Thank you so much for this. Just recently did the head gasket in my 04 civic lx and had the exact same oil leak in mine. Happy to see someone sharing the knowledge and helping others save a little cash in the process.
You literally just helped all d17’s where you think it’s the oil pan leaking 😂. Exactly the same thing happened to me and I was pissed to still see a oil leak after doing the oil pan gasket. Sadly I will need to open it all back up again to take care of this.
lol well I'm so glad that i made the vid because it was a pain in my A** lol so i was thinking that i don't want anyone to go through years chasing their tails, wasting money and time like i did. its not so easy to get to nor is it fun lmao.
@@BillyBob-op6lgaye bro look at it like this, you get a fresh timing belt and water pump thats gonna last longer, however if you just bought them very recently just reuse them
Good looking out bud. I think it could be a thing that most people have the same happen. My civic is got about 180 on it and it's having the same issue
Wow right on. Yup me too. Replaced crank/cam seals re-sealed oil pan. Mine wasn't leaking to bad either so I lost interest in finding the leak. 1 year later and it's pouring out. I was just looking for the diagram of re-re oil pump when I came across your vid. Thank you for making this video.
I have been looking for this leak for months and cant find it. I thought it was the right top corner of my gasket but it was leaking to much and couldn’t tell from where. You saved me bro. I have an 05 with the leak in the same spot.
Oh my god. This has to be my problem. I redid my oil pan gasket twice, still leaked. Then lead me to believe it was the crankshaft seal so I was going to do that next, but where the oil was getting on, it makes perfect sense it's this oil seal. Been battling this for so long. Thank you so much.
Twice? Consider yourself lucky, I’ve changed mine several times like 4 until finally I’m like there’s no way, cus I thought maybe warped pan? I used the right stuff silicone maker and it’s still leaking so now I know no way it’s that, also my crank seal is new so can’t be that
@@BillyBob-op6lgYes, unfortunately it was only twice audio people. I see had changed things multiple times for years. So why was lucky to find it with a snake camera
NICE! Yeah I've been leaking too. It's not enough for me to worry to much about it. But it's there none-the-less. But I do know it's coming from behind that cover. Your video makes a lot of sense to me. Thank you!!
Not going to lie totally forgot about that seal... Ive been chasing this damn leak for sometime now and came across your video... Everything you stated is the same tihs im dealing with... Just got around to replacing it... We shall see once this Hondabond dries. Thanks again... I see its an old video but i gotta give you your flowers!
What year is your Civic? My 2000 Civic has an oil leak, it’s splattered in the same location. I’m due for a new timing belt and water pump. So I wanna get the engine tight.
minds was a 98, but 2000 should be the same oil pump if it not leaking from the crank seal then its the oil pump which will be more work to get to it, but will be worth it to resealing.
😮 wish I saw this a while ago just did a couple of bearings and a timing set nd yeah she leaking....so much effort haha oh well hopefully it goes smoothly this time thanks man
All Hondas have this leak in time because the O ring is not that good and the oil is under pressure, But tends not to leak around the crank seal because there is a small vacuum inside the oil pan from the PCV.
Wow this has been bugging me for years. Even a mechanic couldn’t find the problem until I went to another auto shop told me about a oil pump seal. I replace all kinds of crap and still oil dripping problem. 2003 civic. Thank you
I wish I would have seen this video earlier. My mom had her crank shaft seal replaced on her 04 Civic and she still had oil leaks. Long story short she had to pay double because they had to replace the oil pump seal.
just bought 2000 civic 210,000 miles on it. Engine is strong and no smoking after deceleration then pedal to the metal . But a ton of leaking drops under the entire length of oil pan. Changed oil and topped off to full mark.. 600 miles later, had to add 2 fulls quarts to just under full mark. Wondering if this might be the oil seal problem your video describes or an camshaft/crankshaft/oil pump shaft seal, rear seal and or oil pan gasket? I expect to do the repairs myself. Honda dealer is quoting 1450 plus tax. I am experienced in OHC and muscle engines. Just would like to know most likely fix because I know ordering full kit will be cheaper in long run than one thing at a time plus shipping. However, ordering a full repair kit and using just a couple of parts is a waste of money. Thanks for any input.
i would start with start with cleaning everything fully top of all fluids and with everything dried with help of a tone of brake clean i would start the car for about 2 min trun off and look to see from top to bottom where any leaks are starting from. that how i would do it.
@@ElvinBryant Thank you for the tip. I planned to do a pressure wash on everything the nozzle will spray. Then drive it a few miles and do a through check. I forgot to mention, I am doing a timing belt replacement since last one was recorded 122,000 miles. Thinking as long as the oil pump will be already exposed, I would do the replacement although I was not planning on the extra labor when I decided to change timing belt. 2#. I thought I saw a gasket available for the back of oil pump but unable to find one. Is RTV the only way to go. I hate Gasket maker
sprayed as much of the engine and top of transmission case as possible with degreaser. Let sit. Power washed everything in sight. Let dry, then air hosed around gaskets and possible oil leak areas above the top of transmission. Ran car 10 minutes. NO LEAKS but started smelling oil fumes and some light smoke from the exhaust pipe. Drove it 4 miles. Still no leaks above transmission. I just lost 1 1/2 quarts of oil and drove just 166 miles. Something tells me I also have a rear main seal problem and I am not in the position to take on that task.
