How to use the dorian mode to make chords and progressions

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  • @WriteASong
    @WriteASong  2 года назад +10

    Go Here For The 7 Modes 👉 ruclips.net/video/C93lMKsE1f8/видео.html

    • @abdsakowa
      @abdsakowa Год назад +1

      I am listening. Coz I like musics it will get to me soon

    • @dalepiwek
      @dalepiwek 10 месяцев назад

      When I was a spode I figured black magic was required to hear that 1 different note. Once I realized the modes as harmonic progression I also realized there's a reason that the C,G,A and D modes are so common and so important. Bach trips me out with his use of B natural in something like the D minor volin Giga. Yeah I know that's a bit heavy 😅😂

  • @carlop3019
    @carlop3019 2 года назад +40

    wow man.. in just 12 minutes I understood what I hadn't in nearly 12 years. My warmest congratulationsI :)

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for the comment, I'm so glad that the video has helped you after all these years!

    • @Skwid-Lives
      @Skwid-Lives 7 месяцев назад +1

      Yes I have to say these simplify things that so many others can’t seem to do. I finally understand the theory behind modes

    • @wilmtb5898
      @wilmtb5898 3 месяца назад

      Same!! This guy explain this concept in the perfect way!

  • @davefiano4172
    @davefiano4172 Год назад +5

    Theory, Application, Examples…Perfect!

  • @Guoleyao-music
    @Guoleyao-music 3 месяца назад +2

    freaking cool video! Specific and easy understanding

  • @oneworld9071
    @oneworld9071 Год назад +8

    With the first note I ever played on a guitar, and nearly all the notes that followed over 50 years, I have for decades been stylistically inspired by Carlos Santana, whose style is certainly immersed in the Dorian realm. I once asked a Berklee graduate about the phenomenon of "preference" for certain melodic styles. To my question "why is it I'm so comfortable in Dorian mode?", he replied "'Cuz you can't make any mistakes!!!!!". To this day some 20 years later I can't figure out whether that answer was condescending, or empathetic?
    (Edit: cont'd above, more on topic and less ramble :) )

    • @LohPro
      @LohPro Год назад

      Dorian & Lydian are sort of "twins" in this regard, as they have no "avoid" notes that conflict with the main chord tones, especially not against the 3rd. This is apparently why so many like to voice their tonic Major chords as "Lydian" voicings, so the #4/#11 is whole-step above the quality 3rd & many pieces like to end on m6 "dorian" voicings. All other modes of the Major scale have some type of "conflict" with the chord tones. All of that is for chordal voicings though. Melodically, there is much more freedom, as notes may be played quickly or in passing, so there perhaps are not "avoid" notes. Playing different notes on different beats, or in-between beats, will bring definition or context to them, against an underlying chord or drone.

  • @jackgriffith9229
    @jackgriffith9229 2 года назад +3

    Musicians!
    This post is excellent and outstanding and rather helpful to say the least.
    This post will definitely help to improve your musicianship. Enjoy!

  • @samichpower
    @samichpower 3 месяца назад +1

    Dude your videos are so good. I feel like my understanding of Dorian has just been revolutionized

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks, I'm glad they help you!

  • @guitarbluz62
    @guitarbluz62 2 года назад +4

    Thank you for this lesson! I love Dorian mode and now have a better understanding of the mode, instead of just kinda blindly noodling it over a progression. I now have some song writing ideas based on the progressions you shared. 😊

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  2 года назад

      Great to hear, thanks for the comment and good luck with your songwriting!

  • @amd5471
    @amd5471 Год назад +1

    Brilliant! Thank you!

  • @peeachediva
    @peeachediva 8 месяцев назад +1

    I liked the examples of progressions that you give. I also like the fact that you use the Roman numerals as well as the notations of the chords themselves. The Roman numerals being the larger part of the illustration really draws the attention to the quality of the chord as well as alerting the mind to setting up to be able to transpose the progressions. I love your videos!!

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the comment, I'm glad you like the videos!

  • @mostfactualartificial8228
    @mostfactualartificial8228 Год назад +4

    This channel is super important to my music making journey. Thank you for all of this in depth informative content❤

  • @kaipi00
    @kaipi00 Год назад +1

    this is the best structured explanation ever. good job

  • @mjaa1307
    @mjaa1307 4 месяца назад +1

    i love this video, already subscribed!

  • @PeranMe
    @PeranMe 2 года назад +4

    Thank you for showing me a new way of thinking about this! Very good job, thanks for sharing this! Keep being awesome!

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  2 года назад

      Thanks for the kind comment, I'm glad you found the video helpful! There are plenty more on the way!

