The longbow used to be the KING of guns back in the first year of Apex Legends, but it's definitely fallen off since then. I think the biggest nerf was the sniper ammo change where you can only carry 24 rounds per stack, as the Longbow used to be heavy. The fire rate and the overall DPS holds it back as well. Also, I think overall the power level of guns have just surpassed the longbow at this point, and there are just better alternatives (G7, looking at you) While it's not the best gun, we'll try to take the longbow out for a spin and make it "work" for this video
They changed Horizon's base finisher. They added an animation of her inspecting the lift right before she puts it in your face. I guess they thought it was a little too fast.
i think that's the inherent problem with Snipers, literally any other scope than the sniper badge makes them better. the snipers should all have bullet speeds on par with the TT, they are worse at range than most of the other weapons in the game.
@@nicbuzas7783 yeah 301 with the anvil beats it, the bullet speeds and damage per shot are just too low to be viable and with it being a) none meta b) a whole diffrent ammo type and attachment type you don’t find anything for your snipers late game
Idea to change lifeline: Keep her auto res the same but make the shield protecting the player breakable And the shields strength is based on their knockdown shield (So grey would only protect a couple shots while gold may need a lot of damage) This can give knockdown shield more use and can maybe change lifeline for the better
Good idea but I don't think it would work. Even with a 200 health grey shield,lifeline would obviously be nearby, and wasting an entire mag for the shield of a downed player would be your death since lifeline could just shoot you. Could work if you have multiple people shooting at the shield tho.
no idea yeah , but theoretically if they implemented this they would probably adjust it to make it better like gray absorbing 50, blue absorbing 100-110 , etc
There was a leak recently saying a new class of weapons will be added next season and it is Marksman rifles and I believe it because I recently was playing with Bangalore and you know when you ping stuff as her that she explains what things are and the 30-30 I pinged she called it “a classic marksman rifle”
The G7 and 30-30 should be able to use sniper scopes! Before anyone says "No! It'll just replace actual snipers!" Their bullet velocity and drop off damage will never compete with the triple take nor charge rifle. The longbow? That gun is shit anyway.
They should revert the Longbow back to its old, faster fire rate to make up for its measly damage compared to the other snipers. The only thing that made it OP was how fast you can fire it and never have it run out of ammo because it used to use heavy ammo lol
Longbow used to be THE sniper rifle back in the early Season 0 days, like to the point where if I had a fully kitted Longbow I wouldn't swap it for a Kraber. Now I only use it if I have to cross out a challenge or something like that. Triple Take ftw.
They joked about Caustic disappearing but what if in the future, a Legend actually disappeared? Or died. I remember Kandy talking about this one game where the players had input in what happened to certain characters.
Cool in concept. Really bad in practice. If characters actually get rid of, then characters nobody really plays or likes will just die. Wraith, Rampart, Revenant, Caustic... It’d suck for the people who main them.
Man, videos like yours make me happy. I've been flamed so much recently in game. After 500 hours, this is the first time I have muted people over consecutive days from toxicity. Really breaks my heart seeing how much it's been recently. Thank you for just being such a positive youtuber❤️
so funny thing, there's a video way back in mid 2020 that shows the longbow's bullet velocity as pretty much half of that of the triple take and sentinel. today i tested it myself, and it's massively different; it's pretty much up there now, just a bit slower than the triple take. idk when this change happened and it's not listed in the patch notes section for the longbow on the wiki
Needs sniper ammo, a barrell mod, sniper mag, a hopup, a sniper stock and a scope all to be viable. Just no. Snipers are far from meta but at least Triple take hits harder, is way more versatile and hardly needs any extras to be viable, other than scope.
Right now it is easy to find 10-12 rounds. With good placement I can keep easier teams occupied at a distance because of the rate of fire/capacity while my teammates flank. All other rifles hit harder and are probably better which will help with kills but the long bow has some satisfying cover fire capabilities. You can find a gold variant at the caustic drop in the tanks at king's canyon sometimes.
