Wizard101: SHADOW NERF DISCUSSION - Which Schools Got Hit Hardest?

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  • @BlazeLifehammer
    @BlazeLifehammer  4 года назад +220

    So I got confused on the Lulu damage number, it's not 1100, it's 830 on Live right now. Still a big nerf for Death with Lulu going to 595, but not as bad as Myth got it. Crazy that when the orignal test realm for these spells came out Lulu was 1100 and Bugs was 1220 LOL. Nerfing it down to what they are in test just feels bad.

    • @clintminor5320
      @clintminor5320 4 года назад +7

      Nate, I feel like KI just really wants to stop updating this game and the loyal player base just keeps spending just enough to keep it afloat. They're trying to put the final stake into the heart of the player base.

    • @heathhensley6967
      @heathhensley6967 4 года назад +2

      Fire is officially the best hitting school.

    • @uiucchemistry2664
      @uiucchemistry2664 4 года назад +2

      Thanks for fighting for us nerfed schools! I propose that gaze of fate should be nerfed to 400 per head or 800 in the balance head & 25% bubble like before, Mystic Colossus should be remove 3 wards first then do 600 damage, and Khrulu should be 700 drain.

    • @isaiahadedeji6779
      @isaiahadedeji6779 4 года назад +1

      Would you mind putting your pet in the kiosk for us storm wizards?

    • @BLAH4460
      @BLAH4460 4 года назад +1

      3:00 You can't nerf everything. If you nerf everything then in the end you never accomplished anything.

  • @n8tur393
    @n8tur393 4 года назад +460

    These nerfs need to be less extreme and pvp only, this almost entirely ruins pve for some schools of players

    • @suzie8043
      @suzie8043 4 года назад +4

      ^^

    • @masterkratos0929
      @masterkratos0929 4 года назад +28

      I personally feel that the original version of the spells with more damage should be kept for pve and have the spell nerfed with less damage for pvp instead of nerfing it completely for both of the battle types. this is gonna make questing on my myth harder for sure with the reduced damage.

    • @imtony_t5054
      @imtony_t5054 4 года назад +3

      lulu got disrespected

    • @Thefrostedslime
      @Thefrostedslime 4 года назад +11

      Death benefits allot from LuLu's high drain health. Now Scarecrow is comparable to it? A spell we get at level 100?

    • @RikuYT
      @RikuYT 4 года назад

      Why don't they just do this for pvp only and not pve once I saw nerf on bugs I was like wtf

  • @brandonmoss8286
    @brandonmoss8286 4 года назад +212

    Tara pointed this out on one of her streams last test realm, and basically, what I got from it, is that I'm tired of KI "fixing" things. They "fixed" pet hatching to make it more expensive, they "fixed" the deckathalon to make it harder to do, they nearly "fixed" sun-school TCs by eliminating any method of getting them, and now they're "fixing" shadow spells by reducing the damage to the point that spells you get at level 68 are better than those you get at 100 (that's specifically for storm, not even taking into account myth, death, and balance). I'm not against fixing the game completely (KI's critical fix in Polaris is an example after they fixed enemy block), but recently KI's "fixes" have become something to fear more than something to look forward to.

    • @XeroPaiNN
      @XeroPaiNN 4 года назад +4

      Basically fixing mistakes that should not have even been in test realms,

    • @Cpt.Masami
      @Cpt.Masami 4 года назад +8

      These fixes are why people have stopped playing wiz overtime. Especially the critical fix which was uncalled for and sparked a mini riot in the Commons..... Idk about y'all but I knew after Polaris the game was only gonna get worse up this point. My problem is I was actually right........
      Edit: the only reason a lot of people came back now is because of covid 19. This game should of died by now tbh not Corona saved it lmao

    • @chikechovis2499
      @chikechovis2499 4 года назад

      Fire Assassin507 people were playing the game over 3 months ago before corona dude

  • @jonnyupchurch7283
    @jonnyupchurch7283 4 года назад +285

    Kings isle just killed this game. Been playing for a decade and as a death main this nerf is just insulting. Especially if they don’t nerf the health and resist of enemies death balance and myth are now just trash tier classes and I might be forced to delete a character that’s been there since 2010

    • @mads2801
      @mads2801 4 года назад +30

      i feel this ive been playing since 2011 and can’t believe the way they have gone with this game, it makes me sad cus i really do love the game.

    • @Me-dj6gr
      @Me-dj6gr 4 года назад +5

      Oh wow , so just because they tried to experiment in test realm they have completely killed the game with this? Do you know what test realm is even about? No one said that these changes will be the permanent so don't act like they are.

    • @SunderingLoki
      @SunderingLoki 4 года назад

      I don’t get these people. First they cry about shadow pips, and how they ruined the game. Once they finally get nerfed these people are crying they got over nerfed.

    • @Reillywilliams512
      @Reillywilliams512 4 года назад +43

      Sundering Loki nerfs are necessary to the game sometimes, but people weren’t asking to nerf schools and spells into oblivion. They simply wanted more balance, specifically for pvp. These changes impact PVE as well, which nobody was asking for.

    • @thiccynicky8657
      @thiccynicky8657 4 года назад +15

      Sundering Loki some of the spells are straight up unusable now

  • @sanditos6757
    @sanditos6757 4 года назад +314

    The spell nerfs is a lazy way for them to make room for the next spells. It’s whatever, but I guess this is the capacity of brainpower they can put into pve content.

    • @15float
      @15float 4 года назад +13

      Dumb excuse to nerf spells im a max fire and member finishing soon and bosses are already hard why nerf spells

    • @talonstormwalker4741
      @talonstormwalker4741 4 года назад +1

      Agreed

    • @ahaaha1875
      @ahaaha1875 4 года назад +2

      Dude its KI they want you to buy packs

    • @brettjarboe7237
      @brettjarboe7237 4 года назад

      @@MightyDantheman I think they will put the good spells in packs...

    • @chikechovis2499
      @chikechovis2499 4 года назад

      MightyDantheman MC just don’t play myth

  • @khrysalineart
    @khrysalineart 4 года назад +187

    Why do I feel like KI's gonna play dirty again and introduce spellements for these shadow spells to increase their damage like before? 'pay to win'. Not gonna be surprised if this happens.

