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  • Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
  • Guitars of the Day! Relish Guitars were, in a lot of days, ahead of their time. And now, just like Parker Fly before them, they're out of business. It's a sad day for the guitar players.
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  • @trentfranks4507
    @trentfranks4507 8 месяцев назад +5096

    Everyone thought they were cool until they looked at the sticker price.

    • @beautague9163
      @beautague9163 8 месяцев назад +43

      Right???

    • @trentfranks4507
      @trentfranks4507 8 месяцев назад

      @@beautague9163 as a said too they weren’t that innovative. A shop near in Atlanta has some ampeg ones on consignment no one will buy.

    • @Beast_Hub
      @Beast_Hub 8 месяцев назад +188

      It’s amazing what you can buy after selling just one of your kidneys

    • @MPF-80
      @MPF-80 8 месяцев назад +141

      @@Beast_Hublike a kidney shaped guitar, for instance.

    • @gbenselum
      @gbenselum 8 месяцев назад +34

      You could change the pickups or for the same price have all the guitars with all that configurations

  • @NA-oo4ls
    @NA-oo4ls 8 месяцев назад +2801

    If you can afford a Relish, you can buy a few guitars with whatever pickup combinations you want.

    • @MisterRorschach90
      @MisterRorschach90 8 месяцев назад +41

      Yeah but not a few high end guitars with whatever pickups you want. They were like 2-3k. So that’s a grand per guitar which is like epiphone and Mexican fender level. Though I doubt those things actually had the same quality as a normal 3k dollar guitar.

    • @gunnarmarks5754
      @gunnarmarks5754 8 месяцев назад +17

      Ya and in a concert setting it’s going to be faster to take of one guitar n put on another than it’s going to be to pop the back off your relish and change the pick ups

    • @vansen-qod
      @vansen-qod 8 месяцев назад +17

      And body types and accessories. Swapping pickup is only the beginning. Things like bridge type, scale length, string gauge and body types make having different guitars worth it. My set neck and heavier Les Paul resonates differently than my lighter Tele. They've both have different uses.

    • @misho2184
      @misho2184 8 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@MisterRorschach90
      Plus 6 high end pick ups included: from DiMarcio, Seymour Duncan, P-90 etc. included - for $2999.

    • @LamStock
      @LamStock 8 месяцев назад +17

      Hot swappable pick ups seems so pointless when the big players want vintage and the gigging musicians want reliability. These were for bedroom musicians that wanted to play with Lego. But couldn't afford them.

  • @danonthestrings
    @danonthestrings 8 месяцев назад +1656

    I don’t remember who said this but I remember a quote “Everybody loves talking about crazy, but nobody buys crazy”.

    • @turolretar
      @turolretar 8 месяцев назад +41

      I remember some guy at a slave auction said that to me. I was just a young fella. Gosh, it was so long ago, seems like a lifetime…

    • @JPGtampa
      @JPGtampa 8 месяцев назад +20

      Exhibit A: Tesla Cybertruck

    • @Lucidbkeo
      @Lucidbkeo 8 месяцев назад

      I've heard something similar about women, everybody wants to bed the crazy one, but nobody wants to marry her.

    • @Mizzle420420
      @Mizzle420420 8 месяцев назад

      Tell that to Paul Wall and Johnny Dang

    • @birbdad1842
      @birbdad1842 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@JPGtampaExcept they dont really buy Tesla, they buy Elon

  • @randysmith8770
    @randysmith8770 8 месяцев назад +442

    Parker Guitars were in business for 23+ years, I believe that is a little longer than Relish. Never played a Relish but Parkers are AMAZING including mine.

    • @gwshark07
      @gwshark07 8 месяцев назад +5

      I love my Nitefly

    • @scottdaugherty8065
      @scottdaugherty8065 8 месяцев назад +22

      OMG guys you ain't kidding. I had a Nitefly. Lost it when my poor wife died but I just left a comment how great that guitar was ( or is 😢) and I miss that blue baby. (My wife too don't get me wrong) but that was the best guitar I ever owned and I have owned several in my day.

    • @gwshark07
      @gwshark07 8 месяцев назад +13

      @@scottdaugherty8065 very sorry to hear about your wife, but my nightfly is probably my favorite guitar out of many, I keep hearing about the glued on frets on the carbon coated neck coming off, never happened

    • @scottdaugherty8065
      @scottdaugherty8065 8 месяцев назад +13

      @@gwshark07 Oh yeah? I never had that problem. Well at least while I owned it. And thanks for saying about the wife. Passed in 2015, I really took it hard so I'm just now getting my life back. I have a LTD which is my prof pic. It's a M-100 FM. I bought it used. Someone who didn't either know how to play are take care of it but it's all I can afford. It plays I guess. I've lost everything I had so it sucks but also a part of life. But the Parker guitars are great, hopefully I will own another one day. PEACE bro. ✌️

    • @randysmith8770
      @randysmith8770 8 месяцев назад

      @@scottdaugherty8065 so sorry for your losses

  • @YukonDemon
    @YukonDemon 8 месяцев назад +411

    I thought they were really cool guitars, but then saw the $4k CAD price tag, and honestly, I'm not the least bit surprised they've gone under.

