Fruit tree planting the Ellen White method
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- In this video I show how to plant fruit trees using the Ellen White method. This method produces healthy fast growing trees that will bear delicious mineral rich fruit.
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Planting by the blue print video: • Planting by the Blueprint
If you place a tarp down before digging, then put the dirt on it, then mix in your ingredients, you won’t waste any of it, and you’ll have a tidy area when you’re done.
thats a really great idea, thanks;.]
That sounds like my Swiss Grandfather talking, LOL!
Exactly what l was thinking- saves time and helps keeps the area cleaner
Another tip, if you tie the ankles to the bottom of your trousers then you can mix all the ingredients in your pants, and when you want to let a bit of soil out, take of your shoe and it’ll all come out👍
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Great info. I always bury fish heads and leftovers from filleting then at the bottom of the hole. If you don’t have any fish then you can put a couple of raw eggs. It’s amazing how those two things will give your fruit trees or any tree a big boost when you first plant them.
A friend of mine did a tes a few years back. He planted a few trees using this method an some using the conventional composting method.
The "blueprint method" trees have outgrown the others by a metre in 2 years. Much bigger and much more leafier. So this method definitely works best.
@Andrei Lucaci No my friend, once their food runs out in this hole the trees have become so strong to penetrate to the bad soil.
@@_the_assassin stick a 2 inch piece of pvc pipe down in the roots and feed it and water it that way ..
New fruit tree must adapted to native soil, I planted 6 fruit trees without any soil amendments ,after its fully established, then fertilized ..
Hi Pete, Great video, if you mix your soil in the bucket of your tractor then you can just dump your mixture into the hole. Seems like it would save you a bunch of shoveling...
You can also keep it natural and use sticks and twigs to create the air pocket - it will break down over time, but by that stage the roots will create more air flow too :)
An upside-down Clay has worked well for me. I planted 6 plum trees and they grew 3 feet in the first summer.
I was going to say the same thing. I don't put anything toxic in my soil, period. It has to be all natural just as it would be in nature.
Horse o manure o.
like a hugleculture it's good.
I don't think I have the right words for Pete, a man of trust. Imagine our world is filled with people who joyfully share, the Eden project could have made our planet a paradise.
The 3 by 3 by 3ft hole works for one tree. A trench would be good for a row of trees, and field done this way would be a farm of trees and everything.
Can you imagine, an expert asking me what good are stones in farming?
Conclusion, truly there's hope for planetary afforestation.
My lesson for the day is: I don't know the science behind, but it works.
Thanks and stay alive for many years.
Great how-to for each fruit tree. I can't help but suggest that since you have twenty or so to do, and the tractor with bucket, create a centralized batching area to do all that soil and amendment mixing using the tractor. Then do the three layers building in each hole using the bucket to shuttle in the mixture from the batch pile. Think "economy of scale" and leverage your availability of equipment. Thanks for the video!
I would love to see an update on how your trees are doing… Two years on they should be beautiful and healthy.
This Ellen white lady must have had a huge property…and lots of gardeners to help out…
The Lord gave her the method. Who better to know what He created needed.
If you read the last 8 chapters of her book Great Controversy, you will be astonished it was written late 1800’s. God is so kind. He wanted us aware.
I usually put the water in the hole before adding the soil. This allows me to see how fast/slow the water is draining, and it trains the tree to grow the roots downward toward the water.
Thanks. I saw the thumbnail and had to see if it was Ellen White the author. It Is! I have read some of her work on nutrition. I used to live near Keene. Amazing woman!
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The false prophetess of adventism?
You're making me not want to plant a tree this way
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@@followthelamb144 okay, the south african accent sucked me in. I guess I will. Thanks, frand
You are so right about electricity running everything. The reason they add wet lime to hard clay soil when preparing for a road bed is because the lime makes the clay not absorb water anymore because it thinks it's already saturated because the lime puts the electrons on the flat face of the clay particles just like water otherwise would. Everything is electrical man, it's amazing!
I just tried the EGW method 4 months ago, and I'm getting awesome results!
How about now?
