shell Energy yet, do I have to sell my excess generated energy to shell or can I sell it to another provider?
Many thanks you've taken some worry off my 70 year old shoulders, lol.
Hi, You can sell to whoever will take the excess. You just need that MPAN meter number first. It's really up to you, just look for the best rates.
@@daniel_coe many thanks to you. I will commence the journey shortly
You have helped me understand a little bit more about the subject. my solar scaffolding is up and ready to install Tuesday and Wednesday, they say I will get an MCS certificate after I pay in full , will they send the dno paperwork at the same time as they applied for this
Yes, that all sounds exactly the same as how my paperwork came through.
Daniel, just checking do you get paid on half total generation like fit or only the number of kWh you export? I’ve got fit here and my dad is having panels installed. So checking if it’s worth applying if my dad will be using most of the electric generated. He is considering getting an eddi as I have immersun here.
Great video it’s helped a lot!
Just number of kWh exported. I expect my exporting will decrease once I get my battery. I have installed the eddi myself and it's very good and worthwhile. The myEnergi app is also very good as it can show you everything that is happening on your system if you add CT clamps to everything you want to see that is.
So they get power from you at 7.5p or whatever and sell it back to you at 42p now. Sounds like a P.take to me.
@ Bob cat it is taking the mickey i agree, i am on FITs and get 25p kwh, my electric is currently with EDF, on a fixed tariff of roughly 19p per kwh and they spent the last 8 months @ least twice a month trying to get me to switch to a smart meter,thanks but no thanks my tariff is fixed for another 12 months ,suck it up EDF :) :)
Very informative video, thanks. Do you need to have a smart meter to claim SEG
You need a smart meter on the Solar PV side to measure export. I'm not sure if you need one on your incoming main supply. I would think you would, as its handy to have anyway as it shows you when you are exporting on the little screen they give you.
Outgoing Octopus Fixed is now 15p a kw 😊
I registered mine with octopus last year and I’ve never had a penny for them.
I'd get on and contact them, you should get paid just about every month and it should show on your bill.
You say you have to give them an export reading; do you get paid for previous generation or do they just start paying from that point?
Unfortunately you don't get paid for the previous generation. Who knows where that goes - to the DNO or to Octopus for free. You only get paid from the 1st day on SEG with a provider. I think that's why there's no rush to get you your MPAN as they know they are getting it for free! (yeah, ok maybe that's not the reason!)
I have solar panels installed by Flexi orb will octopus accept?
If you go here www.flexi-orb.com/consumers/smart-export-guarantee/ there is a red box on the page telling you who you can export to.
Thanks 👍
hi i have just swapped to octopus and am getting solar I will select your code why not put it in show more then people can copy and paste
Thank you for that. I have just added it into the description.
Hi Daniel, I have ordered my solar system and hope for fitting soon, I decided to have the 10kw battery. I have just been told that you can only send power back to the grid for 10 years, is this something you have heard of?
Never heard of that and can't see why that would be the case. May be someone else can comment on that.
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i have used yours thanks for the video very informative when I get install done I may need to contact you
Octopus energy say they are trying to create an export MPAN. They are asking me for a Reference Number beginning with ENQ or NC. Octopus say the number will be on documentation I received from my DNO. I am unable to find this Reference Number. Can you help?
That ENQ/NC number does ring a bell, I have looked through my pack of information, but can't find one. But I don't remember entering it on the Octopus SEG screen, just entering my MCS certificate number, then clicking 'Look for my certificate' on the form and uploading a copy of my DNO letter.
How does this compare with the old fit scheme
Hi, The FIT scheme paid you for every kWh you generated whether you used it or not. Now we only get paid on SEG for every kWh we export and don't use. I do think it's a worse scheme. The original early days of the FIT scheme was very good, too good. That's why it reduced over time and then vanished.
It's a bloody joke . .sell it at 5p and buy it back at 30p ...bargain!! You need to use it all 100% and don't put a single watt into the grid. Heat your hot water and store it in batteries but do not bother with these pathetic SEG payments...nothing SMART about them at all.
Hopefully the whole market will take a look at the payments and adjust them all soon, I don't think they've been adjusted for years.
@@daniel_coe that will definately not happen there is no incentive for them to raise the SEG rates, as soon as the Govt removed the guranteed pence per kwh with annual inflation all the electric companies knew they were on a home run screwing the consumer i am not giving up my FITs no way not @ 25p per kwh, my FITS pays both gas/electric for the year and money over £500 surplus last year, its not broke so it not getting fixed
@ Daniel Coe.
I signed up online saw no option to apply your referral code..phoned them..they said because i signed up allready i cant apply code..i need email or account number to verify your referral, Can you help?
I think you should be able to just tell them the referral code over the phone or via email in order to get your £50
@@daniel_coe i emailed them and they said its accepted,, guy on the phone was just being difficult
@@daniel_coe i fitted a wallbox and have a MG, was told its not on their compatible list for the Octupuss intelligent unless i have a ohme charger, but a wallbox is also OCPP and smart, I dont see why I can't still have intelligent tarrif, i mean even if i had a car from their list..and imagine MG was my 2nd car, surely i could plug it in then with intelligent tarrif...