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  • @tropictom5996
    @tropictom5996 3 года назад +381

    Imagine the horror when you go to get your condom out of your wallet and find out that bump has been replaced by an air tag. Busted.

    • @TheAwesomeAccount
      @TheAwesomeAccount 3 года назад +26

      And they get so clever they even hid it in it's own wrapper. Damn lol

    • @hasanurkhan6810
      @hasanurkhan6810 3 года назад

      Good one

    • @nomirrors3552
      @nomirrors3552 3 года назад +6

      Screwed either way.

    • @lumer2b
      @lumer2b 3 года назад +5

      @M S People who have sex.

    • @ChuxDiaz
      @ChuxDiaz 3 года назад +3

      No one keeps condoms in their wallets

  • @rasimons1
    @rasimons1 3 года назад +68

    There’s a real balance between the stalking thing, but also being able to track an item of yours that was stolen. An hour doesn’t work because the thief knows immediately.

    • @piewhackit2me
      @piewhackit2me Год назад +5

      I removed the speakers for AirTags on my bicycle and backpack.Good luck finding it without the speakers

    • @essexfirebird3920
      @essexfirebird3920 Год назад

      @@Viewer765 not at all if you placed them in a car or bike the person still has to try and find them removing the speaker is a good idea for item you want to track ONLY if stolen

    • @essexfirebird3920
      @essexfirebird3920 Год назад +1

      @@Viewer765 if you remove the speaker (I have) its almost impossible to find as its only “proximity”

    • @stevedirdochegal6568
      @stevedirdochegal6568 Год назад

      Yea precision finding doesnt just work on your phone lol 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @iliyabotev1376
    @iliyabotev1376 3 года назад +237

    What if someone steals your backpack and then gets a notification that there is an airtag there. You would never know where your bag is

    • @hamzaxo5247
      @hamzaxo5247 3 года назад +33

      i guess they should add a feature where you report it as stolen and it wont notify it to anyone but you but that has so many flaws

    • @MonkPT
      @MonkPT 3 года назад +83

      @@hamzaxo5247 so if i want to stalk you i could just put a tag , mark'it as stolen, and you woudnt get the notification so iam free to stalk you

    • @hamzaxo5247
      @hamzaxo5247 3 года назад +7

      @@MonkPT exactly what I was thinking

    • @Spedfree
      @Spedfree 3 года назад +1

      @@MonkPT ehh not really

    • @conradofmc_ny6706
      @conradofmc_ny6706 3 года назад +3

      But if someone steals your stuff they can easily find the airtag. Off course they gonna look for it

  • @austin4388
    @austin4388 3 года назад +167

    The thing about 3 days is that the bad guys know that it’s 3 days so if they are gonna put it on you I’m assuming they gon do what they wanna do before the 3 days are up...

    • @the.mosawi
      @the.mosawi 3 года назад +9

      If they don't want an alert they can just buy a samsung tag or tile to stalk anyone without the 3 days limit.

    • @no0x
      @no0x 3 года назад +13

      @@the.mosawi or just an Damn 15$ Amazon gps tracker... I don’t get the hype about „airtags as stalking device“

    • @cpmanias
      @cpmanias 3 года назад +9

      @@no0x they are smaller, easy to set up and they can give you the exact location, because of the many iOS devices out there

    • @OHCAM5
      @OHCAM5 3 года назад +2

      @@no0x The hype is that Apple advertised it as having this anti-tracking feature. They brought this on themselves.

    • @Kitulous
      @Kitulous 3 года назад +3

      @@OHCAM5 are you talking about reverse psychology? Like when companies advertise their products as "unhackable" or "impenetrable" but this only persuades hackers to try to get into the product?

  • @BeyondtheBox1
    @BeyondtheBox1 3 года назад +140

    “Thats Batman status” lmao

    • @shaqpac51
      @shaqpac51 3 года назад +3

      First thought that came to mind when apple said they doing air tags

    • @OniSamurai_86
      @OniSamurai_86 2 года назад

      Reminded me of Flossy Carter 😅

    • @freitas209
      @freitas209 2 года назад

      Eli5?

  • @schadlarry
    @schadlarry 3 года назад +66

    I planted a tag off a remote hiking trail just to see if I would get any hits. 3 so far in two days.

    • @SmoovyNovaFan
      @SmoovyNovaFan 2 года назад

      creepy, if its remote who tf would be using that trail, what were they doing there? dumping bodies?

    • @leivaandre
      @leivaandre 2 года назад +1

      @@SmoovyNovaFan probably hiking. Just a wild guess though.

    • @SmoovyNovaFan
      @SmoovyNovaFan 2 года назад

      @@leivaandre Thats what they WANT us to think........

  • @kumassahkelly
    @kumassahkelly 3 года назад +39

    I don't know why but I feel both guys and ladies in my country are gonna use it to track their lovers to know if they cheating or not lol

    • @the.mosawi
      @the.mosawi 3 года назад +8

      Why didn't they use tile or samsung tag before? why now with the AirTag?

    • @collinm5277
      @collinm5277 3 года назад

      Or just share your location on your phone

    • @kumassahkelly
      @kumassahkelly 3 года назад +7

      @@the.mosawi Cause it's only Apple products that are popularly used in my country to kinda prove having a luxury lifestyle. And most of them didn't know tile or Samsung tags existed till airtags came along.

    • @kumassahkelly
      @kumassahkelly 3 года назад

      @@collinm5277 Trust issues

    • @ipodtouchfreak100
      @ipodtouchfreak100 3 года назад

      What country? Lol

  • @jacoboxendale3203
    @jacoboxendale3203 3 года назад +1

    Knowing its 3 days gives the stalker the ability to recover the air tag before the person finds out.

  • @CCooke-fm7jr
    @CCooke-fm7jr 3 года назад +166

    They should allow you to share air tags with another iPhone user like they’re gonna do with the Apple Car Key. So if I lend my bag to my friend I can send him my airtag link or something that knows it’s being used by him

    • @shuttzi9878
      @shuttzi9878 3 года назад +1

      No, the easiest resolution is to just limit the range after Out of BT to 400-500 ft.
      No more, no less

    • @tijn_tdt_tijn
      @tijn_tdt_tijn 3 года назад +9

      @@shuttzi9878 then someone that stole your car can get tf out within a day

    • @jrthhfdff
      @jrthhfdff 3 года назад +1

      Just list certain devices that are allowed to be near the airtag for more than 6 hours

    • @galbutler
      @galbutler 3 года назад +1

      Yep

    • @leek4022
      @leek4022 3 года назад +2

      They should have it where if they’re in your contacts then it bypasses the notification

  • @petersaithao
    @petersaithao 3 года назад +78

    Regardless of what apple decided on, people will still point fingers back to apple.