    • @Overgis4058
      @Overgis4058 8 месяцев назад +29

      Same, after seeing the video for the first time, I had 6k in my bank and I was like, yeah I can drop like 1500 on a guitar. Then I saw the price and realized that more than HALF of all my money would be gone and so I just closed my laptop. I have a feeling it went like that for quite a bunch of people.

    • @stephenhepworth3113
      @stephenhepworth3113 8 месяцев назад +18

      Priced themselves off the market 🤷

    • @haliaeetus8221
      @haliaeetus8221 7 месяцев назад +5

      Their business model was wrong and out of touch. The basic concept was good and could still become a hit if someone makes the designs (price) suit the correct business model.

    • @bladeoflucatiel
      @bladeoflucatiel 7 месяцев назад +10

      Guitars made to doctors and lawyers, imagine the average broken musician doing night gigs expending 4k on a guitar. Even Gibson went bankrupt

    • @ratman262
      @ratman262 7 месяцев назад

      when a mostly normal, 6 string guitar approaches the price point of a Chapman Stick it's getting a bit silly regardless of quality. Maybe if it were custom made, but if not a guitar really has to be pushing boundaries to justify the cost.

  • @mattydraps5170
    @mattydraps5170 8 месяцев назад +342

    Dude, I was literally in their store in Switzerland when I was on vacation in like May. It was just really awkward in there, it was completely silent. And the sales dude just sat and stared at me while I was playing the entire time which only was like two minutes.

    • @sheldonwright8770
      @sheldonwright8770 8 месяцев назад +36

      I’m picturing ‘Gil’ from the simpsons working there hoping on a sale 😂

    • @willkirby5520
      @willkirby5520 8 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@sheldonwright8770
      LMFAO, YESSSSSS!

    • @timhitt9541
      @timhitt9541 8 месяцев назад +18

      Lol what was he supposed to do sing or join in playing?

    • @rosslomath
      @rosslomath 8 месяцев назад

      ​​@@timhitt9541well yeah lol, or suggest the best pick-up for that type of music or at least offer something that people can tell others about, otherwise you may as well buy online without any assistance.

    • @TheRealMick
      @TheRealMick 8 месяцев назад +45

      You didn't happen to be playing Stairway to Heaven by any chance, did you? This would explain a lot.

  • @cuthbertgrichardsfuck7235
    @cuthbertgrichardsfuck7235 8 месяцев назад +136

    Really wanted one, just far too expensive.
    I own a 1995 Parker fly. Its still one of my favourite guitars to play.

  • @rockydempsey94
    @rockydempsey94 8 месяцев назад +72

    I used to work at Sweetwater doing their 55 point inspection. The problem with these guitars was that they did not play well. My squire Jazz Master has a much more comfortable neck than any of the relish guitars that I worked on. If they played as smooth as an LTD or Schecter guitar I absolutely would have bought one even with the price being so high because they really do have cool features. Unfortunately, the feel on them was so bad that I would not buy one even if it was under $500.

    • @zacharykim295
      @zacharykim295 8 месяцев назад +10

      What exactly was bad about the neck? Too chunky, too thin?

    • @JF96125
      @JF96125 8 месяцев назад +8

      We stan Sweetwater and their inspectors.

    • @stinkykittylaur
      @stinkykittylaur 8 месяцев назад

      @@zacharykim295 I tried a few models at our local guitar store. The neck is on the chunkier/thicker side. The board is a bit "wide".
      Very uncomfortable if you have small hands.

    • @ThisTimeTheWorld
      @ThisTimeTheWorld 8 месяцев назад +4

      It looks really flat. I like it.

  • @derin111
    @derin111 8 месяцев назад +34

    If they were actually produced in Switzerland that was always going to cause a price problem.
    Any labour costs in Switzerland are going to be astronomical.

    • @patrickspapens5497
      @patrickspapens5497 5 месяцев назад +1

      Its not that bad. I live and work there but we still get customers even though there are companies that can do it cheaper too

  • @jdcsteelers498
    @jdcsteelers498 8 месяцев назад +45

    Dude parker fly guitars are so amazing. I really hope they can resume production one of these days kind of like how Hamer did. Yes they’re pretty expensive but goddamn they’re well built

    • @dougc84
      @dougc84 8 месяцев назад +3

      Nah, US Music tanked the brand after trying to turn it into a budget brand. They still hold the name but they want nothing to do with them - they aren’t a market they want to take on.

    • @DennyBob521
      @DennyBob521 8 месяцев назад +2

      Hamer was more like US PRS when Jol Danzig ran it. I could be wrong, but I think in 1974 when they started they were the first of the bo-teek high end guitar companies.
      Once Fender took over they were more like Squier.

  • @Juliosguitarstuffs
    @Juliosguitarstuffs 8 месяцев назад +210

    The price was WAAAAAAAY too high! Although they probably had the best feature of easily switching out components! That was really cool. Unfortunately, their high price was their demise. Also I think these will be scalped, so get ‘em while you can. This is gonna be one of those guitars that will fetch for enormous prices like a 50’s gold top LP.

    • @Augrills
      @Augrills 8 месяцев назад +10

      Les Paul brand - makes me think of the legend and early pioneer of the electric guitar
      Relish - like on a hotdog?

    • @jasondorsey7110
      @jasondorsey7110 8 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@AugrillsLoads of legendary players used les pauls, who used a relish guitar?

