Glad you guys enjoyed the video! Be sure to check out my video on a $100-$120 DIY wireless IEM hack I came up with. I use this actually at my acoustic looping gigs. Check out the video here: ruclips.net/video/AoykGJRcPPw/видео.html
@@ScottUhlMusic your videos absolutely rock! I have been building an IEM rig for my bands and your videos have been critically helpful. Love your stuff man 🤙
Hey! how many people are in your band? I'm still new to this, so to be sure, there are 4 of us in my band. So all 4 of us have to buy one of these in-ear systems? Can't we send different signals from one transmitter to several receivers? Sorry it's a silly question but I'd rather ask before making a bad purchase, thank you!
@@pierrea9422 For sure, it all depends how many mixes you want. Each transmitter will transmit only 1 mix, for which you can pair several receivers by matching the frequency of the transmitter. For each member to have an independent mix, they will each need both a transmitter and receiver. Also note that if you have multiple transmitters, you will need to set a different frequency for each so they do not conflict. Out of the box they all use the same frequency and that will cause issues. Hope this helps!
Great review Scott! That’s really nice that it comes with the antenna extender and a hole on the rack mount. So many cheaper units won’t. And thank you for testing these things out, when you can, while you’re playing live. I know it must be an inconvenience sometimes because you have your set up, probably, dialed in perfectly and then you have to test new gear. Thank you for doing that for us!
My acoustic duo runs a few tracks live. Bought the PTM 11 (mono version of this) for its output. We perform sitting down. Mix goes into ptm11 into my ears and the out goes into my partners behringer p2, to his ears. Hope this helps someone.✌🏾
Thanks! And wireless ALL depends on the environment. I highly suggest you watch the following two videos: Choosing the Right WIRELESS SYSTEM - A Comprehensive Guide ruclips.net/video/Xi2JcMomjQ0/видео.html ruclips.net/video/Xgw96rY4TAc/видео.htmlsi=fbw_QwQW_D5uHghy Hope that helps 🤘
What a shame that the 900 MHz frequency band is not allowed to be used in Germany. This would have been an immediate purchase. Even with shipping from the US, this would be a great deal. :( Apart from that, I really enjoy your videos. Keep up the great work!
@@ScottUhlMusic This whole frequency thing is just a mess around here. From what I could figure out is that everyhing from 865 MHz up to 1785 MHz is not allowed for "consumer usage". That explains why the Phenyx systems are not listed on Amazon Germany. Might be a topic for a seperate video to compare which bands are legal in different regions? Although this would be a tough topic to present in an entertaining way...
Yeah I know that some countries do not allow it. When I did a Europe tour in 2019, Germany was the only country I could not use my Sennheiser wireless in, which was interesting. Those were in 500mhz. But I believe it’s allowed now
@@ScottUhlMusic yup, the 500 MHz region is now allowed. With all the changes there over the past years, I can fully understand why companies are targetting the WiFi frequencies that much. At least you can be sure that these system won't be banned in the foreseeable future.
@@ScottUhlMusic Good news. I've been in contact with Phenyx customer service (they answered my e-mail within hours, thumbs up!) and they are offering the PTM-10 system also in a 500 MHz band version. It's listed in their own webshop but not on Amazon though. RUclips doesn't like external links in comments, so maybe add that link to the video description. This would be the safe option for Germany and Europe in general and I'll be ordering one today. :)
Great videos! I have a similar unit that I bought a couple of years ago but the received was always “noisy”. Not very noticeable on stage but still there. This system seems to have cleaner audio, is that correct? Thanks!
Yeah this one has clear audio for sure. And I’ll be honest, sometimes my Hi-end Sennheiser system gets a little of the noise you are talking about. There are so many thing that can be causing that, like an instrument that is causing the sound problem, and your ears are just getting that signal. That might be a problem because there is a lot involved with in ears. But these do sound great when I use them. Cheers!
@@ScottUhlMusic thanks for the info. I actually tried the lekato wireless following your advice and I like it although I noticed a bit of “more noise” when playing direct to audio interface and using bias plugins (vs cable). Still, I guess good enough for recoding ideas/practicing /small gig
P.S this “little bit more of noise” only happens with bias fx plug-ins though. Strangely enough I don’t notice it with other plugins like Ampire. Still, very usable sound. Keep on the great work!
Thx for sharing, good informative video on the unit. Just a question though, I wonder if anyone has used this as a wireless extension for a zone speaker for DJ music? TIA for any inputs shared.
Thanks for this review Scott! Question: If I had 3 PTM-10 transmitters in the same rack, could I put a passive antenna combiner for two systems and have the third system with its independent antenna?
You make the best informative and real live perfuming reviews of gear, it's so appreciated. IU have one question if I may, does this unit comply and work with the frequencies within Canada.
Thank you! :) and I believe it does, when you go to their website they give you shipping options based on your country and they ship you the correct one 👍
Ok thank you Scott. Just wanted to be sure it wasn’t my ears deceiving me. Love your videos. They are immensely helpful. Just received my X32 after 6-months wait. Yay!!!
Please check on your rechargeable batteries recommendation. While looking into this option, I found that NiMH are unacceptable. The Phenyx receivers need more voltage than the typical 1.2v of a NiMH. I was told to use Li-ion AA's because they held 1.5v until they "die" and need recharging. But we've stayed with Alkalines since the Li-ion are still much more expensive, and should not be left on charge for extended periods of time (like from Sunday to Sunday). IMHO, Li-ion rechargeable batteries are just not practical for us, yet.... Otherwise, great video!
Hi Scott. Thanks for your videos.I know nothing about wireless stuff and your videos are of huge help. I'm working on a solo live set where I play multiple instruments and planning to go wireless. After some research I'm between the Phenyx Pro PTM 10 and the Nux B-7 PSM. Which one do you think would fit best a one guy band setup? Also, one last question: Do you see any problem in using one of those monitoring systems along with two Phenyx Pro PTG-12 (guitar & bass)? Thanks!! PD: if I finally go with something you has provided a link for, I'll definitely use it.
I recommend this one for sure. And 3 wireless should be fine all at once, just be cautious of using too much cheap wireless all at once. That’s the biggest mistake I see from my comment section. I would watch this video: ruclips.net/video/Xgw96rY4TAc/видео.html
@@ScottUhlMusic thanks for your answer. Watch the video and asked Phenyx about it. According to them, they should play well together as they are in different frequencies. I think I would give it a try. Sounds like a good idea 😬? (On top of that, I still have to see how to amplify my acoustic cello). Thanks again. Awesome channel!!
I just purchased the PTM-10 Phenyx Pro w/ two recievers and I want to thank you for the recommendation! I have been playing with the wireless unit for a few days and I am noticing a drop in bass frequencies. I'm still testing out the PTM-10 before the return time has expired, but I am wondering if there is a way to increase the bass? Second question: is this common? Third: are there any other wireless IEMs that improve on this attenuation of the bass frequencies? Thanks Scott!
“Lack of bass” is almost always from the in ear monitor earbuds themselves. The earbuds give you the most of your tone. Try getting better earbuds and that should help a lot 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic Thanks for the reply. I did a test and plugged my CCA-C12 earbuds directly into the headphone jack and noticed full bass...once I switched them over to the wireless receiver the bass was brought down significantly (though not completely gone).
According to the specs, the system only goes down to 60 Hz. That cuts out the low E and B of a 5 string bass. Maybe getting a set of "bass head" IEMs known for extended sub bass would help? I just got the PTM-10 yesterday and sometimes play bass, so I'll be on the same quest. Time to hit the Head-Fi discussion board for some serious research!
Hey Scott. Love the channel! I’ve been having some serious issues with my PTM-10. My 4 piece rock/jam band has been building an In-Ear rig over the past month or so. We use a zoom l-12 board and have gotten it dialed in a wired situation. We just added the ptm-10 and have been getting some real bad noise/distortion/rattling. I understand some regular wireless hiss, but this is specifically happening with our playing. Our notes have a hiss that is dynamic to how hard our attack is. I have plugged the 1/4 directly into the unit (sounds good), plugged into another monitor send from my mixer (sounds good), but sounds terrible using the wireless. I have my gain staging on my mixer with plenty of gain on tap, and have tested the unit with a max amount of gain in and running it low. Any suggestions? Thinking of just biting the bullet and buying a more expensive unit. Thanks!
Check out this video I just released: ruclips.net/video/Xi2JcMomjQ0/видео.htmlsi=CJnveWuHSA_xkyVA It’s interesting that IEMs are hard to find ones that scan, but wireless mics and guitars are easier
Thank you Scott for all your videos. I have the kimafun monitors and one of the receivers just died today (only 6 months since the purchase date), so I'm looking for an upgrade. I really like stereo monitors, so this would be my better choice. Do you think this monitors are better than the xvive4? Thanks again.
Thanks Scott, love your videos, very informative. With this Phenyx PTM 10, there doesn't seem to be a way to scan, either manually or automatically. Is this a big deal breaker, or am I making too much of a fuss about not having it. Other units that you can manually choose the frequency on the receiver gives a user the option to listen for interference before turning on the transmitter (to be able to choose a clear frequency), correct? If it is a big deal, can you recommend a likewise priced stereo unit that can provide that?
