George Soule: Mayflower Passenger Documentary
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- Mayflower Pilgrim George Soule is the subject of this documentary. It covers the life of Mayflower passenger and Plymouth colonist George Soule; the Edward Winslow household to which he belonged; as well as his later wife Mary Buckett. Researchers Caleb Johnson, Sue Allan and Simon Neal discuss the genealogical and DNA research that has gone into trying to puzzle out his origins and parentage.
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Writer, Editor, Producer: Caleb Johnson, MayflowerHistory.com
Special guests: Simon Neal (SimonNealResearch.co.uk) and Sue Allan (MayflowerMaid.com).
Narrator: Brian S. Atwood (briansatwood.com)
© 2020, Caleb Johnson, MayflowerHistory.com
Thank you not only on behalf of the George Soule family (my 11th great grandfather) but for all the Mayflower pilgrims who gave up so much for freedom and who laid the foundation for this great country.
Thanks for recommending the video grandpa!
I'm also related to George Soule, I'm his 12th great-grandson. although I'm not near England I'm descended from his daughter Susannah.
Also my 10th great grandfather.
And....George Soule is my 7 th great grandfather❣️. Family history is a divinely inspired effort.....And its just a blessing finding out about his life. My, what these stalwart patriots did to obtain Freedom.....true HEROES❣️
My 9th GG. His daughter Patience married into the Haskell Family. That family name carried all the way to my Grandmother Margaret who was born in 1912/China, Maine.
I also descend from his other daughter Susannah who married into the West family
George is my 10th great grandfather - so interesting to learn more about him!
Gorge S. In the Mayflower history is your great grandfather Wow amazing
Wow amazing family history indeed
He's my 10th Great Grandfather, also, Jillian.
He’s also one of my 10th great grandfathers through his daughter Patience. So I say hello cousin 🙂👋🏻
@@wisper217 hello cousin.
George Soule is my 10GG. We’re a direct patrilineal line...my grandad was Joseph Soule. We’re related to quite a few more passengers. We’re all intertwined.
I reckon we are cousins. Imagine that.
George Soule is my 12th great-grandfather. Thank you for the video! Great work.
- Meaghan from Canada
Does that make us cousins?
Very interesting. Thank you. I just discovered that George Soule is my 10th great grandfather.
Many thanks!! George Soule is my 9th great grandfather.
He is my 9 great gpa as well from his daughter Susanna soule
My 9th GG also
My 10th great grandfather - Excellent work. Thank you!
I am fortunate to have Soule Genealogy where George was the beginning, put together by my 2nd cousin. Of course, it goes through the family to get to my childrens’ level when it stopped. We now have grandchildren so more work needs to be done to keep it current. George is my 8th great grandfather.
He is also my great grandfather because my mom is a Soule. I would also like to learn more
Could you imagine how it must’ve felt to finally touch land again .....
George Soule is my ancestor. He’s a fascinating figure in history.
Fascinating. I can’t believe the amount of research and the number of documents you unearthed for this documentary. Well done.
George Soule is my 9th great grandfather. Thank you for this!!!
He’s mine 😂😂
He’s my 11th great grandfather as well! Hey there cousins!!
Adding my thanks to this string of comments. George is also my 8th great grandfather. I am really enjoying your research and I really appreciate your approach
What a great documentary. Powerful opening and interesting throughout. Thank You for posting this.
This is great! My son is doing a report on George soule. Thanks so much! He is my 9th great grandfather!
George is my 8th great grandfather. My sister in law also has him on her tree, which makes us distant cousins.
He is my 10th great grandfather ❤️
This presentation is very well done, tho the mystery continues.
George is my 10th great-grandfather on my maternal grandmother's side.
What’s my mom name then BECUASE he my great grand
Thank you all. Much Research here, nicely produced. Looking forward to future research videos. George is one of 5 Mayflower Grandfathers.
My mother was able to connect my father's lineage to George. My father is now officially registered with the Mayflower Society as George Soule's descendent. George is such a mystery! Thank you kindly for this research.
He is my 11th great grandfather ... so cool !!!!
George Soule is my 11th great grandfather on my Dad's side! I'm grateful to have the resources to discover my true roots.💞
George is 12 generations before me!
