I really enjoy how you focused on the mechanics side of the recording and the drums rather than the mixing side. It shows that it has more to do with the instrument than the way it's mixed. Something I'm trying to convey to my band mates. In music, you can't polish a turd.
Great Vid...Sir you seem to be one of the only Pro's on RUclips , who are actually teaching us relevant information on production techniques in an organized and concise manner, without any name dropping or BS. Thank you for sharing...
You don't have to listen to too many until it shows up ... "I did this for so-and-so on their record" ... but some people I guess don't pay much attention? It's actually the one thing that made me interested in the first place. I've produced one record ... wish I could do it as "work" ;-)
You can also modulate the pitch of a rimshot depending on where you hit (and how thick that portion of the stick is)...doesn’t always have to be dead center. One of my prouder moments in my old band was I switched from a lower (center) rimshot to a higher one for different sections of the song based on the harmony of different sections. I don’t know if anyone ever noticed but it sounded a lot better to me.
Great content on this channel! Drummers with limited budgets: placing a full sheet of regular printer paper on your snare head will also work if you literally have nothing to dampen your snare. Just lay it right in the middle. Add another sheet or 2 if you want more dampening. Again, this is the cheapest, last resort method, but it works.
Don't be afraid to throw it intentionally out of tune, too! That can also work depending on the song. It seems to makes it pop through more as opposed to blending in with the rest of the mix, but again it really depends on t he song. Tends to work better with a short decay too I've noticed.
Very helpful thank you! I'm a songwriter adding snare hits into my acoustic songs and I had a friend (drummer) come tune my snare for me, but I wasn't sure if the higher frequency "ring" on my snare that I can now hear meant i had stray frequencies, but now i realize that ring is supposed to be there. Some dampening should do the trick for me.
Love it :) - Really amazing how the emphasis is on the drum tuning, sound of the drum and then mic placement rather than what microphone to use, compared to 95% percent of what is found on the net!!
Rick, again it amazes me your willingness to share real-world knowledge of the record production process. In the recording realm, drums have been a fascination for me since . . . well, a very long time. I know some drummers to actually lay a bead of calk or silicone on the drum head, just off the rim - to varying lengths, as required. I once, for the lack of any gate, and to achieve an effect, used canvass tympani covers on rack toms. It's one of those "don't look at the drums!" situations. Thank you for making these tutorials. I know if I ever allow myself to become unteachable - that I already know enough, I will quickly be of no value to anything or anyone whose life depends on making music.
Hi Rick, I'm really glad I've found your channel. Ive tried many methods for drum tuning and have never really found a great method.......until now!!! I had a horrible gig last week all because I couldn't find a good sound for my pearl Joey Jordison signature snare. I've watched your video, tuned it up and it sounds better than it ever has. I have a gig tonight and can't wait. You've also solved the mystery of why my bottom lug always comes undone! (I'm a rim shotter and I'm not afraid to admit it) keep up the good work!
Hitting consistent rim shots is all in the positioning of the snare. The snare should be set so that a well-practiced stroke (like a full Moeller Stroke) always lands as a rim shot. This takes the guess work out of the rim shot allowing the drummer to effortlessly play rim shots (I've been drumming for 18 years). Unfortunately, it's too late to develop this once the drummer is in the studio, but it might be something worth mentioning if the drummer is hitting inconsistent rim shots and doesn't have a fragile ego (yeah, right).
If rim shots are inconsistent in the studio, better to try to convince the drummer to avoid rimshot at all in my opinion. Very delicate matter, highlighting drummer deficiencies during recording can be a session destroyer thing...
Thanks for sharing so much wisdom, Rick. I especially liked how you went through the tracks and commented on each snare sound. Interesting point about snare length and song tempo.
For Mia is one of my favorite tracks that you did. It has an amazing harmony before the chorus. I would like to see you dissect this song! Thanks for everything, Rick!
Lots of great bands in the examples that never released the albums. So sad!! Same thing happened to my band in 2017. Thanks for the great content Rick!