This must be what is leaking on my Honda Civic since I've already had the head gasket, valve cover gasket, oil pan gasket, and crankshaft seals replaced. Thanks for the video.
if this is the same for a 2005 D17A2, this helps ALOT.. To bad i thought it was the crank seal. I tore down to it, did crank seal, oil pan seal, timing belt, and water pump 3 weeks ago. It's still dumping oil from the back of the engine. I guess i get to do it again. Thank you for the great information.
vuduchildx I am currently experiencing the same with my 2003 Honda Civic. I don’t have the luxury of tearing down the motor. Would this be pricey to pay to have done?
Ye just watched your video as well. I got the same problem on my d17a2 motor. Running the engine as we speak for 3 hours and can not find the leak. Nope it ain't the crank seal and hope it ain't that cam seal. I will just change the oil pump seal and see what happens after that. I am putting oil every week now lol. It's getting worse.
Nana kwabiah What you need to do is wash the whole engine down with some type of Degreesing stuff then when everything dries started up for 3 minutes turn it off and look for the oil leak it always comes from the highest point
Thanks, wish i would have seen this earlier.Just did the exact same thing,crank seal, oil pan gasket,valve cover gasket,black seal on the right side of engine,LOL now I get to pull the oil pan off again. Thanks for the video.
2005 civic myself, and I'm pretty sure you pinpoint my issue. Already changed my head gaskets. I always dred going under that hood.. It's worse than a micro itx computer!
I thought it was the crankshaft seal and I was going to change it again but decided to remove the timing belt covers and hook all sensors back up and run it to see where it was coming from…eureka! I wasn’t sure how to remove oil pump so I found your video, I was contemplating removing studs on bottom side of oil pump that go through the oil pan so I didn’t have to remove the oil pan. Was going to double nut the studs and see if they come out but I think I’ll follow your lead and remove the pan. Thank you! I have a 01 Civic, 1.7L, lost nearly 2 qts oil if I drive on long trip…350 miles but if I drove around town I could go 600-800 miles before I needed to add oil
I am so glad that you will willing to get it fixed. That is one of the problems with the oil pump that the majority of the people keep replacing things around it. But I'm glad that you are able to fix it..
ELVIN_EJ6_EK, very intensive labor jobs that is not worth paying money at the shop. Many that I have known and told clients, "you don't want to repair the oil leaks for $2,500+" Very common on Ferrari cars where clients are willing pay me beyond $54,000.00. Its almost like an engine overhaul jobs. I've asked because Honda really screwed big time on Civic designed. Try doing removing nuts & bolts in the rear suspensions. Always got to chop & cut holes. I tell people just place a cat litter box under the engine. And don't buy Starbucks coffee in the morning, but oil in the morning. ATG says & taught that at the overhaul racing & tuning classes.
Great video. I told multiple garages that this was where it was leaking and they said no it was not leaking there. Orings DO wear out and get brittle with age. Thanks!
Did you have to replace the pump or just replace that gasket? I have the same issue and I have been putting it on hold for almost two years. Finally wanna fix it.
Its an oil relief valve. Oil pressure goes up with engine RPM, that spring compresses and allows oil to bypass it and flow back into the oil pan. You should never shim it. if it gets caught and stuck you will lose oil flow. When pressure goes up flow goes down after it reaches a certain level. You will starve the engine of oil if you increase the pressure too much. The pressure relief valve is there to ensure that there isn't too much pressure so flow doesn't become restricted. You aren't increasing oil pressure output of the pump by doing that. The pump at 2k rpm with the valve or no valve is always going to put out a constant amount of oil pressure. The only difference is now all that pressure builds up and the oil gets stuck instead of having anywhere to flow. So you will pop that seal like a balloon or starve the engine of oil. If you want higher oil pressure you HAVE to use a oil pump designed to produce more oil pressure.
would help more if you put what year and engine that is. I bet its my problem as well as the oil pan gasket that always leaks on 92-95 civics. don't know why? but thanx...
Bro thank you so much for this video, replaced the oil pan gasket on my gf's 02' civic D17A with 280k miles and it's still leaking on the front side of the engine dipping off the oil pan bolts and seaping around the whole oil pump. Just did the timing belt and water pump so it'll be a bitch having to go back in but it needs to be done. Thanks for the oil pressure trick as well!
Thanks a lot. What parts you have to remove to access the oil pump in 2003 civic lx D17A1 engie? I m a going to do a head job and while I m in there I want to check the timing belt w. Pump as so on. I have this oil leak for two years now.
Since you are already in that area you will have to take off some bolts on the oil pan and and removes the alternator then you can take off to oil pump.