The Longbow is extremely good as a support gun for the whole Team. Before a 3rd party goes down, make them even weaker with the Longbow and during that time, the two other team members can push forward.
I actually pick up the longbow quite often, the biggest problem with its is its low damage especially if you have potato aim like me and can't hit head-shots, for a sniper its too spamy, and that's where the ammo cap comes to play for me, it's definitely enjoyable, but it needs more love
I think they should buff the ammo carried by 8 (32 for stack), because Charge Rifle uses more ammo in 1 shot, also Triple Take and Longbow have a pretty high fire-rate for a sniper. The only weapon that doesn't really needs lots of sniper ammo is the Sentinel.
I’ve won two recent games with the longbow being the gun that got me a final kill. One a Loba won a battle and made the mistake of trying to loot and I got a headshot. The other a bloodhound ran out of ammo and I got lucky.
I use snipers a lot and yesterday I looted like 8 death boxes and they all had snipers/sniper stuff in them. I asked apex gods for a 4x8 scope, killed a solo and she was carrying a full sniper set with a 4x8
So I wanna go out and say my own opinion on the longbow. I love the longbow, I only use The Times 2 bruiser scope on it.I've noticed that if your moving or strafing while using the gun the bullets don't really hit very well so before I take a shot I stay still for a seconds and that seems to help with the bullet hitting its target for me at longer distances. Skull piercer like hella necessary if you wanna use endgame tho
So Macro may have been mememing in the beginning of the video or maybe it was genuine, but I agree with the introduction of sniper ammo being a mistake. If I recall correctly Staycation once made a video about how the ammo types had bullet effects and the heavy ammo bullet effect was that it slowed enemies. For the longbow I would argue that makes a big difference especially taking into account that Boom said he thinks the bullet speed is also an issue. If enemies are slowed then the bullet speed becomes a bit less of an issue. All of those variables would explain why the Longbow was strong back when it was a Heavy weapon and why it feels weaker now. Especially when the other snipers also deal more damage.
The longbow used to be the KING of guns back in the first year of Apex Legends, but it's definitely fallen off since then. I think the biggest nerf was the sniper ammo change where you can only carry 24 rounds per stack, as the Longbow used to be heavy. The fire rate and the overall DPS holds it back as well. Also, I think overall the power level of guns have just surpassed the longbow at this point, and there are just better alternatives (G7, looking at you) While it's not the best gun, we'll try to take the longbow out for a spin and make it "work" for this video
Yes
Kandy, will you indoctrinate your son to use the 30-30 to annoy boom for another lifetime?
Just wondering
Yes I agree, but longbow is still good. The 30-30 is simply built differently though I kinda like it.
GarvyGreg I didn't like it at first but it's kinda like a beginner when wingman that's easier to use
Like a long range wingman
I think a buff in firerate would help this gun a lot
"there's a team on me, some sort of... gas based character"
"interesting, I don't recall there being a gas based character"
Hey Kandyrew u might not see this but I love your vids and I just want to let you know you have great content and I wish you the best of luck!💖✨
Bruh
Stinky boi
Rip Caustic dead and forgotten /j
He went from toxic gas to axe body spray
Can we just appreciate Booms reaction to the Horizon killing him in 'the bridge'. That made me giggle out loud
What gets me is that all the terminology he used was correct, the horizon came from the left side front of the ship
I apricot that very much.
@@archangelthefallen1 ye
Macro is literally the little brother that the older brother has to take outside with them
19:11 yo that man just styled all over you
the guy that did a normal jump shot?
@@tobe4348 it was CINEMATIC
lol
A clean jump shot, even if normal, is still stylish 😎
They changed Horizon's base finisher. They added an animation of her inspecting the lift right before she puts it in your face. I guess they thought it was a little too fast.
Yeah, it was the fastest in the game by like .30 seconds
Kandy: This is a longbow video.
Also Kandy: Actually this is an arc-star video
"You're like batman!"
*awkward silence...*
"Let's just get this over with..."
really have to respect Kandy's commitment for making these videos. He spent 2 weeks practicing the long bow for this video, I truly feel your pain.
