Well, yes, we do, as it happens. You can easily get by rail from the UK to Europe and basically anywhere in Europe you'd want to go. And while the Labour Party and Conservatives stuffed up HS2 (Labour proposed it, many years late after HS1, Conservatives approved it, both failed this city) dozens of pan-European high speed rail projects are going ahead, with the explicit goal to take high speed rail from a small thing to a big thing, that's interconnected in more places. Just because the UK has become bad at implementing stuff, doesn't mean the other countries aren't just getting on with it. Obviously, we can expect this new Labour government to just restart the full HS2 project, because it's financially insane not to spend the money. And surely they have at least one ambition to make our lives better, right? They also, famously care about the north, so will obviously want to do HS3 and go all the way to Scotland too and they won't shy away because they're totally incompetent and untrustworthy with no vision of a bright future for the UK.
This reminds me of what Richard Branson once said when someone asked him what the fastest way to make a million dollars was. "Oh that's easy," replied Branson, the wealthy CEO of Virgin Airlines, "start with a billion, then buy an airline."
@@sweetmyth2537 When said routes are considered essential air service routes. Otherwise, airlines aren't receiving government subsidies to keep prices low.
LCS are buses in the sky. For short flights, my family of 4 or 5 (including my mum) can tolerate the general unpleasantness (all that waiting and queuing) but for longer flights and longer trips, it just doesn't make sense to fly LCS after we add in the extras. (Luggage, more legroom, power plug access, meals, etc.) Full-service carriers costs just 10-15% more after adding the extras in LCS. More importantly, full service carriers makes you feel like a valued customer. And the departure & arrival times are also better for vacationers.
and the airport is very important. going to an airport in teh middle of nowhere and let your car there for 150 euros/dollars adds up and makes the thing no more interesting.
Good points. One needs to compare the total cost involved in any particular trip given the time and money working around what each flight option doesn’t give you. This may include flight times, airport location, baggage allowances as well as what you get or don’t get in the cabin.
Slowly, every channel will become Wendover Productions. It is as certain as the sun rises. TLDR News will, too, become another Wendover Productions channel.
The odd time im interested in one of these videos I just hit chatgdp to tell me the summary and save 10 mins with a few sentences: Is the Era of Low Cost Airlines Over? Summary 🌍 Global Impact of Low-Cost Airlines: Revolutionized air travel, making it more accessible worldwide. 📉 Current Struggles: US carriers like Southwest, Spirit, and JetBlue face post-pandemic financial challenges. 💼 Southwest Issues: Largest US domestic airline; activist investor demands leadership change due to poor performance. 💸 Profit Margins: Spirit and JetBlue haven't turned a profit since the pandemic. 🛫 LCA Business Model: Focus on no-frills, low-cost service with fees for extras like boarding or baggage. 👷 Staffing Shortages: Airlines face difficulties hiring pilots and crew post-pandemic. ✈ Aircraft Delays: Boeing and Airbus delays due to supply chain disruptions affect expansion. ⛽ Fuel Costs: Rising fuel prices hit LCAs harder due to thinner profit margins. ⚙ Inflation: Increased costs for maintenance, parts, and airport fees. 🧳 Leisure Customers: LCAs focus on leisure travelers, who are now more price-sensitive in a tough economic climate. 🎯 Changing Expectations: Travelers demand more convenience and flexibility from LCAs, making full-service carriers more attractive. 🛬 Legacy Competition: Major airlines now offer cheaper, no-frills options, further challenging LCAs. 🇪🇺 European Market: Even more competitive and environmentally conscious, with travelers opting for alternatives to flying. 💡 Adapting to Customers: LCAs need to focus on providing better value beyond just low prices to retain their customer base. 📱 Sponsor - Imprint: Promotes lifelong learning with visual, interactive courses on psychology, history, and more. First 200 users get 20% off annual plans.
yes and no. as more youtube channel come online, its inevitable for multiple channels to talk about the same topic. But Wendover Productions has a very specific storytelling style that really goes into depth into certain topics (just like Cleo Adams) that i appreciate. On the otherhand, I appreciate TLDR Business's very specific storytelling style, where its super blunt and straight to the point, which makes it so British imho lol
American LCCs are actually salary competitive. Southwest pays just as much as the legacy carriers. The difference is they're operating more flights in a day. Southwest's big problem right now is Boeing. Thanks to the whole debacle with the MAX, they don't have the right planes for a big portion of their network. They're being forced to run 800 or MAX8 aircraft on routes where they should be using 700 or MAX7 planes, the latter still yet to be certified. It it wasn't for that, their numbers would much closer to legacy carriers.
I've started travelling again in the last couple of years. After you add a check-in bag (and some cheap airlines require you to pay extra even for carry-on), the price difference is within 10%. On a few occasions, the "premium" airlines were even cheaper after factoring in all the costs. Or because the cheap airlines arrive in the middle of the night, you end up paying extra for renting a car cause the cheap car rental places don't want to pay for nightshift, same with hotels, it isn't good value to get there at 4am but still pay for the full night and miss out of dinner.
Ryanair seems to be doing pretty well in Europe still. Though prices are not as low as they were, say, 10 years ago. I remember booking a flight from Brussels to Madrid (about a 3 hour flight) and back which set me back a whopping 160 euro. And that's for both flights combined, including a checked-in bag, and seat reservation. Now I wouldn't be able to book that flight anymore because ryanair doesn't really fly from Brussels anymore because it's too expensive. But doing a similar flight from the nearest airport they do still serve would set me back 300 euro today. In any case, I value comfort a lot more now than I did then so I no longer fly Ryanair if I can avoid it. For my last travel (to Greece last month) I picked a legacy carrier and went Business class for the first time in my life. And now I'm spoiled forever, business class rules.