Bro You have no idea how much headache you saved me. I recently replace all my seals. Valve cover, oil pan, cam shaft, crankshaft, pcv breather box, and distributor seals. Only to find a oil leak some where around that area you mentioned. I'm not gonna worry about it now but ima buy the seal for when the time comes.
Jay C I work at Honda so that's was my best bet I rather use quality o-ring for something that deep I didnt ever want to take that back off in any near future cuz the cheap o-ring for some other place couldn't handle temp chances. Hope that made sence.
My 2002 ex just started a mayor immediate leak . I turn it on and just drips like crazy I have to take a look to see wtf is wrong. I just did an oil change yesterday and it was all good and just 30 mins ago oil all over the floor and looks like its coming from @ timming belt/water pump area. I'm lucky I have another vehicle I can use for now. 😟
Is there only that small o ring to replace .? When part looking notcied there are a couple others ? Should i worry about those ? Thanks for the video just did my whole oil pan and gasket and the drip is right there 🤙🏼
Hey man. Thanks for making this video. I have changed my crank seal, cam seal, oil pan gasket and thinking maybe I got bad crank seal. But now I know it’s behind the oil pump. Lol
Fyi: my oil leak was from the crankshaft seal, even after replacing it with a new one. Had to buy a redisleeve to go over the crankshaft. My crankshaft was worn down and still letting oil get by.
bro lokoks I have the same issue. Can't find the oil leak but it's coming from exactly where you are describing. I changed the oil pan gasket, valve cover gasket, cam seal but its still leaking. Used a stop leak sealant but didn't do any damn thing. I lose about close a quarter of oil every 3000 mile. Lose more if the engine runs for longer and under load. It's been close to two years and but the leak is not to bad so I am not fixing it.
I hope people come to you before they replace their oil pan and put everything back together, to still find their car leaking oil. Like me. Oh well, you live and you learn!
Yes. The oil pump needs to be taken off. The crankshaft goes through the oil pump, and to get the oil pump off you need to remove the timing belt. Might as well get a new timing belt kit since you will be taking it off.
A little late here.... but it looks like my Civic’s oil spill pattern... two drops about 4 inches apart left side of the block ( under and before before the driver seat .. any help is appreciated.
Nice one mate got to this yesterday on 2002 honda stream with D17A2 engine o ring and crankshaft seal both brittle 👍 also have a slight drip on gearbox housing which i think is vtec solenoid from above
would help more if you put what year and engine that is. I bet its my problem as well as the oil pan gasket that always leaks on 92-95 civics. don't know why? but thanx...
I have a very slow leak from the timing belt area also. Recently I changed the timing belt, tensioner, crank seal but it still leaks sometimes. It's not a big leak cuz I don't see anything on the driveway ...what could it be?
2 things a can be the oil Pan all the pump o-ring as in the video. If you have a mirror clean right above the alternator bracket and start the engine and see if it starts to leak from their that is the o-ring area.
Thanks for the feedback .... Honda dealer wants $900 to do this repair, F a bunch of that noise. W After watching your vid, and with the help of a case (or two) of Keystone Light, I'll attempt to tackle it over a weekend. Thank you for sharing the video and your explanation.
I'm glad it helped you also Upgrading the all pressure is only 4 Turbo or supercharger application if it's on a stock car when your are at a stoplight the car may stall or idle low.
oh i was thinking use it in my std car, i got a problem with the oil pressure, have 6psi in idle and 36psi at 3000rpm and i just checked everything except the oil pump
Took apart all of it 4 times before I found this video, then 2 times before I got it right lol but it should work this next time I need to wait til tomorrow so the gasket sealer has time to cure. Awesome video!
xX Xx yea it was hard for me to find but I was glade a had a snake camera that's how I found where it was coming from.. it's a lot of work just for that small o-ring lol
@@angelisone The honda civic and D series engines are some of the best deisigned car's and engines of all time. .. My gf's 2002 civic lx 4door 5spd has 280k miles on it and i've only had to replace the clutch, head gasket, and timing belt that's it. Original engine and trans, say that about any other car... Also if you learn to work on cars yourself you can do this entire job and be good for another 20 years with one sundays worth of work. Just my 2 cents 👍
Waffeey, after 2000, those engines are little better. But then, Honda (all companies) cuts corners for not having good coat of paint. Have seen Audi, BMW & Porsche have orange peeled paint after 6 years.
Tony EC you can rent the special tool from your auto parts store they well I give your back the money once you return the part ... get a 19mm socket a half inche foot and a half extension with a long long handle breaker bar or if you have a half inche ratchet and a Hollow long metal pie you can put that to extend the ratchet handle and put a jack stand under the middle of the extension b4 you try to break the nut and it will be so easy with the right tools... Good lock buddy.
ELVIN_EJ6_EK good info i have been chasing this leak for 2 years did the front main seal last week and sheared of a 1/2 extension i think i am going to get a 3/4 Thank you
Noah either that or crank and or cam seals you should not be losing that much on just the pump... Or check the bolts on the timing cover some of them go into the block. hope that helps.