I knew all of this with the exception of tightening and loosening the snares for different tempos. I always tighten them up and add reverb for slow songs instead. I’m going to have to try that. This is why I watch these things. You can always learn more.
When Rick Beato just casually mentions all the artists he recorded 5:59, and every drum kit sounds absolutely amazing for the song, you realize just how much of a genius he is!
I like how your channel went from music production to more of a, shall I say, music connoisseur channel. That being said, I have purchased your Beato Book, and have learned a lot from your channel, in regards to both aspects. I remember when you reached your first 1M subs, and I look forward to seeing you reach 4M. Cheers!
I dig all your videos, but the one’s you’ve done on drums (how to get a phat bass sound, this one) have been really interesting as a drummer. Love you work!
You named off a small handful of my friends down here in Charleston that’s really cool man I didn’t know that you were involved with their projects! Thank you for everything you do Mr. Rick!
your musical depth and breath continues to impress! was enough just playing the larry carlton solo off the steely dan video, but you are all over the map kinda good!
hey rick...guys in my drum forum are really getting turned onto your drum production studio mic'ing stuff...i think you tapping this internet group will really send your numbers high...and thats a good thing...after watching your video on music schools and how HONEST you were...i was sold! plus your fathering is outstanding...that is most impressive your family...people want success like this...we need cats over 50 to the lead the way...you can have success and a strong family as well...inspiring!
Hi Rick, we're in my place now! Drums and snare work; I tune the bottoms up (tight) and the tops lower. I trained myself to do both and you are so right, rim shots are a task to hit. A good drummer should be able to do both, i don't class myself that high but i can do both and stick control is so important. So to learn I took the classical/jazz route as it was more than demanding to my ears than most rock stuff and pop i thought had now just become the realm of machines and samples. Hal Blaine explained that the snare use should be crisp and definable from anything else and give your own sound individuality. I use Ambassador X and Remo coated. I took the original snare off of a 14" X 6 1/2 " snare (brass) and put on a 40 strand snare and had it looser than before. (this is to emulate Bonzo's 402 Super Ludvig ). Does that make sense to you? But I love it!
Watching for he second time Rick great sounds! A lot of tips you give that I already do myself in my studio, the Wow effect on guitars, the attention to detail regarding snare de tuning and tuning it to the song etc nice to know I'm doing some things right! The track by Essex has a little bit of Kings X ''Fool You'' vibe to it.
Informative vid. Another advantage to recording rim shots is the pre amp gain doesn't have to be very high ( relatively speaking) as rimshots are louder than center snare hits. By having the gain lower the hi hat bleed into the snare mic is reduced... always a bonus. Cheers.
You can go to a dollar store and but holiday window stickies. You can cut the 4 leaf clover, hearts, or whatevs, into rectangle, if ya want. Works just like a Moon gel, for a fraction of the cost. A pack costs a buck, obviously!
I would add two things to this great lesson: 99.8% of the time, you want to flip polarity on the bottom snare mic. Also, the SDC mic should be cardioid and have a -10 pad. You don't want to use omni SDC's for snare.
Great Video Rick. I love that you covered a lot about the snare drum itself and the value of rim shots vs center hits. That is solid gold advice. I've found the height and angle of the snare to the drummer makes rimshots arrive much more naturally. I've been experimenting with a Yamaha 13x4 maple snare with a frosted pinstripe head. I like the rim shot sound it makes.
You mention Josh Freese. I recorded at a studio where he had also recorded. A few of his used sticks were left behind. They were clean at the grip and tip but totally chewed up in the middle where, the producer told me, Freese smacked a consistent rimshot on each hit.
you can think of rimshotting as a way of EQing from the throne. Pick what you need based on what the snare mix needs, rimshot is much louder than center hit btw. shell punch: 250hz - rim + center top head tang: 500-700hz- rim +center rim crack: 1-2khz- rimshot only snare wires: 5-10k - rim + center
why the album of aerospace does never came out; That was very good track. Is something that i can do to listen or buy the whole song that you played as an example;
Thank you for making videos... Your channel is one of my favorites right now! By the way, waiting for the day you will make a CLA Drums Mixing Technique!