That’s correct, you cannot scan with this. It’s more expensive to get IEM systems that have a scan. I go over that and my recommendations in this video: Choosing the Right WIRELESS SYSTEM - A Comprehensive Guide ruclips.net/video/Xi2JcMomjQ0/видео.html
@@ScottUhlMusic But you can sort-of scan by turning on the receiver, select a channel, and listen for interference with the other models, correct, or am I wrong? I'm think any of these would be able to do that: Shure PSM200, Anleon S3, Galaxy AS 1100, XVive U4, Audio Technica ATW3255.
You can: 1) turn off the transmitter 2) turn on your receiver. 3) if the RF meter is showing NO bars, that means you are on a clear channel 4) if the RF meter IS showing bars, you need to change channels to find a clear channel 5) set your transmitter to the same channel as the clear channel you found
@@ScottUhlMusic That's exactly what I thought, but to be clear, you cannot do that with the Phenyx PTM 10, correct? Because you cannot select a channel on the PTM 10 receiver, correct? Thanks,
Not manually, but you can change the channel on the transmitter, sync, and that will change the channel. Then turn the transmitter off and check if the RF is better
Great content Scott, congrats! I just bought a Phenyx PTM10. It’s working good but I hear some sort of noise from time to time, like sand, kinda like static. I’ve seen other videos where it makes that sound when it’s getting very far from the transmitter but I’m trying it out very close. Any idea why is it making those sounds? Any tips on what I may be doing wrong? Thanks in advance.
@@ScottUhlMusicThanks for your response. I’m gonna try changing channels. I don’t it’s bad power thing since I tried it in our studio and it has very good electrical installations. Best regards.
Hey Scott, If you buy one of these, do you need to buy/have a mixer to set the individual mixes? Watching these I'm missing how you setup your full band mixes? If there's another video let me know! Thanks.
Yup, watch both of these videos: ruclips.net/video/Kp0tQCfxzWg/видео.htmlsi=e1HYPMgWxQG4UPh4 ruclips.net/video/XQjFhkQTVP8/видео.htmlsi=ClJKTmduRXSnqqnv
Scott ! I'm leaving in Canada. What will be the best UHF choice for the Phenyx PTM-10 ? 500mhz or 900 mhz ? I'm using one NUX C-5RC and one NuX B-5RC for my guitars. Thanks !
Nice review. I'm thinking of getting this. I'll be plugging from one of the headphone monitor outs (stereo 1/4 inch) on my Zoom L-12 digital mixer into this unit - so presumably I'll need a stereo 1/4 jack to 2 mono 1/4 jacks cable in order to do that. Does this unit come with that cable, or does it need to be bought separately? Thanks.
If you are getting stereo out of whatever you are sending, you can just plug into one input on the IEMs or you can get the cable you mentioned. You would need to buy that cable 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic thanks and cool! I only have a personal monitor running on cat-5 from the monitor system, that my in ears plug into. The singers have wireless, but the band is wired. I'm trying to create a wireless system by inserting a transmitter between the personal mixer and my ear buds. I'm thinking it might work, so I'll give it a go!
Hey Scott I am re watching your videos...Phenyx Pro has a version with 3 receivers and 1 transmitter...for example: I will set the transmitter sending a signal on the left for 1 receiver and the on the right the other 2 receivers, so in this case I will have independent control over my left mix but the other 2 will share the same mix correct?
It all depends on the frequency that you are on and if it’s open or not. Besides that, keep it in clear line of sight from transmitter to receiver and don’t put a bunch of wireless antennas near each other
@ I’m going to try your suggestion of checking with the transmitter off and receiver on. Also see if I can get the antenna up high. Just weird how much better the mono version works in the same place.
@ I’m making it maybe 20 feet line of sight then can get these horrendously loud pops. I have it about 9 feet off the ground now. One of the techs has rf explorer so I’ll see if he can look
Hi Scott, I'm from Argentina, I've been watching your videos and I really appreciate the material shared! What do you think of using 4 or more of these systems would it be conflictive? In my country, 500mhz is allowed and I am finding out if 900mhz is also possible, how to divide 4 teams into 500 and 4 into 900mhz (in a hypothetical case) or could they all work together in 500mhz without problems? I am also waiting for some news from Phenyx Pro about antennas and combiner for these systems, since they only have this systems for microphones. I await your answer, thank you very much
Yes, you could use 4 at once. I would space them on on the stage if you do not use an antenna combiner, and you should be fine in most situations. Using 2 on 500 and 2 on 900 is also smart!
Just recently found your channel and subscribed. Great job with all the content and appreciate the view points and candid pros and cons of the gear! Our band is venturing into the territory of wireless IEM's. Definitely interested in the PTM-10's, as I'll be funding the conversion for a four-piece band that my wife and I play in. It appears that you would recommend a couple in the 500Mhz range and a couple in the 900Mhz range if my plan was to have all four units in a rack. Is that correct? Would I still need to consider an antenna combiner if I went 2@500 & 2@900? Also looking at the CCA C-12 monitors for my wife and I as an upgrade to provided set. Thanks again for sharing your content! @@ScottUhlMusic
Hey curious. I’m using Allen and heath CQ 18t mixer. My aux outputs are mono. Will it still give me a stereo sound or do I need to use to mono outlets into the wireless transmitter box to get stereo?
To get stereo you’ll need 2 aux outs to go into the PTM 10. One in the L and one in the R and you want to make sure those aux outs are linked in the mixer 👍
Both are great options 👍 if you have nothing in 900mhz, it’s good, just don’t put a bunch of frequencies In either frequency bandwidth with cheaper stuff
Your videos are excellent. Im new to the IEM game. Im really torn between the Phenyx ptm 10 and the Anleon S3. Anyone have an opinion. Im a percussionist/singer
@ScottUhlMusic I've decided on the PTM 10 mainly because the estimated delivery date is 30 days from today and I like the fact that the PTM 10 has a case. Hope I don't get a gig out of the country though due to the bandwidth issue. Thanks
Hey Scott, this maybe a stupid question and this maybe off topic, but I wasn't sure where to ask, .. do you have any video's on setting up a mixer ? we use it for just vocals and the harp (harmonica) , but I always have a hard time setting the volume of the speakers without getting feedback, and it's always from the harp. tried moving the speakers all over the place away from the amps etc and still that high pitch feedback that drives you crazy. Any idea advise or where to go to figure it out ??
Not really for how to set up a mixer in that way. I’ve done this for in ear monitors, but not how to do compression eq and gain staging and stuff like that. I’m willing to bet there are some good videos on other channels about that though!
@@ScottUhlMusic thx for responding Scott, just thought I'd ask.. and I really like the idea of your gig set up with no visual cords on stage.. that really clean look. .. and I'm a little envious, you're playing gigs as a full time musician. Every guy's dream. I'm just a wannabe.. lol .. rock on
Haha my obsession with a clean stage has cost a pretty penny! Lol. Now I have the backing tracks rig though which has the iPad on my mic stand, so it’s not completely clean anymore 🥺 Someday!! 😅
Hey! I finally got it... I don't know whether I'm doing something wrong, but feeling a bit disappointed atm. The volume is too low, it is being super noisy and the sound quality is quite bad. Every time I move one step in any direction it makes noises... I tried to follow the steps in the manual, but might be missing something (I hope). Any advice? Thanks!
“Super noisy” can come from a lot of things. You could have a defective unit, if so it’s under warranty. Or you could have it configured poorly or something else is sending noise. I would do an elimination process to try to solve the issue. I know that mine works extremely well, and my drummer uses his at every single gig and it works great.
@@ScottUhlMusic Hi there. Coming back to share some updates on this. Hope it is helpful. I bought two PTG-12 and one PTM-10A. One of the PTG-12 and the bodypack of the PTM-10A were not working properly. I contacted support and they answered right away. After having sent a video with my setup they told me they would send the replacement for the faulty items. They've just arrived... The new PTG-12 seems to be ok. The PTM-10A is not as noisy as before, but the sound quality is pretty bad. I'm in conversation with support again but nothing they suggest seems to improve the situation, so I'm going to return the PTM-10A.
I noticed that these are out of stock on Amazon and their website has Phenyx Pro PTM-10A. Do you know if that's an updated model or what the "A" is? I also noticed it lets you choose a frequency range. Thanks!
Have you run this through aux sends? I have this coming out of aux 4 and in to PTM-10 left input. Sound is coming from my phone blue toothing to an alto Bluetooth device into channel 12 on my UI16 and don’t get any signal (I think). Works fine when I use a powered speaker. Am I doing something obviously or ridiculously wrong? Thanks
Aux 4 of what? A mixer? I’m confused as to how you are routing it. Make sure the channels are set the same, and whatever you send into it, the transmitter/receiver should get the signal
@@ScottUhlMusic Yes it’s my Soundcraft UI16 mixer. You’re probably correct on the routing and my description is obviously flawed. I’d better just keep experimenting and see if I can get it to work. Thanks
@@ScottUhlMusicDude I got it! After contacting Phenyx Pro for their advice; I went back at it and all it took was turning things up on my mixer! All of a sudden I was getting signal (visual) to the transmitter and sound through the receiver! Sounded really good, too. Thanks for your help.