How are some
people saying 12 and others as little as 8 generations? How would that possibly work?
Thank you for your research. George Soule was my 8th great grandfather. My mother's family member, Edmund Weston (1660-1727), married Rebecca Soule (1659-1732) the daughter of John Soule (1632-1732) the son of George.
9th great GrandFather. What’s funny is we were always confident that we were directly related to John Howland who fell overboard and was rescued but then thought we were related to his brother who came over a year or so later. Now Ancestry tells me I’m a descendant of him.
George is my 8th Great Grandfather.
My ancestor was Francis Eaton, through his son Benjamin by wife Christian(a). I love the record of his life and his travels to this country and their adventures of survival.
Thank you for the work you put into this research.
He is my 8th great grandfather, thank you doing this - history comes alive....
Mine too hahahaha
No cap
He’s my 10th great grandpa on my moms side
We are all cousins! Hi everyone
11th great grandfather
So cool to see all these comments from George Soule's grandchildren. He was my 11th great grandfather through his son John.
I am a descendant of William Bradford through his great granddaughter Hannah Bradford Arthur. I might have to check it might be granddaughter- it's in a newspaper article
This is awesome, Thanks! I am a GS descendant.
Back in 2012, I single-handedly went down the same YDNA research path to establish my own Mayflower descendance from Edward Fuller (to me an 11th great-grandfather). I found a correctly descended male Fuller living in Nevada (with whom I share my 5th great-grandfather Fuller) who agreed to do the YDNA test and in early 2013 the test results were a positive match to all other tested Fuller males who have complete paper trails pointing to Edward Fuller. This research took me exactly one year to accomplish. There were MANY dead-ends, disappointments and a lot of nail-biting along the way, but in the end, it was a success and what a journey it was.
Splendid! Thank you!
Thank you for all your work and research. It brings the story alive in a way superficial efforts do not.
amazing how science on one hand can be so fascinating and on the other drive people nuts with its precision
My son is a direct descendant of George Soule on his father’s side.
Thank You For This Documentary. George Soule was my 11x Great-Grandfather.
Thank you for this. I come from his son John. I was born November 1964. John was born in November of 1632. JOHN SOULE, b. 1632, Plymouth, P, Massachusetts; d. Bef. November 14, 1701
George Sowle is in the book of New England marriages prior to 1700 page 639, as having a child born in 1623...could have been , the land division was done early, and the child born late in the year...Whatever, go see for yourself.. Good luck. This was a lovely production.
I loved this. I found out three yrs ago that I was a descendant of George Soule, via John. Three yrs before that I wrote a fictional series called Love's Muses. I randomly picked Duxbury MA as the setting for half of the third book. Also, I am a fourth child of six, my fourth child of 8 was born on Aug 11. NONE of this was outside the scope and Realm of our wonderful Creator.
Hi cousin. I'm also descended from George's son, John. Are you descended from his first wife Rebecca Simmons or 2nd wife Esther? I'm descended from Esther and their son Joshua.
@FinalJeopardy I'm also a descendant via John and then Johns daughter Rachel.
@@GoodtoGaia So am I.
Me as well.
@@Daniel_Soule and you’ve got the name! All male descendants! Cool
This was very interesting. Thank you. I am a descendant of William Bradford, through his second marriage to Alice Carpenter, & their son, Major William M. Bradford.
I have a close friend who is too
I too am a descendant of George Souls. Thanks for the video.
Nice work. Thank you all for the effort. Cheers
Around 1980 I portrayed Goody Soule Mary Bucket, at Plimouth Plantation (now called Plimoth Pawtuxet Museum).
He’s my 10x great grandpa, so this was interesting!
Oh, I hope you do more of these!
Thanks! I do plan to do more. They just take a very long time to write, edit and produce, so I won't be doing things weekly or anything like that, maybe a few times a year. I also would prefer to do more "on location" footage for many of my envisioned ideas, which isn't very feasible given the current travel conditions.
