Doug, I owned a mid 80’s 5 speed 944 with the same roof… once it’s open to the “vent” position, those latches can be flipped and the entire roof panel lifted out and stored In the hatch. Almost a targa roof. It was my daily driver for 6 years and so much fun!
Hey Doug, the sunroofs on 944's actually can lift out, creating a large, almost Targa-like feel. As for the ignition being on the right, that is how Porsche did it on all transaxle Porsches, the top of the line 928 included. They were intent on changing themselves away from the old VW Beetle based 356 and 911 models. The 924 was actually supposed to be a VW, not an Audi, but it was set for an Audi engine. The 944 benefitted from the same Porsche design and build quality as all their other models, and really holds up well. It is solid, sturdy and reliable. I have a 1985.5 with 55,000 miles and still on the original clutch, that looks like a showroom new car!
Yeah I'm not sure how he missed it, if you look at some of those latches, it's clear that its supposed to come off. C'mon Doug! You're better than this.
Thank you for the corrections! Was excited to watch Doug's first video about a car I actually own, but was sad to see how much he got wrong. I have an '87 Turbo with over 160k miles myself.
Yes but he gets far more views on newer cars. It takes a lot to do videos. I'd understand if he focused only on newer cars when they get 5x more views. Man has a family and has to prioritize.
I'm 17 and I bought my 944 base in January for $2500 non running, after some parts and wrenching I managed to get it roadworthy and have no issues to date. My car is Kalahari beige Metallic over dark brown interior, I have since recovered the seats to a slightly lighter brown colour and have made several upgrades to improve the car. My favorite thing about it is just how it feels when driving it, I enjoy the handling and I find that it has enough power for its size
I've had three base 944s, two turbos (951s) - and 2 968s.... Or what some will call the 944 S3. The days of any of these being affordable are long gone, unless you find a seller that doesn't know ;). But they are an awesome car, although the base ones aren't exactly powerful, but the handling and the driving position and just the structural integrity is next level. The way the doors closed is literally a benchmark for every other automaker. And the design is truly timeless. Just some forewarnings if you're thinking about buying one. Absolutely positively make sure that the timing belt/ water pump job has been taken care of. If you don't have recent records of it being done, budget for it and do not skip it! If you're not familiar with Porsche and you're not a competent wrencher, make sure to get a PPI by a shop that knows these. They're incredibly robust cars but as you can imagine the parts can be expensive. With the back seat folded down you can literally stick two bikes in the back! As long as you don't drive like a nutcase they get excellent gas mileage (they only weigh around 2,700 pounds) With the massive moonroof out it's almost like having a convertible! If you insist on getting the 944/turbo, the one year 1986 model with the updates and nicer interior also gives you the much nicer offset on the wheels (pre abs). The phone dials looks so much better with the lip....imho (I think most would agree) And finally in my opinion if you do want the penultimate of this series of cars, the final 968 with the massive 3L, 4 cylinder was rated at 240 horsepower and with a six-speed could hit mid-fives 0 to 60, so they go pretty well. And they didn't have the massive turbo lag of the 951, although that can be charming in its own way. Find a good one, get it up to snuff, take care of it, and it'll be money in the bank!
I drove multiple modded 944 turbos,modded 944 turbo S(88-89’) , 944 turbo S 2.7 stroker,944 turbo with 3 liter block, 968 3liter turbo ,968 turbo s replica ( 3liter block , 2.7 head, turbo) super fun drives , some of the best experiences of my life. I also owned a red 968 cab 6 spd for 3 years. The 968 is definitely the best for your buck , in terms of performance , looks, handling , exhaust note, reliability.the interior is nicer, updated , also has 6spd, updated steering rack(makes big difference). For pure performance if you wanted to mod the 944 turbo is your boy. But for regular city driving and just overall enjoyable driving the 968 will do it better. The 944 turbo has no low end power, so you have to wait for boost. Both are excellent choices though , coming from someone whose driven hundreds of these 944’s, maybe around only 10 968’s. Although it is not designated with any Badges it should with its vin/ car identity. The Turbo “ S” would be the one to get . The Turbo “S” was released 88-89’ , every 89 is a Turbo “ S” but not every 88’ is a Turbo “ S” . The Turbo “S” is worth twice as much as any other 944 Turbo. It came equipped and upgraded with fully adjustable coilovers, larger sway bars front and rear, larger brake calipers , larger spindles and hubs that allow for upgrades to 996 brakes, it also had an upgraded larger Turbo, which boosted power up to 247hp, up from 225. It also had an updated transmission with LSD , different gear ratio and hardened 5th gear. In the interior is also had upgrades , the door panels were 10 speaker door panels and they had tweeters in the top corner of door panel and the rest under the arm rests. The gauge cluster had speedometer to 180 mph vs 160 mph. Practically a track ready 944 turbo. There’s alot to cover on these cars and Doug barely scratched the surface. The 89’ 944 “S” was 2.7 head on 2.5 block , with different cam, and it was around 209 hp. The 89-91 944 “S2” was had 944 turbo look front and back , but also came in a cabriolet, it came with 16v ,3.0l 4cyl, 220 hp, it also had different transmission with shorter gear ratios, some had LSD..it had the 944 turbo “S” 10 speaker door panel interior as well.
He’s reviewed everything new, all he has left is older cars really. So I’m sure he’s doing it out of necessity, especially since the car is on his site being sold.
@@sam0wings Well, not really. What about the Jaguar XE S ? (5 second 0-100kph) Or the Mercedes C43 - those are crazy 'Daily Drivers' any petrolhead would love, fast and their engines sounding amazing and fully refined. Not everything has to be an ''exxxotticcc sporrrts carrr!1''
I used to love this car! I remember buying a raffle ticket for a 944 when i was 13, hoping and praying I’d win it and dreaming of the day i turned 16 so i could drive it. Still see them around once in a while, and still a beautiful car.
I own a 1986 944 (naturally aspirated). These days it's a lot of fun to see how people react to the car. There are many young people who have never seen one in the flesh! Teenagers will stop whatever they are doing to check it out. I've seen people make detours across parking lots to stop and look at it. Its design has passed the test of time.
my father had the same model, white color, was the second car i drove in my life, 1 year after i've taken my license (only 5 years ago). That was the car that made me a car enthusiast to this days, still heartbroken because we had to sell it.... it has been replaced with a 2006 SLK but it doesn't feel the same for me: once you go Porsche you will never come back >.< I've promised myself i will buy it back one day...
Small corrections: the door sills badging isn't oem. The sunroof is also completely removal if you insert and turn the key to position 1, then use the down switch to retract the rare latches completely into the body, allowing you to completely remove the sunroof once you uncouple the front latches pictured in the video. The armrest in the center console isn't always a cassette rack. Some cars have it some cars don't.
I’m 26 and just bought an ‘89 Turbo with 250 hp today. My entry I to the Porsche classics world and it drove like butter. So looking forward to many many years with this gem
Great review doug, thanks for bringing some love to the 944. However you missed the 944’s best party trick! That sunroof panel pops out with the key in the first click position and the sunroof button held and then of course un doing the latches; 80% of the roof comes out
If you push the sunroof switch forward it unlatches and lets you remove the sunroof to stow in the hatch (inside the little leather accessory bag). So in essence it was like a giant targa roof.
@@Nostalgic-Mechanic He's too busy calling it "quirky" and not modern to actually read it. Furthermore, a spiral binding isn't Quirky, its logical (the book lays flat)
Anyone who has watched Sixteen Candles should know this. :) I do like how that comes off. And it seems to come off pretty easily. I would have liked to own one of these. The power part of it is silly though. Would just rather have the manual latches.
@Brad C At least with the new cars there's a good chance that anything he misses won't be known to the viewers so he's safe from that sort of critique.
I had a 1988 944, sadly not the turbo model. But it was, by far, the best handling car I have ever owned. I loved it. The next car I bought was a 2003 Mercedes Benz SL 500 AMG that had 4 times as much power, but I still prefer the looks of the 944. It was just gorgeous. If I still had it today, I would have completely redone everything, including replacing the motor with an LS-1 swap, redone the brakes and suspension, redone the exhaust and cooling system. I own a 2017 911 now, but I still prefer my old 944 with their pop up headlights. I miss the 80's!
An important part of these cars was the rear transaxle, allowing the engine to be mounted further back and giving it a 50/50 weight distribution and amazing handling. Future versions of this car were even better: 944 S2, 968, 968 CS, 968 Turbo, 968 Turbo RS, etc.
Love when you do the old cars. I can dig on some of the newer cars if they're interesting but most of them are boring and I turned the video off halfway. But my eyes are glued to just about any older car review
Oh man, I've been waiting for this for a while now. I know this Porsche 944 all too well because my father was the previous owner of this exact vehicle. Here are a bunch of points about the vehicle: •He had it since 2014, but sold it on Cars and Bids as he's winding down with age. •This car won Best Porsche at a local car show in Florida I went to with him. •Never knew about the light in the key or the trip odometer reset button. •It's in excellent condition because my father is METICULOUS about his cars (he's had several nice cars). If so much as even a tiny, insignificant scratch was spotted, back into the shop it went (which is where it spent most of its time or in storage). •He put the Blaupunkt stereo in after he got the car, I don't think it came with the car. No he never used the cassette storage he used a cassette adapter for his phone. •Doug is not exaggerating about the backseats. They're ridiculously tiny, I'm shorter than he is (5'9") and even I couldn't fit back there. Why Porsche put them in I have no clue. •The spare tire only looks like a spare tire in the academic sense, it is round and made of rubber. •I believe the current owner of this car told my father that this car drives better than a Ferrari (I want to say a Testarossa). Having ridden in it, it's not bad but the seats are rather stiff. •My father now just owns a red Mercedes Benz convertible, a newer white Porsche 911 and a Tesla Model S Plaid. Yes he did show off the acceleration of the Plaid and it is INSANE. Glad to see Doug enjoyed it. Also my dad who's a Doug Demuro fan watched the video and thinks Doug was fair with his score of the car.
