If he continues doing what hes doing hes gonna be one of three players including hakeem and kareem to average 25 10 and 4 blocks. 36% from 3 on 9 attempts, 88% from the line. I genuinely hope he stays healthy cuz if he does hes gonna a top 5 talent ever
Damn. 5 blocks a game? I have been working too much and haven't watched much basketball this season. Sours are my team too. I really need to watch a Spurs game. I really want to see how Chris Paul is doing too
"thats just rim protection" bruh wemby is literally 10x better than embiid on the perimeter too. he also blocks JUMPSHOTS, gets more steals and deter ppl from even attempting anything. hes 10x better than embiid on defense lol.
Can we stop with this "oh wemby don't understand defense and just blocks shots" narrative that chill pushes? If you watch a Spurs game you can see that Wemby blocks JUMPSHOTS and plays STELLAR defense on the perimeter as well as the paint. Are we not gonna talk about the double perimeter blocks he got against the Knicks? or the two misses he forced against Trae Young in the Hawks game? Wemby is easily the best overall defender in the NBA and it ain't close.
@@bambabarry that’s exactly what they do 💀💀 they just recall good games from star players than just bro science that shit and make it sound like it makes sense. Like the term not understanding defense and 4 blocks per game should not be in the same sentence, tons of rangy defensive players who can’t do what Wemby can
Yeah, people piss me off each they repeat this stupid sentence. They probably looked at the box score and made this judgement, which is wrong btw. He scored 16 on him.
Its going over your head. The kid is getting these blocks because of his freak frame and slender man arms. Chill is saying that he doesn’t understand the details of defensive schemes, communication, and rotation. Even though he gets all these blocks it’s from pure talent and not much else and he’s right.
If the play doesnt result in a turnover or a better situation to the defense is a 'bad' block. Thats why draymond is still considered a top defender player on the league while not having stats, pretty much anything that he does on the defense colaborates to his team being in a better position. Thats why rudy win the dpoy and i can go on. Just for shits and giggles, it doesnt matter if he's having 4 blocks a game if he still manages to get 30 on his head and 40 on the rest of his team by embiid or any elite player.
@@breno5029man yall be saying anything 😂The advanced stats don’t even back up Anything your talking about. In wembys rookie season his team without him on the court was a bottom tier team defensively.(25-30th) With wemby on the court his team was a top 5 defensive team.
@@yohoncho2011 I understand that, but players with understanding of playing defense dont produce no where near what wemby has on defense. Wemby has to understand enough to avg 4 blocks, multiple 10 block games
I feel like people don't watch Wemby play defense. People must think he stands at the rim and racks up blocks just because he's tall. He regularly blocks jumpshots which needs insane reflexes, he gets beat on the perimeter but is quick enough to still get the block, he can guard both guys in the PnR and blocks/disrupts lobs like every game, he also grabs a steal every now and then by picking off passes, if he's anywhere near the rim a lot of guys refuse to put up a shot... Watch games goddammit
Chet Wemby rivalry started before they were in the league I’m pretty sure it was like u19 Olympics or something. And ignored even further since they shared their rookie seasons. Love the fire between them when they play we need more of that within the league.
i think he had around 16-18 on wemby. Its just a false narrative people push without watching the games.. just like the recent flopping narrative being pushed by some people from the sixers game. Smh !
Yeah and how did Embiid dropped 70 on Wemby when Wemby was in foul trouble early and was riding the bench most of the first half. These fools are hating on Wemby so bad they have to create this stupid narrative
@@whatwouldnoviedo4571 because the refs falls for embiid's soft flopping ass with those foul baiting sh*t. But props to embiid for taking wemby out of the game, so the point still stands, he did not drop 70 on wemby. Also wemby was a rookie, when is "cooking" a rookie impressive? If anything, wemby made embiid a clown by dropping 33 pts on him as a rookie and even in minutes restriction.
He had a rough start to the season. In this most recent stretch of games he's been number 1. I'd put him in my top 3 easily, and it's crazy to think he's going to get better.
I've been saying, for his whole like Wemby has been used to always be the best player on the floor. Last season wasn't comfortable for him. He's not going to let this situation last too much longer.
If you compare Wemby to the best version of Embiid, sure Embiid is still better today. But you gotta take the good and the bad, and Embiid right now also means injuries, shenanigans and low motivation. Telling it like it is.
Wemby suckers players into thinking they have a clear shot, so his defensive play looks different. But it is just as effective as the traditional type of defense if not more so. Sometimes, instead of looking directly at his opponent, he looks to the side which tricks the shooter and he ends up getting his shot blocked. Wemby also collapses off his man at the last second to block a shot of someone else's man. He covers more ground than a shortstop it seems.
