Phantom forces used to have at one point 30k players online, the game needs more new players. (The new update will be coming out soon so I think it will go from 6k players to 10k players online, just like the pacific cold front did)
try bad business, its something like phantom forces and arsenal merged together. if you do, try to play on the soviet square map. theres a phantom forces reference in the middle of the map
I heavily dislike the direction bad business took, I really liked it back when it was still pretty new and stuff was simple Still a good game just not my cup of tea
@@nesyboi9421 yeah, when I first played it, the M14 was absolutely busted. Like you could fire a few times down a choke point and you'd kill someone. Also this was back when the only attachments you could use were optics, and nothing else.
@@Anarqism you would, it applies to most fps games, in phantom forces you can have different meles which give different movement speed (and same for guns) such as fists and karambit giving higher movementspeeds than regular mele
Arsenal for me is something I can pick up and mess around on for a while but it gets repetitive pretty quick since it's always gun game. And this is coming from a PF player. 💀 EDIT: Nice vid, keep it up! 🎉
Hinestly, I used to play arsenal throughout 2020 and early 2021 but I quit due to the community becoming more toxic each day, the 3 same gamemodes being played all the time with others neglected, making the game more repetetive and the new guns being blatant copies of older weapons with just the model changed. Edit: 69 likes *N I C E*
@@glimpse5038 since most youtuber quitted arsenal, there's of course would be less children in the arsenal community, well i wouldnt say the community is better than pf or so the other way around
@@glimpse5038 I have to agree, but I feel like the arsenal situation is more sad since I saw the community decline into a toxic wasteland with my own eyes, since I played it in what turned out to be the era when the community became toxic
When I first tried phantom forces, I had the exact opposite opinion. I repeatedly got clapped by experienced players in close quarters maps with no time to even react
@@bIuecap This is what I think makes Arsenal more popular, less complicated, more "calm" and easier for a rookie to get into, you don't need to grind levels to get weapons and stuff. Overall, PF needs you to invest time into it to get the good stuff (unless you pay money to get the cheesed guns) whereas in Arsenal it's just train your combat and you're good to go.
@@rodolfo9876a Not much training with hit scan weapons and no recoil on most guns, but the recoil part goes for PF too lmao. Arsenal is definitely easier and more fun for newer people but it is way more mindless of a game to play and doesn't have a lot of satisfaction IMO.
4:25 in arsenal there actually is a way to bhop but it's very finnicky and is dependent on you having somewhat high ping (around 120 I think) and might've been patched
in my opinion Arsenal is distinct from most shooters in general for being a more arcade-like pick up and play experience. its just chaotic and ridiculous for the sake of it, and i think its good to play to wind down from more serious games
Hi Moon FPS Studio, your video was absolutely amazing! What I agree that Phantom Forces should take from is the Melee case and the gun rotation. Gun rotation is basically the same thing in Phantom Forces, but phantom forces describes gun rotation as gun game, making it more diverse on that topic when including a more variety of guns, suppressors, and sights. I enjoy gun game more than I do in Arsenal gun rotation as it it brings a more unique feel to the game! Let's hope that Stylis considers and watch this video!
This is so good timing, I’ve been playing arsenal for almost a month now, because PF is just boring atm, and I just gotta say it’s pretty fun and the fast pace is just so satisfying
this is actually really cool to see how a newer player comes on and what they think about arsenal, ive always complained about why people vote for gamemodes that i hated as a more og player now but this tells me a lot LOL
Want more of a challenge in arsenal? There's a whole community around extremely skill based gameplay, this can range from 2v2s, to scrimmages, to tournaments and more. And trust me, everyone that plays these are extremely good. If you want to check that out, lmk, ill help you get in there :)
@@SnowMexicann Join acl or ash discord server. They host 2v2s and 3v3s there against REALLY REALLY good players. Before i quit the game i would get DESTROYED there. Even tho i was level 450 (i know level doesn't mean skill blablabla)
Arsenal vs PF is like Quake vs CSGO One's pure aiming capabilities, The other uses a lot more mechanics and strategies with some aim. But both are rlly good games imo
As a fellow Arsenal player, i’d say that this is typical when people switch to Arsenal. And most people doesn’t even check anything, just click “deploy”, and start enjoying pain and struggle. edit: wow thank you for the heart
I quit playing both Arsenal and Phantom forces and moved to Trench: Beta and was considering quitting Roblox because of the bad updates and moving to Enlisted
I actually started on arsenal, but then I discovered pf and I was like "woah, this is literally so much better wtf" but I still play arsenal often because it is a very high ttk game and encourages 2 minute fast paced CQC battles instead of 10 min strategic pf.