Just finished a bag of chips while watching one of your vids then you upload this video gotta go buy another bag :)
Yeah man!
Dude me too I finished a blue doritos
Which chips did you get it you don’t mind me asking?
Have yall ever seen the blue takis?
Try veggie straws
I love all the bits they do while they play it just makes the videos so fun to watch
This video is just constant jokes from Boom and Kandy calling back to old 90’s movies using any sort of sniper trope, and I frickin’ love it
Longbow + 3x = happiness
i think that's the inherent problem with Snipers, literally any other scope than the sniper badge makes them better. the snipers should all have bullet speeds on par with the TT, they are worse at range than most of the other weapons in the game.
@@nicbuzas7783 yeah 301 with the anvil beats it, the bullet speeds and damage per shot are just too low to be viable and with it being a) none meta b) a whole diffrent ammo type and attachment type you don’t find anything for your snipers late game
Meanwhile your pfp show absolute despair and pain
@@LsdGotMeLoopy snipers are the new meta, idk wym. Ever since Mastiff got nerfed we've seen much more snipers being used.
Longbow is one of my favorite weapons
“Ok says the guy making and LStar video” lmfao I was weak😂
2:14 Boom never fails to crack me up 😂
"Would you say that you're a longBRO?"
XD
no, but i am alonebro ;(
Nah I'm a shortBRO
2:24 favourite part of the video. The panic in booms voice xD
love how the vid is opened with you talking about how you need longbow footage
Idea to change lifeline:
Keep her auto res the same but make the shield protecting the player breakable
And the shields strength is based on their knockdown shield
(So grey would only protect a couple shots while gold may need a lot of damage)
This can give knockdown shield more use and can maybe change lifeline for the better
Good idea ngl
Good idea but I don't think it would work. Even with a 200 health grey shield,lifeline would obviously be nearby, and wasting an entire mag for the shield of a downed player would be your death since lifeline could just shoot you. Could work if you have multiple people shooting at the shield tho.
@@noidea2338 they could make it 50 or 75 instead of 200
no idea yeah , but theoretically if they implemented this they would probably adjust it to make it better like gray absorbing 50, blue absorbing 100-110 , etc
@@Sam-oc6vd I don't really know. Lifeline is in a weird spot because she is weak but strong. Hard to balance
I remember when u announced that you were a dad now he’s turning 1, that’s CRAZY
"they're pushing port side bow" "they've taken the bridge" so glad im not the only one calling it like this
Normal people: carrying one or two grenades
Kandy: yes
Longbow, G7, and the 30-30 need to be marksman rifles.
Yeah new class with new ammo
There was a leak recently saying a new class of weapons will be added next season and it is Marksman rifles and I believe it because I recently was playing with Bangalore and you know when you ping stuff as her that she explains what things are and the 30-30 I pinged she called it “a classic marksman rifle”
The G7 and 30-30 should be able to use sniper scopes!
Before anyone says "No! It'll just replace actual snipers!" Their bullet velocity and drop off damage will never compete with the triple take nor charge rifle. The longbow? That gun is shit anyway.
@@codyjames3416
G7 used to hold sniper optic in s3
But was changed cuz with double tap it became op and alot of players used it as an Ar than sniper
@@codyjames3416 they used to be able to but one pro player made them nerf scopes on g7
“He relied too much on the gas”
Me a caustic main confused because caustic’s whole kit is based around his gas
They should revert the Longbow back to its old, faster fire rate to make up for its measly damage compared to the other snipers. The only thing that made it OP was how fast you can fire it and never have it run out of ammo because it used to use heavy ammo lol
Longbow used to be THE sniper rifle back in the early Season 0 days, like to the point where if I had a fully kitted Longbow I wouldn't swap it for a Kraber. Now I only use it if I have to cross out a challenge or something like that. Triple Take ftw.
"Cup your hands, Macro!" I died, this was too good!
They joked about Caustic disappearing but what if in the future, a Legend actually disappeared? Or died. I remember Kandy talking about this one game where the players had input in what happened to certain characters.