    • @blues_fan
      @blues_fan 3 года назад +1

      Yes absolutely! This wasn’t even a talking point or an “issue” until Apple tried to solve it!

    • @jmtrad1906
      @jmtrad1906 3 года назад +3

      They shouldn't have bothered with this market then if it can be bad for the brand if something bad happens. I can already see the news taking advantage of this.

    • @lavender8036
      @lavender8036 3 года назад +1

      At less there getting constructive criticism and feedback for there products to make it better, I think it would be better if the notification for an unknown airtag was within 24 hours.

  • @Chris_Hruska
    @Chris_Hruska 3 года назад +20

    its only 3 days for the beeping. it'll notify you on the iphone as soon as you're at a location that you frequent. so it could be less than an hour.

  • @PrashantKumar-ei8lu
    @PrashantKumar-ei8lu 3 года назад +17

    "You" season 3 noises intensifies.
    Can't wait to see it's application in "Black mirror" also

    • @cesrperez
      @cesrperez 3 года назад

      It’s like the episode Arkangel

  • @TimpossibleOne
    @TimpossibleOne 3 года назад +121

    Google would be selling locations like hotcakes if they had a hand in that

    • @rxnniiee
      @rxnniiee 3 года назад +18

      they already do, anything with android installed tracks you in the background, that data is already being used to show traffic jams on google maps, how many people visit a store on a given time etc

    • @gustavtarankov3899
      @gustavtarankov3899 3 года назад +2

      @@rxnniiee I THINK TIM MENAS LIKE IF YOU WANTED TO KNOW THE LOCATION OF AN SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL, LETS SAY YOU ARE A JEALOUS BF AND YOU WANT TO KNOW WHERE YOUR LOVE IS, S PLACE TO PAY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THE MONEY REGARDLESS OF THE THE PERSON BEING TRACKED ALLOWS IT OR NOT. LET'S FACE IT ONLY PEOPLE WITH MALICIOUS INTENTIONS WOULD PAY FOR THAT.

    • @7654321220
      @7654321220 3 года назад +3

      It's not like Apple wouldn't

    • @ThorbzE
      @ThorbzE 3 года назад +9

      @@7654321220 actually apple won’t. Privacy protection is a big part of apples strategy. Read up.

    • @7654321220
      @7654321220 3 года назад

      @@ThorbzE Privacy protection is a big part of apple's marketing, and then they still sell targeted ads like google

  • @danepittman1383
    @danepittman1383 3 года назад +25

    A notification after 1 hour defeats the whole point of the air tag.

    • @jacksonf_
      @jacksonf_ 3 года назад +4

      Exactly. The entire point is to find lost products. Now imagine- you are in a mall, and happen to drop your wallet/keys with an airtag without realizing they lost it until 2 hours later. Someone decides to steal the product, they get a noti, find the tag, and destroy/throw it out. Now your product is lost with no hope.

    • @Pseudynom
      @Pseudynom 3 года назад

      @@jacksonf_
      Imagine you're a woman. Your ex-boyfriend is violent and has threatened you in the past. You had to move, because he kept harrasing in front of your home. Suddenly you get a notification, that an AirTag was following you. Three days is enough to see where you live and where you work, which grocery store you usually go to. If you go jogging, someone could figure out your jogging route.

    • @jacksonf_
      @jacksonf_ 3 года назад +2

      @@Pseudynom there are two sides to the story and pros and cons for both

    • @Pseudynom
      @Pseudynom 3 года назад

      @@jacksonf_
      Yeah, potentially losing your stuff or potentially losing you health/life.

    • @jacksonf_
      @jacksonf_ 3 года назад +2

      @@Pseudynom but they are made to track lost items, that’s literally the entire point.

  • @OHCAM5
    @OHCAM5 3 года назад +13

    That same thing can be done with literally any other tag out there. Apple's error was advertising it as this anti-tracking miracle device. They should change it to be notified after a few minutes of an unwanted airtag following you.

    • @indo3052
      @indo3052 2 года назад +1

      Why does the phome give out location without aproval?

    • @indo3052
      @indo3052 2 года назад

      @The Real Incognome yes, but why would my phone give a random bluetooth device my gps with my aproving

    • @indo3052
      @indo3052 2 года назад

      @The Real Incognome its like if i knock on your door, but u don’t answer. Why is the door wide open

    • @indo3052
      @indo3052 2 года назад

      @The Real Incognome i don’t understand

    • @indo3052
      @indo3052 2 года назад

      @The Real Incognome yes. I understand the device doesnt have gps. But why would the phone automatically give gps info to an unknown bluetooth device, without your aproval

  • @florisbollen3770
    @florisbollen3770 3 года назад +35

    I feel like you glossed over the when your item is stolen part a bit. I agree that if I'm being tracked I'd like to know it within an hour, but on the other hand, if my item gets stolen, chances are that I won't even notice it before the hour is over. It's a though choice without a 'best' answer, although you showed that nuance quite well. Keep up the work!

    • @toddhurdon2016
      @toddhurdon2016 2 года назад

      What you said

    • @nibblessss
      @nibblessss 2 года назад

      I think if they added a notification when your item is moved without being able to connect to your device, you should get notifed straight away.. this way you can solve both issues.

  • @stephdeville
    @stephdeville 3 года назад +117

    I tested this with one of my co-worker : I took his AirTag home after work (on purpose) and I was notified after 4 hours!

    • @Zoe-vd6sr
      @Zoe-vd6sr 3 года назад +6

      There could be algorithm for accuracy for sure.

    • @klsmurat
      @klsmurat 3 года назад +38

      When you have an unknown airtag with you, you get notified as soon you enter an important place. Your iPhone already knows where you live or work. And then you get notified, but only when you have an iPhone. tried this out.