I remember travelling with Ryanair from my hometown in Spain to Stockholm for 1€ plus taxes. It was cheaper to travel to Stockholm than to take a taxi to the airport. But like you, I also value certain comfort now and it's been more than a decade that I simply ignore Ryanair.
Europe is a goldmine for cheap and fast travel. You can travel from Italy to Germany and you're literally in a different world because the countries are so close together while offering a completely different culture (same for France, Netherlands, England, etc.). It's not like the US where you travel from dystopian McDonalds city without a walkable inner city to dystopian McDonalds car-city.
Try 17 euros Berlin to London it used to be so cheap I'd book flights and rebook if I was hungover or wanted to hang out with friends longer I even commuted to London weekly for 3 months.
I mean, air travel has been in crisis since it's inception. Basically the answer is they don't know how to make a business model; yet, they keep working and making tons of money. So apparently the problem is not as big, the problem seems more of an unrealistic expectation of neverending and ever growing profits (the same problem all other induestries have).
and you have also to consider that airlines have toooooons of regulation they need to abide by (otherwise governments will actually block them from operating). So (luckily for everyone but the greedy fuckers at the top) they can't cut operational costs Which also means they have to make tickets as expensive as possible, and squeeze seats as much as possible to be even barely profitable Btw trains are just better. If only we lived in a world where everywhere was built like switzerland and you could go anywhere by train (plains make sense only for veeeeery long travels, and travels over an ocean)
@no_name4796 train travel in Switzerland is so expensive though... The 60km, 35 minute train from Genève to Lausanne is over €40 return if I remember right. Everything is more expensive in Switzerland but it does feel disproportionately more expensive compared to most European countries (and feels even more expensive than the UK although maybe not compared to local wages). There is definitely a cost to Swiss trains
I forget who it was that said it, but there was a quote I heard once "If you gave an investment banker a time machine, they'd use it to shoot the Wright Brothers" or something like that. Since its inception, aviation has been a protected, subsidised industry with almost all the major companies having gone bankrupt and/or bailed out at some point or another.
So many problems in the world are because people can't stop screwing with a good thing. "We made a million dollars...we must make TWO million dollars!" until the whole thing collapses.
Exactly. Airlines have always been a struggling business which is due the high investment cost and marginal profit (because of high competition). The only way out would be a monopolisation of the industry and therefore higher prices. Actually, IMO this is peak capitalism at work. These companies are operating at the most efficient level in a high safety business (nearly no accidents). That's how it should be. Imagine if train operators (especially in Germany) would do their job like that instead of delivering the lowest possible service at the highest possible price. Socialism at work.
First it was Corona, then it was Energy and now its Ukraine, they will always find a reason to not lower the prices when the reason before doesn't apply.
1:00, you can see Spirit and Jetblue failing to break even and posting losses, there's not much more price drop they can engage in. And Southwest who did post a profit had a profit margin of 2-3%, even if they eliminated all profits, ticket prices would drop by a measly portion.
It should be mentioned that there's a difference between low cost, and ultra low cost airlines. Spirit and Frontier are the only ultra low cost airlines in the US I can think of, and they truly don't offer anything extra as standard. Crunched legroom, no bags, no snacks, the whole nine yards. On the other hand, low cost airlines like jetBlue and Southwest have much better legroom (jetBlue arguably the best economy legroom in the us), free snacks, and personal entertainment of some kind. They are still low cost in, as you said, that they fly only 1 or 2 aircraft types, and fly mostly point to point.
I used to fly and travel a lot, I've been to 72 countries. Air travel is so hideous now I prefer to stay home or travel by car, I've stopped long distance travel. The few low cost carriers I've been on were so dreadful, uncomfortable and made you feel more like cattle than human, will never use them again.
@@nakhonsisean don't mix up truth with arrogance. My statement still stands. If your successful you fly in the front of the plane, if your not.... your at the back so don't complain, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR, what is arrogant about that statement???
@@charlesjay8818 Wow! Even more arrogance! Successful in what way? Money is not the only measure of success. I'm a successful teacher. But teachers are not the best paid people around.
In my teenage years i've flown both low cost, and flag carrier... Now that i'm paying, i'm choosing the flag carrier every time. the extra on short to medium flights isn't that bad it you're willing to fly at garbage times, and the extra service and comfort are much appreciated
Trips around europe are usually short, i have very little luggage so cheap flights are perfect. I don't need food or drinks or anything on a 2 hour flight. Brussels edinburg on ryanair is 130 euros 2 way. On brussels airways it was about 700. Both on friday evening. Intercontinental i will always fly business on a high quality airline.
From my understanding though the US never really had cheap airlines like Europe. Even when accounting for distance, they were still usually x2-x3 the price of Europes cheap airlines like Ryanair, Wizair or even the much more expensive easy jet. Now, obviously, this is because of the higher income in the US along with more expensive airports. Bit still a cheap plane ticket in the US is $100 in Europe I took 6 flights for a little over that price in 2023. And they weren't short either Scotland- Germany €15 Belgium - Israel €32 Israel- Romania €20 Romania Scotland €20 Scotland - Bulgaria €25 Bulgaria-Scotland €20 Thing is no other airline aside for Ryanair could even hope to match those prices. Wiz air and Easy jet regularly go from €60-100 per flight sometimes.
I flew from Manchester to Madeira (4 hours) for £40 each way. So cheap it's insane. This was on February outside of school holidays but easyJet is still so cheap.
You just scratched the surface, what about lost baggage, check-in apps that don't work on Android, no refunds for canceled flights. Once even the air company went bankrupt literally mid-air when I was flying, that was WOW Air in 2019. What's the point of going on vacation if you constantly fear what could happen with your flight. No thanks.