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Great video. I planted trees using this method, or at least a similar one, before. Haven’t done it for a while, and I was much younger then. I will soon be getting back into it again, however, and I do remember how much work is involved. At 67 yrs.old, I’m glad I purchased a DIY-sized cement mixer (about 2 or 3 cu. ft.) a while back. After watching your video, I hope the darn thing still works. It’ll surely help my already aching back (knees, elbows, etc.). Thanks for posting. I’m glad I’m a subscriber.
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Can you make an update on the progress of your tree in the video?
@Andrei Lucaci why
@@jowoo7237 things like these - the only way to learn is to try. do not give in to the theorizing of know-it-alls. blessings to all
Must be a failed method
@Andrei Lucaci definitely not a failed method. I planted an aronia and a stellar cherry a month ago. Already had growth on day 4. They look far better than any other fruit tree we've planted in our awful TX panhandle soil.
@Andrei Lucaci this is my experience and trial after studying several professionals using this method, bruh. If you had the ground we do here in TX panhandle, you'd be willing to try anything besides planting in the native dirt. Can't even call it soil. David is just coming into their spring. Also, their country is absolute crap right now so might extend some grace. I'll bet he will do a piece on it. Are you on his patreon? Might be there too.
*THIS IS THE DUTCH METHOD :*
Ellen White is using the dutch method for fruit trees. Dutch farmers would augment their soil to increase nutrition, and then layer the ground beneath the trees to encourage roots to "seek out food" they need. High leaching nutrients were used near the top, and harder, slower leaching, sources were used closer to the bottom. Rocks were added in a layer deep down to encourage roots to "grab anchor" as the Dutch use to say. The roots would grow around the rocks, and the rocks would anchor the tree roots much better than without.....providing much better wind resistance, and the rocks were sources of sea minerals. Furthermore....the Dutch would bury fish, and poultry carcases deep down to enrich the soil. They did not mention knowledge of iodine, but the Dutch mentioned that "fish preferred, but poultry raised near the coast could be an alternative in resisting deformity of the youth".......pointing to an understanding that the sea was connected with good healthy offspring.
Think I would have mixed the spin in that nifty wagon…
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_"Think I would have mixed the spin in that nifty wagon…"_
Suggest you stake the newly planted tree to stop wind damage to root system as it sends out new roots, and don't forget to water the tree with one bucket every day for three weeks.
My husband and I just planted three trees yesterday, and I watching this two years later, thinking only halfway in that somebody needs to bring you a sandwich and a bottle of water! Please post an update for your fellow Texans.
In a year or 2? Last fall 2020, my friend planted about a dozen trees upstate NY., And this year this spring she found most of them loaded with blossom
She was so excited to see her hard work paying off so soon!!!
Looks like the wife had to conveniently leave and get the kids at school!!🤣 Thanks for your time and expertise!🙏🏻
I watched several videos on this Ellen White method. I have most of her books, very inspired woman by the Lord, very humble, and this is a divine method. You did a great job of explaining it what I really like, because you gave the measurements for the phosphate and calcium and the salt water and I really appreciate that.
Damn with that much work and ingredients those fruit trees better make fruit pies
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Planting trees takes a lot of work no matter which way you do it.
Pete, I'm up there in age and with you mixing all those different ingredients I'd be tuckered out just from the first tree and would have to take a week long rest before I would tackle the second tree so I was thinking of using one of those portable cement mixers to mix them for me, but your young enough to do your way, nice job !!! But just watching you has got me breathing hard lol. Larry
Thank you, I tried digging one by hand but our soil/clay is so hard since it hasn't rain in two months that we got the backhoe. That cement mixer is a great idea.
Love the technique. We have a backhoe and a concrete mixer so that will save our backs.
Pete, mix all the soil and ingredients in the wagon you have. Use a flat nose shovel-"coal shovel".
There are two things that I do a little differently to you. 1/ I groove the edge of the hole with a spade as it will allow the roots to spread a little easier. 2/ I use a cement mixer to mix the soil mix.Once mixed, you just empty it straight into to hole... I'm 73 and anything that saves my back, I'll try ;) lol
I live in a very dense clay soil area. This method is a game changer
Thank you. Did you do a follow up of the video in 2020? I would so love to see how your trees fared?
Best wishes from Australia.
