Physically, Jo Warne (the original Peggy) is a bigger woman than Barbara Windsor and it's not hard to see why the producers selected her to play the Mitchell matriarch. She does look she is Phil, Grant and Sam's mum. Fast forward a few years later, the producers of "Eastenders" found themselves in a pickle. The show had suffered a ratings slump and it was felt that the series needed to have "star pull" to draw back the viewers.... Enter Barbara Winsdor and the rest as they say is history......
I stopped watching when Barbara Windsor arrived I’m sorry but never could stand her it turned from a real drama inti a circus show. ! The original Mitchell mum was better ❤️
Fun Fact: the late Frances Cuka, was also cast as Peggy Mitchell in 1994. After filming various scenes, Cuka was scraped and thus entered Barbara Windsor into the role
Frances Cuka seems more notable for the jobs she didn’t do rather than the ones she did. She was the original Jo in the stage version of A Taste of Honey but was ditched in favour of Rita Tushingham for the film version.
Sad seeing such a young beautiful fresh Danniella Westbrook... her addiction has really battered her since! I like the original Pegs btw... very convincing Eastend matriarch. Babs' Peggy has more star quality.
I bet this surprises some - that Barbara Windsor was *not* the original Peggy Mitchell! I remember this Peggy when Ricky went round to beg Sam to take him back. This Peggy chucked all his clothes out the bedroom window. Barbara made her first appearance when Phil was hospital after the whole Sharon Gate!
It’s crazy to think Sharon and new Peggy only interacted for a few months before Sharon’s departure in ‘95 (and they were friends in ‘91). When Sharon returned in ‘01 Peggy reacted as though they were lifelong enemies!
If circumstance were different, Jo Anne Warne could have also played Karen Taylor. I live in Canada and I saw the Episode where Karen goes after Phil after Keanu is Missing. God, she was "Gangsta!" US Soap Ladies don't go on like that. It also parallels Jack Stauffer who from 1970-1972 originated the Role of Chuck Tyler (A Future Doctor) on All My Children yet it was Richard Van Fleet who made the Role His Own.
It kind of parallels when US Soap Actress Gillian Spencer "Originated" The Role of Viki Lord on One Life To Live when it debuted in 1968, then was recasted in 1971 by Erika Slezak who played the character until the show's Cancellation in 2012. She would win Six Daytime Emmys the highest US Acting Award. Yet Barbara Winsor made the role her own. In the US there was a Soap Writer named Roy Winsor who wrote for a Show called Search For Tomorrow.
I used to like this Peggy as a kid. And her boyfriend at the time. Can't remember his name now though. Then they replaced her with someone who looked and acted nothing like her and she wasn't with her bloke anymore. I was rather disappointed and confused about the whole thing! Lol
This Actress would have been perfect on Coronation Street for some reason. She looks like she could have been a Member of The Carter Family. Look at Ricky with that Long Hair.
Thank you for putting this up! I remember this one so well....I know I'm showing my age but I don't care cos at least I know I wasn't just imagining it lol
ahhh if they would have known back then they should have had a shot of peggy staring at the pub from the exterior going: 'now that's a pub' and walking in slowly going around the pub in awe. Then meeting sharon - no change there
It also reminds me of John Abbott on The Young & The Restless. John #1 was played by The Late Brett Halsey, then Actor Sean Garrison played "Substitute" John but it was Jerry Douglas who made The Role his own that he played from the 1980's until the 2000's.
Toni Kalem originated the role of Angie Perrini on Another World before she left and Maeve Kinkaid replaced her. Toni would later play Angie Bonspiero on The Sopranos and directed The Episode where Carmella is all alone in the house. Maeve Kinkaid is also Sister In Law to Meryl Streep and from 1981-2009 on and off would play Vanessa on Guiding Light.
I don't go against original casting I really like Jo Warne as Peggy. We know she was established before Barbara Windsor took over and did a great successful 16 years on the show but if you look back now and look at Sam Mitchell Danniella Westbrook was cast (then recast) and came back the same will happen to Peggy. (It's like a trick)
It makes me laugh how they change actresses and blindly believe that the audiences will either not notice, or not care. Same with Daniella Westbrook and that other one. Not only different actresses, but completely different personalities
You think that's crazy. In The US 15 Actors played Tom Hughes on As The World Turns. The Longest one was Scott Holmes (1985-2010). He was "Born" in 1960. 13 played Jamie Frame on Another World & 13 played Patti on Search For Tomorrow. All were owned by Proctor & Gamble.
