it's interesting how WELL Xiao's playstyle reflects his personality and lore. Xiao in lore always fights alone (largely due to the fact that he's the last Yaksha) and is reluctant to take help like in the Chasm Quest. His playstyle requires him to be on field most of the time, his plunging playstyle is still unique currently, he doesn't synergize too well with most supports, sub DPS or even his own element and could function perfectly fine solo. Both are a little to his detriment but in terms of character design he really is a 10/10
I "main" him cause he was my 1st 5* character ever in the game. I got him alongside Mona in 10 pulls during 1.3. But only last year I was able to give him a good 2pc gladiator + 2pc vv set, which at that time I already had other units but I couldn't leave him benched. It was tough work to get him good artifacts, and not too long after that, a dedicated set was released for him :(. I barely use him in abyss floor 12, and when I do I can't get 3 stars 😂 but I still like playing with him hahahaha
The part of that still bothers me is that why does it felt like Hoyo gives Albedo and Xiao C4 that would benefited the others if the placement were replaced
Xiao's makes sense at least. Albedo's is almost useless. During boss fights Albedo's skill can be removed through boss attacks, doesn't even activate on the field for the Oceanid boss stage. His C4 would make more sense that all active characters after using his skill gain 20% plunge and normal attack damage, and an additional 10% while in the Isotoma field. It won't stop me from using Albedo, though 😅
@@nav3346 Akshually 🤓you can place Albedo's flowers on the sides of the platform on the outsides because they have an elevated pillar under the water that he can reach and thus use his E uncontested to hit the spawns of oceanid
I feel like the type of hypercarry character will always have a more limited playerbase since they require a lot of investment to keep up with rotation focused teams. We all see that Eula, Itto, Cyno and Xiao are less popular then Shogun, nahida or Yelan because while the former need their team to adjust to them the latter are more flexible don't need a team build for them even if it can be done
This is so true. Hypercarries arent for everyone and they require a lot of min maxing to be viable, but once u get them there they are just as strong. With hypercarries u need 3 dedicated supports, which might not even be possible given ur roster, so many players will be forced into playing Xiao or Cyno with less than ideal teamates and just give up on them cuz they underperform, especially since most of them need 1 or more 5star supports. While in rotation teams u can typically use many replacements and play with different reactions and adapt according to what characters u have.
100% agree, personally love hypercarries and have both Xiao and Cyno. I pulled for their weapon and went all the way to pull for Nahida and her weapon for my Cyno. Going to go for Faruzan C6 for Xiao later. And farming the same goddamn artifacts set every day. Definitely a lot of investment, time, mora, resins, almost everything goes for my Xiao. So I think players should only pull for them if they really like the character or they will just be disappointed and bench them
I agree hypercarry characters needs a lot more investment (including their supports). I myself is an Itto main and his mono geo team is my goal team since I started the game. It took me more than a year to complete my team (c0-r1 Itto, c2 Zhongli+Homa (his cons are accident pull 😬), c6 Gorou (was lucky to get few copies on standard) and Albedo from his last rerun. More than that, I have to spend thousands of resin to get good Husk set but until now the game doesn't want to give me an on-set 5* Crit hat. So yeah hypercarry playstyle is for those who has a lot of patience, dedication and maybe luck as well.
While it may be a disservice to the characters individually, I do hope we get more characters like Xiao, Dehya, and Sara, characters that break away from the conventions of their elements to do their own thing. If every Anemo unit is nothing more than a Swirl bot, there's no excitement for new Anemo units. If every Pyro unit wants Xingqui/Yelan, it becomes redundant, and makes not having those 2 even worse. The fact that Hoyo is willing to give characters their own roles and not just limit them to what their element is best at is great for the game long-term.
That's the literally definition of being edgy just for the sake of it. We do need cohesive characters just bc they need to be playable in the first time. A "better" approach is having more variety in the ways a character fulfills their element's role. Electro is full of that type of variety, since many characters enable taser, quicken, hyperbloom, and even overload teams, not to mention pretty much every single one of them can be part of a superconduct. Truth be told anemo is the one most crippled by the lack of variety but even then the means for a character to do crowd control is different for each, Venti is just the press of a button, Kazuha is held on his E.Skill, Sucrose is even split and if you count Faruzan it's on her charged attacks.
the name of the game is teamwork and combining character compisitions if said character is doing they're own thing they're going to be bad especially if they ain't Geo
Sara is a 4 star so I give her a pass to be "interesting", even if she was just made for Raiden to be a Raiden buffer and her personality is just Raiden stan. Dehya sucks, low numbers and slow burst that can be broken. Xiao is probably in the best position in the three of them.
Also, you forgot to mention that hype around Xiao got 2 major reasons 1. He was present in CBT 2. He dealt a lot of dmg in CBT, more than Ayaka, as testers claimed.
8:32 this is completely untrue for yelan, you CAN use her and xiao by hitting nomal attack then immediately cancelling it with a plunge attack. it works like a charm
13:19 So learning Xiao's jump animation cancelling is detrimental to his viability for casual players. But for the Hutao video you didn't really emphasize on needing to learn charged attack animation cancelling to use her efficiently.