Cool in concept. Really bad in practice. If characters actually get rid of, then characters nobody really plays or likes will just die. Wraith, Rampart, Revenant, Caustic... It’d suck for the people who main them.
@@cherrysoda4462 You're probably right. But that's just the current meta of this season. I'm sure changes will be made to them soon enough
9:18 is my friends and me trying to play any game, "incomprehensible screaming"
11:10 mans released his inner justin roiland impression.
19:08 til kandy is down is just an epic movie scene
Man, videos like yours make me happy. I've been flamed so much recently in game. After 500 hours, this is the first time I have muted people over consecutive days from toxicity. Really breaks my heart seeing how much it's been recently. Thank you for just being such a positive youtuber❤️
14:47 "The skies are mine now"... Did he know something we didn't?!
I've known about the doc/trident thing since season 7 started and im glad you discovered it kandy
great day to spot me and my friends getting absolutely annihilated at 0:47
24:03 Macro: How the hell did Boom die?
23:43 (Look at that Bloodhound)
Longbow is most underrated gun in Apex
Nah 30-30 is, if you can aim that gun is seriously lethal
The longbow isnt bad but the ammo stack needs to be buffed
Watching this video at the time of season 21 and seeing the triple take with a 4-8x scope, sniper ammo, and no hopup attatchment slot is insane to me!
I fuckin cracked up when kandy said "I just asserted my dominance..... his teammates are gonna follow me now" LMAO!!!
The longbow made me win a game today, almost gave me 2k damage with the gun alone
I have never seen a team miss as many bullets as the ones you play against. Damn, they make people look bad.
2:50 that poor poor rampart...
so funny thing, there's a video way back in mid 2020 that shows the longbow's bullet velocity as pretty much half of that of the triple take and sentinel. today i tested it myself, and it's massively different; it's pretty much up there now, just a bit slower than the triple take. idk when this change happened and it's not listed in the patch notes section for the longbow on the wiki
I started using the longbow recently too, one headshot equals them hiding behind cover, one nade after that is glories
I love the conversations and jokes you all make, it’s heart warming and hilarious :)
I think I am one of the few who liked the "Bat-man" joke. I love it its amazing
Forsure my favorite video you've put out yet. Gameplay was great and I was laughing the entire time, this was gold
9:20 so that’s where L-Star the song was filmed
Needs sniper ammo, a barrell mod, sniper mag, a hopup, a sniper stock and a scope all to be viable. Just no. Snipers are far from meta but at least Triple take hits harder, is way more versatile and hardly needs any extras to be viable, other than scope.
voodoo one
kandys on station
the longbow belongs to me
nowhere to run
nowhere to hide
“Snipings a good job mate, guaranteed you won’t go hungry,” - The Sniper, TF2
9:20 was in the L-star parody omg xD
"They're sniping us! I only have an R99 and a P2020"
I felt that. I'm almost always using the RE45 and Mozambique. lul
So the video is over and im still cracking up at the, "port side bow, meet me in the captains room, thier taking the bridge" lmao y was that so funny
3:26 U had the perfect chance for the longbow and in my opinion its pretty op
dude the vibes with this trio is awesome
oh man, their movie impressions, they get me in the soul, every single time
As the great ThatPunchKid would say: 'Longboner'
been with kandy since his overwatch days and im just really proud of him for making it this far
9:25 I think that's the clip from macros L-Star parody, where he says "get a stick in, win games"
I wish I had wholesome friends to play with like candy does
9:16:
The part in macro’s Lstar cid where he gets an arc star stick
11:22 if this is gonna be adult humour then I’m scared for myself
I'm personally not good with the Longbow but to see pure gold content with it is satisfying.
Right now it is easy to find 10-12 rounds. With good placement I can keep easier teams occupied at a distance because of the rate of fire/capacity while my teammates flank. All other rifles hit harder and are probably better which will help with kills but the long bow has some satisfying cover fire capabilities. You can find a gold variant at the caustic drop in the tanks at king's canyon sometimes.