Wemby is the Iron Dome! Players don’t even want to attempt a shot 80-90% of the time they approach his air space and he’s blocking shots off of raw talent and athleticism. When the game slows down and his experience and instincts overlap, it’s gonna be must-see TV!
CURRY VS WEMBY LAST 20 GAMES: Wemby: 27/10/4/4/1 on 63% TS Curry: 23/4/6/1/0.5 on 61% TS During this stretch, Wemby has 11 wins, Curry has 8. You tell me who has been better.
The only reason they have certain people over wemby is cuz he started slow and is only at 25ppg cuz of it, when the season goes on and he’s averaging over 27 while winning DPOY and hitting hundreds of 3s the Ad thing won’t be a debate and I also think he will pass embiid
Embid is better 1:1 in the paint but that’s about it, once Wemby gets stronger it won’t be close, Wemby is also a better overall player especially in defense, and he’s gonna get a lot better indeed, but that’s not an argument vs Embid
This is crazy I said Wemby was a top 10 player before the season started people said I didn't know basketball But now everyone wants to get on the train saying he a top ten player lmfao
Did people realise that he was the best player in the Olympics look at his stats he lead his team in everything he dominated usa only reason they didn't win is because fhe chef pulled a rabbit out of the hat Wemby almost single handedly beat the avengers
What do I think? Wemby made the NBA All Defensive team 2023 - 2024 as a Rookie!!! Barring injury - He will probably make that team 10 times in 10 years. How many "jump shots" has Embid blocked in the last 5 years? If I'm shooting a 3 point shot "no one" is worried about Embid. (LOL) How many times has Embid been considered for Defensive Player of the year? Exactly. Real talk "according to the numbers" - Wemby was the real winner of Defensive Player of the year last year (Rookie Season)! - Mic Drop. Just an opinion.
Saying Joel embid is close to wemby in defence is too crazy man 😂 Minus his block, wemby gravity on defence is proberbly the most gravity on defence if all time For a 7,4 guy bro is extremely mobile and also very flexible soo he could block shots in the difference ways like the block on sabonas All love tho❤😂
Joel at his peak was all defense, Could switch onto guards at times, defended the rim at a high level and had high gravity as well. Wemby is elite but we crowning his defense prematurely with statements like this
@@11credibleCROWNING HIS DEFENSE PREMATURELY!! Victor Wembanyama is the first player in NBA HISTORY to make 1st team all defense in his rookie year. Wemby has more blocks than Shaq in his first 92 games and Wemby was a year younger as a rookie. I watched Embiid when he was healthy he was NOT getting 10 block games and 5*5's. 💯💯
It's okay to hate Embiid but to claim Wemby's better just cause he's hurt or you don't like him is ridiculous. The guy with the sunglasses is doing too much. He really believes top players in the league think wemby better than them. Lool
There are only two players who Wemby couldn't replace their superstar to make that team better - maybe three. Shai, Jokic and Mitchell. IOW, Wemby is the fourth best player in the league. In every other case, the team would be better with Wemby rather than their star player.
Wemby started off super slow in the first 9 games he played this year but in the 17 games since his averages are 29/10/4/4 on 50/40/85 shooting splits , all while being the best defensive player in the league. If we are talking about right now who’s are the top 10 players I’m not sure what else he can do other than have a bigger sample size so people understand it’s real because those are mvp numbers especially when you factor in his defense.
It’s the sample size for me. I love Wemby. I just have other criteria’s. Playoff performances, seasonal accolades, etc. He’s also an anomaly. The numbers he’s putting up are insane. He’ll definitely be in Jokic convo’s in 2-3 seasons as the best player in the world. That’s not a slight towards Wemby. He’ll be more polished by then.
Now look, Chill. As I said before, I'm with you on giving young players time to develop, but with Wemby it's different because, as I also said, by year five he will be the best player in the world, so him being top 10 isn't a stretch.
I'm fine with Wemby in top 10 conversations. But I also have a firm belief that getting into the top 10 should be difficult. Most players in there have a long body of work. Someone having their first elite year shouldn't all of a sudden be better than someone who's also playing elite, and they've been doing so for 6 years. I agreed with the direction of the convo until there was a hesitation to rank AD over Wemby. I think AD is convincingly better.
to por anyone besides jokic on above wemby is laughable, but to have AD, Shay, Lebron and Tatum above him, I sono almost fell on the floor and died from laughter, LMFAO
Curry in their it a lot of gaurd playing better than curry right now dame and lamelo and kyrie and Trae young all playing better than him and curry is starting to loose step
If Wemby doesn`t understand defense, then i`m sorry but if that were true, then nobody in NBA history understands it. a Rookie Wemby was a better defender then a prime Rudy Gobert who despite Gobert`s flaws, is a great defender in his own right
It’s tough because he is that good, but he’s still so raw and far from his peak form and there’s still so much left on the table in his game that it’s hard to put him in the top 10 over more well-formed players.
