He wanted a change - so they let him go. Equally, he felt there needed to be some tougher referees around the world game, so that players from all over the world got used to proper refs.
@@firstfiverugby I agree...they need top class refs in charge of a somewhat developing rugby nation's games...those players are learning the game from the top...all good for world rugby
0:40 that trap then casually turns round and starts chastising the no.4. JP Doyle is genuinely class, having him is a big win for MLR, a referee of his standard will improve the games and the league.
Having played rugby in the UK for years, when very much younger, I love seeing that respect for the ref has travelled to the new world 😁 Just a shame JP isn't still in the UK.
I understand your sentiment as regards JP being on the other side of The Pond. One of the really enjoyable aspects of rugby is the respect that players have for the officials plus a good ref often facilitates a great game. On a positive note it should help develop refereeing standards over there and that would be good for the World game.
deffo one of the best refs in RU. should be a great addition to the MLR to get the teams and individual players up to speed. Will be interesting to see what a difference he makes in the next few years to the quality of the games and refereeing from the other officials who are working hard to push RU to the North American continent
I really feel for JP - a world class referee finding himself reffing at this standard - you can hear some of that in his voice - but agree he will be fantastic for the game in North America.
A good irish ref, good humour, and quick witted, a good representation. The IRFU should've gotten him. But it's good that he's helping bringing the standards up in the US/Canada
Love the mic’d ref in MLR. Would like to see other sports to the same in the US. Keep players respectful and accountable. I’d pay to watch JP ref an NFL game.
The Irish Nigel Owens and "part-time coach" is someone who will help with MLR's profile in terms of disciplining and laying down the law like an iron fist. I don't mind if refs like him reduce the players to "school boys" with that constructive criticism on how to improve on the set-pieces and everything else. I'll give it time even if the whistle man is more entertaining than the match itself with the one-liners.
Even referees on club fields on a Saturday afternoon reduce the players to "school boys". I'll never grow tired of hearing 50 year old veteran players saying "yes sir, sorry sir" to referees half their age when they fail to roll away fast enough.
@@kevinwillis6707 certainly room for improvement, MLR is really only in its 3rd year as COVID cancelled year 3 a month in. I played 8 years from the beginning of professionalism in the UK and initially, we barely mentioned defense in our weekly preparation. Toward the end of my 8 years it became a large part of the weekly preparation and strategy. In my mind MLR is already ahead as they are working on improving defensive tactics and skill. A work in progress!
He is one of the best refs in the world, let go for selfish reasons by the UK, glad he has an exciting new gig in the US. A great place for him and his family to spend time. You can see he is being very very patient with the players, because they aren't at the same level he is used to. That number 4 turning away and brought back with a "I haven't dismissed you" in SA, Oz, NZ, UK that would have been a penalty for disrespect. There's a famous line by Lood De Jager, one of the best locks in the world, he's a 6'8" Springbok, he gets called to the ref for a penalty, he looks down at the ref who was probably 5'8" and says "Sorry sir".
JP Doyle was a huge loss to the game in the Premiership. Over in North America he's looking like the best referee they will every have encountered - and perhaps one of the best coaches too, the way he's talking them through the game.
Still one of the best referees in The world in my book and he should still be doing test matches and being associated to LSRFUR West. Make another old boy and the region proud!
Much like Nigel Owens a lot of the focus on JP is on his one liners but he is a good man to get decisions right in a game. A lot better than some thriving on this side of the Atlantic. Mike Adamson, Ben Whitehouse for example. Is he still on the international list?
I just hope he keep his standards up and doesn't let the Americanisms creep into his manner of refereeing. Give him 5 years and he'll be back on the big stage as a top class referee that we know he is
English football referees take note this how a referee should control the game, "come here, I haven't dismissed you" absolutely brilliant, FIFA, UEFA, PREMIER LEAGUE, do you want to know how it is done, watch Rugby Union.
What a loss to European rugby refereeing, a real shame the English had to let him go times are rough however if he is listened to he will improved your game greatly, good luck to him.
Yanks thinking they can treat this like basketball or American football. We don’t scream and shout like pop stars, we treat the officials properly. Lesson learnt, well played Mr Doyle👏🏾
Yeah, i mean all the sports are like that. You complain to the referees etc etc.Thats what i like about rugby, the overall respect between players and referee. Just let us get use to it we are just starting on this and willing to learn.