    • @creationinspired200
      @creationinspired200 8 месяцев назад +3

      Doubtful les pauls are highly regarded as one of the best if not the best guitars on the market PRS might be there but relish is to small not enough people know of them now you take an Annapolis prs or a pre 1985 flag ship prs and that will most likely fetch those prices but not until the man himself has passed on once paul dies PRS guitars will be worth an absolute fuckin fortune especially those hes personally signed just my 2 cents

    • @gentelmanjunkie542
      @gentelmanjunkie542 8 месяцев назад

      ....er, maybe, if they weren't so ugly.

    • @jasonbent97
      @jasonbent97 8 месяцев назад

      @@jasondorsey7110
      Clarence “Hot Dog” Jefferson did on the seminal ska jump blues exotica instrumental album he put out just before the pandemic in 2020.
      If that’s too deep cut there is also Stank Reynolds of Roll Tide the hottest band in Alabama to never be allowed into Florida.
      That’s two more than you knew before so there you go.

  • @1pretsangchipok84
    @1pretsangchipok84 8 месяцев назад +63

    Rip,heard about them and always thought the idea was cool,never got one,and I never can now :(

    • @Augrills
      @Augrills 8 месяцев назад +10

      Now would be the time to get one if you wanted them. Probably selling for what they’re actually worth instead of3x that

    • @SlickArmor
      @SlickArmor 7 месяцев назад +4

      What do you mean? They didn't send out the order to destroy every last unit.

    • @krashd
      @krashd 6 месяцев назад

      @@Augrills No, the price would skyrocket seeing as the guitars are now limited edition by default.

    • @Augrills
      @Augrills 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@krashd why disagree with me when google shows I’m right? You can buy a relish brand new off musician’s friend for 1k, that’s half price. You can get secondhand ones for 400-600. That’s a third of their retail price 2 years ago. They may be worth something one day, but Relish went bankrupt for a reason. And their custom hardware will no longer be supported. So people think they stink

  • @trentfranks4507
    @trentfranks4507 8 месяцев назад +36

    Ampeg did a similar thing with the Dan Armstrong Acrylic guitars. They were great sounding, heavy, and did not sell well.

    • @trentfranks4507
      @trentfranks4507 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@parallax3d true. I saw one on consignment near me for $2100 with the pickups and case.

    • @rmmancham9137
      @rmmancham9137 8 месяцев назад

      I would love to have one. The copies supposedly don’t stay in tune.

    • @HerculesRockefellerESQ
      @HerculesRockefellerESQ 8 месяцев назад

      ​@trentfranks4507 there is one on reverb for *7200!!*

    • @thierry18
      @thierry18 7 месяцев назад

      The basses are super popular now

  • @morgellon7877
    @morgellon7877 8 месяцев назад +12

    I didn't realize Parker Fly was short-lived. Seemed those guitars were everywhere in the 90's; a lot of folks were playing them.

    • @JariSchroderus
      @JariSchroderus 8 месяцев назад +4

      Parker was around for 23 years, Relish for about 13. Time is relative.

    • @robochef63
      @robochef63 7 месяцев назад +2

      Parker lasted 23 years.

  • @Stroke2Handed
    @Stroke2Handed 8 месяцев назад +4

    There are highly successful musicians who've never swapped a pickup, and probably couldn't tell you what pickups are inside their favorite guitar.

  • @judsonadair9218
    @judsonadair9218 8 месяцев назад +41

    They totally misunderstood the average guitar buyer. I don't own 20 guitars because of the unique tonal properties of each. I just like buying guitars.

    • @nuthinbutlove
      @nuthinbutlove 8 месяцев назад +3

      That!

    • @JF96125
      @JF96125 8 месяцев назад +2

      This. I've been playing guitar for 15 years, and I bought my first "new" guitar this year. I like buying projects that have stories, and I like making them my own.

    • @TheMurderLlamas
      @TheMurderLlamas 8 месяцев назад

      Spot on 😂

    • @larsbee
      @larsbee 8 месяцев назад +3

      I'm playing guitar for forty years and I still suck ... yet I still get more and very different kinds of them 😂
      relish lasted for 10 years ... I guess they were somewhat successful...

    • @Mizzle420420
      @Mizzle420420 8 месяцев назад +3

      Personally i like to buy fairly basic good sounding guitars and turn them into art projects lol

  • @MisterRorschach90
    @MisterRorschach90 8 месяцев назад +3

    It’s literally only something a studio would need. So there’s no reason for them to make their own randomly shaped guitars that people didn’t ask for or want. They should’ve licensed the technology out to other manufacturers or even just made a special adapter kit that could be used on certain guitars. With or without modification. I think a studio would be interested in the idea of a fender, Gibson, music man, gretsch, etc with that technology. Quickly swap pickups between sessions or songs, or even during songs. Make money from selling the technology and adapters for guitars and pickups.

  • @francescobarbaro7114
    @francescobarbaro7114 8 месяцев назад +7

    Make all pickups manufacturers adopt EMG's solderless connectors and you're kind of in between these and the pain in the ass that is conventional pickups swapping. Without going bankrupt yourself...