  • @amd5471
    @amd5471 Год назад +1

    Thanks

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  Год назад

      You're welcome AMD, thanks for the support!

  • @Excellentness
    @Excellentness 2 года назад +1

    Absolutely thrilled I found this channel

  • @AlexandreSoma
    @AlexandreSoma 2 года назад +2

    You really made me understand this! Congrats!

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  2 года назад +1

      Thanks! I'm glad the video helped you.

  • @HardcoreOreider
    @HardcoreOreider Год назад +1

    Such a good and crystal clear Video! Now i am enlighted. Thank you

  • @phillsmusicalmadness
    @phillsmusicalmadness 9 месяцев назад +1

    Guitar teach here... great stuff guys! Thanks for your hard work

  • @janus_music
    @janus_music Год назад +1

    I really like how you explained the theory.Nice video mate 👍

  • @lefty6stringer903
    @lefty6stringer903 2 года назад +2

    Thank you! Great explanation.

  • @DeeKay68
    @DeeKay68 3 месяца назад +1

    Well explained!!!!! Unlike other sites.

  • @mikec6733
    @mikec6733 2 года назад +3

    I find that well placed diminished chords sound sweet, even though the chord itself is dissonant

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  2 года назад +1

      Yes I agree.

    • @rickf6375
      @rickf6375 2 года назад

      dissonance gives character

  • @peeachediva
    @peeachediva 11 месяцев назад +1

    LOOOOOOOOVE this instructor!!

  • @mooreoutdoor9841
    @mooreoutdoor9841 2 года назад +1

    Awesome!!! I needed something to break me away of the same progressions I had been using. Thanks for getting me out of the rut!

  • @user-jq3oo8pm6m
    @user-jq3oo8pm6m 7 месяцев назад +1

    really helpful. thank you a lot !

  • @user-ry6lg3zt1k
    @user-ry6lg3zt1k Год назад +1

    So interesting mode. The tonic chord is also minor but it's TEMPERATE. I love A Dorian scale which can make the progression Amadd9 - Emadd9 - Gmaj7 - Dadd11 for instance.

  • @javierdelarco5762
    @javierdelarco5762 2 года назад +1

    Nice and Clear, Thanks!!!

  • @elevan2760
    @elevan2760 2 года назад +1

    Great vid!! I look forward to when you get up to explaining counterpoint in the modes. That is something I don't quite understand.

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  2 года назад +1

      Thanks, I will add it to my to-do list!

  • @sloperdad4835
    @sloperdad4835 2 года назад +1

    Excellent tutorial.

  • @dizeezbiz4505
    @dizeezbiz4505 2 года назад +1

    Nice, clear exposition, nothing extra; thanks. Liked and subbed.

  • @chazrocket
    @chazrocket 2 года назад +1

    Love this example. Appreciate adding the cord progressions. Very cool video

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  2 года назад +1

      Thanks so much!

    • @chazrocket
      @chazrocket 2 года назад +1

      @@WriteASong do you have videos on each mode like you did with Dorian? Even though Dorian is what I’m drawn to, I’d still like videos just like this on the other modes as well. I also just found out about your channel so I will be digging

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  2 года назад +1

      I've just released one about Phrygian : ruclips.net/video/c3RjlkENz6M/видео.html. The other modes will be coming to the channel over the next few weeks.

  • @cmroosen
    @cmroosen Год назад +1

    Nice explanation and thanks for giving some progression examples. I love the song Wicked Game by Chris Isaac which also has a Dorian feel to it.

  • @geraldedwards5762
    @geraldedwards5762 2 года назад +5

    I think of it as Aeolian with raised 6... I try to see how each mode relates to the Major or minor - and what the differences are. I categorize accompaniment with respect to mathematical ratios in much the same way... main shades of color and then additive and subtractive variants, each with a slightly different characteristic and quality.

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  2 года назад

      Interesting, thanks for the comment.

    • @justinatest9456
      @justinatest9456 2 года назад +2

      This was the way I began to remember them as well. There are 6 modes (because Locrian isn't worth worrying about when you're starting out), and most of us all know 2 without even realizing it, Major (Ionian), and Minor (Aeolian). The remaining 4 are simply a one note variation of either Major or Minor:
      Mixolydian - Major with a b7
      Lydian - Major with a #4
      Dorian - Minor with a raised 6
      Phrygian - Minor with a b2
      If you're like me and found youurself jamming with some friends on some new chords in say, A Minor, a key you're very comfortable in, but every once in a while a note you play sounds way off, this is modes. Like me you might stop and retune your guitar even though it sounds fine, and make everyone else retune as well. And yet it still sounds bad? This is modes.
      The chords dictate the modes, not knowing the right mode you're in is not an option. You will sound like a fool.