As someone who sometimes travel... I prefer to avoid flying as much as possible. Not cause fear of "flying" but cause of fear of "mega annoyances and uncomfortablities" Heck the last time I flew...I was taking an in Europe flight and suddenly customs closes infront of me and the worker says to go to another building. I was like : "Wait there is another line for in Europe there can I--" JUst keep getting interrupted and to go to the other building. We all went there, the worker: "This is for Asia.. not Europe." You guessed it.. the custom that closed was both Europe and Asia and the worker send us to a different building all together. I HAD TO WALK BACK TO THE SPOT I KNEW I HAD TO GO TO BUT THE WORKERS DENIED ME THIS! And hten at customs.. "Your bag is too big for onflight" Me: "No.. I checked and measured it.. it's the right size..." They checked it again... Well yes but not on THIS PLANE! This is a different plane. I am like DIFFERENT?! Acording to the website-- Ooh yea it turned it out it was a Propeller plane.. a city hopper. So now my bag is TOO BIG cause the carry on compartment is too small. So now I had to pay extra and spend more times requeing to get my back checked. YIPPIE! Ooh and you guessed it on the way back home from my destination my bag was fine to come on board cause it wasn't a hopper. And then I arrived at the gate and... FLIGHT DELAYED BY 2 HOURS. And that was one expirence with flying.. cause on the flight back.. apperently something in my luggage was illegal to bring on planes and I was like "HUH? I brought it into the country.. how is it ILLEGAL NOW?!" Cause of security reasons and...--- My dude.. it was in my laptop back on the way over and customs/security didn't stop me back then. It was a tool to fix my laptop if it potentially breaks. Well fine throw it away I don't care... So now I am like: "I rather take a boat for a day then fly anywhere. Unless it's like ultra cheap. If it saves me 10 euros no way. If it saves me 50 euros.. I'll consider it." But other wise.. I rather take the slower and more comfortable trains/busses where I have more control of my movement and luggage and I know where it is. Rather then the plane.. cause even the worst busses... Are basically economy class on cheap flights anyway. But atleast I know my luggage is in the boot of the bus and if the bus gets delayed or gets canceled...I can take a Taxi or something else.
I manage super cheap flights for holidays. Keys to still getting the best bang for buck? DONT BUY ANYTHING BUT THE SEAT. Only hand luggage, don't purchase food, travel light, and sort all the admin work yourself and it's so very cheap. Add lots of things and you get the cost tripled.
Looking at growth rates of low-cost vs full-service airlines globally, it is clear that this is exclusively an American phenomenon. The US market never had much low cost traffic in the first place, nevermind ultra-low-cost-carriers. Claiming that low-cost airlines are struggling while Ryanair is about to grow into the largest airline in the world is nonsense.
I love budget airline especially Ryan air, I split my time between Ireland and the Uk tickets can be as cheap as £30 if your smart about it. Long live Ryanair
1. European carriers are picking LCAs' business methods, particularly for checked-in baggage and onboard meals. For instance SA and British Airways. 2. Some LCA while pricing the seat quite cheap on the "flight search engine", can cost up similar to a full-service carrier when adding other costs. I had an experience flying from Copenhagen to Penang via Istanbul which requires a connection in Kuala Lumpur. AirAsia's price looked very enticing, but when calculating the cost for two suitcases, I decided to fly with Malaysia Airlines which has a checked-in allowance included and the experience would be far better than AirAsia (from counter check-in, waiting at the gate and boarding). 3. In my experience, LCA is when you are travelling light. I don't avoid LCA, I still fly with RyanAir but if Vueling is available (or the price difference is around €20-30), I'd opt for the latter.
Makes me wonder if the trend of Prestige Airlines mostly hiring pilots with military backgrounds, and Budget Airlines mostly hiring people without is still a thing.
The problem with LCA's IMO are the customers. I blame airlines like Southwest for helping create this mindset and airline culture. People rarely have loyalty to a carrier these days. What people want is; a cheap ticket, first class seating/legroom, HOT meals, direct flights, free unlimtited baggage, FREE meals, easier TSA (security), and wide body airplanes on EVERY route (had someone in Moline, Illinois complain that we were on a regional jet and not a Boeing 757 to go the 1 hr flight to Dallas). All of those asks are SO unrealistic and very expensive if an airline implements those things, without raising ticket prices. I've literally seen someone post a video of their LAX to LAS flight in first class and get upset at the airline for not providing a Emirates level first class service on a 30 minute flight. Airlines like Virgin America and such failed and were bought out because they attempted to satisfy the passenger/customer with shiny amenities and low fares, meanwhile they could never turn a profit and ended up going bankrupt or absorbed by another carrier.
I'm old enough to remember the 1970s and how a Labour Transport Secretary on the Left of the party tried to stop Freddie Laker's SkyTrain: a competitor to the UK's monopoly (up until that point) state carrier. My mother was the first person in my family to fly: to Spain with a friend on a package holiday around 1975. Flying for the ordinary person was still very expensive for ordinary people then. Thank goodness for competition, which really took off in the 1990s; and in Europe was supported by the European Commission and EU law.
Costs have been rising, particularly crew wages, and these costs haven't been able to be passed off in higher fares without cratering demand. Airlines have to pack planes to the gills to make it so 70% load factors aren't possible.
My opinion would be cost of entry is too high and when their profit margins isn’t high any disruption means they don’t have enough earning from when it’s profitable to last through
SouthWest is the only US major to still over free checked bags and two of them. Try your luck @ UA, Delta, or AA. Free meals? Maybe around 2008 you'd have a chance to see that on a domestic full service carrier. Loyalty programs have all spiraled down the toilet in the last 6+ years, so to bring that up now is a tad mysterious. And JetBlue and SouthWest offer perfectly functional loyalty programs. You did not provide a proper solution out of the problem for them. I also believe that the acronym is LCC (low cost carrier) not LCA. The video needs some fixes.
