Motoz Rallz tyres long-term review︱Cross Training Adventure
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- crosstrainingen... Our Motoz Rallz long term review! Welcome to Cross Training Adventure, we are into all things dual sport and adventure on the east coast of Australia. Is the Motoz Tractionator Rallz the best 70/30 adventure knobby? It's definitely a contender. Five months ago we discussed our first impressions of the Motoz Rallz tyres. There were so many reports of great longevity and off-road traction we were keen to try the Motoz Tractionator Rallz on the DR650. Our first impressions? Welcome to Cross Training Adventure. A lot less road noise with the Motoz Rallz. And a lot more predictable on road surfaces. And it certainly looked as though they were going to last a long time in this Motoz Tractionator review. An excellent dual-sport tyre. Close to the performance of knobbies off-road. There was minimal wear after our first few rides. We have now used the Motoz Tractionator Rallz for eight months in all sorts of terrain for 4000km or 2500 miles. The front Motoz Rallz tread depth is about 30% worn. The good news is there is none of the unusual wear I get with more aggressive front knobies like the D606. If you like dual sport riding in Australia then you might like our adventure riding vids. Longevity? Very good. Check out our reviews of various adventure bikes and dual sport bikes. The rear tread depth has 50% wear at the centre but this should slow down now as the side knobs will take more of the wear. Motoz claim to have a self-sharpening tread pattern. It sounds like clever marketing but I must admit the Motoz Tractionator Rallz knobs are not rounding off to the same degree of full knobbies. However, I did find the front tyre a bit sketchy at different times and prone to washing out with aggressive riding. Road performance is excellent. I was very hesitant to push these tyres on the road but there's no flexing of the side knobs, at least with my mediocre road riding abilities. But they definitely don't howl like the D606 or Pirelli MT21. It's worth experimenting with air pressure with the Motoz Tractionator Rallz, I found 26psi kept the road noise to a comfortable level. Off-road traction? Keen on adventure riding in Australia? Check out our vids. Very good for the most part. In most conditions the Motoz Rallz performed as well as aggressive knobbies, with the exception of mud where they would clog up a bit sooner due to the tread pattern. Price? It's great considering the longevity. In Australia the front is about AUD190 (USD120) the rear tyre for my 18 inch rim is about the same (USD133)... about $30 more than a Dunlop D606 but two to three times the longevity. So is the Motoz Tractionator Rallz the holy grail when it comes to the ideal adventure tyre? It's certainly worth considering if you want excellent traction off-road but still decent on-road performance with an acceptable amount of tyre noise. As always, I'm keen to hear from riders who have used it. Or have you found a combination of tyres that works for you? Let us know in the comments. The Motoz Rallz grip has been fine which is surprising given how long the tyres are lasting. Motoz claim their hybrid compound using silica is the reason. There may be some truth to this. Wet roads? I was more inclined to blame my own riding at first, but I googled around and found a few riders love the rear Motoz but don't like the front tyre for this reason. Why? So subscribe. Or don't subscribe to our Cross Training Adventure riding channel. The main thing is get out and ride while you can with dual sport riding or Adventure riding in Australia, Canada, Vietnam, Romania and beyond! So check out Cross Training Adventure. Out of interest, quite a few of these riders reported that the Motoz Dual Venture front tyre has worked out better with the added advantage of less road noise too. So this might be worth considering as a match for the Rallz rear. We think the whole motorbike scene is getting too commercial. So called dual sport riding reviews are just glossy ads nowdays. Everyone is trying to sell you stuff you don't need, convince you to buy the latest model with anodized coffee cup holders for your trips to the coffee shop. Of course if you are cashed up and into bling, go for it. All we are saying is there's also the budget option for adventure riding. And it won't hold you back.
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We did a review last year but we had further comments to make - based on our own experiences but also those reported by viewers. We actually put further notes in our pinned first comments on review vids but hardly anyone seems to read them. So we figured an updated video would be better!
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Dunlop Trailmax Raid front, Tractionator Adventure rear. You guys don't run 80mph on the highway like we do in the USA. Rallz don't last.