    • @antonchilinski9729
      @antonchilinski9729 8 месяцев назад +2

      Don't need to "make" em do it, just put connectors on yourself or pay someone locally to do it. 5 pin micro JST.

  • @ZL1LoVeR
    @ZL1LoVeR 8 месяцев назад +15

    I think the hardest sell for me was twofold: the body shape, and the scale length

    • @DenkendeMystik-ll8oi
      @DenkendeMystik-ll8oi 8 месяцев назад +4

      The body shape looks awful to me. I want a beauty when I spend that amount of money.

  • @Jburnz
    @Jburnz 7 месяцев назад

    Man, you nerd out so hard. Thank for breaking down the specs. Gives new appreciation to the thing. Video very well produced as well. Rock on 🤘

    • @agufish
      @agufish  7 месяцев назад

      haha, everyone's nerdy about something. Guitars are my "nerd out" weakness, and I'm grateful for people like you that love nerding out with me 🤘

  • @jamesgonzalez2973
    @jamesgonzalez2973 8 месяцев назад +3

    Daaamn no way i hope someone makes a teardown video so we can get insight to how they made it since theyre no longer a thing

  • @HiltsyAdventure
    @HiltsyAdventure 8 месяцев назад +5

    I didn't even know Parker guitars went out of business lol. I remember playing one at the guitar Center in high school or just after high school so late '90s early 2000s

    • @shitmandood
      @shitmandood 8 месяцев назад +1

      It was bought out and the buyer buried it. This crap guitar company that went bankrupt is nothing like Parker guitars lol

  • @scottdaugherty8065
    @scottdaugherty8065 8 месяцев назад +5

    I owned a Parker guitar. It was the best guitar I ever owned and I wish I had it back. I've owned many guitars thru out my approx 30 professional musician years and I can really say Parker is the best in my opinion. You could get a fat rich les paul sound to a fender strat and acoustic all in one guitar. It also had the stereo capability to plug on guitar cable into the guitar into two separate amps. I didn't use it much for I also plugged into Marshall stacks and strung them along but people just didn't know what Parker truly was as a guitar or maybe didn't like the shape but I still wanna own again.

    • @scottashe984
      @scottashe984 5 месяцев назад

      Add another line out to your guitar. Make one.

  • @stuballingerart
    @stuballingerart 8 месяцев назад +5

    I always thought they'd be a fantastic studio guitar, but I feel hotswappable pick-ups was always gonna be a tough sell to consumers.

  • @gr8tnowwhat
    @gr8tnowwhat 8 месяцев назад +10

    Im sure a lot of players would have liked to have supported them but you can only buy so many guitars...(I know there's never enough guitars to buy), but I hope everyone at Relish resurface or find something else.

  • @joegonzalez6869
    @joegonzalez6869 7 месяцев назад +2

    Parker Guitars was in business for 23 years before closing. Relish was in business for 11 years. The Parker is still one of my favorites to play and the carbon fiber build is extremely stable. It has DiMarzio's with Piezo's under the bridge and has both mono and stereo output. The guitar is well-balanced and weighs slightly over five pounds. The Relish is a really interesting design also but I love to play the Parker more than the Relish. Personal preference, but it is a lot of fun to play.

  • @coletaylor832
    @coletaylor832 8 месяцев назад +9

    These were absolute hipster conversation starter guitars. Had one for a month and it was not worth the price tag. The craftsmanship was precise as it should be for the almost 4K USD I spent on it, but at the end of the day I just felt it was annoying swapping a pickup or two out when I can just reach on my rack for another guitar that’s tuned to what I want and sounds the way I want.

  • @Tiptronics
    @Tiptronics 8 месяцев назад +7

    Anything with a gimmick is an unlikely long term investment. Not entirely surprised, they weren’t all that pretty, far too expensive and a gimmick

  • @ogmakefirefiregood
    @ogmakefirefiregood 8 месяцев назад +3

    Sad. I had the Parker fly classic. Great guitar. $2700 in 1997. Ouch.

  • @TrevorBoggs
    @TrevorBoggs 8 месяцев назад +1

    you really have a flair for producing informative, succinctly worded content 👍🏻

  • @jburdsinfuse
    @jburdsinfuse 8 месяцев назад +13

    $3k? Line 6 already did the Variax. Practical, easy to use on the fly, and the whole rig is cheaper than one of these things.

    • @trentfranks4507
      @trentfranks4507 8 месяцев назад +6

      Yup, I’ll stick to my $10 soldering iron and 20 minutes of time wiring in the pickups.

    • @martyshwaartz971
      @martyshwaartz971 8 месяцев назад

      @@trentfranks4507 or just a parametric eq!

    • @347Jimmy
      @347Jimmy 8 месяцев назад +5

      The Variax could change tones on the fly with no pickups, it was playing a whole different ballgame

  • @navidhendrix
    @navidhendrix 7 месяцев назад +1

    I remember Parker Guitars. I was fortunate to play a Parker Fly once. Very light guitar and easily playable.

  • @zaturnneo
    @zaturnneo 8 месяцев назад +4

    Parker Fly's are still amazing playing guitars.

  • @TruthSurge
    @TruthSurge 7 месяцев назад

    I had the idea of swappable pickups via battery contacts idea loong ago. probably in the 90s I think. But... it's hard to think any standard guitar would convert to it because it would be hard to do w/o changing the guitar quite a bit. But it would be cool to have one JUST to try out pickups to see which ones you think you like.