Noah what probably happen is that it may be was leaking from the oil pan Which decrease the oil pressure now that you fix the oil pan with a new gasket the oil pressure increased now is spring more from that area where you need to replace the oil pump seal or as I said it might be a bolt or your camshaft seal or crankshaft seal
@@ElvinBryant I know this comment is 3 years old but I still stumbled across it, so to prevent future viewers from being mis-informed: The oil pan has nothing to do with the oil pressure, it just holds the oil. The pressure in the oiling system comes from the clearances, ports, and galleys that the oil flows through. The oil pump just creates flow, not pressure. Also, although I give you credit and understand your thinking about it, the timing cover bolts that go into the block, yes they go into the block, but they do not go through the casting completely into the crankcase so they would never be able to leak oil. If every bolt hole put into a block casting went all the way through you would never be able to 100% seal the crankcase.
Thank you so much for this. Just recently did the head gasket in my 04 civic lx and had the exact same oil leak in mine. Happy to see someone sharing the knowledge and helping others save a little cash in the process.
Me too. This is literally the only seal I didn't replace.
Thank you for this. After a new oil pan gasket this morning, I still have that single drop of oil drip exactly as you described.
OMG I think you're describing my current mysterious oil leak! THANK YOU!
Christine Wills so glad I can help someone else cuz it was driving me crazy for years even thou I knew where it was lol
i lost maybe a full litre of oil over the span of a few months. and all because of that? hallejuah! im excited to fix it :)
Christine Wills and what's funny it's about a $6 O-ring
Thanks man I've been looking all over you tube and I believe this bbn is my problem thank you again my friend
You literally just helped all d17’s where you think it’s the oil pan leaking 😂. Exactly the same thing happened to me and I was pissed to still see a oil leak after doing the oil pan gasket. Sadly I will need to open it all back up again to take care of this.
lol well I'm so glad that i made the vid because it was a pain in my A** lol so i was thinking that i don't want anyone to go through years chasing their tails, wasting money and time like i did. its not so easy to get to nor is it fun lmao.
I just did my timing belt and water pump not too long again 🤦🏻♂️ so disassemble again just for this?? Ughhhh
@@BillyBob-op6lgaye bro look at it like this, you get a fresh timing belt and water pump thats gonna last longer, however if you just bought them very recently just reuse them
@@BillyBob-op6lgbut yeah fuck getting off the crank , look up weight sockets them shits break crank bolts like butter
Good looking out bud. I think it could be a thing that most people have the same happen. My civic is got about 180 on it and it's having the same issue
Wow right on. Yup me too. Replaced crank/cam seals re-sealed oil pan. Mine wasn't leaking to bad either so I lost interest in finding the leak. 1 year later and it's pouring out. I was just looking for the diagram of re-re oil pump when I came across your vid. Thank you for making this video.
I have been looking for this leak for months and cant find it. I thought it was the right top corner of my gasket but it was leaking to much and couldn’t tell from where. You saved me bro. I have an 05 with the leak in the same spot.
Joel Luque I'm so glade you found it.. yay another win!!
I need to start wearing fancy shoes with no socks to work on the oil pump for my Accord
Lol whys that?
You can't imagine how many times I removed the Oil pan because of this leak. Solved 2 months ago, thanks to your video!
im glade you got it fixed. you welcome
Oh my god. This has to be my problem. I redid my oil pan gasket twice, still leaked. Then lead me to believe it was the crankshaft seal so I was going to do that next, but where the oil was getting on, it makes perfect sense it's this oil seal. Been battling this for so long. Thank you so much.
I'm so glad that my video was able to help you 🙌
Twice? Consider yourself lucky, I’ve changed mine several times like 4 until finally I’m like there’s no way, cus I thought maybe warped pan? I used the right stuff silicone maker and it’s still leaking so now I know no way it’s that, also my crank seal is new so can’t be that
@@BillyBob-op6lgYes, unfortunately it was only twice audio people. I see had changed things multiple times for years. So why was lucky to find it with a snake camera
Dude you described my whole oil leak thanks alot brotha god bless👌💯
NICE! Yeah I've been leaking too. It's not enough for me to worry to much about it. But it's there none-the-less. But I do know it's coming from behind that cover. Your video makes a lot of sense to me. Thank you!!
Not going to lie totally forgot about that seal... Ive been chasing this damn leak for sometime now and came across your video... Everything you stated is the same tihs im dealing with... Just got around to replacing it... We shall see once this Hondabond dries. Thanks again... I see its an old video but i gotta give you your flowers!
I totally appreciate the flowers. I will smell them 1 day lol. I'm so glad that the video was able to help you and many others even till this day 🎉
tq bro... I also have this problem... 3years for engine oil leaks 😂😂😂
Adha Shamsuddin so glad that the video is helping you/ people. I need that help so why not help others
What year is your Civic? My 2000 Civic has an oil leak, it’s splattered in the same location. I’m due for a new timing belt and water pump. So I wanna get the engine tight.
minds was a 98, but 2000 should be the same oil pump if it not leaking from the crank seal then its the oil pump which will be more work to get to it, but will be worth it to resealing.
