The part that makes me really sad, is someday her dad is going to die. And its going to devastate her. Its such a strange feeling, feeling like you're trapped by someone else. Part of you blames them for all your problems. "If I didn't have to take care of you, I could go on and do better things." But deep down, you depend on them just as much as they depend on you. They become your sole reason for existence. Such a hard thing to really explain, such a strange feeling.
Bea is in the right here. Mae has her issues, but that doesnt excuse her flawed perspective. People who are reckless with their lives are so quick to offer up their solutions to people who are really trying their best to make it. Not everyone can just quit and sleep in all day, or do drugs to mellow out or just call in to go hang out downtown.
Eh I agree with Mae more, Mae isn’t saying to give up and sleep all day. She’s just saying that it’s not fair for her to do all the work but get nothing for it. She’s not reckless, she left college because she was scared of dissociating and hurting other people like she did years ago.
I mean, Mae isn't incorrect in saying Bea shouldn't have to do all the work and shouldn't have to put up with the shit some ppl throw at her. The problem is that Bea sees the consequences of what can happen and decides that it is just easier for everyone to not rock the boat like that. And that's also understandable! Doing something like speaking up against creepy male coworkers or refusing to take care of her father's business is something huge when it's an incredibly small town like this.
This conversation between the two was really eye-opening for me. As much as I wanna be like Mae and remember that I always have a choice in the matter, it's good to let myself and others be Bea sometimes and remember that we have obligations and consequences that can affect others. I hope that eventually Bea would be able to find a new way out, maybe even with Mae's help.
Soo this game has a really weird sense of taste. I chose stuff I knew I could cook something simple but good with irl, but then the game forced me to choose the spinach or the biscuits in addition. Mae and Bea ordered pizza that day.
I have no idea what's up with this game. I could make something good irl from the stuff I picked, until it forced me to choose between spinach and biscuits, which both don't fit in there.
Greg; not only is actually fun to hang out with, he never threatens to punch Mae for wanting to help him. That shouldn't be a criteria, but, considering Bea, it is.
Greg. Mae is allergic to smoke, yet Bea smokes around her all the time. Greg was her true best friend before she went to school. Greg is going somewhere in life and will also help Mae too in that way. Greg is also just a better adjusted character. Greg supports Mae but will still call her out when needed. Plus his quests show Donut Wolf and the Sharkle on Mae's computer, which are things that mean something to her. A routine and something else she loves.
I've got long term depression, some of these days can't even find the motivation to get out of the bed for more than a few hours and falling unto the couch again. I only mostly do barely tolerable quality work abusing my remote work time privilege. I just can't tolerate being with my colleagues anymore. Too much noise, can't concentrate at all. So for me it's the dad's I'm empathizing with. I'm pretty sure he just hates it being like that too. I hate how this shit is affecting everyone, me and the few others that give a damn. I'm wasting away whatever is left of my youth and I'm a huge disappointment to my relative who I still need to rely on for complex stuff. I'm fucking disappointed how I turned out to be after everyone's investment in my studies. I'm a non-functional slob with a degree too high for what I'm actually able to do now. But it's just like that, a decade of stress, anxiety and try hard all nights will just kill your brain. Now I'm just sleeping my life away like that. I can't even safely drive a car now.
Honestly, I see both sides, even if they are flawed. Mae is optimistic but needs to realize that the world is complex, and complex problems can't be resolved with "You are awesome" pep talks. Bae on the other hand, is right to be upset about being trapped in her problems and annoyed that Mae can't see the bigger picture. But she was way too harsh in calling Mae a shithead and threatening to punch her lights out.
17:00 "I am seriously going to punch your goddamn lights out." Well, if I didn't hate Bea before, that unwarranted threat of violence was enough to seal the deal. EDIT: The amount of people in the replies who not only think Bea is in the right for threatening Mae for no justifiable reason, but also think that me not liking her for doing so means that I "don't understand her character" is both distressing and depressing.
