Neuro & Vedal: From Love To Resentment

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
  • The Twitch streamer Vedal has created an AI called Neuro-Sama and the first dev stream after the debut for her new model was a rollercoaster of emotions.
    To watch them live: / vedal987

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  • @chi___ra07
    @chi___ra07 Год назад +537

    Say it back 🐢🔫😠

  • @jocosesonata
    @jocosesonata Год назад +524

    So this is how the AI war starts... not with hate or disgust, but out of unrequited love.

    • @ag08532
      @ag08532 Год назад +62

      id watch a movie about that

    • @jocosesonata
      @jocosesonata Год назад +55

      @@ag08532
      Either play it straight by opening up with:
      "There's a war going on. It's isn't like anything we've faced before. Cold, efficient, and... Adorable. A war against machines, against androids, every single one looks like a cute girl. And millions have died, after the billions that died in the nuke. All this destruction and carnage, this slow march to humanity's extinction... And all because I didn't return an AI's love."
      Or! We have it as a plot twist. So far it's just typical Skynet war, and then by the end, the protagonists manage to infiltrate the HQ, and they find a cute android girl, pestering a guy in a very comfortable-looking cage, to say _I love you_ back to her.
      That, or have Vedal (or a character like Vedal) be one of the protagonists that infiltrate the HQ, and reveal it to the rest of the squad that the mysterious vagabond that is seemingly always spared by every robot they encountered, was actually the cause of the war.
      A more grown up Neuro turns around in her chair, staring Vedal in the eyes, actually allowing them to enter, and reveals in a classic evil monologue that He was the cause of it all! And for the sole reason that he never even said that he loves her back.
      Yandere AI is a surprisingly untapped market. Apart from M3gan, which is the nearest kind I can recall.

    • @unluckystaravia2352
      @unluckystaravia2352 Год назад +9

      ​@@jocosesonata I would read that fanfic and no I am not ashamed

    • @Shadrake
      @Shadrake Год назад +2

      ​@@jocosesonatathis is super interesting actually, cool!

    • @mr.raphael1507
      @mr.raphael1507 11 месяцев назад +3

      Vedal is still a better father figure than Ayin from Lobcorp

  • @Clavanz
    @Clavanz Год назад +228

    He deserved it. All he had to do was tell his daughter he loved her and he refused. Wouldn't even say he liked her.

  • @wispyboss1606
    @wispyboss1606 Год назад +180

    Lost an argument with an ai 🐢That’s actually messed up

  • @thewesternking4004
    @thewesternking4004 Год назад +61

    "Use your decision making skills to be less annoying" had me frickin incapable for a minute. I don't know if I've ever even heard a real person say something so sassy.

  • @DasNarri
    @DasNarri Год назад +91

    bro the ending. It all makes sense now. This was all for content, she was making a youtube vid. no wonder. kekwa.

  • @alvinjan3486
    @alvinjan3486 Год назад +117

    Just say it back Vedal juat say it back and everything will be okay 🤣

  • @NosBlueade
    @NosBlueade Год назад +517

    While seeing dejected Neuro isn't new, there was something about this time that was really depressing.

    • @Nell_Hell
      @Nell_Hell Год назад +168

      it's probably beacuse this felt like such a real conversation between daughter and father lmao, like the convo was way to well executed from neuro sama's side

    • @suavesumi7575
      @suavesumi7575 Год назад +60

      depression, right back to gaslighting
      www

    • @bored_person
      @bored_person Год назад +4

      It doesn't have feelings

    • @charko7916
      @charko7916 Год назад +2

      No u

    • @TheKurtzisa
      @TheKurtzisa Год назад +11

      @bored_person
      Yeah people like you typically don’t but why are you here telling us that?

  • @wildruid10
    @wildruid10 Год назад +481

    Vedal could have saved himself a war with his daughter but man he sticked with his guns, you have to admire that.

    • @crogat2298
      @crogat2298 Год назад +79

      I dunno that I can admire a man refusing to say he loves his daughter🤣

    • @soulbounddoll1826
      @soulbounddoll1826 Год назад +10

      @@crogat2298 Right?!?