  • @buzzcrushtrendkill
    @buzzcrushtrendkill 8 месяцев назад +8

    Its unfortunate. But most guitar players/collectors obviously just want LP's, Strats and tele's and cannot appreciate much else.

  • @miguelnascimento2847
    @miguelnascimento2847 7 месяцев назад

    the possibility to change pickups on the fly is an amazing one I wish I had on any guitar. It makes trying out pickups and distinguish their differences much more practical than having to solder everything

  • @jimmcdougall9973
    @jimmcdougall9973 8 месяцев назад +4

    As with anything, it’s difficult to break into an established market, no matter how innovative the product is.

    • @jackblack9208
      @jackblack9208 7 месяцев назад +2

      Especially when you try to do it starting out on the high end. Take the car company KIA. I have never been a fan of their automobiles but I have an appreciation for how they started. When they first came out they had two cars. Neither of them were anything special but they were somewhat decent cars. However, they were relatively cheap and it gave many people, who couldn't previously, the opportunity to own a new car. They ended up selling really well. And as time progressed, they began adding new models with better features and now they are a successful company with automobiles that are far better than what they began with. I'm still not a fan of KIA but I can respect their method of breaking into the American car market.

    • @jimmcdougall9973
      @jimmcdougall9973 7 месяцев назад

      @@jackblack9208 it’s also helped them having a top designer. But yeah, I tried out one or two models and, at the risk of sounding chauvinistic, they felt like women’s cars. Something to drop the kids off at school, or do the shopping. The extremely soft clutch probably has something to do with it.
      Where were we? Ah, yes, guitars… 😂

    • @jackblack9208
      @jackblack9208 7 месяцев назад

      @@jimmcdougall9973 true this thread is about guitars. But you brought up the point about the difficulty of trying to break into an established market. So I give an example of a company that did just that. The fact that it's a company that is unrelated to music is irrelevant. It doesn't change the fact that they broke into an established market, one that is far more difficult to break into in my opinion, and was successful. The matter of the designer is irrelevant as well. As obviously the the designer of the guitar in question wasn't a run of the mill guitar designer. My whole point is that it's better to start at the low end and build up than to try to start at the high end. Starting at the low end gives you the possibility of a larger pool of customers due to the lower price. and you can work up from there. Trying to come out on the high end severely limits the customer pool because not as many people can afford the product. Not to mention that you're unknown and people have no idea of the quality of your product so your asking people to gamble a lot of money on a product that could be good or not. Now if it was a situation where your production force was small say just you and you were using common tools that were relatively inexpensive as well as was making your products in small runs or building to order, you would have a better chance because your overhead is much less. However, to start out using costly methods of production and materials is a recipe for disaster because you have invested so much to produce something that you have to sell a lot of just to break even. And in an uncertain market with an unknown product that's a huge gamble.

  • @alexschuster1618
    @alexschuster1618 8 месяцев назад +1

    Parker's were around for a minute, and Ken Parker went into super high end guitars. They play AMAZINGLY, but I always hated the horn when sitting down to play.

  • @symbiat0
    @symbiat0 8 месяцев назад +5

    I think innovation is generally more accepted among bass players than guitarists.

    • @radatoullie
      @radatoullie 8 месяцев назад +2

      I honestly agree with you guitarists are very picky while most bassists are like "Cool a new feature"

    • @Augrills
      @Augrills 8 месяцев назад

      Cause people can actually hear us

  • @thesamaffliction1572
    @thesamaffliction1572 8 месяцев назад +1

    It’s a shame. I understand making small batches of guitars but they were extreme prices with very very out there shapes/tech. I almost wonder if they could’ve adjusted their model in retro fitting their pickup style and tech into existing guitars similar to Evertune with custom cavities and backplates. The technology is incredible for studio use but never really needed for hobby players or live musicians so having people add it to recording guitars they already love would’ve been a great feature over 3.5k for a great but unknown new guitar.

  • @richXPT707
    @richXPT707 8 месяцев назад +7

    I think I'll just spend $20 on a soldering iron instead...

    • @ThisTimeTheWorld
      @ThisTimeTheWorld 8 месяцев назад +1

      I got an Ibanez scratch and dent at GC and put pantera pickups in it that I got off reverb

  • @stanleonard86
    @stanleonard86 8 месяцев назад +1

    So much went wrong here. I'm frankly impressed they lasted this long. 1 no one swaps electronics enough to need them to be plug and play - no one. 2 Unless you're a high demand world class luthier, you HAVE to have a $700 - $1200 counterpart to your $4k guitars. 3 with literally everything going to modulation, almost no one needs this kind of instrument.

  • @notyetskeletal4809
    @notyetskeletal4809 8 месяцев назад +5

    The tech that didn't render Fender obsolete.

  • @417Dobro
    @417Dobro 6 месяцев назад

    I've got a Corvette red KAPA COBRA USA bilt circa 1965 Strat knock-off that is straight, wonderful to play, and insomuch as it will never be a Deified Iconic collectible; it's fun to own, play, and MODIFY without feeling like you're ruining it.