The Testarossa is not a great car (looks aside) so I'm not surprised. The back seats are there to reduce insurance costs, like on most 2+2 cars. Edit: Well I guess I'm wrong about the insurance thing!
@@kevinmitchell766 just as worthless as the seats in a frs/brz ,,just doesn't make sense why they don't just give more trunk space in all cars with these unusable back seats
one thing not mentioned is how confidence-inspiring the chassis/weight set up was. i've raced and instructed for 914, 911, and 944s with the Porsche Owners Club and the 944 was so well balanced. It would gently oversteer on power with no drama on lift (unlike 911 or 914). really a fun car and they could make tons of HP with mods because of the turbo.
My dream car in the 80s. I think I test drove 20 of them all over the Rhineland. Especially when I showed up in a suit and tie and played the "yuppy". Sometimes they even let me take one out by myself for a few hours because i had to attend an important business meeting in Cologne or Duesseldorf. Young me on the Autobahn......Oh how I miss the 80s.
My first Porsche was a 944 I bought in Germany for $3000. I always wanted a turbo, but never managed to get one. They are GREAT cars to drive. Other things to know about the 944: 1. Do not reset the trip odometer while moving, it will strip the gear inside the gauge cluster. 2. Do not attempt to mount your sub amp in front of the spare tire. You fill find the gas tank. 3. Changing the clutch takes at least 15 hours. 4. The 944 will fit at least 1 Cisco 5509 chassis switch OR an armoire if you fold the back seat down. 5. The sunroof is removable, as others have pointed out. What else is neat about the car?
Thank you, thank you! This was one of my dream cars back in the day. This car deserves so much more love than it gets! In the 80's, IMHO, the 911 looked like a bug-eyed monster that had sketchy driving dynamics. The 944 was sleek and had perfect handling, but it was slow. The 944 turbo took care of all of that. It was beautiful, fast and handled like a dream. I am very intrigued by those that got the LS swap. Again, thank you!
I own an ‘87 944 Turbo with same Guards Red and phone dial wheels; 15,000 original miles. Has the rear wiper delete. ‘87 was first year of dual airbags as the ‘86 has a flat steering wheel. And yes, sunroof can be lifted out, hence the hatches Doug refers to. Great cars and thrilling to see people’s reaction (younger generation) as many weren’t alive when these were roaming the roads. Sixteen Candles made me want a 944 in Guards Red.
As someone who doesn’t have any mechanical knowledge on cars but has a passion for older designs, would this be a good daily driver or good private car ?
Hi Doug, as GTS Car life points out below, there is a special process for completely removing the top that uses all those fasteners and a motor in the rear. There was/is also a special harness in the far back to hold the top once taken out so it is teathered to the trunk floor and doesn't slide around with spirited driving. I still have my 1992 968 midnight blue metallic coupe which has the same top/harness when I bought it new with a more powerful 3 liter 4 than the 944 Turbo with 236HP which it still has at ~ 100kmiles with 100% compression from the vario-cam 11/1 compression set up that runs on 110 octane aviation fuel. Ive enjoyed many miles on HW1 in California since then driving with the top out, targa-likeand open. There is even a big pop up, serrated wind reflector hidden ahead of the fasteners that depolys to damp cabin low frequency ossilations. Its not like you to miss so many quirks and features! LOL All y'all keep up the good work!
Best 944 is the S2, I owned several of them. Almost same power as the Turbo but easier to drive and maintain. Currently own a 968 which is basically a 944S3.
I had a 1990 944 S2, Loved that car. Naturally aspirated felt so fast. The cam on the S2 came in around 3k on the rpm so it felt turboish but still had that torque of a Naturally aspirated car so best of both worlds.
Respectfully disagree. Well disagree on the basis that it's pretty easy to upgrade a few parts on the turbo that makes it MUCH faster than the S2. The S2 were not bad but a well updated 944t is much more fun.
@@VendotronLLC Then if you get a bit silly you can do a 3+ litre 16v turbo and easily make 550whp on pretty low boost but in reality you have to spend on not just the motor then. Brakes, suspension need serious upgrading too.
Yeah, there is a ton that can be done. If being forced to only drive stock, I might chose an S2 or TurboS, but the regular Turbo is the most bang for the buck with even minor mods.@@333pg333
My dad had one of these when I was a kid. I loved the door chime and the way that car smelled. That’s what I remember about it. It was also fun to watch my dad drive it recklessly as a kid.
IMO the two most underrated Porsches are the 924 and the 968. The 924 is a nice sporty car that you can use as a daily driver for 200.000 miles without any problems and the 968 broke so many track records at the time it is completely stunning, and this thing is also extremely reliable.
i have a 928, brilliant daily driver, great on a long cruise, and not a? mummy i have a small penis, impratictable supercar.. i just borrow those from my mates, Porsche 918, great car, and as my owner mate does.. crap it's impractible.. you buy a car to drive it, not sit in some, look how rich i am, museum.. that's jay leno's job.. Still doesn't have one Australian Car in this museum... A9X Maybe? HSV GTS R W1?
I daily drove a 924S and took it on some epic road trips all over the US and can vouch for the driver ergonomics. The reach from the wheel to gearshift is very minimal and the center tunnel makes a naturally perfect armrest - they nailed the design from the very beginning.
This thing handles so nice because of the weight distribution. It has a trans axle type transmission where the mass of the gearbox is just in front of the rear axle.
I always thought the rear diff WAS the transmission. Talk about a quirk! They had a live axle straight off the crank or clutch (not sure) that ran the length of the car, and the rear differential was replaced with the complete transmission. As you stated, this was to achieve better weight distribution, or at least that was the thinking at the time. And although everyone says "wow, what great handling this car has," the idea never really seems to have caught on and been integrated throughout the industry for rear wheel drive cars.
This has always been one of my favorite cars since the '80s...understated and still attainable. Always love the older cars reviews...would love to see a video on the iconic 80s-90s Toyota Truck.
The secondary exclamation mark indicator is actually a good idea. As a technician I can't tell you how many times I've had customers overheat their cars because they don't notice the temperature gauge.
Hey Doug, through some fortunate chain of events, I was able to drive the 944 Turbo and the 944 S2 for a significant amount of time. Blaupunkt was the factory radio so I’m not surprised that was radio in this vehicle. One super interesting quirk I think you missed in this video was that the radio antenna for the 944 is in the windshield! Replacing cracked windshields meant choosing between original factory glass or replacement glass and somehow installing an aftermarket antenna on the body (which would lower resale value).
When I was in high school in the early 2000s the non turbos were around 5k with a reasonable amount of miles. Turbos were around 10k. Inflation and I guess Dougflation is a bitch.
Popping the trunk from the inside was common on most cars by the late 1980s. That said, will always love this Porsche, especially every time I listen to David and David.
The 944 was a dream, especially the Turbo. The back end was big enough and perfect for a proper custom car stereo with 8s and 10s and real amps. So not only could it corner like crazy, it could rattle your eyes in their sockets. Also, pop-up headlights are still the bomb.
@@Maliksamuels33 who cares if he is or isn't. His life, his likes. Im sure ur nit alone with what you like, but I bet there are many who would disagree with you
13:00 afaik the backseats were not to fool the insurance man but the tax man. Oftentimes, cars in this price class were bought by business owners, at least in the European markets. A two-seater would absolutely not pass muster as a company car with the local fiscus. Adding rearseats, however ridiculously small, solved that problem. As a hatchback, with the seats folded forward, it actually has pretty good cargo carrying capacity. I remember a restaurant owner once shoving his entire market run into a 924, including stacking boxes on the shotgun seat.
It's a trope of his videos. In his old videos you'd sometimes hear him say "well there's a backseat so let's see how that goes for me" or "this doesn't have a backseat so we don't have to do that. " it's supposed to be funny but also helps put in perspective how small the backseat is or how pointless it is lmao
I've ridden in the back of a 944 for several miles as well as trips in the rear seat of a Fox body Mustang, an 80s Camaro, and a 96 Corolla. Awful. Doug is a bad ass for doing so over and over. His knee cartilage is probably nil by now.
First car I ever drove was one of my dad's 944s. One thing I'll never forget about these is the sound of the doors opening and closing. Sounds SO solid.
I bought one when it was 14 years old with 248k miles on it. The engine sounded flawless, and I have yet too hear any car sound that solid when closing the door. Absolutely amazing.
If I remember right, all of those latches on the sunroof are because you can remove the entire panel and store in the hatch. Wanted one of these bad in the 90's, and wouldn't mind one today either! Love these classic videos!
I love the 944’s! I owned one years back and it was so much fun to drive. I paid $3,500 in 2002 for my red 1986 944 which was in very good condition. I put in $2,500 in mechanicals and $400 in interior fixes. $6,400 all in or adjusted for inflation $10,540. Cheap fun then and now.
I fell in love with Porsche during my early teen years and the 924 Carrera GT knocked my socks off. I always felt the 944 series was really beautiful as well. Thanks for this review, Doug!
Doug, two things. The sunroof actually was removable, hence all the weird latches. Actually makes a huge hole going over the backseat. 2nd,early 951s did not have airbags standard. I had a 86.5 951 that did not have them. That happened in the years after. Awesome video as always. Love this car and miss mine that I sold on cars and bids a few years ago!
Usual Doug video where is forces himself to laugh at things he has not even researched to find out what they actually do. His videos are becoming more and more unwatchable.
Loved our 944 Turbo, it was a guards red 1987 very similar to this one. Owned between 1999 and 2009 and it had all the desirable mods, cup wheels, turbo s seats, etc. Awesome car for sure.
