I want to share my Atlatl (spear launcher) experience. My Grandparents participated in Historical Reenactments, I was with them. We recreated Frontier trapping & trading period. Interactions with the other amazing reenactors of ALL timelines was an amazing childhood and afforded me SO MUCH experience others just don't have, but SHOULD. Full grown I am all of 5 feet tall. I was about 16 using the atlatl. The guys that made them (from archeological reports) were trying to figure them out, thinking "stationary archery". Myself and a friend had already experienced playing Native American games like la crosse. As soon as we held them, it just "CLICKED"! We knew what to do. Visualize an Olympic spear thrower + a high jumper with pole + a tennis serve. We walked over to a dirt bike trail a feet away, put the spear and atlatl together, balance it, a few big steps to build inertia, the launcher basically extends your arm and the physics of that inertia transfer to the spear increases accuracy and power. The distance we launched those spears was shocking. We weren't really even trying hard, just "feeling it out". Then the big guys took a turn and that was just amazing.
Even in 2018 the information this video contains really needed to be updated. I know of several other sites where Mammoths have been found and sites are being worked. Madera CA. is one....
I have found stuff with that same red staining. It's so faded it almost looks pink now. It's on stones I found in a pile outside an old Red Brick schoolhouse shaped like a castle that I love in.
One pointy that is ignored here is that Clovis went extinct along with the other megafuana at the same time. Also that sharp extinction date is fictitious. It was a good first order estimate, but that is all. Also, the broad ochre spread suggests that a hide, possibly just a portion of a hide, was preserved with ochre. Ochre is documented historically as a preservative, not commonly used. Ochre however is known to have been used globally.
Forgot the source, but on tube. I heard a lecture claim Clovis points morfed into smaller projectiles. I'm guessing due to bow use on smaller game Same culture though.
@@markbates3180 The initial fluted point form(s) are often described as "large." That is a false generalization though. Stone tool and weapon tip sizes are limited by the size of available tool stone. That limitation also can affect the way the pieces are manufactured. Fluted points of Clovis age occur all over southern Canada, the US, and Mexico. The characteristic fluting was typically made using percussion, and the flutes only ran about 1/3 to 1/2 the length. Some of the "later" variants have long flutes, and Folsom, which is definitely later (post-Younger Dryas) is not made in a remotely similar fashion, even though it is a fluted form of point. The flutes run the length of the point and are very wide. The edges are finished with very fine pressure flaking as well. The general consensus is that the typical delivery system for all these paleoindian forms was the spear thrower (atl-atl). Bows do not seem to have become prevalent in the New World until quite late. Archaeological evidence so far can only push that back to about 1,500 years ago. That's troublesome since the bow appears so much earlier in other parts of the world. But, recently arrow or dart-sized points have been found in paleoindian contexts in the Channel Islands off the coast of Southern California. We don't even know when humans first arrived in the Americas, though the White Sands footprints have definitively pushed the "earliest" date back around 10,000 years. UPDATE: Arrgh. The White Sands footprints are really more than 20,000 years old. Finger living their own lives.
Clovis is a tool making tradition that was employed by people who hunted large mammals. When these large mammals disappeared so did the Clovis tradition. The people that practiced it didn't go extinct. They adapted. Our species is really really really good at adapting.
...if Clovis found., tested as prehistorically Clovis. What supporting factors include the date and location of the artifacts in connection with them so as not to simply place a timeframe of all things based upon one thing? There are prehistoric artifacts with the "same" evidence of humans found today. Because they live there and learn where to dig, based on maps.
I expect they ate the Bison while butchering the mammoth because the Bison was an older kill. That was their hunting rations while going after the mammoth. They set up camp to butcher the thing and ate their older food first because it had a shorter shelf life than a fresh kill.
So with younger dates for human migration into North America farther back (Cactus Hill 14k, Chiquihuite Cave 30k.) So it wasn't just humans that ment death for the elephants. It was a certain group of specialized hunters.
Clovis Points DID NOT come from ASIA. Asian weapons tech was completely different from Clovis Point Flint Knapping which is decidedly Western European. Humans weren't as immobile as many of the Archio-Paleo Community suggests. Humans arrived in the Western Hemisphere at least 30,000 yrars ago perhaps longer.