😮 wish I saw this a while ago just did a couple of bearings and a timing set nd yeah she leaking....so much effort haha oh well hopefully it goes smoothly this time thanks man
i wish you saw it early to. i wish someone showed me. i didn't quit till i found something even if it was a crack. but its just and o-ring.
Do you ever need to replace the oil pump?
I have a 95 Honda Del Sol Civic
not at all. unless you looking for more power and still you don't even need to.
Ive had this for so long....i just keep adding oil. I had ideas, but thanks about the smaller seal. I was 90% sure it was the front main seal.
Im so glade i can help in some way
In this job if I’m replacing my oil pump do I really need to remove the oil pan?
Unfortunately, you will have to remove the Pan because of the pickup tube that feeds oil to the pump needs to be removed.
All Hondas have this leak in time because the O ring is not that good and the oil is under pressure, But tends not to leak around the crank seal because there is a small vacuum inside the oil pan from the PCV.
Yes you got it I hope you got it figured out
Damn My EX is leaking really bad ! thats where its leaking thank you great video!
Thanks man, had the very very very same situation you described but in a B20. Changed that seal and its fixed.
Thats awesome to hear man im really glad the video helped.
my oil leak on my 2012 civic is in the back of the engine behind the vvt selinoid but i cant find where its coming from, does anyone have a idea?
There is a gasket there replace it and your good
Thank you helped me find the leak I've been chasing
Your welcome glad I could help after so many years
Wow this has been bugging me for years. Even a mechanic couldn’t find the problem until I went to another auto shop told me about a oil pump seal. I replace all kinds of crap and still oil dripping problem. 2003 civic. Thank you
I wish I would have seen this video earlier. My mom had her crank shaft seal replaced on her 04 Civic and she still had oil leaks. Long story short she had to pay double because they had to replace the oil pump seal.
yea thats why i had made that video to help out people like myself that have had that issue for to long. i which you had seen it earlier
Maybe you can add Crank Shaft Seal to the title so it might get more results when someone searches. Just an idea.
just bought 2000 civic 210,000 miles on it. Engine is strong and no smoking after deceleration then pedal to the metal . But a ton of leaking drops under the entire length of oil pan. Changed oil and topped off to full mark.. 600 miles later, had to add 2 fulls quarts to just under full mark. Wondering if this might be the oil seal problem your video describes or an camshaft/crankshaft/oil pump shaft seal, rear seal and or oil pan gasket? I expect to do the repairs myself. Honda dealer is quoting 1450 plus tax. I am experienced in OHC and muscle engines. Just would like to know most likely fix because I know ordering full kit will be cheaper in long run than one thing at a time plus shipping. However, ordering a full repair kit and using just a couple of parts is a waste of money. Thanks for any input.
i would start with start with cleaning everything fully top of all fluids and with everything dried with help of a tone of brake clean i would start the car for about 2 min trun off and look to see from top to bottom where any leaks are starting from. that how i would do it.
@@ElvinBryant Thank you for the tip. I planned to do a pressure wash on everything the nozzle will spray. Then drive it a few miles and do a through check. I forgot to mention, I am doing a timing belt replacement since last one was recorded 122,000 miles. Thinking as long as the oil pump will be already exposed, I would do the replacement although I was not planning on the extra labor when I decided to change timing belt.
2#. I thought I saw a gasket available for the back of oil pump but unable to find one. Is RTV the only way to go. I hate Gasket maker
sprayed as much of the engine and top of transmission case as possible with degreaser. Let sit. Power washed everything in sight. Let dry, then air hosed around gaskets and possible oil leak areas above the top of transmission. Ran car 10 minutes. NO LEAKS but started smelling oil fumes and some light smoke from the exhaust pipe. Drove it 4 miles. Still no leaks above transmission. I just lost 1 1/2 quarts of oil and drove just 166 miles. Something tells me I also have a rear main seal problem and I am not in the position to take on that task.
This must be what is leaking on my Honda Civic since I've already had the head gasket, valve cover gasket, oil pan gasket, and crankshaft seals replaced. Thanks for the video.
Yea it is a hard to find leak..... I hope you fix it because it's an annoying leak.
if this is the same for a 2005 D17A2, this helps ALOT.. To bad i thought it was the crank seal. I tore down to it, did crank seal, oil pan seal, timing belt, and water pump 3 weeks ago. It's still dumping oil from the back of the engine. I guess i get to do it again. Thank you for the great information.
I had to do the same, lol. We live and we learn i guess i was gunshy to pull the pump myself but its handled now.
vuduchildx I am currently experiencing the same with my 2003 Honda Civic. I don’t have the luxury of tearing down the motor. Would this be pricey to pay to have done?
Does it leak while parked. Like a puddle?
Any advantages on the extra 10 psi oil pressure
Technically with a 200,000 plus its good to port it so it can compansate +\-=0
Thanks bro I’ve never encountered this kind of leak and I was getting ready to pull my hair out (I’m bald) 😂
Thank you for solving my mystery. I too have changed the oil pan gaskets twice, as well as a new oil pan. Great video bro.