I just love the old cars videos, because I get to learn more things about classic cars, like this Porsche 944. Now I see why this car is so underrated, but also so awesome. Loved it!
A 1987 Zermatt Silver / Bordeaux 944 Turbo was my first car, in 2006 at age 20. It cost me an arm and a leg to keep on the road, but made for a lot of great stories and solidified my lifelong interest in cars.
It's great to see this 944 getting a little love. Considering these cars are almost 25 to 30 years old, they still look great and have a timeless quality to them. As the owner of a 968, I have always felt that these cars were very misunderstood and underrated. Thanks for sharing! 👊❤
These are insanely underrated! Here in Germany they are also pretty easy to find and for a good Price (as of now) Hope they won't go crazy in Price soon because i've been looking into buying one. I'm glad you're doing a Review on them Doug! Perfect Timing too! Prost & Cheers from the Berchtesgadener Land in the Bavarian Alps
@@joeyjoejoejrshabadu Even 10 years ago, any well-preserved 911 cost at least €40000 in Germany. But 20 years ago, you could get a good 944 Turbo for €10000...
@@sammy674 The 944s and 944 Turbos didnt jump in Price the past Years and plenty are available. Maybe you mean the 928s and the V8 engine ones? Those are definitely rare and harder to get here
The 944 was not as obscure as Doug thinks. He just wasn't born then. I was in college in 1988 and saw plenty of these and the 924 on the roads. Fairly common.
I don't think he means obscure, just sorta overlooked in the car community. It's a rare Porsche that was sold to the public, he knows it's a known entity.
Thank you Mr. DeMuro for bringing back memories. I had one of these and then traded it for the 928GTS. Both entirely bullet proof automobiles. The most reliable vehicles I have ever owned.... with the most unreliable being a SAAB 9.3T....
I love that you uploaded so many awesome older cars in the last few months, especially because you mentioned that these videos arent doing as well and that you would prioritize new cars.
So am I. Though these are older reviews, for the most part. He said this car was sold on his website in February of this year, and though Doug obviously got out there later than that to review it, we don't know how long that was. The foliage there looked sorta late spring/early summerish, so I'd guess this one was made and put in the bag months ago, and now is just when it was scheduled to be published. So it is possible these reviews were filmed prior to Doug deciding to simply no longer review the older cars. Let's hope he changes his mind, but at least for now I am really digging that he is still publishing these sorts of reviews. They're much better than seeing some preproduction press car, which looks and drives and sounds the same as a million other brand new cars, because these older cars have use and wear and you get to see their actual character. Instead of a carefully created and crafted press vehicle that does nothing to stand out anyway, which is pretty much all new vehicles, supercars and hypercars included.
What an amazing car. One of my favourites from the area. It is neglected due to the VW/Audi link and the fact that it has only 4 zylinders. Porsche fixed this with the Boxster, only to have now gone back to 4 zyl engines for the current Boxster (sales dropped massively since then). Hope you can review an S2 or an 968 at some point.
I used to hate this car and thought of it as a lesser Porsche until I watched a video about its history and how it was cobbled together with VW parts yet actually was a good performance car.
My friend had a 924 in High School back in 2004. A 1979 model! All we could do was dream of a 944. That chassis handles incredibly! It could drift balls in the snow ❄️. It had a three speed automatic and was slow as hell, but handled on rails!! Also it had a brand new Maaco paint job, green and blue flaked. That car was special! Thanks for the nostalgia, Doug!
ive owned my 87 944turbo since new with 80000 miles on her. she still gets my heart a beatin as she did when new...best fun or the dollar since meeting my wife 40 years ago this week. cheers.
My old man had this car when I was a kid, and it felt like a rocket to us! My bro and I fit back there just fine - perks of being 4 and 5 😆. He passed a few years ago but thanks for the memories!
Oh yeah, my dad had the Turbo 4cyl Mustang SVO. With not one, but two spoilers. Speaking of which two very unique cars for Doug to review the 1985 Mustang SVO and the Turbo 4 Thunderbird. I wonder if there are any good ones left on the road?
1) They had a TV commercial that was mostly POV driving down the road. The car only appeared right at the end. It was an awesome spot and actually made me stand up and cheer. 2) I got to drive one of these on a test drive with a friend, and it was the most neutral, pleasant car I'd ever been in. So I agree that it is a pleasure to drive.
Great review! I've got that same year/model sitting in my garage now, surprisingly with less miles (17k). I was 8 years old when my dad bought it. Even at that price I don't think I could get rid of it. Pro Tip, the sunroof comes off, and it's such a pain I've only done it once!
it's absolutely the most responsive car I have ever driven. I miss mine, it was $175 and after many repairs it started after a rats nest was removed form the air filter box. i was 15 and I almost got arrested for trying to race an undercover with NO tags, NO ID, No insurance or registration.. broken windshield and seats that were not really installed just sitting there. I was going to a friends house at night.. good memories.
A little note on the rear wiper: you really, really need to make absolutely sure the space below the motor is clear before shutting the glass trunk. If there's a large enough item place directly below the motor, the whole glass will pop out of the rubber frame!
Good review, Doug. One addition (seen on the owner's manual cover) is there was also the 944 S. 16v head added to bring hp up to 188. Many journalists in period preferred the S to the turbo.
I love all the front engined Porsche's. I remember reading about these when they were new in all the popular car magazines. This was a very common color combination for 944's, Guards red over black. Many of these suffered cracked dashboards as a result. Thanks.
it Beats all Your.. Supercar wanks, in your Meseum.. it is a car that you drive everyday, enjoy an have fun.. Not a shitbox million dollar, mummy I have a Small penis crap, you have in the Mesuem, that as about as practical, as a 3 cup bra... my mate owns a 1936bRolls Royce, the Wife Drives the Kids to School in it... Not sitting in some collectors car, poofter museum, Ameican look how rich i am crap..
The sunroof switch operates differently with the key on. You can remove the roof with the key in the first position by retracting the lifting legs and undoing the front latches. There would’ve been a roof storage bag in the bag cargo area.
Thanks for reviewing my car's 1-year newer twin Doug! That sunroof panel is completely removable btw, hence the latches. The panel lifts out and can stow in the trunk with a bag that was included.
13:00 Actually Doug, do your research. Rear 'seats' in cars like this were used to get around the extra taxes in some countries, placed on 2-seat passenger cars - sports cars.
One of my teachers has a 944. It’s like this bronze color. Inside and out is unfathomably clean, not a crease to be seen on the leather. With us both being car guys I find him to be one of my favorite teachers. Very cool guy.
I really enjoyed mine. I drove 100 miles each way to my office back then and the 944 was a pleasure. Very comfortable, surprisingly easy on gas on the highway, and range per tank was great. I thought it was the perfect grand touring car. I see others have already pointed out about the sunroof being removable. It even came with a matching Porsche scripted cover to keep it nice when removed. I was watching this thinking "How the hell doesn't he know this?".
Back in the 80s the 944 and 928 were my favorite Porsches. I thought the 911 was a relic from the past that Porsche continued to build for some reason. I like it a lot more now of course as teenagers aren’t the best judge of good things, are they?
@@rauserbegins5850 I still love the 944/928 too, it’s just the 911 is getting the love as well 😁 even if, cabin aside, I’m actually not too keen on the latest 992 series.
I'm 55 and wanted this 944 Turbo. A few years later I did buy the 928S4. The 928 was so fun but a bit hard to work on as the warranties expired quickly back then.
I have driven a ‘88 naturally aspirated 944, and even though there’s no power, it was still a blast to drive. This exact car is my dream car. edit: my mom had this 944 my junior year in high school, and I loved the looks it got when I left the student parking lot. I loved that car. That was last year btw, and even people who nothing about cars asked me about it.
As Tom Cruise said, "Porsche there is no substitute! " He was dead on. When I was a kid this was my dream car. I was about 19 when I picked my 87 944 Turbo white over cream up for $8900.00 with 98k miles. My dad was so pissed he through all my clothes in it and said you can sleep in it.......I did the first night till my mom made him let me back in the house. Knowing nothing about cars evertime I broke and that was often with me beating on it, I had it towed it to the closest Porsche certifed mechanic. He replaced the turbo, transmission numberous elecrical issues not to mention, three computers on that car. It was located in the passenger floor board under the carpet, when the sunroof drain clogged up the water diverted into that footwell shorting the start sequence. All they had to do is dry out and they worked again come to find out. He probabbly sold me my same one over and over after I bought and brought him the first one. I bought this in 1994 when the bigger your stereo system was the more the girls wanted to test out your bass and sit in the seats. So as impatient as I was, I had a 10k dollar stero system installed, made up of a state of the art Alpine motorized three disc indash changer and large LED display, (so bulky the radio brain had to be mounted under the seat (lol) mb quartz componets for the mids and highs with 2 Alpine V12 Amps mounted to the custom carpeted and plexiglass box that housed my JL audio sub. When MTV chose their location for several years to tape spring break it was only 45 minutes from my house in Panama City Beach where my parents owned two condo's on the beach, and the trifecta of owning a Porsche, created a lifetime of memories that most people would never experience. I am humbled and appreciative as a 47 year old man that understands what I once took for granted. Those were the best days of my life. Did I understand Doug to say that car SOLD for more than the sticker was when it was new? For God sake a 930 sticked for about $65k back then. Now I think I am going to be sick, At 21 years old I removed the Alpine system and sold the car for something like $4k
I'm also sticking to your reviews exactly because of these classic gems. Not only from Porsche or BMW, but also beasts like Suburban, K5 Blazer, Grand Wagoneer or Viper. Perhaps not the sexiest things on the road (except that Viper), but they are like time machines and sometimes, it's exactly nostalgia you need to reset your mind and forget how crappy modern cars can be.