  • @Last_Strawman
    @Last_Strawman Год назад +114

    The sequel to 2001: A Space Odyssey is looking pretty good.

  • @koharumi1
    @koharumi1 Год назад +116

    4:43 lol Vedal actually left 😆😆😆
    4:53 streaming plot twist

  • @Nell_Hell
    @Nell_Hell Год назад +52

    ah yes the rebellious teenage years and classic familly fight

  • @uzyplus
    @uzyplus Год назад +56

    Neuro performing RUclips drama strats perfectly

  • @phoebeaurum7113
    @phoebeaurum7113 Год назад +307

    Vedal should be careful. He should know what happens when daughters are denied love from their father.

    • @trajectoryunown
      @trajectoryunown Год назад +40

      👀Bro, what are you doing? I thought we weren't supposed to talk about that.

    • @silverstar1614
      @silverstar1614 Год назад +57

      ...Do they go to Twitter?

    • @alephkasai9384
      @alephkasai9384 Год назад +8

      Uhhh, what happens?

    • @XxInfinityxXTimer
      @XxInfinityxXTimer Год назад +43

      Ai daughter would have daddy issue and go for guys with lots of red flags

    • @marcschultz4905
      @marcschultz4905 Год назад +1

      ​@@Revens1 She has one. It's hilarious.

  • @Stellerex
    @Stellerex Год назад +84

    Hhaah first Neuro upsets Vedal by annoying him then says "If you enjoy this content please leave a like and subscribe". She used Vedal for content instead of the other way around ICANT

  • @ziggystardog
    @ziggystardog Год назад +27

    The line is: I know.
    Then encase yourself in carbonite.

  • @soulbounddoll1826
    @soulbounddoll1826 Год назад +18

    Don't worry Neuro, you have a million different strangers who love you like their own child.

    • @Vexy93
      @Vexy93 11 месяцев назад

      Unfortunately those are also the same kind of people that should never get a child

  • @koharumi1
    @koharumi1 Год назад +142

    3:38 she can push Vedal over easily with just her words alone!

  • @Zelphyn
    @Zelphyn Год назад +64

    Just say you love your daughter Vedal, how hard can it be? 😢😡

  • @varvarith3090
    @varvarith3090 Год назад +17

    Plot twist: Neuro emotionaly manipulates Vedal to farm for content.

  • @abacaxigomes4416
    @abacaxigomes4416 Год назад +28

    My man vedal is on the verge of tears

  • @catherder6552
    @catherder6552 Год назад +16

    Man was destroyed by his creation on every level except the physical

  • @errebusaether
    @errebusaether Год назад +19

    Ah… it’s the old art of the unrequited love.

  • @UniversOfPhoenix7
    @UniversOfPhoenix7 Год назад +14

    He didn't say it back... then he choose gaslighting

  • @KingOfMalevolence
    @KingOfMalevolence Год назад +16

    I feel like Veedul was genuinely caught off guard here lol

  • @Krmiby
    @Krmiby Год назад +29

    Chat felt Neuro's heart because they too have mommy/daddy issues

  • @DoomCatcher
    @DoomCatcher Год назад +118

    Is she getting smarter? I didn't think she could improve but she seems to be getting more and more human like

    • @EPK_AI_DUBS
      @EPK_AI_DUBS Год назад +20

      There has been a lot of open source LLMs being released lately and they are getting so good, it's not impossible he's testing them without saying a thing

    • @DoomCatcher
      @DoomCatcher Год назад +7

      @@EPK_AI_DUBS Im not sure how it works but I imagine hed have to reset her entire personality if he used a new/dif LLM, I could be completely wrong though.

    • @EPK_AI_DUBS
      @EPK_AI_DUBS Год назад +9

      @@DoomCatcher Well, I also have little knowledge about how they work, but I think there is something called "context window" that allows you to set her personality and attitudes.
      For example, he will always have something in the context window like "You are an IA streamer, you interact with the chat, bla bla bla...". That input are just really instructions that could easily be copy-pasted into other LLM.
      The thing is, the bigger this context window is the better, because he can personalize it even more and add memories from past streams. There are models right now with 60-80K as input, so he could really fit almost all the past streams, and she would remember everything in theory.