    • @daishaunholmes2298
      @daishaunholmes2298 4 года назад +7

      I was just saying the same thing yesterday video in the chat section they have no morals

    • @fredthetank8386
      @fredthetank8386 4 года назад +16

      They nerf out spells we have had for 5 years then make us pay to get them back

    • @enormousiserratic8276
      @enormousiserratic8276 4 года назад +3

      Isn’t the strongest spell you can use spellements for lightning bats? They have a long way to go if they continue the rate of going up one rank

    • @khrysalineart
      @khrysalineart 4 года назад +3

      @@enormousiserratic8276 Idk, they have introduced new 4 and 5 pip spells in test realm..which apparently, can only be obtained with spellements. Who knows, at this point, can't really trust KI😂. They are capable of doing anything.

    • @blueishh
      @blueishh 4 года назад +2

      don't give them ideas omg

  • @willphilipps3620
    @willphilipps3620 4 года назад +141

    This just made myth wizards go from endangered to extinct

    • @koalamanda8299
      @koalamanda8299 4 года назад +21

      I’m levelling a Myth to max purely for the bragging rights but what even is the point now

    • @pyrusmasterdan1
      @pyrusmasterdan1 4 года назад +2

      😂

    • @tarani5aviel
      @tarani5aviel 4 года назад +9

      who even *asked* for a myth nerf?!?!?! Lmaooo

    • @drxppyice8276
      @drxppyice8276 4 года назад +4

      Well u guys did get a aoe that does more damage than storm lord

    • @minecraftsteve6997
      @minecraftsteve6997 3 года назад +3

      @@drxppyice8276 they made myth broken also considering EVERY DAMN SPELL IS A STUN

  • @RevPVP
    @RevPVP 4 года назад +99

    Never seen a company as out-of-touch with their dedicated playerbase as Kingsisle. This is sad.

    • @bubblez6539
      @bubblez6539 4 года назад +4

      @@j.m.browning8645 yes it is true that life isn't the best for pvp, however you COULD have a lot more health than a storm, on top of being able to use a big heal almost every round, if you're on a team, until you're dead that team is almost undefeatable. The point of life isn't to 1v1 pvp, it's to support and heal.

    • @janethebluemouse
      @janethebluemouse 4 года назад +3

      EA comes close

    • @bubblez6539
      @bubblez6539 4 года назад +3

      penguins as does epic games

    • @abro2072
      @abro2072 4 года назад +1

      boy lemme tell you about bungie and how they hadnling destiny rn, poorly

  • @TheGodkitty
    @TheGodkitty 4 года назад +189

    Nobody:
    Seriously nobody:
    Kingsisle: Let's kill myths attack lifeline

    • @Galaxy-ug5ik
      @Galaxy-ug5ik 4 года назад +11

      Empyria part 2 LOOMING over the horizon as hardest world
      **Kingsisle** IM GONNA RUIN STORM, MYTH, BALANCE AND DEATHS WHOLE CAREERS

    • @Buhrserk
      @Buhrserk 4 года назад +1

      @@Galaxy-ug5ik To be fair, it's not like nerfing Gaze made balance any worse a school currently.

    • @Poop-dg4bj
      @Poop-dg4bj 4 года назад

      @@Buhrserk facts

    • @a_aw1070
      @a_aw1070 4 года назад

      Misha lmao people don’t realise that nested fury has become so op

    • @chickentikka4383
      @chickentikka4383 4 года назад

      It’s true for PvE, but man, Gaze was soo good for PvP, so it’s almost like a punch to the gut seeing that spell getting cut by over a half

  • @claytonsloan10
    @claytonsloan10 4 года назад +200

    Bruuuh glowbugs nerf making storm lord look pretty clean 😂

  • @momosthederp8229
    @momosthederp8229 4 года назад +207

    I looked up the notes and they nerfed hungry caterpillar too. I understand life isnt known for dealing damage, but life needs what little damage it could get

    • @mihawk702
      @mihawk702 4 года назад +34

      And remember this, they made a Aoe 4 pips life spell behind a paywall....

    • @Aaron-uj7lp
      @Aaron-uj7lp 4 года назад +13

      just started a life-- catch me deleting every wizard now

    • @koalamanda8299
      @koalamanda8299 4 года назад +14

      Wow, so first they cheated us out of a shadow AOE with Wings of Fate and now they’re nerfing the one attack spell that lets us strike fear into others

    • @BeWaReJay
      @BeWaReJay 4 года назад

      Arctico I had a feeling i should’ve picked fire over death just in case something like this happened 🤦‍♂️

  • @sebastiangutierrez7567
    @sebastiangutierrez7567 4 года назад +189

    When Balance is unbalanced 😭😭

    • @XentriaNova
      @XentriaNova 4 года назад +14

      Balance got F'ed hard

    • @raptora4325
      @raptora4325 4 года назад +7

      it really did like damn i already struggled this age since the mana nerf and dispel nerf now 5th age is gonna be hell

    • @Shaggy87781
      @Shaggy87781 4 года назад

      @@raptora4325 compare savage paw to gaze, its nearly directly better lmao

    • @TheKingOfTrolling
      @TheKingOfTrolling 4 года назад

      Lmao, Hydra is better than our level 100 shadow spell. Idk what's wrong with the devs, I think Ratbeard is a crackhead.

    • @Shaggy87781
      @Shaggy87781 4 года назад

      @@TheKingOfTrolling go back to judgement tbh

  • @jessierose5319
    @jessierose5319 4 года назад +249

    I don’t even do pvp, and this is going to suck questing on my other wizards

    • @glxgalaxymystxrious6231
      @glxgalaxymystxrious6231 4 года назад

      Use your main wiz then?

    • @fisher2536
      @fisher2536 4 года назад +16

      @@glxgalaxymystxrious6231 main is maxed?

    • @zackisherep9246
      @zackisherep9246 4 года назад +23

      @@glxgalaxymystxrious6231 LMAO THAT DOESNT CHANGE THE SPELLS BEING USED YOU SILLY GOOSE

    • @exalteduchiha1563
      @exalteduchiha1563 4 года назад

      GLXGalaxy Mystxrious you silly mug

    • @JuuliusSeizure
      @JuuliusSeizure 4 года назад +7

      @@glxgalaxymystxrious6231 Yeah this is big brain time.