Long time listener, Rick - just came across this vid. Interesting on the rimshots. I am a long-time drummer (since the 80s), and I've always wrestled in my head whether to rimshot or center hit in the studio. When recording, I've tended to center hit using a very bright snare (e.g. a Tama SLP Vintage Steel, or something like that), and have always wondered if I should be using rimshots. I do tend to hit the snare hard when I record, and in the many records I've played on, have never had the engineer or producer ask for rimshots - maybe because of how hard I tend to hit the snare. That said, Matt Johnson's tone is cool (although I maybe don't like it quite so "rimmy". I think next record I'm going to give rimshots a try on a few takes and see how I like the tone. Anyway, as always, appreciate your thoughtful videos and depth of knowledge. You've given me something to think about.
Im a self taught drummer and only just learned what a rimshot actually is. I didn't know people hit the rim and the center at the same time. I'm watching dave grohl play drums now and it's quite noticeable now. I always thought a rimshot was hitting outside of the center near the edge of the rim
Thanks for all your videos!!! I have learned a lot of things because of you! :D But I was wondering if you coul do a video showing a snare drum with an emperor hazy (Remo) or a 500 hazy (evans) snare side heads :) Thanks one more time, you're awesome!
Great stuff man! I have watched so many of your videos that I am actually starting to sound like you when I teach! (I have about 50-60 private students, I teach drums bass guitar piano trombone trumpet voice music production theory) My only funny comment here is that if I quote you directly, it works out that John Bonham grew up listening to Led Zeppelin! LOL Ps Totally loving the “what makes this song great” series. So insightful
Very-very nice material, just would like to listen to the examples in full quality (stereo studio recording, not roomy cam mic sound from monitors). I understand it's time-consuming (I do it myself), but it would be so much better! Looking forward to new series!
Great work...I am amazed of the productions and the music that you produced...wow, very impressive, massive, open sound...that is something that I would love to achieve someday...Regards!
+Konstantin Raidovski (Raido) Thanks Konstantinos! You know, I got fed up one day when I first started producing because I couldn't get a great snare sound with the drummers Snare I was using. That's when I went out and purchased my first Snare. I own a bunch of them now that sound great on any recording. That's really the key. It's all about the sound source. Thanks so much! Rick
Wow thanks for sharing that...this is something that I am going through...I have been trying every miking technique that you mentioned plus a few others that I know for years, but I was always relying on the drummers kits, and the sound was not the way that I wanted it in my head...until I changed the kick and the snare during a session with an old Slingerland kick and snare from the seventies that were forgotten in a studio basement. That was a turning point...every time I try this kit against other...it just knock downs any dw, yamaha or whatever modern thing comes for recording. The same thing was with an old vintage Earth bass amplifier...there are things that are made to sit in the mix...:)
For home studio work it can be more efficient as far as quality/expense ratio to work with just three mics. It’s great to have the option of using ten mics on a kit but with a bit of experimentation you can get very usable recordings with two overheads and one kick mic facing the reso bass head. A condenser along with the kick mic in front as well can really ad more detail if you can manage a fourth mic. Great channel tho! Just found it.
Another great vid Rick! Thanks so much for sharing...Especially those amazing recordings you produced of some great sounding bands! Continued success:)
One thing that wasn’t discussed that I have seen done before four extreme metal records is having super loose snare wires which gives the snare sound a shorter more drum heavy sound. I suppose it has to do with the mic placement not picking up the wires when they are so loose. Take for example cattle decapitation. You barely even hear the snare wires in some of their songs
Saw Bad Company years ago. The drummer, Simon Kirke was playing one of these. That sound rang out and cut through the rest of the band unlike anything I've ever heard.