Can i say throwing a normal attack between plunges is a lot easier than doing the right damage rotation for international or Raiden hyper or making sure you have electro on the enemy when you use nahida e to do a vv rotation with cyno/keqinq/yea/Raiden
@spidebot3045 i have c0 hu tao and dragonsbane with only xingqiu, she is the most fun i have when fighting boss and bigger enemies, its really satisfying if you ask me
@spidebot3045 I had C0 Hu tao for the longest time, she was the reason I got into genshin, and my first limited 5 star, always carried me in the abyss and didn't need her C1, I only got C1 and SOH because I'm a Hu tao main and my girl deserves it.
Xiao is kinda like Ganyu where if you use them they are built really well and are probably your most consistent dps but won't reach the peaks of more team oriented units
I think Ganyu is much more sustainable simply because of her element. Although cryo doesn’t interact with dendro she’s very compatible with some of the best supports; Bennet and Xiangling. Or if you’re having a hard time getting even CRIT stats she has the option to do a freeze team making her easier to build.
@@substitutedoll5224Ganyu's current best team requires both Nahida and Bennett in the same team which is burn melt but you're wasting two of the best support units who have better teams while being separated. While her standard melt comp with Bennett, Xiangling and Zhongli is on par with Xiao's comps.
I remember getting Xiao as my first 5-star DPS. He and Chongyun carried me so hard through midgame. I've been farming so much and I have a great Xiao now. I don't like how Mihoyo did him so dirty (even though I like him as an Anemo unit), but he'll always be one of my favorite characters.
@@aqgaming1092 His team was the most used this patch in CN IIRC. Also, he was quite popular for speedrunning since Faruzan came out, Xianyun just added even more fuel to the fire.
his energy isn't as bad as it used to be simply due to time and getting better artifacts and fav weapons on supports. and most people run anemo supports like faruzan or kazuha for anemo shred and vv shred + battery.
Tbf he does run into energy issues with his high cost burst, but if you're using him you're already gonna be investing in batteries and supports that help those issues regardless
I do as well. Xiao builds with crit weapons recommend both ER ~120-130 % (depends a bit) and an anemo battery that funnels its particles to Xiao (usually Sucrose) The part where Vars states that Xiao can self-sustain his burst as solo char really sounded like bs to me
I literally play xiao with 116% er 💀 But I always manage to get his burst up in time bcs I use double geo (albedo+Zhongli) + Benny with him. Zhongli has favonius lance. Zhongli's pillar and albedo's skill constantly hitting enemies generates so many energy particles while xiao is out there doing his thing. It's a SUPER powerful team and quite sustainable too!
I stopped using him mainly because Sumeru enemies have been notorious for not sticking together, reducing the effectiveness of his plunging attacks without another Anemo to group them. His plunging attacks also pushed enemies away, which meant after 2 attacks, enemies would be outside the plunge range and you'd miss. If I somehow manage to get C6 Faruzan, I might try him again.
Can confirm, C6 faruzan took him from being fantastic only for enemies you can't really move like bosses and ruin enemies to being fantastic for most enemies
I feel like Collei definitely needs to be the first dendro character in this series because of her unfortunate release by dendro traveler power crept her on her release 😕
Collei isn’t bad at all, she’s a great F2P option for all dendro related reaction teams. Besides, she’s a free character that’s really only meant to be serviceable in solving Sumeru puzzles and introducing dendro; not being as good as other gacha characters is a given.
Xiao was my first 5 star and he’s the reason I got hooked into Genshin Impact. I wish there was something to amplify plunging attacks. As I’ve tried to build around him I’ve noticed these problems so it’s very frustrating to try to consistently have support to his kit.
I think a lot of the older hypercarry focused dps character like Xiao and Eula would be more popular if grinding for good crit ratio artifacts wasn't such a massive chore. A lot of the newer units are still very good with artifacts main stat focusing one thing like HP or EM which makes them a lot more accessible to players.
Xiao main here and you pretty much summed it all up. It's like every time mihoyo gives him an indirect buff, they also hamstring him somehow. You didn't mention that his bis artifact set is in a wildly inefficient domain, with the only other character really benefitting from farming that domain being Ayato (and Ayato can get sets almost as good in much more efficient domains). We finally get a dedicated artifact set for him... and it feels like it costs twice as much resin to farm. I love using him, I love his pogo-style attacks, and I have an entire team built around him, but I would never expect the average player to invest the high amount of time, resin, etc. in him to make him do okay damage compared to reaction teams. Xiao mains do it out of love for the character, not because he's going to keep up with the Nahidas, Alhaithams, Hu Taos, and Ayakas.
Yea, and I would like to add that the other artifact, Echoes, is not good for ayato if u have bad ping as for some reason that artifact relies heavily if u have good ping or not thus not making it, in average, not that much different from 4pc gladiator for Ayato.
