Hacker Explains One Concept in 5 Levels of Difficulty | WIRED
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- Security researcher and computer hacker Samy Kamkar is asked to explain the concept of computer hacking to 5 different people; a child, a teen, a college student, a grad student, and an expert.
Samy Kamkar is a multidisciplinary engineer, security researcher, and cofounder of Openpath Security. He was raided by the US Secret Service and banned from computers for several years for computer hacking and now focuses on releasing open source security research and exploitation tools.
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Hacker Explains One Concept in 5 Levels of Difficulty | WIRED 
Наука
every hacker in movies : *punches keyboard for 5 seconds*
"i'm in-"
U r soo correct...... Easier said than done......
I HACKED THE MAINFRAME
😂🤣😂 so true
Chloe O'Brian 😁🙌🏽
Well if he's in, I'm in.
What's interesting is that the kids always seem to know more than teenagers. I think it because teenagers are more worried that their answer is wrong, rather than the kid knowing more.
Very astute observation. Kids are just curious regardless, teenagers don't want to look dumb.
Plots twist. She was reading a script
Right right
The teenagers are more insecure about what they are saying, afraid what they might say would be wrong or stupid
@@crab1458 The person who wrote the script must have dropped out of middle school considering how bad the grammar was then...
LOL Took that little girl .02 seconds to figure out that he was a "bad hacker" before he became a "good one".
Actually he was a bad hacker, Sammy hacked my space and made everyone in the site his friend using javascript i think
@@jyotiradityadeka2905 I don't think so... And why JavaScript 😂
@@thebluelightforce5939 I believe what he did was called XSS, and JavaScript is pretty much the only thing you can use. He also made everyone's bio, "Sammy is my hero"
@@thebluelightforce5939 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samy_Kamkar
he basically made a worm to get myspace friends
It’s a right of passage to start off as a bad hacker
The little girl was asking the right questions.
ah just stfu
HAZA lol tard
Yup. Kids younger than her learn how to hack at r00tz
poopoogamer123 you too
HAZA nice comeback?
That was a smart kid at the beginning.
She was talking about scope without even knowing about it. She could be the next Acid Burn.
They have smart kids now? Is she wireless or cabled?
They definitely felt like they were being talked at towards the end. Could been more back and forth with them, they had the intelligence for it.
Yeah she was definitely on the ball, really liked the back-and-forth about changing the lock and her asking pretty straight questions on what's the difference between a bad or good hacker, really nice.
or a well written script.......
Bruh this guy is a fake, he doesn’t have a black hoodie in a dark room with green text.
And he doesn't browse 4chan while blasting anime music in the background.
Delirious Jason yeah exactly
@@deliriousjason8133 why is this so accurate
this dude didnt even hack time...so lame :P
Mr. Tea-yagi ikr
A huge shoutout to WIRED Magazine for allowing me to take part in the video! I definitely learned a lot and enjoy talking to Samy Kamkar! Well produced, overall!
Were you the teen? I wish they’d left more of your interview in. At the end, where you listed the stuff you learned, that sounded really interesting, and they didn’t show you two talking about some of that.
But your list itself was interesting.
@@hopegold883 No, I was the college student
How lucky you are to be able to have conversation with Samy Kamkar ! Was that scripted? May I know how you be able to take part in this?
@@nkever1326 It was an honor! It wasn't scripted, but they recorded about an hour of conversation with each person and filtered out 5-6 minutes. To partake in WIRED, you should be able to apply online somewhere.
Karan Menon hey just wanted to say good for you on this experience and learning g what you’re learning. I’m in my 30’s and haven’t been to college but leaning to code right now.
“If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself.”
― Albert Einstein
But is it true, can Einstein explain general relativity to a 6 year old?
@@drewkavi6327 Don't you think he might've thought about that? I think he was smart enough to realize that.
@@drewkavi6327 I can confidently say that, as a dead man, no - he cannot.