I haven't considered Southwest a low-price carrier for decades. It's nothing like WizzAir or RyanAir in Europe. Really none of the US carriers use the really budget elements of busses and stairways and flying to a Parisian-labeled airport that's not in France. Still Southwest is rarely price competitive, though they are flexible. It was a bit misleading to talk about rail in Europe as an alternative because the trend is quite the other way around. Budget airlines have been taking market share from rail for over a decade now and it's been a problem for DB and ÖBB and other international operators.
Its also gonna get more expensive because as our planet warms up its gonna make airplanes fuel cost more because its gonna make the air hotter and increase the need for more use of fuel over time
Wendover Productions did a much better video on this and the European carriers are profitable with WizzAir posting 365m profits and Ryanair posting 1.9 billion profits.
You should mention the lack of reliability as well. In my experience LCAs have more delays and cancellations, and having it happen even once (and then having to but last-minute tickets) will obliterate your savings from multiple flights
How can an american airline be in losses i mean the only competition for them are railways which are privatised and very expensive as well as slow so they all have a sort of monopoly over long distance travel
Small electric planes are coming in the relatively near future, at least in terms of buying aircraft and ships and the like so even if the low cost airlines struggle now, the nature of short flights is going to change in a number of ways. Not to mention the massive ramp up in high speed rail projects across all the bits of Europe you'd want visit, and also Germany.* Airships might do something for us but I think it's fair to say that remains to be seen, unlike hydrogen based cars which are a disappointment and will never help us. Hyperloop is still making progress but once the technology is ready, you'd never either new tunnels or highly upgraded ones and it's probably not going to be useful for anything but mid-range trips anyway (not much point if you stop the thing every 20 miles but great to go from London to Paris, or Edinburgh). Basically, the future is bright but ditch your ICE car and acknowledge that we did land on the moon, do need to colonise Mars so we don't eat an asteroid for breakfast that wipes out all life on Earth including us, the Earth is not flat, and climate change is real and solvable. *Feel free to insert your European country of choice that you've no interest in visiting and want to poke fun at like Monaco, or Austria, or Italy.
to be honnest, LCAs are only competitive when you take one flight point to point flight and when you have an easy access to teh airport. but they choose the shittiest airport that are so expensive to reach and they try to screw you with additional fees for everything, you usually end up more expensive than a legacy carrier cheap spot even with a connection. and when there is an issue, the LCA just dumps you without any service or whatsoever, you have paid, they don´t care about afterwards. LCAs are on my nogo list since a couple of years due to that "flight experience" -> never ever again unless there is no other option. they are a bus and do not ask more than you would ask to a bus.
Thank god we have a robust international rail network to pick up the slack right?
*cries Scottish tears*
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we have robust national rail network (with few exceptions)
That's already something
Well, yes, we do, as it happens. You can easily get by rail from the UK to Europe and basically anywhere in Europe you'd want to go. And while the Labour Party and Conservatives stuffed up HS2 (Labour proposed it, many years late after HS1, Conservatives approved it, both failed this city) dozens of pan-European high speed rail projects are going ahead, with the explicit goal to take high speed rail from a small thing to a big thing, that's interconnected in more places. Just because the UK has become bad at implementing stuff, doesn't mean the other countries aren't just getting on with it.
Obviously, we can expect this new Labour government to just restart the full HS2 project, because it's financially insane not to spend the money. And surely they have at least one ambition to make our lives better, right? They also, famously care about the north, so will obviously want to do HS3 and go all the way to Scotland too and they won't shy away because they're totally incompetent and untrustworthy with no vision of a bright future for the UK.
This reminds me of what Richard Branson once said when someone asked him what the fastest way to make a million dollars was. "Oh that's easy," replied Branson, the wealthy CEO of Virgin Airlines, "start with a billion, then buy an airline."
Is important to remember airlines get a lot for Government subsidies for the price of lower tickets
@@sweetmyth2537 When said routes are considered essential air service routes. Otherwise, airlines aren't receiving government subsidies to keep prices low.
@@erauprcwa Yeah, in fact, they're often taxed for environmental reasons.
LCS are buses in the sky. For short flights, my family of 4 or 5 (including my mum) can tolerate the general unpleasantness (all that waiting and queuing) but for longer flights and longer trips, it just doesn't make sense to fly LCS after we add in the extras. (Luggage, more legroom, power plug access, meals, etc.) Full-service carriers costs just 10-15% more after adding the extras in LCS.
More importantly, full service carriers makes you feel like a valued customer. And the departure & arrival times are also better for vacationers.
and the airport is very important. going to an airport in teh middle of nowhere and let your car there for 150 euros/dollars adds up and makes the thing no more interesting.
@@benjaminlamey3591 well I have experience Tegel airport so yah... 😅 I'm glad Brandenburg is open now so it should be better.
Good points. One needs to compare the total cost involved in any particular trip given the time and money working around what each flight option doesn’t give you. This may include flight times, airport location, baggage allowances as well as what you get or don’t get in the cabin.
Slowly, every channel will become Wendover Productions. It is as certain as the sun rises. TLDR News will, too, become another Wendover Productions channel.
Is the Crabification of the average RUclips Channel
Just for MrBeast and CoCoMelon to talk about the USA train logistics.
Is Wendover Mr Beast?
The odd time im interested in one of these videos I just hit chatgdp to tell me the summary and save 10 mins with a few sentences:
Is the Era of Low Cost Airlines Over?