I like the Bea storyline because she's very realistic. Greg is very fun to be around and also has his fair share of problems; but I think it's quite nice to explore the complex character of Bea. She's dealt a particularly bad hand in life at quite a young age, and the interaction she had with Mae really goes well with her character, but beneath it all Mae is one of the few people she has, she even compares her to a sister. It's hard to be nonchalant and easy going with the type of problems she has; part of that scene was Mae being rather unrealistic about solving a complex dilemma that's taking it's toll on Bea. The main character you play as in and of themself is flawed and it makes for some realistic, gritty but also wholesome dialogue between two friends that are distant but trying to bridge the gap that has developed in the midst of all their problems.
@@rorysampson5492 I'm fully aware of what Bea's life was like, but that does not in any way excuse her for wanting to hurt someone who did nothing more than try to help her. I don't expect sunshine and rainbows from someone who's been through the things Be has - that'd just be ridiculous - but I expect maybe just a little more tact than "you're wrong; fuck you" followed by threats of violence; this is not appropriate conflict resolution.
@@Jaceblue04 Humans are complex man; she clearly struggles to contain her anger and that's why she ends up apologizing to Mae usually by message. Appropriate conflict resolution doesn't often come to mind in the heat of a conflict between two 20 year olds who are lost in life and internally frustrated. It's also worth noting that Mae's attempts to comfort Bea are quite idealistic; the other comments on this video expressing frustration with Mae as opposed to Bea. I'm not saying Bea was in the right, but more so tryna pinpoint that her reaction isn't exactly unusual, it's real and heartfelt. Plus I don't think she would've actually kicked the shit out of Mae, more often than not such a threat between friends is a stern warning that you're really upsetting them.
@@rorysampson5492 "I'm not saying she's in the right, I'm just trying to say that she's in the right by trying to justify her unwarranted threat of violence." Then again, considering how many other people in this comment section think Bea was in the right for threatening Mae with violence, I guess I'm underestimating how many people incorrectly think a tragic backstory absolves a character of any and all wrongdoing. There are like a thousand better ways Bea could've handled the situation. Hell, I'll even write one out for you: Bea: Mae, let me ask you something; what reason is there to stay in Possum Springs? Mae: I... don't know? Bea: Uh huh. So, with that in mind, do you think I'd still be here if I had literally ANY other options? Mae: Uh... no? Bea: That's right. Mae: I'm sorry, I was just trying to help. Bea: And I appreciate that, but the fact of the matter is that my situation isn't as simple as you think it is. Instead, Bea outright threatens her friend with violence. That goes beyond being frustrated and into the realm of just being an asshole, and, frankly, that's where any sympathy for Bea that I might have had went right out the window.
I did Bea's quests first. Have happily gone with Greg in every playthrough since. I just like him ways better for so many reasons. Though I still do her Mall quest.
Mae is a privileged little shit, but she means well. Bea is right, but she's overreacting. The one in the wrong is Bea's dad. He's a piece of... work to begin with, but maybe don't drag your daughter into a conversation about work and business and then berating her about it while her friend is there to hang out? What parent does that?!
Hmmm, I think my initial comment isn't showing properly. Mae doesn't recognize her privilege, but she means well, and Bea is right to reject unsolicited advice, but she's overreacting. The one in the wrong is Bea's dad. He's a piece of work to begin with, but what parent drags his daughter into a business conversation and then berates her in front of one of her best friends?
Watching this feels ultra weird because I can relate to both Mae and Bea in this conversation extremely
Same
Also because I really want to agree with bea but none of Maes choices do that
@@summerbreeze9576 Mae doesn't understand that not everyone has her level of freedom. It's actually really tragic.
@@tarvoc746 She's not that free, either.
The part that makes me really sad, is someday her dad is going to die. And its going to devastate her. Its such a strange feeling, feeling like you're trapped by someone else. Part of you blames them for all your problems. "If I didn't have to take care of you, I could go on and do better things." But deep down, you depend on them just as much as they depend on you. They become your sole reason for existence. Such a hard thing to really explain, such a strange feeling.
Relevant at all times and for all generations. very sad...
Reminds me of Silent Hill 2 plot but like, without the creepy sex nurses
I can relate to that sort of feeling many times.
If that's what makes you sad, wait until you hear this: Bea's dad is missing in the epilogue.
