These systems also take an m.2 NVMe SSD and include a WiFi card. The ones with the air vents on the top cover are the 65 watt models that use a faster CPU as in i5 6500, i7 6700. The ones without the air vents are the 35 watt systems which use a lower power CPU indicated by a "t" at the end, as in i5 6500t, i7 6700t. I have two, one 65 watt i5 6500 @ 3.2ghz and one 35 watt i5 6500t @ 2.5ghz. The major difference in the wattage is the 65 watt system is more for crunching numbers, video and audio rendering and heavy business usage. In most cases the 35 watt system is all the average user will actually need for email, internet and photo manipulation. They can also be conveniently mounted to the back of a monitor with a mounting bracket, sold separately. When purchasing these units you can get either a Prodesk or an Elitedesk. The Elitedesk has more upgrade ability as far as CPU and memory. They are either HP Prodesk 600 G1 mini or HP Elitedesk 800 G1 mini. The G1 stands for GENERATION 1. Stay away from G1 as the heatsink fan is at the rear of the heatsink which is a design flaw and is not effecient at moving air through the heatsink. Only purchase a GENERATION 2 or above. This design corrected the fan and heatsink in the proper order to properly move air through the heatsink. For more information on the capabilities and design of the systems see the HP manuals online to check stats. Have fun...
the pi computers are not really intended to be used as home computers they shine as mobile computers for example you need a linux computer on a drone real time image processing or smthn and you need to power that machine with a battery pack
I love these little machines. They can be had now for $35 to $85 or so depending on the specs. (6th and 7th gen i5). Def 16GB of RAM. Lift out the hard drive cage and install an M.2 in them- almost all of them have nVME M.2 slots. I don't even bother with the SATA SSDs unless for extra file storage. I have 4 of these in my house, file server, test machine and my kids computers mounted out of sight under their desks.
You make a useful piece of advice applicable to my self-constructed tower pc in that my HD is now 8 years old. I check it often with Speccy to make sure the HD is ok but maybe I should install an SSD. Adding another 8 gb ram would be helpful too.
I paid just £100 for one of these a few weeks ago. But SFF not mini pc - its amazes me at just how much technology you cant get for a mere 100. So easy to upgrade these and other similar ex-office PCs into a pretty capable computer for next to nothing.
I run 1 samsung and 1 kingston value ddr4 modules in my laptop. The matching is a lie if the timings of the ram modules are the same they work great. Had this config for over 2 years and 0 blue screens of frozen desktop. Get modules from well known manufacturers and you have no problem !
Yes you can match brands if they have the same rated speed and you aren't running the ram at max speed. The problem is if you try run XMP for one brand it will likely not work for the other brand.
@@stevenc22 ok , I agree with you on this side. If you run XMP or overclock , you need the same caracteristics from both dimms. My coment was for standard speeds 2400, 3200 ... etc.
I know this is an old video but maybe you still monitor it. I just purchased one of these (it's just a ProDesk, not Elite, does the same apply, $80) with Windows 11. My question is what form was windows on the USB drive that the system will recognize? I wasn't going to upgrade the HDD till I saw your video but what you say makes since. Also does the replacement SSD have to match the HDD in size. Great video.
You can install any size SSD. You will reinstall Windows from a USB. Your license will automatically be recognized by Windows as long as you reinstall the same version of Windows.
Microsoft has a USB make utility that will build a install USB for you. support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/create-installation-media-for-windows-99a58364-8c02-206f-aa6f-40c3b507420d
Could it work with 49 ultrawide monitor? And is it worth to maximize RAM up to 32Gb? I'm thinking to buy it for office programs and few browsers together. but with extreme multitasking working All together. that's why I need ultrawide monitor. I'm absolutely indifferent for gaming. I found this HP in my country's money a bit more than 100$ , and if I would buy 2x16Gb ram, that would cost plus 40-50$
Unless you are swapping for a larger SSD or a faster M2 NVME SSD there is no real reason to not to use this PC with the SSD which came with. Those SSDs will survive another couple of years or even more without any problems..
Not all of these have the m2 slot. But if yours does, you absolutely can use it as a boot drive. I have one with only a nvme drive in it running just fine.
If you all ready have the PCI tuner card I have seen on YT someone that bought an PCI adapter that plugs into the m.2 slot and with the help of a ATX or laptop PS he used it to power a Nvidia video card for gaming on the same HP 800 G2 PC. Or use a HDHomerun tuner that works over the network I use mythtv and it sees it fine or you can record from a terminal. If you use windows I'm sure some media program can see the tuner, they have models with 2 and 4 tuners.
Yes, some do. There is a multimedia slot in the back. Some have a VGA port there, others have a display port there. Just look at the ebay pictures before buying.
These systems also take an m.2 NVMe SSD and include a WiFi card. The ones with the air vents on the top cover are the 65 watt models that use a faster CPU as in i5 6500, i7 6700. The ones without the air vents are the 35 watt systems which use a lower power CPU indicated by a "t" at the end, as in i5 6500t, i7 6700t. I have two, one 65 watt i5 6500 @ 3.2ghz and one 35 watt i5 6500t @ 2.5ghz. The major difference in the wattage is the 65 watt system is more for crunching numbers, video and audio rendering and heavy business usage. In most cases the 35 watt system is all the average user will actually need for email, internet and photo manipulation. They can also be conveniently mounted to the back of a monitor with a mounting bracket, sold separately. When purchasing these units you can get either a Prodesk or an Elitedesk. The Elitedesk has more upgrade ability as far as CPU and memory. They are either HP Prodesk 600 G1 mini or HP Elitedesk 800 G1 mini. The G1 stands for GENERATION 1. Stay away from G1 as the heatsink fan is at the rear of the heatsink which is a design flaw and is not effecient at moving air through the heatsink. Only purchase a GENERATION 2 or above. This design corrected the fan and heatsink in the proper order to properly move air through the heatsink. For more information on the capabilities and design of the systems see the HP manuals online to check stats. Have fun...