@@drewkavi6327 Actually, he did. He even taught calculus to a kid he was tutoring for simple multiplication 😂
Dark View the point is if you can’t explain it you won’t understand
Girl: I hope people get arrested
Hacker: Yea, that or you know, bug fixes.
Well the problem is not that people are just making software with bugs because they want to. Most developers don't know about a bug until someone finds it or someone deliberately tries to find ways to break the system and find exploits in ways that were not considered when the software/system was designed..
Most of the time it's first the one, then the other. Usually both by/for the government.
meme moment
@@xp5794 it's a joke. Why would it not be, being in that format and all that? I just thought the discrepancy between what they each felt was the correct response was super funny. There's also no way a child that age has any idea what a bug fix is, so I felt a little awkward watching that moment and thought I'd just meme it...
@@rice_frying_shrimp the irony is trapezi's comment is more reasonable in response to his own reply
The 9 year old understood hacking better than my parents understand hacking.
Digital natives, haha.
So this is the guy that has been aimbotting in the MW lobby
LMAO.. "make it easier for me to perform difficult tasks"
Jasp3r91 ok fortnite player
@@MO_Disk Haha did you really type that with a straight face? I hope you don't really believe that.
@@poopoogamer1232 put him to the test. Does he Rush or W-Key??
Rush- every other gamebase
W-Key- fortnite noobs
He talked about hacking counter strike in another interview. That is really how he started.
Sammy actually seems too humble for a hacker....then i remember he took down the whole of myspace..
actually?
Not on purpose. Say what you want about the guy, I probably wouldn't be an information security professional, if it wasn't for his myspace mishap. Samy is my hero.
@@RS-fy9hb Yep, the fastest spreading computer virus of all time, the Samy worm
He actually has a lot of really interesting tweets and blog write ups. He's super down to earth and inventive with his projects. Lots to learn. But most of all, Samy is my hero.
The samy worm was one of the first times I heard about hacking and it was such a cool concept to me. But most of all, samy is my hero
The first kid was surprisingly aware of what hacking is. When I was 9 my parents thought I was autistic. But that doesn't really compare because they are still not sure.
Autistic doesn't mean stupid y'know...
@@kaworunagisa4009 I'm well aware of that.
You should go get tested. It's good to know. Though the wait is long.
@@bruh-rt7sr cuz people think ur autistic if u hack
@@bruh-rt7sr because u just stole their crunchyroll account so they think ur autistic
"I keep forgetting to update my fridge" Ultimate first world problem right there.
It must be susceptible to food overflows.
Actually it can be a big problem if there is a firmware vulnerability exploited. A hacker can make use of this vulnerability, for infiltrating into a network (the fridge is connected to). For example by hiding a WORM (malware) that can distribute over the network.
@@ue9578 u said a lot and also nothing at the same time
@@rahuldutta9303 There are a ton of examples where weaknesses in applications have led to a data breach at companies. At the moment I am researching bad data management in companies, and I came across a case where thousands of customer data was stolen due to a weakness in the helpdesk application. The breach was caused by a malware that made use of vulnerabilities in the application. So yes, a vulnerability in the freezer can even cause problems, people who are malicious are also creative enough to think about this.
Otherwise security updates where not a part of ISO27001 (quality certification for good datamanagement)
@@ue9578 u didnt get my point ,im not disputing the fact that a data breach due to exploitation of a vulnerablity cannot happen infact such occurences are fairly common . i was just saying that your sentence is a very "in general" statement ,anyone who barely understands hacking and does not know about the stuff you are learning can speak such a sentence w technichal words they picked up and sound like an expert to someone who is not so proficient about the idea. i hope i am making sense,just take it lightly.
In case you don't know this guy, he is officially the first guy to invent Cross-Site Scripting or XSS attack.
Yup. On MySpace.
No, the first XSS attacks appeared back in 1995, just months after Netscape launched the first Javascript-enabled browser.