Very nicely done, Caleb~ Keep up the fantastic work! I'm looking forward to any videos of this style you may have on my ancestor, the doctor and deacon Samuel Fuller. I'm subscribing as of now for future updates~
This is my 11th great grandfather. This is so cool
Excellent job, Caleb! I enjoyed this, and learned a few things. It's refreshing to have 3 researchers who really, really know the subject speaking on camera. Kudos!
Really well done. Thank you so much for the detailed information.
I know this story let me explain too. The Mayflower. The pilgrims actually tried to sail to America twice before making their Famous journey on the Mayflower! I have seen the house before too it looks beautiful and WOW I don’t know what to say
Great Job! I thought this documentary was very well done.
I am not a descendant of George Soule, to my knowledge, but I am to 10-15 other Mayflower passengers.
I do hope that you do more of these documentaries on the other passengers and passengers of the Ann, Fortune and other early ships and Plymouth settlers.
I was at the San Diego Mayflower Colony meeting March 2022 where you (Caleb) spoke. I look forward to hearing more about the research that you, Sue Allen and Simon Neal are working on.
I am a descendant of Mayflower passengers on both my mom and dad’s sides. They are Myles Standish(GSMD approved), Edward Doty(Standish line), William Brewster(GSMD approved), Mary Brewster, John Howland, John Tilley(approval in progress branches off Standish line in early 1800s)), Joan Hurst Tilley, Elizabeth Tilley Howland(3 lines), Peter Browne and Francis Cooke(same family line as Howland/Tilley). I am researching probable lines also to William Bradford(same family line as Brewster, merges with Brewster line in early 1800s), another William and Mary Brewster line(also merges with Brewster and Bradford lines in early 1800s), and 3 Hopkins lines, Stephen Hopkins, Elizabeth Fisher Hopkins, Constance Hopkins and Gyles Hopkins(families of Smith and Hodges lines). I have your Brewster Book Manuscript (purchased last year). And look forward to more.
I am related to many of the same passengers. 4 of the Hopkins. Thomas and Joseph Rogers, John Tilly and Elisabeth Tilly and Joan Hurst Tilly. John Howland, also. Of course, George Soule.
Never met a white who wasn't a decendant of this voyage.
I was just doing some research on my Soule family connection. I found at least 5 Soule family members served during the Civil War in the 2nd Wisconsin Volunteer Regiment. One was 15 when he joined.
Excellent... thank you.
Looking forward to the next documentary.
As a result of recent research into family history and DNA testing with Ancestry, was shocked to find that we're descendants of William Brewster, my 9th great-grandfather. We had no idea.
That is how I felt too - shocked. Had no idea!
I just found out I am related to George Soule. So cool.
Edward Doty/Doten is my ancestor, thank you for mentioning him! I am surprised to hear that he may have been illiterate, that’s an interesting theory.
Beautiful work!
Hi. I am descended from George via his great granddaughter Prudence Wilcox who married Col. Nathan Taylor of Charlestown, Rhode Island. I'm afraid I disagree with you over his origins. I am almost certain he was NOT from an English family. I've been researching him for many years. I feel confident he 's from a Belgian Walloon family that was living in London then in Leiden. I believe he became associated with Winslow when he was operating the Brewster Press with John Soule (likely George's older brother), and George helped them. The Sol/Solis/Soule family may well have known Winslow from his London days too, they were involved in printing. John (son of Jan/John/Johannes) who was Winslow and Brewster's assistant died in an ink accident about the time that King James had ordered Brewster's arrest and he went into hiding. John's pregnant widow fled with John's apprentice Edward Raban to Scotland, where she had the baby and that line ended up in Australia (confirmed by YDNA testing which matches the American lines of George Soule). Raban even published a work afterward in Scotland regarding the episode. The family worshiped at the Walloon Churches in the area, also with the Pilgrims. THAT is how they were associated. They may also have known Winslow in London earlier when Winslow was there, there are records of their presence in London prior. Jeremy Bangs has found information about them. Also, the names of John Soule Sr.'s children in Leiden (he was also a printer and knew the Winslows and Brewsters -worshipped at same churches) are extremely similar to those of George. Not also how George spelled his name in various signings. I think you need to focus your search efforts in Belgium and Holland. Also, check the Australian Soule family which DNA matches, this has