I buy these for $35 - $45 dollars. They can be noisy from the fan. But a much better bargain than the "pi" computers.
the pi computers are not really intended to be used as home computers they shine as mobile computers for example you need a linux computer on a drone real time image processing or smthn and you need to power that machine with a battery pack
I love these little machines. They can be had now for $35 to $85 or so depending on the specs. (6th and 7th gen i5). Def 16GB of RAM. Lift out the hard drive cage and install an M.2 in them- almost all of them have nVME M.2 slots. I don't even bother with the SATA SSDs unless for extra file storage. I have 4 of these in my house, file server, test machine and my kids computers mounted out of sight under their desks.
Since SSDs don't have moving parts, they're very reliable. In fact, most SSDs can last over five years, while the most durable units exceed ten years.
I agree!
I agree. I have one and am very pleased with mine.
You make a useful piece of advice applicable to my self-constructed tower pc in that my HD is now 8 years old. I check it often with Speccy to make sure the HD is ok but maybe I should install an SSD. Adding another 8 gb ram would be helpful too.
I paid just £100 for one of these a few weeks ago. But SFF not mini pc - its amazes me at just how much technology you cant get for a mere 100. So easy to upgrade these and other similar ex-office PCs into a pretty capable computer for next to nothing.
I run 1 samsung and 1 kingston value ddr4 modules in my laptop. The matching is a lie if the timings of the ram modules are the same they work great.
Had this config for over 2 years and 0 blue screens of frozen desktop. Get modules from well known manufacturers and you have no problem !
Yes you can match brands if they have the same rated speed and you aren't running the ram at max speed. The problem is if you try run XMP for one brand it will likely not work for the other brand.
@@stevenc22 ok , I agree with you on this side. If you run XMP or overclock , you need the same caracteristics from both dimms. My coment was for standard speeds 2400, 3200 ... etc.
That Gskill ram could very well be Samsung.
I know this is an old video but maybe you still monitor it. I just purchased one of these (it's just a ProDesk, not Elite, does the same apply, $80) with Windows 11. My question is what form was windows on the USB drive that the system will recognize? I wasn't going to upgrade the HDD till I saw your video but what you say makes since. Also does the replacement SSD have to match the HDD in size. Great video.
You can install any size SSD. You will reinstall Windows from a USB. Your license will automatically be recognized by Windows as long as you reinstall the same version of Windows.
Microsoft has a USB make utility that will build a install USB for you. support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/create-installation-media-for-windows-99a58364-8c02-206f-aa6f-40c3b507420d
DOM: September 19th, 2016. I had to pause the video and search for it. 😁
Could it work with 49 ultrawide monitor? And is it worth to maximize RAM up to 32Gb? I'm thinking to buy it for office programs and few browsers together. but with extreme multitasking working All together. that's why I need ultrawide monitor. I'm absolutely indifferent for gaming. I found this HP in my country's money a bit more than 100$ , and if I would buy 2x16Gb ram, that would cost plus 40-50$
Yes but buy the newer Ryzen version which has better graphics processor for your ultrawide
Unless you are swapping for a larger SSD or a faster M2 NVME SSD there is no real reason to not to use this PC with the SSD which came with. Those SSDs will survive another couple of years or even more without any problems..
May I ask, can I use the M.2 nvme ssd as a boot drive? If so, does it still works even without 2.5 drive... I have the same model as yours.
Not all of these have the m2 slot. But if yours does, you absolutely can use it as a boot drive. I have one with only a nvme drive in it running just fine.
@@stevenc22 ok thank you for your reply, mine has m.2 slot...
I found one on Facebook 16g for 25 had to get it
Yeah that's a good deal
@@stevenc22 nice classic BMW
Is it windows 11 eligible after your suggested upgrades?
Use tiny11
Very nice vid !~
Do you know of a mini pc that I can add a pci TV tuner?
Most don't have pci slots. Maybe use a USB tv tuner.
If you all ready have the PCI tuner card I have seen on YT someone that bought an PCI adapter that plugs into the m.2 slot and with the help of a ATX or laptop PS he used it to power a Nvidia video card for gaming on the same HP 800 G2 PC. Or use a HDHomerun tuner that works over the network I use mythtv and it sees it fine or you can record from a terminal. If you use windows I'm sure some media program can see the tuner, they have models with 2 and 4 tuners.
Are those things good for video editing? Making videos for RUclips ?
Probably not. You probably want a dedicated graphics card in a video editing rig
Yes, they are very good for youtube editing, I have one and it's excellent.
is it have vga port to connect monitor ?
Yes, some do. There is a multimedia slot in the back. Some have a VGA port there, others have a display port there. Just look at the ebay pictures before buying.
Why it sound so noisey?
Can i use memory ram higher then 2400 ex. 3200 will be work?
It will work but you won't get any benefit from the higher speed ram. The system will still run at it's default memory speed
@@stevenc22 now the higher memory Costs less and maybe i can use in the future diferent pc
@@stevenc22 thanks
I think I have 2 plates of 2400 but it's reported down to 2133 Mhz. Hence I presume that's the maximum speed you can get for the ram in dual channel.
Not fully loaded no Nvme
Dude , its pronounced DUAL . not " Jewel " LMAO