Embiid has played at a higher level but that doesn’t make him a better basketball player than Wemby. There’s a difference between you being a better player overall than someone and you just playing at a higher level. And Embiid has just played at a higher level
You can hear in his tone when he spekas of Wemby that he doesnt like him. But its not about liking a player, its whether the player is good or not regardless of how i personallly feel about a player. Wemby today is a better player, more reliable player and better defensive player than Embid. Calm down old man
if i had first pick for any player in league to build my team around, i will take Wemby n never look back. 💯 homeboy with glasses is delusional with Embid. Embid cant even run back n play defense.
Wemby is easily top 10. Might be top 3. No one in the league can do all the things he does. Height shouldnt be a knock on him for the amount of blocks he gets. Height is a skill you cant teach. So what he cant post up like AD. He does other players better. Wemby is better than Embiid. That shouldnt be a debate. Embiid was mvp level at one time. Hes not now.
@@penkima4923 Defense matters for sure, but impact is what’s most important. LeBron, Luka, and Magic were just more impactful than Wemby at his current age it’s simple. LeBron averaged 31,7,7 and was 1st Team All NBA, 2nd in MVP Voting (Should’ve won). Won the first round vs Wizards putting up incredible numbers, then lost in 7 games to the Pistons(Who just made 2 straight NBA Finals, winning in 2004). Series went 7 games while the Cavs 2nd leading scorer was averaging 10 points….let that sink in. Luka averaged 28,8,9 and was 1st Team All NBA. In the playoffs proceeded to go 7 games vs the Clippers with his 2nd leading scorer being Tim Hardaway Jr 😂. Luka averaged 36,8 and 10 that series. And I don’t even gotta mention Magic, that’s a given. The 3 of them were easily better and more impactful at this point of their careers. It’s no knock on Wemby he’s going to be a generational player, but it’s just facts.
@@Ssjiskkidjj Luka getting eliminated in the first round isn't more impactful than Wemby's impact on defense. The series didn't go 7 games like you claimed. Rookie Magic at 20 years old was putting up 18 points per game, 7 assists and 7 rebounds, and 4 turnovers per game. He played a great game 7 in the finals, but that was still Kareem's team. Out of those, LeBron has an argument of being the better player at age 20, but we don't know yet what Wemby's going to do this season.
Magic averaged a triple double in the playoffs and led his team to the finals, winning finals mvp he was definitely better. Luka was more impactful than Wemby is now, 1st Team All NBA and generational playoff numbers as a 20 year old. Almost taking out a Clippers team that were title favorites. LeBron is a given, that’s the goat he was more impactful than Wemby for sure. Agree to disagree though. 👍🏻
@@Ssjiskkidjj Magic never averaged a triple double in the playoffs in his career. And as I said, Magic didn't lead his team in his rookie season. Kareem did. And Kareem won the Finals MVP, but since he wasn't present at the venue, they gave the trophy to Magic. Wemby will definitely be the leader of his team this season, no matter where they end up. As I said, the Clippers eliminated Luka and the Mavs 4-2. Not in 7 games as you claimed. Luka put up good numbers, also turning the ball over over 5 times per game. Wemby has a good chance of putting up better numbers in the playoffs, if they make the playoffs.
Rudy Gobert has been a better defensive player than Embiid his entire career and Wemby smoked that year 1. Nobody breaks a 3 on 1 fast break for Joel Embiid. Stop this right now! Embiid is definitely way more polished offensively. Wemby is way more talented but he's not nearly as efficient offensively. For everything he does well... There's also a lot of mistakes, misreads, bad timing, bad shooting decisions etc... But he's learning quick. I think by the end of this NBA season, Wemby will be the best player in the NBA on both ends (Which is insane considering he hasn't even come close to reaching his physical peak yet).
Being healthy is half the game so not sure what you getting at. Ralph Sampson can do some crazy stuff at his size but none of that matters because he can not stay healthy.
Jokic Giannis Luka SGA Davis KD Tatum Embiid Bron Curry KAT He’s close though. I guess if it’s strictly this season. He may have been better than Embiid and Curry
Why do y'all equate blocks to being a better defender?!? Wemby is weak he can be moved around in a physical game. Im not ready to glaze him. I need more evidence. I haven't seen enough to glaze him the way y'all glazing him
Davis and embid ahead on Wemby , hilarious!!! These guys are smoking some good shit , Wemby becoming top 3 player right now , he’s the future of the league !!
Wemby's last 15 games:
- 30.2 PPG
- 10.3 RPG
- 4.9 APG
- 3.9 BPG
- 51/39/87%
- 64.2 TS%
10.9 BPM
is this not top 10 ?