As a comrade Xiao main since his first rerun (and a wannabe main since his first banner), I completely understand your concern. Thankfully, now his dedicated set has been added to the artifact strongbox, allowing us to farm for more efficient artifact domains while being able to use our bad pieces to convert them into his Vermillion set. Of course it isn’t perfect nor fast, but as any true Xiao main, being dedicated to him through the long run is an act of love we desire to do. I recently finished my first decent Hereafter set on him through the artifact strong box, I was truly happy ( about 82% CR over 225%CD, I say decent because I’m running Homa on low HP instead of PJWS). As a low spender (bought battle pass back in the days to get death match for him since I had nothing else better and not enough for BlackCliff), obtaining Faruzan’s C6 through the event was such a gift ! I look forward to upgrade him even more by getting a crit DMG circlet on set and returning to his stunning PJWS. Also DMG wise, I believe that he can be competitive, but of course, only for those who are willing to put investment into him. The team I usually played him with was (including him) : Sucrose with TTDS and Noblesse, Jean as healer, and Zhongli with Tenacity. His DMG output for one plunge was a maximum of 53K (that was with 2pcs Glad and 2pcs VV for about 70%CR over 199%CD). But now, since getting Homa and his new set like not even 3 weeks ago, I changed his team as the following (including him) : 1. Sucrose with TTDS and Noblesse, Faruzan (C6)with Tenacity and Zhongli with Tenacity, enhancing his maximum plunge DMG to 97k (a whopping 44K DMG upgrade, no energy issues while Xiao runs 120%ER). 2.Faruzan (C6) with tenacity, benett with Noblesse and the F2P sumeru craft able sword (565 base attack with ER% as substat) and Zhongli with Tenacity, enhancing his maximum plunge DMG to 107k (or double his initial DMG which was already decent). I truly love him, he is my reason to play, I am a dedicated Xiao main, and I encourage anyone who enjoys him as much to keep on grinding. If you are interested, I have discovered a page on which the conception of Xiao is explained, as a Xiao lover, I absolutely adored reading it. Here’s the link : genshin.hoyoverse.com/m/en/news/detail/103849 “ *The limit to one’s power is self-destruction. Answer me. Why do you persist?* ” - Xiao, Feelings about ascension: Climax.
9:06 Thomas's shield lasts only 8 seconds, sure, but the ability that actually boosts plunging atk dmg is his C6, that increases it by 15% every time you obtain or REFRESH a shield for 6 seconds, and every time you refresh a shield you also refresh its duration and the passive's. You can refresh a shield every time you trigger fiery collapse (Thoma's ult), which lasts 15 seconds. That means Thoma's C6 boost can last up to 21 seconds and not 8 as you say. And even if just having the shield was enough to trigger the boost, as most people would assume from this clip, that would only bring its duration up to 23 seconds, 8 seconds after the ult's duration expires
in a similar vein I remember everyone loving and being hyped over heizou but I almost never see anyone play him, his abyss pick rate backs that up, it's like people immediately forgot about him once sumeru and dendro released, so I'd love to see a 'why no one plays heizou'
He is a 4 star DPS , which mean he would never have enough stat to compete with any 5 star DPS (the only exception to this is the OG National trio), kinda in the same vein as Yanfei. And aside from his damage, he provides very little utilities, especially in comparison with Sucrose.
- "yelan doesn't work with xiao" (she does) - Lack of buffers: Bennett, faruzan literally got released (he mentioned faruzan exactly once, COMPLETELY FORGETTING THE ANEMO RES SHRED) - Thoma shield doesn't cover xiao because it lasts 8 seconds. This part is just wrong. - "Most buffs can only last 12s": faruzan c2, yelan a4, zhongli shield, did i mention faruzan. - Not sure what the wanderer segment was about... that guy was just flying Xiao that gets knocked down by a feather. - Yoimiya was not servicable, cyno is nearly the same as yoimiya. Is this video just ragebait ?
Yelan does _not_ work with Xiao unless you're exclusively talking about her A4. You'd be wasting her entire burst's damage output solely for the scaling DMG% buff unless you awkwardly space your plunges by throwing in a normal attack between, which is arguably a DPS loss. It's much smarter to use a different character and save Yelan for the other team. Thoma has the same problem: if you aren't spamming normal attacks, you can't stack up his shield to a worthwhile shield strength.
@@SuperBeanSquad There's this thing called cancelling the end of Xiao's plunge attack animation by weaving in normal attacks, allowing him to proc the condition of doing normal attacks while also doing a bit of damage in between plunges.