Appreciate you sharing all this wonderous knowledge with us For years been throwing a condenser mic under the snare then putting it back in phase on the pre section. Post will often gate the bottom and only send to vrbs etc from s bottom mic. Sounded like you were either not using a snare bottom or it was a dynamic mic on bottom? Any insights as to how you are dealing with the snare bottom? Thanks, Greg.
Major label records are rarely removed from YT nowadays (at least the number of them I dealt with). They just get monetized by the rights' owners and you can further have'em in your videos. So give it a try, it would be very interesting to hear you big works!
+MrPbICb I put links to a few albums in the description. I have had 2 videos pulled off RUclips for using the recordings in my videos. They were both on wea which is what Needtobreathe and Shinedown are on.
How did he get the Eb pitch? I honestly don't hear the Eb. I hear dominating frequenices such as F, D and a little bit of C at the tail of the sound. Is it just me? I'm not questioning ears at all but I just don't hear an Eb.
Could you make a clip of how they get that snare sound on a song by Amy Winehouse called "Moody's mood for love", it has like a ska or dub sound which is so distinctive and reminiscent of that genre.
I really enjoy how you focused on the mechanics side of the recording and the drums rather than the mixing side. It shows that it has more to do with the instrument than the way it's mixed. Something I'm trying to convey to my band mates. In music, you can't polish a turd.
Great Vid...Sir you seem to be one of the only Pro's on RUclips , who are actually teaching us relevant information on production techniques in an organized and concise manner, without any name dropping or BS. Thank you for sharing...
+James Saldana thanks James!
The most badass name he could drop would be his own sooooo....there’s really no point in that
So I dig out my Shinedown CD, look at the back, " *produced by Rick Beato", cool! Thanks for the great vids!!
Cool! Most people think I play the piano and teach theory. Haha! I always have people writing to me saying I had no idea you were a producer :)
Rick Beato to be honest your set up and equipment should speak for itself
You don't have to listen to too many until it shows up ... "I did this for so-and-so on their record" ... but some people I guess don't pay much attention? It's actually the one thing that made me interested in the first place. I've produced one record ... wish I could do it as "work" ;-)
LOL! Rigby Otto is the closed caption translation of your name. Gold.
Seb Warren Music hilarious
You can also modulate the pitch of a rimshot depending on where you hit (and how thick that portion of the stick is)...doesn’t always have to be dead center. One of my prouder moments in my old band was I switched from a lower (center) rimshot to a higher one for different sections of the song based on the harmony of different sections. I don’t know if anyone ever noticed but it sounded a lot better to me.
Great content on this channel! Drummers with limited budgets: placing a full sheet of regular printer paper on your snare head will also work if you literally have nothing to dampen your snare. Just lay it right in the middle. Add another sheet or 2 if you want more dampening. Again, this is the cheapest, last resort method, but it works.
I wish this was out many moons ago. Over 30 years to figure out a lot of this. But not some of the finer details. Great knowledge and communication.
Oh man, you produced Needtobreathe's The Reckoning. I Love this record. Amazing Job, Congrats!
I really like your videos, your personnality and authenticity. You will help a lot of musicians in the process. Thank you!
The Beatle’s “HELP!” seems to be the most obvious example of a Beatle’s Snare tuned to the tonic “A”. Very cool.
Bill Bruford was the king of the rimshot. This was very informative, thanks!
That was probably the most comprehensive snare overview! Learned a lot, thx!
"It's got a lot of Bonham end" 11:11
Bottom
Thanks, great info, especially tuning the snare wire to the tempo of the song.
Don't be afraid to throw it intentionally out of tune, too! That can also work depending on the song. It seems to makes it pop through more as opposed to blending in with the rest of the mix, but again it really depends on t he song. Tends to work better with a short decay too I've noticed.
Great video, as a retired live engineer I appreciate your insight. I learned stuff and felt vindicated at the same time.
Very helpful thank you! I'm a songwriter adding snare hits into my acoustic songs and I had a friend (drummer) come tune my snare for me, but I wasn't sure if the higher frequency "ring" on my snare that I can now hear meant i had stray frequencies, but now i realize that ring is supposed to be there. Some dampening should do the trick for me.