  • @bakedzac3630
    @bakedzac3630 4 года назад +47

    I’m new to this game, but I’m very experienced in MMORPGs. This is the craziest balance update I’ve ever seen in any game. Usually you see like 5, 10, 15, 20% nerfs/buffs, but to Nerf a class over half of its damage like what?
    Why not slowly nerf things til they feel right? this seem like an inexperience balance team.

    • @camdenwyeth316
      @camdenwyeth316 4 года назад +21

      Ki has no idea what they're doing lmao

    • @basedaudio1
      @basedaudio1 4 года назад +5

      Back to final fantasy lol

  • @unknown-pr1of
    @unknown-pr1of 4 года назад +590

    Like why not make the nerf pvp only?

    • @jaesen737
      @jaesen737 4 года назад +94

      Exactly! I would give SO much appreciation to KI if they listened to us regarding the PvP / PvE balancing split. This nerf is almost like giving us something great for 4 years, then snatching it away from us by nuking it all. Disappointing to say the least, I hope KI reconsiders their decision.

    • @tRiXMaddy
      @tRiXMaddy 4 года назад +29

      exactly, this should not be pve at all

    • @taylorfrangella
      @taylorfrangella 4 года назад +37

      Like seriously. This affects all my max wizards. I probably will never use gaze anymore of that goes to live. Nested fury does more damage than gaze now, and it hits all. So why not just fury? Or ra even. Seems strange. But my poor death aoe hit is massacred. I would only use deer Knight now. It’s not like the healing is super overpowered for PVE anymore since there are a billion wisps everywhere. And then mystic colossus is just trash now. Barely does more than EARTHQUAKE. I already do no damage to all enemies. If they were worried about myth damage, nerf my single hits. Mystic colossus has to be a straight pvp nerf cause otherwise it makes absolutely no sense. Just make all of this pvp only nerfs and get on with your day. If you think the spells need nerfs, nerf damage by like 25% for each of the spells or something. I can only assume the spells get buffed before going live cause it seems insane. Especially if you have a consistent amount of gaining shads now. It’s not my fault KI’s rng on shadow pips was broken before.

    • @SageSates
      @SageSates 4 года назад +31

      That would be too straightforward.
      KI wants to BS the playerbase first with outrageous damage nerfs then slighty increase them later to make it look justifiable from the original.

    • @VisualRift
      @VisualRift 4 года назад +11

      Sage exactly that’s what I keep telling people and that’s what a lot of developers do I noticed in MMO’s that I’ve played

  • @PSYXHOLOGIIXALL
    @PSYXHOLOGIIXALL 4 года назад +37

    Why would they nerf storm like that?
    Storm is already a hard school to play in PvP and it relies on raw power as it's only attribute.
    Lulu is basically scarecrow but thiccer now and why did they massacre my boy myth like that?
    Kingsisle is so brain dead and their decision making has been launched into a black hole because it's nonexistent at this point.
    Such a disappointment.

  • @iampotatogaming1686
    @iampotatogaming1686 4 года назад +37

    I've been playing Wizard101 for 11 years. I started playing in 2009 as a Myth character and I still have that account. I want to come back to the game because now there is so much to do, yet with the Colossus nerf there really is no point for me unless I start with a completely new character which would set back 9 years of gameplay. Wizard101 is and will always be my first real video game that I got into because my grandfather actually signed me up for it, and it will hold a special place in my memories for that, but I'm seriously considering just moving on completely as of now.
    I seriously hope that they don't go through with the nerf for the sake of so many players and the work that they put into this game.

    • @camdenwyeth316
      @camdenwyeth316 4 года назад +4

      100% if anything they need to buff some of the spells they actually nerfed. Gaze, mystic and Lulu really weren't that good before anyway.

    • @Rcook422
      @Rcook422 4 года назад

      I completely agree, yet it doesn’t take that long to progress in this game u til you hit safaria. I’ve been playing a new character for the last 3 weeks and am already lvl 70 lol. Only play a few hours a day too.

    • @baronvonjo1929
      @baronvonjo1929 4 года назад

      I just started playing in January after stopping like 3 years ago. I created a myth and was determined to finally get to the max lvl since I can afford membership now. I had such a great time and made so many friends. But now I'm 130 and struggling with Emperya. I have really slowed down and barely been playing for the past few weeks. But after this. I think I might just take another long break. This is absolutely crippling for me. Mystic was one of my favorite spells. I cant believe they did this. It has literally ruined combat for me which is such a huge aspect of the game

  • @flapawangatang6209
    @flapawangatang6209 4 года назад +36

    There's no way they planned anything going into these changes. I'm more than convinced that they just plopped random numbers on the table, implemented them, then called it a day.

  • @thenothingkid2694
    @thenothingkid2694 4 года назад +173

    Not death please Lord I can’t deal with a “slightly” better version of scarecrow!

    • @yellowflash2801
      @yellowflash2801 4 года назад +1

      Facts

    • @KeyLime231
      @KeyLime231 4 года назад +38

      Lulu is the only reason I was able to get through empyrea

    • @davidvillegas6836
      @davidvillegas6836 4 года назад +2

      I always wonted to be a death but idk if i wont to anymore 😔

    • @shawnc292
      @shawnc292 4 года назад

      It is less pips... its significantly better.

    • @quixtlies653
      @quixtlies653 4 года назад +7

      shawnc292 s h a d o w p i p

  • @clairekanyzova131
    @clairekanyzova131 4 года назад +168

    Gosh.. Im so angry after watching this video. This updates sucks for real. They just destroyed shadow spells, which was most helpfull in PVE.. After this im ready to unistall this game and cancel my membership. :(

    • @necoharvey9736
      @necoharvey9736 4 года назад +3

      Your gonna play still lol

    • @richardm8155
      @richardm8155 4 года назад +25

      Plz do. We need to make a statement to them that this is *not* what we want.

    • @Tregingtons
      @Tregingtons 4 года назад +21

      ikr, if they dont fix this the game is pretty much ruined, at least for the old players, new players aint gonna know what the hell is going on

    • @stanleysallee1757
      @stanleysallee1757 4 года назад +4

      I am with you there.