Not yet, no. The whole point though is to bring rugby to a wider audience and allow the game to grow. The best country to do it in is one where there is a huge amount of talent for contact sport that is wasted (how many high school football players make it to college football? How many college players never make it pro?). Rugby fans will often sneer at American Football, but a lot of the skills are shared, it's the techniques that need to be taught and refined. MLR has the potential to unlock a big audience for rugby in the US in the same way that MLS has done for football. It's never going to be as big as MLB, NFL etc. but a better US or Canadian national team means better competition for the Tier 1 and 2 nations. Take Japan as an example - they've gone from World Cup group stage whipping boys to beating Tier 1 nations regularly. That comes from a strong grass roots base.
He manages players brilliantly and communicates loud and clear, however he explains a little bit too long / too much to players when the balls dead . Pre-match you have to cover these micromanagement issues regarding laws. Players at that level know exactly what they did wrong and or why they penalized.👍👊
Those commentators chatter like dim women, oblivious to the fact that viewers will enjoy listening to the referee's instructions way more than their vapid meanderings.
I used to think he was a great ref. However, in Philadelphia for Sarries v Falcons, he clearly gave everything to Sarries. Plus, later, he was with the Sarries team drinking all night. That made him very unprofessional
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Massive catch for US/CAN rugby having a top referee like JP. Criminal that England let him go. Hope he does well over there. Deserves the success
He’s exactly what MLR needs. He’s great for the game, brilliant player management.
He wanted a change - so they let him go.
Equally, he felt there needed to be some tougher referees around the world game, so that players from all over the world got used to proper refs.
@@AngelicusImmortus very good
Great that he’s refereeing this game. He’s a great referee. These teams are so lucky to have this level of officiating.
Such a shame Premiership rugby and the RFU let JP Doyle go..... he's one of the best in the world
Thats why world rugby wanted him in the USA.
Great Referee & his Player Management is top quality !!
Your right they got it wrong letting him go
For sure, but US needed at least one top flight ref for the good of their domestic game. I miss his dry wit in the Gallagher though.
He’s exactly what the MLR needs.
@@firstfiverugby I agree...they need top class refs in charge of a somewhat developing rugby nation's games...those players are learning the game from the top...all good for world rugby
Man I'm so glad JP is back refereeing again. Such a great ref and hilarious
0:40 that trap then casually turns round and starts chastising the no.4. JP Doyle is genuinely class, having him is a big win for MLR, a referee of his standard will improve the games and the league.
Great to see JP back in the game, and a huge win for MLR. His presence and experience should help the MLR in many ways.
Having played rugby in the UK for years, when very much younger, I love seeing that respect for the ref has travelled to the new world 😁 Just a shame JP isn't still in the UK.
I understand your sentiment as regards JP being on the other side of The Pond. One of the really enjoyable aspects of rugby is the respect that players have for the officials plus a good ref often facilitates a great game. On a positive note it should help develop refereeing standards over there and that would be good for the World game.
@@konradyearwood5845 A good point. Thank you.
World class ref, without a doubt will be a great asset for MLR and for the players (some will have to learn a let respect).
deffo one of the best refs in RU. should be a great addition to the MLR to get the teams and individual players up to speed. Will be interesting to see what a difference he makes in the next few years to the quality of the games and refereeing from the other officials who are working hard to push RU to the North American continent
MLR's gain is premiership's loss.
J.P. has nothing to prove.
Absolutely one of the best
I really feel for JP - a world class referee finding himself reffing at this standard - you can hear some of that in his voice - but agree he will be fantastic for the game in North America.
He's half coaching and half reffing that game
"Yes Sir" That's old school respect right there.
A good irish ref, good humour, and quick witted, a good representation. The IRFU should've gotten him. But it's good that he's helping bringing the standards up in the US/Canada
Or the NZRU should have sacked Bryce lawrence and hired JP doyle to lead the NZ referees (NZ refs are currently worse than the french refs)
that touch @ 0:42
CAme looking for this, have a thumbs up 👍
Sad he’s no longer reffing Prem Rugbu but a ref as quality as JP will lift the standard of rugby in North America
Can just feel JP's irritation building at the state of those engagements on the scrums...
"Number 4, where are you going? I haven't dismissed you".
Guy got told and owned. Awesome.
absolutely stupid decision of the RFU to let him go in favour of some 'home grown' refs - best wishes to him in the MLR
So glad for JP, a great ref
Love the mic’d ref in MLR. Would like to see other sports to the same in the US. Keep players respectful and accountable. I’d pay to watch JP ref an NFL game.
"It's not my first week doing this" 0:14. LMAO
I need to watch more games with this dude.
"4 come back here, I didn't dismiss you". Brilliant!
The Irish Nigel Owens and "part-time coach" is someone who will help with MLR's profile in terms of disciplining and laying down the law like an iron fist. I don't mind if refs like him reduce the players to "school boys" with that constructive criticism on how to improve on the set-pieces and everything else.