    • @Zoe-vd6sr
      @Zoe-vd6sr 3 года назад +4

      @@klsmurat I bet these reports have reseted their iPhones before using air tags

    • @blueeyedtech1234
      @blueeyedtech1234 3 года назад +3

      4 hours is too long. Honestly I would want a notification as soon as the airtag is separated from the owner

    • @Zoe-vd6sr
      @Zoe-vd6sr 3 года назад +17

      @@blueeyedtech1234 then what’s the use of air tags. Thieves can easily detect and get rid of air tag

  • @hodarih
    @hodarih 3 года назад +21

    Big lew. This is going on my 1000 dollar electric skateboard that I’m using to commute to a big university. Longboards are notoriously easier to steal compared to bikes, and on the flip side I feel a bit safer knowing If anyone took my board my airtag is hidden within the motors.

  • @JFabric500
    @JFabric500 3 года назад +39

    Think about dropping this into someone’s bag in a hotel and you are able to track them to their Hotel Room.

    • @localbear9444
      @localbear9444 3 года назад +7

      That’s not gonna work lol, what if you have some 50 floor hotel

    • @warhammerfaction
      @warhammerfaction 3 года назад +5

      @@localbear9444 def can work cause it’s actuate up to inches if it’s over feet you just go up or down a floor

    • @635574
      @635574 3 года назад

      But it still needs a iphone nearby. Wont work if they dont have one

    • @warhammerfaction
      @warhammerfaction 3 года назад +4

      @@635574literally there only has to be a iPhone within 200 feet I’m willing to bet someone within 200 feet has a iPhone above below or side of hotel room not even a. iPhone . A mac a iPad anything

  • @mylesmartin6377
    @mylesmartin6377 3 года назад +18

    This also kind of defeats the purpose of it. If I have it on something that gets stolen, the person who steals can just be notified that they're being tracked and disable it.

  • @Phennom
    @Phennom 3 года назад +18

    There needs to be an app on the android play store that gives the same notification apple does

    • @ThomasMurdach
      @ThomasMurdach 3 года назад

      From what I've read, if you don't have an iOS device you can't be tracked so it's not an issue for Android users. The tracking only kicks in when it's near an iOS device.

    • @bray2079
      @bray2079 3 года назад +1

      @James Stonks there are tons of gps trackers on Amazon.

  • @williamczuk7934
    @williamczuk7934 3 года назад +15

    They should have it under settings where you can see how long you want before your notified like 3 days, 1 day, 12 hours, 3 hours, 1 hour

    • @timetraveler_0
      @timetraveler_0 3 года назад

      This is Apple, you don't have choices.

    • @itsmanasK
      @itsmanasK 3 года назад +1

      Thieves Will Always Set It For One Hour Then...🤣

    • @morkins3243
      @morkins3243 3 года назад

      @@itsmanasK And? It is their responsibility to consider a solution that does the least harm. Property is replaceable. The dangers of someone using this to stalk someone and do something much worse is a FAR bigger problem.

    • @itsmanasK
      @itsmanasK 3 года назад

      @Morkins324 Dude, Chill. I know it's their responsibility..I am just trying to say that what William Czuk has written is not a solution.

    • @morkins3243
      @morkins3243 3 года назад

      @@itsmanasK It is a solution. Drop the theft prevention angle. Consider the uses that will do harm and take action to disable those. If thieves can find and disable AirTags after an hour, then it is functionally the same as how the world works if AirTags didn't exist. property is replaceable. It sucks, but you can get new stuff and the police can investigate to maybe find the thief...
      If stalkers can use AirTags to stalk someone for 3 days, then it is not functionally the same as the world before AirTags. Imagine a celebrity or internet personality going to a fan meet and greet, having a stalker stash one of these, and the the stalker finds out the exact hotel or home address for the celebrity, then commits a crime. The AirTags was used to facilitate that. The tech should prioritize a design that does as much as possible to prevent that use case.

  • @pk8
    @pk8 3 года назад +4

    You have to consider what the main use case is for airtags. People are putting them on their keys, in their backpack or attached to a valuable thing that they don't want to lose. If someone steals your backpack and you want to track it, it tells the robber that there's an airtags in it within an hour they're going to dump it before you can track your item to the robbers location.

    • @ilianagomeze.9207
      @ilianagomeze.9207 Год назад

      Agree, sometimes when we lose something take probably a day to find out you misplace or forget in other place.
      The main pint is to know where is your stuff. If I borrow my car with my daughters, it is nice to know where are they.

  • @jamescrutchfield65
    @jamescrutchfield65 3 года назад +5

    And thieves. I wouldn’t want to make them aware I’m tracking my stolen goods.

  • @jaskirat1999
    @jaskirat1999 3 года назад +47

    I believe theoretically it’s supposed to notify you sooner. If you go on apple’s website and scroll down to airtag privacy, you can see that the phone says “first seen with you at 8:50am”, and the person is checking it at 9:41am. So I believe it should theoretically notify you within an hour.

    • @kartik_sinha
      @kartik_sinha 3 года назад +4

      Date difference. And then it's on their website so it actually can't be trusted as much.

    • @sammyismuff
      @sammyismuff 3 года назад +4

      Kartik sinha can't trust the news too much either though :\

    • @jaskirat1999
      @jaskirat1999 3 года назад +10

      @@kartik_sinha if it’s a different date then it won’t say “last seen with you at x am”, it would say the date and time. That’s how iOS works. And it CAN be trusted since it’s on their website. I’m gonna wait for an unbiased source to conduct a similar test to see what the results are.

    • @apfelbaum4777
      @apfelbaum4777 3 года назад +3

      It does notify you earlier, I’ve seen other video where the feature is tested and they were warned on the same day. The article in this video is really dumb, they can’t say that it’s always like based on one simple experiment.

    • @anianii
      @anianii 3 года назад

      It doesn’t actually say it’s 9:41 am. It could be pm, and by that time you should have gotten the notification for sure because it’s supposed to tell you after “a few hours” of the AirTag being separated from its owner

  • @venom5809
    @venom5809 3 года назад +11

    I see Vin still hasn't learned how to sit in a chair. LOL 😂

  • @arterialrion
    @arterialrion 3 года назад +1

    The thought of getting a sudden "YOU ARE BEING FOLLOWED" notification late at night brings a strong Black Mirror vibes

  • @Eroc6823
    @Eroc6823 2 года назад +1

    It’s actually being reported that girls on my campus are finding them hidden in their cars. Like someone open the bumper and hid it in there. The only reason they knew was that they were alerted on their phone.