The "HISS" IEM I'm on the second unit of this model, the first one stopped working and they sent me a new unit, the second unit works, but it has a lot of noise (hiss), it's not just noise floor, but when playing the bass, each note comes accompanied by noise (hiss), I started to notice this more and more after reading some comments on the internet, but I must admit that playing on stage I end up ignoring this noise, in the end I just need to have a sound reference just to guide me along with other musicians, and not sound quality to evaluate how my instrument sounds, that's the basics to me. This is a known issue with this model
Interesting… I’ve used this without that issue, and my drummer used his for maybe 2 years without a problem. My singer still uses his model to this day without issue as well
@@ScottUhlMusic In fact, I noticed that this noise happens mainly on bass guitar (Im Bassist), but if I play a drum track for example, the noise is barely noticeable, if I play bass along with a drum track it seems that the noise is masked and completely acceptable. I will try to record a video demonstrating this and let you know here. I believe in you anyway , thanks for the video and feedback
Scott, I purchased the 900mhz but they sent me the 500mhz. There was a constant noise floor that was pretty loud no matter what frequency was chosen. In comparison, my Audio-Technica is dead quiet. Did you notice any noise during your experience?
Got a 500 mhz one as well, and it hisses a bit. Just got it, so I haven't tested it with out mixer or manually scanned for frequencies yet. Did you find out what was the problem @skullstjohn ?
Is it possible to run your left input from one aux out and the right input to another aux out, and then pan each receiver far left and the other far right so that you can have two different mixes with one transmitter?
Since there's no auto-scan feature for finding a clear channel, is there a way to tell if a channel you've manually selected is relatively clear? Other than just picking one and seeing if it drops out :D
You can use a RF scanner or something like that. Without having a scan feature on any wireless, you kind of do just have to guess and check if you don’t have any sort of way to scan
I’m Currently using a Behringer P1 for my IEMs. In mono mode I have a click/cue signal in my left ear and my IEM mix in my right ear. It’s it possible to do the same thing with this system? Also is it hard to switch from mono to stereo on the receiver? Is it possible to switch back and forth quickly on stage?
@@ScottUhlMusic Thanks for the answer. My whole band loves your channel. We’ve bought a few items based off of your reviews. Your IEM series changed our lives.
Awesome! Thanks, and I’m glad to hear that 😊 And yeah, IEMs are one of the best things you can do and probably the best investment I’ve ever made as a musician 🤘
I have a friend who has a U4 and while it’s obviously more compact, it only has 1 input and it’s on 2.4ghz as opposed to this which is on 900mhz. I would definitely go with this one.
Finally got one of these and I’m having a problem with hissing/static when audio goes over the wireless. When I’m plugged straight into the headphone jack it’s fine. But when using the body pack and I talk into a microphone or play a bass guitar, I hear an annoying hiss. I tested it against a diy monitor setup like you detailed in another video (Phenyx pro ptg-12 wireless guitar system plugged into donner em2 headphone amp) and the diy solution sounds fine… I’ve tested a bunch of different gains/volumes and I’m about to give up and talk to support. Ever heard of this issue?
Interesting… I have not heard of that problem with these. You could try another channel. It could be a problem with the unit as well and they have a great warranty on their products. But even my expensive IEMs get a little hiss sometimes. I don’t know enough about it to answer why, but occasionally it happens with my Sennheiser IEM system too. Try different rooms/outlets as well
@@ScottUhlMusic I’ve tried it in different places and used different frequencies. I need to try a few more though to see if there’s any difference at all. As always, appreciate your reply! :)
@@ScottUhlMusic this is apparently what I’m hearing: “Wireless mics operate at very low RF transmit power levels (typically 5 to 50 mW) and as a result the audio signal to noise ratio is not very high. Analog wireless mics use “companding” to improve the apparent S/N by compressing the signal in the transmitter to reduce its dynamic range, and then doing a precisely matched expansion of the signal in the receiver. This does not actually improve the S/N, but it fools the ear into thinking the S/N is better.” That’s why I’m hearing noise only when there’s sound going through. Someone told me they had a similar issue and it was a bad antenna. I’ll keep you posted!
Interesting… maybe I need to learn more about this if I’m gonna have a music tech channel lol! I mostly just review gear if it sounds good or works well, and don’t go into details. So I should probably learn :) thanks for the comment
@@ScottUhlMusic Update on this: Phenyx Pro told me that this is normal behavior. There’s static when just one person is playing or singing (bass guitar is the worst), but it gets mostly better when everyone is playing. They explained its because there is noise inherent to the system over a wide range of audio frequencies. When everything is playing, more of the noise gets covered up vs just a bass guitar playing. I still hear static some when our male vocalist is singing (especially with S’s and plosives). You didn’t notice this at all on yours? I did find some other reviews on Amazon that said they had they same issue. Some returned it. Perhaps Phenyx has allowed some tolerance in the performance in this regard?
I bought a PTM-10, but I got a big problem: there are a high background noise in the earbuds. Some kind of background sound does all systems like this have, but this is a lot higher than my old Shure 200 (which is completely silent). The noise is the same if there are sound into the sender or not, and it is the same if the sender is turn off or on. NB! This was the Phenyx Pro PTM-10 in the 500MHz series, - all tests are of 900MHz. The noise was so loud that I returned it. I got the money back, but not the expenses for transport and taxes which are almost 300 USD. I don't get an answer from Phenyx if they find something wrong with the system I returned, or if it is supposed to be so noisy. If there is an error in the system they sent me, they should pay the transport costs. If there is going to be that much noise, other customers need to know before they buy. I do not recommend anyone to buy the Phenyx Pro PTM-10 500MHz or buy anything from this company that does not cover the expenses a customer has when the system they send have errors.
I just used the PTM-10 yesterday and I didn’t have this problem. My drummer also uses it as his main IEM rig too. There are countless possibilities on what could be causing noise. It could have been a faulty unit, or it could have been a ground loop, dirty power, a bad frequency, etc. I hope that you did change to another channel to see if that gave you a better signal. I still stand by this product and I do highly recommend it for musicians on a budget. It’s worked very well over the years for me and my band mates 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic I tried everything, the Phenyex company gave me a lomng list of tings to test and try. But the noice was impossible to remove. Do you have the 500MHz system?
Mine is in the 900mhz system. 500mhz is extremely reliable though. Some gear just doesn’t work with specific setups based on the wireless environment, how much wireless is on stage and other things. It’s a bummer it didn’t work for you, and I know how frustrating that can be. I’m just saying that my drummer and my singer gig with these at every single show we do (around 60 a shows a year with just that band alone), and it works really well for them.
I got a similar experience with the 500MHz and came here to see if there was a solution, but not. For me it is useless, I was just now playing a soft pad with my synth and the noise went mad. I play with a click and an otherwise clean wooden sound sounds like a snare with brushes. The good thing is support was very responsive and they are gonna refund the money.
The next price level up is around $800 for the Shure PSM300s, or $1000 for the Sennheiser EW 300 IEM's. Both are great systems, but are definitely a lot more expensive than this one. I'm honestly not familiar if there are ones around $400-$500 or so unless you get them used.
In mono mode, can I get a click in one hear and my monitor mix in the other hear? I am currently using the Behringer P2 with the click track inputting into one channel and the mix in the other ear. I was hoping to do the same with this system.
Can 2 separate mono monitor mixes be used so that the transmitter sends out Stereo, but each receiver can just choose one of those sides to have their own monitor mix? In other words can this one unit with 2 receivers be used for 2 separate monitors? I imagine the receivers can be panned completely Left or Right, but then do you only have sound from one Earpiece? Thanks for the detail!
I ended up buying this system and always get a ton of noise from the receiver, even if I change the group/channel. I'm a total wireless newbie so I'm not quite sure what could be causing this. I've run audio to it from the aux out of a Presonus 32R, a Focusrite interface, and directly from my laptop headphone jack. Monitoring a single instrument, recorded music via spotify, and both at the same time... still lot's of noise. Any ideas what could be causing it?
“Noise” is quite a broad term, so I’m not sure what you mean. Make sure the antenna is connected properly and there is clear line of sight from transmitter to the receiver. Also check the cables. Also check to make sure the signal going in is not too loud or too quiet
Maybe "snow" is a better term? A subtle white noise that is consistent regardless of volume, input, or channel. The quality of the sound from the body pack seems pretty good, but the underlying noise is very distracting, even with a lot of instruments or tracks playing through the iem. I haven't brought it to a gig so maybe it would be less noticeable there, but it's pretty distracting. I'm going to assume this is the price of "budget" but on the off chance it is a manufacturing defect or setting, I figured I'd ask.
So i am pretty new to the IEM world and was gunna grab these as a starter for a little while. I noticed they have a 900MHz range and 500MHz was wondering which one is the best frequency to work with? or if it really matters.
Is it this model that's in 500mhz? I haven't seen that, I've only seen 900mhz for these. If you get a choice, I would go with 500mhz, but 900mhz is completely fine as well
@@ScottUhlMusic yep same model. If you go to their website I clicked on the 3 reciever model but they have singles as well with the option of 555 to 575MHz or the 902 to 928MHz. But both are listed as the PTM-10
@@justinlaw5217 Interesting. yeah I see what you mean. They don't seem to have that option on amazon. At least I didn't see it. Again, either one would be fine. I usually prefer 500mhz, but whichever one should work great!
The 500MHz is for the European market because the radio frequency requirements there are different from the ones in the US. 900MHz is what they sell on the US market.
Just have bought one and tried the next day. After pairing to transmitter my receiver looses connection in a couple minutes and shows «Mute». It pairs to transmitter properly and shows the same group, channel and frequency but keeps showing «Mute» and doesn't get any signal. What could be the problem with? Anyone encountered this problem?
