I always figured we're finally in a post-post-modern movement where things aren't just random and meaningless to be random and meaningless anymore. Things are now random and meaningless but shared so it can garner a collective meaning. An inside joke for everybody right?
But is it art? Or: fuck art, let's dance. We've moved from comedians screaming Bush is a war criminal (true, but not funny) to shitposting as a refined form of masturbation, with the hopes some anonymous stranger will indulge us in a happy ending. It's not nearly as smart or intellectual. It is simply lacking in the ability to laugh at ourselves.
@@quintessenceSL Yeah they went from screaming about the President being a war criminal, and then to the President's skin color, and then to the President's richness and misogyny, and his skin color, and now finally it's a rave that the president is a dying dementious marionette. Oh and can't forget about President Sex-Pervert before Bush.
@Wiley Combs You went in for calling me Hitler real fast there man, it's not great system, not even a good one, but its a better use of our energy to build what's next that parrot system bad system collapse system bad. I know man, but society is not going to end. America will probably still be called America. The republic was not the empire and hitler's war kickstarted the information age. All's im asken' is arent you tired of repeating yourself to no one?
@@FortessOfMindahhh yeah I missed the part of roman history when they had technology that could actually end everything on a global scale. Really great insight you've shared-added so much to the conversation.
Hey, the only time we cringe is because a part of us sees a bit of that in us. The cringe is a small bit inside our heads who have been in that situation. If you have never been there how would you know it's cringe.
@@captaindanefinesse No, what you said was that is WAS caused by being relatable, and even specifically stated it can't be cringe if it isn't relatable, that is the opposite of what he said, he explained that you werre wrong and that cringe can be caused by more than just that one element.
I think plenty of comedy doesn’t have to be cringe. In fact, I think the only truly funny part of comedy is its subtlety. Even physical and outrageous comedy have to find a subtle environment to be outrageous in, where they subvert your expectations (which can’t happen without an element of subtlety). These shows tho, are just cringe. They are taking advantage of how relatable they are to kids while alienating the age group most kids’ parents would be, thus forming a cultural cocoon for kids to experience, together, as a demographic. Thus the show “strikes a chord” and is remembered years later (despite no one really being able to recall a funny moment). Not to say these shows don’t stumble onto a funny moment or sketch in the process, but I think this explains their comedic rhythm in general. SNL would dip into the cringe now and then, so it’s nothing new, but the average adult swim show, or RUclips channel, or modern sketch shows takes this lowest common denominator of relatability/meme-ability/viral-ability to an entirely new level.
@@subteeninhumansamuraiamphi5019 I'll agree that Tom was essentially the original troll. Eric is more than that. Maybe this is just personal but Tom never made me laugh. Eric has had me in stitches.
This video inspired me to watch I Think You Should Leave. And it's actually a pretty short show, six episodes per season 14 to 17 minutes per episode. I'm glad I consumed it. It gives me some stuff to think about for a long while to come.
That's one of the downsides of the death of monoculture due to the rise of the internet; so many of us miss popular media and it's honestly pretty alienating. There was a much bigger sense of community with others when everyone knew the stuff you were talking about because almost everyone watched that one show on that big network.
Monty Python is definitely an inspiration for this “New style of comedy”. It’s finding and exposing the absurd and ironic we find within ourselves and the society around us.
I don't really asociate this kind of humor to the internet, it's just how comedy has evolved, I actully relate ITYSL to Mr Show by Bob Odenkirk and David Cross, that show did not have a conection to the internet yet the type of comedy seems similar to me, and i love how it has evolved
I feel like you kinda missed Bo Burnhams Inside, which I think is a perfect example of how the internet changed comedy. The whole show is practically a love/hate letter to the internet and internet culture (among a lot of other themes of course)
Good catch. But I do think Bo used cinametic language and tricks to talk about the internet. Where these examples are more akin to how we communicate on the internet. Still would love to see more comparisons.
I love how you assume no one over 40 is watching this video & that this type of humor was invented on the internet. Rowan & Martin's Laff In, The Smothers Brothers, Monty Python & even the Muppet Show to a certain degree all existed in the mainstream prior to social media & cable channels. MTV & pay per view content seems like the most logical bridge to what is happening in media now. Subversion & comedy have been bedfellows for a long time.
Not really. There is no such thing as mass culture anymore (Marvel movies notwithstanding). Everything is niche. So if something is "famous", that just means it is famous within a certain subset of people.