Im glad that my video helped you.
Great video ... my 98 ek is doing the same f!@$@÷/ thing. Almost shot myself cause of this
Thanks man!!!!!
j chuck your welcome I'm so glade I helped someone. I needed a vid like this but hey I made it for others
Ye just watched your video as well. I got the same problem on my d17a2 motor. Running the engine as we speak for 3 hours and can not find the leak. Nope it ain't the crank seal and hope it ain't that cam seal. I will just change the oil pump seal and see what happens after that. I am putting oil every week now lol. It's getting worse.
Nana kwabiah What you need to do is wash the whole engine down with some type of Degreesing stuff then when everything dries started up for 3 minutes turn it off and look for the oil leak it always comes from the highest point
It was my cam was leaking on my d17a2. Yours?
Thanks, wish i would have seen this earlier.Just did the exact same thing,crank seal, oil pan gasket,valve cover gasket,black seal on the right side of engine,LOL now I get to pull the oil pan off again. Thanks for the video.
Yeah we all did the same thing I guess lol I just hadn't seen any videos on it so I decided to make this one.
2005 civic myself, and I'm pretty sure you pinpoint my issue. Already changed my head gaskets. I always dred going under that hood.. It's worse than a micro itx computer!
I thought it was the crankshaft seal and I was going to change it again but decided to remove the timing belt covers and hook all sensors back up and run it to see where it was coming from…eureka! I wasn’t sure how to remove oil pump so I found your video, I was contemplating removing studs on bottom side of oil pump that go through the oil pan so I didn’t have to remove the oil pan. Was going to double nut the studs and see if they come out but I think I’ll follow your lead and remove the pan. Thank you!
I have a 01 Civic, 1.7L, lost nearly 2 qts oil if I drive on long trip…350 miles but if I drove around town I could go 600-800 miles before I needed to add oil
I am so glad that you will willing to get it fixed. That is one of the problems with the oil pump that the majority of the people keep replacing things around it. But I'm glad that you are able to fix it..
ELVIN_EJ6_EK, very intensive labor jobs that is not worth paying money at the shop.
Many that I have known and told clients, "you don't want to repair the oil leaks for $2,500+"
Very common on Ferrari cars where clients are willing pay me beyond $54,000.00.
Its almost like an engine overhaul jobs.
I've asked because Honda really screwed big time on Civic designed.
Try doing removing nuts & bolts in the rear suspensions. Always got to chop & cut holes.
I tell people just place a cat litter box under the engine.
And don't buy Starbucks coffee in the morning, but oil in the morning.
ATG says & taught that at the overhaul racing & tuning classes.
Funny because mine works great
Great video. I told multiple garages that this was where it was leaking and they said no it was not leaking there. Orings DO wear out and get brittle with age. Thanks!
Yea most people did know it leaks from there but it sure does lol
How long did the bottom end breakdown take?
Thank you so much dude this oil leak has been driving me crazy
Saving lives man , thank you so much !
Thanks bro I'm so glad it helped.
Did you have to replace the pump or just replace that gasket? I have the same issue and I have been putting it on hold for almost two years. Finally wanna fix it.
I just replaced the gasket/O-ring
Thanx for the vid I have sane problem 160,000 miles 01 civic
2027SpcOdyssey KJ2 your welcome.. Oh nice. so it's fixed now?
Would that cause idle issues ?? Or stalling
With the oil pressure upgrade both with out tuning the Ecu.. but just the leak nothing.
I'll try this and confirm if solves mine. I did all you checked too, oil pump is the last.
5 days after the oil pump sealed, It Worked for me! Thanks for the video!
Thank you brother my car the same leak.
it sure help me right now man. thanks a lot!!!! subscribed‼️
I'm so glade it did... thanks man!!
How long did it take to do this job?
Its an oil relief valve. Oil pressure goes up with engine RPM, that spring compresses and allows oil to bypass it and flow back into the oil pan. You should never shim it. if it gets caught and stuck you will lose oil flow. When pressure goes up flow goes down after it reaches a certain level. You will starve the engine of oil if you increase the pressure too much. The pressure relief valve is there to ensure that there isn't too much pressure so flow doesn't become restricted.
You aren't increasing oil pressure output of the pump by doing that. The pump at 2k rpm with the valve or no valve is always going to put out a constant amount of oil pressure. The only difference is now all that pressure builds up and the oil gets stuck instead of having anywhere to flow. So you will pop that seal like a balloon or starve the engine of oil. If you want higher oil pressure you HAVE to use a oil pump designed to produce more oil pressure.
would help more if you put what year and engine that is. I bet its my problem as well as the oil pan gasket that always leaks on 92-95 civics. don't know why? but thanx...
Jack Jacke yea your right it’s a 98 Civic D16y7
Mines a 93 coupe. D15 i forget last two digits. Should be same job tho. Thanx again...