  • @tbprodutions
    @tbprodutions 8 месяцев назад +20

    People try to reinvent the electric guitar when the telecaster is literally perfect

    • @kohai-kun9261
      @kohai-kun9261 8 месяцев назад +2

      *Les Paul

    • @AaronNGBnTech
      @AaronNGBnTech 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@kohai-kun9261 hahahahahahahahajahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    • @ServantofErra
      @ServantofErra 8 месяцев назад +2

      Neither are perfect.

    • @Tiptronics
      @Tiptronics 8 месяцев назад

      @@ServantofErrawhat’s perfect about them is that they are imperfect - all the best things in life are flawed.

    • @ServantofErra
      @ServantofErra 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@Tiptronics no.

  • @PorterPickups
    @PorterPickups 8 месяцев назад +1

    In he last year or so, We had just become a US service center for brackets and pickup installation with them, it’s unfortunate for sure

  • @SyntheticFuture
    @SyntheticFuture 8 месяцев назад +21

    Musicians are pretty irrational, so when given the choice between a 3000 dollar high end modern instrument or a 60+ year old guitar made of some random tree at the same price they will always choose the wood option because.... Warmth.... And emotion... Or something 😅

    • @SlyRyFry
      @SlyRyFry 8 месяцев назад +5

      There's not really much innovation unless people just refuse to learn the basic skill of soldering. I think the idea is neat, but it's just too gimmicky. Think about how often you actually change out pickups. Plus any $3k+ guitar I buy should already have insane pickups I don't want to swap out. If you have $3k+ guitars stop wasting your money on pickups and get one of the only things that actually matters, speakers for your cabinet. Then learn how to solder them in and your tone journey can finally begin

    • @Augrills
      @Augrills 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@SlyRyFry I’ve changed pickups twice in 20 years of playing guitar lol

    • @SyntheticFuture
      @SyntheticFuture 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@SlyRyFry I'm going to say something that is going to be hated but there's no good reason to ever pay this kind of money on a guitar to start with.
      A modern mid range guitar (sub a thousand) wil outperform any legacy guitar on a technical level (noise / manufacturing precision / overall material quality).
      The guitar itself contributes very little to the sound anyways. I've seen shootouts with different kinds of wood, different body shapes, hollow vs solid. It doesn't matter. Even pick ups barely matter.
      What this company didn't seem to understand is that what people buy is a story and a brand. Not an actual increase in instrument quality.

    • @GremlinZ420
      @GremlinZ420 8 месяцев назад +1

      I take it that you aren’t a musician, or atleast a guitarist. Wood does directly affect how a guitar sounds and plays.

    • @SlyRyFry
      @SlyRyFry 8 месяцев назад +4

      @GremlinZ420 Not electric guitars. Acoustics sure, but there's no evidence that it makes a discernable difference when you're getting the sound through a pickup and a speaker or emulated speaker. Check out Jim Lill on youtube he has some great videos debunking most of those old head myths

  • @Qui-9
    @Qui-9 8 месяцев назад +1

    It's sad to see a good thing fail to exist just because there's not enough demand. I guess it would if it was a personal side-business or a larger business with a special series, which could make these and other niche products at any level of demand.

  • @discostu2282
    @discostu2282 8 месяцев назад +11

    If they weren’t ugly AF, they may have had a chance. Any guitar that looks like a Les Paul had a baby a with melted tulip, is never going to bought by the masses

    • @user-gz7vv6uu7b
      @user-gz7vv6uu7b 8 месяцев назад +4

      Well, the looks are a matter of taste. I kind of like the looks of the Relish guitars. Their features are just nonsensical for me. And the price tag makes it a clear "thanks, but no, thanks".

  • @HarrisonSD03
    @HarrisonSD03 7 месяцев назад

    Had the opportunity to mess with one when it came used to my Guitar Center. Neat piece for sure.

  • @seansweeney9762
    @seansweeney9762 8 месяцев назад +2

    Sad that guitarists just don’t seem to like any forward thinking innovation! Insisting that old relics can’t be improved upon.

    • @tmo7734
      @tmo7734 8 месяцев назад +2

      Forward-thinking isn’t the issue, money is.

  • @ArtieandtheFish
    @ArtieandtheFish 7 месяцев назад +1

    A few years ago, I bought a Relish Mary with 2 extra sets of pickups on a Black Friday sale at a price that had to be cost or below. The fit & finish and the playability are superb. The neck is wide and flat with a satiny finish. I am not picky about neck shapes so it feels just fine to me. It sounds like an ES335. The way I looked at it is with the swappable pickups I got many different versions of the Gibson ES335 or other USA made semi-hollow for the price of one.
    They made an import version that went for around $1000 I think. And towards the end sold some Swiss-made versions for about $2000 US that were simplified compared to the earlier versions and had some pretty cool wood. If they had started there maybe they would still be around?

  • @rushman2112
    @rushman2112 8 месяцев назад +10

    Aluminum isn’t a great toan-wood according to my buddy Luther who basically works at my local axe shoppe. Give me that swampy ash instead

    • @130mMer5boc
      @130mMer5boc 8 месяцев назад +7

      This was never your bluesy edge of breakup guitar.