I always thought the reason why people act weird online is the same psychological effect as road rage. Your not facing a human being, your facing an object.
i think of the current moment as dada 2.0 considering the circumstances it was created first doesnt give comfort but in a world you have to be mad as a hatter there is none anyway lets dont take it to serious and laugh about it
Isn't any Brechtian intent mostly sabotaged by the fact that we know from the start that these comedians are weird? To really alienate effectively, don't you need to be harder to pin down? For some reason, as a better example, I'm thinking of what Robert Rauschenberg said about going to Roy Lichtenstein's first show of pop paintings: 'I didn't know if they were bad or good and I liked that.'
@@Bizarro69 Nah! Or nah and yah. I like some theory a lot. I used to like Wisecrack videos better when they did the theory better. It has its place and can be fun and enlightening. Don't let the bad boring up in their heads theorists spoil the rest of it for you.
These are the exact reasons I've distanced myself almost entirely from social media. Once you take a step back, you really realize how stupid it is...even those I agree with.
Probably because in a world where supposedly we know so much, have access to so much and can create educated predictive models of so much… is it any wonder that so much of our humor now exist to fly in the face of all that
RIP to Trevor Moore of Whitest Kids U Know Though they were on TV their sketches made it to youtube at its beginning and were some of the earliest pieces of youtube memorabilia that goes uncherished
I still can't believe it. But those sketches are burned into my subconscious forever. Trevor playing the devil in the Everest sketch going "PEOPLE LIKE YOUUUUU" will never fail to make me cry laughing.
The comedy culture went from laughing at groups of people to laughing at individual in daily situations. Internet was the gateway to connecting with individuals across the globe.
I have never felt so old! Except for SNL, I did not recognize a single show in this video. That’s it; grandpa is out of here! See you never, homeslice!
Most new entertainment leaves me confused and detached. Glad I did not know what the first half of Gen Y was into in our collective 20s. Cannot say comedy is much a favorite of mine anymore.
Is it that the internet has made comedy weird? Or has the internet just expanded the potential for what can be done? Also, it shows that there is a kind of self-deprecation being displayed by the "left" that can be exploited.
Comedy has become lazy. It's not about content or thinking of witty comparisons, it's about new takes on played-out Old memes. Or people being as absurd as possible merely for the sake of being weird. I remember it started around the time of Ren & Stimpy when I was younger. And I like some of the Absurd stuff. I know as we get older, we kind of scoff at new humor. But old humor is always funny. It Stands the test of time.. There was a period when we realized how absurd and funny some of the old shows were but now it is forced. Not natural
Thanks, I honestly didn't know why people were acting like that. Even made me nauseous at times guess I should smoke or something... you know for nausea...
Why are we crazy online? Could it be people see things they think they should have opinions on and others filling roles in the narrative around them and want to make an impact? I dunno
The internet is the internet. Vine has morphed into Tik Tok, Redditors and 4Chan have migrated to RUclips, Twitter, Howard Stearn, and Mancow. College Humor, the Onion, and the Daily Show have turned into Nightline, 60 Minutes, NPR, C-SPAN, and public access TV. Wisecrack turns into psycho historical pop culture critique. I opened up an art history book detailing pop art from the past 100 years. It came across pretty much as chaotic and headache inducing as RUclips videos today. We're gearing back to the early days of zoetropes, vaudeville carnival acts, and View Masters, except now the View Masters are VR and AR, and the technology are more like contact lenses. People are what they've always been. What's changed is the technology, our sophistication, and our commonly held notions of what's fair. People are just shocked because now they're paying attention to what people are saying and demanding legal action. Which is messed up. If you're going to create content, choose a lane and stick with it, damn. Me, I went from not engaging at all to being super famous and influencing the fabric of society to being anonymous again. It's weird. Now I have to fight to procure basic stuff like laws against vandalization, privacy, honoring contracts, proper food labeling, etc.
Monty Python is definitely an inspiration for this “New style of comedy”. It’s finding and exposing the absurd and ironic we find within ourselves and the society around us.