@@acethemain7776 well, compared to arsenal, pf has a larger map size by a lot and more classes of guns (did I mention that you can actually choose your gun in pf unlike arsenal?) so pf is open to more strategies like rushing with a fast firing gun, camping with a sniper and medium range combat with assault rifles. meanwhile in arsenal, you are given a random gun which changes every time you kill a person or the timer runs out in randomised mode. this makes Strat making almost impossible.
@AutoSemiMatic hmm. then i think im describing it wrong. maybe its the unbalanced-ness of arsenal? some guns re plain outclassed by others in arsenal allowing for quick kills?
Fun fact about arsenal!: if you get a lot of kills without trying that means the enemy is normal, and if the enemy killing you multiple times and you try killing him without trying and fail that means the enemy is an tryhard
You say phantom forces takes skill over paying to win, when you can buy any weapon in the game and shred the lobby in half a second in phantom. In addition to this, phantom takes No skill, just a good gun you can buy with money and your soul. Arsenal is a fair, balanced skill based game. Get your mid opinion off the internet.
@Kylix_XXD jumping and shooting is reasonable, no attachments, few guns have scopes, gameplay is click and shoot, way more pay to win, guns are very imbalanced. In PH, a vast majority of guns, especially the starter guns, can be equally as good or even better than rarer guns, firing actually takes skill to hit properly and well.
in my opinion, I think one of the main reasons why arsenal is more popular than phantom forces in players Is probably because since it is a lot more simpler compared to phantom forces, like different stats for different attachments etc. It is also very colorful and since most of the Roblox fanbase is 9 year olds with the attention span of a gold fish cracker, it would be obviously more interesting for them. Since most of arsenal players are very young children that just spam buttons It is also a bit easier in general in my opinion. There are also many other reasons but I think these are some of the main reasons.(I personally prefer pf/phantom forces).
btw I used to play this a lot when I was younger and absolutely loved it since it was so colorful compared to phantom forces and I actually got kills since the guns were so easy to use. etc
Nah thats just wrong ngl Pf is based off battlefield they said it themselves And while rolve says arsenal is based off cs it has basically 0 similarities
"No special movement" the jump sliding in PF is the fast way to move there,and in arsenal, you can press q to switch to melee then jump and press q again and maintain the momentum. You go a lot faster
"And I thought Phantom Forces had overpowered shotguns." PF shotguns need to be nerfed. When I can get one-shot wallbanged by a shotgun from 100 studs, there's a problem.
Arsenal: chaotic fun. Thats just it. Arsenal is simple and the guns are op. The movement is nice but predicable. And that chaos is so fun, especially when you manage to get high killstreaks
One of the good things that makes arsenal better is that you dont need to grind for 20000 hours for an attachment, and don’t get me started on a new gun
Ima just guess its the simplicity that lets Arsenal stand out, in PF u gotta like look at every weappons stats and makr a setup, in Arsenal its just Deploy and go.
As a Phantom Forces player on break and quitter of Arsenal, Arsenal is a good game. Its just different from Phantom Forces and I don't see why people are treating it like its a competition. Both games are unique in all ways.