These classic car reviews are awesome as always, Doug. As you've now kinda set a precedent of sorts, I would reason that you've just GOTTA now do a proper review of the MacDaddy of all classic Porsches: The legendary 930 Turbo! Thanks again for a fantastic review!
If Doug is going to try out the Widowmaker, he's advised to do it on a track hired for the day, where he won't risk hitting a concrete bridge pillar at speed. This car has *very* individual handling characteristics, which require it to be treated with a LOT of respect. This is a car you drive in order to teach yourself *restraint* , because if you drive it like a hooligan, it bites *hard* if you make mistakes. You only have to experience the tail skip out on one of these once, and you *never* want to experience that again. Especially given that it's powered by a 330 BHP turbocharged engine that in the day, was a fire breathing monster of a power unit, with, of course, the infamous 1980s turbo lag in spades. This is a car you buy, in order to spend five years learning how to handle it properly before trying anything gung ho. But if you do that, you learn skills that will serve you well in many other cars. Boy racers need not apply.
@@Calilasseia I'd respectfully agree that - if abused - the 930 can bite HARD and even fatally. However, I'd venture to reason that its infamous Widowmaker reputation is extremely over-exaggerated. The car is absolutely rock-solid on a straight and can still brake extraordinarily well even by today's standards. The chaos ensues when one naively abuses the brake and/or boost around bends - notably when entering corners. I've only ever fishtailed in the car once as a passenger, because the driver overrevved and gunned it from a stoplight while making a right turn, causing the car to violently pendulum out of line. And no doubt that was a hair-raising experience I'll never forget nor want to ever repeat. But that situation was unequivocally the driver's fault, and could have been easily avoided. I've personally put many addictive boost-happy miles on the car for years without incident or any sense of control loss, because I respect and remain cognisant of its tail-happy uh, "quirks and features" 😊 and I simply just don't "go there", and I'm nowhere close to possessing the skills required to truly drive the car to its limits as you properly suggested. I'm confident to wager that Mr. Demuro is among those who know better, understands the car's abilities and infamous reputation better than most of us, and would have no problem driving the car on regular roads without incident. I'd even guess that he'd find issue with its massive turbo-lag below 3000RPM, which is more reminiscent of a first-generation Volkswagen Beetle at that point...following which all Hell breaks loose, which is what makes the car still oh, so addictively fun! Just respect those aforementioned rules of physics and you'll be fine! 👍
@@frankspatone Point on. The 930 with a G5 gearbox was my first car I ever owned. Crazy as I am now broke carwise but at least I did profit from selling it. I saved the car on wet track doing 100 miles/h. Maybe it was due to pre practicing lift-off on a dry track thanks to our local Porsche Club track days. All in all it is not that scary once you dare to use the throttle. If the car wanted to kill its driver, I certainly would not be able to save the car in mid curve doing what I just explained.
I owned a black 44 with the 2.7 engine, I loved looking in the doors mirrors at those wheel arches, it’s the only car I’ve owned that made me feel special. Whenever I saw another 944 on the road you’d always get a wave. It drove well and was comfortable, the guy I bought it from had mixed feelings selling it, he had just bought 964 Targa and said that he felt tired after driving home on his commute compared to the 44. What I don’t miss are the running costs, my first service bill was £1400! I nearly passed out. I owned the car for 3 years, I bought it for £7500 back in 1999, over that time spent around the same again on various things including a new clutch, engine mounts and hrs of labour. There’s no such thing as a cheap Porsche. Would love to own one again, the S2 in Guards Red with the turbo wheels, a bit like the one you showed. As for a Turbo…no I’m no that brave.
Always loved these Porsches. 924, 928, 944 - all 80's icons that don't get enough exposure. So much character, from the cassette storage to the rear bumper label to the "backseats", it warms my heart to see it reviewed. Wouldn't mind having one of these someday...
Keep doing old car reviews, PLEASE. No one can afford new vehicles nowadays. So please don't be deterred by snobs when you do clips of old vehicles. Keep it up thanks Doug!
Pretty comprehensive review, thanks, few minor errors Turbo sill trims are aftermarket. As pointed out by many here - the Sunroof comes out and there should be a bag for it in the back (later cars had straps) along with some clips on the car for the bag to attach too. Those unleaded fuel only labels are amazingly robust! Knees fit either side of the front seats so smaller adults can fit in there for short journeys, as car seats for the back are tricky my wife (5'6") has done some fairly long journeys and later 944s did have 3 point rear belts. 0-60 is not really its forte - you feel like you are abusing it getting it away quickly from a standstill 30 - 70mph or 70 - 130mph it is much happier! I agree the 944 is very underrated, especially as with relatively mild tuning 300 to 320BHP is possible - I have surprised many people on trackdays in mine!
I have a 1990 coupe (for about 20 years -modified) and a 1991 turbo cabriolet (10 years - standard), short video of the cab here ruclips.net/video/0cSOPuFgRyA/видео.html
Doug is the type of guy who goes to Boston to see a Kansas concert and Kansas to see a Boston concet. His favorite song is "More than a feeling is just dust in the wind".
Doug, I owned a mid 80’s 5 speed 944 with the same roof… once it’s open to the “vent” position, those latches can be flipped and the entire roof panel lifted out and stored In the hatch. Almost a targa roof. It was my daily driver for 6 years and so much fun!
I'm really shocked he didn't mention that. Also the little hump in the trunk helps secure the roof In back.
I had to look that up... didn't seem right when he said that's all it did.
I came here to post this about the roof. Such an oversight by Doug come on 🤦♂️
I wondered about those.I thought Motorweek removed the top in their review way back when.
Super jealous! Love that car 🔥
Hey Doug, the sunroofs on 944's actually can lift out, creating a large, almost Targa-like feel. As for the ignition being on the right, that is how Porsche did it on all transaxle Porsches, the top of the line 928 included. They were intent on changing themselves away from the old VW Beetle based 356 and 911 models. The 924 was actually supposed to be a VW, not an Audi, but it was set for an Audi engine. The 944 benefitted from the same Porsche design and build quality as all their other models, and really holds up well. It is solid, sturdy and reliable. I have a 1985.5 with 55,000 miles and still on the original clutch, that looks like a showroom new car!
sadly even though it's a great car this is one of the worst doug videos with that many inaccuracies
Yeah I'm not sure how he missed it, if you look at some of those latches, it's clear that its supposed to come off. C'mon Doug! You're better than this.
Why remove it when you can pop it an inch 🤣
Thank you for the corrections! Was excited to watch Doug's first video about a car I actually own, but was sad to see how much he got wrong. I have an '87 Turbo with over 160k miles myself.
Good catches.
We love the classic Doug videos! Old cars are what keep me here. Never forget your base!
Exactly
Same. Modern cars are so boring
^^^^^^^^^
Yes but he gets far more views on newer cars. It takes a lot to do videos. I'd understand if he focused only on newer cars when they get 5x more views. Man has a family and has to prioritize.
Agreed. Couldn't care less about the modern supercars and trucks. They're all generic copy-paste stuff.
I'm 17 and I bought my 944 base in January for $2500 non running, after some parts and wrenching I managed to get it roadworthy and have no issues to date. My car is Kalahari beige Metallic over dark brown interior, I have since recovered the seats to a slightly lighter brown colour and have made several upgrades to improve the car. My favorite thing about it is just how it feels when driving it, I enjoy the handling and I find that it has enough power for its size
I've had three base 944s, two turbos (951s) - and 2 968s.... Or what some will call the 944 S3. The days of any of these being affordable are long gone, unless you find a seller that doesn't know ;). But they are an awesome car, although the base ones aren't exactly powerful, but the handling and the driving position and just the structural integrity is next level. The way the doors closed is literally a benchmark for every other automaker. And the design is truly timeless.
Just some forewarnings if you're thinking about buying one. Absolutely positively make sure that the timing belt/ water pump job has been taken care of. If you don't have recent records of it being done, budget for it and do not skip it!
If you're not familiar with Porsche and you're not a competent wrencher, make sure to get a PPI by a shop that knows these. They're incredibly robust cars but as you can imagine the parts can be expensive.
With the back seat folded down you can literally stick two bikes in the back!
As long as you don't drive like a nutcase they get excellent gas mileage (they only weigh around 2,700 pounds)
With the massive moonroof out it's almost like having a convertible!
If you insist on getting the 944/turbo, the one year 1986 model with the updates and nicer interior also gives you the much nicer offset on the wheels (pre abs). The phone dials looks so much better with the lip....imho (I think most would agree)
And finally in my opinion if you do want the penultimate of this series of cars, the final 968 with the massive 3L, 4 cylinder was rated at 240 horsepower and with a six-speed could hit mid-fives 0 to 60, so they go pretty well. And they didn't have the massive turbo lag of the 951, although that can be charming in its own way.
Find a good one, get it up to snuff, take care of it, and it'll be money in the bank!
I almost bought a 924 in 2007 for $2k. I'll probably never see that price again.
I had an '86 N/A in the 2000's, and I got a ton of parts from 944online, seems like that site is still up to this day but the prices are way higher.
I drove multiple modded 944 turbos,modded 944 turbo S(88-89’) , 944 turbo S 2.7 stroker,944 turbo with 3 liter block, 968 3liter turbo ,968 turbo s replica ( 3liter block , 2.7 head, turbo) super fun drives , some of the best experiences of my life.
I also owned a red 968 cab 6 spd for 3 years.
The 968 is definitely the best for your buck , in terms of performance , looks, handling , exhaust note, reliability.the interior is nicer, updated , also has 6spd, updated steering rack(makes big difference). For pure performance if you wanted to mod the 944 turbo is your boy. But for regular city driving and just overall enjoyable driving the 968 will do it better. The 944 turbo has no low end power, so you have to wait for boost. Both are excellent choices though , coming from someone whose driven hundreds of these 944’s, maybe around only 10 968’s.