Summary
🌍 Global Impact of Low-Cost Airlines: Revolutionized air travel, making it more accessible worldwide.
📉 Current Struggles: US carriers like Southwest, Spirit, and JetBlue face post-pandemic financial challenges.
💼 Southwest Issues: Largest US domestic airline; activist investor demands leadership change due to poor performance.
💸 Profit Margins: Spirit and JetBlue haven't turned a profit since the pandemic.
🛫 LCA Business Model: Focus on no-frills, low-cost service with fees for extras like boarding or baggage.
👷 Staffing Shortages: Airlines face difficulties hiring pilots and crew post-pandemic.
✈ Aircraft Delays: Boeing and Airbus delays due to supply chain disruptions affect expansion.
⛽ Fuel Costs: Rising fuel prices hit LCAs harder due to thinner profit margins.
⚙ Inflation: Increased costs for maintenance, parts, and airport fees.
🧳 Leisure Customers: LCAs focus on leisure travelers, who are now more price-sensitive in a tough economic climate.
🎯 Changing Expectations: Travelers demand more convenience and flexibility from LCAs, making full-service carriers more attractive.
🛬 Legacy Competition: Major airlines now offer cheaper, no-frills options, further challenging LCAs.
🇪🇺 European Market: Even more competitive and environmentally conscious, with travelers opting for alternatives to flying.
💡 Adapting to Customers: LCAs need to focus on providing better value beyond just low prices to retain their customer base.
📱 Sponsor - Imprint: Promotes lifelong learning with visual, interactive courses on psychology, history, and more. First 200 users get 20% off annual plans.
yes and no. as more youtube channel come online, its inevitable for multiple channels to talk about the same topic. But Wendover Productions has a very specific storytelling style that really goes into depth into certain topics (just like Cleo Adams) that i appreciate. On the otherhand, I appreciate TLDR Business's very specific storytelling style, where its super blunt and straight to the point, which makes it so British imho lol
@@97Corvi Carcinisation is a great word
American LCCs are actually salary competitive. Southwest pays just as much as the legacy carriers. The difference is they're operating more flights in a day.
Southwest's big problem right now is Boeing. Thanks to the whole debacle with the MAX, they don't have the right planes for a big portion of their network. They're being forced to run 800 or MAX8 aircraft on routes where they should be using 700 or MAX7 planes, the latter still yet to be certified. It it wasn't for that, their numbers would much closer to legacy carriers.
I've started travelling again in the last couple of years. After you add a check-in bag (and some cheap airlines require you to pay extra even for carry-on), the price difference is within 10%. On a few occasions, the "premium" airlines were even cheaper after factoring in all the costs. Or because the cheap airlines arrive in the middle of the night, you end up paying extra for renting a car cause the cheap car rental places don't want to pay for nightshift, same with hotels, it isn't good value to get there at 4am but still pay for the full night and miss out of dinner.
I'm a pilot, and I've never used the acronym "LCA" lol, we always call them "LCC" Low Cost Carriers
Ryanair seems to be doing pretty well in Europe still. Though prices are not as low as they were, say, 10 years ago. I remember booking a flight from Brussels to Madrid (about a 3 hour flight) and back which set me back a whopping 160 euro. And that's for both flights combined, including a checked-in bag, and seat reservation.
Now I wouldn't be able to book that flight anymore because ryanair doesn't really fly from Brussels anymore because it's too expensive.
But doing a similar flight from the nearest airport they do still serve would set me back 300 euro today.
In any case, I value comfort a lot more now than I did then so I no longer fly Ryanair if I can avoid it. For my last travel (to Greece last month) I picked a legacy carrier and went Business class for the first time in my life. And now I'm spoiled forever, business class rules.
I remember travelling with Ryanair from my hometown in Spain to Stockholm for 1€ plus taxes. It was cheaper to travel to Stockholm than to take a taxi to the airport. But like you, I also value certain comfort now and it's been more than a decade that I simply ignore Ryanair.
Europe is a goldmine for cheap and fast travel. You can travel from Italy to Germany and you're literally in a different world because the countries are so close together while offering a completely different culture (same for France, Netherlands, England, etc.). It's not like the US where you travel from dystopian McDonalds city without a walkable inner city to dystopian McDonalds car-city.
Try 17 euros Berlin to London it used to be so cheap I'd book flights and rebook if I was hungover or wanted to hang out with friends longer I even commuted to London weekly for 3 months.
Seems like an american not a European problem
Ryanair is in financial trouble as well.
easyJet and I think Wizz are doing fine though.
@@drscopeifyRyanair is profitable.
@@Squaretable22 Are they?
US is solidly European
Latin America is where actual Americans still reside as Canada chose genocide as well.
I mean, air travel has been in crisis since it's inception. Basically the answer is they don't know how to make a business model; yet, they keep working and making tons of money. So apparently the problem is not as big, the problem seems more of an unrealistic expectation of neverending and ever growing profits (the same problem all other induestries have).
and you have also to consider that airlines have toooooons of regulation they need to abide by (otherwise governments will actually block them from operating). So (luckily for everyone but the greedy fuckers at the top) they can't cut operational costs
Which also means they have to make tickets as expensive as possible, and squeeze seats as much as possible to be even barely profitable
Btw trains are just better. If only we lived in a world where everywhere was built like switzerland and you could go anywhere by train (plains make sense only for veeeeery long travels, and travels over an ocean)
@no_name4796 train travel in Switzerland is so expensive though... The 60km, 35 minute train from Genève to Lausanne is over €40 return if I remember right. Everything is more expensive in Switzerland but it does feel disproportionately more expensive compared to most European countries (and feels even more expensive than the UK although maybe not compared to local wages). There is definitely a cost to Swiss trains
I forget who it was that said it, but there was a quote I heard once "If you gave an investment banker a time machine, they'd use it to shoot the Wright Brothers"
or something like that. Since its inception, aviation has been a protected, subsidised industry with almost all the major companies having gone bankrupt and/or bailed out at some point or another.