As a phantom forces player... The reason i (and many others) play phantom forces is because it feels "Tactical", the weapons are satisfying to fire, there's a community cultured around it mainly of good things and people coming together to shit on bad people like toxic players and cheaters. They also do a lot of fanservice and make weapons that are just made to be funny, on *top* of the regular more serious weapons. They also do a lot of historical weapons justice and allow a ton of customizability, which is a big thing for games like tarkov. You can put a sniper scope on a pistol. Why? Because why not! The reason i do not play or like arsenal is not out of malice or hate or salt that it's more popular than PF, it's because it simply isn't my type. It's a more random, cartoonish game with less focus on customizability and mainly only hipfiring, less tactical feel, less strategy feel, and the movement is too fast for players like me, to the point where the skill ceiling is so high that an inexperienced player + roblox's inability to allow for matchmaking properly = Unfair-feeling matches where it's regular people walking with a gun, versus tryhard McGee over there bhopping like a mad man and devastating a lobby. Sure, in PF, people end up with more movement as they gain experience too, but it still remains more fair. They can jump around corners? So can you. Arsenal doesn't have that as easily, and while the hitsounds are absolutely amazing, and the announcer is definitely a fun addition, the weapons do not offer the same "tacticool" feel of PF's weapons, and the animations for reload and firing feel too chipper and upbeat for a weapon of killing like a G36C or an AK12. The reason some people prefer PF more is because it feels "Tacticool" and they want that, not cartoony. When players like us want a middle ground, we don't go to arsenal, we go to TF2, or if you're really old, Base wars 2.
As a kid I was normally just a regular player who would get highest kills in some round, playing phatom forces teaches me the hyperbole of arsenal which is really annoying for too much sweats.
How do u not know what a kill effect is It is when a player dies, (for example, your kill effect is knifes) then the player who dies will die with the “knife” animation
![State of Play | September 24, 2024 [ENGLISH]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/fVs0suPHAX8/mqdefault.jpg)
Yes before you ask this is my way of branching out to other FPS Games on the roblox platform. Expect similar videos to this one in the future :)
Phantom forces used to have at one point 30k players online, the game needs more new players. (The new update will be coming out soon so I think it will go from 6k players to 10k players online, just like the pacific cold front did)
Sick vid, i think if you make more content like this one, you will do really good 👍🙃👍
Can you try arsenals brother: Typical Colours 2?
Roblos
try bad business, its something like phantom forces and arsenal merged together.
if you do, try to play on the soviet square map.
theres a phantom forces reference in the middle of the map
"How am I supposed to reach the other side of the map in 3 seconds?"
Bad Business has you covered in that aspect.
Press (c) to slide in *AIR*
@@angeljumptv5470 yes.
I heavily dislike the direction bad business took, I really liked it back when it was still pretty new and stuff was simple
Still a good game just not my cup of tea
Every surface in Bad Business is so slippery give the janitor a raise🙏🙏
@@nesyboi9421 yeah, when I first played it, the M14 was absolutely busted. Like you could fire a few times down a choke point and you'd kill someone. Also this was back when the only attachments you could use were optics, and nothing else.
I love how he goes from 40 to 8265 points as soon as he realizes there's a melee case
You mean battle bucks
@@egoDH you mean blow bucks
No battle bucks@@dinosharttt
@@dinosharttt you mean job bucks
@@IraSquid you mean v-bucks?
3:00 started to sound like a sponsor lol
true
"Does this game have any special movement at all?"
*instantly uses the knife to run faster mechanic*
@AutoSemiMatic the knife is the fastest moving weapon to my knowledge
@AutoSemiMatic you wouldn't instantly figure it out when trying out arsenal
@@Anarqism you would, it applies to most fps games, in phantom forces you can have different meles which give different movement speed (and same for guns) such as fists and karambit giving higher movementspeeds than regular mele
wait until this guy finds out that arsenal is literally just a ripoff of CS:GO and PF is literally just a ripoff of COD lol
@@Stegolution you're saying roblox isn't fully original??!!! 🤯🤯🤯
‘Can’t get the hang of it’
Him in the background: *going on a killing spree*
"Concussion mania is becoming my favourite"
Every Arsenal player coming after you now
Apparently after me too
I hate concussion mania
Concussion mania Is just the "haha funni rocket jump mode"
Bruh concussion is nerfed so badly and I hate it
It explodes so it needs higher damage
Arsenal for me is something I can pick up and mess around on for a while but it gets repetitive pretty quick since it's always gun game. And this is coming from a PF player. 💀
EDIT: Nice vid, keep it up! 🎉
Arsenal is just for a quick little matches,like 3-5 rounds and thats enough mostly for entire day
Cool
Yo its the man who plays PF with his feet.
