The part that makes me really sad, is someday her dad is going to die. And its going to devastate her. Its such a strange feeling, feeling like you're trapped by someone else. Part of you blames them for all your problems. "If I didn't have to take care of you, I could go on and do better things." But deep down, you depend on them just as much as they depend on you. They become your sole reason for existence. Such a hard thing to really explain, such a strange feeling.
Bea is in the right here. Mae has her issues, but that doesnt excuse her flawed perspective. People who are reckless with their lives are so quick to offer up their solutions to people who are really trying their best to make it. Not everyone can just quit and sleep in all day, or do drugs to mellow out or just call in to go hang out downtown.
Eh I agree with Mae more, Mae isn’t saying to give up and sleep all day. She’s just saying that it’s not fair for her to do all the work but get nothing for it. She’s not reckless, she left college because she was scared of dissociating and hurting other people like she did years ago.
I mean, Mae isn't incorrect in saying Bea shouldn't have to do all the work and shouldn't have to put up with the shit some ppl throw at her. The problem is that Bea sees the consequences of what can happen and decides that it is just easier for everyone to not rock the boat like that. And that's also understandable! Doing something like speaking up against creepy male coworkers or refusing to take care of her father's business is something huge when it's an incredibly small town like this.
Greg; not only is actually fun to hang out with, he never threatens to punch Mae for wanting to help him. That shouldn't be a criteria, but, considering Bea, it is.
Greg. Mae is allergic to smoke, yet Bea smokes around her all the time. Greg was her true best friend before she went to school. Greg is going somewhere in life and will also help Mae too in that way. Greg is also just a better adjusted character. Greg supports Mae but will still call her out when needed. Plus his quests show Donut Wolf and the Sharkle on Mae's computer, which are things that mean something to her. A routine and something else she loves.
17:00 "I am seriously going to punch your goddamn lights out." Well, if I didn't hate Bea before, that unwarranted threat of violence was enough to seal the deal.
I like the Bea storyline because she's very realistic. Greg is very fun to be around and also has his fair share of problems; but I think it's quite nice to explore the complex character of Bea. She's dealt a particularly bad hand in life at quite a young age, and the interaction she had with Mae really goes well with her character, but beneath it all Mae is one of the few people she has, she even compares her to a sister. It's hard to be nonchalant and easy going with the type of problems she has; part of that scene was Mae being rather unrealistic about solving a complex dilemma that's taking it's toll on Bea. The main character you play as in and of themself is flawed and it makes for some realistic, gritty but also wholesome dialogue between two friends that are distant but trying to bridge the gap that has developed in the midst of all their problems.
@@rorysampson5492 I'm fully aware of what Bea's life was like, but that does not in any way excuse her for wanting to hurt someone who did nothing more than try to help her. I don't expect sunshine and rainbows from someone who's been through the things Be has - that'd just be ridiculous - but I expect maybe just a little more tact than "you're wrong; fuck you" followed by threats of violence; this is not appropriate conflict resolution.
@@Jaceblue04 Humans are complex man; she clearly struggles to contain her anger and that's why she ends up apologizing to Mae usually by message. Appropriate conflict resolution doesn't often come to mind in the heat of a conflict between two 20 year olds who are lost in life and internally frustrated. It's also worth noting that Mae's attempts to comfort Bea are quite idealistic; the other comments on this video expressing frustration with Mae as opposed to Bea. I'm not saying Bea was in the right, but more so tryna pinpoint that her reaction isn't exactly unusual, it's real and heartfelt. Plus I don't think she would've actually kicked the shit out of Mae, more often than not such a threat between friends is a stern warning that you're really upsetting them.
@@rorysampson5492 "I'm not saying she's in the right, I'm just trying to say that she's in the right by trying to justify her unwarranted threat of violence." Then again, considering how many other people in this comment section think Bea was in the right for threatening Mae with violence, I guess I'm underestimating how many people incorrectly think a tragic backstory absolves a character of any and all wrongdoing. There are like a thousand better ways Bea could've handled the situation. Hell, I'll even write one out for you: Bea: Mae, let me ask you something; what reason is there to stay in Possum Springs? Mae: I... don't know? Bea: Uh huh. So, with that in mind, do you think I'd still be here if I had literally ANY other options? Mae: Uh... no? Bea: That's right. Mae: I'm sorry, I was just trying to help. Bea: And I appreciate that, but the fact of the matter is that my situation isn't as simple as you think it is. Instead, Bea outright threatens her friend with violence. That goes beyond being frustrated and into the realm of just being an asshole, and, frankly, that's where any sympathy for Bea that I might have had went right out the window.
I did Bea's quests first. Have happily gone with Greg in every playthrough since. I just like him ways better for so many reasons. Though I still do her Mall quest.
The part that makes me really sad, is someday her dad is going to die. And its going to devastate her. Its such a strange feeling, feeling like you're trapped by someone else. Part of you blames them for all your problems. "If I didn't have to take care of you, I could go on and do better things." But deep down, you depend on them just as much as they depend on you. They become your sole reason for existence. Such a hard thing to really explain, such a strange feeling.
Relevant at all times and for all generations. very sad...
Reminds me of Silent Hill 2 plot but like, without the creepy sex nurses
I can relate to that sort of feeling many times.
Watching this feels ultra weird because I can relate to both Mae and Bea in this conversation extremely
Same
Also because I really want to agree with bea but none of Maes choices do that
The sad part is
Both Mae and Bea are right
I went through this and the moment I left her room my brain was like "You gotta restart! You gotta restart! YOU GOTTA RESTART!"
I got the "accidentally good dinner" award for this. It surprised me, nonetheless.
