Great sheat. i love it. Are you going to make a similiar one with the Karazad Acc´s which are known by today´s Global Labs Update? The Questions in the end are: - Pen Debo Click or buy for NOV(Dan)? - Tet Debo exchange and upgrade with crons? - or better sell Debos and enhance from base? - Where is the optimal failstack (time / money effecient) thats why i love this sheet so much for the sov weapons. Hope to see some similiar one for the Karazad´s
- Pen Debo Click or buy for NOV(Dan)? Clicking PEN debo (currently) with hammers or raw + the failstack cost is not worth, buying is cheeper. unless u wanna gamble, u buy^^ - Tet Debo exchange and upgrade with crons? saw some sheets here and there (like choice sheet), the cost to upgrade the kazarad are pretty low, so it might be a decent decision to go from V -> IX kazarad instead of the IV -> V debo route since u can get stats along the way. overall its pretty much similar costwise from what i saw so far. - or better sell Debos and enhance from base? base -> V kazarad seems to be also pretty cheep, so might be an option too. - Where is the optimal failstack (time / money effecient) i didnt look at the kazarad enhancement levels from base up to NOV since i wont need them, but for DEC itself its pretty much ~315fs what u wanna use (300fs+13 valks+whatever ur enhance rate is). everything beyond that isnt really worth it unless u value the time-gated stones u will need for the DEC clicks very high and wanna save some by doing less clicks on avg. i prob will use a 316fs or slightly above that^^ glad u liked the sheet :D but i dont plan on doing another video for the kazarads, it also seems to be way less important to use certain stacks now (less stack dependend enhancing), the suggested failstacks by PA seem to be somewhat properly picked. im gonna pin ur comment in case another person thought about the same, but more than answering ur questions here and suggesting u maybe choices sheet (docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18WHtnXEt4A8BG0g6uoF4G3UJlWcfbj1WUvBHT-GtGkI/htmlview?gid=0#gid=0) i dont have much more to suggest :x
Hey cheers, saw my "napkin math" post referenced early in here, awesome video, I'm excited to see how people sit/push with Sovereign but expecting a lot of V-VII
Some things to be mentioned: - spreadsheet available in video description - dont expect numbers to be 100% perfect. most of them are very accurate. if in doubt during the video on which numbers to trust, take the ones closer towards the end, i did change up numbers multiple times during the video editing process. - failstack price tags are somewhat accurate, unless someone more into the topic like a BiohackTV releases his pricetags on his failstacks, i think u can work with the pricetags i gave them. copying something im doing in the game is probably not to bad considering the position i am in, am i right? P:
very interesting! i was actually pretty close just playing around with a simple cron cost spread sheet, but better save then sorry. my initial values where 116 (tri),150 (tet), 200 (pen), 250 (hex), 316 sep+oct. now i probably go with close what you suggest for the fail stacks i dont already have too high. as for your 500+ stack... i have the feeling they toned down nov and dec a lot to make it interesting for more "casuals" like me. i definitly feel like you fs would be wasted on everything rn. armors are pretty meh, weapons would have been interesting if not for the lower stack requirement. who knows what they bring out next.
not gonna lie, I'm only hoping to go for a +3 and I hope to get at least a +2, my first pen blackstar was a god eye, my second was the same weapon so that I could guarantee myself fg weapon. I at least have tet god eye for my mh and off hand and I'm a witch main so my accuracy and stats aren't lacking too bad but thanks for the video it was entertaining and informative
Hey LeDuck can we get a similar breakdown on current accessories that are worth cron stones? Outside tet/pen debos i'm starting to think its not worth to use crons on base->tri and most other accessories.
afaik there isnt any accessories u wanna cron atm, on RARE occassions tri > tet debo would be worth to cron, but 99% of the time it is not worth currently. outside of random shit like manos ruby earrings for pvp players that u might wanna cron i dont think u want to cron anything anymore. put the crons into sov weapons ^^
Great sheat. i love it. Are you going to make a similiar one with the Karazad Acc´s which are known by today´s Global Labs Update?
The Questions in the end are:
- Pen Debo Click or buy for NOV(Dan)?
- Tet Debo exchange and upgrade with crons?
- or better sell Debos and enhance from base?