I want to plant 3-4 fruit trees. Appears to be a lot of work. I think I’ll do one at time.... FYI, I’m 69 years old.
That's a big hole to dig by hand. U got the machine to help. I would too. I would need a machine to mix the soil, I am too old to hand mix them. :).
I think the thing that is missing with this method is a decent amount of biochar. After digging the hole and before filling it in with everything I'd probably throw all the dry brush I have around into the hole and light it up. Burn it until the big flames disappear and the sticks start to fall to bits and douse it with water (you don't want it to burn completely or you'll burn all the char to ash).
Alternatively you can make biochar in another method and toss it in with your soil.
Excellent demonstration. Have three fruit trees planted 3 years ago and not growing.
at all. I will sure try this method with my persimmons fruit free first.
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I would love to see an update on how this worked. Please let us know!
Don't hold your breath. Loads of people get excited about this method and spend a lot of work and money starting it... and very, very few of them ever show proof of it two, five, or ten years down the road.
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It’s true I suffered great losses using this on 60 trees
Sure like the idea of a terra-cotta pipe rather than plastic. I'm building a site in an old-school backyard full of nutrition via no-dig and wood-chips and cardboard and chop and drop and grow anything that works for my climate. And plastic or other inorganics just don't work for me as doing things correctly and mimicking nature.
But power to you for having a wife that decided that it was time for a back-hoe. Luck or choice - You done good.
I've never done this so I can only provide expert RUclips observation keyboard advice :). I think mixing the dirt in the hole with one of those weed eater attachment mini cultivators they use in flower beds might be a back saver. One thing I have done is....I turn the pot on its side and roll it before removing the plant. Last RUclips observation keyboard advice is .... Maybe substitute a chunk of wood for the rock to spread the roots.
Hopefully you think these awesome observations are worthy and I got them to you before you planted the last tree!!! Gotta love summer time in Texas!!!
Thanks, I tried mixing in the hole on one tree but it works out best to do it like I did.
i dig with my hand into the soil a bit, desoil the tree... sit it there, mound up with loam, spread compost, water in real good a few times, then shes on auto no plastic or bulldozers needed, the native way :)
Neandertals tend to be knowitalls....
@@beetlebayley5237 more like "over complicators" really but hey its the industrial revolution itl do that 2 ya
Great job buddy great info I've always said from experience that shoveling and moving dirt's one of the hardest jobs there is
Thank you, man you're not kidding it's hard work especially when it was 97 degrees out. 😧
I agree. Dirt should be in the description of a type of resistance.
@@petebeasttexashomesteading Hey Pete! Love the content. Are you near Tyler, TX?
Just a little fruitful advice: Collect as much used coffee grounds you can get from coffee shops and place around top of your planting. Worms absolutely thrive and multiply by the thousands in used coffee grounds. It really helps.
Hi Pete, I used Ellen White method for my plants because my lot has hard clay, so far I made 7 holds and planted 6 plants. I need to dig 3-4 more hold. I believe rock and pot in the 1st lay very important for the plant ( it creates electric and magnetic fields ). When I was little, I used to hear they said about dig hold put container and rock to help fruit tree healthy and produce a lot of fruits, now I am 74 years old. Another thing cookware from clay the food tastes better than metalware.
I chuckle every time someone says they have hard clay and it just looks like loose red dirt. I'm in Oklahoma and our red clay comes out in big hard clumps. It's compacted hard red clumps.
Am I allowed to laugh even harder bc here on my island it’s limestone and sometimes put a fence post down mean digging into solid rock. Haha I can only dream of digging into any soil.
@@sorryimshy5412 I’m thinking the same thing! I live in southwest Texas and we actually broke a commercial rocksaw digging on our property! 🤣🤣🤣
And in the Texas panhandle we're on previously raped farmland that was tilled and ravaged during the rare rainfall, sprayed with chemicals since the 40s. It's still recovering after we've been here 11 years, but the ruts are scars across her belly that will remain forever and are visible from satellite. We're trying to regenerate.
@@kirsten4896 Ditto in Ohio with the compacted clay (fragipan) from massive tractors constantly just running over the land before we bought it.