I loved this scene a lot.
Your profile picture says that you have good taste in Nintendo games.
saturn has wings im from the future. All i see is morty. Help.
@@trulyadmirable7982 it’s been a year and I can confirm that it’s still morty, oh god
@@mocha.mp3 in a distant future things are better and it's not a Morty pic anymore
I absolutely fucked up the dinner lmao
Bea is actually the character I relate to the most in this game. For Alot of reasons
This game hits so close to home gawd dang
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Bea is in the right here. Mae has her issues, but that doesnt excuse her flawed perspective. People who are reckless with their lives are so quick to offer up their solutions to people who are really trying their best to make it. Not everyone can just quit and sleep in all day, or do drugs to mellow out or just call in to go hang out downtown.
Eh I agree with Mae more, Mae isn’t saying to give up and sleep all day. She’s just saying that it’s not fair for her to do all the work but get nothing for it. She’s not reckless, she left college because she was scared of dissociating and hurting other people like she did years ago.
And tbh, Bea was a rude asshole here, treats mae like shit for her just trying to help. I like Bea, but she was shitty here.
I mean, Mae isn't incorrect in saying Bea shouldn't have to do all the work and shouldn't have to put up with the shit some ppl throw at her. The problem is that Bea sees the consequences of what can happen and decides that it is just easier for everyone to not rock the boat like that. And that's also understandable! Doing something like speaking up against creepy male coworkers or refusing to take care of her father's business is something huge when it's an incredibly small town like this.
I think the point is they're both right
So you're saying that Bea is perfectly in the right for wanting to, in her own words "punch [Mae's] Goddamn lights out" for trying to help her?
this was the point me and my friend playing this were like... ooff...
I fucked up the dinner so hard
...horrible fish...
Oh dang
*just me and the meats*
Shit now I'm hungry
Likeeee
If the creators make an adaptation of this game, which hangouts do you think should be canon?
I think it should be Bea's if you can only pick one, but they should find a way to include all of them in some way.
Greg; not only is actually fun to hang out with, he never threatens to punch Mae for wanting to help him. That shouldn't be a criteria, but, considering Bea, it is.
Greg. Mae is allergic to smoke, yet Bea smokes around her all the time. Greg was her true best friend before she went to school. Greg is going somewhere in life and will also help Mae too in that way. Greg is also just a better adjusted character. Greg supports Mae but will still call her out when needed. Plus his quests show Donut Wolf and the Sharkle on Mae's computer, which are things that mean something to her. A routine and something else she loves.
@@Athen239its established that Bea dosen’t actually smoke, she uses a dummy because she’s trying to get out of the habit
like I agree with most of these other parts but the smoking bit is kinda out of nowhere 😭
17:00 "I am seriously going to punch your goddamn lights out."
Well, if I didn't hate Bea before, that unwarranted threat of violence was enough to seal the deal.
I like the Bea storyline because she's very realistic. Greg is very fun to be around and also has his fair share of problems; but I think it's quite nice to explore the complex character of Bea. She's dealt a particularly bad hand in life at quite a young age, and the interaction she had with Mae really goes well with her character, but beneath it all Mae is one of the few people she has, she even compares her to a sister. It's hard to be nonchalant and easy going with the type of problems she has; part of that scene was Mae being rather unrealistic about solving a complex dilemma that's taking it's toll on Bea. The main character you play as in and of themself is flawed and it makes for some realistic, gritty but also wholesome dialogue between two friends that are distant but trying to bridge the gap that has developed in the midst of all their problems.
@@rorysampson5492 I'm fully aware of what Bea's life was like, but that does not in any way excuse her for wanting to hurt someone who did nothing more than try to help her. I don't expect sunshine and rainbows from someone who's been through the things Be has - that'd just be ridiculous - but I expect maybe just a little more tact than "you're wrong; fuck you" followed by threats of violence; this is not appropriate conflict resolution.
@@Jaceblue04 Humans are complex man; she clearly struggles to contain her anger and that's why she ends up apologizing to Mae usually by message. Appropriate conflict resolution doesn't often come to mind in the heat of a conflict between two 20 year olds who are lost in life and internally frustrated. It's also worth noting that Mae's attempts to comfort Bea are quite idealistic; the other comments on this video expressing frustration with Mae as opposed to Bea. I'm not saying Bea was in the right, but more so tryna pinpoint that her reaction isn't exactly unusual, it's real and heartfelt. Plus I don't think she would've actually kicked the shit out of Mae, more often than not such a threat between friends is a stern warning that you're really upsetting them.
@@rorysampson5492 "I'm not saying she's in the right, I'm just trying to say that she's in the right by trying to justify her unwarranted threat of violence." Then again, considering how many other people in this comment section think Bea was in the right for threatening Mae with violence, I guess I'm underestimating how many people incorrectly think a tragic backstory absolves a character of any and all wrongdoing.
There are like a thousand better ways Bea could've handled the situation. Hell, I'll even write one out for you:
Bea: Mae, let me ask you something; what reason is there to stay in Possum Springs?
Mae: I... don't know?
Bea: Uh huh. So, with that in mind, do you think I'd still be here if I had literally ANY other options?
Mae: Uh... no?
Bea: That's right.
Mae: I'm sorry, I was just trying to help.
Bea: And I appreciate that, but the fact of the matter is that my situation isn't as simple as you think it is.
Instead, Bea outright threatens her friend with violence. That goes beyond being frustrated and into the realm of just being an asshole, and, frankly, that's where any sympathy for Bea that I might have had went right out the window.
I did Bea's quests first. Have happily gone with Greg in every playthrough since. I just like him ways better for so many reasons. Though I still do her Mall quest.