  • @devanshshrivastava3234
    @devanshshrivastava3234 3 года назад +4

    Here's what apple can do so let the airtag buyer be person A and the person whom A wants to stalk be person B. (He/she can be the victim of stalking or maybe the thieve )
    If the Airtag get itself apart from person A for more than 2 kms or more let the Airtag notify person A that it's missing and to find it within 2hrs after the notification given to person A and if person A fails to collect airtag and let it know that it has found it then make the airtag be invisible (do not give person B notification yet) for 12 hrs and later give person A another notification that airtag is again available and you can find it again.
    Another case -
    Now if the airtag is within 2 kms don't notify the person B and see if the person A is chasing the airtag (using something idk what )for more than 3 kms then make the Airtag notify person B.
    Hence the problem is solved for Apple users.

    • @emotionaldistress
      @emotionaldistress 3 года назад

      And what if someone was at their job working long hours and their stuff legitimately has been stolen and they don’t notice until they get off way more than 2 hours later.

    • @emotionaldistress
      @emotionaldistress 3 года назад

      There’s a lot more factors to take into account here

    • @devanshshrivastava3234
      @devanshshrivastava3234 3 года назад

      @@emotionaldistress Hmm . What you can do is make it clear to prioritize between work and the stuff with Airtag is attached to . And if you notice it after 2 hrs then as I said give notification again after more than 6hrs later from the first notification. And make it visible again for 2 hrs and this time if you fail to collect airtag give notification to person B that you have an airtag alongside you.

  • @atmilachkov
    @atmilachkov 3 года назад +11

    In fact, whether you have an iPhone or not, after the third day of you being tracked, the actual AirTag that’s following you will start ringing so that you can find and disable it even if you have an Android.

    • @MegaRazzzz
      @MegaRazzzz 3 года назад +3

      3 days is too long. It's long enough for someone to stalk, bump off the victim and their entire family & catch a flight out off the country.

    • @lukeparsram9925
      @lukeparsram9925 3 года назад +1

      @@MegaRazzzz tile doesn’t have this feature so imagine that

    • @MegaRazzzz
      @MegaRazzzz 3 года назад +7

      @@lukeparsram9925 Tile doesn't have the footprint of a billion connected devices either. It's a fraction of a percent of Apple's. Most people didn't even know of their existence until a few days back. This comparison is between a startup & a behemoth.
      If a Tile were to be used to stalk someone, there's a massive probability that it'll be lost forever as soon as it moves out of range.
      Apple has opened the Pandora's box by knitting this feature so tightly into their OS.

  • @joshuacooks
    @joshuacooks 3 года назад +6

    just imagine all the alerts people will get when traveling together for any period of time. like on a cruise ship. 😅

    • @theothernodude3139
      @theothernodude3139 3 года назад +1

      Or an airplane lmao.

    • @a1zach_81
      @a1zach_81 3 года назад +2

      @@theothernodude3139 you on an airplane for 3 days? Where tf you going?

    • @theothernodude3139
      @theothernodude3139 3 года назад

      @@a1zach_81 ur mom
      sike nah just cruising around the world idk

    • @a1zach_81
      @a1zach_81 3 года назад +2

      @@theothernodude3139 “just cruising around the world” best answer I’de hear. That shit cracked me tf up.

    • @FlyLikeAirplaneKnows
      @FlyLikeAirplaneKnows 3 года назад

      but the owners’ phones would be in proximity too, that probably won’t count as malicious following

  • @lucassheridon9809
    @lucassheridon9809 3 года назад +8

    If it was only 1 hour. You would get nearly a hundred notifications while sitting at the airport. (Once they get mainstream/popular)

    • @AdrianSpruce
      @AdrianSpruce 3 года назад

      1 hour with you, not 1 hour and then with you for 5 seconds

    • @raffaelbar4879
      @raffaelbar4879 2 года назад

      On iPhones you only get the notification, if the airtag is with you and you are at a frequent place for example your home. I’ve tested it with a friends airtag twice. First We put the airtag in my pocket and I went home, after 10 minutes I got a notification. The other time I didn’t went home for 5 hours or so and then went home. And right as i got home I got the notification

    • @raffaelbar4879
      @raffaelbar4879 2 года назад

      It messages iphone users, when you’re in a safe / friendly / commun inviroment

  • @MaheshBabuseeitlike
    @MaheshBabuseeitlike 3 года назад +8

    There is no right amount of time, but the location can be used as the trigger, there should be an option to set 1-2 miles radius where you enable the unknown tracking notification.
    So once you are inside that vicinity and there is another AirTag following you, you get notified as quick as possible, 5 minutes maybe.

    • @rxnniiee
      @rxnniiee 3 года назад +1

      so you mark yourself a known location where you go with the stolen goods to find out if its being tracked or not, if not just go home with it?

  • @usser1138
    @usser1138 3 года назад +7

    It should notify you once you move half a mile with it.
    And when you stay over 2 hours at a second location then when it first was put on you. (For people that live in small towns, who’s house is close to the shops)

    • @FinePilot
      @FinePilot 3 года назад +1

      And what if he is a thief who has that item with the airtag. Then what's the purpose of the airtags/

  • @Luna-oo9ru
    @Luna-oo9ru 3 года назад +1

    It's a super weird situation, gun manufacturers aren't liable if someone uses their product for murder. Is Apple responsible if someone uses their product maliciously?

  • @manny4218
    @manny4218 2 года назад

    He had a dirty look on his face when he realized he was gonna get tracked forever looooool

  • @justananimefan1570
    @justananimefan1570 3 года назад +8

    Time, distance etc for the anti stalking feature should just be a setting honestly

  • @JosiahLevandusky
    @JosiahLevandusky 3 года назад +4

    first alert, 1 hour in "hey unknown airtag, are you borrowing this?" second alert, 1 day later, "hey just want to keep you in the loop some bros airtag is with you and it aint yours homie" third alert 2 day later, " ayo i would take out that battery"

    • @cliproulette
      @cliproulette 3 года назад

      Makes sense to me! Periodic reminders JUST IN CASE 💪🏾

    • @cedricwager181
      @cedricwager181 3 года назад +4

      Another argument would be, what if the item is stolen? I don’t want the thief be notified on their iPhone that an unknown airtag is around them. It will cause them to look for the airtag and than toss it.