    • @2stepYo
      @2stepYo 4 года назад +3

      Facts

  • @MasterAndrew
    @MasterAndrew 4 года назад +45

    I understand that they want to nerf the spells and i see other people saying that they should also nerf the bosses/mobs in higher lvl worlds but to me, if we are in higher lvl worlds we should be facing higher lvl mobs/bosses. I would personally just nerf the spells for pvp.

  • @olivercoomara7026
    @olivercoomara7026 4 года назад +42

    Imagine being a myth, you quest all the way through worlds like avalon, zafaria and azteca with only humongofrog. Then you finally reach level 100 and get your shadow spell, mystic colossus. Myth's saving grace. I'll now be able to do damage, you say to yourself. Then you hear that there's a new test realm. You jump on to see what's changed, you hop onto your now, level 100 myth wizard, you open your spellbook and you see your mystic colossus. The card reads 450 damage. You think it must be a mistake. You then begin to realise, that wizard101 only has 6 schools now.

  • @heylol9961
    @heylol9961 4 года назад +39

    Don’t forget how ice still has an aoe that does more damage than bugs at max pips and it’s a tank school

    • @koalamanda8299
      @koalamanda8299 4 года назад +3

      Always wondered about Barrage loool

    • @taipo4581
      @taipo4581 4 года назад

      Bruh no ones using barrage in pvp

    • @WinterSupernova39
      @WinterSupernova39 4 года назад

      Brah weaver shield should have been 60
      Or 65 if they wanted to nerf

    • @hrt9996
      @hrt9996 4 года назад

      I don't really see it used. Ice need the damage that stays the same. But they didn't need nerf storm for pve

  • @angelangle9825
    @angelangle9825 4 года назад +434

    On so many levels, fire has become better than storm

    • @moonlightchina9863
      @moonlightchina9863 4 года назад +81

      Yeah it’s a growing trend! Fire has more damage, the same crit, and now a better shad AOE spell

    • @b_f_d_d
      @b_f_d_d 4 года назад +95

      *It's a great day to be a Fire*
      Especially maxed.

    • @abdulbasitmalik7775
      @abdulbasitmalik7775 4 года назад +1

      Moonlight China Meh higher damage but not the same crit

    • @moonlightchina9863
      @moonlightchina9863 4 года назад +24

      Abdulbasit Malik No at max level fire can get 176 damage with 100% crit and storm can only get 175 damage with the same crit

    • @aleksandrafurczon6717
      @aleksandrafurczon6717 4 года назад +35

      Well as a fire who stayed with the game for a while I’m happy we at least aren’t shitty anymore. I think they nerfed it way too much though, a little bit would be fine

  • @brycekrispies240
    @brycekrispies240 4 года назад +28

    That moment when you realize that your three main characters are Balance, Myth, and Death... in that order

  • @yagibug
    @yagibug 4 года назад +96

    Why'd they do this to my myth😭😭 omg..... 450 from 1k??? Wtf man🙍🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️ I'm so serious how do I get my money back im so over this game rn

    • @yagibug
      @yagibug 4 года назад +2

      @Gzoo Bel I'm gonna wait and if this goes through I'm gonna look into this

    • @richardm8155
      @richardm8155 4 года назад +24

      @Gzoo Bel Like why are they doing this 6 YEARS after the Darkmoor spells came out? I could get a quick rebalance after they first came out, but at this point, just let it be. They're talking about preserving this game's future, but there doesn't seem to be much of a future left.

    • @yagibug
      @yagibug 4 года назад +9

      @@richardm8155 if they keep going through with updates their players clearly don't want, i HOPE this game won't have a future, and i hope everyone files for a lawsuit so they can go bankrupt.

    • @v1s0na1ry7
      @v1s0na1ry7 4 года назад

      honestly i like the nerf to mystic because yeah it does less damage but it also removes a shield before hitting.

    • @richardm8155
      @richardm8155 4 года назад +9

      @@yagibug Yes plz. I really want Wiz to get passed on to another company or something though. Maybe Wizard 102 lol? The game has so much potential but their company is *EA* level bad.

  • @mustache-kun4541
    @mustache-kun4541 4 года назад +80

    KI be like: oh let's nerf this!!
    Wiz players: what is wrong with you!?
    KI: oh never mind let's just adjust this in the next patch.
    Srsly!? Why!?

    • @tenzinsmith
      @tenzinsmith 4 года назад

      King Arthur I can only hope they make them strong again.

  • @hellscream4354
    @hellscream4354 4 года назад +49

    Why be any other school after this "update" when you can be fire and literally be the best at both pve and pvp lmao

    • @basicpenguin3844
      @basicpenguin3844 4 года назад +1

      Its just sad

    • @chikechovis2499
      @chikechovis2499 4 года назад

      It was the best before nothing changed, people like to think Storm was the hardest hitter but on a team fire does way more damage, the spell from dalias smoldering hairdo lets scald hit for 1600 base damage (with enchant) and heck hound hits for a whopping 3640 base damage with NO enchant it’s nuts how much damage they can put out.

    • @BeWaReJay
      @BeWaReJay 4 года назад +1

      Chike Chovis not really but good thought

    • @timhuang935
      @timhuang935 4 года назад

      Chike Chovis not to mention they have more base health compared to storm

  • @jjroadhog
    @jjroadhog 4 года назад +14

    when a level 100 myth spell deals the same damage as a level 48 death spell you know somethings wrong

  • @daltthepel9729
    @daltthepel9729 4 года назад +39

    I’ve been grinding my myth I’m so close to Colossus. My heart is broken now. We already have to cast frog for 80 levels give us ONE good aoe PLEASE

    • @shadowgaze
      @shadowgaze 4 года назад +5

      The least they couldve done is make the spell animation shorter if they’re gonna nerf it so badly. Myth doesnt have a single aoe over 500 damage.

    • @dark5857
      @dark5857 4 года назад +1

      Scrypts yep i was thinking of making a myth but now never

    • @sadspacememe
      @sadspacememe 4 года назад +4

      I suggest Myth wizards who want a hard hitting aoe get a Wandering Eye pet. It gives you a Lord Humongofrog aoe dealing 870-930dmg + 1 round stun.