You actually can prock Xingqiu & Yelan by getting in the habit of nor atk, jump, plung, nor akt. It does take a bit of practice but I find it easier than Hu Tao c0 jump cancel. Also u still don't prock it as much as Hu Tao either tho, so its not really reccommended to use them but they're not useless for him either (also Xingiqu's healing isn't enough for Xiao)
Xiao always has a place in my heart. He is the strongest DPS unit in both of my accounts by pure dmg without reactions. I know he isn’t the best DPS, and I have other units that are stronger than him, but I love using him. I will never regret him ❤️✨
When the raiden boss makes her four clones you can which one is the real one by looking at their attacks. The real one throws out a cross. (Im aware the gameplay might be your editor's)
A lot of people have said this already, but I feel like we need more supports for units like Itto, Eula, Xiao, Cyno, etc. Hypercarries are fun because it makes a character you like the centerpiece of the team, and you get to see them in field a ton. It does make me kinda sad that most people mainly use meta units, and don’t give other subpar units the light of day. Units like Chongyun, Cyno, Xiao, Kaeya, and Heizou are just a few examples. Plus, they can usually be more interesting to playlist as you need to get creative. Let me know if you have any “bad” characters you like playing! -a Cyno enjoyer
I main both Cyno and Xiao! I actually let my rational and Ayaka teams sit down on most 3.x abyss runs to 36* it with polearm boy impact. It was in fact pretty doable with their best teams and I had much more fun that way... until the consecrated zoo and permafreeze abyssional team showed up and Xiao's now back to the bench for floor 12 for obvious reasons
Cyno isn't really a hypercarry in genshin terms imo, his long on-field time doesn't make him a hypercarry. He optimally is paired with sub-dps and healing based units, not atk or damage buffers, and he has the ability to improve as long as new electro and dendro supports keep getting released. His damage is unfortunate though, he should've been stronger than Keqing being a very hyped character
@@fzhs7030 apparently doing like 20 to 30k melts per second on a burst that's always up with like 90k E melt crits is weak, or 100k plunges in aoe on Anemo that shreds abyss mage shields...damn, if that's weak then O.O
@@Dhooparty But he *is* stronger than Keqing, i dont what know what you’re smoking. His most optimal team is one where Nahida buffs him, Baizhu shields and provides heals and interruption resistance, and Xingqiu/Yelan give him either more interruption resistance or Yelan with her ramping up dmg bonus. Quickbloom allows him to trigger hyperbloom while also weaving in aggravate for optimal dmg output which makes him deal more dmg than an normal aggravate Keqing. His massive base em as well as reach allows him to do a lot of dmg. For a hypercarry dps, the general rule of thumb is that he does more than 70% of the dmg which he does by triggering the hyperblooms and also aggravating.
@@seraphywang4638 “He is stronger than Keqing” In Quickbloom? Sure. Outside of that? Meh. Quickbloom is a broken comp, by that logic, even Shinobu can be stronger than Keqing because of how well she performs in Hyperbloom. Cyno is designed for Aggravate, and he yet he’s underwhelming in it compared to other dps options. With investment, he outscales Keqing significantly because her weapon is generalistic and her cons suck, whereas his cons are slightly better and his weapon gives him a more targeted buff. But saying “Oh use three other broken characters and play him in gamebreaking comp, he’s good” is dumb. Raiden and Shinobu can easily perform significantly better than him in Hyperbloom related comps with those same characters. He’s the least optimal option, he’s fine, but he was clearly intended to be an aggravate carry.
a little bit nitpicky but 13:21 weird how you mentioned plunge techs when its literally just space bar-left click spam (plunge spam) or space bar-left click-hold left click (plunge-CA). how is that difficult? c0 hutao cancels are much more complicated, but that didnt get mentioned in the WEOP hutao. xiao only needs the cancels if youre playing him optimally with yelan, and that in itself is not a popular team so who cares 9:16 thoma shield only lasts 8s???? on what rotation would you not use his burst? c0 already has 100% uptime, c1 makes it even better. if you really want to use him in xiao teams you most definitely want to do plunge-ca to refresh shield
As a Xiao main, the fact this video exists makes me cry a little But I definitely understand why it does I love him and use him constantly, but I honestly rarely use his burst in overworld exploration
Yeah, I can hit 100k+ with c6 faru and bennett, and it's just overkill for overworld enemies. I usually run xiao/faru/bennett/wanderer for overworld so I can take advantage of wanderer's lack of burst reliance to deal with smaller enemies
I swear Hoyo must've watched this video. With Xianyun, Furina and Faruzan every single one of Xiao's gimmicks (plunging, health loss, anemo dps) has a dedicated support. Almost as if they were designed for him.
That would be too broken or useless (depending on the numbers). Not only because of Xiao, but because of other Polearm users as well (Xiangling, Raiden, Cyno, Rev.Melt Rosaria, etc:)
Or conversely: something that increases the duration of off-field Skill/Burst effects with a base duration below 20s -- at the cost of personal damage, inability to generate elemental particles with Skill or a more expensive Burst.