already been documented, I'm surprised you haven't seen it already. Also George and his family started the Pilgrim Press again after religious persecution tensions had died down in the colonies. I feel in my bones he was NOT English. As Sue Allan suggests, there may be no birth record for him due to fear of persecution as dissenters/walloons/huguenots etc. Or he was born in London or other city in Holland or Wallonia (Belgium), or even Germany. The families moved around in those days for various reasons. You need to look at the broad picture, not just focus on obscure in hypothetical connections. The SOL/Solis/Soule famil WAS associated with Winslow and Brewster in LEIDEN. That is the family you should be focusing on. Do not forget there were Walloons and Huguenots associated with the Pilgrims also in Leiden and Amsterdam, indeed many of the early voyages over, and that came on the later ships as well. I dont think you have all of the information that's available right now. I'm glad you are looking, but I strongly suggest you focus your efforts on Belgium and Holland. There is a Jan Johann Van Sol Solius Solis the AnaBaptist of Dordrecht, Leiden, Amsterdam, Robitten, Bardeyn, East Prussia, Danzig and Brussels a couple generations prior that I'm almost certain this family descends from. Kind regards, Taylor
Hi Taylor, thanks for your comment and for watching. Johannis Sol might be a relative of George Soule in some way. But unfortunately much of the research into this family is based on highly speculative hypotheses and not actual fact. Edward Raban, for example, simply wrote in the prefix of one of his books that his master was an irreligious wealthy man who regularly broke the Sabbath and died in a fire while boiling a vat of varnish. But Raban did NOT mention the name of his master. A researcher proposed that perhaps the master was Sol, and weaved a story around it, but without any hard evidence. To my mind, a wealthy, irreligious man, does not seem to match up that well with a refugee Walloon family that was presumably poor and highly religious. The Australian man of Scottish descent's DNA test (which is posted on the Soule Kindred DNA project on FamilyTreeDNA) simply shows a similar yDNA signature to George Soule. A researcher very speculatively hypothesized this meant that the hypothetically-dead Sol's widow (building a new hypothesis on an already speculative hypothesis) went with Raban to Scotland and had a hypothetical son from her then-hypothetically-deceased husband who then changed his surname to Forrest, whose descendants then ended up in Australia. Or, it could just be that Forrest and Soule share a male ancestor much further back in time, which seems far more likely to me. I am definitely familiar with the Sol family's sojourn to the Walloon church at Austin Friars, London. Simon and I are the researchers that uncovered the Sol family's admission to the church there in 1585, ahead of the Sol/Labis marriage in 1586, and we found them in the tax records there as well in 1583 listed as a stocking-maker. Jeremy Bangs makes no claims that the Sols of Leiden were the ancestors of George Soule. He simply states on page 300 of his "Strangers and Pilgrims" that "we might speculate that George Soule could have been the son of John Soule a Leiden book printer." I fully agree with that statement: it is a reasonable speculation. We plan to do more research in both the Netherlands and England when the pandemic lets up. There are good candidate Soules still in England as well. In 2018 we published one of them: Edward Winslow's wife Elizabeth Barker was from East Bergholt and Chattisham, and her father Samuel had several interactions in the manorial records there with a man named John Soule. We have a few candidates left to investigate elsewhere in England as well.
I dont know about Belgium ..my mother found some evidence of Norway howeve you probably know better than I but I agree...Not English.
@@mayflowerhistory4391 what's interesting is that I have a very strong DNA match from Gedmatch with a woman who lives n the Netherlands and she says she has a lot of DNA matches from the Plymouth area. But I have zero Dutch DNA - 1/2 English/Scottish/Irish on my mom's side and then half Portuguese on my Dad's side.
The possibilities are many. Since Brewster and Winslow were in Leiden and involved in the printing of Perth Assembly along with Johannes Sol, it stands to reason George Soule could be Johannes' brother. It makes sense that George would have had some connection to Brewster and Winslow to have been able to and invited to make passage on the Mayflower especially since George served Winslow. It's quite interesting to ponder and I do hope to eventually learn more through records or DNA.
George is my 9th Great Grandfather. Nice to meet all my cousins here in the comments.