I'll give it time even if the whistle man is more entertaining than the match itself with the one-liners.
Even referees on club fields on a Saturday afternoon reduce the players to "school boys". I'll never grow tired of hearing 50 year old veteran players saying "yes sir, sorry sir" to referees half their age when they fail to roll away fast enough.
He's probably have a grand time in the US, I wouldn't feel that bad for him. Domestic Rugby in the UK is dying of boredom.
JP Doyle just shot up the leaderboard to be the best referee in MLR!
to be fair it isnt a high bar , he should improve the game, now they need to get some defence coaches over cos tackling is awful
@@kevinwillis6707 certainly room for improvement, MLR is really only in its 3rd year as COVID cancelled year 3 a month in. I played 8 years from the beginning of professionalism in the UK and initially, we barely mentioned defense in our weekly preparation. Toward the end of my 8 years it became a large part of the weekly preparation and strategy. In my mind MLR is already ahead as they are working on improving defensive tactics and skill. A work in progress!
@@usarugby09 it sure is, half the tries you see in the highlights the attacker has beaten 3 or 4 defenders on his own.
It's telling what a positive influence a good ref can have on the game.
I think you can tell his frustration that the players aren’t good enough to play how they should
Can't understand why the IRFU didn't get him after he was let go in England.
One of the best refs around. So glad he’s back RFU made a huge mistake letting him go
great to see the US having a MLR league - great stuff from a UK fan . We need a strong US game for rugby - keep it up guys!
He is one of the best refs in the world, let go for selfish reasons by the UK, glad he has an exciting new gig in the US. A great place for him and his family to spend time. You can see he is being very very patient with the players, because they aren't at the same level he is used to. That number 4 turning away and brought back with a "I haven't dismissed you" in SA, Oz, NZ, UK that would have been a penalty for disrespect. There's a famous line by Lood De Jager, one of the best locks in the world, he's a 6'8" Springbok, he gets called to the ref for a penalty, he looks down at the ref who was probably 5'8" and says "Sorry sir".
A world class ref, shocking that he was let go by England while one or two other remain.
JP Doyle was a huge loss to the game in the Premiership. Over in North America he's looking like the best referee they will every have encountered - and perhaps one of the best coaches too, the way he's talking them through the game.
Still one of the best referees in The world in my book and he should still be doing test matches and being associated to LSRFUR West. Make another old boy and the region proud!
He should be in the Pro 14. Great for this league though. Enjoying the US rugby.
It’s mad, it looks like decided that he was going to singlehandedly set the tone for the respect of referees in the league
It's been needed....
He's up there with Owens, Barnes et Al for player interactions. I'd tune into MLR just for JP.
This is a steep learning curve for Green 4
But apparently he knows the laws better than JP lol!
In that he's choosing to argue woth him
@@canadiancontent352 He's lucky he was let off with a warning instead of being carded
Result for N American rugby - great reffing is so important to rugby that is enjoyable to play and watch.
Hahaha, I wondered why you said north America, didn't even click in my head that Toronto is Canadian 😂
Well done JP. Great to see
JP is a top referee
A seriously big coup for MLR. His officiating alone will improve the teams
Much like Nigel Owens a lot of the focus on JP is on his one liners but he is a good man to get decisions right in a game. A lot better than some thriving on this side of the Atlantic. Mike Adamson, Ben Whitehouse for example. Is he still on the international list?
Great to see America taking on rugby. Can't wait to see them in the 6 nations :D
But .... wouldn't that make it 7 Nations?
Cue the music ... (NAAAAAH, NAH-NAH-NAH NAAAAAH, NAAAAAHHHH......)
JP always a class act. RFU nuts to let him go....
I just hope he keep his standards up and doesn't let the Americanisms creep into his manner of refereeing. Give him 5 years and he'll be back on the big stage as a top class referee that we know he is
A world of difference from the level of control seen in Ice Hockey.
Quality 🏉
You know it’s bad when the ref is more entertaining than the rugby
JP Doyle we need him the Pacific super rugby competition in nz
Football would a different game if the game had refs like these. Respect gentleman.
Yep, there's a good ref . .well done Mr Doyle
0.42 Impressive !
English football referees take note this how a referee should control the game, "come here, I haven't dismissed you"
absolutely brilliant, FIFA, UEFA, PREMIER LEAGUE, do you want to know how it is done, watch Rugby Union.
Once a referee has the nerve to say “I didn’t dismiss you” they’re reviewer needs to inform them to get their ego in check.
JP Doyle acting as a primary school teacher. Tell him we miss him.
Pro14 would be happy to have him
This ref is a legend...