Or artifact, I would love if Cyno and Xiao could deal 50% more damage (in comparison to his current meta build) with half the burst duration. Most of the time my buff would run out before my burst and that include zhongli shield
Xiao was the character that got me into Genshin. I had played it once before but never got too into it. When he came out I tried pulling for him and didn’t get him. Almost a year later then I finally got him I had everything set up for him. Then the vermillion hereafter set came out and it improved him even further. In my honest opinion Xiao is a prime example of how as Genshin progresses, older characters tend to be left behind in favor of newer better ones. In his case he never had to contend with anyone in his specific niche. Even now he only has one person in the form of Hat Guy but he’s neither better nor worse in general. Faruzan helps him out a great deal but there are far better options for more broken characters. He’s my favorite so I’ve stuck with him since I got and he’s never left my team. I feel as if anyone that still uses him it’s because they like the character regardless of better options. I also have him c1 and I honestly believe that this is enough for him to be just a little more viable. He’s busted at c6 but who isn’t? His runtimes are also extremely inconsistent meaning that even if I did want more constellations I almost never have the resources to spend on him to get them anyway. I love the character and everything about him. I always look at the situation he’s in and always think “It could be worse”. Us Xiao mains are far better off than the unfortunate souls who love Dehya. All in all I’m content with where he is now. He has options to make himself better while not being just completely outright broken.
Xiao was my first limited 5* back in 1.3, and he felt insanely when I first got him. He's fallen off a bit, but Faruzan has been a big buff to him, especially at c6
@@sukuna7583 Yes they both take a lot of field time but that's it, they are completely different things. You can play Barbara instead of Sucrose in that same taser team, and you will only have slightly less damage, because the majority of the damage still comes from the rest of your team (although no electro & hydro swirl so they too will deal less damage). Not the best example but you get me. A main DPS on the other hand deals the majority of the damage in your team, and without him your team will deal no meaningful damage. Sucrose is a driver, Xiao is a main DPS.
The only criticism I have of this video is the complete lack of mention of Heizou. Until Wanderer came out, Xiao wasn't the only main DPS Anemo as Heizou was released in 2.8.
Xiao and Albedo came out around the same time and had mechanics related to plunging. I think Mihoyo was going for something the abandoned half way, because there are many events that have boosts to plunging damage but almost no one uses them.,
I do eventually want to get Xiao (i started playing a year ago) because his playstyle just seems super fun. Its not like i am getting through floor 12 anyways, so who cares which character is more "meta" right now. (I did *used* to be able to do floor 12 but uh.....we know what happened)
The fun thing about Xiao is that his plunging animation used to be shorter at beta versions, allowing him to jump and plunge faster than he usually does. They probably changed that because it would be too broken, but now we have characters like Neuvillette lmao
Thoma's initial shield from his skill has an 8-second cooldown, but he can have 100% uptime thanks to his burst. So it's not impractical to pair him with Xiao like what you're saying.
@@fzhs7030I know. It's really annoying when people don't read character kits and are loud for no reason. Something you should probably correct yourself before coming after others
I don't have Wanderer but considering Thoma's shield refreshes with every normal attack, plus activates Pyro resonance with Bennett, and C6 increases normal attack dmg by 15%, I'd say he's good for Wanderer. Edit: Just thought about how Thoma's burst is 20 cd. So may have difficulties aligning the sturdier shield with the burst, and the less sturdy shield with only the skill.
The amount of very wrong statements that have been said in this video is actually impressive like for example faruzan didn't do much for Xiao did anyone read her kit especially at c6 here is the list 30% res sred 38% anemo dmg her passive and with cons she gives 40% cd and 20% attack with tom set Also you can use yelan with Xiao check youtube videos on that And we have a lot buffs that can stays for 15 seconds that Xiao can use like faruzan or yelan a4 or zhongli shield or or Bennett buff ( Bennett buff stays for 12 sec but the last instance of buff can make it around 14 sec) Also thoma shield stays 15 second at base and 18 with c2 so you have the c2 the whole time
I know we can’t expect you to predict future units, but this video has aged very poorly, with Furina and Xianyun (plus C6 Faruzan) making him very competitive again. I hope HYV will keep buffing him over the years, he’s my favorite character in the game ❤
Bro but Xiao CAN use Xinqui and Yelan There are combos which are primarily used in single target that give him more MV and use normal attacks so mainly Yelan for her passive can be easily used with him
Xiao is still very useful to me. He’s also fun to play. I like his skill & super jump abilities during his burst. He’s one of the first limited banner characters I pulled.
He was my first 5* DPS. Carried me for a long time, but I was so early in the game that he virtually had no good artifacts for a long time. I recently build him and levelled up his talents out of love. 😭😭❤️❤️
My main problem with Xiao is that hes so reliant on his Burst. Outside of it hes just... there. I got Wanderer in the first 10 pull going for Faruzan not even having wanrted him yet he hasnt left the team since. Similar dmg, better utility (the flying is just way to good) and Skill focused with a super low cooldown. Probably my favourite character I ever pulled and that wasnt even planned unlike any other I pulled. In events like Hyakkuin Ikki I love to use Xiao though but other than that I dont think I actively used him since forever.
That's literally my main problem with him too. Nothing like clearing a large group of enemies only to miss one then waste a minute trying to kill it with normals/skill because you don't want to waste your burst for the next wave/floor... It's also the exact reason I like my "unplanned" Wanderer too
Xiao is literally the reason why I started playing Genshin in the first place, but at the time of patch 1.3, I already felt that he was somewhat an inferior choice to other Liyue carries (Ganyu and Hutao). He needed a battery, healer, and preferably a shielder as well. Meanwhile, Ganyu could easily deal so much damage and also had a crazy cyro artifact set that made it much easier to build. And Hutao could abuse vaporizations with Xingqiu.