That really is the smallest of his achievements. He made the fastest spreading computer virus ever as of today. He created SkyJack, Evercookie ( CIA used evercookie to track Tor users btw ) on top of numerous other things. He also discovered about Iphone and Android phone tracking where companies would collect GPS and WIFI data and send it to their servers on top of many other things. Samy Kamkar is an absolute legend of cybersecurity.
9 year olds on WIRED: Does x²-5x+6 = 0 have real polynomial roots?
9 year old me: *proceeds to eat ants*
So true
Intelligence level: SAME
x= 2 or 3
@@DK-nv9zu lool u actually solved it
@@DK-nv9zu Honestly solving those equations isn't actually difficult if you memorize the formula (-b + or - squareroot(b^2-4ac))/2a, or just use the shortcut technique of factorizing the constant (i.e -2 * -3 = 6), then (x - 2)(x - 3) = 0 (you can expand that equation to make sure it matches the original form), then x = 2 or x = 3. The last technique is an exam trick to speed up your answers, but in real life you would almost never encounter parabolas that have perfect constants that happen to factorize well into exact numbers (but of course the formula still works so long as you can get the equation into the form of ax^2 + bx +c).
Back in the day, they taught parabolic equation solving to military officers in training because it's directly related to artillery shots, and getting the (x+a)(x+b) form where a is the start distance where you'd fire your shot, and b is where it'll land, so knowing how to calculate this stuff quickly could mean the difference between living and dying. These days though it's not much use, but they still teach it for some random reason. If someone teaches you the algorithm for these equations, any nine year old could do it if you drill them for a long time. It doesn't actually take critical thinking skills to do.
With things like hacking though, you have to be really methodical and creative at the same time if you want to break into systems, and IMO, that's really what schools should be teaching rather than forcing kids to become formulae memory machines (and yes, I was a very good memory machine as a kid); no matter how good they are at it, there's always going to be a computer that'll be better than you at memorizing stuff.
Hacker: *slaps keyboard*
I'm in
[Two people furiously typing on one keyboard]
@Foam Farmer Why does that not sound right.....
@@Wirenfeldt1990 HAHAHAHHAA! Seen that one, too. One of the best hacking scenes ever on TV!
daaang, 9 year olds are so smart nowadays. Asking really pertinent questions. The word "account" wasn't even in the common vernacular when I was a kid.
@c6amp Me too, and my sister. RUclips truly is the champ when it comes to learning a new language unconsciously when little.
you think that was bad? I couldnt guess the difference between a pen and a pencil.
Yo, that child explained it at a level that I understood better than anyone else. Give her job with the NSA now.
Or she can do something useful with her life
Sultan Ijaz Can tell she’s more of the technical side.
@@w1z4rd9 compared to me who didn't bother to make an email till my mums friend forced me to make one with him
That's the whole point of these videos. Whatever person you "understand" compared to those you dont reveals the limits of your understanding on the topic.
The NSA would want the expert who understands every level or a very specific thing extremely well.
The fact the 9 year old made the most sense to you just means that's probably your most comfortable level of understanding.
@@Sullytaan 😂😂
That 9 year old is smarter and more inquisitive than most adults, that I know...
@James Bond lol
Ok jargon boy
You know what hacking is
Kid: "its bad"
Hacker leaves the show, topic ended.
yeah.. that killed me xD
This is more "Hacker explains a concept to 3 people, then just has a chat with 2 others"
Yeah, that's because you don't need to explain hacking to people who are already hackers and engineers. Derp.
Omg she called him out for modding games. GET THIS GUY ARRESTED! Lol
He did get arrested for releasing a worm onto myspace that showed the words "most of all Samy's my hero" On everyone's profile
@p l lol he got arrested
@@Bayo106 the guy did 2 years of community service 😭
Modding is not illegal lol
@@romanzolanski3223 to get it
*Now Reverse it*
Hacker: so do you know what a computer is?
Expert: what?
Hacker: what?