I went through this and the moment I left her room my brain was like "You gotta restart! You gotta restart! YOU GOTTA RESTART!"
Bea is actually the character I relate to the most in this game. For Alot of reasons
Bea is in the right here. Mae has her issues, but that doesnt excuse her flawed perspective. People who are reckless with their lives are so quick to offer up their solutions to people who are really trying their best to make it. Not everyone can just quit and sleep in all day, or do drugs to mellow out or just call in to go hang out downtown.
Eh I agree with Mae more, Mae isn’t saying to give up and sleep all day. She’s just saying that it’s not fair for her to do all the work but get nothing for it. She’s not reckless, she left college because she was scared of dissociating and hurting other people like she did years ago.
And tbh, Bea was a rude asshole here, treats mae like shit for her just trying to help. I like Bea, but she was shitty here.
I mean, Mae isn't incorrect in saying Bea shouldn't have to do all the work and shouldn't have to put up with the shit some ppl throw at her. The problem is that Bea sees the consequences of what can happen and decides that it is just easier for everyone to not rock the boat like that. And that's also understandable! Doing something like speaking up against creepy male coworkers or refusing to take care of her father's business is something huge when it's an incredibly small town like this.
I think the point is they're both right
So you're saying that Bea is perfectly in the right for wanting to, in her own words "punch [Mae's] Goddamn lights out" for trying to help her?
This game hits so close to home gawd dang
man fr
this was the point me and my friend playing this were like... ooff...
This conversation between the two was really eye-opening for me. As much as I wanna be like Mae and remember that I always have a choice in the matter, it's good to let myself and others be Bea sometimes and remember that we have obligations and consequences that can affect others. I hope that eventually Bea would be able to find a new way out, maybe even with Mae's help.
Not gonna lie, cream of chicken soup, macaroni and cheese, biscuits, and chicken sounds delicious
Soo this game has a really weird sense of taste. I chose stuff I knew I could cook something simple but good with irl, but then the game forced me to choose the spinach or the biscuits in addition. Mae and Bea ordered pizza that day.
I fucked up the dinner so hard
...horrible fish...
I have no idea what's up with this game. I could make something good irl from the stuff I picked, until it forced me to choose between spinach and biscuits, which both don't fit in there.
I did good the first time and bad the second.
Oh dang
*just me and the meats*
Shit now I'm hungry
If the creators make an adaptation of this game, which hangouts do you think should be canon?
I think it should be Bea's if you can only pick one, but they should find a way to include all of them in some way.
Greg; not only is actually fun to hang out with, he never threatens to punch Mae for wanting to help him. That shouldn't be a criteria, but, considering Bea, it is.
Greg. Mae is allergic to smoke, yet Bea smokes around her all the time. Greg was her true best friend before she went to school. Greg is going somewhere in life and will also help Mae too in that way. Greg is also just a better adjusted character. Greg supports Mae but will still call her out when needed. Plus his quests show Donut Wolf and the Sharkle on Mae's computer, which are things that mean something to her. A routine and something else she loves.
@@Athen239its established that Bea dosen’t actually smoke, she uses a dummy because she’s trying to get out of the habit
like I agree with most of these other parts but the smoking bit is kinda out of nowhere 😭
Likeeee
I've got long term depression, some of these days can't even find the motivation to get out of the bed for more than a few hours and falling unto the couch again. I only mostly do barely tolerable quality work abusing my remote work time privilege. I just can't tolerate being with my colleagues anymore. Too much noise, can't concentrate at all. So for me it's the dad's I'm empathizing with. I'm pretty sure he just hates it being like that too.
I hate how this shit is affecting everyone, me and the few others that give a damn. I'm wasting away whatever is left of my youth and I'm a huge disappointment to my relative who I still need to rely on for complex stuff.
I'm fucking disappointed how I turned out to be after everyone's investment in my studies. I'm a non-functional slob with a degree too high for what I'm actually able to do now.
But it's just like that, a decade of stress, anxiety and try hard all nights will just kill your brain. Now I'm just sleeping my life away like that. I can't even safely drive a car now.