Although it is not designated with any Badges it should with its vin/ car identity. The Turbo “ S” would be the one to get .
The Turbo “S” was released 88-89’ , every 89 is a Turbo “ S” but not every 88’ is a Turbo “ S” .
The Turbo “S” is worth twice as much as any other 944 Turbo. It came equipped and upgraded with fully adjustable coilovers, larger sway bars front and rear, larger brake calipers , larger spindles and hubs that allow for upgrades to 996 brakes, it also had an upgraded larger Turbo, which boosted power up to 247hp, up from 225. It also had an updated transmission with LSD , different gear ratio and hardened 5th gear.
In the interior is also had upgrades , the door panels were 10 speaker door panels and they had tweeters in the top corner of door panel and the rest under the arm rests.
The gauge cluster had speedometer to 180 mph vs 160 mph.
Practically a track ready 944 turbo.
There’s alot to cover on these cars and Doug barely scratched the surface.
The 89’ 944 “S” was 2.7 head on 2.5 block , with different cam, and it was around 209 hp.
The 89-91 944 “S2” was had 944 turbo look front and back , but also came in a cabriolet, it came with 16v ,3.0l 4cyl, 220 hp, it also had different transmission with shorter gear ratios, some had LSD..it had the 944 turbo “S” 10 speaker door panel interior as well.
my aunt will sell me hers for 3k. It just needs the engine thermostat replaced and some new tires
I had an '85 (N/A) 26 years ago and an '86 (951) about 6 years ago, love them all!
Thanks for continuing to review the old and weird stuff! These are your best reviews, Doug!
He’s reviewed everything new, all he has left is older cars really. So I’m sure he’s doing it out of necessity, especially since the car is on his site being sold.
Love seeing these older cars just to get a feel for the history
These cars have shot up in value and hyping them up helps auction sites... Doug owns one of those sites. ;)
AGREE 💯💯
@@sam0wings Well, not really. What about the Jaguar XE S ? (5 second 0-100kph) Or the Mercedes C43 - those are crazy 'Daily Drivers' any petrolhead would love, fast and their engines sounding amazing and fully refined.
Not everything has to be an ''exxxotticcc sporrrts carrr!1''
I used to love this car! I remember buying a raffle ticket for a 944 when i was 13, hoping and praying I’d win it and dreaming of the day i turned 16 so i could drive it. Still see them around once in a while, and still a beautiful car.
I own a 1986 944 (naturally aspirated). These days it's a lot of fun to see how people react to the car. There are many young people who have never seen one in the flesh! Teenagers will stop whatever they are doing to check it out. I've seen people make detours across parking lots to stop and look at it. Its design has passed the test of time.
don't blame them, i'm a teenager and this has so much more beauty and a far more unique design than any modern car
It looked fairly modern for the time, with only a few 80's design elements like the pop up headlights (which are cool).
my father had the same model, white color, was the second car i drove in my life, 1 year after i've taken my license (only 5 years ago). That was the car that made me a car enthusiast to this days, still heartbroken because we had to sell it.... it has been replaced with a 2006 SLK but it doesn't feel the same for me: once you go Porsche you will never come back >.<
I've promised myself i will buy it back one day...
had an '83 944 NA that I loved. caught water in the intake, hydrolocked the engine, had to total it as the car was already a savage title.
I'll take "Shit that didn't happen" for $500, Alex.
Small corrections: the door sills badging isn't oem. The sunroof is also completely removal if you insert and turn the key to position 1, then use the down switch to retract the rare latches completely into the body, allowing you to completely remove the sunroof once you uncouple the front latches pictured in the video. The armrest in the center console isn't always a cassette rack. Some cars have it some cars don't.
I’m 26 and just bought an ‘89 Turbo with 250 hp today. My entry I to the Porsche classics world and it drove like butter. So looking forward to many many years with this gem
Congratulations 🎉 Hope your enjoying it!
Thanks for continuing with the old stuff. We’re moving to a place where every car looks and feels the same. The old designs are exciting to see!
100%
Great review doug, thanks for bringing some love to the 944. However you missed the 944’s best party trick! That sunroof panel pops out with the key in the first click position and the sunroof button held and then of course un doing the latches; 80% of the roof comes out
I was going to say, I seem to remember the sunroof going in a bag in the trunk.
If you push the sunroof switch forward it unlatches and lets you remove the sunroof to stow in the hatch (inside the little leather accessory bag). So in essence it was like a giant targa roof.
I came here to say the same thing. I used to regularly remove mine and stow it in the far back _from the driver's seat_.
@@Nostalgic-Mechanic He's too busy calling it "quirky" and not modern to actually read it. Furthermore, a spiral binding isn't Quirky, its logical (the book lays flat)
Anyone who has watched Sixteen Candles should know this. :) I do like how that comes off. And it seems to come off pretty easily. I would have liked to own one of these. The power part of it is silly though. Would just rather have the manual latches.
@Brad C At least with the new cars there's a good chance that anything he misses won't be known to the viewers so he's safe from that sort of critique.
How did he miss the most quarky feature of the entire car?!
I had a 1988 944, sadly not the turbo model. But it was, by far, the best handling car I have ever owned. I loved it. The next car I bought was a 2003 Mercedes Benz SL 500 AMG that had 4 times as much power, but I still prefer the looks of the 944. It was just gorgeous. If I still had it today, I would have completely redone everything, including replacing the motor with an LS-1 swap, redone the brakes and suspension, redone the exhaust and cooling system. I own a 2017 911 now, but I still prefer my old 944 with their pop up headlights. I miss the 80's!
Please don’t stop reviewing these gems, your variety is what we need on the platform
0-60 in under 6 seconds with a mere 220hp and Doug says that’s reasonable…
It was excellent in the ‘80s and it’s still excellent today.
It's alright
I feel with today's mainstream EVs, 0-60 numbers have lost all meaning…
it's no eagle talon
For comparison, my 2016 Focus ST with 252 hp does 0-60 in 5.8 seconds, so calling it reasonable understates its quickness.
It's not 300 HP, and it's probably not the lightest car ether, so it's ok.
An important part of these cars was the rear transaxle, allowing the engine to be mounted further back and giving it a 50/50 weight distribution and amazing handling. Future versions of this car were even better: 944 S2, 968, 968 CS, 968 Turbo, 968 Turbo RS, etc.
Brilliant observation Mr. Corwin!
I love transaxle cars. People truly don't understand how this affects the balance of a car
I wouldn't trade a 951 for a 944 S2 or 968...but maybe a 968 Turbo. lol
Love when you do the old cars. I can dig on some of the newer cars if they're interesting but most of them are boring and I turned the video off halfway. But my eyes are glued to just about any older car review
Oh man, I've been waiting for this for a while now. I know this Porsche 944 all too well because my father was the previous owner of this exact vehicle. Here are a bunch of points about the vehicle:
•He had it since 2014, but sold it on Cars and Bids as he's winding down with age.
•This car won Best Porsche at a local car show in Florida I went to with him.
•Never knew about the light in the key or the trip odometer reset button.
•It's in excellent condition because my father is METICULOUS about his cars (he's had several nice cars). If so much as even a tiny, insignificant scratch was spotted, back into the shop it went (which is where it spent most of its time or in storage).
•He put the Blaupunkt stereo in after he got the car, I don't think it came with the car. No he never used the cassette storage he used a cassette adapter for his phone.
•Doug is not exaggerating about the backseats. They're ridiculously tiny, I'm shorter than he is (5'9") and even I couldn't fit back there. Why Porsche put them in I have no clue.
•The spare tire only looks like a spare tire in the academic sense, it is round and made of rubber.
•I believe the current owner of this car told my father that this car drives better than a Ferrari (I want to say a Testarossa). Having ridden in it, it's not bad but the seats are rather stiff.
•My father now just owns a red Mercedes Benz convertible, a newer white Porsche 911 and a Tesla Model S Plaid. Yes he did show off the acceleration of the Plaid and it is INSANE.
Glad to see Doug enjoyed it. Also my dad who's a Doug Demuro fan watched the video and thinks Doug was fair with his score of the car.
The Testarossa is not a great car (looks aside) so I'm not surprised. The back seats are there to reduce insurance costs, like on most 2+2 cars.
Edit: Well I guess I'm wrong about the insurance thing!
He done this car before so he reviewed it two times
I think the tiny backseat is for child safety seats. Also, if you want to talk tiny backseat, have you ever seen a gen 2 RX-7 2+2?
@@kevinmitchell766 just as worthless as the seats in a frs/brz ,,just doesn't make sense why they don't just give more trunk space in all cars with these unusable back seats
Wow.
one thing not mentioned is how confidence-inspiring the chassis/weight set up was. i've raced and instructed for 914, 911, and 944s with the Porsche Owners Club and the 944 was so well balanced. It would gently oversteer on power with no drama on lift (unlike 911 or 914). really a fun car and they could make tons of HP with mods because of the turbo.
My dream car in the 80s. I think I test drove 20 of them all over the Rhineland. Especially when I showed up in a suit and tie and played the "yuppy". Sometimes they even let me take one out by myself for a few hours because i had to attend an important business meeting in Cologne or Duesseldorf. Young me on the Autobahn......Oh how I miss the 80s.
My first Porsche was a 944 I bought in Germany for $3000. I always wanted a turbo, but never managed to get one. They are GREAT cars to drive. Other things to know about the 944:
1. Do not reset the trip odometer while moving, it will strip the gear inside the gauge cluster.
2. Do not attempt to mount your sub amp in front of the spare tire. You fill find the gas tank.
3. Changing the clutch takes at least 15 hours.
4. The 944 will fit at least 1 Cisco 5509 chassis switch OR an armoire if you fold the back seat down.
5. The sunroof is removable, as others have pointed out.
What else is neat about the car?