    • @OHCAM5
      @OHCAM5 3 года назад

      @@cedricwager181 that's two totally different scenarios and the tag can't do both so pick one

  • @ZygiBoos
    @ZygiBoos 3 года назад +1

    I am a victim of a bicycle thief and I know from experience that the thief will hide the bicycle somewhere in the basement for a month, where Airtag will not find it. Only then will it sell and maybe after 2 months later you have a chance to find a bike from another owner. 50 days is minimum, not 3 days (and not one hour!) As You said 99.9% of people will use it normally. Suddenly not all of them will become criminals because Airtag will be useful. There are many more real GPS locators on the market that always work not only with iPhones. Think about it - someone would have to rummage through your things and plant it! This eliminates a lot of people - only relatives and family, someone with whom you are dating! This is not a real problem.

  • @ryanleonardpaul
    @ryanleonardpaul 3 года назад +1

    I think the primary function is to mitigate theft. Why would I want a thief to know I’m tracking my stolen item before the cops get them?

    • @ryanleonardpaul
      @ryanleonardpaul 3 года назад

      Stalking is secondary. We have to consider our options.

  • @matthewpooley41
    @matthewpooley41 3 года назад +11

    What happens if my kid borrows the car keys and goes to school? Is a classroom full of iPhones going to get an alert after day three of that? Or does it “reset” itself if the proximity goes away and it comes back to my phone?

    • @exposedtrueself15
      @exposedtrueself15 3 года назад

      Good question.

    • @davidjude2862
      @davidjude2862 3 года назад

      After reading some comments it’s become clear that when you enter an important place the notification pops up like maybe your home your work

  • @RichardServello
    @RichardServello 3 года назад +27

    3 days is how long it takes to beep. If you have an iOS device you will get a notification on your phone long before then

    • @meshoverflow2150
      @meshoverflow2150 3 года назад +14

      Lew was straight up wrong about this, he should really issue a correction. The 3 day beep is for people without iOS devices.

    • @RichardServello
      @RichardServello 3 года назад +2

      @Zyzz I guess if you have a home location set in your phone it will notify you as soon as you get home... Of you don't it will notify you at the end of the day. I guess the idea is if you stole the item it doesn't want to warn you you're being tracked immediately.

    • @youngjezee
      @youngjezee 3 года назад

      @Zyzz my best guess for non ios users is that
      1. If the victim doesn’t have ios device then the stalker won’t be able to get a location because well the airtag needs an ios device to tell the servers it’s current location.
      On a second thought. Crazy ex can still log my routine and stalk me. Airtag tells all the ios devices while I’m on the road

    • @bholuwhoop5944
      @bholuwhoop5944 3 года назад +1

      @@meshoverflow2150 Whatever it is, even if you have an iOS device, the tracker will only notify you once you get home.... So by the time you discover the AirTag on you, the stalker would have known your home address....

    • @2078smith
      @2078smith 3 года назад

      @@youngjezee if u have a neighbor with a ios device, it can pick it up & still let the stalker know where the tag is at.

  • @shanmar1201
    @shanmar1201 3 года назад

    One hour into your flight your phone blows up because 50 people on your flight has a tag with them.

  • @jara3565
    @jara3565 2 года назад

    if you gave an hour during that time you wouldn't even realize that you miss a certain thing, such as a bike, and in a moment the thief gets the message, so he knows what to look for.

  • @YCai-pi7zu
    @YCai-pi7zu 3 года назад +12

    i actually have a solution for this: if your aritag is on whatever you lost, it will notify you first and will give you one hour time limit to start heading towards your stuff, because you would want to retreive it and your device will be able to tell if you are going that direction. if after one hour and the owner does not start approaching the airtag or contact the police, it will then be considered stalking and do whatever it does.

    • @shreybansal
      @shreybansal 3 года назад

      But what if the owner does not sees the notification before it's too late..... And 1 hour time ends.... Not only now he have to suffer the loss of his good but also face false charges of stalking

    • @Jorti1boomboxvideos
      @Jorti1boomboxvideos 3 года назад +5

      The largest problem I have with your "solution" is that is creates another problem. You can't have a solution create more problems. Your new problem would be, well what if i don't have time to go to where ever the airtag is located? I just lose my stuff because I am a busy person? that's not right. Yes, I want to retrieve my stuff, but not always can you get it at the immediate moment.

    • @super_hero2
      @super_hero2 3 года назад

      I don't think 1 hour is realistic, the owner might not check their phone notification that frequently, even if they do, they might not be able to head towards or notice the police within 1 hour therefore if someone forget their airtags in a library, after an hour, everybody in the library get the notification which is not a good idea.
      Another problem with this is that as long as the stalker is heading toward the stalkee, it will not be considered stalking which is not good.
      Lastly, it is not that easy to know if you are heading toward the airtag or not especially if the airtag is moving. If you have unlimited battery then it is easy but you don't in this case.

    • @MikeTrieu
      @MikeTrieu 2 года назад

      "...and do whatever it does" 😂
      Deep thoughts from this one!

  • @jelan292
    @jelan292 3 года назад +3

    There has to be "Scan airtags" option so you can check if theres airtags near you so you can check if theres someones airtags attached to you. For android users there someone have to make an app also that scans tags.

  • @charlenelloyd1886
    @charlenelloyd1886 2 года назад

    This is so dangerous to the public… I can see the lawsuits coming. Can you imagine someone putting this on your vehicle without your knowledge to track you for three unsuspecting days to commit crimes of theft a vehicle or perhaps rape, domestic violence, kidnapping etc.??? Can you imagine your privacy being violated to the degree that you have no knowledge of it for three whole days and quite frankly even 30 minutes is too long not to know that a device have been planted on you or your vehicle without your knowledge.

  • @ethanbruneau8932
    @ethanbruneau8932 3 года назад

    Apple, let me choose my own custom time to be notified if a tag is traveling with me. Don't decide my standard of safety for me.