    • @mikeman56789
      @mikeman56789 4 года назад +2

      @@sadspacememe it would be very sad we have to resort to a pet spell to do our best aoe damage when other schools all have a learned spell that does more than 500 damage

  • @howtotutorials3283
    @howtotutorials3283 4 года назад +88

    PVP has ruined PVE

    • @ioj8426
      @ioj8426 4 года назад +18

      KI* has ruined pvp and pve neither wanted nerfs like this

    • @daishaunholmes2298
      @daishaunholmes2298 4 года назад +21

      Nah pvp still getting blame they wine to much

  • @GabeJH
    @GabeJH 4 года назад +13

    I'm so glad I stopped playing around six months ago. before the pet update and now this insult. I'm a myth main as well, if I hadn't left then I certainly would have now. without mythic colossus Myth is entirely useless past lvl 100.

  • @AverageUser69
    @AverageUser69 4 года назад +15

    It's been 6 years since Khrysalis. Only now they decide to nerf the shadow spells in the worst way possible. Thanks KI. Just what we needed

  • @MGhammer123
    @MGhammer123 4 года назад +42

    Wake me up when this nonsense is over. My storm, fire and death are just gonna stay inside the arcanum classrooms 😂😂😂
    DO NOT GO OUTSIDE WITH THESE SPELLS

    • @zilasgregersen2956
      @zilasgregersen2956 4 года назад +2

      MGhammer123 my thoughts exactly. This just ought to be some sorta bad dream...

    • @basedaudio1
      @basedaudio1 4 года назад

      Remove them from the deck and just forget em.

  • @hirahiro2331
    @hirahiro2331 4 года назад +11

    "Storm wizards are the strongest"
    *cue Pillar Men theme as Fire wizards walk in*

  • @wondarx2685
    @wondarx2685 4 года назад +57

    Look guys the pay2win spell meta started

  • @hjjofficial
    @hjjofficial 4 года назад +7

    I'm a myth wizard that farmed for dragoon gear. I feel like I'm gonna be even more useless now. No one wants a myth. As soon as I join a team-up, the person disbands it. No one wants myth currently, why would they want myth in the future with the weaker colossus?

  • @deaththeclover
    @deaththeclover 4 года назад +11

    As a max Myth wizard with all the best gear, who has a high level Balance and Death Wizard, I really hope KI sees this video. PvP holds a small portion of the entire Wizard101 community. Most of the community is made up of players who strictly stick to PvE.
    Most of my friends list is composed of PvE players. I have 6 max/near max wizards that all have 7 pages full of friends, and I can only make out a handful of them that are PvP players. We need a really good change to these spells, or else this might be the deciding factor for most players in Wiz.
    Either these spells remain the way they are, and we get new spells at level 135-140 that will replace them. That, or these spells get buffed up by 200-250 damage while still keeping any changed secondary effects. Bugs should get buffed up in damage from 730 and should keep the removal of 1 blade or maybe remove 2. Mystic should get buffed to at least 550/600 damage and still remove 1, 2, or maybe even 3 shields first before the hit.
    Call if Khrulu damage should increase. Perhaps somewhere around 650-700. And Balance with Gaze of Fate’s damage should honestly remain the way it was or nerf it down to 375 or 400 damage on both hits.

  • @ThaPerkyMan
    @ThaPerkyMan 4 года назад +16

    What people aren't understanding is, ice and life are STILL doing more damage (in terms of shadow spells abom weaver and caterpillar) than death myth and balance. THAT is an insult

    • @koalamanda8299
      @koalamanda8299 4 года назад +6

      I don’t mind Caterpillar so much cause it’s really our only amazing hit spell but we shouldn’t do more than the schools designed to actually do damage

    • @WinterSupernova39
      @WinterSupernova39 4 года назад

      I am not angry about the damage I am angry with the nerf shield they nerfed it heavy if it should be nerf for pvp sure but it was nerfed for pve which is stupid

  • @angelicawiz6656
    @angelicawiz6656 4 года назад +37

    Bro if tempest and storm lord go... say bye bye to storm as the questing/hitting school

    • @linglingming534
      @linglingming534 4 года назад +4

      facts.

    • @rileyf7789
      @rileyf7789 4 года назад +5

      Storm is my main. This update really pisses me off

    • @camdenwyeth316
      @camdenwyeth316 4 года назад +4

      @@rileyf7789 This update pisses everyone off

    • @troelembiid6970
      @troelembiid6970 4 года назад

      Riley F It’s sad... my main is Death. I was going to play after not hopping on for a year. Guess not.

    • @basicpenguin3844
      @basicpenguin3844 4 года назад

      @@rileyf7789 same here. Now fire is the best school at both pvp and pve.

  • @newernewestnew
    @newernewestnew 4 года назад +51

    the game is hard enough with the normal spells, imagine now 😩

    • @madyellingman7292
      @madyellingman7292 4 года назад +1

      Huh? This game is hard? LMAO

    • @incomments2864
      @incomments2864 4 года назад +2

      Either you have bad gear or you don’t know how to play lol game is not hard at all.

    • @theinternationallanguagees9213
      @theinternationallanguagees9213 4 года назад +14

      Don’t know what level you guys are at but it can indeed be difficult especially after the first arc/cl/zf

    • @balkancherry6690
      @balkancherry6690 4 года назад +1

      @@theinternationallanguagees9213 I'm am doing Polaris right now and it's definitely a challenge. I don't know how it will work out with the changes. Probably for the worst.

    • @theinternationallanguagees9213
      @theinternationallanguagees9213 4 года назад +1

      Balkan Cherry although the changes may pull through to the live realm , i dont think they will last. People are PISSED OFF at the changes and I’ve already heard of people canceling their memberships. Losing players means kingsisle loses money and they seem to like money quite a bit.

  • @newernewestnew
    @newernewestnew 4 года назад +34

    kingsisle better watch this video and change it back lol

  • @VariStudiosTv
    @VariStudiosTv 4 года назад +48

    Cant belive they destroyed glowbugs like seriously KI is getting to me

    • @hasanygeorge7235
      @hasanygeorge7235 4 года назад +10

      Seems like fire wizard will be hitters now instead of storm :/

    • @tRiXMaddy
      @tRiXMaddy 4 года назад

      @@hasanygeorge7235 yup

  • @jessierose5319
    @jessierose5319 4 года назад +25

    Balance was a huge slap on the face and that was my main wizard. So I am really annoyed right now. The new spell doesn’t make up what happened to Gaze.