For me, riding a 2015 CRF250L, I love the RallZ! Zero issues with the front cupping or unpredictable traction in the dirt. The rear I got 16000km out of it before swapping to another. That was a 60/40 mix of dirt and tarmac riding. For me, these are the only tires I want to run. I did go back to the Tractionator Enduro IT last change only because the RallZ weren’t available. Happy to be on the RallZ once again 👍🏻
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@@pilotdane1 OBI-WAN!!
The "popular" choice in Alberta Canada seems to be a Dunlop D606R, with a Pirelli MT21 front, or a Kenda Trak master 2 front. I have used a few sets of the D606R\K760F. On my Honda CRF450L, I need to air down, especially in the rear, off road, for traction, to 14 psi or less. Also use Michelin UHD tubes.
Yes sir second summer on Rallz and Dual on the front...no complaints.
I've found the motoz tractionator enduro S/T front tires to be excellent both on and off road. I have them as the fronts on all my bikes now. They are more aggressive than the dualventure fronts, but still hold good traction on roads. Last about 5000km on my ktm 450/525.
I've read the motoz tractionator adventure rear is comparable to the rallz in the dirt but lasts alot longer due to harder compound used. The distance between the lugs on the adventure is comparable to the d606, the rallz is definitely more aggressive looking. I've just installed the rallz rear on the 500exc and the motoz adventure rear on the 450exc. Will report back on performance on dirt and wear in a few months.
Did you try them both? Can we get an update and comparison?
@kristianperic427 just a quick update on both. Done less than 200km on both tires but just some initial observations. They are both perfectly fine in the dirt. The adventure is better than the rallz at high speed on sealed roads. I did some slightly rutted out clay based fire trails on the motoz adventure rear and it slipped a couple of times but nothing major. The rallz is defo more aggressive and so far it's hooked up well on the wet stuff. Barely any wear on either tire. Both bikes have the motoz tractionator S/T 90/100 fronts on them as well.
For the comment on bead sealing: when I've done motorcycle tubeless conversions, I've noticed that bicycle tubeless sealant is far superior at sealing the bead when compared to slime or similar.
I had the Motoz Tractiionater Adventure on the rear and the Dual Venture on the front of my XR650R. They were stupendous on road (quiet, confident and awesome traction) and I had no complaints in sand, mud and gravel roads where I live in Michigan, USA. But this was my first dual-sport bike, so I have nothing to compare to. I just sold the Honda for a KTM 500 EXC. It has Goldentyres on it now (with Tubliss), but I have a Rallz rear and another Dual Venture in the shopping cart with tubes to replace what's on the bike now. I'm already a fan of Motoz.
Interesting change! What do you make of it so far? Certainly less weight with the KTM....
I've used the Rallz with a dual venture front last summer for a 10,000 mile trip, refreshing 3 sets total on my KTM 890R. I've recently went to a Rallz front as well for a dual sport event in the mountains and loved it off road, and even some twisty fast tarmac. I run heavy duty 3mm tubes in the front with static balancing and No-mar wheel weights. I still run the stock tubeless in the rear as I've never had a problem. Not once have I gotten a flat in rocky sections of Colorado or the California desert. It works for me a treat. I always carry a 21" tube for the front and ready6 to squeeze it in the rear if I break a bead or dent a rim...
I love these tire more aggressive off-road even with long stretches of tarmac in between. But I'm more of a dirt road tourer than most...
They're on the list of shoes for later, for me.
I've still got about 40-50% of the stock "Deathwings" on the rear.
I just purchased a Heidenau k60 17 and am eager to throw it on.
I also went ahead a got a full set of Shinko 244's for the the next rubber exchange.
My riding is 80-20/70-30 dirt, mostly dirt roads of sand and clay.
(Southern Georgia)
The future 244's are for later plans on both of the East Coast BDR's.
Anything out West looks like the RALLZ would be best.
Love your vids. Honest info shot straight forward is always great.
Keep em coming.