I have to agree with my Oklahoma friend. I live in Kansas and our place is nothing but clay and it comes up in big hard clumps. When it is dry it is as hard as rock...when it is wet, it is like walking in silly putty and climbs up over your shoes. It is a mess.
loved your video, recorded your breathing - phoned my wife and played it to her, she phoned the police hahaha....
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Thank you so much for sharing this information, I will be giving the amendments you added a try. As far as a rock under the roots, I wish I had thought of it before planting my apple/peach trees a decade ago. We have very wet soil and when the trees bare fruit we have to anchor them with ties or they lean precariously. This year we are adding several large rocks around the tree perimeters to anchor to, would have been better to have only 1 underground.
Another note. The orchard you buy from will also recommend that you do not add manure. Your fruit tree will not spread out it will keep a tight root system within your manurepit. lol. True though. They will be large but easily pushed over.
Here's what you need Pete, a cement mixer put the ingredients in and mix
Yeah we've thought about getting one but I need the exercise 🙂
Hey Pete, I'm in Eastern Az. Trade ya 1 truck load of that red clay for as much sand as you'd like. I have 40 acres of beautiful almost beach-like sand. 🙂
Wow, that's a lot of sand but you can always grow water melons 😂
We could have a chain swap😂 I have 60 wooded acres of rich, black soil with lots of forest leaf mold. I was just wishing I had a patch of that clay,and the sand would come in handy too! I think the shipping costs would kill us though 🤷🏼♀️
@@grannypantsification I'd send it if I could. You're free to come right on over and get some.
Great video. I am planting several apple trees this spring and will use it. I suspect that the inverted pot or ABS airspace is to prevent excessive rain from causing localized root rot. I think your mixing amendments and soil together would go easier if you did it on a small thick tarp and used as square pointed shovel. Once mixed, you slide the tarp to the edge of the hole and lift it up which pours the mixture into the hole, and then smooth . This also saves material because the tarp prevents the mixture from intertwining with the grass at the hole's edge. Kind regards. Craig
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How about using a small cement mixer to mix up the soil and amendments. Then is can be poured from the mixer into the hole. Or shoveled in, however you like.
Highly informative. Thank you. Is it possible to update how this particular tree has done?
Hola, excelente, el método es seguro y tiene mucho sentido, felicidades. Más vídeos así.
I watched this one twice, I love your RUclips and maybe almost of your video. You are cool! . I learn a lot, I wish I live in 20 acres like you. City in Southern Ca. I got a old drawing detail of Ellen White from Yannick Van Doorne yuotube? (Yannick Van Doorne, Agronome Engeneer, Ph D., Belgian. He speak French, English,...
Thank you 😎
I like Midday Power Surge ministry on yt. He shares Mrs. Whites writings.
Amazing EGW planting method.
If you have a bunch of trees to do that with, rent you a trailer drawn cement mixer, it beats shovel mixing any day!!
Great job, great info, mate. Cheers from Australia.
I live very close to Cooranbong were Ellen w christen group purchased the land with bad soil and had the dream after the hole group prayed on buying the land records were taken on how large the fruit was and how the taste was so good. I was wondering how your trees are going after 4 year I saw your video please could you let me know
Using a backhoe to dig a big hole isn't cheating, it is smart! Especially in clay.
Your soil looks like mine though you are spared the rock ledge and random rocks left by retreating glaciers.
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Very nice tractor! Love your videos. All the way from West Texas.
Thank you neighbor 🙂
Thank you for that info.you look tired but u dida great job but did you forget to add a pc pipe in there all the way t the rocks so water can be added threw there and the roots will go down there as well.
Thank you, yes you could add a pipe to send water to the roots if you like but the root are close to ground level already.
That’s a mighty fine tractor.
Thank you
I also live East of Dallas. It’s been 3 years since you did the fruit tree planting. How are the trees doing
one thing you have to watch, top soil and most soil amendments you buy from a store is sterile (no micro organisms) ... i found this out the hard way when I built raised bed gardens using only store bought soil + compost ... my plants didn't do worth 10 cents the first couple of years. I've been having horrible issues with fruit trees also planted in a high density raised bed method due to my clay soil, out of 40 trees only about 12 of them are still alive their second year so I am looking for alternative ways. I am also curious of your follow up to this method.