What sites in Cali? I know Texas has some that date before Clovis but only a couple thousand years. And other sites date to before Clovis also. I've always thought that they stop digging when they find Clovis because they think it's the first. But they are wrong. Cali sites plz
I found a hoard of mammoth and sabertooth tigers on rocks and bone and diamond and meteorite.. beside quartz and amber.. amazing for sure.. I'm not sure what to do with a pickup truck full of it but I will do right I hope
Well , looks like he was off by about 10,000 years. They've found human footprints somewhere out west that date to 22,000 years ago. This is why I don't put much stock in these people. He's so sure about it. Then, boom! These annoying footprints show up and totally discredit the dude.
There were giant everythingin the animal world. They were normal sized back then. Maybe giant humans were fed by feeding on them. There once were camels, elephants, & prehistoric horses. What does the Smithsonian know?
Date evidence from a multitude of professional excavations speaks for itself, yet is ignored , and dismiss if not within accepted paradigm. I find strange individuals who rely on conjecture feel they're in such a strong position of authority to dictate anything. Evidence strongly indicates human arrival in the Americas occurred far far earlier than currently theorized. More than one site with dates in excess of 250,000 years. The Land Bridge Theory is not proven, in fact it's just the opposite. Although I admit some migration occurred, but that's it, some. Then continuing to promote that a small population of spear wielding hunter-gatherers is responsible for pliocene mass extinction is absurd. So absurd, I wonder if they've ever thought it through? They obviously haven't. In fact, in my possession is an artifact I personally recovered in N America, I've done this for nearly 37 years, is a human riding a tusked elephant while another is holding the infamous "handbag" symbol. Much is wrong with current beliefs, seems we don't have a clue. >50 paleolithic sites in North America a black mat or layer is found containing all the correct ingredients you'd expect if an impact event occurred. No in situ Clovis Culture artifacts are found above this layer. Several impact craters have been found which fit within date range of Younger Dryas Event. Personally, I've seen enough evidence that I believe we got set back to zero, and started over after a global impact event.
Dating older than 30,000-40,000 years ago for the peopling of America is highly highly disputed and the 2 known possible sites have serious issues with stratigraphy and little/if at all archaeological record. As for your comments about how megafauna "cant" be taken out by spears or comets or nano diamonds - is non sense. Turn of the Joe Rogan podcast and study the record.
@@colew306 I never said nano diamonds or comets took out megafauna as that is nonsensical. What I'm saying is field of archeology, aka conjecture, is full of arrogant individuals wearing blinders. They embrace one discovery, but do everything possible to discredit someone else's. They accept dating results for one site while rejecting another when same established dating methods were used. A site in Central America where dating absolutely can not be disputed as 2 separate lava flows were gone through to reach occupation layer. Dates of lava flows were already well established Dating placed human occupation way outside established paradigm, but you never knew that because it's not taught. Btw, I don't watch Joe Rogan, so shove it!, and I'm definitely not a self proclaimed pro sitting on couch like most, I have a very good reason for my views.
The thumbnail and title screams bullshit. Heavy duty butchering tool? Of what? Butter! It's a water worn pebble. I don't think superman could butcher a mouse with that! Hhm
@@ericschmuecker348 It has elephant blood protein on it, and it was still razor sharp, genius.. and seriously, a year later?? Wow, I knew you were slow, but gaw!
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I want to share my Atlatl (spear launcher) experience. My Grandparents participated in Historical Reenactments, I was with them. We recreated Frontier trapping & trading period. Interactions with the other amazing reenactors of ALL timelines was an amazing childhood and afforded me SO MUCH experience others just don't have, but SHOULD.
Full grown I am all of 5 feet tall. I was about 16 using the atlatl. The guys that made them (from archeological reports) were trying to figure them out, thinking "stationary archery". Myself and a friend had already experienced playing Native American games like la crosse. As soon as we held them, it just "CLICKED"! We knew what to do. Visualize an Olympic spear thrower + a high jumper with pole + a tennis serve. We walked over to a dirt bike trail a feet away, put the spear and atlatl together, balance it, a few big steps to build inertia, the launcher basically extends your arm and the physics of that inertia transfer to the spear increases accuracy and power.
The distance we launched those spears was shocking. We weren't really even trying hard, just "feeling it out". Then the big guys took a turn and that was just amazing.
Interestingly, cool...
Your big chopper tool is a heart, look at some anatomy pictures of a human heart.
Even in 2018 the information this video contains really needed to be updated. I know of several other sites where Mammoths have been found and sites are being worked. Madera CA. is one....
I’m glad he got to find a Clovis point!
Have any publications or lectures been presented n the Bed Tick Creek, Wyoming "Bishop" Mammoth Site?