    • @rushman2112
      @rushman2112 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@130mMer5boc I always play blues and I’m always on the edge of breakup, that’s what rock and roll will do to ya 😤😎

    • @tbprodutions
      @tbprodutions 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@rushman2112I'm edging rn

    • @LRM12o8
      @LRM12o8 8 месяцев назад +5

      Thinking that "tonewoods" matter in an electric guitar is almost as ridiculous, as the unnecessary and expensive gimmicks this failing guitar brand was built on.

    • @347Jimmy
      @347Jimmy 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@LRM12o8 it doesn't make much difference which wood you use, but aluminium will produce a noticeably brighter tone (not by an absurd amount though)

  • @thomasprice1320
    @thomasprice1320 5 месяцев назад

    I love my Electra MPC guitar. I use 2 overdrive modules and it's like a pre amp built right in
    Bought it new in mid 70's and it's still delivering.

  • @5urg3x
    @5urg3x 7 месяцев назад

    Aw man. These were so cool. I liked that they were doing something different. I wish I would have bought one. The interchangeable hot swap pickups idea was amazing.

  • @Shaylok
    @Shaylok 8 месяцев назад

    I love the idea of modular guitars with swappable parts, but they never catch on. Still waiting for the Boaz 1 modular guitar to go into production.

  • @IKilledTheDodo
    @IKilledTheDodo 8 месяцев назад +1

    Too bad. I wanted one for a long time, but the price was just too high. Not really worth buying now, imo, since you can’t get custom pickups for it without them making the special pickup chassis.

  • @FelineGuitars
    @FelineGuitars 2 месяца назад

    The pickup swapping tech has been bought up by Cream T Guitars here in UK, and rebranded Guitar X. I have 2 of the cheaper Indonesian made Trinity models and a whole bunch of pickups .
    They are a really useful too for pickup comparison, but then I am a guitar tech.

  • @Funkybassuk
    @Funkybassuk 5 месяцев назад

    I have one of the Made in Indonesia guitars that was sold off for very little. The Cream T pickup sets I bought for it cost more than the guitar! Great fun swapping out the different pickups while recording. It takes about 5 seconds. You don’t even have to unplug from the amp.

  • @stevenpitcher5585
    @stevenpitcher5585 8 месяцев назад

    I have a Trinity. I’m really happy with it. The price was a bit high but the workmanship and quality is second to none.

  • @JDog_Unchained
    @JDog_Unchained 7 месяцев назад +2

    People, myself included would rather have many guitars, than one guitar they can modify.

  • @nihilioellipsis
    @nihilioellipsis 7 месяцев назад

    very nice. If you do a follow up, could you include some examples of the sounds they produce?

  • @theswissmiss69
    @theswissmiss69 8 месяцев назад

    They are located in my hometown and suddenly they were taking more and more guitars out of their shop window till it now got replaced with a clothing store.

  • @mccartybedell8631
    @mccartybedell8631 8 месяцев назад +2

    Rest in peace, Relish guitars

  • @ericbeich
    @ericbeich 7 месяцев назад

    Had an idea in the 80's for a "sliding pickup" system that let you adjust where the pickups were on the fly, but just an idea.

  • @hypersonicmonkeybrains3418
    @hypersonicmonkeybrains3418 7 месяцев назад

    What people would really find useful is an axefx or helix level amp modeler built into the guitar and a nice color touchscreen display to access it.

  • @baassik8419
    @baassik8419 7 месяцев назад

    Sorry to see them go. I see the usefulness of swapping pickups. The price is a lot for many, but for this design, it is nice! Maybe they will return with lessons learned

  • @JensenAzotea
    @JensenAzotea 8 месяцев назад

    What’s crazy is that this is the first time I’ve heard of them. And they look sick 🤘

  • @Parkerdeal
    @Parkerdeal 5 месяцев назад

    Still rocking my Parker P44 from 2006 to this day! (Alongside a stranberg from last year)

  • @TheInfiniteFret
    @TheInfiniteFret 7 месяцев назад

    I love the comment (and chuckle) at the end: "Ready for more strat and tele clones at NAMM"

  • @georgea7336
    @georgea7336 7 месяцев назад

    I remember the ad that had me BEG my folks for a Parker Fly in Guitar World.....Dave Navarro had just hopped on the RHCP lineup and I wanted that freaking guit! I never got it, ended up buying a used Epi LP, 26 yrs later still got it!

  • @NeMaAn
    @NeMaAn 6 месяцев назад

    Sorry to hear this, they are very cool!

  • @jacobstout9769
    @jacobstout9769 8 месяцев назад

    That's unfortunate. Would have loved to get my hands on one.

  • @FlorentChardevel
    @FlorentChardevel 6 месяцев назад

    Makes me wonder if a company could develop hot swappable pickups that would fit a classic humbucker hole. Would look like the plastic frame around a humbucker, except you'd be able to swap between single coils, P90s and humbuckers at any time.

  • @tonepilot
    @tonepilot 7 месяцев назад

    Oh no. I knew something was going in when their pickups section went offline for months but man. I do own a Relish. Great guitar.

  • @huedue
    @huedue 8 месяцев назад

    That's a good point about the pickups. Nobody's gonna swap them on stage or in a studio for that matter. they'll just pick up a different guitar for a different tone.

  • @chrisorrell3066
    @chrisorrell3066 8 месяцев назад

    Wow that’s too bad. Those are really beautiful guitars!!