    • @bray2079
      @bray2079 3 года назад

      But if someone wants to stalk you they could buy gps trackers for around the same price that won’t notify you. These devices have been around a long time

  • @LoveWorkTV
    @LoveWorkTV 3 года назад +8

    What if you’re on a long plane ride or a greyhond bus. That would be annoying if everyone gets a stalking notification in 2 hours

    • @StarsCountdown
      @StarsCountdown 3 года назад +3

      It’s designed to not give those alerts if it recognizes that your phone is nearby and it won’t alert other people unless those people go to a place the heavily frequently go to like their house

  • @iMrHeadSet
    @iMrHeadSet 3 года назад +13

    They need to have it for a full day at least. I have them set up on my lawn equipment. Had 1k of equipment stolen from me in the middle of the night. 1hr isn't long enough.

    • @corrd3ll647
      @corrd3ll647 3 года назад +1

      Invest yard night lights and cameras

  • @usmclea3531
    @usmclea3531 3 года назад +1

    Also, Apple couldn’t be held liable for any crimes that could possibly be committed by using an airtag. That’s like saying your gonna blame a gun manufacturer because someone used their gun to kill someone. Lol

  • @unripetomato4312
    @unripetomato4312 3 года назад +1

    a direct attack at android users lol

  • @vsayaphath
    @vsayaphath 3 года назад +6

    Definitely adding this to my dogs collar!

  • @el_aye_kay_es_aitch9761
    @el_aye_kay_es_aitch9761 3 года назад +3

    Best thing they can do is give notification in 2 hours for the airtag which belongs to someone in your contact and they should notification in half an hour for unknown apple user

  • @hunterbsmith
    @hunterbsmith 3 года назад +1

    Apple would make you pay $4.99 per month so that you don’t get stalked.

  • @zalllon
    @zalllon 2 года назад

    A notification in an hour means it’s useless for tracking something stolen. So if I steal a backpack, and I get a notification in an hour, then I look for the airtag to remove and keep the stolen goods.

  • @omar5342
    @omar5342 3 года назад +3

    Every iPhone user should have the option of when to be notified if there’s an Airtag nearby for a certain amount of time. iPhone users should also be notified if an Airtag is nearby in more than one location they go to.

    • @scottthomas5621
      @scottthomas5621 2 года назад

      That’s what I was thinking. iPhone owners should be able to set this in their phone’s options.

  • @serdar_ekrem
    @serdar_ekrem 3 года назад +4

    What happens when the airtag detects the iphone its paired in those 3 days? Does it reset the counter? Thats perfect for wifey/husband issue. Cuz they meet every night yeah?

  • @lucas_e3094
    @lucas_e3094 3 года назад +2

    i tink it shood give you a prompt if the origenal phone isnt near and you have traveld whit the unknown airtag for 5 miles

    • @petesmith4601
      @petesmith4601 3 года назад

      But if you know where the tag is you can bring the tag owners phone to that location and have the timer reset.

    • @lucas_e3094
      @lucas_e3094 3 года назад +1

      @@petesmith4601 its not a timer is only if you travel a distance of x miles

  • @nickchilds7872
    @nickchilds7872 3 года назад

    Ask the owner of the air tag if the item was stolen. If they say yes, the location is locked down and can only be unlocked by law enforcement. If they say no, it alerts the other person. Simple

  • @ApeReduction
    @ApeReduction 3 года назад +5

    From various tests that have been going around, it seems that for iPhone users it throws the notification once a ‘significant location’ is reached. For non iPhone users though, yeah it’s three days when it starts making a noise. Still problematic, but less so for iPhone users: that’s Apple 😆

  • @michaelbingaman2434
    @michaelbingaman2434 3 года назад +6

    Ironically, I've been interested in exactly the reason that there is a concern! I live near the Texas/Mexican border and just purchased a new F150. With the incidents of car/truck thefts being high here, combined with the vast apple network being so much greater than Tile I thought that it would be a great way to keep track of my truck if it was stolen...

    • @MrBollocks10
      @MrBollocks10 2 года назад

      Exactly.
      What else would you want one for?
      Is your keys it?

  • @elmedia1532
    @elmedia1532 2 года назад

    If I want to stalk someone, trust me, I am not going to use an apple tracker.

  • @The_Calm_Chaos
    @The_Calm_Chaos 3 года назад +1

    Personally I think they should never have put the airtags out at all. We managed without them before ... this seems to create more problems than solutions.

  • @happytoberu
    @happytoberu 3 года назад +11

    It can’t be instant or an hour for theft reasons. If someone steals my backpack from my car with it in it and I’m asleep... they will be notified, find the air tag and throw it out. Probably a good reason for the 3 day rule. Maybe 2 days?

    • @OHCAM5
      @OHCAM5 3 года назад

      But if they know airtags exist they can just look for it and throw it out. They don't need to get notified just assume everyone has an airtag. Or empty the bag into another bag and toss yours.

    • @happytoberu
      @happytoberu 3 года назад

      @@OHCAM5 That’s a big IF. Also, they might find it only if they look through it thoroughly enough.

    • @OHCAM5
      @OHCAM5 3 года назад +1

      @@happytoberu They would knowing it might be there

    • @happytoberu
      @happytoberu 3 года назад

      @@OHCAM5 again, that’s a maybe. Maybe you would. Don’t steal.

    • @OHCAM5
      @OHCAM5 3 года назад

      @@happytoberu Not really a maybe if this is a know aspect of the tag. If someone steals your bag the will look for a tag. But this isn't made for that though it's just to find your lost keys or bag not stolen property. What they dropped the ball on was the anti-tracking thing.

  • @ryangurnick
    @ryangurnick 3 года назад +3

    what about when you live in an apartment building and you go on a week vacation and leave some airtags at home… do the people in the surrounding apts get notifications? I think that adding some modes to specify “device being shared”, “person on vacation away from items” statuses might be helpful for the owner to specify how its being used at the current moment would make it easier to do hourly notifications… like yes simplicity is good but also provide the good owners with more options so that the bad owners can be more easily determined.

    • @cane870
      @cane870 3 года назад +2

      Then stalkers would use the vacation feature to totally circumnavigate the alerts that air tags give off to potential stalking victims.