Jo Warne was the better Peggy. She was 'ard just like the 2 boys she's brought into the world. Barbara Windsor was the wosrt replacement. Didn't even look like the original and trying to act 'ard just isn't in her league.
If there is one thing that British Men have in common with African American Men is that they are very close to their "Mums'. Many grew up in Single Parent Houses.
@Offsmack1 "Eastenders would not be the programme it is today if wasn't for Barbara Windsor" Oh come now that's hyperbole. Babs is a dreadful ham a lot of the time and the show does fine without her.
She's FAR more convincing than Barbara Windsor.I could believe Jo Warne as Peggy.Barbara Windsor just seems to play herself or her Carry On character,without being much of an actress at all.
@captainhero518 peggy was surpose to be a former beauty and had all the boys after including the mitchell brothers sr (eric and archie) i think babs is more real in the role
Jo Warne can't come back because she is DEAD! So can everybody stop saying that Jo should come back as Peggy now that Babs has left! And just for the record, I prefer Babs to Jo...
It's weird cos she didn't no they should be owning the vic and next week the vic is set on fire and peggy might be killed I hope she doesn't it wouldn't be the same
barara peggy much better, daniella sam is the best. wat i dont get, in this peggy likes sam but not keen on the vic, babs peggy hates sharon and loves the vic.
This is not peggy mitchell, So we're suppose to believe that Peggy Mitchell was Fat and then Suddenly turned into this short little thing known as Babs. I mean obviously this was the original Peggy. I know that but what I mean is The Characters are Extremilly Different. I must switch off 50 seconds in, I can't stand Jo Any longer
I have only just learnt that there were two Peggy Mitchells. Mind blown 🤯
Physically, Jo Warne (the original Peggy) is a bigger woman than Barbara Windsor and it's not hard to see why the producers selected her to play the Mitchell matriarch. She does look she is Phil, Grant and Sam's mum.
Fast forward a few years later, the producers of "Eastenders" found themselves in a pickle. The show had suffered a ratings slump and it was felt that the series needed to have "star pull" to draw back the viewers....
Enter Barbara Winsdor and the rest as they say is history......
Normally don't like recasts, but Barbara made this character her own!
I stopped watching when Barbara Windsor arrived I’m sorry but never could stand her it turned from a real drama inti a circus show. ! The original Mitchell mum was better ❤️
@@rickyodriscoll9729 I don’t know how you can even say that.
@@rickyodriscoll9729 you're mad
@@Anonymous_Anon882 As I have said that and I stopped watching. !
@@joestewart-paul7181 🤣🤣 Not at all
I think physically, Jo Warne works...just because Phil and Grant kind of look like her. But, to be, Barbara Windsor will ALWAYS be Peggy.
Fun Fact: the late Frances Cuka, was also cast as Peggy Mitchell in 1994. After filming various scenes, Cuka was scraped and thus entered Barbara Windsor into the role
Frances Cuka seems more notable for the jobs she didn’t do rather than the ones she did. She was the original Jo in the stage version of A Taste of Honey but was ditched in favour of Rita Tushingham for the film version.
I'm the same age as EE, so luckily I was too young to remember the OG Peggy. RIP Barbara
that is not the opeggy mitchell that every one knows, but you have to respect that she is the first.
Wow, never saw that actress in the role before. And look at Ricky's hair!
Sad seeing such a young beautiful fresh Danniella Westbrook... her addiction has really battered her since! I like the original Pegs btw... very convincing Eastend matriarch. Babs' Peggy has more star quality.
This Peggy looks like Shrek. Babs is THE Peggy Mitchell.
I bet this surprises some - that Barbara Windsor was *not* the original Peggy Mitchell! I remember this Peggy when Ricky went round to beg Sam to take him back. This Peggy chucked all his clothes out the bedroom window. Barbara made her first appearance when Phil was hospital after the whole Sharon Gate!