    • @kodowdus
      @kodowdus 2 года назад

      George Russell's Lydian Chromatic Concept suggests that these "Church" modes (modes that can be constructed using only the white keys of a keyboard instrument) can be ordered in terms of "brightness" from Locrian to Lydian. (In fact, Miles Davis, an advocate of this system, once suggested that the piano should have a "middle F" rather than a "middle C".)

    • @geraldedwards5762
      @geraldedwards5762 2 года назад

      @@kodowdus They are considered the static chords... C to F - tonic to subdominant... and F to C - tonic to dominant. The magic of the Circle. One direction it is fifths the other fourths and it all depends on the observer...
      and how they perceive it. The basis for the 12 bar blues is just mainly a static loop like this with the defining dominant thrown in near the end.

    • @kodowdus
      @kodowdus 2 года назад

      @@geraldedwards5762 My impression is that the Lydian Chromatic Concept relates to the "Circle of Fifths" in the sense that the Lydian scale is what you get from progressively adding six notes to your tonic note by moving up a fifth (or down a fourth). The Lydian mode can thus be seen as a scale built on perfect fifths (hence the "brightness" character), and progressively altering that scale by flattening the fourth and every fourth note above that will take you through the seven "Church modes" in order of decreasing brightness until you get to the Locrian mode. (It also just occurred to me that the emphasis on the importance of cadences in the Western world might be why the Ionian ("major") scale and "middle C" have become the reference point in academic music theory rather than the Lydian scale and "middle F", since the Ionian mode is the only "Church mode" in which the V chord is a "dominant" V (i.e., a major chord with a flattened 7th).)

  • @bambees.k0wgirl
    @bambees.k0wgirl 2 года назад +2

    ahhh my favorite mode

  • @MrKurdas
    @MrKurdas Год назад +1

    Amazing videos. Some od them I must watch several times, because my brain doesn't work :D, but they are great.

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  Год назад +1

      Thanks for the kind words and repeated views! I'm glad the videos are helping you.

  • @JustFiddler
    @JustFiddler 2 года назад +1

    matur suksma untuk videonya

  • @umiller1972
    @umiller1972 Год назад +1

    Thanks!

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  Год назад

      Thanks Ulrich, really appreciate the support!

  • @Elvis-dw7ux
    @Elvis-dw7ux 2 года назад +1

    Zabardast.....cheers mate....from Canada!!!

  • @jasoncolap
    @jasoncolap Год назад +1

    Great

  • @isaacperry1180
    @isaacperry1180 2 года назад +2

    Nice💯

  • @MaTTheWish
    @MaTTheWish Год назад +1

    PRO Lesson!

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  Год назад

      Thanks Matt!

    • @MaTTheWish
      @MaTTheWish Год назад +1

      @@WriteASong Thank You!
      Really clear and concise lesson.
      Ive heard much about Dorian, but had trouble understanding commiting it to my memory.
      Until this lesson. .thx, Subscribed!

  • @Dreamdancer11
    @Dreamdancer11 2 года назад +1

    Exactly....treat everything intervallic-ly and you ll have no confusions about anything...chords,arpeggios,scales,modes....it ll be just a matter of using the right..intervalic recipe......

  • @VirtualModular
    @VirtualModular 2 года назад +4

    Nice, D Dorian is still one of my favourite keys for dad rock jams after several decades of failing to learn guitar properly !
    Maybe would have been nice to hear the scale being played as well as just the chords, so people whoe aren't familiar with it can get a feel for the sound or 'flavour' of Dorian compared with the natural minor. It's a good aporoach though.
    Next up, are you going to cover modes of the melodic or harmonic minor? 😉

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  2 года назад +1

      Thanks, yes other mode videos play the scale notes.
      I will get to melodic / harmonic minor modes eventually, I have a lot of videos to create!

    • @VirtualModular
      @VirtualModular 2 года назад +1

      @@WriteASong great! I'm the same, don't really have the time to be a youtuber to be honest. Watching other people's videos has really helped my understanding of music theory, so thanks to everyone who creates stuff like this.