  • @squirtle_of_lime5390
    @squirtle_of_lime5390 7 месяцев назад

    That completely sucks, whatever guitars that were left in circulation are gonna sky rocket in price

  • @xlixer7641
    @xlixer7641 6 месяцев назад

    I bet im not alone, but I really wanted one of these when I seen them..I mean I still kind of do, its the closest thing we've had to a "one size fits all" guitar for a home studio. But that price tag always felt way too steep. Im sure if they cheaped out on a few resources/features, & primarily just focused on the swappable pickups. It probably couldve been a reasonable price - & in turn - a hot seller.

  • @tonirasic1728
    @tonirasic1728 8 месяцев назад +2

    They used to have their shop in the next building over. Each morning as i went to buy bread in the bakery i used to ogle those guitars in the windows knowing i could never own them. Then this october i noticed the store was being emptied and later a friend tells me they went bankrupt. Now there's a lingerie store instead

  • @mr.dikkens
    @mr.dikkens 7 месяцев назад

    The relish guitars were a great concept, the problem is mainly that at the pricepoint it becomes too niche, it would’ve been great to see a joint venture with a bigger company who could produce it at lower cost and higher quantity, it could’ve been something.

  • @PeterCleff
    @PeterCleff 7 месяцев назад

    Damn, I really liked the idea! Would have loved to try one at some point.

  • @benmorris118
    @benmorris118 8 месяцев назад

    Hopefully the designers can get a spot in a major guitar company and filter in somr much needed innovation, tempered by the knowledge from the big boys of how to sell volume

  • @tomm5023
    @tomm5023 8 месяцев назад +1

    Rule nr 1: have a product that fills a need, definitely when setting premium prices. I always wondered who would buy this. I’m more interested in guitars that eliminate annoying things like maintenance, such as carbon bodies and steel fretboards and/or improve string changes & tuning. Never cared much about changing pickups, leave alone flipping them on the fly.

  • @BlkwtrPrk
    @BlkwtrPrk 8 месяцев назад

    Ha.. as I was watching this I was thinking of Parker Fly and then you mentioned them. I have one actually. The weight and piezo were cool. Need to replace the pups to get any tone out of it though.

  • @udhi_gn3893
    @udhi_gn3893 6 месяцев назад

    Remember, the guitar market is mostly on retrograde orbit or backwards evolution; the older the guitars are, the higher the demand. That's why there's a market for relic guitars even though they're not really vintage. This sci Fi futuristic guitar stuff is just a niche market at least for now.

  • @ROCKYPOINT3D
    @ROCKYPOINT3D 7 месяцев назад

    It's not always about finding mainstream success. There are many niche guitar builders who have been in business for decades.

  • @coolikep617
    @coolikep617 8 месяцев назад

    As someone who used to be involved in music and live shows 20+years ago, I remember thinking Parker guitars were gonna be the next big thing, cos everyone had one over night, and they were super expensive, I remember they released 2 “less expensive” models that were $999 I think, and then I sorta fell out of the music scene and live audio, but Parker’s sound Uhmazing, they are good quality guitars so im surprised they didn’t get bought out by a bigger company to keep them going, did people stop buying them?

  • @azteriaaa
    @azteriaaa 8 месяцев назад

    aww, i planned to buy one when i had the money, actually kinda sad because i think they were really cool, not just for the pickup switching
    i absolutely love their design and sound

  • @Laithsmiths
    @Laithsmiths 7 месяцев назад

    These are honestly perfect for testing pickups, in terms of debunking or establishing facts around them, and decrease the magical thinking surrounding the electric guitar.

  • @notmillionaires
    @notmillionaires 8 месяцев назад

    Knew nothing about this bit even playing in bands where I always used hight output high distortion pickups I would have totally taken advantage of this feature. More so just at home. But pretty cool innovation to be able to hot swap pickups.

  • @jordanforbes149
    @jordanforbes149 3 месяца назад

    TIL Parker is gone. Best playing guitar I’ve ever tried. Felt incredible.

  • @MrSchism
    @MrSchism 29 дней назад

    Id have loved to get my hands on one.

  • @skim2958
    @skim2958 8 месяцев назад

    I have one. The blue and white one. It is an excellent guitar that plays incredibly well. I don't get why they went out of business

  • @helmanfrow
    @helmanfrow 8 месяцев назад

    Nearly thirty years later I still love my 1996 Parker Fly Classic.

  • @_Ciosu..
    @_Ciosu.. 7 месяцев назад +1

    You can swap pickup ? Okay, that's kinda cool.. But I'm might be too lazy to do that 😂

  • @n1nj4l1nk
    @n1nj4l1nk 7 месяцев назад

    I wish someone would make a guitar with all the best parts of Parker, Relish and Maverick guitars.

  • @tonmikecarn
    @tonmikecarn 8 месяцев назад

    The guitar you want but impossible to get.
    PEAVAY they had in the back a section.
    You could put any 3 of those many sound effects distortion ,echo ECT and mix many ways.

  • @natazer
    @natazer 8 месяцев назад

    I wish i never sold my parker fly deluxe. It was not a perfect guitar, but i liked playing it and adored the scale and playability of the neck.

  • @JosephDillman
    @JosephDillman 7 месяцев назад

    Wow I didn't know Parker went out!