It’s crazy to think Sharon and new Peggy only interacted for a few months before Sharon’s departure in ‘95 (and they were friends in ‘91). When Sharon returned in ‘01 Peggy reacted as though they were lifelong enemies!
Chips & white bread for dinner? CARBS, CARBS, CARBS!!
No one cares! 🙄
I agree they should bring Kim Medcalf back as Sam. I would welcome her back in open arms.
Back now!
@@iwillb3inurcmm3nts3ction7 it took them long enough (and she’s still not what she was in 2005 or close enough to what she generally should be).
I prefer Kim's Sam to Daniella's
@@leejones8582 you and just-about everyone-else.
i prefer barber Windsor as Peggy michel
If circumstance were different, Jo Anne Warne could have also played Karen Taylor. I live in Canada and I saw the Episode where Karen goes after Phil after Keanu is Missing. God, she was "Gangsta!" US Soap Ladies don't go on like that. It also parallels Jack Stauffer who from 1970-1972 originated the Role of Chuck Tyler (A Future Doctor) on All My Children yet it was Richard Van Fleet who made the Role His Own.
Frances Cuka who plays Grandma in Friday Night Dinner was the second actress to be cast as Peggy Mitchell in 1994 before casting Barbara Windsor.
good nostalgia I remember Jo Warne in the role
She didn't die I just think they wanted to cast Barbara Windsor
although this peggy seems more realistic
It kind of parallels when US Soap Actress Gillian Spencer "Originated" The Role of Viki Lord on One Life To Live when it debuted in 1968, then was recasted in 1971 by Erika Slezak who played the character until the show's Cancellation in 2012. She would win Six Daytime Emmys the highest US Acting Award. Yet Barbara Winsor made the role her own. In the US there was a Soap Writer named Roy Winsor who wrote for a Show called Search For Tomorrow.
It happens all the time in TV.
I used to like this Peggy as a kid. And her boyfriend at the time. Can't remember his name now though. Then they replaced her with someone who looked and acted nothing like her and she wasn't with her bloke anymore. I was rather disappointed and confused about the whole thing! Lol
Wish Grant was back in EE
This Actress would have been perfect on Coronation Street for some reason. She looks like she could have been a Member of The Carter Family. Look at Ricky with that Long Hair.
Thank you for putting this up! I remember this one so well....I know I'm showing my age but I don't care cos at least I know I wasn't just imagining it lol
ahhh if they would have known back then
they should have had a shot of peggy staring at the pub from the exterior going:
'now that's a pub' and walking in slowly going around the pub in awe.
Then meeting sharon - no change there
Can I see more videos of Jo Warne as Peggy?
It also reminds me of John Abbott on The Young & The Restless. John #1 was played by The Late Brett Halsey, then Actor Sean Garrison played "Substitute" John but it was Jerry Douglas who made The Role his own that he played from the 1980's until the 2000's.
Toni Kalem originated the role of Angie Perrini on Another World before she left and Maeve Kinkaid replaced her. Toni would later play Angie Bonspiero on The Sopranos and directed The Episode where Carmella is all alone in the house. Maeve Kinkaid is also Sister In Law to Meryl Streep and from 1981-2009 on and off would play Vanessa on Guiding Light.
Jesus Christ. God Bless Barbara Windsor. They nearly made a mess of Peggy.
I don't go against original casting I really like Jo Warne as Peggy. We know she was established before Barbara Windsor took over and did a great successful 16 years on the show but if you look back now and look at Sam Mitchell Danniella Westbrook was cast (then recast) and came back the same will happen to Peggy. (It's like a trick)
It makes me laugh how they change actresses and blindly believe that the audiences will either not notice, or not care. Same with Daniella Westbrook and that other one. Not only different actresses, but completely different personalities
You think that's crazy. In The US 15 Actors played Tom Hughes on As The World Turns. The Longest one was Scott Holmes (1985-2010). He was "Born" in 1960. 13 played Jamie Frame on Another World & 13 played Patti on Search For Tomorrow. All were owned by Proctor & Gamble.
So she likes Sharon, and hates the Vic? Right ok then.