If he continues doing what hes doing hes gonna be one of three players including hakeem and kareem to average 25 10 and 4 blocks. 36% from 3 on 9 attempts, 88% from the line. I genuinely hope he stays healthy cuz if he does hes gonna a top 5 talent ever
Those numbers for a 7'4 guy on THAT many 3 pt attempts can't be real man
wemby is 100% a better defender than embiid wtf chill on
He is no doubt!!
Yup
these people got no clue
Embiid defense overrated
1000%
*VICTOR WEMBANYAMA’S DECEMBER STATS*
29 PPG
11 RPG
5 APG
5 BPG
1 SPG
90% FT
39% 3pt (off 10 attempts)
49% FG
Currently #8 on the MVP Ladder
6 now it got updated today
@ you’re telling me victor wembanMAMBA is sixth on the MVP ladder…?
@@studentofthesaviors.o.s yes
@@gpoleur I don’t know if that’s more surprising or that LeBron James’s number 10 lol
Damn. 5 blocks a game? I have been working too much and haven't watched much basketball this season. Sours are my team too. I really need to watch a Spurs game. I really want to see how Chris Paul is doing too
"thats just rim protection" bruh wemby is literally 10x better than embiid on the perimeter too. he also blocks JUMPSHOTS, gets more steals and deter ppl from even attempting anything. hes 10x better than embiid on defense lol.
what puts Wemby over Embiid is his mentality.
just look at how they each handled the Olympics.
Yup
@@Vastatio dumb logic
He also takes charges, which frustrates opponents so much they get ejected from games.
Embiid has better interior defense with his strength and power and he dropped 70 on wemby weak defense 😂
Can we stop with this "oh wemby don't understand defense and just blocks shots" narrative that chill pushes? If you watch a Spurs game you can see that Wemby blocks JUMPSHOTS and plays STELLAR defense on the perimeter as well as the paint. Are we not gonna talk about the double perimeter blocks he got against the Knicks? or the two misses he forced against Trae Young in the Hawks game? Wemby is easily the best overall defender in the NBA and it ain't close.
His teammates don't understand defense. When Wemby leaves the spurs turn into one of the worst
I don’t think they watch the spurs games in general ….. this discussion felt like a grampa who just look at box score
@@cheeto8960 he ain’t leaving but I agree outside of Castle and Sochan he has no help defensively
@@bambabarry that’s exactly what they do 💀💀 they just recall good games from star players than just bro science that shit and make it sound like it makes sense. Like the term not understanding defense and 4 blocks per game should not be in the same sentence, tons of rangy defensive players who can’t do what Wemby can
@@DaintyBroom2233 its the same as « well 4block ? He is 7’4 , of course he should get that » ……..a bunch of yappers
Wemby is unreal and still underrated lmao
If he was from Charlotte or something and playing for a big market the hype would be through the roof
Also Joel didn’t put 70 on wemby that’s was on collins
Real and sochan. Plus u know u cant even put a hand on embiid or he'll flop like he's 5'8 140 when hes 7'1 and like 300 pounds
Facts. People just look at the stat line and don’t watch the game.
Yeah, people piss me off each they repeat this stupid sentence. They probably looked at the box score and made this judgement, which is wrong btw. He scored 16 on him.
Imagine avg 4 blocks a game and you dont understand defense 😂
Its going over your head. The kid is getting these blocks because of his freak frame and slender man arms. Chill is saying that he doesn’t understand the details of defensive schemes, communication, and rotation. Even though he gets all these blocks it’s from pure talent and not much else and he’s right.
That does happen. Some people are just good at blocking and they may not understand the game.
If the play doesnt result in a turnover or a better situation to the defense is a 'bad' block. Thats why draymond is still considered a top defender player on the league while not having stats, pretty much anything that he does on the defense colaborates to his team being in a better position. Thats why rudy win the dpoy and i can go on.
Just for shits and giggles, it doesnt matter if he's having 4 blocks a game if he still manages to get 30 on his head and 40 on the rest of his team by embiid or any elite player.
@@breno5029man yall be saying anything 😂The advanced stats don’t even back up Anything your talking about.
In wembys rookie season his team without him on the court was a bottom tier team defensively.(25-30th)
With wemby on the court his team was a top 5 defensive team.
@@yohoncho2011 I understand that, but players with understanding of playing defense dont produce no where near what wemby has on defense. Wemby has to understand enough to avg 4 blocks, multiple 10 block games
this shouldnt be much of a debate to me hes very clearly a top 10 player itl
Nope, that’s a negative.
I got him at 7-8 range
@@SsjiskkidjjGood joke. Since nov. 8 Wemby is averaging 30ppg 10rebs 4blks and 4assists on 50/40/88 splits.💯💯
Top 10 most entertaining yes. But he's not a top 10 player yet.