Cheers
I love the Rallz rear tire, solid performer on and off-road. The Rallz front, that is a different story, you could never trust it to hold off-road. It would just step out when you least expected it.
I've used the following dual-sport tyres:
Michelin T63 (discontinued)
Dunlop K850A
Bridgestone TW302
IRC GP22
Maxxis M6034
Dunlop D605
The Michelin's were lethal on wet tarmac (probably due to being a much more dirt oriented tyre).
The Dunlop K850A had a softer compound than all the other tyres, and therefore offered more grip on, and off-road, but wore out sooner.
The rest pretty much felt the same as each other.
I now just use Maxxis M6034 because they are the cheapest here in the UK.
As always; 90% rider/10% tyres (or "tires" if your American).
Great video Barry! In have the RallZ on the rear of my DR and it does really well both on and off road. I have the Desert H/T fatty on the front and it tracks extremely well off road and is wearing great on the road. Haven’t tried the Dual Venture up front yet but friends have reported good results.
Cheers from the US!
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same here on my 2022 DR. If it’s good enough for “Skids n Stuff” , it’s good enough for me. After 5k miles on MA & NE BDR, and few trails in Canada last October, and local riding, I am VERY pleased with these tires. Noise is TERRIBLE on the road and a Little sketchy in heavy rain on black top but I don’t care if tires keep my bike (and me) upright off road 😬. I Never dropped the bike during my trip (it’s an accomplishment for the newbie I am) !!! Front is cupped badly now and not much knobby left on the rear but they still behave really well (and are less noisy). Maybe I can get another 1k miles out of them ? My trip was probably 30% off road/ 70% on road. Rear tire does show some cracks at the base of some knobs though. Nothing serious (I think 🤔). I’m running tubes front and rear. Ohhh , and I never checked tire pressure during my whole 4K trip on the BDRs and Canada. I started at 25psi and finished at 14 😬 cheers from the US too ✌️
@@SuperwheelieOverland This is the most accurate comment I have ever seen regarding the MOTOZ tire combo K mentioned. Thank you Sir!
@@pilotdane1 Mighty OBI- WAN!
Running the RallZ rear and Dual Venture front on a CRF250L Rally. Perfect 👌 Previous RallZ front had heavy scalloping, but this was also on the first version of that tyre. The newer version has been changed, so it might be better.
Motoz Rallz are ok. The fronts cup like mad. They are also wobbly at speed and under hard acceleration. They also wear faster than the rears if you see much road riding on them. 4000 miles seems to be the absolute max on a Tenere 700. I switched to golden Tyre gt723s and I am much more impressed on the dirt and feel like Ive lost nothing at all on the street. The front is actually more stable. Can’t report on mileage yet, but I doubt at this point that I’ll be returning to motoz unless doing a lot of road riding, in which case I’d run an adventure rear and dual venture front. 👍 Thanks for all the great videos!
When I had my 2000 klr dirt modded I switched from the shinko 805 to the motoz tractionator and man was it a beast in the technical stuff. I now have my dr650 and am running tusk d sport tires they are wonderful especially in the dirt only complaint is they are very loud on pavement straight up and down hahs
Running MOTOZ Tractionator on a ktm690 enduro r. Just rolled over 5000 miles. Rear is about 75% warn, front about 35-40% warn. Front, minimal uneven wear. Rear good even wear.
Running tubliss system.
Will run these tires rest of this season and replace the rear next year.
Great all around tire.
Tractionator Rallz? 140/80-18 Tube Type tire with Tubliss?
I love MotoZ tires. I have gone through a few over the years on my DRZ400. personal fav for the rear is the MotoZ Desert H/T. I bought 5 of them a few years ago cause I heard they were t be cancelled. which they have been now at least here in the USA. But have 3 left. Best rear tire I ever tried. Plows throw snow like a timbersled. what I have on the front is no longer made or imported as well, MotoZ Adventure tire. I guess for most it creates bad high speed wobbles. you just have to dial in the air pressure to eliminate that issue. can cruise at 80 mph on my DRZ400 with zero wobbles holding on with 2 fingures and go-cruise holding the speed for me. 54,000 miles of zero issues and loving my MotoZ tires.
i'm running rallz on my 790advr, and so far it's the best dualsport tyre for my kind of riding I've tried. including the front. basically I want a tyre that's as aggressive offroad as possible, while still allowing me to keep up in the twisties with street bikes.