steven why do I get a gay vibe from your voice
@@sleed4639 maybe because youre gay
4:35 says the phantom forces player
Cry about it
Average Arsenal enjoyer:
average idiotic diehard arsenal fan
Hinestly, I used to play arsenal throughout 2020 and early 2021 but I quit due to the community becoming more toxic each day, the 3 same gamemodes being played all the time with others neglected, making the game more repetetive and the new guns being blatant copies of older weapons with just the model changed.
Edit: 69 likes *N I C E*
also i didnt switch from pf to arsenal for a few hours just to see the same gun models from pf
Don’t get me started with the hackers bro
Pf is worse in terms of community
@@glimpse5038 since most youtuber quitted arsenal, there's of course would be less children in the arsenal community, well i wouldnt say the community is better than pf or so the other way around
@@glimpse5038 I have to agree, but I feel like the arsenal situation is more sad since I saw the community decline into a toxic wasteland with my own eyes, since I played it in what turned out to be the era when the community became toxic
3:40 Moon complains about movements while someone in front of him breaks the law of gravity
When I first tried phantom forces, I had the exact opposite opinion. I repeatedly got clapped by experienced players in close quarters maps with no time to even react
Same everyone is so good the game is not even enjoyable for new players
@@bIuecap This is what I think makes Arsenal more popular, less complicated, more "calm" and easier for a rookie to get into, you don't need to grind levels to get weapons and stuff. Overall, PF needs you to invest time into it to get the good stuff (unless you pay money to get the cheesed guns) whereas in Arsenal it's just train your combat and you're good to go.
you need skills thats why. also if you play phantom forces you need to be alert and look around. as a lvl 200+ level thats all I can say
@@rodolfo9876a Not much training with hit scan weapons and no recoil on most guns, but the recoil part goes for PF too lmao. Arsenal is definitely easier and more fun for newer people but it is way more mindless of a game to play and doesn't have a lot of satisfaction IMO.
@@heroruian3198 Yeah
1:52 royale high music
For those who don't know what the concussion rifle is based on, it is based on the DeLisle Carbine rifle.
Which isn’t actually explosive in real life
thanks for letting us know that you know it
4:25 in arsenal there actually is a way to bhop but it's very finnicky and is dependent on you having somewhat high ping (around 120 I think) and might've been patched
As expected from the makers of Counterblox, always finding ways to make your gameplay enjoyable
in my opinion Arsenal is distinct from most shooters in general for being a more arcade-like pick up and play experience. its just chaotic and ridiculous for the sake of it, and i think its good to play to wind down from more serious games
If you like arcade games play Ragdoll Universe
@@Kevici that game is so much fun
no me bouncing and forth between only these two games and being so confused when I can’t throw a grenade or scope in arsenal
Hi Moon FPS Studio, your video was absolutely amazing! What I agree that Phantom Forces should take from is the Melee case and the gun rotation. Gun rotation is basically the same thing in Phantom Forces, but phantom forces describes gun rotation as gun game, making it more diverse on that topic when including a more variety of guns, suppressors, and sights. I enjoy gun game more than I do in Arsenal gun rotation as it it brings a more unique feel to the game! Let's hope that Stylis considers and watch this video!
bro left a review
“Wow how are you so strong?”
“Every time I disagree with him I do 1 push up”
“Oh.”