Sennheiser IEM will have way more channels. I actually recommend both in my wireless tiers videos here: Choosing the Right WIRELESS SYSTEM - A Comprehensive Guide ruclips.net/video/Xi2JcMomjQ0/видео.html
@@GuArYtO This one is more reliable than the XVive but the XVive is more portable. It depends on which is more important to you. More reliability, this one. More portability, Xvive.
Yup that’s correct. You can send 1 stereo signal to 1 receiver or 2 mono signals to 2 different receivers with this one. I did a video with the steps on how to do that here: ruclips.net/video/A7Drmjn6vsQ/видео.html
Yes. Whatever is sending you the audio will plug into the IEMs. If you watch my Beginners Guide to IEMs, that will help: ruclips.net/video/Kp0tQCfxzWg/видео.html
Very promising but I would like to see this product in a different frequency. In the Netherlands, (a lot of other European countries) it is not allowed to transmit on this frequency.
Can you do me a favor, can you look it up on Amazon in your country? Some companies have different frequency options based on the country you are in. I’m just curious if they did that with this one…
I do not hear the slight hiss if you set the gain properly. If the volume is up too high on your ears you will get a hiss, even on my nice sennheiser IEMs I get that. But no, there isn’t hiss with this unit
I’ve been using 3 transmitters and 5 receivers for my band for a little over a year now. I thought my mixer was broken because there’s no stereo to these at all from the receivers. The headphone jack on the transmitter is stereo though. I followed your setup, and tried everything, but no stereo to my IEMs. Not on any of the 3 different frequencies we use or on any of the 5 receivers. Has anyone gotten stereo from the receivers?
And, I have 2 certifications in live sound engineering and have tried with multiple headphones. I think something in the transmission/receiving isn’t happening in stereo.
0:25 According to RUclips even if you didn’t pay, if the manufacturer sent it for free you still need to called it a sponsored video. Some crap about “anything of value.”
I haven’t seen that, but I’ll look into it. I don’t believe that’s correct, but if it is I’ll update. Regardless, I always say in my videos if I get sent a product
@@ScottUhlMusic saying you received it for free to review is probably enough, however, to protect yourself from the FTC you really should also choose to disclose in the RUclips settings that the video contains sponsored products when you are first publishing the video. This will show the banner near the beginning of the video and protect you. It seems like you are decent guy with an honest review here. My point is that it’s probably better to protect yourself by giving full and complete disclosure. It doesn’t harm your credibility one bit. And also reviewing a product from a manufacture that you got for free is a sponsorship, because it’s of value to you. You get to make free content because you have an established relationship with a company. Doesn’t matter if you are doing an unbiased review or reading a script they gave you. There are more FTC rules too though. You can’t lie. You can’t say a product is good if you think it’s bad. You can’t review a product you have never tried. Here’s a RUclips video with a little more info: ruclips.net/video/upd9qAZ08PU/видео.htmlsi=ifpzwlEzGjHib-Q2
It is clear to me that the cheap,systems perform fine as long as there are no more systems operated together. But when 4 or more systems are used at the same time on other channels, then these systems are not that good at all
I’m using google translate… but if you are not able to enable your audio, there are many possibilities that could be a problem. You’ll have to be more specific.
Just wondering if anyone who has purchased the PTM10 has any issues with signal level disparity between Chanel 1 and 2 outputs when they are the same level on the inputs? My AF on the Right is always lower and requires a 5db louder signal. Also there is a lot of hiss on the outputs. I'm trying to return it to Phenyx Pro but they are yet to awknowledge that is defective.
PP is very reliable with responding to defective units and have a one year warranty on their products. So if it is defective, they will help you. “Hiss” can truly be from anywhere with IEMs. I do not get hiss in mine, and I have not noticed the 5db difference problem when using these. I’m honestly not sure why that would be happening to you. Best of luck 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic I hope PP do come through, communication was very quick but has now ceased since I have expressed that the unit is defective and its not just me changing my mind on my purchase.
Yeah it looks like it for right now it’s gone up to $350 but with the 3 receivers. As of right now, it looks like you can only buy it on Amazon with the 3 receivers... which is odd. But that usually happens when they are temporarily out of stock. Wait a week or two and see if it comes back in stock.
Glad you guys enjoyed the video! Be sure to check out my video on a $100-$120 DIY wireless IEM hack I came up with. I use this actually at my acoustic looping gigs. Check out the video here: ruclips.net/video/AoykGJRcPPw/видео.html
+1 for the "if you have a Bass Player who has no clue what they're doing" comment. That's me!! Love the review!
🤣😂
@@ScottUhlMusic Lol, how do these sound with bass guitar, wondering if your bass player uses them?
I do need to make the inear switch
My bands use this system, never once had an issue. This unit is the absolute best value option especially for stereo.
Definitely the best affordable IEM system I’ve ever used for sure
@@ScottUhlMusic your videos absolutely rock! I have been building an IEM rig for my bands and your videos have been critically helpful. Love your stuff man 🤙
Hey! how many people are in your band?
I'm still new to this, so to be sure, there are 4 of us in my band. So all 4 of us have to buy one of these in-ear systems? Can't we send different signals from one transmitter to several receivers?
Sorry it's a silly question but I'd rather ask before making a bad purchase, thank you!
@@pierrea9422 For sure, it all depends how many mixes you want. Each transmitter will transmit only 1 mix, for which you can pair several receivers by matching the frequency of the transmitter. For each member to have an independent mix, they will each need both a transmitter and receiver. Also note that if you have multiple transmitters, you will need to set a different frequency for each so they do not conflict. Out of the box they all use the same frequency and that will cause issues. Hope this helps!
Ola! Resolveram a situação de ruído no fundo? Pesquisando sobre o produto, a maioria informa que tem um ruído forte. Obrigado
Great review Scott! That’s really nice that it comes with the antenna extender and a hole on the rack mount. So many cheaper units won’t.
And thank you for testing these things out, when you can, while you’re playing live. I know it must be an inconvenience sometimes because you have your set up, probably, dialed in perfectly and then you have to test new gear. Thank you for doing that for us!
Just received my PTM-10 today so I’ll be using this video to get it going. Another home run instructional video!
Thanks Chuck! Enjoy your new IEM system 🤘
I use this system... love it! Haven't used at a gig yet... but has been great in rehearsals so far. Thanks!
It’s super solid! It’s the main one my 90%90s band mates use
My acoustic duo runs a few tracks live. Bought the PTM 11 (mono version of this) for its output. We perform sitting down. Mix goes into ptm11 into my ears and the out goes into my partners behringer p2, to his ears. Hope this helps someone.✌🏾
PTM 11 is a great option if you are good with mono to save some money 🤘
Thanks!
Thank you 🤘🤘
Thank you! Great thorough video. I just bought one for tour. Hopefully it works for me at large events with 3+ stages.
Thanks! And wireless ALL depends on the environment. I highly suggest you watch the following two videos:
Choosing the Right WIRELESS SYSTEM - A Comprehensive Guide
ruclips.net/video/Xi2JcMomjQ0/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/Xgw96rY4TAc/видео.htmlsi=fbw_QwQW_D5uHghy
Hope that helps 🤘
What a shame that the 900 MHz frequency band is not allowed to be used in Germany. This would have been an immediate purchase. Even with shipping from the US, this would be a great deal. :(
Apart from that, I really enjoy your videos. Keep up the great work!
I didn’t know 900mhz wasn’t allowed in Germany :( sorry!
@@ScottUhlMusic This whole frequency thing is just a mess around here. From what I could figure out is that everyhing from 865 MHz up to 1785 MHz is not allowed for "consumer usage". That explains why the Phenyx systems are not listed on Amazon Germany. Might be a topic for a seperate video to compare which bands are legal in different regions? Although this would be a tough topic to present in an entertaining way...
Yeah I know that some countries do not allow it. When I did a Europe tour in 2019, Germany was the only country I could not use my Sennheiser wireless in, which was interesting. Those were in 500mhz. But I believe it’s allowed now
@@ScottUhlMusic yup, the 500 MHz region is now allowed. With all the changes there over the past years, I can fully understand why companies are targetting the WiFi frequencies that much. At least you can be sure that these system won't be banned in the foreseeable future.
@@ScottUhlMusic Good news. I've been in contact with Phenyx customer service (they answered my e-mail within hours, thumbs up!) and they are offering the PTM-10 system also in a 500 MHz band version. It's listed in their own webshop but not on Amazon though. RUclips doesn't like external links in comments, so maybe add that link to the video description. This would be the safe option for Germany and Europe in general and I'll be ordering one today. :)
Great videos! I have a similar unit that I bought a couple of years ago but the received was always “noisy”. Not very noticeable on stage but still there. This system seems to have cleaner audio, is that correct? Thanks!
Yeah this one has clear audio for sure. And I’ll be honest, sometimes my Hi-end Sennheiser system gets a little of the noise you are talking about. There are so many thing that can be causing that, like an instrument that is causing the sound problem, and your ears are just getting that signal. That might be a problem because there is a lot involved with in ears. But these do sound great when I use them. Cheers!