Bro thank you so much for this video, replaced the oil pan gasket on my gf's 02' civic D17A with 280k miles and it's still leaking on the front side of the engine dipping off the oil pan bolts and seaping around the whole oil pump. Just did the timing belt and water pump so it'll be a bitch having to go back in but it needs to be done. Thanks for the oil pressure trick as well!
Waffeey I have the same issue on the same car make and year. Did you replace the o-ring on the oil pump yet?
@@draper5058 Nope the car only leaks about a half a quart every 1000 miles so i'm going to keep running it unless it gets worse.
What year is this Civic and Engine size ?
i think this is where my leak is coming from. how long does this job take?
jgg204 for me about 3 hours
Thanks a lot. What parts you have to remove to access the oil pump in 2003 civic lx D17A1 engie? I m a going to do a head job and while I m in there I want to check the timing belt w. Pump as so on. I have this oil leak for two years now.
Since you are already in that area you will have to take off some bolts on the oil pan and and removes the alternator then you can take off to oil pump.
@@ElvinBryant thanks a lot...alt is out. Next will be the oil pan
Bro
You have no idea how much headache you saved me. I recently replace all my seals. Valve cover, oil pan, cam shaft, crankshaft, pcv breather box, and distributor seals. Only to find a oil leak some where around that area you mentioned. I'm not gonna worry about it now but ima buy the seal for when the time comes.
So I just need to replace the seals from the oil pump if it's coming from there ?
Jay C yea that's all you need to do and re-seal the pump to the block.
Jay C I work at Honda so that's was my best bet I rather use quality o-ring for something that deep I didnt ever want to take that back off in any near future cuz the cheap o-ring for some other place couldn't handle temp chances. Hope that made sence.
ELVIN_EJ6_EK What part number is it for honda oem ?
My 2002 ex just started a mayor immediate leak .
I turn it on and just drips like crazy I have to take a look to see wtf is wrong.
I just did an oil change yesterday and it was all good and just 30 mins ago oil all over the floor and looks like its coming from @ timming belt/water pump area.
I'm lucky I have another vehicle I can use for now. 😟
Thanks to the engineers who designed this setup!
Oscar Gonzalez tell me about it
Wait when you get to the Compensator Arm.
After 1997, Honda no longer make good cars. Just gas guzzler vehicles, getting less than 23/city.
That’s my same leak is it hard to replace the o ring???
Yea it is a bit of work.. but worth it
Is there only that small o ring to replace .? When part looking notcied there are a couple others ? Should i worry about those ? Thanks for the video just did my whole oil pan and gasket and the drip is right there 🤙🏼
Did you ever figure it out
Did you figure it out if so hmu
My exact problem! Now to figure out how to get the rest of it off. Thank you.
Glad to help
Thanks for the knowledge!
your welcome
thanks brother...
Thanks
Hey man. Thanks for making this video. I have changed my crank seal, cam seal, oil pan gasket and thinking maybe I got bad crank seal. But now I know it’s behind the oil pump. Lol
Lol No problem bro go get em🤙🏾
@@ElvinBryant how did you get the pump off it has sealant
Fyi: my oil leak was from the crankshaft seal, even after replacing it with a new one. Had to buy a redisleeve to go over the crankshaft. My crankshaft was worn down and still letting oil get by.
bro lokoks I have the same issue. Can't find the oil leak but it's coming from exactly where you are describing. I changed the oil pan gasket, valve cover gasket, cam seal but its still leaking. Used a stop leak sealant but didn't do any damn thing. I lose about close a quarter of oil every 3000 mile. Lose more if the engine runs for longer and under load. It's been close to two years and but the leak is not to bad so I am not fixing it.
Thank you brother
This man. When i c u, dinner is on me!
This is my problem right now, and Idk if I should wait but the leak isn't that much, only when I drive long distances.
I hope people come to you before they replace their oil pan and put everything back together, to still find their car leaking oil. Like me. Oh well, you live and you learn!
Do you have to take off timing belt to fix this?
Yes. The oil pump needs to be taken off. The crankshaft goes through the oil pump, and to get the oil pump off you need to remove the timing belt. Might as well get a new timing belt kit since you will be taking it off.
A little late here.... but it looks like my Civic’s oil spill pattern... two drops about 4 inches apart left side of the block ( under and before before the driver seat .. any help is appreciated.
Nice one mate got to this yesterday on 2002 honda stream with D17A2 engine o ring and crankshaft seal both brittle 👍 also have a slight drip on gearbox housing which i think is vtec solenoid from above
Thank you very very very much. I was fighting with that leak for few weeks.
Im happy my video helped
Yes, help me a lot. Thank you.
would help more if you put what year and engine that is. I bet its my problem as well as the oil pan gasket that always leaks on 92-95 civics. don't know why? but thanx...
Do you have to take the timing belt off or nah?
yes you do to get the the oil pump
Do I have to remove the oil pan in order to remove the oil pump housing to replace the seal?
Unfortunately yes
@@ElvinBryant .thanks
I have a very slow leak from the timing belt area also. Recently I changed the timing belt, tensioner, crank seal but it still leaks sometimes. It's not a big leak cuz I don't see anything on the driveway ...what could it be?