My point is that while he is a strong carry. It seems like there isn't much room for improvement for him. Building his team feels like covering his many weaknesses and for other carries it feel like you can improve upon their strength. I guess one way that Mihoyo has been trying to do is releasing new artifacts set that could synergize well with Xiao which is nice.
@@Marnige I guess you could. It would just be really rough. I'd rather save myself the pain and use another team. Though I do love using xiao when it's convenient.
@@RePollster ah 3.7... it was a cancer he was useable but definitely not that good because of enemy patterns and their stupid amounts of damage+shields, so I just used Ayaka freeze for first half and Rational for second half
You say these videos are from the perspective of a normal player, yet you rate the character almost purely on their meta relevance, which literally doesn't matter in a game like Genshin, where there's no PvP, and the only endgame content is the Spiral Abyss that can be cleared with *any* character.
Xiao will forever be my favorite character and i am a proud xiao main. My account is dedicated to making him as strong as possible and he forever carries my team♡
@@aqgaming1092how so? your spamming comments for some reason just cus your mad lol I use Hu Tao and stuff more but Xiao literally outdamages every single dps now at this point with Xianyun Faruzan and Furina being only behind neuvii
You keep making these vids about characters I play, and I can't help but feel personally attacked. You should make some videos about characters that people actually don't play, like Gorou, Kujou Sara, or Baizhu.
i will forever return to xiao, i may have a Hu Tao that hits 100k crit but in terms of lore, aesthtic, likeability and general peference xiao will forever be a top tier unit in my opinion, considering hes at least top 10 for most cosplayed character says a lot about his character, i dont play for big numbers, i play what i like. Though everyones opinion differs thats why even the worst characters have mains.
honestly, xiao is a great character, but could’ve been even greater if you look at the cbt version of him. His plunges had no delay and his 3rd talent passive was all focused on him and not towards the party members. I don’t even know why they would put delay on his plunges even though he is a plunged based character??
I feel like you forgot to add one of his biggest problems, he pushes back enemies whenever he plunges meaning you have to chase them or they move apart, this is what makes him the most annoying for me to use. If you're gonna release this kinda video I think it's important you remember and research every single problem cus this is easily one of the most biggest reasons why ppl don't like using him and im shocked it wasnt mentioned at all in the video 😅
Looks at my triple crowned c6 r3 Xiao. I always use him in abyss. He'll be my main until the very end of the game, no matter how many characters i pull
The underlying trend I'm noticing with these videos is that the shift from single-character power to all-team power with emphasis on reactions has really changed people's perspective on the most optimal way to play the game. It's so surreal to look back at what was once effective now being rendered obsolete, and the strange part is that I don't think today's standards are the zenith of this evolution. Imagine how the meta will be in about 3 years from now? What if Abyssal Magic enters the scene with Dainslief? How will that shake things up? The possibilities are so numerous, it's hard to comprehend things yet to come.
It's definitely not a coincidence that of the Hypercarries, Raiden stands above the rest because she doubles as a swift army knife who can fit into other roles.
@@crimsonECH1DNAHer only best role outside of hypercarry is being hyperbloom bot while rational is only slightly than Sucrose national and there's just way better electro for aggravate than Raiden. Her advantage over Itto, Xiao, Wanderer is not as big you think
Even if Xiao isn't in the "meta" and his damage isn't as impressive in comparison to other overpowered units today, I am still looking forward to pulling for him when he gets another rerun. Genshin has such a wide range characters. There are so many potential playstyles, teams, and kits that you can use. In my opinion, this means you always have the option to play who you want and enjoy it! Awesome video😃
the thing about xiao is that he has a really dedicated fan base, people will go to all those lengths to build him and characters around him because they love him as a character
Xiao was the first character that made me really care about farming and doing more damage. You see, I’m bad at deciding who to play, until one day I did a random 10 pull on the Xiao banner and got him. Like a day or two after, I got his weapon on the standard banner after reaching pity there. The closest thing to a main before was Diluc, but I didn’t really try. Xiao was my first main. I think I got him for his first rerun in 2.5 I think. I had started playing the game around 2.0 since Ayaka was the first banner I remember (my account is older but I stopped around the first statue of the seven and then Amber)
I don’t understand it either 😭 xiao is a pretty mid tier character and ppl play him all the time. He’s just not used often in later spiral abyss but in everything else ppl use him all the time
The only thing Xiao is playing is with my heart
Grammatically incorrect sentence - 🤓
Damn, find yourself a mate
@@Greatcelestialkaligo mate? what are you a dog or something
@@Greatcelestialkaligoa MATE?!
@@kitnal4143mate in three moves. Can you see it????
it's interesting how WELL Xiao's playstyle reflects his personality and lore.