The same doomerist vibe goes for Burnham in the new special. One of the definitive faces of early internet comedy. I agree with your conclusion (this comedy doesn't give you hope, it shows you reality) and that begs the question - should it actually give us something apart the cynicism? Well, I mean, if it is so, it can easily go the realm of self-assurence without anything to back it up, but if the contrary is true - then it can become just the same mind-numbing profitable show that tells us that we all are already dead
You make valid points. Recognizing the futility of life has been accepted for a while now. Hell, Monty Python made a whole movie on it. My personal issue with this is that there’s no point. It’s just,” obvious statement about life, now laugh.” I feel it needs some substance. Not the whole recycling bottles will fix climate change bull shit, but maybe some life is pointless might as well be kind to one another and enjoy the ride
I wonder if being the end of WW2 led to them recognizing the futility of life. And from that, we get the shonen anime someone solving all the problems with friends, and then shows like EVA, which is just depression on film
So you've told me why this comedy doesn't resonate with me. I only wish I could believe most people put this much thought into what they're watching. It's more likely people watch it because it "feels like" the other things they've been doing all day, without questioning any of it.
But there's got to be some kind of logic that exists underneath. Nobody thinks that just randomness for randomness's sake has any value. Right? Right?!?! Somebody say something!!!!
I love you guys so much. Usually you are on point, but dude, you didn't point out that comedy reflects what is going on in the times it is made. The social, wait I had to smoke, the social myths of how we have to be and what we actually think are very different. I love the shows you pointed out, but why are they jarring and slightly annoying? It is to make a point that shit is messed up, that nothing is taken off the table. We are all a little weird, but watching an extremely weird thing it makes us feel more normal. Comedy is always a reflection of life, and the internet does that best, because it literally has everything. In my mind I wish more people were online, to learn and to laugh. The world isn't in our hands, we can't change that... But we can joke and poke holes in the way it works. Comedy is really the only free speech one has. You know, I'm just saying, but what do I know.
"Weird Twitter in the late 00s and early 10s"? No, it comes from 4chan from around 2005. I know this channel can't say anything so controversial but 4chan was pioneering long before Twitter. Similarly Albinoblacksheep and other flash sites are potentially even more responsible. I wonder if you either don't remember this or whether it's because mentioning 4chan in a positive light wouldn't fit the message you're pushing?
I agree it’s almost like they gloss over the transition of that area from un mainstream to the norm today like drill comes from something awful forums. The internet humor of today it’s almost like a parody of the Internet humor of the previous decades in example with layers of irony and inside jokes, it’s almost like wise crack is out of touch with what “hip” because they use examples of absurd jokes like it’s fresh and new when I would say most mainstream media would consider it cringe worthy or “boomer” humor.
You have to wonder if they know what they’re talking about or if they just research it and take whatever google says as fact (despite google being about the same age as the early internet humor sites). And how many writers come up with this script? Whether it’s one person or a group of randomly aged persons, is problematic.
This whole video is drawing connections where there is none. "People post comedy show clips from TV to the internet but sometimes TV shows use comedy clips from TV that were posted on the internet. TV is very 'internetty'!" Uh ok
Theatre nerd here, I got very excited once you started talking about Brecht because that is pretty spot on for our current memes and comedic culture. I say this as someone who for her senior theater final dressed up as the Statue of Liberty and monologues the final speech from The Great Dictator
Yes, great idea. I always thought it was made by Hideaki Anno to show us what we think we wanted to see in Evangelion, only to find out we didn't know what we wanted, and partially due to "moe" culture, our expectations have been distorted while our misinterpretation of the original NGE series led us to want a series devoid of the meaning and depth that made the original so great. On that thought, they should do a What Went Wrong? of all 4 movies.
First time ever commenting on YT, but I've always described this as dadaist humour as the situation contains its own context but your understanding of the context affect your engagement with the text
Some guy bemoaned on Twitter that modern post internet history will remember Chris Chan (and the likes of) rather than figures like Aristotle, Einstein or Oppenheimer. He posed that, by remembering and immortalising the worst society has to offer (an extremely online reactionary caricature of what a human ought to be), future generations would grow up trying to emulate these people instead of the people history used to remember.
This video could not be more wrong when it starts to cover the origins of the online style of humor. Twitter and Tim and Eric had jack to do with any of it. SomethingAwful, Fat Chicks In Party Hats, Seanbaby, I-Mockery, Spatula-City, the Internet Wrestling Community and usenet newsgroups pioneered the sarcastic / absurdist / offensive nature of internet humor. The hack that made this video is clueless, and apparently thinks that the web was created in 2005.