Out of 38 trees that I planted using this method, I've only lost three trees, one to transplant shock, the other was in a pot for two years before I planted it and one died for no apparent reason and also two fig trees to a couple days of cold weather in the winter here.
I have clay site like yours, out of my 60trees, 20% died, , 12 % successful, others sick/ diseased. We are in Queensland Australia high rainfall
@@juliankong6434 since 4 years ago, I found that heavily mulching the clay helps drastically. The clay has plenty of nutrients and keeping it from drying out goes a long way to tree success. I haven't lost a tree since I started heavy mulching ... even though I haven't planted anything new since 2020 but thats because i got blessed with cancer. Currently, i have 70 fruit and nut and citrus trees, all doing well. If you let the clay dry out, it smoothers the roots and they can't expand.
I make my own compost! My husband bought dirt! I’d have never bought dirt b4
we just plant 2 trees following your tips.
awesome, it's a lot of work and our peach trees produced lots of fruit for us the very next year.
God-given knowledge always works. That's botany, and soil science from God Himself. Doing this also on our veggies, but on a downscaled way.
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I like your video, I learn a lot from you. You live in area very green and big property ( it is my dream ) but no luck to me. I live in Lakewood, California.
It is very interesting way to plantings! Thanks 🙏
You are welcome
I am thinking of buying a piece o land in Brasil to plant fruts
Appreciate the video Pete. I hadn't seen this one earlier and will try this method the next time we plant a tree. Looks like lots of work, but if it make the tree grow faster and produce more, well worth the effort. Thanks for sharing.
Bud, mix in the bucket, dump her, i enjoy watching a tractor, watching its owner dig by hand till he cant catch a breath lol, great i dea tha air pouch H culture
At least you have dirt because Florida is sandy crap. We buy so much manure and miracle grow or have to pay quite a bit for soil. What I do is at bottom of hole is to fill it full of water, let that soak in then add dirt and plant then re water
I lived in south east Florida for eight years. I remember trying to put in a mail box post and hit coral about eight inches down and if you dig much deeper you'll hit water. 😕
Using commercial fertilizers, gets washed into the Gulf, and causes Red Tide. Make compost, use wood ash, and crushed egg shells instead for plantings. Use permeable materials for driveways like crushed shell. All those pretty lawns in Florida are ruining the Gulf from commercial Fertilizers running down driveways, and streets during big storms/flooding.
Boy! That's a lot of work, man! I bought a dying cherry tree at Lowe's. Just dig a 12 inc hole 12 inch wide dump my tree in there, after a year still alive! No sweat.
You just don't get it.
The purpose is not to keep it alive but to thrive. There is a science to this.
@@susanpaulson7445 The purpose is to bear more and better fruit.
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Agreed
Yeah thats the " Mikey no sweat " Method ...LOL
Happy Sabbath
Thank you and Happy Sabbath to you also.
Nice video, Pete. Man that's a lot of stuff added to the tree. think your tree will bear some nice fruit. One thing you didn't mention is water, water, water the tree daily. Almost 5 gallons since your hole is 3 foot deep. Great work on your tree plant. Thumbs up and I had no idea you made the video. Have a fine week. I'm now prepping for hurricane Florence. We're directly in her path. Later. Enjoyed the full watch of your video.
Thank you, Wow I know what you're going through right now. I've been through 6 or 7 hurricanes in Florida and Houston. If it's a cat 3 or bigger, it's best to go more inland and hopefully it will fizzle out. Also leaving at the right time is very important. It's best to leave very early and beat the traffic or wait to the last day and keep checking the traffic conditions. The roads will usually be fairly clear then and you won't get stuck in traffic. I'll be praying for you.
brother you look strong as an Ox still man. im going to be 41 and got Fat and out of shape after college sports. Im a shall of what I once was.
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My concern with this method is the leching of the plastiseals, (plastic contamination) that the tree will soak up more and more over time.
Thus the fruit becomes contaminated.
I recommend you listen to The Back to Eden Gardening by Paul Gouchey (sp) on RUclips.
I thank you for your patience in reading this.