The only car I know where the spoiler has a drainage system.
I have one since 2003,love it!
My addition: the rear glass is the most expensive part of the car, tagged at almost 5000 Euro.
Thank you, thank you! This was one of my dream cars back in the day. This car deserves so much more love than it gets! In the 80's, IMHO, the 911 looked like a bug-eyed monster that had sketchy driving dynamics. The 944 was sleek and had perfect handling, but it was slow. The 944 turbo took care of all of that. It was beautiful, fast and handled like a dream. I am very intrigued by those that got the LS swap. Again, thank you!
I own an ‘87 944 Turbo with same Guards Red and phone dial wheels; 15,000 original miles. Has the rear wiper delete. ‘87 was first year of dual airbags as the ‘86 has a flat steering wheel. And yes, sunroof can be lifted out, hence the hatches Doug refers to. Great cars and thrilling to see people’s reaction (younger generation) as many weren’t alive when these were roaming the roads. Sixteen Candles made me want a 944 in Guards Red.
I had one that was guards red, in my humble opinion, absolutely the most beautiful color of all. :-)
Great movie and great car, Porsche there is no substitute!
No airbags on European cars...
As someone who doesn’t have any mechanical knowledge on cars but has a passion for older designs, would this be a good daily driver or good private car ?
Hi Doug, as GTS Car life points out below, there is a special process for completely removing the top that uses all those fasteners and a motor in the rear. There was/is also a special harness in the far back to hold the top once taken out so it is teathered to the trunk floor and doesn't slide around with spirited driving. I still have my 1992 968 midnight blue metallic coupe which has the same top/harness when I bought it new with a more powerful 3 liter 4 than the 944 Turbo with 236HP which it still has at ~ 100kmiles with 100% compression from the vario-cam 11/1 compression set up that runs on 110 octane aviation fuel. Ive enjoyed many miles on HW1 in California since then driving with the top out, targa-likeand open. There is even a big pop up, serrated wind reflector hidden ahead of the fasteners that depolys to damp cabin low frequency ossilations. Its not like you to miss so many quirks and features! LOL All y'all keep up the good work!
Best 944 is the S2, I owned several of them. Almost same power as the Turbo but easier to drive and maintain. Currently own a 968 which is basically a 944S3.
I had a 1990 944 S2, Loved that car. Naturally aspirated felt so fast. The cam on the S2 came in around 3k on the rpm so it felt turboish but still had that torque of a Naturally aspirated car so best of both worlds.
Respectfully disagree. Well disagree on the basis that it's pretty easy to upgrade a few parts on the turbo that makes it MUCH faster than the S2. The S2 were not bad but a well updated 944t is much more fun.
@@333pg333Agreed. A simple chip and removing the cat gets ya something like 50hp, and it’s easy to go much higher from there.
@@VendotronLLC Then if you get a bit silly you can do a 3+ litre 16v turbo and easily make 550whp on pretty low boost but in reality you have to spend on not just the motor then. Brakes, suspension need serious upgrading too.
Yeah, there is a ton that can be done. If being forced to only drive stock, I might chose an S2 or TurboS, but the regular Turbo is the most bang for the buck with even minor mods.@@333pg333
My dad had one of these when I was a kid. I loved the door chime and the way that car smelled. That’s what I remember about it. It was also fun to watch my dad drive it recklessly as a kid.
Sounds like good memories
same - my brother and I rode in the trunk numerous times...
@@nhr27 there is backseats in these. I rode in my dads
My dad had a 944 S2 for a bit! I remember the key with its weedy little built-in light.
That sunroof is removable. that is the reason for all those latches ✌
IMO the two most underrated Porsches are the 924 and the 968. The 924 is a nice sporty car that you can use as a daily driver for 200.000 miles without any problems and the 968 broke so many track records at the time it is completely stunning, and this thing is also extremely reliable.
This is the most ergonomic and modern looking 80's car I've ever seen.
i have a 928, brilliant daily driver, great on a long cruise, and not a? mummy i have a small penis, impratictable supercar.. i just borrow those from my mates, Porsche 918, great car, and as my owner mate does.. crap it's impractible.. you buy a car to drive it, not sit in some, look how rich i am, museum.. that's jay leno's job..
Still doesn't have one Australian Car in this museum... A9X Maybe? HSV GTS R W1?
The interior still holds up pretty well aesthetically today. VERY modern for it’s time.
I daily drove a 924S and took it on some epic road trips all over the US and can vouch for the driver ergonomics. The reach from the wheel to gearshift is very minimal and the center tunnel makes a naturally perfect armrest - they nailed the design from the very beginning.
@@graemejohnson9025 you schizo dude
Thats an interesting comment in an era where modern cars tend to have poor ergonomics.
This thing handles so nice because of the weight distribution. It has a trans axle type transmission where the mass of the gearbox is just in front of the rear axle.
Its not just weight distribution. An MB w140 S500 also had 50/50. It was no sports car :)
Actually, the suspension is quite soft.
I always thought the rear diff WAS the transmission. Talk about a quirk! They had a live axle straight off the crank or clutch (not sure) that ran the length of the car, and the rear differential was replaced with the complete transmission. As you stated, this was to achieve better weight distribution, or at least that was the thinking at the time. And although everyone says "wow, what great handling this car has," the idea never really seems to have caught on and been integrated throughout the industry for rear wheel drive cars.
This has always been one of my favorite cars since the '80s...understated and still attainable. Always love the older cars reviews...would love to see a video on the iconic 80s-90s Toyota Truck.
I wanna see a Super Edition or Supercharged MR2 honestly
You have great taste!
Probably less attainable after this video lol
i wanna see him review a soarer/sc coupe
Ay u won the real Doug demuro giveaway 😂
The secondary exclamation mark indicator is actually a good idea. As a technician I can't tell you how many times I've had customers overheat their cars because they don't notice the temperature gauge.
@Doug Demuro: Love modern front Engine (1982-now) Porsches. All hail the 928 and 944.
Hey Doug, through some fortunate chain of events, I was able to drive the 944 Turbo and the 944 S2 for a significant amount of time. Blaupunkt was the factory radio so I’m not surprised that was radio in this vehicle. One super interesting quirk I think you missed in this video was that the radio antenna for the 944 is in the windshield! Replacing cracked windshields meant choosing between original factory glass or replacement glass and somehow installing an aftermarket antenna on the body (which would lower resale value).
1983 had the antenna on the fender
Whenever Doug reviews a car the prices always rise😥 I have been wanting a non turbo for years
When I was in high school in the early 2000s the non turbos were around 5k with a reasonable amount of miles. Turbos were around 10k. Inflation and I guess Dougflation is a bitch.
That ship has sailed buddy. 951s have been going for stupid money for the past few years (like most everything else).
@@aarrrrrimapirate I bought a burnt out one for $3,000, and insurance gave me $18k when it got totalled
@@augustsawzak5401 your insurance provider looking at this comment like 😤😤👿😠
It’s why I hope he never reviews a Corrado 😥
Popping the trunk from the inside was common on most cars by the late 1980s. That said, will always love this Porsche, especially every time I listen to David and David.
The 944 was a dream, especially the Turbo. The back end was big enough and perfect for a proper custom car stereo with 8s and 10s and real amps. So not only could it corner like crazy, it could rattle your eyes in their sockets. Also, pop-up headlights are still the bomb.
Are you between the ages of 55-65?
@@Maliksamuels33 who cares if he is or isn't.
His life, his likes.
Im sure ur nit alone with what you like, but I bet there are many who would disagree with you
8s and 10s lol.
i bet youre the kind of guy that thinks 8s and 10s "sound tighter" and "play snappy bass" lmfao.
@@OxBlitzkriegxO yeah, physics sucks, eh? Turns out heavier masses require more time to move given the same power.
@@Maliksamuels33 that’s question someone between the ages of 5 and 15 would ask 🤣
13:00 afaik the backseats were not to fool the insurance man but the tax man. Oftentimes, cars in this price class were bought by business owners, at least in the European markets. A two-seater would absolutely not pass muster as a company car with the local fiscus. Adding rearseats, however ridiculously small, solved that problem.
As a hatchback, with the seats folded forward, it actually has pretty good cargo carrying capacity. I remember a restaurant owner once shoving his entire market run into a 924, including stacking boxes on the shotgun seat.
I love my 86 951 / all stock,88k miles. Cool to see the 944 get some attention!
I feel like Doug getting in the back seat of cars like this is like a service to the car community…a “ take one for the team” if you will!
I always feel super weird watching him go ass first into the back seat. Who the F enters the back seat like that?!!?
@@filip000 Doug has the agility and athletic ability of a 80 year old paraplegic so that’s the best he’s got
It's a trope of his videos. In his old videos you'd sometimes hear him say "well there's a backseat so let's see how that goes for me" or "this doesn't have a backseat so we don't have to do that. " it's supposed to be funny but also helps put in perspective how small the backseat is or how pointless it is lmao
I've ridden in the back of a 944 for several miles as well as trips in the rear seat of a Fox body Mustang, an 80s Camaro, and a 96 Corolla. Awful.
Doug is a bad ass for doing so over and over. His knee cartilage is probably nil by now.
First car I ever drove was one of my dad's 944s. One thing I'll never forget about these is the sound of the doors opening and closing. Sounds SO solid.
I bought one when it was 14 years old with 248k miles on it. The engine sounded flawless, and I have yet too hear any car sound that solid when closing the door. Absolutely amazing.
@@erichenry1472 Right!? There's just something about that "ka-chunk"...lol
I know right? Just like the W461 onwards G-Wagens and the 911s, not to mention, the 1980 Chevy Chevette.