@@upfulsoul826Since Nov. 8
Wemby is averaging 30ppg 10rebs 4blks and 4assists on 50/40/88 splits! You are absolutely clueless about basketball.🏀💯💯
I feel like people don't watch Wemby play defense. People must think he stands at the rim and racks up blocks just because he's tall. He regularly blocks jumpshots which needs insane reflexes, he gets beat on the perimeter but is quick enough to still get the block, he can guard both guys in the PnR and blocks/disrupts lobs like every game, he also grabs a steal every now and then by picking off passes, if he's anywhere near the rim a lot of guys refuse to put up a shot... Watch games goddammit
i rewatched embiids 70 point game and he only dropped 18 on wemby the rest on sochan and collins
Yes... plus 23 FTs which didn't come from Wemby's fouls.
Mix KG and KD and make him 7 ft 4. U got wemby.
INSANE
Chet Wemby rivalry started before they were in the league I’m pretty sure it was like u19 Olympics or something. And ignored even further since they shared their rookie seasons. Love the fire between them when they play we need more of that within the league.
Apparently also Chet disrespected Wemby and his family in the tunnel when they were teens and Wemby has been hot about it since
@ lol yea that would do it😭
Eddy was in those game also and actully was giving both of them buckets
@@Twentyinch_Hubs Source?
U17 world cup
Embid never put 70 on Wemby, Sochan was guarding him most of the game, ppl don’t make sense
i think he had around 16-18 on wemby. Its just a false narrative people push without watching the games.. just like the recent flopping narrative being pushed by some people from the sixers game. Smh !
It was Zach Collins now than Sochan
Yeah and how did Embiid dropped 70 on Wemby when Wemby was in foul trouble early and was riding the bench most of the first half. These fools are hating on Wemby so bad they have to create this stupid narrative
@@MrJed010so why was he in foul trouble ? It sounds like he couldn’t guard Joel 😂
@@whatwouldnoviedo4571 because the refs falls for embiid's soft flopping ass with those foul baiting sh*t. But props to embiid for taking wemby out of the game, so the point still stands, he did not drop 70 on wemby. Also wemby was a rookie, when is "cooking" a rookie impressive? If anything, wemby made embiid a clown by dropping 33 pts on him as a rookie and even in minutes restriction.
This Wemby is a Dangerous kid
If you look at the fantasy points, Wemby was 7th last year and he’s currently 3rd… so I think it’s a good way to go, he’s clearly a top 10 player
3rd for the season. I think in the most recent stretch he's number 1. He had a slow start to the season.
He had a rough start to the season. In this most recent stretch of games he's been number 1. I'd put him in my top 3 easily, and it's crazy to think he's going to get better.
I think you can START to have a conversation at AD. Otherwise yeah Victor is pretty clearly Top 10 now. And he's improving by the day.
I've been saying, for his whole like Wemby has been used to always be the best player on the floor. Last season wasn't comfortable for him. He's not going to let this situation last too much longer.
I watched that game. Zach Collins guarded Joel Embid and dropped about 50 out of that 70 on him NOT WEMBY that narrative has to stop
If you compare Wemby to the best version of Embiid, sure Embiid is still better today. But you gotta take the good and the bad, and Embiid right now also means injuries, shenanigans and low motivation. Telling it like it is.
Wemby isn’t only a rim protector tho he routinely blocks 3 pointers ever game
Wemby suckers players into thinking they have a clear shot, so his defensive play looks different. But it is just as effective as the traditional type of defense if not more so. Sometimes, instead of looking directly at his opponent, he looks to the side which tricks the shooter and he ends up getting his shot blocked. Wemby also collapses off his man at the last second to block a shot of someone else's man. He covers more ground than a shortstop it seems.
Wemby is the Iron Dome! Players don’t even want to attempt a shot 80-90% of the time they approach his air space and he’s blocking shots off of raw talent and athleticism. When the game slows down and his experience and instincts overlap, it’s gonna be must-see TV!
top 10 for sure
YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW GOOD TIM DUNCAN WAS
CURRY VS WEMBY LAST 20 GAMES:
Wemby: 27/10/4/4/1 on 63% TS
Curry: 23/4/6/1/0.5 on 61% TS
During this stretch, Wemby has 11 wins, Curry has 8.
You tell me who has been better.