Everybody: *talking which is better*
Him: “I’m gonna try Arsenal”
Also him: *looks through previously played*
i actually laughed at the russian anthem in 1:41 lmfao
This is so good timing, I’ve been playing arsenal for almost a month now, because PF is just boring atm, and I just gotta say it’s pretty fun and the fast pace is just so satisfying
4:48 got wolfy playz vibes out of nowhere bc of the music xD, nice vid btw!!!
lol
Bro started flying- 3:49
As an Arsenal player I feel uncomfortable watching this
Aimblox is better 😊
@@BreadGood_21 princess tycoon better
@TheOfficialMusicGenix bro that is so true
Bro somehow played better than me playing for 1 year
this is actually really cool to see how a newer player comes on and what they think about arsenal, ive always complained about why people vote for gamemodes that i hated as a more og player now but this tells me a lot LOL
Want more of a challenge in arsenal? There's a whole community around extremely skill based gameplay, this can range from 2v2s, to scrimmages, to tournaments and more.
And trust me, everyone that plays these are extremely good. If you want to check that out, lmk, ill help you get in there :)
so either play against kids or people who play only arsenal
@@swolzer well yeah lol thats just any roblox game
I wouldnt mind trying it out for a bit lol, can you hlep me get in? I like to consider myself pretty good...
@@SnowMexicann Join acl or ash discord server. They host 2v2s and 3v3s there against REALLY REALLY good players. Before i quit the game i would get DESTROYED there. Even tho i was level 450 (i know level doesn't mean skill blablabla)
how do i enter tournaments?
Moon, I'll be genuine with you; as 2016's top 4 in Phantom Forces, I can agree the lack of skill with Arsenal. I have also been banned for "hacking".
Arsenal vs PF is like Quake vs CSGO
One's pure aiming capabilities,
The other uses a lot more mechanics and strategies with some aim.
But both are rlly good games imo
Honestly, something like this about Bad Business would be a banger as well.
bad business used to be good
I like bad buisness I don't die aa much as pf in it
Ah yes. The game where characters are smokin weed to move at the speed of light
@@MrVal05 ironic since the movement was nerfed
"THATS SO UNFAIR"
proceeds to kill entire lobby
As a fellow Arsenal player, i’d say that this is typical when people switch to Arsenal. And most people doesn’t even check anything, just click “deploy”, and start enjoying pain and struggle.
edit: wow thank you for the heart
YOU EDITED AND LOST IT
@@nemec7914 D I S A S T E R
be a sebee fan you’ll understand
*jesus and I thought phantom forces had bad spawns*
That had me rolling for 10 mins straight
bro said "theyre trying to sell me stuff" after clicking on the shop.
0:01 where did you get that training bayonet?
@@lyd4335 2 years later and here's your answer. You can get it from any case
Moon: "I can't get the hang of it"
Also Moon: *plays better than me*
How it feels like to play concussion rifles 6:46
I quit playing both Arsenal and Phantom forces and moved to Trench: Beta and was considering quitting Roblox because of the bad updates and moving to Enlisted
Classic case of a serious shooter vs an arcade shooter. Arsenal's gunplay takes less skill because that's how it was made.
7:42 Potassium Bonnet TF2
Moon: Phantom forces
subtitles: Front of horses
The word every phantom forces player is looking for their game: UNDERRATED
I actually started on arsenal, but then I discovered pf and I was like "woah, this is literally so much better wtf" but I still play arsenal often because it is a very high ttk game and encourages 2 minute fast paced CQC battles instead of 10 min strategic pf.
same but i switched to phantom forces because pf isnt as mindless and it has a older fanbase, plus people in arsenal just spam
"strategic"
@@acethemain7776 well, compared to arsenal, pf has a larger map size by a lot and more classes of guns (did I mention that you can actually choose your gun in pf unlike arsenal?) so pf is open to more strategies like rushing with a fast firing gun, camping with a sniper and medium range combat with assault rifles. meanwhile in arsenal, you are given a random gun which changes every time you kill a person or the timer runs out in randomised mode. this makes Strat making almost impossible.
@AutoSemiMatic it's higher ttk than of cos most guns can 2 or 3 tap with no damage falloff unlike arsenal
@AutoSemiMatic hmm. then i think im describing it wrong. maybe its the unbalanced-ness of arsenal? some guns re plain outclassed by others in arsenal allowing for quick kills?