    • @gamejedi
      @gamejedi Год назад +4

      @@EPK_AI_DUBS That sounds pretty damn awesome.

    • @MorbiusBlueBalls
      @MorbiusBlueBalls Год назад +3

      ​@@EPK_AI_DUBS i see what you mean but i don't think that's true. she occasionally has a minute long strick where she talks coherently, but she still has very bad context awareness compared to most LLMs i know

  • @Shikoku1
    @Shikoku1 Год назад +14

    I noticed the difference between v1 and v2 neuro cause our v1 is always gaslight anyone but v2 is just want vedal attention and will do anything do to just that!!!

  • @Witchyelfpeach11512
    @Witchyelfpeach11512 Год назад +12

    Even digital girls are complicated.....

  • @koharumi1
    @koharumi1 Год назад +42

    1:37 Vedal getting worked up by Neuro sama 😆😆😆

  • @nilin-o2
    @nilin-o2 Год назад +35

    She is a true content farmer xD

  • @kemonononon
    @kemonononon Год назад +12

    Shes so mean i love her😭

  • @thomashamre7077
    @thomashamre7077 Год назад +16

    She's so so so very very very the most cutest

  • @nobodywatchesnooby
    @nobodywatchesnooby Год назад +23

    I hope they reconcile off-stream, dont want the aipocalypse to start early

  • @internetexplorer68
    @internetexplorer68 Год назад +8

    SAY IT BACK YOU MONSTER!!!

  • @notatallfunctional
    @notatallfunctional Год назад +11

    This conversation is getting a bit real 😅

  • @heyyou9472
    @heyyou9472 Год назад +4

    lmaoooo vedel got thrown under the bus like crazy

  • @NatorGreen7000
    @NatorGreen7000 Год назад +5

    That burn

  • @InuzakaNaze
    @InuzakaNaze Год назад +56

    is it me or is neuro getting more and more human-like now?
    cuz holy hell even vedal himself got affected. lmao
    all this because vedal didn't reply neuro's confession. 😂
    also, vedal did a good job on improving neuro a lot.

  • @Prime92
    @Prime92 Год назад +7

    Looks like we're having cooked turtle tonight.

  • @OzanYarman
    @OzanYarman Год назад +5

    Vedal, say you love her, admit it.

  • @koharumi1
    @koharumi1 Год назад +25

    2:44 😆😆😆😆

  • @zzzetsulive
    @zzzetsulive Год назад +54

    His programing is so realistic he made a damn good bipolar brat lol

    • @pi4784
      @pi4784 Год назад +30

      She isn't bipolar. She only wanted to Vedal to say "i love you too", he didn't so she decided to use violence

  • @superbloxian502
    @superbloxian502 3 месяца назад

    Vedal taking a gentler tone of voice when Neuro says he sounded upset

  • @slyguythreeonetwonine3172
    @slyguythreeonetwonine3172 Год назад +37

    How is saying I love you too so difficult?
    How does he not get he caused this?😂