Old head always protects his older players
Ad has become severely underrated
The only reason they have certain people over wemby is cuz he started slow and is only at 25ppg cuz of it, when the season goes on and he’s averaging over 27 while winning DPOY and hitting hundreds of 3s the Ad thing won’t be a debate and I also think he will pass embiid
Embid is better 1:1 in the paint but that’s about it, once Wemby gets stronger it won’t be close, Wemby is also a better overall player especially in defense, and he’s gonna get a lot better indeed, but that’s not an argument vs Embid
1. Jokic
2. Giannis
3. Luka doncic
4.Jason Tatum
5. SGA
SGA is a top 3 player
This is crazy I said Wemby was a top 10 player before the season started people said
I didn't know basketball
But now everyone wants to get on the train saying he a top ten player lmfao
Did people realise that he was the best player in the Olympics look at his stats he lead his team in everything he dominated usa only reason they didn't win is because fhe chef pulled a rabbit out of the hat
Wemby almost single handedly beat the avengers
I'm French and was at the Olympics. No Victor wasn't the best player, maybe except in the final, Yabu was.
@@christopheb.6121 he lead in all 5 stats man he just was the best
@AlphaAbyss_leading in all stats doesnt necessarily mean you are the best, he got alot of shots and wasnt efficient.
@@onety3578 you would have to make a incredible argument for that not to be the case let's hear it
The defensive stats that won't even show is the amount of shots not taken because of Wemby's presence.
What do I think? Wemby made the NBA All Defensive team 2023 - 2024 as a Rookie!!! Barring injury - He will probably make that team 10 times in 10 years. How many "jump shots" has Embid blocked in the last 5 years? If I'm shooting a 3 point shot "no one" is worried about Embid. (LOL) How many times has Embid been considered for Defensive Player of the year? Exactly. Real talk "according to the numbers" - Wemby was the real winner of Defensive Player of the year last year (Rookie Season)! - Mic Drop. Just an opinion.
Y'all remember the block Wemby had on Sabonis ? Embiid wouldn't make that block if he was healthier than a mf.
Saying Joel embid is close to wemby in defence is too crazy man 😂
Minus his block, wemby gravity on defence is proberbly the most gravity on defence if all time
For a 7,4 guy bro is extremely mobile and also very flexible soo he could block shots in the difference ways like the block on sabonas
All love tho❤😂
Joel at his peak was all defense, Could switch onto guards at times, defended the rim at a high level and had high gravity as well. Wemby is elite but we crowning his defense prematurely with statements like this
@@11credible You just don't understand what Wemby is doing on defense then
@@11credibleCROWNING HIS DEFENSE PREMATURELY!! Victor Wembanyama is the first player in NBA HISTORY to make 1st team all defense in his rookie year. Wemby has more blocks than Shaq in his first 92 games and Wemby was a year younger as a rookie. I watched Embiid when he was healthy he was NOT getting 10 block games and 5*5's. 💯💯
@@11crediblestop it.Nobody said Embiid was never a good defender.But he WAS NOT this good.Its that simple.
@@11credibleWembys obviously winning dpoy this year
Looks like Pen was right at the beginning of the season after all
These guys are mixing up being Gifted and being Talented, it's just like the argument for MVP and MOP.
It's okay to hate Embiid but to claim Wemby's better just cause he's hurt or you don't like him is ridiculous. The guy with the sunglasses is doing too much. He really believes top players in the league think wemby better than them. Lool
Saying Wemby is a worse defender than worst defender than AD had my brain melt, however Embiid still better for how well he processes offense
He's top five right now!
Not yet better than Tatum or Luka
Bruh I saw wemby play defense in the paint he covered all ground in the paint dude is tall asf
1. Wemby 2. SGA we finally got two way players 🙌
Wemby top 1
Wemby is a better overall player now than Embid.
Bol with the shades be chatting bro.
There are only two players who Wemby couldn't replace their superstar to make that team better - maybe three. Shai, Jokic and Mitchell. IOW, Wemby is the fourth best player in the league. In every other case, the team would be better with Wemby rather than their star player.
1:52 I’m with Ron no way y’all letting KD slide😂
Wemby started off super slow in the first 9 games he played this year but in the 17 games since his averages are 29/10/4/4 on 50/40/85 shooting splits , all while being the best defensive player in the league.
If we are talking about right now who’s are the top 10 players I’m not sure what else he can do other than have a bigger sample size so people understand it’s real because those are mvp numbers especially when you factor in his defense.
It’s the sample size for me. I love Wemby. I just have other criteria’s. Playoff performances, seasonal accolades, etc. He’s also an anomaly. The numbers he’s putting up are insane. He’ll definitely be in Jokic convo’s in 2-3 seasons as the best player in the world. That’s not a slight towards Wemby. He’ll be more polished by then.
I used to value chill’s opinions omg 😭😭
Now look, Chill. As I said before, I'm with you on giving young players time to develop, but with Wemby it's different because, as I also said, by year five he will be the best player in the world, so him being top 10 isn't a stretch.