    • @masonator2012
      @masonator2012 4 года назад

      Me too 🥺

    • @VisualRift
      @VisualRift 4 года назад

      Yeah exactly. I seen the new spells and how do we get those?

    • @richardm8155
      @richardm8155 4 года назад +1

      @@VisualRift Packs lol

    • @VisualRift
      @VisualRift 4 года назад

      Richard M is it like the Lore spells or do you need so many of them and have to go somewhere to create a spell? Also which pack?

    • @TheKingOfTrolling
      @TheKingOfTrolling 4 года назад

      @@VisualRift The new spells in test are available for gold by your teacher in the Arcanum (I haven't been on test, this is just what I've heard).They're gonna be exclusively obtained from the new lore pack. EDIT - Some key bosses might drop the spellements for the spells, but that would require a excessive access to hundreds of gold keys (unless you get lucky ofc).

  • @richardm8155
    @richardm8155 4 года назад +26

    Balance wizards rn: 🤬🤬🤬
    KI rn: 👁👄👁

    • @envy8397
      @envy8397 4 года назад

      👁👄👁

    • @Whofushi
      @Whofushi 4 года назад

      👁 👄 👁

  • @squeakytire6857
    @squeakytire6857 4 года назад +24

    I literally have been questing on my myth and just hit darkmoor. I can’t with this rn

    • @NexroFTW
      @NexroFTW 4 года назад +1

      I FELT THAT SAME HERE IM LVL 84 on my myth

    • @thelonewolfie34
      @thelonewolfie34 4 года назад

      I got it a couple weeks ago 😭

    • @koalamanda8299
      @koalamanda8299 4 года назад +2

      YEAH I got Mystic just days ago after grinding furiously to get to Darkmoor and now I’m probably only gonna max my Myth for bragging rights if they go through with these changes

    • @BeWaReJay
      @BeWaReJay 4 года назад

      「Ace_Nexro」 same but with my death, knew I should’ve picked fire

  • @jackmwmusic5964
    @jackmwmusic5964 4 года назад +10

    notice how the two most op schools for pvp (fire and ice) aren’t on here, but every other school is

  • @LunaRayArclight
    @LunaRayArclight 4 года назад +12

    ...I think my Ice wizard's Frost Giant (7 pips) does more than test realm's Mystic Collosus (475 vs 450) wow... I am sorry for the loss

  • @connorhayes2440
    @connorhayes2440 4 года назад +14

    As a max level Death Wizard, this depresses me greatly. Khrulhu was my favorite spell. Sigh. KI BETTER CHANGE IT BACK OR IMMA THROW HANDS!!!!

  • @EtherealistEquinox
    @EtherealistEquinox 4 года назад +25

    Winged sorrow does same damage as rusulka now I'm confused about which is a hitting school

  • @quinnie_here
    @quinnie_here 4 года назад +8

    Make these pvp exclusive! Focusing on the competitive aspect of a game and not the casual players can kill your whole game!

  • @gerasgera
    @gerasgera 4 года назад +31

    If this stays on myth, im confirmed leaving this game lmao

    • @camdenwyeth316
      @camdenwyeth316 4 года назад +4

      Me too

    • @UpperOne_
      @UpperOne_ 4 года назад +10

      forreal this spell is all we had LMAO

    • @camdenwyeth316
      @camdenwyeth316 4 года назад +9

      @@UpperOne_ YEAH and it wasn't even good before lmao

  • @qvertes5102
    @qvertes5102 4 года назад +12

    i'm honestly almost crying when i see this
    why can't they nerf spells ONLY in PvP fights, if IT was a problem- too big possible damage : )))))))))))))))

  • @sillygooserose2955
    @sillygooserose2955 4 года назад +13

    Everyone watching myth get murdered like this: stop it! *Sobbing* he's already dead!

  • @Memmyrabilia
    @Memmyrabilia 4 года назад +4

    Storm was a great school and they absolutely brought us to our knees I am lowkey livid

    • @Memmyrabilia
      @Memmyrabilia 4 года назад +1

      I really have been struggling getting better gear and now that they nerfed bug it’s like I can’t be a good storm now because I can’t do any damage unless I put hours every day into grinding. It’s tedious and just not fun anymore.

  • @quixtlies653
    @quixtlies653 4 года назад +5

    when i was younger my storm was only lvl 50-70 and i was always so excited to be “op” and get through darkmoor and have op shads now thats kinda gone, my max storm has trash stats and now its going to go ⬇️. i also dont even know if i want to max my myth anymore, ive been realky hyped to get to dark on him but now like..

  • @sergeanttailsrko4589
    @sergeanttailsrko4589 3 года назад +3

    I never understood why PVP changes carry over. Why couldn't they just slap a 'no PVP' tag on the spells instead of either sledgehammer nerfing or removing the spells?

  • @lionfish3326
    @lionfish3326 4 года назад +6

    Here's what I think they should do, why, and how they should implement it: First, pvp-wise I think these changes are pretty good and the shadow pip rating makes it a lot less random (I also may like them more as I have always thought shadow spells should be no pvp). So like most people I also believe that these spell changes should be pvp only and I also think shadow rating should be pvp only. This is because I find scaling everything back somewhat redundant as that doesn't really accomplish anything besides making our wizards feel weaker, and I think that progression and getting stronger is important. I also feel ever since darkmoor our wizards have not really been getting that much stronger, and these changes to shadow spells will only stunt the progression we feel to be even worse than it currently is. So here's how I think they should implement these spells as pvp only: First off I think there should be a marking on the card that says the card has changes in pvp and then you can right click the card to see what it does in pvp (similar to the backpack GUI), or there should be a button that would show all cards effects in pvp (I think this would be better but with Wizard101's jumbo code this could be harder to implement). Next I think that we should have both shadow rating and shadow pip bonus stats, and gear would give both shadow rating and shadow pip bonus stats. This is where the shadow pip rating being only in pvp would make sense as we could still use the old shadow pip chance like before for pve still, and of course shadow pip bonus/chance would only apply for pve and shadow pip rating would be the stat applied for pvp. Of course I would imagine that the shadow pip rating and shadow pip bonus would be at a proper ratio to each other but it could also allow KI to get creative with gear more meant for pve or more gear meant for pvp, by maybe giving some sets more or less shadow pip rating versus the shadow pip bonus.