George Soule was an ancestor of mine, as well as William Brewster and others.
This was my one of my moms great grandpa
Thank you very much
I love this! I’ve created a database with illustrations and whatever I could find about the passengers. I’ll link to this video for George Soule descendants. Thank you!
Thanks for the info
My 9th generation Grandfather was Jean Souille’ . He was a passenger on the HMS Nassau that brought French Huguenots from Britain in the late 1600’s. They settled in Manikentowne, Va. (Richmond). Wonder if he was related to Soullle’ French Protestants from Southern France? Many migrated to England fleeing Catholic. persecution in the early 1600’s.
It is not unreasonable that Soule could be from Huguenot ancestry; there is also a Huguenot Sol family that should be investigated further too. If we could find a modern-day Souille-surnamed man willing to take a yDNA test, it would be possible to see if their yDNA matched that of the descendants of George Soule.
Regarding George Soule. Your hypothesis about George being desended fron French Huegonots makes sense. Those were my thoughts. Another possibility would be, was he a bastardized( illegitimate) son of someone in England perhaps known to the Pilgrims? Was he an orphan who was adopted or accepted into a family & for matters of probity assumed the name Soule. If the latter 2 cases are correct there may not be a DNA link through the father.
@@mayflowerhistory4391 My son Robert has taken a DNA. I’m sure he would volunteer his results. Who do we contact?
My 10th great-grandparents George Soule & Mary Bucket/Becket. My lineage is through their daughter Susannah Soule who married Francis West.
I am from that branch of the tree as well.. George, Susanna, Susanna West, Ruth Barber, etc.....
Just saw this! Only found my family history a few years ago after being adopted as an infant. So delighted to finally know my roots--am also descended from George through Susannah.
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Hello cousin! It's really cool to see how many people are connected through George and Mary Soule.
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Hello cuz! That's great that you're able to connect the dots. DNA has definitely helped when it comes to researching family lineage.
@@laurahuffman2994 Greetings cousin Laura, it really is amazing. The amount of descendants for the small surviving population of the Mayflower is impressive. A lot of my lineage ended up in western NY.
George Soule was my 9th great-grandfather. He was the 25th sigher of the Mayflower Compact,. Rumors circulated on a rebellion upoin arrival, I suspect Geroge Soule was one of those plotting the rebellion, So Bradford drew up the Mayflower Compact to pledge to unite as One body polickt
After surviing the starving times. the Ann arrived with a resupply Bringing many of pilgirms family, and Mary Becket was among them. They married and had 9 children and Middle son George was my 8th great grandfather,. Who also had 9 children. a middle daughter Mary married Joshhop DeValle. And the DeValle line comes down straight to my grandmother.
George Soule became a purchaser and a gentleman by the time he died.
My records are skechy and your videow fills in some loose ends. thank you.
hey cousins! great documentary, hope we discover more about George soon :)
i have known two men with the name Soule in my life. I didn't know that i was distantly related to them.
love this ❤️
Just beautiful
Great intro! I come from where Mayflower family as well - Williams & Winsor.
George Soule is my great grandfather from my moms side family. My mom is a Soule and the more information i can learn about him would be great.
Thank you for this info George is my 11th great grandfather I hope you find more about him
Idk about being connected to Soule yet but Constance Snow is my 16th cousin.
George Soule is an ancestor; I appreciate the information. Now I'm wondering if my paternal Grandmother knew that she was a direct descendent of a Mayflower passenger.
Thank you so much for the information.
Georg Soule is one of my 8 direct ancesters who signed the Mayflower Compact. His son Nathaniel initially caused a big hubbub when he fathered a baby with an Indian maiden. He then married a proper English woman named Rose Thorn and that couple are my direct ancestors.
George Soule is my 8th Great Grandfather
Steve Warling and I did similar y-DNA research on the Gifford family in England, in order to determine the origins of William Gifford (d. 1687), of Sandwich, Massachusetts, many of whom are Soule descendants. We identified something like 15 English clusters and got the DNA signatures of many of them, but nothing matched.