- Where is the optimal failstack (time / money effecient)
thats why i love this sheet so much for the sov weapons. Hope to see some similiar one for the Karazad´s
- Pen Debo Click or buy for NOV(Dan)?
Clicking PEN debo (currently) with hammers or raw + the failstack cost is not worth, buying is cheeper. unless u wanna gamble, u buy^^
- Tet Debo exchange and upgrade with crons?
saw some sheets here and there (like choice sheet), the cost to upgrade the kazarad are pretty low, so it might be a decent decision to go from V -> IX kazarad instead of the IV -> V debo route since u can get stats along the way. overall its pretty much similar costwise from what i saw so far.
- or better sell Debos and enhance from base?
base -> V kazarad seems to be also pretty cheep, so might be an option too.
- Where is the optimal failstack (time / money effecient)
i didnt look at the kazarad enhancement levels from base up to NOV since i wont need them, but for DEC itself its pretty much ~315fs what u wanna use (300fs+13 valks+whatever ur enhance rate is). everything beyond that isnt really worth it unless u value the time-gated stones u will need for the DEC clicks very high and wanna save some by doing less clicks on avg. i prob will use a 316fs or slightly above that^^
glad u liked the sheet :D but i dont plan on doing another video for the kazarads, it also seems to be way less important to use certain stacks now (less stack dependend enhancing), the suggested failstacks by PA seem to be somewhat properly picked. im gonna pin ur comment in case another person thought about the same, but more than answering ur questions here and suggesting u maybe choices sheet (docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18WHtnXEt4A8BG0g6uoF4G3UJlWcfbj1WUvBHT-GtGkI/htmlview?gid=0#gid=0) i dont have much more to suggest :x
Hey cheers, saw my "napkin math" post referenced early in here, awesome video, I'm excited to see how people sit/push with Sovereign but expecting a lot of V-VII
Thanks a lot for the WHY behind the video!
this was very well made! well done duck
Some things to be mentioned:
- spreadsheet available in video description
- dont expect numbers to be 100% perfect. most of them are very accurate. if in doubt during the video on which numbers to trust, take the ones closer towards the end, i did change up numbers multiple times during the video editing process.
- failstack price tags are somewhat accurate, unless someone more into the topic like a BiohackTV releases his pricetags on his failstacks, i think u can work with the pricetags i gave them. copying something im doing in the game is probably not to bad considering the position i am in, am i right? P:
Nice Video, so i have to think over my +9 FS :D
Good job btw.👌
GL on taps ♥
niiiiiiice danke!
very interesting! i was actually pretty close just playing around with a simple cron cost spread sheet, but better save then sorry. my initial values where 116 (tri),150 (tet), 200 (pen), 250 (hex), 316 sep+oct. now i probably go with close what you suggest for the fail stacks i dont already have too high.
as for your 500+ stack... i have the feeling they toned down nov and dec a lot to make it interesting for more "casuals" like me. i definitly feel like you fs would be wasted on everything rn. armors are pretty meh, weapons would have been interesting if not for the lower stack requirement. who knows what they bring out next.
Great job man, really appreciate it _
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Crazyness
Failing exceling
not gonna lie, I'm only hoping to go for a +3 and I hope to get at least a +2, my first pen blackstar was a god eye, my second was the same weapon so that I could guarantee myself fg weapon. I at least have tet god eye for my mh and off hand and I'm a witch main so my accuracy and stats aren't lacking too bad
but thanks for the video it was entertaining and informative
Hey LeDuck can we get a similar breakdown on current accessories that are worth cron stones? Outside tet/pen debos i'm starting to think its not worth to use crons on base->tri and most other accessories.
afaik there isnt any accessories u wanna cron atm, on RARE occassions tri > tet debo would be worth to cron, but 99% of the time it is not worth currently. outside of random shit like manos ruby earrings for pvp players that u might wanna cron i dont think u want to cron anything anymore. put the crons into sov weapons ^^
With the update a few weeks out now (12 sep) any change in strategy?
no not really, should still pretty much be this o7
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Why is the cron value set to 1.7 in the sheet?
its only set to 1.7 for the MENA region since they got outfits sitting on market. in the sheet u can change the value at any point
@@leduckbdo8042 They still didn't get the price update for crons? Wow good for them.
Yo LeDuck when are you going to respond to Ace Alpha ? xD
hmm?
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