So many problems in the world are because people can't stop screwing with a good thing. "We made a million dollars...we must make TWO million dollars!" until the whole thing collapses.
Exactly. Airlines have always been a struggling business which is due the high investment cost and marginal profit (because of high competition). The only way out would be a monopolisation of the industry and therefore higher prices. Actually, IMO this is peak capitalism at work. These companies are operating at the most efficient level in a high safety business (nearly no accidents). That's how it should be. Imagine if train operators (especially in Germany) would do their job like that instead of delivering the lowest possible service at the highest possible price. Socialism at work.
The common person can only be squeezed so much.
I kinda feel like Jack only made this video just so he could make a bunch of plane puns 😂
First it was Corona, then it was Energy and now its Ukraine, they will always find a reason to not lower the prices when the reason before doesn't apply.
Greedflation out of control
Gotta love capitalism, where the poor defends their slave masters
1:00, you can see Spirit and Jetblue failing to break even and posting losses, there's not much more price drop they can engage in. And Southwest who did post a profit had a profit margin of 2-3%, even if they eliminated all profits, ticket prices would drop by a measly portion.
luckily demand for air travel is elastic... can't keep raising prices forever
@@matteframe they will raise it just enough that people won't stop buying
It should be mentioned that there's a difference between low cost, and ultra low cost airlines. Spirit and Frontier are the only ultra low cost airlines in the US I can think of, and they truly don't offer anything extra as standard. Crunched legroom, no bags, no snacks, the whole nine yards. On the other hand, low cost airlines like jetBlue and Southwest have much better legroom (jetBlue arguably the best economy legroom in the us), free snacks, and personal entertainment of some kind. They are still low cost in, as you said, that they fly only 1 or 2 aircraft types, and fly mostly point to point.
The amount of plane puns in this video are really taking off.
American low cost airlines... Certainly not in Europe or Asia
I used to fly and travel a lot, I've been to 72 countries. Air travel is so hideous now I prefer to stay home or travel by car, I've stopped long distance travel. The few low cost carriers I've been on were so dreadful, uncomfortable and made you feel more like cattle than human, will never use them again.
i fly at the front of the plane and never had a bad experience
If your flying economy then you get what you pay for
@@charlesjay8818 Not everyone has the choice of flying in premium classes. Rather arrogant coment!
@@charlesjay8818 That's a rather arrogant comment! Many people do not have the option of flying premium classes.
@@nakhonsisean don't mix up truth with arrogance. My statement still stands. If your successful you fly in the front of the plane, if your not.... your at the back so don't complain, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR, what is arrogant about that statement???
@@charlesjay8818 Wow! Even more arrogance! Successful in what way? Money is not the only measure of success. I'm a successful teacher. But teachers are not the best paid people around.
In my teenage years i've flown both low cost, and flag carrier... Now that i'm paying, i'm choosing the flag carrier every time. the extra on short to medium flights isn't that bad it you're willing to fly at garbage times, and the extra service and comfort are much appreciated
Trips around europe are usually short, i have very little luggage so cheap flights are perfect. I don't need food or drinks or anything on a 2 hour flight.
Brussels edinburg on ryanair is 130 euros 2 way. On brussels airways it was about 700. Both on friday evening.
Intercontinental i will always fly business on a high quality airline.
@@rogerk6180 that's fair, but if you're willing to fly at an uncomfortable time, that flag carrier can come down to 150.
From my understanding though the US never really had cheap airlines like Europe. Even when accounting for distance, they were still usually x2-x3 the price of Europes cheap airlines like Ryanair, Wizair or even the much more expensive easy jet. Now, obviously, this is because of the higher income in the US along with more expensive airports. Bit still a cheap plane ticket in the US is $100 in Europe I took 6 flights for a little over that price in 2023. And they weren't short either
Scotland- Germany €15
Belgium - Israel €32
Israel- Romania €20
Romania Scotland €20
Scotland - Bulgaria €25
Bulgaria-Scotland €20
Thing is no other airline aside for Ryanair could even hope to match those prices. Wiz air and Easy jet regularly go from €60-100 per flight sometimes.
I flew from Manchester to Madeira (4 hours) for £40 each way. So cheap it's insane.
This was on February outside of school holidays but easyJet is still so cheap.
Yeah I was shook when I tried to fly round the US at how expensive it was compared to Europe.
You just scratched the surface, what about lost baggage, check-in apps that don't work on Android, no refunds for canceled flights. Once even the air company went bankrupt literally mid-air when I was flying, that was WOW Air in 2019. What's the point of going on vacation if you constantly fear what could happen with your flight. No thanks.
As someone who sometimes travel... I prefer to avoid flying as much as possible.
Not cause fear of "flying" but cause of fear of "mega annoyances and uncomfortablities"
Heck the last time I flew...I was taking an in Europe flight and suddenly customs closes infront of me and the worker says to go to another building. I was like : "Wait there is another line for in Europe there can I--" JUst keep getting interrupted and to go to the other building. We all went there, the worker: "This is for Asia.. not Europe." You guessed it.. the custom that closed was both Europe and Asia and the worker send us to a different building all together. I HAD TO WALK BACK TO THE SPOT I KNEW I HAD TO GO TO BUT THE WORKERS DENIED ME THIS!