You and boom need to honestly direct a movie like if you agree
Yes it would be so funny lol. They have a perfect personality duo
So we just gonna sleep in the terrible sad joke around 5:10 lmao thanks kandy for being the cool dad of apex legends
The Lifeline bot reaches you from the back of the vehicle. They advertised you could do that when they introduced the Tridents
Hey kandy! I love your content and I hope you keep entertaining for years to come
Longbow became pretty much irrelevant once Sniper Ammo was introduced, and then it stomped into the grave when the 30-30 came out.
The Longbow is extremely good as a support gun for the whole Team. Before a 3rd party goes down, make them even weaker with the Longbow and during that time, the two other team members can push forward.
Kandy is like the best grenade thrower in the game. He can probably win with just grenades
I can’t be the only one who’s best game ever was 2 days ago with a longbow in ranked. For some reason I’m just amazing with it
19:20 I think that guy got a heart attack
I actually pick up the longbow quite often, the biggest problem with its is its low damage especially if you have potato aim like me and can't hit head-shots, for a sniper its too spamy, and that's where the ammo cap comes to play for me, it's definitely enjoyable, but it needs more love
I think they should buff the ammo carried by 8 (32 for stack), because Charge Rifle uses more ammo in 1 shot, also Triple Take and Longbow have a pretty high fire-rate for a sniper. The only weapon that doesn't really needs lots of sniper ammo is the Sentinel.
Krazy: You think gas is your ally? I was born in the gas, molded by it. I didn't see a nerf until I was already a man.
Boom sounded like Morty at 2:24
Yoo i agree with u on the flatline. That rifle hits like a truck in Arena.
Long bow is the sniper you take when you can't find a triple take
Boom: wait ano......
Kandy: NO next part of video
The 4-10 is like my 3rd fav scope, very underrated
Bro ikr there sadly only a few OG apex players left 😩
Thermal ar sight replacing either one of the current thermals
I’ve won two recent games with the longbow being the gun that got me a final kill. One a Loba won a battle and made the mistake of trying to loot and I got a headshot. The other a bloodhound ran out of ammo and I got lucky.
I’m still anxiously waiting for the next 4k damage video, keep up the amazing content Kandy!!
"Batman" thats the funniest shit ive heard all day
I think sniper ammo is a good idea when the snipers are extremely powerful. As of right now only the sentinel, triple take, and Kraber are any good.
Let’s not forget that it was only SIXTEEN per stack until (guessing time here) the start of season 7!
12:23 def said oh jews then corrected immediately to oh jeez lmao
I use snipers a lot and yesterday I looted like 8 death boxes and they all had snipers/sniper stuff in them. I asked apex gods for a 4x8 scope, killed a solo and she was carrying a full sniper set with a 4x8
Wingman can open doors but longbow cant.
I still remember getting my first win in season 1 with a random and a golden longbow good ol days
So I wanna go out and say my own opinion on the longbow. I love the longbow, I only use The Times 2 bruiser scope on it.I've noticed that if your moving or strafing while using the gun the bullets don't really hit very well so before I take a shot I stay still for a seconds and that seems to help with the bullet hitting its target for me at longer distances. Skull piercer like hella necessary if you wanna use endgame tho
I've seen at least three different movies that are EXACTLY how you explained
His videos are so peaceful ❤️
mans like "i need long bow footage"
Once again alternate video title: kandy and boom talk about treasure for 5 minutes
So Macro may have been mememing in the beginning of the video or maybe it was genuine, but I agree with the introduction of sniper ammo being a mistake. If I recall correctly Staycation once made a video about how the ammo types had bullet effects and the heavy ammo bullet effect was that it slowed enemies. For the longbow I would argue that makes a big difference especially taking into account that Boom said he thinks the bullet speed is also an issue. If enemies are slowed then the bullet speed becomes a bit less of an issue. All of those variables would explain why the Longbow was strong back when it was a Heavy weapon and why it feels weaker now. Especially when the other snipers also deal more damage.