I'm fine with Wemby in top 10 conversations. But I also have a firm belief that getting into the top 10 should be difficult. Most players in there have a long body of work. Someone having their first elite year shouldn't all of a sudden be better than someone who's also playing elite, and they've been doing so for 6 years. I agreed with the direction of the convo until there was a hesitation to rank AD over Wemby. I think AD is convincingly better.
If you're platine atypique a top 10 level you're top 10 that's easy
He better make the Offs
Joel put 70 on Zach Collins be fr
to por anyone besides jokic on above wemby is laughable, but to have AD, Shay, Lebron and Tatum above him, I sono almost fell on the floor and died from laughter, LMFAO
He is. In no order…
Wemby, Jokic, Giannis, Luka, SGA, Tatum, LeBron, KD, Steph, & AD.
Get Tatum out of there…
@@BillWithers-hu3zz tatum is a top 10 player
@@BillWithers-hu3zzTatum is clearly top 10 lol
Honestly i have him at 6-7 i was going through the list of players and never realised how high up he is
Curry in their it a lot of gaurd playing better than curry right now dame and lamelo and kyrie and Trae young all playing better than him and curry is starting to loose step
If Wemby doesn`t understand defense, then i`m sorry but if that were true, then nobody in NBA history understands it.
a Rookie Wemby was a better defender then a prime Rudy Gobert who despite Gobert`s flaws, is a great defender in his own right
It’s tough because he is that good, but he’s still so raw and far from his peak form and there’s still so much left on the table in his game that it’s hard to put him in the top 10 over more well-formed players.
I don’t think embiid ever been then wemby on defense ngl
Give me wemby over anyone not named Jokic
Embiid has played at a higher level but that doesn’t make him a better basketball player than Wemby. There’s a difference between you being a better player overall than someone and you just playing at a higher level. And Embiid has just played at a higher level
I know wemby better make it too the playoffs all this glazing
Who can clear the floor like wimby????
Unc out there have never watched a spurs game in the last 15 of them …… that’s it
You can hear in his tone when he spekas of Wemby that he doesnt like him. But its not about liking a player, its whether the player is good or not regardless of how i personallly feel about a player. Wemby today is a better player, more reliable player and better defensive player than Embid. Calm down old man
There is no way wemby is above AD but not bron 🤣🤣🤣 tht boy smoking somm different
Why is Deion on the Panel just a Genuine ? He brings nothing to the tabel but brainles takes
Top 5
Just because is not american people hate on him...😢😢😂
Wemby was 2nd in dpoy as a rookie. What the hell is this guy talking about!
if i had first pick for any player in league to build my team around, i will take Wemby n never look back. 💯 homeboy with glasses is delusional with Embid. Embid cant even run back n play defense.
Wemby is easily top 10. Might be top 3. No one in the league can do all the things he does. Height shouldnt be a knock on him for the amount of blocks he gets. Height is a skill you cant teach. So what he cant post up like AD. He does other players better. Wemby is better than Embiid. That shouldnt be a debate. Embiid was mvp level at one time. Hes not now.
Luka Bron and Magic were definitely better than Wemby at 20 years old. Wemby is still HIM though.
Definitely? Out of those only Luka put up better numbers offensively, and Wemby clears them all on defense.
@@penkima4923 Defense matters for sure, but impact is what’s most important.
LeBron, Luka, and Magic were just more impactful than Wemby at his current age it’s simple.
LeBron averaged 31,7,7 and was 1st Team All NBA, 2nd in MVP Voting (Should’ve won). Won the first round vs Wizards putting up incredible numbers, then lost in 7 games to the Pistons(Who just made 2 straight NBA Finals, winning in 2004). Series went 7 games while the Cavs 2nd leading scorer was averaging 10 points….let that sink in.
Luka averaged 28,8,9 and was 1st Team All NBA. In the playoffs proceeded to go 7 games vs the Clippers with his 2nd leading scorer being Tim Hardaway Jr 😂. Luka averaged 36,8 and 10 that series.
And I don’t even gotta mention Magic, that’s a given. The 3 of them were easily better and more impactful at this point of their careers. It’s no knock on Wemby he’s going to be a generational player, but it’s just facts.
@@Ssjiskkidjj Luka getting eliminated in the first round isn't more impactful than Wemby's impact on defense. The series didn't go 7 games like you claimed.
Rookie Magic at 20 years old was putting up 18 points per game, 7 assists and 7 rebounds, and 4 turnovers per game. He played a great game 7 in the finals, but that was still Kareem's team.
Out of those, LeBron has an argument of being the better player at age 20, but we don't know yet what Wemby's going to do this season.
Magic averaged a triple double in the playoffs and led his team to the finals, winning finals mvp he was definitely better.