  • @dalepiwek
    @dalepiwek 10 месяцев назад +1

    Bye bye love, back in black, maiden Twilight zone, Crue stick to your guns, Schenker and Uli solos. U can surely hear Dorian floating aroind

  • @oneworld9071
    @oneworld9071 Год назад +1

    When explaining modes to anyone, I suggest they keep in mind the term "mood"........ that each mode seems to convey a certain emotional state. Dorian is romantic, Phrygian mystical, Ionian uplifting, etc. As I follow this video, I'm thinking that the tonic and 5th together are pretty powerful, but the 3rd is perhaps the most powerful in terms of the "mood" of the song. From this I'm appreciating the importance of natural minor vs Dorian. When you introduced the powerful 6th, I'm hoping to hear more. When playing in Am, I'm curious as to why the 6th often turns out to be a semitone away...... sometime an F natural works, and other times only the F# will work. I'm trying to figure out how to know ahead of time which 6th will be the one I want/need.
    While sight reading is a great skill, analytical listening is at least as valuable. You're generously covering the idea, to my greatest thanks.

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  Год назад

      Thanks for the kind comment and interesting anecdote! I agree with you about thinking of modes in terms of mood or emotion. As for your F/ F dilemma, sometimes only your ears have the answer!

  • @kzeich
    @kzeich 2 года назад +2

    The algorithm just today suggested this

  • @johnniecoyle3482
    @johnniecoyle3482 2 года назад +2

    Ty

  • @MetaphysicalMusician
    @MetaphysicalMusician 2 года назад +1

    EXCELLENT

  • @Todzuum
    @Todzuum 11 месяцев назад +1

    The diminished chord is where it’s at

  • @kodowdus
    @kodowdus 2 года назад +1

    I finally understand the chord progression in the chorus of "For Your Love" (as recorded by the Yardbirds)! Now how could one use this approach to interpret the V major in Santana's otherwise Dorian vamp "Evil Ways"??

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  2 года назад +1

      Without knowing the song, a V major in an otherwise Dorian song could be considered a borrowed chord from Major/Ionian or Lydian.

    • @kodowdus
      @kodowdus 2 года назад

      @@WriteASong Thanks. P.S. The V chord in "Evil Ways" (or "Greensleeves", for that matter) is actually a *dominant* 7, so I gather Ionian would be the only possible "lender" among the "Church" modes...?

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  2 года назад +1

      Yes it would be Ionian then.

    • @kodowdus
      @kodowdus 2 года назад

      @@WriteASong Why not consider modes other than the "Church modes" (i.e., those that can be rendered on the white keys of a piano) as potential "lenders" of a dominant V in the Dorian mode (for example, the harmonic minor or melodic minor modes)? (Still thinking about the Dorian implementation of Greensleeves.)

  • @bluesight_
    @bluesight_ 4 месяца назад +1

    Is there any way to functionally use the [vi] chord diatonically within Dorian, without flattening that root?

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  4 месяца назад

      Not that I can think of. It pulls you so strongly to the VII chord that it disrupts the tonal centre.

  • @bobdelciello1451
    @bobdelciello1451 2 года назад +1

    I subscribed but really would like to see some jazz applications. Jazz is my genre.

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  2 года назад

      Thanks for subscribing! I don't have a background in jazz, but I will try my best to include some jazz applications in the future.

  • @samirrojas8583
    @samirrojas8583 2 года назад +2

    Great video!!! May I ask, what software are you using for the "chord progressions" part?? Looks pretty and intuitive to try out chord progessions

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  2 года назад +1

      Thanks! Yes it's called Hookpad, I did a video all about it here: ruclips.net/video/YwQxYsVpOq4/видео.html

    • @samirrojas8583
      @samirrojas8583 2 года назад +1

      @@WriteASong thank you, it looks really interesting. I've been learning programming and i actually want to program something like this, but more gided towards an interactive chords song book

  • @dannuttle9005
    @dannuttle9005 Год назад +1

    Why can't you brilliant creative content creators understand that I already have too many channels subscribed? Sigh. Welp...*clicking Subscribe*

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  Год назад

      Thanks Dan. Always room for one more!

  • @vladv5126
    @vladv5126 Месяц назад +1

    The diminished sound isn't very popular. - metal has entered the chat.

  • @hibbiea8841
    @hibbiea8841 2 года назад +1

    i-Vii-Iv-Iv reminds us of Ochman's River

  • @russianblackmetalist5802
    @russianblackmetalist5802 Год назад +1

    Hello ! Thanx for a useful video ) Can you tell, should i avoid the major V chord or its ok to use it like in minor scale (where V7 is borrowed from harmonic minor). I heard its better not to use V7 chord in modal harmony(or use rarely) but i dont know if I must always stick to that modal harmony when using modes (like dorian for example).

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  Год назад +1

      Thanks for the question.
      The short answer is you can use any chords you like!
      If you are sticking strictly to the mode then obviously you wouldn't use V7. But the same would be true in minor/aeolian.
      I would suggest trying the V7 in progressions that contain the ii and IV chords as these will help to keep the dorian sound and not draw the listener into minor / aeolian.
      Modal chord progressions are all about tonal centres, the chords you focus on most of all. Briefly moving away can sound interesting if you come back to the tonal centre of your chosen mode.
      I hope that helps you a little.