Xiao in lore always fights alone (largely due to the fact that he's the last Yaksha) and is reluctant to take help like in the Chasm Quest.
His playstyle requires him to be on field most of the time, his plunging playstyle is still unique currently, he doesn't synergize too well with most supports, sub DPS or even his own element and could function perfectly fine solo.
Both are a little to his detriment but in terms of character design he really is a 10/10
That's the most unexpected "why no one plays" tbh. I know his abyss usage is quite low, but it seems lots of people main him
I'd argue that the problem here is how hyperfocused abyss is.
Xiao is REALLY fun to play, but abyss is too meta centered to bring him to floor 12.
I "main" him cause he was my 1st 5* character ever in the game. I got him alongside Mona in 10 pulls during 1.3. But only last year I was able to give him a good 2pc gladiator + 2pc vv set, which at that time I already had other units but I couldn't leave him benched. It was tough work to get him good artifacts, and not too long after that, a dedicated set was released for him :(. I barely use him in abyss floor 12, and when I do I can't get 3 stars 😂 but I still like playing with him hahahaha
hi i still clear abyss with 36 abyss with xiao until this very day
cuz there are a ton of Xiao simps out there
@@coriakacoron5851 im one of them
The part of that still bothers me is that why does it felt like Hoyo gives Albedo and Xiao C4 that would benefited the others if the placement were replaced
Xiao's makes sense at least. Albedo's is almost useless. During boss fights Albedo's skill can be removed through boss attacks, doesn't even activate on the field for the Oceanid boss stage. His C4 would make more sense that all active characters after using his skill gain 20% plunge and normal attack damage, and an additional 10% while in the Isotoma field. It won't stop me from using Albedo, though 😅
Can i say with the recent abysses c4 Xiao isn't really that bad lately and I'm not joking here
Imagine if they switches their cons
@@nav3346 Akshually 🤓you can place Albedo's flowers on the sides of the platform on the outsides because they have an elevated pillar under the water that he can reach and thus use his E uncontested to hit the spawns of oceanid
@@angelsoflolz I didn't know that! Thank you for giving me another reason to love Albedo. 👍
I feel like the type of hypercarry character will always have a more limited playerbase since they require a lot of investment to keep up with rotation focused teams. We all see that Eula, Itto, Cyno and Xiao are less popular then Shogun, nahida or Yelan because while the former need their team to adjust to them the latter are more flexible don't need a team build for them even if it can be done
This is so true. Hypercarries arent for everyone and they require a lot of min maxing to be viable, but once u get them there they are just as strong. With hypercarries u need 3 dedicated supports, which might not even be possible given ur roster, so many players will be forced into playing Xiao or Cyno with less than ideal teamates and just give up on them cuz they underperform, especially since most of them need 1 or more 5star supports. While in rotation teams u can typically use many replacements and play with different reactions and adapt according to what characters u have.
Agreed i benched my double crowned cyno.. whilst on the other side nahida yelan never leaving my team, be it abyss or open world.
100% agree, personally love hypercarries and have both Xiao and Cyno. I pulled for their weapon and went all the way to pull for Nahida and her weapon for my Cyno. Going to go for Faruzan C6 for Xiao later. And farming the same goddamn artifacts set every day. Definitely a lot of investment, time, mora, resins, almost everything goes for my Xiao. So I think players should only pull for them if they really like the character or they will just be disappointed and bench them
@@AoKajii c6 xiao is fun, never a regret doing so
I agree hypercarry characters needs a lot more investment (including their supports). I myself is an Itto main and his mono geo team is my goal team since I started the game. It took me more than a year to complete my team (c0-r1 Itto, c2 Zhongli+Homa (his cons are accident pull 😬), c6 Gorou (was lucky to get few copies on standard) and Albedo from his last rerun. More than that, I have to spend thousands of resin to get good Husk set but until now the game doesn't want to give me an on-set 5* Crit hat.
So yeah hypercarry playstyle is for those who has a lot of patience, dedication and maybe luck as well.
No-one expected Xiao in a why no one plays series before Dendro
I didn't expect Xiao to get a why no one plays it literally jumpscared me 💀
as a xiao main I will forever use him
edit: holy crap 800 likes? ty lol
Thats what xiao does. He jumps and scares people
As a fellow Xiao main, thank you.
Me too
Same💀
same ToT
While it may be a disservice to the characters individually, I do hope we get more characters like Xiao, Dehya, and Sara, characters that break away from the conventions of their elements to do their own thing. If every Anemo unit is nothing more than a Swirl bot, there's no excitement for new Anemo units. If every Pyro unit wants Xingqui/Yelan, it becomes redundant, and makes not having those 2 even worse. The fact that Hoyo is willing to give characters their own roles and not just limit them to what their element is best at is great for the game long-term.
I get what you're saying, but no unit deserves to have numbers as low as Dehya, it's honestly her only problem and it breaks her character.
That's the literally definition of being edgy just for the sake of it.
We do need cohesive characters just bc they need to be playable in the first time. A "better" approach is having more variety in the ways a character fulfills their element's role.