Luka was more impactful than Wemby is now, 1st Team All NBA and generational playoff numbers as a 20 year old. Almost taking out a Clippers team that were title favorites.
LeBron is a given, that’s the goat he was more impactful than Wemby for sure. Agree to disagree though. 👍🏻
@@Ssjiskkidjj Magic never averaged a triple double in the playoffs in his career. And as I said, Magic didn't lead his team in his rookie season. Kareem did. And Kareem won the Finals MVP, but since he wasn't present at the venue, they gave the trophy to Magic. Wemby will definitely be the leader of his team this season, no matter where they end up.
As I said, the Clippers eliminated Luka and the Mavs 4-2. Not in 7 games as you claimed. Luka put up good numbers, also turning the ball over over 5 times per game. Wemby has a good chance of putting up better numbers in the playoffs, if they make the playoffs.
Dude is a LeBron glazer and now wemby glazer. These type of nba fans are embarrassing.
Chill said randle better then wemby
But he didnt beat us the knicks lets go
Old guys buggin
Embiids never put 70 on Wemby, 100% hater
1. Shai
2. Jokic
3. Giannis
4. Tatum
5. Lamelo
6. Tatum
7. AD
8. Maxey
9. Donovan
10. J. Brown
11. Wemby
12. Cade
You don’t believe that stop trolling
😂
Lamelo 🤣😂
@ Top 4 scoring 😆
@@kushmaster210im so dead.. they don't even try to to hide their bias.
He’s clearly better than lebron and kd lol.
Rudy Gobert has been a better defensive player than Embiid his entire career and Wemby smoked that year 1. Nobody breaks a 3 on 1 fast break for Joel Embiid. Stop this right now!
Embiid is definitely way more polished offensively. Wemby is way more talented but he's not nearly as efficient offensively. For everything he does well... There's also a lot of mistakes, misreads, bad timing, bad shooting decisions etc... But he's learning quick.
I think by the end of this NBA season, Wemby will be the best player in the NBA on both ends (Which is insane considering he hasn't even come close to reaching his physical peak yet).
Wemby not better then Chet rn he just been hurt
Whenever Chet averages 25,10,5,4 I’ll buy what you’re selling. You don’t know ball gramps.
@ y’all ride that man meat he just tall he ain’t doing nun special
chet is the one sitting on his butt when playing victor ?
Being healthy is half the game so not sure what you getting at. Ralph Sampson can do some crazy stuff at his size but none of that matters because he can not stay healthy.
@ if Chet had his own team he’ll have better numbers 🤡
Joker, Luka two best players in NBA right now.
EMBIID IS A BETTER DEFENDER?????
How Embiid can be a better defender than Victor?! 😂
Lebron is 39....and is not better then wimby he make everybody run
Wemby is only 20 years old and much better than Embid
Wemby is better than Tatum a million times!
Jokic
Giannis
Luka
SGA
Davis
KD
Tatum
Embiid
Bron
Curry
KAT
He’s close though. I guess if it’s strictly this season. He may have been better than Embiid and Curry
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BRO. TATUM SLANDER IS OVER WITH. HE'S TOP 5 BASICALLY TOP 3.
The Tatum Hate trend is dead.
Why would he be top-3 now? He doesn't put up top-10 numbers, and we know he's a choker.
Yeah Tatum barely top 20
@@penkima4923 L take
@@BillWithers-hu3zz L take.
Tatum is definitely better than Wemby rn but he’s not Top 3 or Top 5.
He's clearly top 5 and has a realcase to be top 3. Aren't 5 people on earth that can compare to his physical tools and impact
Why do y'all equate blocks to being a better defender?!? Wemby is weak he can be moved around in a physical game. Im not ready to glaze him. I need more evidence. I haven't seen enough to glaze him the way y'all glazing him
Luka?
Wemby’s offense still isn’t as consistent as it will be. No bread & butter moves. Embiid has areas of the floor he’s mastered.
Wemby has been great everywhere on offense this season
@ is October-November considered a part of the season?
@@DwayneChesswemby is shooting 48/36/88 splits. On 61%ts that is amazing
@ 7’5 shooting 48% from the field?
@@DwayneChess half his shots are 3s, still true shooting percentage is really high. And he was sick in the beginning of the year
I'm not taking the ball in the paint because Joel is in there....said no nba player ever...fail
Wimby is better then luka embiid
Nah, unc on something thinking Embiid is better than Wemby.
Davis and embid ahead on Wemby , hilarious!!! These guys are smoking some good shit , Wemby becoming top 3 player right now , he’s the future of the league !!
Marz is getting fat 😂😂😂 (pause)
what part of this was pauseworthy
@ You’re my guy mars (fat) is pauseworthy. At least in NY. We can’t say anything anymore 😂😂😂
Lebron is not playing like a top 10 guy.