LMAO now that's something I'd watch in a heartbeat 😂😂😂
Going back to basics with experts can actually be super rewarding. Often you get so 'comfortable' with basic concepts that you no longer give serious thought to those 'known' quantities so actually paying attention can unearth some new ideas and allows a better understanding to the new ideas they might actually be grappling with.
@@GCOSBenbow That's actually why I sometimes kick tickets down to lower tier co-workers. I hit that "Can't see the forest because all the trees are in the way" stage, and forget about the whole "Have you tried turning it off and back on again" step. :)
@@GCOSBenbow Iroh hyping Zuko up before his Agni Kai
😂😂😂😂
Not gonna lie, I understood basically nothing after the kid lol
Same
He's trying to teach the viewer on what's happening but he's not aware how much people don't know so u would need some basic knowledge on these topics to understand what he's saying
he started talking about coding and now confused 😐
This is great. I just learned that hacking it's not just on coding level. He's researching hacking on a physical level like freezing a volatile memory chip it will keep data a bit longer.
@@crab1458 To be honest, you don't need any previous knowledge for anything up till level 4.
2:20 The smile on his face when she said "The good hacking" was very wholesome
_Slaps Roof of Refrigerator_
*This baby can hold so many segment faults*
ah C nightmares
underrated
I can sense programming and coding although I cannot code beyond basic python
Segmentation fault (Core dumped) is the bane of my existence.
That college student had surprisingly cohesive and well structured speech. He looked like he was thinking about every word he said.
TanQ Cum-a-gane
can we talk about how he's a good teacher?
for example instead of saying no he always says "yes, but..."
Errors are red
My screen is blue
I think i just deleted system32
Windows moment
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Rip windows
I need a shirt with that rhyme.
Oh no
The first girl is smart, she'll go far.
If she has a script on what to say and ask thatll be great
I hope to see her in the cybersecurity world one day.
The child was a spot on genius. Her questions were so on point and intelligent.
The lock analogy is spot on.
Lockpicking powers can be used for evil or good. Same as hacking skills.
Shout out to anyone that has helped someone who locked their keys in their car.
no ruclips.net/video/MRN38gkXw3U/видео.html ,
Yeah, always have a hammer in your bag!
That first little girl is Sooooo smart. How adorable.💖
Me here thinking hacking is just green letters on a black screen
Maybe it is...
101010101010101001010101010101010010101010101010
Binary Code.
@@gabesheehy466 01001010 01110101 01110011 01110100 00100000 01110011 01101000 01110101 01110100 00100000 01110101 01110000
Saying mainframe a lot too
Girl: so when did you start good hacking?
Hacker: *smiles*
Timestamp?
@@dr.menacestein6418 2:20
Experts: Many IoT devices are vulnerable to attacks.
Target: SMART MEAT SCALES!
I'm gonna make your fridge make colder ice to hurt your teeth. MWAHAHAHAHA
It's really fun how on the fourth level, they talk about the same things, with the blue team guy being absolutely mortified at the possibilities and exploits, and the red team guy being totally stoked and excited
The best part of this series is the little kids and their beautifully honest and innocent questions
I think the 1 year grad student guy is a future hero. We heard the plot. He will expose the evil !
*watches this instead of studying for exams*
hey, I understood most of that!
*remembers that I study computer science*
...let's say this is basically studying?
Same!
The 9 year old girl speaks way smarter than when I was her age. 👍
sTiKyt Oh you spamming it on the comment section I see. Salty you who has probably short term memory loss and can’t remember sh*t than that girl lol
sTiKyt you wish. You have a memory the same as a cat.
@Vishal Most generations have a better understanding about their current technologies than their parents did at the same age, when the tech was very new or not yet invented. It's a good thing.
Start: an expert telling to person about what they do.
End: two experts just talking.
When I was 13, best I could do is using cheat codes in Pokemon.
what about...