And hten at customs.. "Your bag is too big for onflight" Me: "No.. I checked and measured it.. it's the right size..." They checked it again... Well yes but not on THIS PLANE! This is a different plane. I am like DIFFERENT?! Acording to the website-- Ooh yea it turned it out it was a Propeller plane.. a city hopper. So now my bag is TOO BIG cause the carry on compartment is too small.
So now I had to pay extra and spend more times requeing to get my back checked. YIPPIE! Ooh and you guessed it on the way back home from my destination my bag was fine to come on board cause it wasn't a hopper.
And then I arrived at the gate and... FLIGHT DELAYED BY 2 HOURS.
And that was one expirence with flying.. cause on the flight back.. apperently something in my luggage was illegal to bring on planes and I was like "HUH? I brought it into the country.. how is it ILLEGAL NOW?!" Cause of security reasons and...--- My dude.. it was in my laptop back on the way over and customs/security didn't stop me back then. It was a tool to fix my laptop if it potentially breaks. Well fine throw it away I don't care...
So now I am like: "I rather take a boat for a day then fly anywhere. Unless it's like ultra cheap. If it saves me 10 euros no way. If it saves me 50 euros.. I'll consider it."
But other wise.. I rather take the slower and more comfortable trains/busses where I have more control of my movement and luggage and I know where it is. Rather then the plane.. cause even the worst busses... Are basically economy class on cheap flights anyway. But atleast I know my luggage is in the boot of the bus and if the bus gets delayed or gets canceled...I can take a Taxi or something else.
Why everybody forgets the ENGINEERS! We are the ones who make things fly and keep them flying.
Low cost airlines aren’t that cheap anymore with the amount they charge for everything else
I manage super cheap flights for holidays.
Keys to still getting the best bang for buck? DONT BUY ANYTHING BUT THE SEAT.
Only hand luggage, don't purchase food, travel light, and sort all the admin work yourself and it's so very cheap.
Add lots of things and you get the cost tripled.
depends if you get the everything else
A different sponsor other than Brilliant? Impossible!
Ngl, Southwest Airlines is kind of cool here in the US especially with the rewards programs…
Looking at growth rates of low-cost vs full-service airlines globally, it is clear that this is exclusively an American phenomenon. The US market never had much low cost traffic in the first place, nevermind ultra-low-cost-carriers. Claiming that low-cost airlines are struggling while Ryanair is about to grow into the largest airline in the world is nonsense.
I love budget airline especially Ryan air, I split my time between Ireland and the Uk tickets can be as cheap as £30 if your smart about it. Long live Ryanair
On the last three trips I have taken the low cost carriers had significantly higher ticket prices than the traditional carriers.
1. European carriers are picking LCAs' business methods, particularly for checked-in baggage and onboard meals. For instance SA and British Airways.
2. Some LCA while pricing the seat quite cheap on the "flight search engine", can cost up similar to a full-service carrier when adding other costs. I had an experience flying from Copenhagen to Penang via Istanbul which requires a connection in Kuala Lumpur. AirAsia's price looked very enticing, but when calculating the cost for two suitcases, I decided to fly with Malaysia Airlines which has a checked-in allowance included and the experience would be far better than AirAsia (from counter check-in, waiting at the gate and boarding).
3. In my experience, LCA is when you are travelling light. I don't avoid LCA, I still fly with RyanAir but if Vueling is available (or the price difference is around €20-30), I'd opt for the latter.
I noticed the cost difference between LCA and larger airline is getting smaller. Doesn't make sense to go with LCA....
Makes me wonder if the trend of Prestige Airlines mostly hiring pilots with military backgrounds, and Budget Airlines mostly hiring people without is still a thing.
I think you missed out on mentionining that Ryanair profits in 23/24 are the highest they have ever seen.
Funny u showed train as an option... you should investigate into DB / Deutsche Bahn (German Railways) ...
Bad joke, but it's ironic that the video's length is 9:11.
clearly intended
And did u see the thumbnail 😂 lol
it is very insensitive
Soaring operating costs have recently exerted ominous effects on the LCA as profits dwindle and competition from legacy carriers increases.
The problem with LCA's IMO are the customers. I blame airlines like Southwest for helping create this mindset and airline culture. People rarely have loyalty to a carrier these days. What people want is; a cheap ticket, first class seating/legroom, HOT meals, direct flights, free unlimtited baggage, FREE meals, easier TSA (security), and wide body airplanes on EVERY route (had someone in Moline, Illinois complain that we were on a regional jet and not a Boeing 757 to go the 1 hr flight to Dallas).
All of those asks are SO unrealistic and very expensive if an airline implements those things, without raising ticket prices.
I've literally seen someone post a video of their LAX to LAS flight in first class and get upset at the airline for not providing a Emirates level first class service on a 30 minute flight. Airlines like Virgin America and such failed and were bought out because they attempted to satisfy the passenger/customer with shiny amenities and low fares, meanwhile they could never turn a profit and ended up going bankrupt or absorbed by another carrier.
It has become very expensive to fly!! With bad service and food 😢
Oh no, given the current situation, don't know if Jetblue would be forced to sell its JFK slot?
I'm old enough to remember the 1970s and how a Labour Transport Secretary on the Left of the party tried to stop Freddie Laker's SkyTrain: a competitor to the UK's monopoly (up until that point) state carrier. My mother was the first person in my family to fly: to Spain with a friend on a package holiday around 1975. Flying for the ordinary person was still very expensive for ordinary people then. Thank goodness for competition, which really took off in the 1990s; and in Europe was supported by the European Commission and EU law.
Heinous amount of puns in this video
These days: low cost airline ticket price + luggage = price of ticket on normal airline
Costs have been rising, particularly crew wages, and these costs haven't been able to be passed off in higher fares without cratering demand. Airlines have to pack planes to the gills to make it so 70% load factors aren't possible.