I love bray wyatt
@@stevenharrington4548 shut up nobody was talking to u
Also they didn't really reject her because Jo Warne wasn't actively playing Peggy when they gave Barbara Windsor the role.
Grant couldn't go to the pub because he was banned after nearly killing Eddie!
Jo Warne was the better Peggy. She was 'ard just like the 2 boys she's brought into the world. Barbara Windsor was the wosrt replacement. Didn't even look like the original and trying to act 'ard just isn't in her league.
Lots of people were saying that they wanted to see BW behind the bar at the Vic. A campaign was started and the rest is history.
Jo Warne will rise from the ashes of The Vic when they search for Barbra Windsor's body
bit of a height and weight difference for starters but babs really is the best
Barbara Windsor is better
well Jo Warne wasn't in it for very long so I don't think it matters
oh yeah I remember her,,,
DAYUM!! She must have had one hell of a good holiday before she back!
I prefere the first Peggy as Barbara Windsor was a bit OTT and comedy acting.
They actually casted two before her, they just weren't working
Barbara is much better :D
BRING BACK KIM MEDCALF, she is the best Sam
If there is one thing that British Men have in common with African American Men is that they are very close to their "Mums'. Many grew up in Single Parent Houses.
i miss jo warne playing peggy.
i think she would of been a lot better than babs is now.
Jo Warne Looked More Like Phil And Grant’s Mother, However Wouldn’t Have Been Great Long Term
@Offsmack1
"Eastenders would not be the programme it is today if wasn't for Barbara Windsor"
Oh come now that's hyperbole. Babs is a dreadful ham a lot of the time and the show does fine without her.
she did a couple of episodes
She's FAR more convincing than Barbara Windsor.I could believe Jo Warne as Peggy.Barbara Windsor just seems to play herself or her Carry On character,without being much of an actress at all.
Interesting, but clearly no effort to match the appearance of the two actresses.
barbara windsor plays peggy way better so i prefer barbara
Maybe now that Barbara is leaving for a couple of years she could alternate with Joe Warne. You do one year, i'll do the next haha! Only joking.
hammer and chisel lol
dont remember her at all,do remember that dodgy harido of rickys lol
@captainhero518 peggy was surpose to be a former beauty and had all the boys after including the mitchell brothers sr (eric and archie) i think babs is more real in the role
Anybody know the song playing in the vic? :)
I don’t know who this is but she definitely is not Peggy Mitchell
BARBRA WINDSORS WINS
gosh she doesn't look anything like barbara
Now that Barbara Windsor is leaving Jo Warne should be brought back to the role she created.
So Glad They Changed The Actress :) Barbara Windsor Is Much Better Than Jo Warne
Ricki is very polite
I like Jo warne
Confused
Its not even like the same character, its pathetic when soaps do this!
Every time I see Daniella Westbrook as she looked back then, I feel very sad that her drug addiction ravaged her once very pretty face.
Jo Warne can't come back because she is DEAD! So can everybody stop saying that Jo should come back as Peggy now that Babs has left! And just for the record, I prefer Babs to Jo...
I can't find anywhere on the internet that says she's dead.
She's not dead.
say--what--liv And so is the character now. 😀
say--what--liv She wasn't dead when you posted this comment. But she is now. She died in 2017. Peggy Mitchell is also dead now as well anyway
What a mess.
Barbara FTW!
hahahahhaa ricky butcher
It's weird cos she didn't no they should be owning the vic and next week the vic is set on fire and peggy might be killed I hope she doesn't it wouldn't be the same
I don't like her compare to Barbara.
@lmartin454 hi
barara peggy much better, daniella sam is the best. wat i dont get, in this peggy likes sam but not keen on the vic, babs peggy hates sharon and loves the vic.
Is Jo Warne still alive?
she died in 2017
This is not peggy mitchell, So we're suppose to believe that Peggy Mitchell was Fat and then Suddenly turned into this short little thing known as Babs. I mean obviously this was the original Peggy. I know that but what I mean is The Characters are Extremilly Different. I must switch off 50 seconds in, I can't stand Jo Any longer
eww this peggy really dosnt suit it new one it beterrrrr soo muchh
Didn't work
Barbara was better
eeeeee no D:
This Peggy is so dull
hammer and chisel lol