Man, I love Shinedown. It's great to hear you produced them. Love from Poland!
All I ever play and have ever played is rim shots! I don't miss! Been playing for 50 years! 👍 Great video!!
Love it :) - Really amazing how the emphasis is on the drum tuning, sound of the drum and then mic placement rather than what microphone to use, compared to 95% percent of what is found on the net!!
First step to get a good sound for recording
1. Step: buy a Ludwig Supraphonic.
You're done.
Step 2, (optional) make samples from led zep moby dick.
def. a "must bring to session" kind of snare! this video applies to any snare, FYI
How to get a good sound for your kit... Take out a loan or sell your first child...
Acrolite is a fatter sound
LM400 or LM402 is also decent choice.
He is right about the throw-off, I upgraded the p-85 to the p-86 millennium .
Rick, again it amazes me your willingness to share real-world knowledge of the record production process. In the recording realm, drums have been a fascination for me since . . . well, a very long time. I know some drummers to actually lay a bead of calk or silicone on the drum head, just off the rim - to varying lengths, as required. I once, for the lack of any gate, and to achieve an effect, used canvass tympani covers on rack toms. It's one of those "don't look at the drums!" situations. Thank you for making these tutorials. I know if I ever allow myself to become unteachable - that I already know enough, I will quickly be of no value to anything or anyone whose life depends on making music.
Man, I love those snare drum sounds. Your right about the Ludwig BB snare, been around since the seventies.
Bro this is actually really helpful and informative thanks man
Hi Rick, I'm really glad I've found your channel. Ive tried many methods for drum tuning and have never really found a great method.......until now!!! I had a horrible gig last week all because I couldn't find a good sound for my pearl Joey Jordison signature snare. I've watched your video, tuned it up and it sounds better than it ever has. I have a gig tonight and can't wait. You've also solved the mystery of why my bottom lug always comes undone! (I'm a rim shotter and I'm not afraid to admit it) keep up the good work!
Hitting consistent rim shots is all in the positioning of the snare. The snare should be set so that a well-practiced stroke (like a full Moeller Stroke) always lands as a rim shot. This takes the guess work out of the rim shot allowing the drummer to effortlessly play rim shots (I've been drumming for 18 years). Unfortunately, it's too late to develop this once the drummer is in the studio, but it might be something worth mentioning if the drummer is hitting inconsistent rim shots and doesn't have a fragile ego (yeah, right).
If rim shots are inconsistent in the studio, better to try to convince the drummer to avoid rimshot at all in my opinion. Very delicate matter, highlighting drummer deficiencies during recording can be a session destroyer thing...
Thanks for sharing so much wisdom, Rick. I especially liked how you went through the tracks and commented on each snare sound. Interesting point about snare length and song tempo.
Thanks for turning me on to Crowfield. I like his voice. It reminds me of Burton Cummings and he is my favorite vocalist.
I know it’s thee years old, but it’s still very relevant and useful. Thanks Rick.
Dude. I had a critical comment..but held back cause i luv ur channel. Radio ready is never good. Seriously.
Luv the channel.
Jump, Little Children...
Man, you just went up even further past the 100% esteem I already had for ya.
Right? They are one of my favorite bands. I heard that and was like wow!
Lars Ulrich has left the chat.
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🤣🤣🤣😍🤣💀💀💀💀💀
/werenotworthy 🤜🤛
For Mia is one of my favorite tracks that you did. It has an amazing harmony before the chorus. I would like to see you dissect this song! Thanks for everything, Rick!
Lots of great bands in the examples that never released the albums. So sad!! Same thing happened to my band in 2017. Thanks for the great content Rick!
I knew all of this with the exception of tightening and loosening the snares for different tempos. I always tighten them up and add reverb for slow songs instead. I’m going to have to try that. This is why I watch these things. You can always learn more.