I played this game a lot with a consent KDR and win ratio, and I already learned more in the first 6 minutes than I did in practice mode
4:44 THATS ME
Unfair
@@jeromearceusmeme5862 i tough he was a random 9 yr old
@@Lunarsunking lol
Arsenal feels like an arena type tf2 but without special perks
As I played Arsenal, it was really enjoyable truly you don't need to sweat just to win. I just hate that there are multiple cheaters in the game.
Theres a cheater in like 1 out of 4 servers
@@brickandmortar7 weird, i almost never find hackers.
There are also cheaters in PF
@@brickandmortar7 I never find hackers at all, what kind of server you on?
@@user-ig1yu2xm8uskis i havent played the game in months lol
Ain’t no way 10 seconds into the video and I see him trying to shoot a man through multiple inches of concrete.
If tanqr for some reason comes back to arsenal just run for your life
And then prepare your lunch cuz salt is gonna be huge
Phantom Forces player discovers fun (2022, colorized)
Fun fact about arsenal!: if you get a lot of kills without trying that means the enemy is normal, and if the enemy killing you multiple times and you try killing him without trying and fail that means the enemy is an tryhard
My only problem is the lack of recoil. I could pepper an airborne enemy and they’d be the first corpse to the moon.
One other thing is on arsenal there is mobile support which will increase the amount of players unlike phantom forces which is only available for pc
i love how you complain about unrealistic movement in a lego game
It's been exactly 2 years since this was posted
You say phantom forces takes skill over paying to win, when you can buy any weapon in the game and shred the lobby in half a second in phantom. In addition to this, phantom takes No skill, just a good gun you can buy with money and your soul. Arsenal is a fair, balanced skill based game. Get your mid opinion off the internet.
and the worst take award goes to
@Kylix_XXD jumping and shooting is reasonable, no attachments, few guns have scopes, gameplay is click and shoot, way more pay to win, guns are very imbalanced. In PH, a vast majority of guns, especially the starter guns, can be equally as good or even better than rarer guns, firing actually takes skill to hit properly and well.
I came to phantom forces FROM arsenal, took so long of a break that I went from top 100 arsenal to not being able to get 3rd place in a match
Phantom forces players trying out Arsenal is like CoD players trying out Team Fortress 2, they are obviously going to hate it.
in my opinion, I think one of the main reasons why arsenal is more popular than phantom forces in players Is probably because since it is a lot more simpler compared to phantom forces, like different stats for different attachments etc. It is also very colorful and since most of the Roblox fanbase is 9 year olds with the attention span of a gold fish cracker, it would be obviously more interesting for them. Since most of arsenal players are very young children that just spam buttons It is also a bit easier in general in my opinion. There are also many other reasons but I think these are some of the main reasons.(I personally prefer pf/phantom forces).
btw I used to play this a lot when I was younger and absolutely loved it since it was so colorful compared to phantom forces and I actually got kills since the guns were so easy to use. etc
i hate arsenal too
it's like fortnite
But boring af
Just play CS:GO bruh
csgo is different lol
CS:GO is shutdown bro
Team Fortress 2, not Counter-Strike
@@henonicks counter strike is better
Arsenal and cs2 have almost nothing in common.
Arsenal is just simple and more fun to play while pf is super complicated
"i wish phantom foces had overpowered guns" the aa 12 at the same time 0_0
Man, you turned into a god within watching a video of a pro winning a game- me: still is trash-
Guess we traded games
As a Bad Business player, I have no idea what the deal with phantom forces or arsenal is, thank you for playing this for me so I don’t have to.
It must be weird for pf players to not grind for 200 hours to get a middle rank gun
phantom forces is based off cod and arsenal is based of csgo
Nah thats just wrong ngl
Pf is based off battlefield they said it themselves
And while rolve says arsenal is based off cs it has basically 0 similarities
@@CrackedMB for arsenal, its based off counter strike "arms race"
"No special movement" the jump sliding in PF is the fast way to move there,and in arsenal, you can press q to switch to melee then jump and press q again and maintain the momentum. You go a lot faster
"And I thought Phantom Forces had overpowered shotguns." PF shotguns need to be nerfed. When I can get one-shot wallbanged by a shotgun from 100 studs, there's a problem.