What I would be interested in is, has the Clovis point been tested for protein residue?
I have found stuff with that same red staining. It's so faded it almost looks pink now. It's on stones I found in a pile outside an old Red Brick schoolhouse shaped like a castle that I love in.
How about revising those dates to below 22k years.
Gotta feel good finding that Clovis point!! Great demonstration!!
Great presentation and that kid at the end was so cute!
One pointy that is ignored here is that Clovis went extinct along with the other megafuana at the same time. Also that sharp extinction date is fictitious. It was a good first order estimate, but that is all. Also, the broad ochre spread suggests that a hide, possibly just a portion of a hide, was preserved with ochre. Ochre is documented historically as a preservative, not commonly used. Ochre however is known to have been used globally.
Ocher is iron ore rust I believe. Metals have preservative properties.
Forgot the source, but on tube.
I heard a lecture claim Clovis points morfed into smaller projectiles.
I'm guessing due to bow use on smaller game
Same culture though.
@@markbates3180 The initial fluted point form(s) are often described as "large." That is a false generalization though. Stone tool and weapon tip sizes are limited by the size of available tool stone. That limitation also can affect the way the pieces are manufactured. Fluted points of Clovis age occur all over southern Canada, the US, and Mexico. The characteristic fluting was typically made using percussion, and the flutes only ran about 1/3 to 1/2 the length. Some of the "later" variants have long flutes, and Folsom, which is definitely later (post-Younger Dryas) is not made in a remotely similar fashion, even though it is a fluted form of point. The flutes run the length of the point and are very wide. The edges are finished with very fine pressure flaking as well.
The general consensus is that the typical delivery system for all these paleoindian forms was the spear thrower (atl-atl). Bows do not seem to have become prevalent in the New World until quite late. Archaeological evidence so far can only push that back to about 1,500 years ago. That's troublesome since the bow appears so much earlier in other parts of the world. But, recently arrow or dart-sized points have been found in paleoindian contexts in the Channel Islands off the coast of Southern California. We don't even know when humans first arrived in the Americas, though the White Sands footprints have definitively pushed the "earliest" date back around 10,000 years. UPDATE: Arrgh. The White Sands footprints are really more than 20,000 years old. Finger living their own lives.
Clovis is a tool making tradition that was employed by people who hunted large mammals. When these large mammals disappeared so did the Clovis tradition. The people that practiced it didn't go extinct. They adapted. Our species is really really really good at adapting.
@@nelsonx5326 Iron oxide is not a metal. It's considered an inorganic compound more like a ceramic.
Interesting, thank you.
Wonder if he's changed his tune in six years?
...if Clovis found., tested as prehistorically Clovis. What supporting factors include the date and location of the artifacts in connection with them so as not to simply place a timeframe of all things based upon one thing? There are prehistoric artifacts with the "same" evidence of humans found today. Because they live there and learn where to dig, based on maps.
From the Eastern USA, most Clovis tools have no Megafauna protein residue.
i would like to know more about both sides of the landowner/archeologist dispute.
Painted their skin with the red oker
Very excellent
Really fascinating
I expect they ate the Bison while butchering the mammoth because the Bison was an older kill. That was their hunting rations while going after the mammoth. They set up camp to butcher the thing and ate their older food first because it had a shorter shelf life than a fresh kill.
I wonder if the ochre is related to meat preservation?
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So with younger dates for human migration into North America farther back (Cactus Hill 14k, Chiquihuite Cave 30k.) So it wasn't just humans that ment death for the elephants. It was a certain group of specialized hunters.
Clovis Points DID NOT come from ASIA. Asian weapons tech was completely different from Clovis Point Flint Knapping which is decidedly Western European. Humans weren't as immobile as many of the Archio-Paleo Community suggests. Humans arrived in the Western Hemisphere at least 30,000 yrars ago perhaps longer.
New mammoth kill sight in California dates around 140,000 years.
What sites in Cali? I know Texas has some that date before Clovis but only a couple thousand years. And other sites date to before Clovis also. I've always thought that they stop digging when they find Clovis because they think it's the first. But they are wrong. Cali sites plz
Covis people Def came from Asia...
Not the point itself
Some say as little as 10 families populated north and south America
@@dickdanger2235 no it doesn't...
I found a hoard of mammoth and sabertooth tigers on rocks and bone and diamond and meteorite.. beside quartz and amber.. amazing for sure.. I'm not sure what to do with a pickup truck full of it but I will do right I hope
You have paridelia. It's curable but don't seek help seek education.