0:42 the touch
That foot trap though...
gotta be tough reffing U.S. rugby
He is a good referee but NEVER disagree with his decision (not that you should) as he tends to react badly to that side for the rest of the match.
Poor guy... JP must be wondering why it's even called rugby over here...
It would be nice if world soccer could adopt the respect for talented rugby union refs!
Yank commentators blew my mind.
Whoa is this what rugby is like in the US/Canada? Way different to us Kiwis
Yeah, but don't worry, given some time and real commitment to the game, you kiwis will be nearly as good as the US and Canada!
@@ozzieparky hahahaha. Indeed. Maybe we will become the greatest rugby team of all time, who knows 😉😉
FMD dad of the year lol 🤣🤣 surprise there was no yellow or red cards for stopping the game 20million times🤣🤣🤣
Should rename the video: "This is how two commentators natter on denying viewers the chance to hear how a world class referee manages rugby players."
Doyle for president
Did this ref learn his trade on New Zealand because that's their style
Hahaha 😂😂😂.. Comic!! Who is this guy?
Anyone know how much he would be paid in the US?
What a loss to European rugby refereeing, a real shame the English had to let him go times are rough however if he is listened to he will improved your game greatly, good luck to him.
Surely that second one is a pen for playing the ball on the floor??
Nope - as there was no ruck formed and it was just open play, the player who is on his feet is allowed to play the ball with his hands.
No ruck and was behind the ball when he played it so all good
Yanks thinking they can treat this like basketball or American football. We don’t scream and shout like pop stars, we treat the officials properly. Lesson learnt, well played Mr Doyle👏🏾
Yeah, i mean all the sports are like that. You complain to the referees etc etc.Thats what i like about rugby, the overall respect between players and referee. Just let us get use to it we are just starting on this and willing to learn.
@@Sambuca123 great comment this.
Uhh you ever watch a game with Johnny Sexton?
Condescend much? BTW, the player he calls out is from SA.
@@usarugby09 haha don’t cry about it, you’ll catch up to the standard of rugby etiquette expected. We’ll be patient🥴
Damn no more JP in the prem.
Jp is wondering 'was the money worth it?'
So much better than the useless Brace and Murphy yet the IRFU refuse to invest in bringing him home
I miss JP
Would be interesting if the commentators weren’t talking over the referee, and saying nothing of importance
yanks...no idea.
Not yet, no. The whole point though is to bring rugby to a wider audience and allow the game to grow. The best country to do it in is one where there is a huge amount of talent for contact sport that is wasted (how many high school football players make it to college football? How many college players never make it pro?). Rugby fans will often sneer at American Football, but a lot of the skills are shared, it's the techniques that need to be taught and refined.
MLR has the potential to unlock a big audience for rugby in the US in the same way that MLS has done for football. It's never going to be as big as MLB, NFL etc. but a better US or Canadian national team means better competition for the Tier 1 and 2 nations. Take Japan as an example - they've gone from World Cup group stage whipping boys to beating Tier 1 nations regularly. That comes from a strong grass roots base.
@@Savoycabbage Now that is how you properly respond to a British snob, well done.
England Rugby"s loss; USA Rugby gain
Imagine nigel Owen's refing this league lol
That'd be top hole!
major league rugby, i love american humour.
Teams respect to the Ref... Shame that Football/Soccer players can't have the sam respect...
He manages players brilliantly and communicates loud and clear, however he explains a little bit too long / too much to players when the balls dead . Pre-match you have to cover these micromanagement issues regarding laws. Players at that level know exactly what they did wrong and or why they penalized.👍👊
Those commentators chatter like dim women, oblivious to the fact that viewers will enjoy listening to the referee's instructions way more than their vapid meanderings.
Big crowd
Both teams indiscipline on the field indicates why the National team will never feature in RWC.
The number of times the scrum collapsed. Ugh.
Green guys showing plenty of belly fat and love handles.
My team 1992-1994
poor ole JP....
Loved JP, the commentators are just terrible! No clue whatsoever
I used to think he was a great ref. However, in Philadelphia for Sarries v Falcons, he clearly gave everything to Sarries. Plus, later, he was with the Sarries team drinking all night. That made him very unprofessional
God the commentators just don't stop talking do they?
What a waste of a top referee
Commentators need to shut up
I feel sorry for JPD having to referee this kind of garbage dressed up a professional sport
Great ref, but who on earth were the sh*t commentators?
Seems like he has an ego. “I didn’t dismiss you” - get over yourself.
You obviously have never watched rugby...
Sounds like a ref that loves the sound of his own voice more than anything,no wonder he got the flick
Remind us all again which national panel you were selected for...
@@PropBoyGinge there's always1 lol
@@Jase1000-p2f You are the one What a plank