Honestly, I see both sides, even if they are flawed. Mae is optimistic but needs to realize that the world is complex, and complex problems can't be resolved with "You are awesome" pep talks. Bae on the other hand, is right to be upset about being trapped in her problems and annoyed that Mae can't see the bigger picture. But she was way too harsh in calling Mae a shithead and threatening to punch her lights out.
Let's not pretend it was skill!
17:00 "I am seriously going to punch your goddamn lights out."
Well, if I didn't hate Bea before, that unwarranted threat of violence was enough to seal the deal.
EDIT: The amount of people in the replies who not only think Bea is in the right for threatening Mae for no justifiable reason, but also think that me not liking her for doing so means that I "don't understand her character" is both distressing and depressing.
I like the Bea storyline because she's very realistic. Greg is very fun to be around and also has his fair share of problems; but I think it's quite nice to explore the complex character of Bea. She's dealt a particularly bad hand in life at quite a young age, and the interaction she had with Mae really goes well with her character, but beneath it all Mae is one of the few people she has, she even compares her to a sister. It's hard to be nonchalant and easy going with the type of problems she has; part of that scene was Mae being rather unrealistic about solving a complex dilemma that's taking it's toll on Bea. The main character you play as in and of themself is flawed and it makes for some realistic, gritty but also wholesome dialogue between two friends that are distant but trying to bridge the gap that has developed in the midst of all their problems.
@@rorysampson5492 I'm fully aware of what Bea's life was like, but that does not in any way excuse her for wanting to hurt someone who did nothing more than try to help her. I don't expect sunshine and rainbows from someone who's been through the things Be has - that'd just be ridiculous - but I expect maybe just a little more tact than "you're wrong; fuck you" followed by threats of violence; this is not appropriate conflict resolution.
@@Jaceblue04 Humans are complex man; she clearly struggles to contain her anger and that's why she ends up apologizing to Mae usually by message. Appropriate conflict resolution doesn't often come to mind in the heat of a conflict between two 20 year olds who are lost in life and internally frustrated. It's also worth noting that Mae's attempts to comfort Bea are quite idealistic; the other comments on this video expressing frustration with Mae as opposed to Bea. I'm not saying Bea was in the right, but more so tryna pinpoint that her reaction isn't exactly unusual, it's real and heartfelt. Plus I don't think she would've actually kicked the shit out of Mae, more often than not such a threat between friends is a stern warning that you're really upsetting them.
@@rorysampson5492 "I'm not saying she's in the right, I'm just trying to say that she's in the right by trying to justify her unwarranted threat of violence." Then again, considering how many other people in this comment section think Bea was in the right for threatening Mae with violence, I guess I'm underestimating how many people incorrectly think a tragic backstory absolves a character of any and all wrongdoing.
There are like a thousand better ways Bea could've handled the situation. Hell, I'll even write one out for you:
Bea: Mae, let me ask you something; what reason is there to stay in Possum Springs?
Mae: I... don't know?
Bea: Uh huh. So, with that in mind, do you think I'd still be here if I had literally ANY other options?
Mae: Uh... no?
Bea: That's right.
Mae: I'm sorry, I was just trying to help.
Bea: And I appreciate that, but the fact of the matter is that my situation isn't as simple as you think it is.
Instead, Bea outright threatens her friend with violence. That goes beyond being frustrated and into the realm of just being an asshole, and, frankly, that's where any sympathy for Bea that I might have had went right out the window.
I did Bea's quests first. Have happily gone with Greg in every playthrough since. I just like him ways better for so many reasons. Though I still do her Mall quest.
The sad part is
Both Mae and Bea are right
Mae is a privileged little shit, but she means well. Bea is right, but she's overreacting. The one in the wrong is Bea's dad. He's a piece of... work to begin with, but maybe don't drag your daughter into a conversation about work and business and then berating her about it while her friend is there to hang out? What parent does that?!
Hmmm, I think my initial comment isn't showing properly. Mae doesn't recognize her privilege, but she means well, and Bea is right to reject unsolicited advice, but she's overreacting. The one in the wrong is Bea's dad. He's a piece of work to begin with, but what parent drags his daughter into a business conversation and then berates her in front of one of her best friends?