What about those floor tiles under the ochre?
Why are the artifacts so deep in the ground, was there a Great Flood ?
Hahaha! No.
That's where the invisible man in the sky wanted them of course.
Yes Noah's flood, the Bible is the history book.
No.
Seriously unimpressed w the failed dig you wasted all that time to get into
How about airborne , seek the phosphorus , glows in strong uv..as I recall
"around 14,000 years ago you could've seen these animals".....AND BE EATEN BY THEM !!!!
How dated is this lecture.
Seems like he's towing the line.
Even i found a clovis point. Lmao.
that is funny... you seen rather simple...
Cool Clovis site/dig. Congrats!
also by boat down coast of california
if a group of young hunters had made their first kill, the ochre may have been part of a rite of passage.
or the floor in a sweat lodge...
@@flipflopski2951 yes.
what about meteor hitting glacierr
How are they ever going to explain all the dinosaur heads I keep finding carved into rocks in my gravel pit?
Nice guess wrong
Looks like cave bacon!
Well , looks like he was off by about 10,000 years. They've found human footprints somewhere out west that date to 22,000 years ago. This is why I don't put much stock in these people. He's so sure about it. Then, boom! These annoying footprints show up and totally discredit the dude.
There were giant everythingin the animal world. They were normal sized back then.
Maybe giant humans were fed by feeding on them.
There once were camels, elephants, & prehistoric horses.
What does the Smithsonian know?
Look at your man rubbing your ones back
Date evidence from a multitude of professional excavations speaks for itself, yet is ignored , and dismiss if not within accepted paradigm. I find strange individuals who rely on conjecture feel they're in such a strong position of authority to dictate anything. Evidence strongly indicates human arrival in the Americas occurred far far earlier than currently theorized.
More than one site with dates in excess of 250,000 years.
The Land Bridge Theory is not proven, in fact it's just the opposite. Although I admit some migration occurred, but that's it, some. Then continuing to promote that a small population of spear wielding hunter-gatherers is responsible for pliocene mass extinction is absurd. So absurd, I wonder if they've ever thought it through? They obviously haven't. In fact, in my possession is an artifact I personally recovered in N America, I've done this for nearly 37 years, is a human riding a tusked elephant while another is holding the infamous "handbag" symbol.
Much is wrong with current beliefs, seems we don't have a clue.
>50 paleolithic sites in North America a black mat or layer is found containing all the correct ingredients you'd expect if an impact event occurred. No in situ Clovis Culture artifacts are found above this layer. Several impact craters have been found which fit within date range of Younger Dryas Event. Personally, I've seen enough evidence that I believe we got set back to zero, and started over after a global impact event.
Nope
Dating older than 30,000-40,000 years ago for the peopling of America is highly highly disputed and the 2 known possible sites have serious issues with stratigraphy and little/if at all archaeological record. As for your comments about how megafauna "cant" be taken out by spears or comets or nano diamonds - is non sense. Turn of the Joe Rogan podcast and study the record.
@@colew306 I never said nano diamonds or comets took out megafauna as that is nonsensical. What I'm saying is field of archeology, aka conjecture, is full of arrogant individuals wearing blinders. They embrace one discovery, but do everything possible to discredit someone else's. They accept dating results for one site while rejecting another when same established dating methods were used.
A site in Central America where dating absolutely can not be disputed as 2 separate lava flows were gone through to reach occupation layer. Dates of lava flows were already well established Dating placed human occupation way outside established paradigm, but you never knew that because it's not taught.
Btw, I don't watch Joe Rogan, so shove it!, and I'm definitely not a self proclaimed pro sitting on couch like most, I have a very good reason for my views.
The thumbnail and title screams bullshit. Heavy duty butchering tool? Of what? Butter! It's a water worn pebble. I don't think superman could butcher a mouse with that! Hhm
You're not too bright, huh?
@@MOEMUGGY What could you butcher with it?
@@ericschmuecker348 It has elephant blood protein on it, and it was still razor sharp, genius.. and seriously, a year later?? Wow, I knew you were slow, but gaw!
@@MOEMUGGY "razor sharp" like Joe Biden. Got it.
@@MOEMUGGY
Elephant? Like Dumbo?
Mastodon mammoth or extinct pachyderm pick one but it's not elephant.
How dated is this lecture.
Seems like he's towing the line.
YES>>>>> Clovis First has been debunked