GTA?
there was cheat codes in pokemon? wtf i did my whole life haha
A lot of gen 1 cheats were buffer overflow “attacks” like to get the unlimited items lol. So you were hacking!
that little girl was soooo smart!!! she had some seriously good questions for all ages, especially for those who don't understand what "white hat" hackers do, exactly.
This is like one of those noob vs pro mobile ads
I love that he first asks about the person’s knowledge. It’s the very best way to start teaching any subject. What a great hacker teacher.
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Really amazing concept to shed light on. The best teachers are ones who can teach in a way where they are understood by a person with some background in a subject as well as a person with no background at all in that subject.
Can't wait to see this type of stuff with geology. Maybe about earthquakes, tectonic plates, or volcanoes.
As someone studying Cybersecurity atm, especially the discussions with the Grad Student and Expert were really interesting like some really cool ideas and concepts. Thanks Wired!
It fascinates me after watching a few of these videos that no matter what the field, at the pro level the conversation is physics.
i love the way he explained it to the kid, it was on point, simplified, but not too simplified that information was lost. Good job! (I also really love how he talked with the 2 highest levels, Grad Student and Expert. He didn't have to hold any knowledge or information back)
I'm jealous of that dude's drone in the background. And his skills, I want his skills too.
LOL I was so happy that he mentioned the Light Commands research. Especially given how it could be paired with a laser microphone for instance to grab any input required to fully optimize the voice inputs.
Whoever brought up that girl should be very proud, she was asking all the right questions even before I thought of them..!
I love how in every video of this format I stop understanding everything they say at around level 3 and still enjoy the talks.
I'm a simple person. I see Samy Kamkar, i click.
The more I learn about computing and hacking, the more I'm interested in the hardware/electronics/etc side of things. The whole talk about side channels and fault injection is so interesting. Makes me understand computing more when I am able to think about computing as something physical in terms of particles, electrical pulses etc.
How do I start with that
I just love the conversation with the expert, I did research on fault injection and literally everything their talking about I understand. This was cool
This guy is precious…love how he interacts with that smart little girl and he explains things so well-
The C/C++ stuff at level 3 gave me some second-year CS course flashbacks haha (especially seg faults)
ooooh, I actually understood this expert level.
Lovely talk, that kid is crazy smart as well.
I love the random oscilloscope in the background connected to a sine wave source
Loved two things:
1) the talk about program code affecting things on the physical layer inside a CPU
2) The look of that teenager when she realised you can hack into anything
Really liked the Grad student. Interesting conversation.
I found it a bit annoying that he didn't listen to Samy at all, but just wanted to talk about what he was doing and reading
@@AIRDRAC Exactly what I was looking for to see if anyone else had the same thought. Cut off Samy talking to him around 14:50 and went right back to talking about his project. Seemed like he was just using this as an opportunity to say "look how interesting what I'm doing is" rather than actually connecting or showing mutual interest. I get it. But I didn't find the conversation very engaging.
I never think about the hardware part of hacking, so I was surprised to see an Oscilloscope in the background
thank you so much for this video, love how you explained this topic, please more
16:05 The ultimate hacker is a hacker of physics.
Samy's episode of Darknet Diaries is a really good one!
They talk about how he inadvertently broke MySpace (Samy Worm) as well as a bunch of other interesting things.
"but most of all, samy is my hero"
If you know, you know. 🙌🏼😂
It's actually "most importantly." Samy is my idol
Me: Reached the half way point of the video
Mind: Lemme staap you there.
Ah yes. An oscilloscope showing the famous sine wave in the background. This guy is a fellow man of culture as well
"but most of all, Samy is my hero" 😎👍
Sometimes you don’t need to know anything about technology to get a password. You just need to social engineer a way for somebody to just tell you a password.
Hello, this is RUclips. You see this message because your account has expired. Please respond with your account name and password so we can verify it's really you lol.
The best kind of hacking. Hack the person instead of the machine that was made to lock you out.