Dude, your researchers need to watch more than the last 10 years of pop culture. Between Tom Green, Kids in the Hall, Sifl & Olly, Wonder Showzen... This is like watching somebody credit Denis Leary for the "angry smoking rant" with no awareness of who Bill Hicks was.
"when confronted with a destructive outcome that is clearly their doing, they will say, plain and simple, “I never did that,” and will to all appearances believe their own direct lie." ― Martha Stout, The Sociopath Next Door
I always figured we're finally in a post-post-modern movement where things aren't just random and meaningless to be random and meaningless anymore. Things are now random and meaningless but shared so it can garner a collective meaning. An inside joke for everybody right?
But is it art?
Or: fuck art, let's dance.
We've moved from comedians screaming Bush is a war criminal (true, but not funny) to shitposting as a refined form of masturbation, with the hopes some anonymous stranger will indulge us in a happy ending.
It's not nearly as smart or intellectual. It is simply lacking in the ability to laugh at ourselves.
You're describing why I am already sick of memes. Very few jokes should he inside jokes.
@@quintessenceSL Yeah they went from screaming about the President being a war criminal, and then to the President's skin color, and then to the President's richness and misogyny, and his skin color, and now finally it's a rave that the president is a dying dementious marionette.
Oh and can't forget about President Sex-Pervert before Bush.
@@ryansizemore5064 all jokes are inside jokes, homie
@@ryansizemore5064 Some of it is a little stale, but I think it's neat to play internet anthropology when you get a real wallop of a dense meme.
Larry David perfected the “I’m dying on this ridiculously absurd hill” type comedy. “I think you should leave” is a brilliant addition to the genre.
Definitely not brilliant. Waaaaaayyyy too many misses.
It's “Pretty good. Pretttttttty, pretttttttttty, pretttttty good.”
@@alexanderespinoza wrong
I love that wisecrack keeps hinting toward that fact that we need to start a violent revolution
I think thats just you man
@Wiley Combs The romans totally never thought that 200 years into a 800 year empire. The end is neigh!
@Wiley Combs You went in for calling me Hitler real fast there man, it's not great system, not even a good one, but its a better use of our energy to build what's next that parrot system bad system collapse system bad. I know man, but society is not going to end. America will probably still be called America. The republic was not the empire and hitler's war kickstarted the information age. All's im asken' is arent you tired of repeating yourself to no one?
@Wiley Combs dawg ain't no revolution happened yet
@@FortessOfMindahhh yeah I missed the part of roman history when they had technology that could actually end everything on a global scale. Really great insight you've shared-added so much to the conversation.
Seems there's a fine line between comedy and cringe content, a line perhaps even more blurred by subjective 'taste' in humor.
Hey, the only time we cringe is because a part of us sees a bit of that in us. The cringe is a small bit inside our heads who have been in that situation. If you have never been there how would you know it's cringe.
@Chops isn't that what I said?
@@captaindanefinesse No, what you said was that is WAS caused by being relatable, and even specifically stated it can't be cringe if it isn't relatable, that is the opposite of what he said, he explained that you werre wrong and that cringe can be caused by more than just that one element.
@@okaydetar821 schools in son 🚸
I think plenty of comedy doesn’t have to be cringe. In fact, I think the only truly funny part of comedy is its subtlety. Even physical and outrageous comedy have to find a subtle environment to be outrageous in, where they subvert your expectations (which can’t happen without an element of subtlety).
These shows tho, are just cringe. They are taking advantage of how relatable they are to kids while alienating the age group most kids’ parents would be, thus forming a cultural cocoon for kids to experience, together, as a demographic. Thus the show “strikes a chord” and is remembered years later (despite no one really being able to recall a funny moment).
Not to say these shows don’t stumble onto a funny moment or sketch in the process, but I think this explains their comedic rhythm in general.
SNL would dip into the cringe now and then, so it’s nothing new, but the average adult swim show, or RUclips channel, or modern sketch shows takes this lowest common denominator of relatability/meme-ability/viral-ability to an entirely new level.
You missed Tom Green who was pre-Tim & Eric and is also a pioneer in this style of humour
I think Tom green is similar but would be pre internet,
kinda in the same category as Andy Kaufman and maybe Andy milonakis?
@@vzacage Andy Kaufman humped a dead moose?