"bro what is this" this man just cause a war against the monke
As a Arsenal and PF player, it was funny watching you think the credits werent free
i dont even wanna imagine what he would think of combat warriors
Arsenal: chaotic fun.
Thats just it. Arsenal is simple and the guns are op. The movement is nice but predicable. And that chaos is so fun, especially when you manage to get high killstreaks
When i see the thumb i already said "haha the trickshot simulator"
plot twist: he ditches pf and plays arsenal for 80 hours non sleep
Imagine you get killed by a bfg user and then they just default dance on you
Kinda wish phantom forces had contracts. Only way to make money rn is to rank up or open crates and sell whatever you get inside
Arsenal is more sweaty with people ending you in 0.5 seconds with a toilet roll when you have a rpg
One of the good things that makes arsenal better is that you dont need to grind for 20000 hours for an attachment, and don’t get me started on a new gun
As an entry point player I see it’s an absolute win
i like that there is a little reference to PF in one of the announcers
The devs are onto something : ❌
Devs are on something : ✅
I'll make it simple
Arsenal= personal aim trainer
Phantom Forces= personal bhop
Ima just guess its the simplicity that lets Arsenal stand out, in PF u gotta like look at every weappons stats and makr a setup, in Arsenal its just Deploy and go.
I honestly think it’s a compatibility thing, since you can play it on mobile. Personally as a mobile player I would love to play phantom
As a Phantom Forces player on break and quitter of Arsenal, Arsenal is a good game.
Its just different from Phantom Forces and I don't see why people are treating it like its a competition.
Both games are unique in all ways.
As a phantom forces player...
The reason i (and many others) play phantom forces is because it feels "Tactical", the weapons are satisfying to fire, there's a community cultured around it mainly of good things and people coming together to shit on bad people like toxic players and cheaters. They also do a lot of fanservice and make weapons that are just made to be funny, on *top* of the regular more serious weapons. They also do a lot of historical weapons justice and allow a ton of customizability, which is a big thing for games like tarkov. You can put a sniper scope on a pistol. Why? Because why not!
The reason i do not play or like arsenal is not out of malice or hate or salt that it's more popular than PF, it's because it simply isn't my type. It's a more random, cartoonish game with less focus on customizability and mainly only hipfiring, less tactical feel, less strategy feel, and the movement is too fast for players like me, to the point where the skill ceiling is so high that an inexperienced player + roblox's inability to allow for matchmaking properly = Unfair-feeling matches where it's regular people walking with a gun, versus tryhard McGee over there bhopping like a mad man and devastating a lobby.
Sure, in PF, people end up with more movement as they gain experience too, but it still remains more fair. They can jump around corners? So can you. Arsenal doesn't have that as easily, and while the hitsounds are absolutely amazing, and the announcer is definitely a fun addition, the weapons do not offer the same "tacticool" feel of PF's weapons, and the animations for reload and firing feel too chipper and upbeat for a weapon of killing like a G36C or an AK12.
The reason some people prefer PF more is because it feels "Tacticool" and they want that, not cartoony. When players like us want a middle ground, we don't go to arsenal, we go to TF2, or if you're really old, Base wars 2.
I laughed so hard when you said the BFG is unbalenced and way to op, it's so true though
Arsenal was probably my favourite game on roblox. I literally spent hours every day playing.
Same
As a kid I was normally just a regular player who would get highest kills in some round, playing phatom forces teaches me the hyperbole of arsenal which is really annoying for too much sweats.
When a phantom forces player grows up they start playing arsenal
what are the bundles? *calmly* oh jesus christ-
"bundles what are bundles oh jesus christ"
luckily the knife kills one shot so that does suck that much now
How do u not know what a kill effect is
It is when a player dies, (for example, your kill effect is knifes) then the player who dies will die with the “knife” animation
I m average arsenal player and when he said concussion mania is becoming my favorite ı was like NOOOOOOOO
In arsenal we dont care about fair, we care about be alive inside of house, full of shoors and bullets
did anyone realise how he had 8B when he was looking at cases and the next second he had 8295B