@@ScottUhlMusic thanks for the info. I actually tried the lekato wireless following your advice and I like it although I noticed a bit of “more noise” when playing direct to audio interface and using bias plugins (vs cable). Still, I guess good enough for recoding ideas/practicing /small gig
P.S this “little bit more of noise” only happens with bias fx plug-ins though. Strangely enough I don’t notice it with other plugins like Ampire. Still, very usable sound. Keep on the great work!
@@javidavi haha yup it's just one of those things... some mystery bugs I can never figure out still haunt me to this day haha
Thanks for this. Your recommendation: This product or the XVive?
This one, unless you need the portability of the xvive
Thx for sharing, good informative video on the unit. Just a question though, I wonder if anyone has used this as a wireless extension for a zone speaker for DJ music? TIA for any inputs shared.
You technically could do that, but I would recommend something like this: ruclips.net/video/tM4ndTdGfos/видео.htmlsi=6LXUsVJmMkglxlN6
Thanks for this review Scott! Question: If I had 3 PTM-10 transmitters in the same rack, could I put a passive antenna combiner for two systems and have the third system with its independent antenna?
Yup you can do that 👍
You make the best informative and real live perfuming reviews of gear, it's so appreciated. IU have one question if I may, does this unit comply and work with the frequencies within Canada.
Thank you! :) and I believe it does, when you go to their website they give you shipping options based on your country and they ship you the correct one 👍
Very helpful Scott. Thank you. Question. When you fully pan to one (ie Left) for Mono, do you still hear a bit of the Right signal regardlesss ?
Possibly a tiny bit, but that won’t be obvious when you are performing live. Cheaper ones will have that happen sometimes.
Ok thank you Scott. Just wanted to be sure it wasn’t my ears deceiving me. Love your videos. They are immensely helpful. Just received my X32 after 6-months wait. Yay!!!
Please check on your rechargeable batteries recommendation. While looking into this option, I found that NiMH are unacceptable. The Phenyx receivers need more voltage than the typical 1.2v of a NiMH. I was told to use Li-ion AA's because they held 1.5v until they "die" and need recharging. But we've stayed with Alkalines since the Li-ion are still much more expensive, and should not be left on charge for extended periods of time (like from Sunday to Sunday). IMHO, Li-ion rechargeable batteries are just not practical for us, yet.... Otherwise, great video!
Thanks for the comment! I appreciate it. However, I have been using rechargeable batteries for years now and they have worked well for me!
@@ScottUhlMusic And that's with the Phenyx Pro PTM 10? If so, I'll try a couple NiMH and see how they work. Thanks!
Yup!
Hi Scott.
Thanks for your videos.I know nothing about wireless stuff and your videos are of huge help.
I'm working on a solo live set where I play multiple instruments and planning to go wireless.
After some research I'm between the Phenyx Pro PTM 10 and the Nux B-7 PSM. Which one do you think would fit best a one guy band setup?
Also, one last question:
Do you see any problem in using one of those monitoring systems along with two Phenyx Pro PTG-12 (guitar & bass)?
Thanks!!
PD: if I finally go with something you has provided a link for, I'll definitely use it.
I recommend this one for sure. And 3 wireless should be fine all at once, just be cautious of using too much cheap wireless all at once. That’s the biggest mistake I see from my comment section. I would watch this video: ruclips.net/video/Xgw96rY4TAc/видео.html
@@ScottUhlMusic thanks for your answer. Watch the video and asked Phenyx about it. According to them, they should play well together as they are in different frequencies. I think I would give it a try. Sounds like a good idea 😬? (On top of that, I still have to see how to amplify my acoustic cello).
Thanks again.
Awesome channel!!
I just purchased the PTM-10 Phenyx Pro w/ two recievers and I want to thank you for the recommendation! I have been playing with the wireless unit for a few days and I am noticing a drop in bass frequencies. I'm still testing out the PTM-10 before the return time has expired, but I am wondering if there is a way to increase the bass? Second question: is this common? Third: are there any other wireless IEMs that improve on this attenuation of the bass frequencies? Thanks Scott!
“Lack of bass” is almost always from the in ear monitor earbuds themselves. The earbuds give you the most of your tone. Try getting better earbuds and that should help a lot 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic Thanks for the reply. I did a test and plugged my CCA-C12 earbuds directly into the headphone jack and noticed full bass...once I switched them over to the wireless receiver the bass was brought down significantly (though not completely gone).
According to the specs, the system only goes down to 60 Hz. That cuts out the low E and B of a 5 string bass. Maybe getting a set of "bass head" IEMs known for extended sub bass would help? I just got the PTM-10 yesterday and sometimes play bass, so I'll be on the same quest. Time to hit the Head-Fi discussion board for some serious research!
Hey Scott. Love the channel! I’ve been having some serious issues with my PTM-10. My 4 piece rock/jam band has been building an In-Ear rig over the past month or so. We use a zoom l-12 board and have gotten it dialed in a wired situation. We just added the ptm-10 and have been getting some real bad noise/distortion/rattling. I understand some regular wireless hiss, but this is specifically happening with our playing. Our notes have a hiss that is dynamic to how hard our attack is. I have plugged the 1/4 directly into the unit (sounds good), plugged into another monitor send from my mixer (sounds good), but sounds terrible using the wireless. I have my gain staging on my mixer with plenty of gain on tap, and have tested the unit with a max amount of gain in and running it low. Any suggestions? Thinking of just biting the bullet and buying a more expensive unit. Thanks!
Interesting. My drummer uses his all the time without problem. Phenyx Pro is great about their warranty, so I would message them
Great vid Scott! More Zoey cameos! :)
She really does steal the show :)
Does this auto scan to find the best frequency?
This does not have scanning
@ScottUhlMusic thank you! Are you familiar with the cheapest option that does have scanning?
Check out this video I just released: ruclips.net/video/Xi2JcMomjQ0/видео.htmlsi=CJnveWuHSA_xkyVA
It’s interesting that IEMs are hard to find ones that scan, but wireless mics and guitars are easier
@@ScottUhlMusic Ill check out vid! Thx for the info!
Thank you Scott for all your videos. I have the kimafun monitors and one of the receivers just died today (only 6 months since the purchase date), so I'm looking for an upgrade. I really like stereo monitors, so this would be my better choice. Do you think this monitors are better than the xvive4? Thanks again.
These are the ones I recommend for sure. U4 is great for portability, but it’s not stereo and it’s on 2.4Ghz. I like the PTM10 better imo
Thanks Scott, love your videos, very informative. With this Phenyx PTM 10, there doesn't seem to be a way to scan, either manually or automatically. Is this a big deal breaker, or am I making too much of a fuss about not having it. Other units that you can manually choose the frequency on the receiver gives a user the option to listen for interference before turning on the transmitter (to be able to choose a clear frequency), correct? If it is a big deal, can you recommend a likewise priced stereo unit that can provide that?
That’s correct, you cannot scan with this. It’s more expensive to get IEM systems that have a scan. I go over that and my recommendations in this video: Choosing the Right WIRELESS SYSTEM - A Comprehensive Guide
ruclips.net/video/Xi2JcMomjQ0/видео.html
@@ScottUhlMusic But you can sort-of scan by turning on the receiver, select a channel, and listen for interference with the other models, correct, or am I wrong? I'm think any of these would be able to do that: Shure PSM200, Anleon S3, Galaxy AS 1100, XVive U4, Audio Technica ATW3255.
You can:
1) turn off the transmitter
2) turn on your receiver.
3) if the RF meter is showing NO bars, that means you are on a clear channel
4) if the RF meter IS showing bars, you need to change channels to find a clear channel
5) set your transmitter to the same channel as the clear channel you found
@@ScottUhlMusic That's exactly what I thought, but to be clear, you cannot do that with the Phenyx PTM 10, correct? Because you cannot select a channel on the PTM 10 receiver, correct? Thanks,
Not manually, but you can change the channel on the transmitter, sync, and that will change the channel. Then turn the transmitter off and check if the RF is better
Great content Scott, congrats! I just bought a Phenyx PTM10. It’s working good but I hear some sort of noise from time to time, like sand, kinda like static. I’ve seen other videos where it makes that sound when it’s getting very far from the transmitter but I’m trying it out very close. Any idea why is it making those sounds? Any tips on what I may be doing wrong? Thanks in advance.
Thanks! And it could be interference of some sort. Try changing channels. Sometimes it’s just “bad power” that can cause it too
@@ScottUhlMusicThanks for your response. I’m gonna try changing channels. I don’t it’s bad power thing since I tried it in our studio and it has very good electrical installations. Best regards.
Hey Scott, If you buy one of these, do you need to buy/have a mixer to set the individual mixes? Watching these I'm missing how you setup your full band mixes? If there's another video let me know! Thanks.
Yup, watch both of these videos: ruclips.net/video/Kp0tQCfxzWg/видео.htmlsi=e1HYPMgWxQG4UPh4
ruclips.net/video/XQjFhkQTVP8/видео.htmlsi=ClJKTmduRXSnqqnv
Hey Scott, can we use the RF indicador to see if a channel is crowded?
I remember you saying something about that with the Anleon S3...
Thank you
Yup 👍
Scott ! I'm leaving in Canada. What will be the best UHF choice for the Phenyx PTM-10 ? 500mhz or 900 mhz ? I'm using one NUX C-5RC and one NuX B-5RC for my guitars. Thanks !
Just make sure they are legal in your country and you’ll be good 👍
In Canada we can use both 500 and 900 . But if you have to choose between 500 and 900, what we'll be the better choice ? Phenyx offer both !