One day freddy got fingered will be seen as the masterpiece of comedic commentry that it is....
@@drewdavies3010 I agree, without irony
Daddy would you like some sausage?
I’m outraged that [obscure show / comedian] wasn’t mentioned.
Eric Andre is a pioneer in comedy.
That being said, I hope I never meet him.
Lmao same dude is hilarious, but if he pulled that weird shit on me 🥊
not really, he is just doing shit Tom Green did years ago.
@@subteeninhumansamuraiamphi5019 I'll agree that Tom was essentially the original troll. Eric is more than that. Maybe this is just personal but Tom never made me laugh. Eric has had me in stitches.
@@AKdaJuiceGuy While Tom Green stuff wasn't as good doesn't make him not a pioneer of the style like the first plane wasn't great
@@IWearShoes31 I never said he wasn't
I like how I've never heard of 80% of these people or shows.
Me too! And TBH it seems more enjoyable to deconstruct this stuff than to actually watch it. (I would be very surprised if that was a common view).
This video inspired me to watch I Think You Should Leave.
And it's actually a pretty short show, six episodes per season 14 to 17 minutes per episode. I'm glad I consumed it.
It gives me some stuff to think about for a long while to come.
That's one of the downsides of the death of monoculture due to the rise of the internet; so many of us miss popular media and it's honestly pretty alienating. There was a much bigger sense of community with others when everyone knew the stuff you were talking about because almost everyone watched that one show on that big network.
@@xenos_n. Yes, bring us back to the days where the only thing to watch was "The Flying Nun!"
@@Pacmanghost I wasn't alive back then
Monty Python is definitely an inspiration for this “New style of comedy”. It’s finding and exposing the absurd and ironic we find within ourselves and the society around us.
Wondershowzen and Look Around You both really resonate with this style of comedy.
Aunty Donna as well.
I don't really asociate this kind of humor to the internet, it's just how comedy has evolved, I actully relate ITYSL to Mr Show by Bob Odenkirk and David Cross, that show did not have a conection to the internet yet the type of comedy seems similar to me, and i love how it has evolved
Tom Green was doing what Andre and others was doing back in 99/2000..
who?
@@Bizarro69 someone you can look up on youtube(or google)..
@@Bizarro69 Freddy Got Fingered is underground classic
I wasn’t a big fan of Tom Green but you’re 100% correct. He was way ahead of the time.
I feel like you kinda missed Bo Burnhams Inside, which I think is a perfect example of how the internet changed comedy. The whole show is practically a love/hate letter to the internet and internet culture (among a lot of other themes of course)
Good catch. But I do think Bo used cinametic language and tricks to talk about the internet. Where these examples are more akin to how we communicate on the internet. Still would love to see more comparisons.
I love how you assume no one over 40 is watching this video & that this type of humor was invented on the internet. Rowan & Martin's Laff In, The Smothers Brothers, Monty Python & even the Muppet Show to a certain degree all existed in the mainstream prior to social media & cable channels. MTV & pay per view content seems like the most logical bridge to what is happening in media now. Subversion & comedy have been bedfellows for a long time.
the young always think their stuff is new
Tbh it felt as much like an advertisement for “I think you should leave” as it did an analysis
I Think You Should Leave is such a good show!
Next: How People Made The Internet Weird
Let’s not forget the funniest thing ever… turning yourself into a pickle
The "meme era" of the internet is relatively new, but anti comedy has been around since Andy Kaufman.
As a 26 y/o who has been a denizen of the internet most of his life, is it weird I have never heard of this "famous" hot dog sketch???
Not really. There is no such thing as mass culture anymore (Marvel movies notwithstanding). Everything is niche. So if something is "famous", that just means it is famous within a certain subset of people.
Same here. I guess its mostly a Twitter thing, because I don´t go there.
Me neither and I'm 27
No because likely this was meant to advertise for the show. I’ve never heard of it at all
Thanks for explaining why I don’t find things funny anymore. I don’t feel so bad I guess
I always thought the reason why people act weird online is the same psychological effect as road rage. Your not facing a human being, your facing an object.
summary: Art imitates life, and life is nucking futs.
…and imitates art.
i think of the current moment as dada 2.0
considering the circumstances it was created first doesnt give comfort but in a world you have to be mad as a hatter there is none anyway
lets dont take it to serious and laugh about it
DaDavinci 1.0
Words in right order your are not why the?