2 things a can be the oil Pan all the pump o-ring as in the video. If you have a mirror clean right above the alternator bracket and start the engine and see if it starts to leak from their that is the o-ring area.
Please describe what year is the car and what size of engine size??
Rocking the Miami Vice white shoes with no socks....My Man.
This video 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼 thanks bro
No problem!! Glad I was of some help.
This helped me change my oil pump lmao thanks man
thats whats up glade the video help someone
Anyone who has done this ... on a scale of 1 to 10, how big of a pain in the ass is doing this?
8
Thanks for the feedback .... Honda dealer wants $900 to do this repair, F a bunch of that noise. W After watching your vid, and with the help of a case (or two) of Keystone Light, I'll attempt to tackle it over a weekend. Thank you for sharing the video and your explanation.
I do work for Honda.... I wouldn't want to pay that price either.... You sound like you have a better plan going for you lol
Thank you bro
No problem glad I could help a bit
Basically take the engine out and replace all seals and be done
Thanks for the oil pressure tip! That helped me alot thank you so much
I'm glad it helped you also Upgrading the all pressure is only 4 Turbo or supercharger application if it's on a stock car when your are at a stoplight the car may stall or idle low.
oh i was thinking use it in my std car, i got a problem with the oil pressure, have 6psi in idle and 36psi at 3000rpm and i just checked everything except the oil pump
Thanks for the cure. Nice shoes!
1 question..for the oil pump can It get miss up beside the seals and gasket .because I seen people replace them for the fuck of it .
it is really up to you
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are that same with honda accord 95 ?i have some oil leak too
Great video
I'm curious and new to this. What do you hope to accomplish by increasing your oil pressure?
Increase pressure when a turbo is in the mix
What engine code is that u running
do i need to buy new tension pully when the belt gets taken off ?
No
Very helpful man thanks
Glad it helped
Thank You!
xX Xx your welcome, thank you for watching.
Took apart all of it 4 times before I found this video, then 2 times before I got it right lol but it should work this next time I need to wait til tomorrow so the gasket sealer has time to cure. Awesome video!
xX Xx yea it was hard for me to find but I was glade a had a snake camera that's how I found where it was coming from.. it's a lot of work just for that small o-ring lol
2000 Civic, can you remove the Oil Pump Cover without removing the Oil Pan and Valve Cover/Head?
No you cant
You have to remove the head? Couldn't you just remove the timing belt and crank pulley?
No owner will want to pay for this expensive jobs.
Honda made big mistake when they built the Civic.
@@angelisone The honda civic and D series engines are some of the best deisigned car's and engines of all time.
.. My gf's 2002 civic lx 4door 5spd has 280k miles on it and i've only had to replace the clutch, head gasket, and timing belt that's it. Original engine and trans, say that about any other car... Also if you learn to work on cars yourself you can do this entire job and be good for another 20 years with one sundays worth of work. Just my 2 cents 👍
Waffeey, after 2000, those engines are little better.
But then, Honda (all companies) cuts corners for not having good coat of paint.
Have seen Audi, BMW & Porsche have orange peeled paint after 6 years.
what motor year civic is this
98 d16y7
hey elvin, I need to change my oil pump but i can`t take out the drive pulley ... how did you do it?
Tony EC you can rent the special tool from your auto parts store they well I give your back the money once you return the part ... get a 19mm socket a half inche foot and a half extension with a long long handle breaker bar or if you have a half inche ratchet and a Hollow long metal pie you can put that to extend the ratchet handle and put a jack stand under the middle of the extension b4 you try to break the nut and it will be so easy with the right tools... Good lock buddy.
ELVIN_EJ6_EK good info i have been chasing this leak for 2 years did the front main seal last week and sheared of a 1/2 extension i think i am going to get a 3/4 Thank you
My cars leaking at least a quart a day coming from this area. Think it's the oil pump seal?
Noah either that or crank and or cam seals you should not be losing that much on just the pump... Or check the bolts on the timing cover some of them go into the block. hope that helps.
ELVIN BRYANT it started leaking a lot more after replacing oil pan and gasket but still drop from the one spot you showed
Noah what probably happen is that it may be was leaking from the oil pan Which decrease the oil pressure now that you fix the oil pan with a new gasket the oil pressure increased now is spring more from that area where you need to replace the oil pump seal or as I said it might be a bolt or your camshaft seal or crankshaft seal
@@ElvinBryant I know this comment is 3 years old but I still stumbled across it, so to prevent future viewers from being mis-informed: The oil pan has nothing to do with the oil pressure, it just holds the oil. The pressure in the oiling system comes from the clearances, ports, and galleys that the oil flows through. The oil pump just creates flow, not pressure. Also, although I give you credit and understand your thinking about it, the timing cover bolts that go into the block, yes they go into the block, but they do not go through the casting completely into the crankcase so they would never be able to leak oil. If every bolt hole put into a block casting went all the way through you would never be able to 100% seal the crankcase.