Looks like that 1/4" headphone port on the front of the transmitter can serve as line out.
Yup! Another cool feature with the IEM system
Nice review. I'm thinking of getting this. I'll be plugging from one of the headphone monitor outs (stereo 1/4 inch) on my Zoom L-12 digital mixer into this unit - so presumably I'll need a stereo 1/4 jack to 2 mono 1/4 jacks cable in order to do that. Does this unit come with that cable, or does it need to be bought separately? Thanks.
If you are getting stereo out of whatever you are sending, you can just plug into one input on the IEMs or you can get the cable you mentioned. You would need to buy that cable 👍
Which one will you recommend the Phenyx PTM10 or Galaxy Audio AS-1400?
Haven’t used the Galaxy audio ones, but I really like the PTM 10
@@ScottUhlMusic The galaxy goes for $499 one pack and transmitter. almost double the price of the PTM 10 but cant find a real review on them🤷🏽
Late to the party. You would use a TRS to TS or XLR splitter/insert cable out of an Allen Heath ME-1 Personal Mixer, which has a stereo out?
This accepts XLR or 1/4”. If you want stereo, you need to use 2 outputs from the mixer into the IEM system
@@ScottUhlMusic thanks and cool! I only have a personal monitor running on cat-5 from the monitor system, that my in ears plug into. The singers have wireless, but the band is wired. I'm trying to create a wireless system by inserting a transmitter between the personal mixer and my ear buds. I'm thinking it might work, so I'll give it a go!
Hey Scott, can I run two receivers on two different mono channels from one transmitter on this unit?
Yup! And I have a video on it: ruclips.net/video/A7Drmjn6vsQ/видео.htmlsi=uNyA0UpI_xqD_FWu
@@ScottUhlMusic DId that for years with my old Shure PSM 600 system. Two mixes per transmitter.
Hey Scott I am re watching your videos...Phenyx Pro has a version with 3 receivers and 1 transmitter...for example: I will set the transmitter sending a signal on the left for 1 receiver and the on the right the other 2 receivers, so in this case I will have independent control over my left mix but the other 2 will share the same mix correct?
Yup that’s correct 🤘
@@ScottUhlMusic thanks man!! your channel is a paradise in the middle of so much garbage ;)
Haha thank you!
can you do to separate mono mixes with this?
Yup 🤘
Hi Scott! If you had to buy this or the xvive u4. Which one would you go for?
This one 🤘
Mine is dropping out in a room where the PTM 11 is working fine. I'd love some dropout tips
It all depends on the frequency that you are on and if it’s open or not. Besides that, keep it in clear line of sight from transmitter to receiver and don’t put a bunch of wireless antennas near each other
@ I’m going to try your suggestion of checking with the transmitter off and receiver on. Also see if I can get the antenna up high. Just weird how much better the mono version works in the same place.
@ I’m making it maybe 20 feet line of sight then can get these horrendously loud pops. I have it about 9 feet off the ground now. One of the techs has rf explorer so I’ll see if he can look
Can you do the panning trick that you do for the Anleon to get two separate mixes?
You can do that on any stereo IEM system that has panning control on the body pack. So yes, on the S3 👍
Hi Scott, I'm from Argentina, I've been watching your videos and I really appreciate the material shared! What do you think of using 4 or more of these systems would it be conflictive? In my country, 500mhz is allowed and I am finding out if 900mhz is also possible, how to divide 4 teams into 500 and 4 into 900mhz (in a hypothetical case) or could they all work together in 500mhz without problems? I am also waiting for some news from Phenyx Pro about antennas and combiner for these systems, since they only have this systems for microphones. I await your answer, thank you very much
Yes, you could use 4 at once. I would space them on on the stage if you do not use an antenna combiner, and you should be fine in most situations. Using 2 on 500 and 2 on 900 is also smart!
Just recently found your channel and subscribed. Great job with all the content and appreciate the view points and candid pros and cons of the gear! Our band is venturing into the territory of wireless IEM's. Definitely interested in the PTM-10's, as I'll be funding the conversion for a four-piece band that my wife and I play in. It appears that you would recommend a couple in the 500Mhz range and a couple in the 900Mhz range if my plan was to have all four units in a rack. Is that correct? Would I still need to consider an antenna combiner if I went 2@500 & 2@900? Also looking at the CCA C-12 monitors for my wife and I as an upgrade to provided set. Thanks again for sharing your content! @@ScottUhlMusic
Great video! Quick question though. Do you know the max number of receivers that can be connected to a single transmitter?
Thanks! And I don’t know if there really is a limit to it if you wanted to share a mix 👍
Hey curious. I’m using Allen and heath CQ 18t mixer. My aux outputs are mono. Will it still give me a stereo sound or do I need to use to mono outlets into the wireless transmitter box to get stereo?
To get stereo you’ll need 2 aux outs to go into the PTM 10. One in the L and one in the R and you want to make sure those aux outs are linked in the mixer 👍
Scott, Phenyx offers two frequency options: 500 and 900. which do you recommend?
Both are great options 👍 if you have nothing in 900mhz, it’s good, just don’t put a bunch of frequencies In either frequency bandwidth with cheaper stuff
Thatnks for your quick reply!@@ScottUhlMusic
Your videos are excellent. Im new to the IEM game. Im really torn between the Phenyx ptm 10 and the Anleon S3.
Anyone have an opinion. Im a percussionist/singer
Both are great for the price. I personally prefer the PTM 10 because it’s been battle tested for so long
@ScottUhlMusic I've decided on the PTM 10 mainly because the estimated delivery date is 30 days from today and I like the fact that the PTM 10 has a case. Hope I don't get a gig out of the country though due to the bandwidth issue.
Thanks
does the body pack have a screw-on SMA antenna so you can upgrade the antenna to a better one? Thanks
No, it’s attached to the unit itself
@@ScottUhlMusic thanks I figured that because of the price
Hey Scott, this maybe a stupid question and this maybe off topic, but I wasn't sure where to ask, .. do you have any video's on setting up a mixer ? we use it for just vocals and the harp (harmonica) , but I always have a hard time setting the volume of the speakers without getting feedback, and it's always from the harp. tried moving the speakers all over the place away from the amps etc and still that high pitch feedback that drives you crazy. Any idea advise or where to go to figure it out ??
Not really for how to set up a mixer in that way. I’ve done this for in ear monitors, but not how to do compression eq and gain staging and stuff like that. I’m willing to bet there are some good videos on other channels about that though!
@@ScottUhlMusic thx for responding Scott, just thought I'd ask.. and I really like the idea of your gig set up with no visual cords on stage.. that really clean look. .. and I'm a little envious, you're playing gigs as a full time musician. Every guy's dream. I'm just a wannabe.. lol .. rock on
Haha my obsession with a clean stage has cost a pretty penny! Lol. Now I have the backing tracks rig though which has the iPad on my mic stand, so it’s not completely clean anymore 🥺 Someday!! 😅
Hey! I finally got it...
I don't know whether I'm doing something wrong, but feeling a bit disappointed atm.
The volume is too low, it is being super noisy and the sound quality is quite bad.
Every time I move one step in any direction it makes noises...
I tried to follow the steps in the manual, but might be missing something (I hope).
Any advice?
Thanks!
“Super noisy” can come from a lot of things. You could have a defective unit, if so it’s under warranty. Or you could have it configured poorly or something else is sending noise. I would do an elimination process to try to solve the issue. I know that mine works extremely well, and my drummer uses his at every single gig and it works great.
@@ScottUhlMusic Hi there.
Coming back to share some updates on this. Hope it is helpful.
I bought two PTG-12 and one PTM-10A. One of the PTG-12 and the bodypack of the PTM-10A were not working properly. I contacted support and they answered right away. After having sent a video with my setup they told me they would send the replacement for the faulty items. They've just arrived...
The new PTG-12 seems to be ok. The PTM-10A is not as noisy as before, but the sound quality is pretty bad. I'm in conversation with support again but nothing they suggest seems to improve the situation, so I'm going to return the PTM-10A.
I noticed that these are out of stock on Amazon and their website has Phenyx Pro PTM-10A. Do you know if that's an updated model or what the "A" is? I also noticed it lets you choose a frequency range. Thanks!
I believe A is the same as this one, so that should be good 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic thank you sir! Loving your videos 🤘😜
Have you run this through aux sends? I have this coming out of aux 4 and in to PTM-10 left input. Sound is coming from my phone blue toothing to an alto Bluetooth device into channel 12 on my UI16 and don’t get any signal (I think). Works fine when I use a powered speaker. Am I doing something obviously or ridiculously wrong?
Thanks
Aux 4 of what? A mixer? I’m confused as to how you are routing it. Make sure the channels are set the same, and whatever you send into it, the transmitter/receiver should get the signal
@@ScottUhlMusic Yes it’s my Soundcraft UI16 mixer. You’re probably correct on the routing and my description is obviously flawed. I’d better just keep experimenting and see if I can get it to work.
Thanks
@@ScottUhlMusicDude I got it! After contacting Phenyx Pro for their advice; I went back at it and all it took was turning things up on my mixer! All of a sudden I was getting signal (visual) to the transmitter and sound through the receiver! Sounded really good, too.
Thanks for your help.