Isn't any Brechtian intent mostly sabotaged by the fact that we know from the start that these comedians are weird? To really alienate effectively, don't you need to be harder to pin down?
For some reason, as a better example, I'm thinking of what Robert Rauschenberg said about going to Roy Lichtenstein's first show of pop paintings: 'I didn't know if they were bad or good and I liked that.'
theory is hogwash anyway, ruins the enjoyment if you get too much in to the blah blah yah,?
@@Bizarro69 Nah! Or nah and yah. I like some theory a lot. I used to like Wisecrack videos better when they did the theory better. It has its place and can be fun and enlightening. Don't let the bad boring up in their heads theorists spoil the rest of it for you.
Aunty Donna getting no mention in this makes me sad. Everything’s a drum after all
Oh haven't you done well!
_Runs into bedroom and tears Wisecrack poster off of the wall._
Knock! knock!
Who's there?
No one cuz we destroyed the environment and we all all gonna die soon.
COMEDY!
@ 5:40- OMG that picture of Ted Cruz is HILARIOUS!
These are the exact reasons I've distanced myself almost entirely from social media. Once you take a step back, you really realize how stupid it is...even those I agree with.
You should do a whole episode on doomer despair
"All the while being bombarded with ads.."
*RUclips ad starts *
AND I DON'T WANT ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TABLES
This made me think about the dominant run Papa Franku, iDubbz and the boys had for a while. I think I'll go "analyze" their content now
It's weird to think that I lived the first 10 years of my life without internet yet my children will never experience a single day without it lol
As Larry the Cucumber said, “in the future humor will be randomly generated.”
Probably because in a world where supposedly we know so much, have access to so much and can create educated predictive models of so much… is it any wonder that so much of our humor now exist to fly in the face of all that
What a great channel this is. Kudos.
The globalisation of humour through the internet: a saga
Yes comedy has become very strange to me...
...thought it was my age.
RIP to Trevor Moore of Whitest Kids U Know
Though they were on TV their sketches made it to youtube at its beginning and were some of the earliest pieces of youtube memorabilia that goes uncherished
I still can't believe it. But those sketches are burned into my subconscious forever. Trevor playing the devil in the Everest sketch going "PEOPLE LIKE YOUUUUU" will never fail to make me cry laughing.
The comedy culture went from laughing at groups of people to laughing at individual in daily situations. Internet was the gateway to connecting with individuals across the globe.
I absolutely love the eric andre show but couldn't find the words why and i think this is a good explanation
I’ve literally never seen the hot dog guy, is that what old guys think kids are laughing at?
I have never felt so old! Except for SNL, I did not recognize a single show in this video. That’s it; grandpa is out of here! See you never, homeslice!
So glad you guys are covering "I think you should leave"
EVERY WISECRACK THAT HAS THIS HOST IS THE BEST!! Love all of this channel tho
Most new entertainment leaves me confused and detached. Glad I did not know what the first half of Gen Y was into in our collective 20s. Cannot say comedy is much a favorite of mine anymore.
Is it that the internet has made comedy weird? Or has the internet just expanded the potential for what can be done? Also, it shows that there is a kind of self-deprecation being displayed by the "left" that can be exploited.
Comedy has become lazy. It's not about content or thinking of witty comparisons, it's about new takes on played-out Old memes. Or people being as absurd as possible merely for the sake of being weird. I remember it started around the time of Ren & Stimpy when I was younger.
And I like some of the Absurd stuff. I know as we get older, we kind of scoff at new humor. But old humor is always funny. It Stands the test of time..
There was a period when we realized how absurd and funny some of the old shows were but now it is forced. Not natural
Thanks, I honestly didn't know why people were acting like that. Even made me nauseous at times guess I should smoke or something... you know for nausea...
I wonder why the automated subtitles aren't present on this video...
12:57 SPOT ON!!
Thank you wisecrack, for continuing to show me why I like things
All I know is that I have to bird up.
im surprised u didnt post the famous veggie tales clip. of randomly generated comedy... WEED EATER
Why are we crazy online? Could it be people see things they think they should have opinions on and others filling roles in the narrative around them and want to make an impact? I dunno
for this timely and engaging content, I rate this program a 14/12 raisins
Comedy was already weird, the commercialize comedy was censored for a wide audience.
Dying is easy, Comedy is hard
I've never heard of any of this...