  • @MusicalMemeology
    @MusicalMemeology 3 года назад +1

    So you have friends in the car and you get notifications after one hour for each one? That’s stupid. Or you’re in class and every air tag is going to notify you after an hour in a class? Can’t believe you guys don’t think more.

  • @TheNewGreenIsBlue
    @TheNewGreenIsBlue 3 года назад +1

    3 days is the right amount of time. It's a weekend. There are countless ways to track people if you really want to track someone.

  • @BladeTheMotovlogger
    @BladeTheMotovlogger 3 года назад +6

    How about Apple adding a setting in IOS to allow the user to setup up when they are notified by time, distance or immediately, whether they own an air tag or not?

    • @tourmii
      @tourmii 2 года назад +1

      or allow the person to turn off their own notifications. not the owner of the airtag, but the person with it. if they don't want the notifications just turn them off. if they're borrowing something from a friend they already know there's an airtag. imo the notifications being "annoying" if someone let's you borrow something is NOTHING especially when people are using it to STALK PEOPLE. let people be annoyed or let them turn off their notifications. don't wait 3 days to tell someone they're being tracked tf

    • @rich369963
      @rich369963 2 года назад

      If i was a thief i would love this. I would set it to immediately.

  • @supercoolcat7692
    @supercoolcat7692 3 года назад +24

    Imagine someone getting kidnapped and the only way to find them is an airtag that’s only active for 5 minutes.
    PS: the kidnapper gets a notification after 5 minutes and beats the crap out of Batman

    • @abhisheksinha7375
      @abhisheksinha7375 3 года назад

      Holy smoke 😂😂

    • @Reda-sl8hx
      @Reda-sl8hx 3 года назад

      Unfortunately living in a developing country this may be a reality, not so much of a joke, 😪

  • @shawnh2416
    @shawnh2416 3 года назад

    If the same device pings the airtag 3 times in 12hrs, notify that iphone

  • @iliyerfinchh
    @iliyerfinchh 3 года назад

    They must have changed this by now, in Toronto here, my friend and I went out together, and when he came back over to my house, it immediately notified me that an Airtag has followed me. They also added the feature to silence your friend's specific airtag for a day.

  • @UNITGJ
    @UNITGJ 3 года назад +6

    We’re all here worrying about stalkers when our governments want to know our whereabouts 24/7 😂

    • @umersalman1
      @umersalman1 3 года назад

      Correction: they already do 😅

    • @shuttzi9878
      @shuttzi9878 3 года назад

      Yes because the goverment won't touch unless u do some stupid shit
      Psycho gf or just a stalker won't just leave u alone.

    • @umersalman1
      @umersalman1 3 года назад +1

      @@shuttzi9878 Psycho gfs and stalkers havent been waiting for AirTags though. You can get a gps tracker from Aliexpress for 15 $ which can transmit your location to any phone for 100 days or more. They even magnetically attack to the bottom of the car.

  • @Desenrad
    @Desenrad 3 года назад +9

    There are a lot of people that go to work the same way as you, or work next to you . You will get way to many notifications within an hour. But I would say 12 hours of perfect for getting that notification.

  • @SongAndSilence
    @SongAndSilence 2 года назад

    Personally, i feel like this is made a lot safer by a software patch that does a few things.
    1. Have it able to be set by your phone when you get notified youre being followed by an AirTag. Have the settings be, like, 1hr, 12hrs, 1 day, 3 days, never.
    2. If your registered AirTag is away from you for over 1 day, it begins telling every iPhone it comes in range of that it is missing every 30 minutes or something.
    3. If you are borrowing a known individual’s belongings that have an AirTag on them, you can “approve” an AirTag by both individuals accepting a notification on both their phones

  • @Lady-Jane1
    @Lady-Jane1 3 года назад

    Imagine …..someone with bad intentions dropping one in your child’s coat pocket or school bag; being a woman living by herself having it dropped in her car or handbag; a person who deposits the day’s/week’s takings from a business in the bank night deposit safe and having one of these planted on you; being the victim of domestic violence and having one of these planted on you when you escape to a safe house…..it goes on.

  • @kore996
    @kore996 3 года назад +10

    Maybe there’s an option in settings to select how long you want to wait for an alert and how many alerts you’ll be receiving?

    • @kore996
      @kore996 3 года назад

      @@Ecktor yes it would be good to give people the option as to how often they want to be alerted

  • @andreimicle
    @andreimicle 3 года назад +2

    I think statistically, around the world, thieves are more common than stalkers, and you balance things out and you end up with those 3 days. Moreover, the principle is good, but you can't leave in fear. A stalker is less common than a thief or your own mind playing tricks on you and you always forget some damn things.

    • @The_Calm_Chaos
      @The_Calm_Chaos 3 года назад

      That's true, but a stalker is probably more dangerous than a thief.

    • @andreimicle
      @andreimicle 3 года назад

      @@The_Calm_Chaos not really. By their nature, they are cowards, hence the stalking. The predatory stalkers are something else. But let's take it as it is...a keys trackers😂😂

  • @paulrozinski1488
    @paulrozinski1488 2 года назад +1

    The part of this situation that I find ironic is that if the FBI wanted to plant a device on a criminals car, they would probably need a warrant but Apple ( and its customers) seem to be above the law.
    Forget about taking out the battery if you find one, rather get on a Greyhound bus, shove it down the seat cushion and let the owner track you all the way to St. Louis 😂

    • @MikeTrieu
      @MikeTrieu 2 года назад

      Law enforcement is already covertly using Apple's Find My network for surveillance. And why not? It offers them plausible deniability. Anyone could have purchased and planted that tracker.

  • @cney2125
    @cney2125 2 года назад +1

    You cant blame Apple if someone used an AirTag for stalking. That would be like blaming knife manufacturers for stabbings or blaming rope manufacturers for kidnapping. Shitty people are going to do shitty things with products designed for good.

  • @ReflectionEternal21
    @ReflectionEternal21 3 года назад +4

    Just have a setting you can toggle and pick a time frame.

    • @samarths
      @samarths 3 года назад

      Then a thief or a car jacker will set it to the lost possible one and do his thing. So now the victim loses his property and the airtag.

  • @BakingwithFabian
    @BakingwithFabian 3 года назад +11

    My Fiancé’s airtag was around me for less than an hour and I got notified that “unknown item” was near me. This video needs more views because of how informative it really is.