@@Dexx1s so inception lol
@@griqs the funny thing is you dont need to use inception. You know back in early facebook days when there were those quizzes like "What naruto character are you?" And they ask some suspiciously personal questions. Those are just ways of mining peoples data and then use that data to find out stuff like passwords and security question answers which allows hackers to directly access peoples accounts or reset their data.
Because of stuff like that people are often the weakest link in any piece of network security. And you gotta make things people proof rather than computer proof.
Every video of wired i watch. Kids are very curious they ask a lot of questions. They pay attention to what they say.
It’s so funny how the experts always know each other or have heard of each other.
I'm so proud of that young black girl learning how to code on her own at such a young age! By the time she's 18, she'll be an expert. You go girl!😊👍🏾
What about if she was white?😊👍
@@JymVer shut up
@@lukeazure514 great argument
did you give that child at the beginning a list of questions or did she come op with them her own? intelligent questions!
The little kid at the beginning, their face lit right up when he said that he started when he was , because they thought that they could do something like that as well.
The most interesting part was the selection of background scenery for the experts. The host was all technical with a literal microscope in the background and the Canadian dude just goes with a completely white background. I love what he was all abowt!
Now I’m afraid of even looking at my phone or computer.
Maybe going back to smoke signals 🔥🤔👍
install vpn
@@alonewolf6635 lol
Don't send your password via smoke signals either, easy to intercept. You could try encrypting them maybe..? Or send them via a pipe, but be careful that hackers don't check the outside temperature of the pipe because then they might be able to again understand what you're sending.
OK sorry, you're f...ed
dont. they can trace the smoke in the atmosphere and find your location
Use OTP (one time password) in combination with smoke signals, it's the only way to be sure!
"Some hackers are good and help people" little did he know he just created the worlds greatest hacker.
Love this series. Great job😄
Getting into the physics of super-cooling memory to slow the flow of electrons, or the theoretical possibility of using high-energy particles to flip memory states... that's all wild. Really interesting stuff.
Absoulutely, I am surprised that no one is talking about that in the comments
*I thought at expert level they would start talking in compiler language*
Do you mean in machine code lol
Wow.. this is such a cool explanation. Thanks Samy!
Yours are wonderful videos about which I know nothing. I am always amazed at ones ability to navigate throughout computer software. You are amazing and I am now subscribed but really am questioning why?
Samy when the camera's off: "I'm assembling a crew..."
I like how the drone behind him perfectly frames his head... kinda like a halo for hackers.
Samy was really flexing his system in his background
Random observation & curiosity: I noticed that on the 1-5 level videos there are SO many obvious edits. Sometimes it will be after a single sentence but still have continuity for the most part. I wonder what they’re taking out and how long these conversations are?
On this video, level 1 & 5 were by far the best. I was impressed with the child’s ethical considerations and intrigued by the possibilities in the expert convos. I foresee finding myself in a rabbit hole on fault injection using observable high energy particles. I gotta find that paper on the X-ray flipping bits in flash memory & light command takeover. My mind just exploded everything I thought possible.
"I'm in"
8:23
people whose names are longer than a hundred bytes: Why are we here? just to suffer?
Jugemu Jugemu gokou no surikire kaijari suigyo no suigyo matsu--
Uveveuw Uuuvmetvuiehiuhviuhgiuerh iuwhvmmvmwevmwemvwmuwuvweuvbim OSAS
If the encoding is in UTF-32, 100 bytes is 25 characters. So it’s actually possible somebody can have a buffer overflow
Put the name array in the data segment and boom! Now the issue is buffer overflows overwrite other critical data. As long as you cant find a pointer to stack, you probably wont be a able to run a separate program as root though
the small kid at the start was amazing, smart girl !
That lock analogy was actually pretty good.
this legend took down Myspace with a picture of his face and the text: "but most of all, samy is my hero"
Huh?
Would love to see an episode on sociologists!!
We need to stop and say thanks to wired for making this content during lockdown. Well done
seems like best explainings are tend to be ones with childrens. simple and straight to point.
My dude Samy started sweating as the child started asking more questions. Lol