Nice work comrade lovely video keep it up.
The internet is the internet. Vine has morphed into Tik Tok, Redditors and 4Chan have migrated to RUclips, Twitter, Howard Stearn, and Mancow.
College Humor, the Onion, and the Daily Show have turned into Nightline, 60 Minutes, NPR, C-SPAN, and public access TV.
Wisecrack turns into psycho historical pop culture critique.
I opened up an art history book detailing pop art from the past 100 years. It came across pretty much as chaotic and headache inducing as RUclips videos today. We're gearing back to the early days of zoetropes, vaudeville carnival acts, and View Masters, except now the View Masters are VR and AR, and the technology are more like contact lenses.
People are what they've always been. What's changed is the technology, our sophistication, and our commonly held notions of what's fair.
People are just shocked because now they're paying attention to what people are saying and demanding legal action. Which is messed up.
If you're going to create content, choose a lane and stick with it, damn.
Me, I went from not engaging at all to being super famous and influencing the fabric of society to being anonymous again. It's weird.
Now I have to fight to procure basic stuff like laws against vandalization, privacy, honoring contracts, proper food labeling, etc.
this vid is stretching a lot but I do like the references
Doesn't all this modern comedy just revolve around stupidity caused by cognitive dissonance?
I was waiting for Tim and Eric to pop up lmao.
Samsung notification sound is the peak of comedy
Honestly, this isn't all that different from the stuff you found on TV sketch shows in the UK in the '80s and '90s, such as The Fast Show.
Monty Python is definitely an inspiration for this “New style of comedy”. It’s finding and exposing the absurd and ironic we find within ourselves and the society around us.
The same doomerist vibe goes for Burnham in the new special. One of the definitive faces of early internet comedy. I agree with your conclusion (this comedy doesn't give you hope, it shows you reality) and that begs the question - should it actually give us something apart the cynicism? Well, I mean, if it is so, it can easily go the realm of self-assurence without anything to back it up, but if the contrary is true - then it can become just the same mind-numbing profitable show that tells us that we all are already dead
You make valid points. Recognizing the futility of life has been accepted for a while now. Hell, Monty Python made a whole movie on it. My personal issue with this is that there’s no point. It’s just,” obvious statement about life, now laugh.” I feel it needs some substance. Not the whole recycling bottles will fix climate change bull shit, but maybe some life is pointless might as well be kind to one another and enjoy the ride
We just all late to the party, the Japanese have been here for a while
I wonder if being the end of WW2 led to them recognizing the futility of life. And from that, we get the shonen anime someone solving all the problems with friends, and then shows like EVA, which is just depression on film
WAIT, I HAD NO IDEA WHY PATTIE HARRISON WAS BANNED! That’s funnier than I could have imagined
Love your videos
So you've told me why this comedy doesn't resonate with me. I only wish I could believe most people put this much thought into what they're watching. It's more likely people watch it because it "feels like" the other things they've been doing all day, without questioning any of it.
I've never heard or seen the hotdog guy before but I've seen the Eric Andre meme loads
It’s because people are t funny, so they’re random instead.
But there's got to be some kind of logic that exists underneath. Nobody thinks that just randomness for randomness's sake has any value.
Right?
Right?!?!
Somebody say something!!!!
@@malokingi23 POPCORN!
LOL
this video really didn’t actually say anything or come to any conclusion it seems. Just a jumble of thoughts and observations.
that's every video on here
ITS VERY INTERNET-LIKE DIDNT YOU SPOT THE MOTIF
Veggietales predicted this.
I mean, not really. Dadaism has been a thing for a while.
They HAVE to talk about Smosh in this
No they don't
@@kevinwillems8720 Sorta
I love you guys so much. Usually you are on point, but dude, you didn't point out that comedy reflects what is going on in the times it is made. The social, wait I had to smoke, the social myths of how we have to be and what we actually think are very different. I love the shows you pointed out, but why are they jarring and slightly annoying? It is to make a point that shit is messed up, that nothing is taken off the table. We are all a little weird, but watching an extremely weird thing it makes us feel more normal. Comedy is always a reflection of life, and the internet does that best, because it literally has everything. In my mind I wish more people were online, to learn and to laugh. The world isn't in our hands, we can't change that... But we can joke and poke holes in the way it works. Comedy is really the only free speech one has. You know, I'm just saying, but what do I know.