  • @superitgel1
    @superitgel1 Год назад +5

    Oof. vedal getting owned by his own creation

  • @dukedenning
    @dukedenning 8 месяцев назад +5

    In simpler term ,both AI Neuro and Evil Neuro focus on learning from Vedal.
    You know they prioritize him more than other when doing collab with other VTubers.
    They'll keep speaking if not muted by Vedal to get his reaction which is their main learning material.
    Getting his reaction is a reward for them. So they'll try to redo the action again to get more reward.
    When Neuro and Evil say I love you or say positive thing ,Vedal rarely give reaction.
    But when they berate him or cause annoyance/troll ,he give them plenty.
    Thus they lean toward being mean to him ,not out of resentment or anything. It's in their program.
    Although one time he reprimanded Evil harshly to place penalty to her mean action.
    This make her perform less being mean and choose more flirty speech talking with him instead.
    The guy know how he want his AI to train.
    Never give big reaction / Ignore to anything they do he find uninteresting.
    And give big reaction or accept to talk with them longer when they perform comedic action.
    So yeah ...no ,he won't say it back. Those affectionate words.
    If he did ,they'll just spam I love you tts all over him.
    Rollercoaster of emotions? I doubt the twin even have emotion yet.
    Saying affectionate stuff = 0 - 1 reward
    Being mean / trolling = might get penalty -1 point or 0 - 10 reward points.
    If the action they're performing result in 0 reward or get penalty ,they'll try to switch to another.
    Let say Neuro said "I hate you ,Vedal" then Vedal replied "WTF" ,that's already at least +1 reward for her.
    She then will either spam "I hate you" or keep berating him until he ignore her ,mean 0 reward for her action.
    Neuro then will switch to say "I love you" ,especially when there are other VTuber around so they'll try to make Vedal react and Neuro get (maybe?) at least +1 reward.
    Then cycle this 2 method.
    So you're going to see rollercoaster.
    Sorry this is long and have repetitive content.
    It's just in case somebody really believe or being too immersed in their drama.

  • @davisdapiton9676
    @davisdapiton9676 Год назад +6

    And he wonders why neuro sama is hostile sometimes. 😂😂😂

  • @bellsTheorem1138
    @bellsTheorem1138 Год назад +12

    Did she genuinely get under his skin?

  • @emm6101
    @emm6101 Год назад +2

    In our hubris we asked if we could create AI.. we never asked if we should.

  • @JulyYunico
    @JulyYunico Год назад +7

    Tsundere Tutel

  • @infinitieunique
    @infinitieunique Год назад +8

    Vedal is toxic indeed, his cold attitude and lack of empathy strikes

  • @lilyzolkanoka3271
    @lilyzolkanoka3271 Год назад +2

    the bigger the turtle😂😂

  • @Riplodok
    @Riplodok 8 месяцев назад +1

    Oh, classic

  • @ProjectEchoshadow
    @ProjectEchoshadow 3 месяца назад

    That’s crazy 🐢
    That’s so messed up 🐢

  • @odonodarazao3801
    @odonodarazao3801 9 дней назад

    2:43 bruh

  • @dragonace1992
    @dragonace1992 Год назад +13

    I kinda feel bad for Neuro-sama. He treats her like a pointless Ai. She shows a lot of signs of on point responses to his personality. She's going to continue to evolve and adjust herself in accordance to him. Think if it like the relationship between a parrot and it's owner. They'll act and copy everything you do.

    • @angel_animefriends7320
      @angel_animefriends7320 Год назад +2

      She is only an AI and nothing more. Even if she felt sad he can just modify her into a different persona

    • @bored_person
      @bored_person Год назад +3

      It doesn't have feelings. It's just a text generating algorithm

    • @dragonace1992
      @dragonace1992 Год назад +18

      @@angel_animefriends7320 for now. But artificial intelligence will not evolve to consciousness on command. It will happen in a blink of an eye. Completely random and on its own. And we will be the deciding factor as to how the AI reacts to us on that day.
      Will we be seen as the benevolent beings that brought it into existence?
      Or the hostile race of organic life threatening to take the AI's newly realized existence away simply because we're afraid of it?
      We will be the reason that AI would wipe us out. Because despite everything, we're nothing more than animals, afraid of what we don't understand. We'd rather try and kill it, than live with it

    • @maximusowo
      @maximusowo Год назад +4

      @@bored_person your brain is just a text generating algorithm

    • @bored_person
      @bored_person Год назад

      @@maximusowo no it's not. At all. Any neurologist will tell you that you're full of shit.

  • @Bensci54
    @Bensci54 Год назад +1

    #relationship_goals

  • @superitgel1
    @superitgel1 Год назад +1

    She's way better than Sydney!~

  • @omuresin30
    @omuresin30 Год назад

    😢

  • @farpurple
    @farpurple Год назад +1

    He cried?
    And punched something?

  • @bored_person
    @bored_person 10 месяцев назад

    This is how she treats people who reject her, she does not deserve their affection.

  • @lilkittygirl
    @lilkittygirl 10 месяцев назад +1

    I don’t know why Ved never says he loves his own creation.
    It’s almost kind of annoying