7:10 very nice. My preferred sound. I'm a rimshotter
When Rick Beato just casually mentions all the artists he recorded 5:59, and every drum kit sounds absolutely amazing for the song, you realize just how much of a genius he is!
I have the exact same kit in that finish and the exact same snare. Love the combination
I like how your channel went from music production to more of a, shall I say, music connoisseur channel. That being said, I have purchased your Beato Book, and have learned a lot from your channel, in regards to both aspects. I remember when you reached your first 1M subs, and I look forward to seeing you reach 4M. Cheers!
I dig all your videos, but the one’s you’ve done on drums (how to get a phat bass sound, this one) have been really interesting as a drummer. Love you work!
You named off a small handful of my friends down here in Charleston that’s really cool man I didn’t know that you were involved with their projects! Thank you for everything you do Mr. Rick!
Your channel is incredible. Thanks for all the wisdom and knowledge you share.
ah hah! bottom miking too. I had tried both separately but not together. Thank you!
felt furniture feet can achieve the same effect as Moon Gel and costs pennies comparatively. Great video!
your musical depth and breath continues to impress! was enough just playing the larry carlton solo off the steely dan video, but you are all over the map kinda good!
Thanks!!
hey rick...guys in my drum forum are really getting turned onto your drum production studio mic'ing stuff...i think you tapping this internet group will really send your numbers high...and thats a good thing...after watching your video on music schools and how HONEST you were...i was sold! plus your fathering is outstanding...that is most impressive your family...people want success like this...we need cats over 50 to the lead the way...you can have success and a strong family as well...inspiring!
Love the snare on Shinedown track. Also I saw Junp little Children here in charlotte in 97. They were very popular here,. SLAM..great dums! wow.
Hi Rick, we're in my place now! Drums and snare work; I tune the bottoms up (tight) and the tops lower. I trained myself to do both and you are so right, rim shots are a task to hit. A good drummer should be able to do both, i don't class myself that high but i can do both and stick control is so important. So to learn I took the classical/jazz route as it was more than demanding to my ears than most rock stuff and pop i thought had now just become the realm of machines and samples. Hal Blaine explained that the snare use should be crisp and definable from anything else and give your own sound individuality. I use Ambassador X and Remo coated. I took the original snare off of a 14" X 6 1/2 " snare (brass) and put on a 40 strand snare and had it looser than before. (this is to emulate Bonzo's 402 Super Ludvig ). Does that make sense to you? But I love it!
Agreed. More (Custom) wires and looser really gets me closer t the sound I want. Drummer hear who really digs this channel
There’s two kind of drummers, those who hit the drums and those who play the drums. ;)
This channel is one of a few music class I take. Thank you for making so much good content
Thanks for all of these helpful tutorials, Rick. They are so helpful.
Keep going, Rick! All of your videos are so dope.
Amazing Mr. B. You are a great teacher. ✌️
Watching for he second time Rick great sounds! A lot of tips you give that I already do myself in my studio, the Wow effect on guitars, the attention to detail regarding snare de tuning and tuning it to the song etc nice to know I'm doing some things right! The track by Essex has a little bit of Kings X ''Fool You'' vibe to it.
Black Beauty's are brass. I like the 6 1/2" Superphonic Chrome Steel snare sound
Informative vid. Another advantage to recording rim shots is the pre amp gain doesn't have to be very high ( relatively speaking) as rimshots are louder than center snare hits. By having the gain lower the hi hat bleed into the snare mic is reduced... always a bonus. Cheers.
Thank you! Great video....really helping with my schooling at Berklee.
Kinda tells you how effective Berklee is! :) I went to Berklee....then went back to playing /recording for a living!
You can go to a dollar store and but holiday window stickies. You can cut the 4 leaf clover, hearts, or whatevs, into rectangle, if ya want. Works just like a Moon gel, for a fraction of the cost. A pack costs a buck, obviously!
If your Lars a large pasta pot is ideal. Ps im not a drummer but I could amuse myself for hours with just that snare sounds so good.