My opinion would be cost of entry is too high and when their profit margins isn’t high any disruption means they don’t have enough earning from when it’s profitable to last through
Before I even play it, the answer is: No.
Good video - but you could do with a lower-profile mic.
AirAsia: Am I a joke to you?
Different market and different needs.
Big problem with Spirit and JetBlue is that they don’t fly to many places like Southwest.
sure hope so
LCCs. Low cost carriers.
Not LCA
SouthWest is the only US major to still over free checked bags and two of them. Try your luck @ UA, Delta, or AA.
Free meals? Maybe around 2008 you'd have a chance to see that on a domestic full service carrier.
Loyalty programs have all spiraled down the toilet in the last 6+ years, so to bring that up now is a tad mysterious. And JetBlue and SouthWest offer perfectly functional loyalty programs.
You did not provide a proper solution out of the problem for them.
I also believe that the acronym is LCC (low cost carrier) not LCA.
The video needs some fixes.
J9 is my favorite LCC.
I haven't considered Southwest a low-price carrier for decades. It's nothing like WizzAir or RyanAir in Europe. Really none of the US carriers use the really budget elements of busses and stairways and flying to a Parisian-labeled airport that's not in France. Still Southwest is rarely price competitive, though they are flexible.
It was a bit misleading to talk about rail in Europe as an alternative because the trend is quite the other way around. Budget airlines have been taking market share from rail for over a decade now and it's been a problem for DB and ÖBB and other international operators.
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There’s no such thing as low cost. What you save in money you lose in dignity.
I mean… Europe still has Ryanair and Asia has a slew of similar airlines.
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Its also gonna get more expensive because as our planet warms up its gonna make airplanes fuel cost more because its gonna make the air hotter and increase the need for more use of fuel over time
It wont be over just yet.
But there will be more creative fees/ ancillary charges...
I just paid £79 to fly round trip from London to Spain. If real world experience means anything, the era of low cost airlines isn't over.
Wendover Productions did a much better video on this and the European carriers are profitable with WizzAir posting 365m profits and Ryanair posting 1.9 billion profits.
After covid interest rates raised and inflation occured. This made people stop spending money.
What low cost airlines? Ryanair and EasyJet don’t fly in the US. (Though I wish they did)
Luckilly the international rail network is getting more integrated every year. Rather take trains anyway.
Interesting, why in Europe there is no such problem and you can still fly for €15 the distance which is 200 CAD in Canadian low cost flight?
Not the video length
yes he is a loser
no class
Based.
@@perspicasity genuine question do people joke about 9/11 a lot like this outside of USA?
@@matthew.stevick Occasionally, but probably much more so in English speaking countries than not.
You should mention the lack of reliability as well. In my experience LCAs have more delays and cancellations, and having it happen even once (and then having to but last-minute tickets) will obliterate your savings from multiple flights
TLDR Business AKA TLDR Puns
I don’t see Europe low budget airline have any issue
It shouldn't be as cheap as it is but as long as it is don't mind if I do
Parker Glen
Make it simple, they are not cheap enough for travellers.
If you bring anything more than a handbag, it's not worth it, they will bleed you with fees and "extras".
LCC’s !!
How can an american airline be in losses i mean the only competition for them are railways which are privatised and very expensive as well as slow so they all have a sort of monopoly over long distance travel
Small electric planes are coming in the relatively near future, at least in terms of buying aircraft and ships and the like so even if the low cost airlines struggle now, the nature of short flights is going to change in a number of ways. Not to mention the massive ramp up in high speed rail projects across all the bits of Europe you'd want visit, and also Germany.*
Airships might do something for us but I think it's fair to say that remains to be seen, unlike hydrogen based cars which are a disappointment and will never help us. Hyperloop is still making progress but once the technology is ready, you'd never either new tunnels or highly upgraded ones and it's probably not going to be useful for anything but mid-range trips anyway (not much point if you stop the thing every 20 miles but great to go from London to Paris, or Edinburgh).
Basically, the future is bright but ditch your ICE car and acknowledge that we did land on the moon, do need to colonise Mars so we don't eat an asteroid for breakfast that wipes out all life on Earth including us, the Earth is not flat, and climate change is real and solvable.
*Feel free to insert your European country of choice that you've no interest in visiting and want to poke fun at like Monaco, or Austria, or Italy.
Eldon Road
Prices will always go up when monopolies and oligopolies take over
to be honnest, LCAs are only competitive when you take one flight point to point flight and when you have an easy access to teh airport. but they choose the shittiest airport that are so expensive to reach and they try to screw you with additional fees for everything, you usually end up more expensive than a legacy carrier cheap spot even with a connection. and when there is an issue, the LCA just dumps you without any service or whatsoever, you have paid, they don´t care about afterwards.
LCAs are on my nogo list since a couple of years due to that "flight experience" -> never ever again unless there is no other option. they are a bus and do not ask more than you would ask to a bus.
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ugh so in the case of southwest its just rich people being angry that they aren't richer. figures.
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*Yes low cost air is OVER. Higher fuel costs are the root and fuel will only get more expensive as wells slowly dry up.*
The right acronyms are LCC and ULCC.. carriers.. not airlines
as an early supporter and investor of ai, my answer to the title is yes. 1st class here on out ✈️📈🇺🇸💰
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Hint: No, not at all.
I think costumers just want a little more quality. Thinks got to bad lately. No need for luxury just a little better
Their stock price is coming in for a landing.
Bloody hope not
Johnson Ramp
Won’t accept the Southend airport slander
Anne Port
Is this situation Only happen in the US In My never South East Asia low cost Away is Still Good Business
* in america
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No way you made a video about airplanes that's 9:11 long