@@brianlee9233 Definitely don't make em like they used to!
@@brianlee9233 Well...I guess the G is kinda the exception to that...lol
This is one of the best Porsches ever build in my opinion
My dad had one when I was a kid, will forever be my favorite car of all time.
This was my first Porsche. So many fond memories with this car., and speeding tickets too! Thank you, Doug, for reviewing this underrated classic.
If I remember right, all of those latches on the sunroof are because you can remove the entire panel and store in the hatch. Wanted one of these bad in the 90's, and wouldn't mind one today either!
Love these classic videos!
I was shocked to when he missed that. The sunroof was a huge opening, almost Targa like and very pleasant to drive with it off.
I love the 944’s! I owned one years back and it was so much fun to drive. I paid $3,500 in 2002 for my red 1986 944 which was in very good condition. I put in $2,500 in mechanicals and $400 in interior fixes. $6,400 all in or adjusted for inflation $10,540. Cheap fun then and now.
Not a sole came here hoping to find out if Doan owed one, why would you think anyone would care what you do this isn't your channel
@@slowery43 I take it you’re jealous you didn’t buy a 944
@@slowery43 I'm interested to hear owners' experiences.
This car will always be a classic no one ever forgets
I fell in love with Porsche during my early teen years and the 924 Carrera GT knocked my socks off. I always felt the 944 series was really beautiful as well. Thanks for this review, Doug!
Has a place in my heart, When I got out of the Army I got a used 944 Turbo [ black] loved it, my with would have been the 944 Turbo S Great Video
Doug, two things. The sunroof actually was removable, hence all the weird latches. Actually makes a huge hole going over the backseat.
2nd,early 951s did not have airbags standard. I had a 86.5 951 that did not have them. That happened in the years after.
Awesome video as always. Love this car and miss mine that I sold on cars and bids a few years ago!
Usual Doug video where is forces himself to laugh at things he has not even researched to find out what they actually do. His videos are becoming more and more unwatchable.
Gottem! Sunroof is removable. Would love to see Doug trying to remove it though... might take a few minutes(hours) 😅
Loved our 944 Turbo, it was a guards red 1987 very similar to this one. Owned between 1999 and 2009 and it had all the desirable mods, cup wheels, turbo s seats, etc. Awesome car for sure.
I just love the old cars videos, because I get to learn more things about classic cars, like this Porsche 944. Now I see why this car is so underrated, but also so awesome. Loved it!
A 1987 Zermatt Silver / Bordeaux 944 Turbo was my first car, in 2006 at age 20. It cost me an arm and a leg to keep on the road, but made for a lot of great stories and solidified my lifelong interest in cars.
Had my naturally aspirated 3.0l 944s2 for a year now and I absoloutely love this car
It's great to see this 944 getting a little love. Considering these cars are almost 25 to 30 years old, they still look great and have a timeless quality to them. As the owner of a 968, I have always felt that these cars were very misunderstood and underrated. Thanks for sharing! 👊❤
These cars are definitely over 30 mate there from the 80s it's 2023
i was offered a 944 na for a grand 5 years ago.
Decent condition, recent TÜV inspection, not rusty.
These things now go for like 15.
god damnit.
These are insanely underrated! Here in Germany they are also pretty easy to find and for a good Price (as of now) Hope they won't go crazy in Price soon because i've been looking into buying one.
I'm glad you're doing a Review on them Doug! Perfect Timing too!
Prost & Cheers from the Berchtesgadener Land in the Bavarian Alps
@@joeyjoejoejrshabadu Even 10 years ago, any well-preserved 911 cost at least €40000 in Germany. But 20 years ago, you could get a good 944 Turbo for €10000...
@@babelhuber3449 I remember a year ago u could get one of these for 5k in Italy
@@cristiancanova You should have brought it 😜
not true. They are already pretty expensive and popular in germany.
@@sammy674 The 944s and 944 Turbos didnt jump in Price the past Years and plenty are available. Maybe you mean the 928s and the V8 engine ones? Those are definitely rare and harder to get here
The 944 was not as obscure as Doug thinks. He just wasn't born then. I was in college in 1988 and saw plenty of these and the 924 on the roads. Fairly common.
The 944 wasn't obscure, but the 951 (Turbo) was. It had the same MSRP as the 911 when it came out.
I don't think he means obscure, just sorta overlooked in the car community. It's a rare Porsche that was sold to the public, he knows it's a known entity.
Thank you Mr. DeMuro for bringing back memories. I had one of these and then traded it for the 928GTS. Both entirely bullet proof automobiles. The most reliable vehicles I have ever owned.... with the most unreliable being a SAAB 9.3T....
You don’t still have your GTS now do you? They are worth a fortune now!
I love that you uploaded so many awesome older cars in the last few months, especially because you mentioned that these videos arent doing as well and that you would prioritize new cars.
So am I. Though these are older reviews, for the most part. He said this car was sold on his website in February of this year, and though Doug obviously got out there later than that to review it, we don't know how long that was. The foliage there looked sorta late spring/early summerish, so I'd guess this one was made and put in the bag months ago, and now is just when it was scheduled to be published. So it is possible these reviews were filmed prior to Doug deciding to simply no longer review the older cars.
Let's hope he changes his mind, but at least for now I am really digging that he is still publishing these sorts of reviews. They're much better than seeing some preproduction press car, which looks and drives and sounds the same as a million other brand new cars, because these older cars have use and wear and you get to see their actual character. Instead of a carefully created and crafted press vehicle that does nothing to stand out anyway, which is pretty much all new vehicles, supercars and hypercars included.
@@evilcam Good point.
What an amazing car. One of my favourites from the area. It is neglected due to the VW/Audi link and the fact that it has only 4 zylinders. Porsche fixed this with the Boxster, only to have now gone back to 4 zyl engines for the current Boxster (sales dropped massively since then). Hope you can review an S2 or an 968 at some point.
I used to hate this car and thought of it as a lesser Porsche until I watched a video about its history and how it was cobbled together with VW parts yet actually was a good performance car.
nobody wants a 4 cylinder but many people make due with them. Nobody buying a new/barely used porsche wants to "make due" with anything
They said 4 banger were no real porsches....what we have now? Correct, 4 banger porsches.
I’ve been waiting for this for years, thank you Doug!
My friend had a 924 in High School back in 2004. A 1979 model! All we could do was dream of a 944. That chassis handles incredibly! It could drift balls in the snow ❄️. It had a three speed automatic and was slow as hell, but handled on rails!! Also it had a brand new Maaco paint job, green and blue flaked. That car was special! Thanks for the nostalgia, Doug!
ive owned my 87 944turbo since new with 80000 miles on her. she still gets my heart a beatin as she did when new...best fun or the dollar since meeting my wife 40 years ago this week. cheers.
My old man had this car when I was a kid, and it felt like a rocket to us! My bro and I fit back there just fine - perks of being 4 and 5 😆. He passed a few years ago but thanks for the memories!
Oh yeah, my dad had the Turbo 4cyl Mustang SVO. With not one, but two spoilers. Speaking of which two very unique cars for Doug to review the 1985 Mustang SVO and the Turbo 4 Thunderbird. I wonder if there are any good ones left on the road?
THIS is another Porsche that keeps appreciating in value!
Can't believe the owner didn't tell Doug how to remove the sunroof. But I can believe in this car's handling, few cars were so agile back in the day.
Had a poster of it on my wall growing up - always loved it.
I'm lucky enough to snag my best friend's 924s LS3 swap for around the same price these are going for nowadays. Absolutely fantastic platforms
1) They had a TV commercial that was mostly POV driving down the road. The car only appeared right at the end. It was an awesome spot and actually made me stand up and cheer.
2) I got to drive one of these on a test drive with a friend, and it was the most neutral, pleasant car I'd ever been in. So I agree that it is a pleasure to drive.
Love it Doug. I've had a low mileage 944 turbo since about 2016... and I absolutely love it. Thanks for making this video!
Great review! I've got that same year/model sitting in my garage now, surprisingly with less miles (17k). I was 8 years old when my dad bought it. Even at that price I don't think I could get rid of it.
Pro Tip, the sunroof comes off, and it's such a pain I've only done it once!
it's absolutely the most responsive car I have ever driven. I miss mine, it was $175 and after many repairs it started after a rats nest was removed form the air filter box. i was 15 and I almost got arrested for trying to race an undercover with NO tags, NO ID, No insurance or registration.. broken windshield and seats that were not really installed just sitting there. I was going to a friends house at night.. good memories.
fell in love with this car back in the day with 16 candles reruns... lol
A little note on the rear wiper: you really, really need to make absolutely sure the space below the motor is clear before shutting the glass trunk. If there's a large enough item place directly below the motor, the whole glass will pop out of the rubber frame!
Good review, Doug. One addition (seen on the owner's manual cover) is there was also the 944 S. 16v head added to bring hp up to 188. Many journalists in period preferred the S to the turbo.
Did they ever turbo the 16v head?
I love all the front engined Porsche's. I remember reading about these when they were new in all the popular car magazines. This was a very common color combination for 944's, Guards red over black. Many of these suffered cracked dashboards as a result. Thanks.
it Beats all Your.. Supercar wanks, in your Meseum.. it is a car that you drive everyday, enjoy an have fun..
Not a shitbox million dollar, mummy I have a Small penis crap, you have in the Mesuem, that as about as practical, as a 3 cup bra... my mate owns a 1936bRolls Royce, the Wife Drives the Kids to School in it...
Not sitting in some collectors car, poofter museum, Ameican look how rich i am crap..
I have a 1990 944 S2 and love the car. I've always thought they were underrated for sure
Finally talking about this! I have a 86 NA and love it still. Long lasting cars too!