    • @azaloth8898
      @azaloth8898 3 года назад

      Yeah but don’t you only get that notification if you have an iPhone? If the person has an android they’d be none the wiser.

    • @OmarSanchez-ye4sv
      @OmarSanchez-ye4sv 3 года назад

      Well, can’t do much about that

    • @BakingwithFabian
      @BakingwithFabian 3 года назад

      Y’all are correct with the Android aspect of air tags but it’s nice to know that it will beep after three days of being next to you. As for iPhone users it’s a mystery because I’ve been told three different times and stories.

    • @dtaanic
      @dtaanic 3 года назад +1

      if you have an android you are not tracked. it’s other iphones nearby that can track you. this video is full of misinformation.

    • @azaloth8898
      @azaloth8898 3 года назад

      @@dtaanic yes but think of the amount of iPhone users that android user with the planted airtag will pass in proximity to. Whoever is tracking you is surely going to have enough data to narrow down where you are.

  • @hassanmahafdhah4366
    @hassanmahafdhah4366 3 года назад

    you all forgot the fact that someone could steal your thing that has an airtag on it, so you also dont want the airtag to notify the thief within an hour of having it

  • @neoteny7
    @neoteny7 3 года назад +1

    They can design it such that there's an opt-in setting in the Privacy menu whereby you can set to be notified of any stray AirTag following you at intervals determined by you, say every 15-30 mins or an hour. That way, if there's any unknown AirTag following you, you'll be notified within the timeframe specified.

    • @planetxmetal
      @planetxmetal Год назад

      What about the scenario of mass transit? I lived in NYC for a while. If I have an air tag on my bag and I’m on a long subway ride everyone else’s iphone would be pinging that there’s an AirTag following them.

  • @buccob
    @buccob 3 года назад +3

    How about coworkers traveling together or classmates an so on... does That means that a classmate or coworker is able to stop my tag from working?

  • @darielg8231
    @darielg8231 3 года назад +5

    24 hour is perfect but they have to add in settings a new figure that allows the airtag to be borrow for a friend. In my head makes sense

    • @joshuarmost
      @joshuarmost 3 года назад

      Ya I think that would be cool

    • @JattAnmoli
      @JattAnmoli 3 года назад

      Lol let me just say someone is borrowing it so the person im tracking doesnt get notified

  • @talarohanes6840
    @talarohanes6840 2 года назад

    I have been stalked by an AirTag, i got notified after 30 mins

  • @themafiabyo4783
    @themafiabyo4783 3 года назад

    1 hour means by the time you get back to your bag it might have been searched

  • @shreybansal
    @shreybansal 3 года назад +8

    Legends be like
    After three days stalker can put Another air tag

    • @LasseBrundin
      @LasseBrundin 3 года назад

      Or many just come close to you on a daily basis

  • @thaijones2
    @thaijones2 3 года назад +3

    Perhaps apple can come with a “check out system “if you let someone use an item wit one of your airtags. As far as tracking a person maybe let the user decide in their setting how long the notification of a foreign tag alerts you. In this setting the user could decide by time or by distance.

  • @yashsampat5582
    @yashsampat5582 3 года назад

    Also to add it can give name tags to your personal tracking devices and give a timer or count down, so for eg. If you have tag on your car keys you might not always use your car so you get that option to time the tag to give you notification of lost or away from phone.

  • @garywest5800
    @garywest5800 3 дня назад

    I just got a notification on my Android phone. It's now "beeping "

  • @youngjezee
    @youngjezee 3 года назад +6

    There needs to be regulation for trackers of this level. Apple makes it way too easy for this to be misused

  • @JonGoti_
    @JonGoti_ 3 года назад +4

    All Apple would need to do is create the ability to temporarily "assign" your air tag to a new user for a set amount of time. That would eliminate the notification for that set amount of time.

  • @clarencebeeks4978
    @clarencebeeks4978 2 года назад

    I have a feeling one of these is on my personal work truck. My boss always seems to know exactly when I leave a job.

  • @PersonaN007Grata
    @PersonaN007Grata 3 года назад +2

    Friend owns a jewelry store and parks in the back lot. Obviously if you check the lot every day, you’ll see his car all the time. They could potentially drop a tracker on his car and follow him home for a home invasion robbery. This is scary.

    • @omgness1234
      @omgness1234 3 года назад +1

      Or just follow the car, don’t need a tracker to do that

    • @72370pwo
      @72370pwo 3 года назад

      This could have always been done. There have been devices on the market for over 10 years that enable this same precision of tracking. The thing is, if someone is wanting to track you with intent to do harm they have always had the option to do so. It’s always been easy.

    • @PersonaN007Grata
      @PersonaN007Grata 3 года назад

      @@omgness1234 He takes the long way home for exactly this reason. If the same set of headlights are following him all the way to his exit then take countless turns behind him, they would stick out like a sore thumb.

    • @houghwhite411
      @houghwhite411 3 года назад

      @@72370pwo A story about apple device. It's smaller than competitors because it uses network of other apple device (iphone, macbooks, ipads) as radar.

  • @gabibbo_007
    @gabibbo_007 3 года назад +3

    When I stalk people, I just follow them home. Ain’t nobody need Airtags. Been doing it for 15 years.

  • @AMERICANPATRIOT1945
    @AMERICANPATRIOT1945 2 года назад

    All manufacturers of tracking technology must be held absolutely liable for any tracking of people without their permission. Such behavior without a warrant constitutes stalking and our legal system must be made to reflect this fact. Any member of the general public, including so called private investigators, must be punished severely for unwarranted use of any tracking devices to follow or stalk another person without that person's knowledge or permission.
    As far as the proper time frame for an air tag or any other tracking device to notify someone of its presence, the time frame should be thirty seconds or less. There is way too much potential for criminal abuse to allow a tracker to be placed on someone's person, belongings, car, or any other location without knowledge or permission.

  • @tim000x3
    @tim000x3 3 года назад

    The problem is also if the item is stolen and the thief gets a notification it's there they toss the tag.

  • @wyattspencer7003
    @wyattspencer7003 3 года назад +1

    There should be a setting in you phone to where you can change weather or not how fast you know a unmarked airtag is around you