I would add two things to this great lesson: 99.8% of the time, you want to flip polarity on the bottom snare mic. Also, the SDC mic should be cardioid and have a -10 pad. You don't want to use omni SDC's for snare.
Great Video Rick. I love that you covered a lot about the snare drum itself and the value of rim shots vs center hits. That is solid gold advice. I've found the height and angle of the snare to the drummer makes rimshots arrive much more naturally. I've been experimenting with a Yamaha 13x4 maple snare with a frosted pinstripe head. I like the rim shot sound it makes.
Wow your live room sounds amazing!!!! Great video, love that there is no bullshit filler.
You mention Josh Freese. I recorded at a studio where he had also recorded. A few of his used sticks were left behind. They were clean at the grip and tip but totally chewed up in the middle where, the producer told me, Freese smacked a consistent rimshot on each hit.
you can think of rimshotting as a way of EQing from the throne. Pick what you need based on what the snare mix needs, rimshot is much louder than center hit btw.
shell punch: 250hz - rim + center
top head tang: 500-700hz- rim +center
rim crack: 1-2khz- rimshot only
snare wires: 5-10k - rim + center
This is wildly helpful man, thank you for putting this together!
why the album of aerospace does never came out; That was very good track. Is something that i can do to listen or buy the whole song that you played as an example;
finally. somebody who gets indie rock! thanks Rick.
Gotta love indie rock!!
Thank you for making videos... Your channel is one of my favorites right now!
By the way, waiting for the day you will make a CLA Drums Mixing Technique!
Andrey Benassi CLA has a tut on AudioLegends.com, and an excerpt on Slate Digital's YT-channel where he mixes a snare.
Why didn’t the Airspace album not come out? Those guys sounded awesome.
Great video... Cool you worked with Jump Little Children... They were such a great band.
Long time listener, Rick - just came across this vid. Interesting on the rimshots. I am a long-time drummer (since the 80s), and I've always wrestled in my head whether to rimshot or center hit in the studio. When recording, I've tended to center hit using a very bright snare (e.g. a Tama SLP Vintage Steel, or something like that), and have always wondered if I should be using rimshots. I do tend to hit the snare hard when I record, and in the many records I've played on, have never had the engineer or producer ask for rimshots - maybe because of how hard I tend to hit the snare. That said, Matt Johnson's tone is cool (although I maybe don't like it quite so "rimmy". I think next record I'm going to give rimshots a try on a few takes and see how I like the tone.
Anyway, as always, appreciate your thoughtful videos and depth of knowledge. You've given me something to think about.
Im a self taught drummer and only just learned what a rimshot actually is. I didn't know people hit the rim and the center at the same time. I'm watching dave grohl play drums now and it's quite noticeable now. I always thought a rimshot was hitting outside of the center near the edge of the rim
Thanks for all your videos!!!
I have learned a lot of things because of you! :D
But I was wondering if you coul do a video showing a snare drum with an emperor hazy (Remo) or a 500 hazy (evans) snare side heads :)
Thanks one more time, you're awesome!
I thought the supraphonic was the most recorded... and I swear I heard that from you on another video Rick. But maybe I’m crazy
A Black Beauty is technically a version of a Supraphonic.
@@hurricanus ooohhhhh
Man, I love your content. Great work. Very informative. Thank you!
Thanks Jared!
Great stuff man!
I have watched so many of your videos that I am actually starting to sound like you when I teach!
(I have about 50-60 private students, I teach drums bass guitar piano trombone trumpet voice music production theory)
My only funny comment here is that if I quote you directly, it works out that John Bonham grew up listening to Led Zeppelin! LOL
Ps Totally loving the “what makes this song great” series.
So insightful
great technical tips and nice to hear from your ( recording ) perspective. thx
Very interesting stuff, Rick. Thanks!
Very-very nice material, just would like to listen to the examples in full quality (stereo studio recording, not roomy cam mic sound from monitors). I understand it's time-consuming (I do it myself), but it would be so much better! Looking forward to new series!