Just mounted rear Rallz and front mt21 on my 701 for a 1000 mile BDR trip which I'm leaving for tomorrow.
Looking forward to it
I've got the Desert H/T front paired with the RallZ on the rear on my 690 and have been happy with them
I've run a lot of miles on front & rear RallZ. The front is meh and on my 790/890 cups pretty bad unless you're running "road" pressures (~35psi). Other options: D606, GT723, DesertHT (about to try this out). Personally I won't run the RallZ front but the rear has been the best all around tyre for me on the adv bikes. Next I'll probably try the Mitas Enduro Trail XT+.
Motoz adventure fronts on my 1290 both scalloped badly and were taken off well before they were worn out due to noise and handling. Love the rears, I run a pirelli scorpion on the front now, and no issues so far.
i love the rear rallz on my ktm 500,it does everything i need it to do when adventure riding in the south island of new zealand, like a lot of people here i put a more aggressive front tyre on (i/t or s/t) great tyre and great vid!
Great review mate , i use the Motoz RallZ on my Tenere T7 on the rear and Pirelli scorpion rallly race on the front a perfect combination , thanks for the review
Love the Rallz, they're a good all-rounder.
I have rallz at the rear and anakee wild on the front; it is working perfectly
I've been enjoying the Mountain Hybrid's in dry weather. They love 14-18 psi on my 690.
Running the GPS on the rear and DV on the front of my T7,extremely happy with both 4000km so far and the the front is still very quiet.Unfortunately it’s a little difficult getting Motoz tires in Canada therefore you’ve got to plan ahead and be patient.Thanks for the review.
Great to hear!
Motoz DV on front and Adventure on back for my 1200GS. They provide the sweet spot of off-road, on-road, traction and longevity for me. 🏕️😁👌🇨🇦👋
I had scalloping on the DV, but it was very slight over a long period of mileage (like 4k miles).
RallZ front and rear work very well on 890R where focus is primarily on dirt including tough single track; I also want safe and predictable on road - RallZ delivers.
Biggest benefit is that I don’t have to change tyre pressures, I leave them at 35 psi everywhere.
Front eventually scalloped but it didn’t affect performance in any way so, meh.
I get 2-3 rears to a front.
1:26 Not sure how old this vid is, as you do re-upload quite often. Here in the USA the only front tire available is the DV to match the Rallz rear, they stopped importing the other. I had assumed they quit making it but from this I take both are still available in ozzy land.
I used the GPS on the back and the rallz on the front of my DR650. GPS is a little skitty on wet bitumen and so was the rallz which dip in quicker, OK in the dirt (not mud).
Hey buddy, I love your channel, first comment after watching lots of your videos. In my KLR650 I've been using Shinko SR244 and this one now got me curious. Not sure if it's available here in New Zealand though. A month ago I bought a T7 and came with a Hidenau K76, I plan to keep that tyre until I manage to get more used to the bike. Thanks these kind of videos.
What sort of mileage do you get with the 244 on the KLR?
Stan's No-tubes sealant is an excellent sealant
on my klr2 I ran the front rallz too long (4000m). Wasn't a good roady for me. Have a dv now, i like it once I got used to it offroad, & a better roady too.. my rear, no complaints, & it did almost 8000m (to the wear-bars).. good stuff
Rallz awesome rear
The front I use a tkc80 as they are predictable traction
GT216AA fatty is my "go to" front. And the Dsport for the rear. DR650
Mountain bike tubeless tyre latex sealant works a lot better than green slime.