I think there are some plastics that will resist or approach 0 contamination, I believe the black drain plastic as well as not being exposed to air/sun will work better than the white for example. This is just a guess from some material science classes I took decades ago but I remember a plumber had to use a certain type of plastic for drinking water in my house. Then he used the white plastic for drain pipes and cold water pipes to the cloths and dish washers. Hot water was another more expensive pipe he had to use. I'm not saying it has to do with the color but the prices were different and I asked why. We forget that just a few decades ago our drinking water traveled thru lead, asbestos and copper pipes which all had side effects we didn't know about till recently. Thanks for taking the time to read as well and if anybody has more scientific info it would be appreciated.
Use a cement mixer, to mix your soil.
Just mix it like a man, with good old fashion hard work! It adds to the benefits !
Hi Pete after I watched your RUclips twice, I started digging a hole 3x3x3’ and planted a mango. My back yard has problem, most of plants won’t work. Lately I found out Yannick Van Doorne use that method plus antenna to inprouve the grow. Most of time his RUclips in French but I understand. You have a descend tractor I think made in India because of name. One more think I live in Lakewood, Ca. small back yard how about you, big back yard. Good luck to your hobby and project!
at least i found a use for my old logs :D
You also need a bottle of Johnny Walker. It will make your fruit taste better.
Great job
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Very informative and helpful video, thanks.
Can you give us a 2021 update on how these trees are doing now?
13:02 The rock layer added into the first part (topsoil/mulch/other additive mix) changes the current of the root system according to a study by EN Jones?
You left out waiting for a full moon before planting lol. I don’t know about all that , would love to see a year by year comparison ,
concerning gravel, the only reason iv'e heard of is in places that have hard clay it helps with the compacting and breaking the clay soil helping the roots spread our long in the years a head.
Thank you for your videos. Any updates about your trees using this method.
thank you for the video. I want to try this method
Thank you
I'm definitely doing this thanks
I’ve heard not to amend the soil in clay because you create a bucket filled with loose soil which will hold too much water. Don’t know if that’s true or not. Just amend at the top of the soil…Curious to know your results.
And couple that has planted tree by this method makes holes in the wall of the hole to make it easier for the roots to expand into the surrounding soil.
See Marie's Country Life channel. Their trees really grow using this method.
This is true, tested
This is a method best fit for those that are not on native farm land or Mollisols/Entisols soil. If you are on either one of those the orchard you buy the starters from will recommend that you do not touch the soil. Dig a hole drop it in and move on. Any other soil then I would do this and good luck.
I would love to see an update, with a side by side comparison.
My question is- does this not cause a balling up of the roots because they don't want to disperse for more nutrients? We're in heavy clay- and other videos stated to not add nutrients into the dug out mix
That's why you want a square hole. The roots follow the walls and end up in the corners and then hit a wall and are sent out into the surrounding soil. If you dig a round hole it can become a root ball depending what the outside soil is (if highly compacted).
I bury all my food scraps in a mound. I also shread cardboard in a large paper sheader and add that. I have hundreds of worms and castings to add to my plants.
I used cow manure along with chicken poo mixed into my compost pile mixed all 3 together then dug my hole using the dirt from the hole i mixed in with my manure compost mix then added some miracle grow soil to it i thought that would make for a good soil mix but since planting 2 peach and 1 plum saplings at the 20 foot spacing they recommended but they dont seem to be doing anything no buds or leaves or anything i wonder if i did something wrong or if im not being patient enough since i live roughly an hour from you was hoping you could give me some advice
Great video
Awesome video, thank you.
Question I have is the long term effects. Short term I've no question it works well but eventually the roots need to spread into the poorer soils. Do you wind up creating a problem?
I havent done this method but I would assume It gets strong enough for the roots to push through the hard soil and you should be fertilizing your fruit tree up to 3 times a year, plus do some compost tea I dont think it'll create a problem.
I would be interested in a follow up on how these trees are doing.
You should buy one of those plastic kitty pools to mix everything .
Great Info!!
Could you use sticks, limbs instead of plastic in the hole for air?
You can use clay pots put upsidedown instead of plastic, sticks and limbs will break down to fast.
any updates on the 20 plus trees? I would like to see the results before I hire some locals at the 7-11 or Home Depot parking lot for the digging part.