"Weird Twitter in the late 00s and early 10s"? No, it comes from 4chan from around 2005. I know this channel can't say anything so controversial but 4chan was pioneering long before Twitter. Similarly Albinoblacksheep and other flash sites are potentially even more responsible.
I wonder if you either don't remember this or whether it's because mentioning 4chan in a positive light wouldn't fit the message you're pushing?
I agree it’s almost like they gloss over the transition of that area from un mainstream to the norm today like drill comes from something awful forums. The internet humor of today it’s almost like a parody of the Internet humor of the previous decades in example with layers of irony and inside jokes, it’s almost like wise crack is out of touch with what “hip” because they use examples of absurd jokes like it’s fresh and new when I would say most mainstream media would consider it cringe worthy or “boomer” humor.
You have to wonder if they know what they’re talking about or if they just research it and take whatever google says as fact (despite google being about the same age as the early internet humor sites).
And how many writers come up with this script? Whether it’s one person or a group of randomly aged persons, is problematic.
This whole video is drawing connections where there is none. "People post comedy show clips from TV to the internet but sometimes TV shows use comedy clips from TV that were posted on the internet. TV is very 'internetty'!"
Uh ok
Yes this video was a reach. I’m glad I’m not the only one who was scratching their head at 50% of the video
Wish you would mention Stewart Lee in this / in the future.
It wouldn't be a Wisecrack video that talks about performance in any way without Berthold Brecht
Theatre nerd here, I got very excited once you started talking about Brecht because that is pretty spot on for our current memes and comedic culture. I say this as someone who for her senior theater final dressed up as the Statue of Liberty and monologues the final speech from The Great Dictator
Michael, I'm confused. You said this video is about Comedy but you talk about Saturday Night Live?
12:02 where's this clip from? :D
Evangelion 3.0+1.0 next please!
Yes, great idea. I always thought it was made by Hideaki Anno to show us what we think we wanted to see in Evangelion, only to find out we didn't know what we wanted, and partially due to "moe" culture, our expectations have been distorted while our misinterpretation of the original NGE series led us to want a series devoid of the meaning and depth that made the original so great.
On that thought, they should do a What Went Wrong? of all 4 movies.
“They don’t even know that I am trying to destabilize the system, and provoke revolution”
I think you mean why does comedy feel like adult swim
Also: why doesn’t adult swim feel like comedy
This show is awsome great for background or a quick laugh.
lol uncrackable encryptions, nice job saying that with a straight face
First time ever commenting on YT, but I've always described this as dadaist humour as the situation contains its own context but your understanding of the context affect your engagement with the text
I think the writers at Wisecrack might be ML and I really fw that
It’s a postmodern hall of mirrors. I don’t understand what’s going on anymore. Funny really.
Meanwhile I don't use twitter, my Facebook got hacked, never had vine or tik tok, this is all new to me
Some guy bemoaned on Twitter that modern post internet history will remember Chris Chan (and the likes of) rather than figures like Aristotle, Einstein or Oppenheimer. He posed that, by remembering and immortalising the worst society has to offer (an extremely online reactionary caricature of what a human ought to be), future generations would grow up trying to emulate these people instead of the people history used to remember.
History written by the winners is a very Similar thing.
13:10 I don't like being called out like that
I know is Joji now but we can't forget Filthy Frank. That guy raised the bar too
This video could not be more wrong when it starts to cover the origins of the online style of humor. Twitter and Tim and Eric had jack to do with any of it.
SomethingAwful, Fat Chicks In Party Hats, Seanbaby, I-Mockery, Spatula-City, the Internet Wrestling Community and usenet newsgroups pioneered the sarcastic / absurdist / offensive nature of internet humor. The hack that made this video is clueless, and apparently thinks that the web was created in 2005.
Conner is a genius and the best comedian going rn. Don’t @ me
Truth
who?????
Dude, your researchers need to watch more than the last 10 years of pop culture. Between Tom Green, Kids in the Hall, Sifl & Olly, Wonder Showzen... This is like watching somebody credit Denis Leary for the "angry smoking rant" with no awareness of who Bill Hicks was.
"when confronted with a destructive outcome that is clearly their doing, they will say, plain and simple, “I never did that,” and will to all appearances believe their own direct lie."
― Martha Stout, The Sociopath Next Door
20:48 what clip is this from??? That is funny and idk why