  • @hibbiea8841
    @hibbiea8841 2 года назад +1

    i-ii-III-IV is the Furious Angels song

  • @frederickthompson8686
    @frederickthompson8686 2 года назад +2

    I didn't think it would be possible to make chord theory this complicated. But you've succeeded! Ugh...

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  2 года назад

      Thanks for watching!

    • @lioneddy6702
      @lioneddy6702 2 года назад

      Same

    • @VirtualModular
      @VirtualModular 2 года назад +1

      I'm not sure you can make it any simpler to be quite honest! Just look at the notes of the scale and see which chords you get out of it. This is the best way to approach the modes, instead of seeing it as a major scale shifted round (which obviously it is, that's how it's derived), I think it makes more sense to look at how each mode differs from a regular minor or major scale, as that's what makes it distinct.

    • @lioneddy6702
      @lioneddy6702 2 года назад

      @@VirtualModular mode is not a scale . you can try playing D dorian notes on a C ionion mode , it won't make it a D dorian mode no matter what .

    • @lioneddy6702
      @lioneddy6702 2 года назад

      @@VirtualModular you can correct me if i am wrong and i will learn something.

  • @Popart-xh2fd
    @Popart-xh2fd 2 года назад

    But in 4:56 the bass is the one that represents the Chord Progression, the Guitar Lead is always repeating the same notes in a loop, right?

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  2 года назад

      In this example the bass is playing the root note of the chords, the guitar is playing a full arpeggio of the chords.

    • @Popart-xh2fd
      @Popart-xh2fd 2 года назад

      @@WriteASong I see, however, contrary to the bass, the guitar sounds always the same. Many songs that have Chord Progressions actually end up to have just one instrument doing the Progression. Am I wrong?

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  2 года назад

      It depends on the song, but yes sometimes this is the case.

  • @Koropokel
    @Koropokel Год назад

    not enough pull to determine the tonic

  • @ChasMusic
    @ChasMusic 2 года назад

    Thank you. This would have been very helpful had you also played the notes, not just named them.

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  2 года назад

      Thanks for the comment, in my other mode videos I play the notes so you can hear them.

  • @alwalw3692
    @alwalw3692 2 года назад

    the main chords of Ionian are I IV V
    the main chords of Aeolian are i iv v
    what are the main chords of the other five modes?

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  2 года назад

      What do you mean by main chords?

  • @stephenb4078
    @stephenb4078 2 года назад +2

    I just don’t understand this . Maybe I’m dyslexic in music .. is there such a thing.

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  2 года назад +1

      It's fine to not understand. Music is for everyone.

    • @ponponpatapon9670
      @ponponpatapon9670 2 года назад +2

      i'm officially diagnosed with dyscalculia, which bleeds into other aspects of life like reading maps and sheet music (that is, i can't). i still make music anyway and learn in my own way

    • @lioneddy6702
      @lioneddy6702 2 года назад

      You don't understand because he purposely made it complicated

    • @lioneddy6702
      @lioneddy6702 2 года назад

      Look at it this way
      C Major scale
      C D E F G A B C this is ionion mode the basic chords are
      C Dm Em F G Am B diminished or half diminished
      If you start from Dm its Dorian
      Every time you chose a different starting chord in that you will get a different mode
      How you Construct the chord is up to you , you can use any note that is not in the chord . Example C major chord is made up of CEG notes and now it is up to you to add or remove any note as you like it You could do C G B or CEGB or CGBD etc., all up to you . You can even use notes not in the scale but how you apply it is up to you.

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  2 года назад +1

      @@lioneddy6702 Thanks for watching. It's not purposely complicated, it is just an alternative approach to learning the modes to the one that you have described.

  • @JB19504
    @JB19504 2 года назад +1

    Why do you use such weird keys for your examples? It would be much easier to follow if you used say, D dorian which is in the key of C, which makes it a little easier to follow for amateur musicians.

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  2 года назад

      The video starts with building the chords of C Dorian, the examples then use these chords.

  • @kentinjivek
    @kentinjivek 2 года назад +2

    Excellent explanations thanks !

  • @mrCetus
    @mrCetus 2 года назад +1

    Nice, clear exposition, nothing extra; thanks. Liked and subbed.

  • @alandomagalski7274
    @alandomagalski7274 2 года назад +1

    Thanks!

    • @WriteASong
      @WriteASong  2 года назад

      Thank you Alan! I really appreciate the support!