  • @citrus1676
    @citrus1676 4 года назад +5

    When people agreed to the mystic colossus poll, they probably didn't expect a nearly 50% damage cut

  • @Tregingtons
    @Tregingtons 4 года назад +7

    dude wth im a death main, and i usually solo things because i find it easier and quicker than with a full team of rando's! I dont think the game will be as much fun if everything i used is nerfed. smh kings isle is just ruining there own career, at least to me.

  • @HobbesHobbiton
    @HobbesHobbiton 4 года назад +9

    These spells need to be nerfed, but not as drastically as they are right now. Use a chisel, KingsIsle, not a sledgehammer. 🔨

  • @gladysgocool9400
    @gladysgocool9400 4 года назад +6

    To be honest, all they could've done was make a side note for all the spells they had a concern about:
    (PvE- spell does this)
    (PvP- spell does this).

  • @fearlesswarriorz4126
    @fearlesswarriorz4126 4 года назад +11

    i got all schools max but storm in it deffo hurts us who use myth death and balance

  • @AtAchilles
    @AtAchilles 4 года назад +33

    Pvp is irreverent and unimportant. Final. I can’t bring myself to associate with that community

    • @pyrusmasterdan1
      @pyrusmasterdan1 4 года назад +2

      It’s the best and worst part about wizard101

  • @rileykrieger8179
    @rileykrieger8179 4 года назад +2

    When judgement that you get at level 28 is now a better hitter than the level 100 balance spell

  • @peytondees7710
    @peytondees7710 4 года назад +28

    What’s dumb is gaze was never “BROKEN” in pvp... it was literally fine and I’m not even a balance like balance was already one of the worse pvp schools recently.

    • @raptora4325
      @raptora4325 4 года назад

      yeah and there was a pretty good counter against it too but with all those pips for 250 and 250 and the bubble its not even worth it anymore

    • @zackisherep9246
      @zackisherep9246 4 года назад +1

      Balance was broken before scions anyways. But I'm just happy abominable got what it deserves

    • @NightVibes121
      @NightVibes121 4 года назад +6

      @@zackisherep9246 no, i'm not even an ice but even i know that weaver got did dirty. If they gonna nerf the hit they should have left the shield alone. And 500 damage is a bit too low for any shadow hit. Shadow magic is supposed to be powerful they should have at least made it 800 damage

    • @Shaggy87781
      @Shaggy87781 4 года назад

      @@NightVibes121 yeah everyone was like "why does weaver do the same as glowbugs" because glowbugs is aoe with an aoe enfeeble which is 12 pips worth of value for 4 enemies not even including the 1100 damage aoe. but now weaver is trash, i understand in pvp its a bit overtuned, but in pve its really not that op. 1 75% shield thats easy to remove is not too broken considering other single target hits in the game.

    • @TheKingOfTrolling
      @TheKingOfTrolling 4 года назад

      @@NightVibes121 Yeah, I never use weaver anyways because I don't PvP and just like the consistent damage that climaclysm gives (I like to know exactly how much damage my attack is gonna do before I use it). But for a lot of causal ice players, this will make soloing as an ice so much harder, as the shield was a pretty massive life saver. 99% of ice players don't have the best stats available. I've personally haven't seen any other ice with max stats like me (in game, I know of some players that have achieved it), but not everyone has the ability to do the same.

  • @ericklagos2752
    @ericklagos2752 4 года назад +5

    Okay but yall still dont realize they nerfed raging bull when it was already not doing much damage. And its a 6 pip (9pip) hit. They should just have a set damage on it of at least 900

  • @Dansjustvibing
    @Dansjustvibing 4 года назад +14

    I use the myth eye pet which gives good 8 pip frog I think around 800 dmg and stuns for 1 turn

    • @edwardmitchell9189
      @edwardmitchell9189 4 года назад +3

      Even better than that, it has a range of damage and the highest is 930

  • @petoni100
    @petoni100 4 года назад +8

    I just started playing again recently fresh after years and my first Char is Balance and now im debating wether to even keep playing because i was told when I got shadow spells I could actually do damage but now that seems conpletely contrary

    • @richardm8155
      @richardm8155 4 года назад +1

      No you still have Nestled Fate at lev 108. Get through Khrysalis, and then Polaris is a breeze. I have a lvl 126 Balance and Nestled is so so helpful. It's Balance's best AOE. Never used Gaze anyway.

  • @peytonleonhardt9332
    @peytonleonhardt9332 4 года назад +7

    it looks like king art might become a viable hit spell now.

  • @squeakytire6857
    @squeakytire6857 4 года назад +3

    I don’t understand why shadow spells have to follow the same DPP as our lvl 48 and 68 spells. They’re lvl 100 spells and a reward from a tough dungeon, the DPP should naturally be higher. Or even better, just separate it from PvP and keep the spells the same in PvE.

  • @jamesbond2231
    @jamesbond2231 4 года назад +5

    They dont need to nerf the spells what they could do is make 2 versions of the spell one for pve with more damage and one for pvp with a little less damage by around 20%. then they can make the one for pve not work in pve there for vies versa with the other one for pvp.

  • @talonstormwalker4741
    @talonstormwalker4741 4 года назад +4

    I like you blaze, but I disagree with the nerfing idea. Instead of nerfing the spells, kingsisle should buff the spells for the schools that need it. And while I get power creep is a thing, we're also already at lvl 130. That's a high enough level to where we should be starting to get really powerful.

  • @eric2870
    @eric2870 4 года назад +2

    As a balance solo quester, this is actual pain, cause we definitely needed a nerf aside from the fact that we have no damage to our names. So I gotta know now, are the PVP wizards who complained about damage nerfs happy?