His memorial stone is 5 minutes from my residence and steps from my ancestor's memorial stones. ❤
Very interesting story, I believe my wife is a direct descendant of George Soule through the Haskell family of Maine. And I am a descendant of William Brewster and Richard Warren. This is really cool.
I am a descendant of George Soule through the Haskell Family in Maine too! Patience Soule married into the line.
My Great Grandfather was Ernest Burton Haskell. His father was Leander Ellery Haskell.
His father was Samuel Cony Haskell.
His father was George Washington Haskell.
His father was William Haskell Jr.
His father was William Haskell Sr
His father was John Haskell Jr.
And his father was John Haskell Sr who married Patience Soule. The daughter of George Soule.
Really enjoyed this Caleb . John alden is possibly my 10 / 11 grandfather .
If this haplogroup is correct for John Alden, R-M269, then he is my great-grandfather as well. I just haven't gotten to him in my tree yet, but I will. Hi cousin.
@@TheOneAndOnlyMichelleAngelique Descendent of John here.
We are one species & therefore ALL related. 🙃
Thank you for sharing this
video.👍. ☮️💖🌻
As a Brewster descendant, I find that it is a pleasant diversion to hear of the lives of other passengers.
Manyou are frickin hilarious. Love your style
Interesting. We have the great fortune of having a family member who did the detailed genealogy research of the Soule family going back to 1620. One of documents includes the Soule family bible (ca. 1790) in which a record of the births and deaths were recorded. My grandfather, Thanet Francis Soule, (1898 to 1972) has an unusual first name. The Isle of Thanet is within Kent County. We would need to go back and carefully examine the research the possible birthplace of George Soule. Curious. My middle name is Thanet. Although I knew my great grandmother the reason for giving her son the name Thanet was never explained.
So all of us here are blood related....
Yes we are! I descend from George Soule's son George
George was married to Mary Becket born about 1605 in England and died Dec. 1676 in Duxbury. I am descended from their son Nathaniel, his son Sylvanus, his son William, his daughter Hanna who married William Newcomb , their daughter Charlotte who married who married Russell Jones, their son James who married Martha Loruhamah Jones which looks to be his first cousin. Their daughter Amellia married George Dwight Williams their daughter Ida Amellia married Frederick Monroe Greenwood who's daughter Eva Mae married my Great Grand father Ashton Philander Derby. If anyone but me cares...
I am also related to Nathaniel’s son Nathaniel’s daughter content!
I'm descended from John.
Very interesting, I'm a male Sole who lives in England. I believe I'm related to the Gloucestershire family which was mentioned.
The Soule Kindred offers free yDNA tests to men in England with the Soule (and variants) surname. Feel free to reach out to me (my contact info is on MayflowerHistory.com) if you'd like to participate. We could probably confirm for you whether you descend from the Gloucestershire family (we've tested three men so far from this family); and if not, we might be able to pinpoint which family you do descend from.
My gr gr gr gr gr grandfather was Thomas Rogers 14th Signitorie of the Mayflower Compact. He owned a mercantile in Leiden, Holland. He came to USA and his son Joseph my gr gr gr gr grandfather went to live and was legally adopted by William Bradford. Thomas passed the first year.
@@nrwarvicarsusanswindelles7678 I am descended from Thomas and Joseph, also. Plus a few more Mayflower couples.
George Soule is my 12th GG this is an amazing find thank you! Francis Eaton is my 11th GG and Francis Cooke is my 11th and 12th GG 😅😅
Jillian I didn’t know that Gorge Shoule was your 10th great grandfather
Could George Soule originally have had a different name and then changed it to George Soule later. He might have also been adopted and that's why the genetic markers are not adding up.
Thank-you for making this video! I enjoyed it. I know I am a direct descendant of George Soule, Patience Soule married John Haskell, Haskell being my maiden name. I always wondered the story behind the ultimatum clause in the will. Was there fight going on between the siblings? It must be a good story!
9 great grandfather
George Soule is my 11 th great grandfather on my paternal line
I'm a descendant of John Howland and Elizabeth Tilly. I did know about the connection with US presidents, but not about Joseph Smith
I am, also, a descendant of John and Elizabeth Howland. And 8 other passengers of the Mayflower. Wouldn't be surprised if you found a few others related to you.