The "HISS" IEM
I'm on the second unit of this model, the first one stopped working and they sent me a new unit, the second unit works, but it has a lot of noise (hiss), it's not just noise floor, but when playing the bass, each note comes accompanied by noise (hiss), I started to notice this more and more after reading some comments on the internet, but I must admit that playing on stage I end up ignoring this noise, in the end I just need to have a sound reference just to guide me along with other musicians, and not sound quality to evaluate how my instrument sounds, that's the basics to me.
This is a known issue with this model
Interesting… I’ve used this without that issue, and my drummer used his for maybe 2 years without a problem. My singer still uses his model to this day without issue as well
@@ScottUhlMusic In fact, I noticed that this noise happens mainly on bass guitar (Im Bassist), but if I play a drum track for example, the noise is barely noticeable, if I play bass along with a drum track it seems that the noise is masked and completely acceptable. I will try to record a video demonstrating this and let you know here.
I believe in you anyway , thanks for the video and feedback
@@kabassa interesting… thanks for commenting! That makes sense if the other members don’t notice it
@@ScottUhlMusic short video:, bass vs drums (hiss) on Ptm10
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@@ScottUhlMusic short video: ptm10 hiss - bass vs drums
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I am among the Xtuga vs Phenyx ptm-10, leaving aside the price difference, what do you think is the best option?
I’ve only used the PP one out of those two, and I highly recommend them 👍
Scott, I purchased the 900mhz but they sent me the 500mhz. There was a constant noise floor that was pretty loud no matter what frequency was chosen. In comparison, my Audio-Technica is dead quiet. Did you notice any noise during your experience?
I did not personally notice that
Got a 500 mhz one as well, and it hisses a bit. Just got it, so I haven't tested it with out mixer or manually scanned for frequencies yet.
Did you find out what was the problem @skullstjohn ?
@@SteinarLundemo I had it routed wrong in the mixer. It's fine now, very little noise.
@@skullstjohn Routed wrong? What do you mean with that? Too hot? (And thanks for the answer :) )
Is it possible to run your left input from one aux out and the right input to another aux out, and then pan each receiver far left and the other far right so that you can have two different mixes with one transmitter?
I actually did a video on this here: ruclips.net/video/A7Drmjn6vsQ/видео.html
@@ScottUhlMusic Thanks for sharing that! I was looking at another set, and your info helped a bunch... Thanks again man, I appreciate it.
Since there's no auto-scan feature for finding a clear channel, is there a way to tell if a channel you've manually selected is relatively clear? Other than just picking one and seeing if it drops out :D
You can use a RF scanner or something like that. Without having a scan feature on any wireless, you kind of do just have to guess and check if you don’t have any sort of way to scan
I’m Currently using a Behringer P1 for my IEMs. In mono mode I have a click/cue signal in my left ear and my IEM mix in my right ear.
It’s it possible to do the same thing with this system?
Also is it hard to switch from mono to stereo on the receiver? Is it possible to switch back and forth quickly on stage?
Yup you can do that with this system 👍 and it’s fairly quick to do that. Shouldn’t take more than a few seconds
@@ScottUhlMusic Thanks for the answer. My whole band loves your channel. We’ve bought a few items based off of your reviews. Your IEM series changed our lives.
Awesome! Thanks, and I’m glad to hear that 😊 And yeah, IEMs are one of the best things you can do and probably the best investment I’ve ever made as a musician 🤘
(hi again) Since you seem to be into wireless...any thoughts about this unit vs. an Xvive U4?
I have a friend who has a U4 and while it’s obviously more compact, it only has 1 input and it’s on 2.4ghz as opposed to this which is on 900mhz. I would definitely go with this one.
Is this true stereo in that you can use 2 receivers in mono with separate mixes and panned separately?
Yup! I go over the steps in this video: ruclips.net/video/A7Drmjn6vsQ/видео.html
Finally got one of these and I’m having a problem with hissing/static when audio goes over the wireless. When I’m plugged straight into the headphone jack it’s fine. But when using the body pack and I talk into a microphone or play a bass guitar, I hear an annoying hiss. I tested it against a diy monitor setup like you detailed in another video (Phenyx pro ptg-12 wireless guitar system plugged into donner em2 headphone amp) and the diy solution sounds fine… I’ve tested a bunch of different gains/volumes and I’m about to give up and talk to support. Ever heard of this issue?
Interesting… I have not heard of that problem with these. You could try another channel. It could be a problem with the unit as well and they have a great warranty on their products. But even my expensive IEMs get a little hiss sometimes. I don’t know enough about it to answer why, but occasionally it happens with my Sennheiser IEM system too. Try different rooms/outlets as well
@@ScottUhlMusic I’ve tried it in different places and used different frequencies. I need to try a few more though to see if there’s any difference at all. As always, appreciate your reply! :)
@@ScottUhlMusic this is apparently what I’m hearing: “Wireless mics operate at very low RF transmit power levels (typically 5 to 50 mW) and as a result the audio signal to noise ratio is not very high. Analog wireless mics use “companding” to improve the apparent S/N by compressing the signal in the transmitter to reduce its dynamic range, and then doing a precisely matched expansion of the signal in the receiver. This does not actually improve the S/N, but it fools the ear into thinking the S/N is better.” That’s why I’m hearing noise only when there’s sound going through.
Someone told me they had a similar issue and it was a bad antenna. I’ll keep you posted!
Interesting… maybe I need to learn more about this if I’m gonna have a music tech channel lol! I mostly just review gear if it sounds good or works well, and don’t go into details. So I should probably learn :) thanks for the comment
@@ScottUhlMusic Update on this: Phenyx Pro told me that this is normal behavior. There’s static when just one person is playing or singing (bass guitar is the worst), but it gets mostly better when everyone is playing. They explained its because there is noise inherent to the system over a wide range of audio frequencies. When everything is playing, more of the noise gets covered up vs just a bass guitar playing. I still hear static some when our male vocalist is singing (especially with S’s and plosives). You didn’t notice this at all on yours? I did find some other reviews on Amazon that said they had they same issue. Some returned it. Perhaps Phenyx has allowed some tolerance in the performance in this regard?
I bought a PTM-10, but I got a big problem: there are a high background noise in the earbuds. Some kind of background sound does all systems like this have, but this is a lot higher than my old Shure 200 (which is completely silent). The noise is the same if there are sound into the sender or not, and it is the same if the sender is turn off or on. NB! This was the Phenyx Pro PTM-10 in the 500MHz series, - all tests are of 900MHz. The noise was so loud that I returned it. I got the money back, but not the expenses for transport and taxes which are almost 300 USD. I don't get an answer from Phenyx if they find something wrong with the system I returned, or if it is supposed to be so noisy. If there is an error in the system they sent me, they should pay the transport costs. If there is going to be that much noise, other customers need to know before they buy. I do not recommend anyone to buy the Phenyx Pro PTM-10 500MHz or buy anything from this company that does not cover the expenses a customer has when the system they send have errors.
I just used the PTM-10 yesterday and I didn’t have this problem. My drummer also uses it as his main IEM rig too. There are countless possibilities on what could be causing noise. It could have been a faulty unit, or it could have been a ground loop, dirty power, a bad frequency, etc. I hope that you did change to another channel to see if that gave you a better signal. I still stand by this product and I do highly recommend it for musicians on a budget. It’s worked very well over the years for me and my band mates 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic I tried everything, the Phenyex company gave me a lomng list of tings to test and try. But the noice was impossible to remove. Do you have the 500MHz system?
Mine is in the 900mhz system. 500mhz is extremely reliable though. Some gear just doesn’t work with specific setups based on the wireless environment, how much wireless is on stage and other things. It’s a bummer it didn’t work for you, and I know how frustrating that can be. I’m just saying that my drummer and my singer gig with these at every single show we do (around 60 a shows a year with just that band alone), and it works really well for them.
I got a similar experience with the 500MHz and came here to see if there was a solution, but not. For me it is useless, I was just now playing a soft pad with my synth and the noise went mad. I play with a click and an otherwise clean wooden sound sounds like a snare with brushes. The good thing is support was very responsive and they are gonna refund the money.
What would you recommend for any stereo wireless system for a little more than this price ?(like a mid priced option)
The next price level up is around $800 for the Shure PSM300s, or $1000 for the Sennheiser EW 300 IEM's. Both are great systems, but are definitely a lot more expensive than this one. I'm honestly not familiar if there are ones around $400-$500 or so unless you get them used.
Question have you tried them at a show now 2023?
Yup, they work great. This is still my drummers main IEM setup and it works flawlessly at every show
In mono mode, can I get a click in one hear and my monitor mix in the other hear? I am currently using the Behringer P2 with the click track inputting into one channel and the mix in the other ear. I was hoping to do the same with this system.
Yes you can do that with this system 👍
@@ScottUhlMusichow do you do that? I'm a bass player with no idea of what I am doing 🤣
Can 2 separate mono monitor mixes be used so that the transmitter sends out Stereo, but each receiver can just choose one of those sides to have their own monitor mix? In other words can this one unit with 2 receivers be used for 2 separate monitors? I imagine the receivers can be panned completely Left or Right, but then do you only have sound from one Earpiece? Thanks for the detail!
I actually did a video on this exact topic as well. You can watch it here: ruclips.net/video/A7Drmjn6vsQ/видео.html
Do you know how much rack space these take up?