  • @connasean4858
    @connasean4858 4 года назад +23

    The death nerf is INSULTING - just lost me playing

    • @TheKingOfTrolling
      @TheKingOfTrolling 4 года назад

      I just made a death 3 weeks ago, and power leveled him to max. A waste of a week lol

  • @resafaerie
    @resafaerie 4 года назад +1

    I've supported this game since I was 10, i'm 22 now. Have made so many memories, spent thousands of hours, and even met my husband on the game. KI has destroyed everything and has spit in the faces of their supporters one last time. Will never pay them a cent again. R.I.P. W101

  • @jok716
    @jok716 4 года назад +2

    now i don’t even know if i still want to get my death wiz 30 more levels until max, this just kills my drive to play the game. KI, listen to your amazing community and keep pve/pvp changes separate. that’s the best thing at this point in time

  • @Whofushi
    @Whofushi 4 года назад +3

    It’s sad how lulu does more damage than mystic colossus and myth should be the strongest spirit school for hitting

  • @edvin8992
    @edvin8992 4 года назад +8

    Ki is sipping lean

  • @gdkzdepressed9298
    @gdkzdepressed9298 4 года назад +2

    My dreams on being a very good storm had been crushed

  • @greyhigg7300
    @greyhigg7300 4 года назад +4

    If you don’t think Myth got hit the hardest the you clearly don’t have a myth. I have max storms, balance, death, and myth and there is no doubt that my myth is going to be the hardest to play now

  • @savii8629
    @savii8629 4 года назад +8

    Myth and death were my favorite schools and now they are destroyed. A lot of us wanted more aoe options and now the one good aoe we had is nerfed to the ground. It’s so upsetting

  • @LunaRayArclight
    @LunaRayArclight 4 года назад +2

    I enjoyed the video content. Continue the good work :)

  • @trevormyers2076
    @trevormyers2076 4 года назад +2

    As a death wizard who has played this game for so long i feel betrayed honestly. I was working on a balance wizard who is in azteca right now and cant believe my 2 main schools are nerfed so hard. I literally feel like having played this game for so long that this is a betrayal to everyone who has paid for crowns and membership for close to 10 years now.

  • @unknowngamerful
    @unknowngamerful 4 года назад +1

    Crazy how this game is still crazy active

  • @koalamanda8299
    @koalamanda8299 4 года назад +2

    I spent SO LONG grinding for Mystic Colossus so my Myth could finally be somewhat competent and now they’re halving the damage, like we’re not already the worst school since our normal AOEs suck ass and our minions are brainless

  • @jaxpollock8266
    @jaxpollock8266 4 года назад +2

    Congrats KI you really got the whole squad laughing.

  • @NotBrendan
    @NotBrendan 4 года назад +4

    If this update goes through I will leave this game. So much backlash is happening on Twitter and If they still go through with it then this community is doomed.

  • @jessicacollins6863
    @jessicacollins6863 4 года назад +3

    Me being a lvl 96 balance excited to get my shadow spells (legit 1 quest away) and then this happens

  • @borussell753
    @borussell753 4 года назад +2

    Gonna be honest y’all are freaking out about myth, balance, and death while over here realizing I can’t solo ice anymore. The only reason Ice is still decent is because if you get lucky you can do the same amount of damage as glow bugs which is an storm spell but is also and aoe. If you are unlucky you hit with colossus.

  • @tasoslts3480
    @tasoslts3480 4 года назад +4

    Myth was DEMOLISHED, Ice, Death, Life, Storm and Balance were destroyed, Fire was hit hard...

  • @wyattpepper915
    @wyattpepper915 4 года назад +1

    Just started a Myth character, in Dragonspyre now, and now I don't even want to play Myth because there's no reward to it, I think all of the Darkmoor spells should be really really good because playing through the game should lead to something like that. All of this is too directed towards PvP, and Kingsisle needs to think about how much harder it will be to quest through the late game on a Myth if Mystic Colossus is that weak.

  • @untitled-youtube-channel
    @untitled-youtube-channel 4 года назад +2

    Myth might as well revert to frog spamming again instead of waiting for shadows pips.

  • @fadimitry
    @fadimitry 4 года назад +1

    To be honest , shadow spells damage weren't a problem at all in pvp ... The problem was always the utility with it ... And now with a system which will give both players the shadow at the same time made it so clear that a damage nerf wasn't necessary

  • @aticowico
    @aticowico 4 года назад +6

    Rest in peace Balance

    • @blazedbabe333
      @blazedbabe333 4 года назад

      My highest level is balance & she doesnt even have shadow magic yet😩 Rip me ABRACADABRA (im on khrysalis)

    • @wizardychamp1835
      @wizardychamp1835 4 года назад

      @@blazedbabe333 You abracadabra'd on your balance ?

    • @camdenwyeth316
      @camdenwyeth316 4 года назад

      @@wizardychamp1835 Might as well at this point

    • @Alan-xe4st
      @Alan-xe4st 4 года назад

      right balance didnt even have ONE strong point about them, really their spells are just not very powerful and rely on chance. i have a max balance and im crying

  • @EtherealCatGames
    @EtherealCatGames 4 года назад +1

    Dude, I have a max level balance right now and I've already been having plenty of trouble with any quests unless it's just setting up for other people to hit.. this is just sad man, i don't feel like they needed to really nerf most of these or at least not so hard.

  • @kateelizza9046
    @kateelizza9046 4 года назад +2

    as a myth wizard, thank you 😭😭 i really hope these get fixed

  • @styxxfiremancer
    @styxxfiremancer 4 года назад +1

    My best guess is that at some point like with the spring update, they’ll change it back a little just to placate us. If they do that, we can’t sit back and act thankful to an extent, we would need to give as much feedback as possible so that they change them back, or just incorporate a system where the nerfs are pvp only. Because this was seriously unwarranted

  • @hankers8994
    @hankers8994 4 года назад +6

    As a Myth player, I am sad 😞

    • @argenindragon5307
      @argenindragon5307 4 года назад +1

      Right I really did all this for colossus and i use it for everything bosses and all like bro

    • @derekward3512
      @derekward3512 4 года назад

      I'm sorry for what kingsisle has done to your school 😞

    • @tarani5aviel
      @tarani5aviel 4 года назад

      as a storm main I mourn for us both 😭

  • @cringestealer
    @cringestealer 4 года назад +2

    The myth spell went from being equal to the death spells dmg to 145 less and only 1 shield getting removed vs getting full hp after every hit... You guys DO NOT have a clue how hard I struggled in the worlds till polaris, because everytime I bladed up I had to use a single target ability and then get killed by the mob helping the boss because I couldnt even heal myself... If anyone has the audacity to compare the nerfs of any spell with mystical collosal I swear to god you have some serious issues with logic...