It doesn't leak
What size are you running? The 120/90-18 has a more aggressive tread than the 140/80-18 and so performance and longevity would differ a bit. I just put the 120/90-18 on the rear and the Xtreme Hybrid on the front of my 500EXC-F and after the 1st ride I was very happy with it. Predictable and feels like a good match. But I guess almost anything is better than the TKC80's. My priority is aggressive off-road riding but I would like a rear tire to last 1 riding season. On road performance was not amazing, but acceptable for my needs. Time will tell if the balance of performance and longevity is what I'm looking for, but so far so good. Not much info out there about these sizes so your videos are a good start. Thanks
Bought Tractionator Adventure last year and wanted RallZ this year but here in Poland prices skyrockted. I am looking for RallZ 150/70 B18 and it is US $250 on american ebay. So for this year I have Mitas Enduro Trail XT+ instead.
They are "me-to" copies of Dunlop D606, especially the front, and it doesn't last squad shit once you hit concrete slab.
Yeah they're not bad on dirt, but IMO front got nothing on Tractionator Adventure, but at least Adventure would last 10-12k miles and many peeps wore out RalZ front in 1500mi, check advrider
I run the rear, don't like the front as much (CRF 300L)
Hi Barry, I have heard you speak about the front tyre not sealing with Tubliss and how slime not working 100% and have thought that mountain bike tubeless sealer may be a better option as it is a bit different to slime as it is used to stick the tyre to the bead.
What do I think? Well I have no opinion. I don’t have a road bike so I’m just here to give you a 👍🏻
Currently have the front Tractionator DV on. Did the first ride fri/sat and at speed not a lot of confidence in it. Thought, maybe pressure (20psi) or needs time to bed in? Road riding is ok-ish.
Curious how they stack up against the old D606s.
I liked mine on the DR, but would love to get a bit more longevity out of the rear. I'm 50/50 dirt and road, but care more about dirt performance.
D606 is a better tire for half the price.
I have a T7 with a duel venture front which is great, a rallz rear which is good in all conditions except for wet hard pack clay it’s horrible definitely got noisier as it’s worn
Now compare it to the new tusk 2 tracks...im afraid motoz will need to lower their prices considerably!!
Motoz Rallz rear👍front kenda big block. But I struggle to make them last 😮
Not sure why🙄
I would be interested in your thoughts of the Dualventure Front/Rallz rear as compared to the MT 21 Front/Rear for a 20-30% on road, 70-80% off road tire? Which ones do you feel would be a better combination?
Unfortunately I haven't tried the Dualventure front yet. But I love the Rallz rear, as per this vid. The MT21 will definitely be getting more traction off-road as it's a bit more aggressive, similar to the Dunlop D606. It will be cheaper too of course, but I suspect you will get three times the longevity with the Motoz.
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An 18inch TL (Tube Less) Rallz rear for $190! in Australia! I want the name of your tyre dealer. I assume there is an error in your numbers on screen.
OR are you are running TT (tube type tyres) with the Tubliss system, and putting up with the (alleged) slow air leakage through the carcass of a TT tyre?? Running the TRXR 120/90-18 ??
I had problems with my Tube Less DV leaking slowly around the bead- only way I could stop it was to apply Bead Sealer. It wasn't the rim/s because this was with different rims.
As per Motoz website. This was for a DR650, they get a lot more expensive for wider rims of course...
What opinion do you have of the Bridgestone BATTLAX ADVENTURECROSS AX41 tire?
Haven't used one yet 😢
You guys ever ride tubliss on road?
All the time with my DR650
How do the Dual Venture rears compare?
I don't think there is a rear option
I’m a rare user that’s not a fan.
Way too expensive. My rear was impossible to balance. Sidewalls so stiff you want to tow a tire changing machine behind you on the trail.
Are you on the factory front rim?
on my klr(2) I sealed the spokes & run a tubeless dv up front.. if I keep the psi above 22ish it's been fine, but I can't air down much being tubeless
I bought a set of custom wheels so I could have an 18 inch rear.
I don’t touch motoz tyres anymore
Why not?
@@hjvisagie the compounds they use are substandard compared to other name brands, they are tuff and built to last though
The claim of 7000 km is flawed. You didn't say or show what was the state of the tire when you removed it from the bike. What was the thred depth?