1/2u rack space 👍
I ended up buying this system and always get a ton of noise from the receiver, even if I change the group/channel. I'm a total wireless newbie so I'm not quite sure what could be causing this. I've run audio to it from the aux out of a Presonus 32R, a Focusrite interface, and directly from my laptop headphone jack. Monitoring a single instrument, recorded music via spotify, and both at the same time... still lot's of noise. Any ideas what could be causing it?
“Noise” is quite a broad term, so I’m not sure what you mean. Make sure the antenna is connected properly and there is clear line of sight from transmitter to the receiver. Also check the cables. Also check to make sure the signal going in is not too loud or too quiet
Maybe "snow" is a better term? A subtle white noise that is consistent regardless of volume, input, or channel. The quality of the sound from the body pack seems pretty good, but the underlying noise is very distracting, even with a lot of instruments or tracks playing through the iem. I haven't brought it to a gig so maybe it would be less noticeable there, but it's pretty distracting. I'm going to assume this is the price of "budget" but on the off chance it is a manufacturing defect or setting, I figured I'd ask.
Which one do you think is better this one or Galaxy Audio?
This one for sure
@@ScottUhlMusic thanks man!
So i am pretty new to the IEM world and was gunna grab these as a starter for a little while. I noticed they have a 900MHz range and 500MHz was wondering which one is the best frequency to work with? or if it really matters.
Is it this model that's in 500mhz? I haven't seen that, I've only seen 900mhz for these. If you get a choice, I would go with 500mhz, but 900mhz is completely fine as well
@@ScottUhlMusic yep same model. If you go to their website I clicked on the 3 reciever model but they have singles as well with the option of 555 to 575MHz or the 902 to 928MHz. But both are listed as the PTM-10
@@justinlaw5217 Interesting. yeah I see what you mean. They don't seem to have that option on amazon. At least I didn't see it. Again, either one would be fine. I usually prefer 500mhz, but whichever one should work great!
The 500MHz is for the European market because the radio frequency requirements there are different from the ones in the US. 900MHz is what they sell on the US market.
It can scan frequencies..
This one does not have a scan feature
Hey, could you finally try it on the stage, how was it??
It’s great! My drummer and singer bought one. I’ve used this multiple times for traveling as well. Works awesome!
@@ScottUhlMusic thank you. I bought the Lekato wireless that you mentioned in other videos, and woow, fantastic. Thanks for your content
Thanks!
Hi Scott, thank you for the review.
Do you still use it? Is it worth it 1 year later after your video. Thank you!!
Absolutely still worth it! My drummer bought one, my singer bought one, i still use it for travel gigs… definitely still worth it!
@@ScottUhlMusic Thak you!
Just have bought one and tried the next day. After pairing to transmitter my receiver looses connection in a couple minutes and shows «Mute». It pairs to transmitter properly and shows the same group, channel and frequency but keeps showing «Mute» and doesn't get any signal. What could be the problem with? Anyone encountered this problem?
Could be that you are getting interference on that channel. Thats likely what’s causing it
@@ScottUhlMusic I've tried many different channels. Why then another receiver that I've tried works perfectly with my transmitter?
Phenyx Pro 10 or Sennheiser ew300 g2?
Sennheiser IEM will have way more channels. I actually recommend both in my wireless tiers videos here: Choosing the Right WIRELESS SYSTEM - A Comprehensive Guide
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Its not in amazon... Any idea about where can we buy it in Europe?
Follow the link I have in the description and use the code SCOTTUHLMUSIC at checkout to get 5% off 😁
For some reason the "Additional Headphone out" Isnt working for us, The packs have signal but the wired has no signals
Oh weird… might just be that is broken on the system
What s better??
This pheonyx or anleon s3?
I haven’t used the Anleon but I would say Phenyx pro just from what I’ve seen
@@ScottUhlMusic Thank you for your response.
@@ScottUhlMusic Do you choose this option over the xvive u4?
Srry for question!
@@GuArYtO This one is more reliable than the XVive but the XVive is more portable. It depends on which is more important to you. More reliability, this one. More portability, Xvive.
Hey Scott. Could I do the pan/two separate mixes with one transmitter thing you mentioned in your other Iem vid with this system since it’s stereo?
Yup that’s correct. You can send 1 stereo signal to 1 receiver or 2 mono signals to 2 different receivers with this one. I did a video with the steps on how to do that here: ruclips.net/video/A7Drmjn6vsQ/видео.html
Do you plug this unit into the stereo out on the mixer?
Yes. Whatever is sending you the audio will plug into the IEMs. If you watch my Beginners Guide to IEMs, that will help: ruclips.net/video/Kp0tQCfxzWg/видео.html
@@ScottUhlMusic Awesome :) TY
Very promising but I would like to see this product in a different frequency. In the Netherlands, (a lot of other European countries) it is not allowed to transmit on this frequency.
Can you do me a favor, can you look it up on Amazon in your country? Some companies have different frequency options based on the country you are in. I’m just curious if they did that with this one…
@@ScottUhlMusic It's not available over here on Amazon. (the Netherlands) The frequency is forbidden.
Gotcha. Thanks for letting me know.
what kind of red cable is that
It’s just a cable I had lying around. It’s a splitter from 3.5mm to 2 TRS
Q: can I use rechargeable lithium batteries with this?
You can use rechargeable AAs with it
@@ScottUhlMusic ok I bought rechargeable lithium AA batteries thanks!
Are you hearing any slight hiss when there's no audio playing?
I do not hear the slight hiss if you set the gain properly. If the volume is up too high on your ears you will get a hiss, even on my nice sennheiser IEMs I get that. But no, there isn’t hiss with this unit
I just got this system and am experiencing the same hiss. Did you ever figure it out?
I’ve been using 3 transmitters and 5 receivers for my band for a little over a year now. I thought my mixer was broken because there’s no stereo to these at all from the receivers. The headphone jack on the transmitter is stereo though. I followed your setup, and tried everything, but no stereo to my IEMs. Not on any of the 3 different frequencies we use or on any of the 5 receivers. Has anyone gotten stereo from the receivers?
And, I have 2 certifications in live sound engineering and have tried with multiple headphones. I think something in the transmission/receiving isn’t happening in stereo.
These should be in stereo. Although I almost always use them in mono personally, so I do not know why
0:25 According to RUclips even if you didn’t pay, if the manufacturer sent it for free you still need to called it a sponsored video. Some crap about “anything of value.”
I haven’t seen that, but I’ll look into it. I don’t believe that’s correct, but if it is I’ll update. Regardless, I always say in my videos if I get sent a product
@@ScottUhlMusic saying you received it for free to review is probably enough, however, to protect yourself from the FTC you really should also choose to disclose in the RUclips settings that the video contains sponsored products when you are first publishing the video. This will show the banner near the beginning of the video and protect you. It seems like you are decent guy with an honest review here.
My point is that it’s probably better to protect yourself by giving full and complete disclosure. It doesn’t harm your credibility one bit. And also reviewing a product from a manufacture that you got for free is a sponsorship, because it’s of value to you. You get to make free content because you have an established relationship with a company. Doesn’t matter if you are doing an unbiased review or reading a script they gave you.
There are more FTC rules too though. You can’t lie. You can’t say a product is good if you think it’s bad. You can’t review a product you have never tried.
Here’s a RUclips video with a little more info:
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It is clear to me that the cheap,systems perform fine as long as there are no more systems operated together. But when 4 or more systems are used at the same time on other channels, then these systems are not that good at all
That is how almost ALL wireless works actually. In order to use more wireless you need the more expensive ones
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Não consigo habilitar o áudio do meu
I’m using google translate… but if you are not able to enable your audio, there are many possibilities that could be a problem. You’ll have to be more specific.
@@ScottUhlMusic I can't unmute the bodypack the frequencies are even correct but the bodypack led doesn't turn green
Have you tried that on multiple frequencies? If so, it might just be a bad unit… or your earbuds are broken. That’s always possible as well
Just wondering if anyone who has purchased the PTM10 has any issues with signal level disparity between Chanel 1 and 2 outputs when they are the same level on the inputs? My AF on the Right is always lower and requires a 5db louder signal. Also there is a lot of hiss on the outputs. I'm trying to return it to Phenyx Pro but they are yet to awknowledge that is defective.
PP is very reliable with responding to defective units and have a one year warranty on their products. So if it is defective, they will help you.
“Hiss” can truly be from anywhere with IEMs. I do not get hiss in mine, and I have not noticed the 5db difference problem when using these. I’m honestly not sure why that would be happening to you. Best of luck 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic I hope PP do come through, communication was very quick but has now ceased since I have expressed that the unit is defective and its not just me changing my mind on my purchase.
Why dig on the bass player? The humanity...
Hahaha from experience 😅
Came here to say the same. Hahahaha. 💪
Bassist here. In my experience, it's the drummist that can't even spell "IEM"!!🤣
I know right? I'm gonna watch but not hitting the Like.. lol
They're out of stock. And I think the price went up by $100
Yeah it looks like it for right now it’s gone up to $350 but with the 3 receivers. As of right now, it looks like you can only buy it on Amazon with the 3 receivers... which is odd. But that usually happens when they are temporarily out of stock. Wait a week or two and see if it comes back in stock.
Thumbs down for that bass player jab
Still worth it 😎
@@ScottUhlMusic I was gonna say something too... lol
@@uncledutchie Scroll up.
@@ScottUhlMusic Nick Cage meme Totally worth it.