The sunroof switch operates differently with the key on. You can remove the roof with the key in the first position by retracting the lifting legs and undoing the front latches. There would’ve been a roof storage bag in the bag cargo area.
Thanks for reviewing my car's 1-year newer twin Doug! That sunroof panel is completely removable btw, hence the latches. The panel lifts out and can stow in the trunk with a bag that was included.
Funny - I saw a 944 today (been some time since last time) and thought to myself "that is acually really rather cool".
13:00 Actually Doug, do your research. Rear 'seats' in cars like this were used to get around the extra taxes in some countries, placed on 2-seat passenger cars - sports cars.
One of my teachers has a 944. It’s like this bronze color. Inside and out is unfathomably clean, not a crease to be seen on the leather. With us both being car guys I find him to be one of my favorite teachers. Very cool guy.
I really enjoyed mine. I drove 100 miles each way to my office back then and the 944 was a pleasure. Very comfortable, surprisingly easy on gas on the highway, and range per tank was great. I thought it was the perfect grand touring car.
I see others have already pointed out about the sunroof being removable. It even came with a matching Porsche scripted cover to keep it nice when removed. I was watching this thinking "How the hell doesn't he know this?".
Back in the 80s the 944 and 928 were my favorite Porsches. I thought the 911 was a relic from the past that Porsche continued to build for some reason. I like it a lot more now of course as teenagers aren’t the best judge of good things, are they?
Well I’m 51 and I still feel the way you felt as a teenager lol. Love the 944/928 and I’ve never understood what people see in the 911. 😁
@@rauserbegins5850 I still love the 944/928 too, it’s just the 911 is getting the love as well 😁 even if, cabin aside, I’m actually not too keen on the latest 992 series.
@@DavidDatura 992 is the latest
@@petteriotava8558 oh right, sorry about that. I meant the 992 then. Correcting the mistake…
I'm 55 and wanted this 944 Turbo. A few years later I did buy the 928S4. The 928 was so fun but a bit hard to work on as the warranties expired quickly back then.
I have driven a ‘88 naturally aspirated 944, and even though there’s no power, it was still a blast to drive. This exact car is my dream car.
edit: my mom had this 944 my junior year in high school, and I loved the looks it got when I left the student parking lot. I loved that car. That was last year btw, and even people who nothing about cars asked me about it.
About time you review my great 951!!
As Tom Cruise said, "Porsche there is no substitute! " He was dead on. When I was a kid this was my dream car. I was about 19 when I picked my 87 944 Turbo white over cream up for $8900.00 with 98k miles. My dad was so pissed he through all my clothes in it and said you can sleep in it.......I did the first night till my mom made him let me back in the house. Knowing nothing about cars evertime I broke and that was often with me beating on it, I had it towed it to the closest Porsche certifed mechanic. He replaced the turbo, transmission numberous elecrical issues not to mention, three computers on that car. It was located in the passenger floor board under the carpet, when the sunroof drain clogged up the water diverted into that footwell shorting the start sequence. All they had to do is dry out and they worked again come to find out. He probabbly sold me my same one over and over after I bought and brought him the first one. I bought this in 1994 when the bigger your stereo system was the more the girls wanted to test out your bass and sit in the seats. So as impatient as I was, I had a 10k dollar stero system installed, made up of a state of the art Alpine motorized three disc indash changer and large LED display, (so bulky the radio brain had to be mounted under the seat (lol) mb quartz componets for the mids and highs with 2 Alpine V12 Amps mounted to the custom carpeted and plexiglass box that housed my JL audio sub. When MTV chose their location for several years to tape spring break it was only 45 minutes from my house in Panama City Beach where my parents owned two condo's on the beach, and the trifecta of owning a Porsche, created a lifetime of memories that most people would never experience. I am humbled and appreciative as a 47 year old man that understands what I once took for granted. Those were the best days of my life. Did I understand Doug to say that car SOLD for more than the sticker was when it was new? For God sake a 930 sticked for about $65k back then. Now I think I am going to be sick, At 21 years old I removed the Alpine system and sold the car for something like $4k
I'm also sticking to your reviews exactly because of these classic gems. Not only from Porsche or BMW, but also beasts like Suburban, K5 Blazer, Grand Wagoneer or Viper. Perhaps not the sexiest things on the road (except that Viper), but they are like time machines and sometimes, it's exactly nostalgia you need to reset your mind and forget how crappy modern cars can be.
Loved my 944 S2, fast, fun, fantastic handling reliable rocket.
These classic car reviews are awesome as always, Doug. As you've now kinda set a precedent of sorts, I would reason that you've just GOTTA now do a proper review of the MacDaddy of all classic Porsches: The legendary 930 Turbo!
Thanks again for a fantastic review!
If Doug is going to try out the Widowmaker, he's advised to do it on a track hired for the day, where he won't risk hitting a concrete bridge pillar at speed. This car has *very* individual handling characteristics, which require it to be treated with a LOT of respect. This is a car you drive in order to teach yourself *restraint* , because if you drive it like a hooligan, it bites *hard* if you make mistakes.
You only have to experience the tail skip out on one of these once, and you *never* want to experience that again. Especially given that it's powered by a 330 BHP turbocharged engine that in the day, was a fire breathing monster of a power unit, with, of course, the infamous 1980s turbo lag in spades. This is a car you buy, in order to spend five years learning how to handle it properly before trying anything gung ho. But if you do that, you learn skills that will serve you well in many other cars. Boy racers need not apply.
@@Calilasseia I'd respectfully agree that - if abused - the 930 can bite HARD and even fatally. However, I'd venture to reason that its infamous Widowmaker reputation is extremely over-exaggerated. The car is absolutely rock-solid on a straight and can still brake extraordinarily well even by today's standards. The chaos ensues when one naively abuses the brake and/or boost around bends - notably when entering corners. I've only ever fishtailed in the car once as a passenger, because the driver overrevved and gunned it from a stoplight while making a right turn, causing the car to violently pendulum out of line. And no doubt that was a hair-raising experience I'll never forget nor want to ever repeat. But that situation was unequivocally the driver's fault, and could have been easily avoided. I've personally put many addictive boost-happy miles on the car for years without incident or any sense of control loss, because I respect and remain cognisant of its tail-happy uh, "quirks and features" 😊 and I simply just don't "go there", and I'm nowhere close to possessing the skills required to truly drive the car to its limits as you properly suggested.
I'm confident to wager that Mr. Demuro is among those who know better, understands the car's abilities and infamous reputation better than most of us, and would have no problem driving the car on regular roads without incident. I'd even guess that he'd find issue with its massive turbo-lag below 3000RPM, which is more reminiscent of a first-generation Volkswagen Beetle at that point...following which all Hell breaks loose, which is what makes the car still oh, so addictively fun!
Just respect those aforementioned rules of physics and you'll be fine! 👍
@@frankspatone Point on. The 930 with a G5 gearbox was my first car I ever owned. Crazy as I am now broke carwise but at least I did profit from selling it. I saved the car on wet track doing 100 miles/h. Maybe it was due to pre practicing lift-off on a dry track thanks to our local Porsche Club track days. All in all it is not that scary once you dare to use the throttle. If the car wanted to kill its driver, I certainly would not be able to save the car in mid curve doing what I just explained.
@@Calilasseia Sounds amazing, I love 930s! The 80's beast!
I owned a black 44 with the 2.7 engine, I loved looking in the doors mirrors at those wheel arches, it’s the only car I’ve owned that made me feel special. Whenever I saw another 944 on the road you’d always get a wave. It drove well and was comfortable, the guy I bought it from had mixed feelings selling it, he had just bought 964 Targa and said that he felt tired after driving home on his commute compared to the 44.
What I don’t miss are the running costs, my first service bill was £1400! I nearly passed out. I owned the car for 3 years, I bought it for £7500 back in 1999, over that time spent around the same again on various things including a new clutch, engine mounts and hrs of labour. There’s no such thing as a cheap Porsche. Would love to own one again, the S2 in Guards Red with the turbo wheels, a bit like the one you showed.
As for a Turbo…no I’m no that brave.
Always loved these Porsches. 924, 928, 944 - all 80's icons that don't get enough exposure. So much character, from the cassette storage to the rear bumper label to the "backseats", it warms my heart to see it reviewed. Wouldn't mind having one of these someday...
Keep doing old car reviews, PLEASE. No one can afford new vehicles nowadays. So please don't be deterred by snobs when you do clips of old vehicles. Keep it up thanks Doug!
Pretty comprehensive review, thanks, few minor errors Turbo sill trims are aftermarket. As pointed out by many here - the Sunroof comes out and there should be a bag for it in the back (later cars had straps) along with some clips on the car for the bag to attach too. Those unleaded fuel only labels are amazingly robust! Knees fit either side of the front seats so smaller adults can fit in there for short journeys, as car seats for the back are tricky my wife (5'6") has done some fairly long journeys and later 944s did have 3 point rear belts. 0-60 is not really its forte - you feel like you are abusing it getting it away quickly from a standstill 30 - 70mph or 70 - 130mph it is much happier!
I agree the 944 is very underrated, especially as with relatively mild tuning 300 to 320BHP is possible - I have surprised many people on trackdays in mine!
I have a 1990 coupe (for about 20 years -modified) and a 1991 turbo cabriolet (10 years - standard), short video of the cab here ruclips.net/video/0cSOPuFgRyA/видео.html
You should explore the quirks of the expanding “space saver” tire.
Doug is a type of a guy to adjust tyre pressure with his mouth
My Aunt had one of these when I was a kid, and tbh I only remember this because of the Turbo labeling on the back. I rode with her often, fun times!
Doug is the type of guy who goes to Boston to see a Kansas concert and Kansas to see a Boston concet.
His favorite song is "More than a feeling is just dust in the wind".