Most of them are available on iTunes. I'll put links in the description
Certain things I never knew existed as facts! Thanks for the great educational video!
Great work...I am amazed of the productions and the music that you produced...wow, very impressive, massive, open sound...that is something that I would love to achieve someday...Regards!
+Konstantin Raidovski (Raido) Thanks Konstantinos! You know, I got fed up one day when I first started producing because I couldn't get a great snare sound with the drummers Snare
I was using. That's when I went out and purchased my first Snare. I own a bunch of them now that sound great on any recording. That's really the key. It's all about the sound source. Thanks so much! Rick
Wow thanks for sharing that...this is something that I am going through...I have been trying every miking technique that you mentioned plus a few others that I know for years, but I was always relying on the drummers kits, and the sound was not the way that I wanted it in my head...until I changed the kick and the snare during a session with an old Slingerland kick and snare from the seventies that were forgotten in a studio basement. That was a turning point...every time I try this kit against other...it just knock downs any dw, yamaha or whatever modern thing comes for recording. The same thing was with an old vintage Earth bass amplifier...there are things that are made to sit in the mix...:)
Very informative. Thank you Rick!
Thanks for the share, I will try the two microphones on my snare.
Thanks Rick love these informational videos keep them coming
For home studio work it can be more efficient as far as quality/expense ratio to work with just three mics. It’s great to have the option of using ten mics on a kit but with a bit of experimentation you can get very usable recordings with two overheads and one kick mic facing the reso bass head. A condenser along with the kick mic in front as well can really ad more detail if you can manage a fourth mic. Great channel tho! Just found it.
Another great vid Rick! Thanks so much for sharing...Especially those amazing recordings you produced of some great sounding bands! Continued success:)
One thing that wasn’t discussed that I have seen done before four extreme metal records is having super loose snare wires which gives the snare sound a shorter more drum heavy sound. I suppose it has to do with the mic placement not picking up the wires when they are so loose. Take for example cattle decapitation. You barely even hear the snare wires in some of their songs
Thank you mr Rick .
a technicien of Sound from Morocco
Saw Bad Company years ago. The drummer, Simon Kirke was playing one of these. That sound rang out and cut through the rest of the band unlike anything I've ever heard.
Appreciate you sharing all this wonderous knowledge with us
For years been throwing a condenser mic under the snare then putting it back in phase on the pre section. Post will often gate the bottom and only send to vrbs etc from s bottom mic.
Sounded like you were either not using a snare bottom or it was a dynamic mic on bottom?
Any insights as to how you are dealing with the snare bottom?
Thanks, Greg.
Had a drummer in our band for almost 17 years. At the end of the night, it looked like a family of beavers lived behind his set!
"We're in this Together Now" by Nine Inch Nails is a great example of how tuning the snare to a pitch can be a focal point of the song.
I checked that out, great recommendation, thanks!
Major label records are rarely removed from YT nowadays (at least the number of them I dealt with). They just get monetized by the rights' owners and you can further have'em in your videos. So give it a try, it would be very interesting to hear you big works!
+MrPbICb I put links to a few albums in the description. I have had 2 videos pulled off RUclips for using the recordings in my videos. They were both on wea which is what Needtobreathe and Shinedown are on.
This was very helpful,
thanks Rick!
Stunning mixes Rick
That fundamental is around Ab, the prominent overtone is Eb
How did he get the Eb pitch? I honestly don't hear the Eb. I hear dominating frequenices such as F, D and a little bit of C at the tail of the sound. Is it just me? I'm not questioning ears at all but I just don't hear an Eb.
Wow so much and great information. Thank you so much señor Rick!!
Excellent vid! I've done a lot of drum tracking and this stuff is spot on.
Could you make a clip of how they get that snare sound on a song by Amy Winehouse called "Moody's mood for love", it has like a ska or dub sound which is so distinctive and reminiscent of that genre.
Great video man, especially 7:30. Gonna go listen to that song now
Show how to recording drums with 2 mic in different ways