Electro is full of that type of variety, since many characters enable taser, quicken, hyperbloom, and even overload teams, not to mention pretty much every single one of them can be part of a superconduct.
Truth be told anemo is the one most crippled by the lack of variety but even then the means for a character to do crowd control is different for each, Venti is just the press of a button, Kazuha is held on his E.Skill, Sucrose is even split and if you count Faruzan it's on her charged attacks.
the name of the game is teamwork and combining character compisitions if said character is doing they're own thing they're going to be bad especially if they ain't Geo
well Dehya got the short end of a stick.
Sara is a 4 star so I give her a pass to be "interesting", even if she was just made for Raiden to be a Raiden buffer and her personality is just Raiden stan. Dehya sucks, low numbers and slow burst that can be broken. Xiao is probably in the best position in the three of them.
This video was already untruthfull as a lot of people play him but it managed to age even worse lmfao
Also, you forgot to mention that hype around Xiao got 2 major reasons
1. He was present in CBT
2. He dealt a lot of dmg in CBT, more than Ayaka, as testers claimed.
The fast plunge attacks he did during the CBT also impressed people a bit if I remember
Maybe it's best to spell it out instead of saying "CBT".
@@SeveredWorldLoreClosed Beta Test
@@douglanmar To put it simply, people use acronyms for so much these days. It's possible to go down the wrong rabbit hole as some would say.
CBT... Excuse me, what?
I expect an apology video. With a ukulele.
🚂 The toxic gossip tra-
8:32 this is completely untrue for yelan, you CAN use her and xiao by hitting nomal attack then immediately cancelling it with a plunge attack. it works like a charm
I tired it and I kinda hated it cuz I have skill issue and I’m a mobile player but also it would be better to use that yelan slot with someone else
@@2triedforthis830 agreed that other units are better instead of yelan taking up the slot but she still is a viable choice if someone wants to use her
13:19 So learning Xiao's jump animation cancelling is detrimental to his viability for casual players. But for the Hutao video you didn't really emphasize on needing to learn charged attack animation cancelling to use her efficiently.
He said that hu tao does have animation canceling but he isnt in the right place to discuss bc he got her c1
Because every hu tao player are automatically got c1 by defaults/s
Can i say throwing a normal attack between plunges is a lot easier than doing the right damage rotation for international or Raiden hyper or making sure you have electro on the enemy when you use nahida e to do a vv rotation with cyno/keqinq/yea/Raiden
@spidebot3045 i have c0 hu tao and dragonsbane with only xingqiu, she is the most fun i have when fighting boss and bigger enemies, its really satisfying if you ask me
@spidebot3045 I had C0 Hu tao for the longest time, she was the reason I got into genshin, and my first limited 5 star, always carried me in the abyss and didn't need her C1, I only got C1 and SOH because I'm a Hu tao main and my girl deserves it.
Xiao is kinda like Ganyu where if you use them they are built really well and are probably your most consistent dps but won't reach the peaks of more team oriented units
except ganyu is still incredibly relevent and is still capable of peaking with some stupidly high damage, xiao is not
I think Ganyu is much more sustainable simply because of her element. Although cryo doesn’t interact with dendro she’s very compatible with some of the best supports; Bennet and Xiangling. Or if you’re having a hard time getting even CRIT stats she has the option to do a freeze team making her easier to build.
However, Ganyu has whole 3,5 different playstiles (melt SUP, melt DPS, freeze+monocryo DPS), while Xiao is restricted to practically one
Nah, thats not true, ganyu Can Benefit from her element by either freeze or Massive damage increase from melt.
Xiao Has neither of that...
@@substitutedoll5224Ganyu's current best team requires both Nahida and Bennett in the same team which is burn melt but you're wasting two of the best support units who have better teams while being separated. While her standard melt comp with Bennett, Xiangling and Zhongli is on par with Xiao's comps.
I remember getting Xiao as my first 5-star DPS. He and Chongyun carried me so hard through midgame. I've been farming so much and I have a great Xiao now. I don't like how Mihoyo did him so dirty (even though I like him as an Anemo unit), but he'll always be one of my favorite characters.
He still carries me till this day 😔
Xiao is still currently my strongest character 😭
Chongyun the goat, just wished there was ever a point to use him
@@c0mplex_Ale revmelt
Xianyun to the rescue~ she will xiao make meta again
Issue is, she turns everyone into xiao aswell
This video aged like milk. 💀
Cope 💀
Still not many people play with him
@@aqgaming1092 His team was the most used this patch in CN IIRC.
Also, he was quite popular for speedrunning since Faruzan came out, Xianyun just added even more fuel to the fire.
This video did not age that well
"Faruzan didn't do that much to increase Xiao" wow what a statement. Couldn't be more wrong.
this aged like spoiled rotten milk
My guy just had to do it after the Zyox statment
lmaoo true
It’s kinda funny cause Zy0x screenshotted his community post and said his tweet was a dare 😭
For some reason, I remember Xiao's energy being a huge issue. Like, people were saying he was unplayable without another anemo unit
his energy isn't as bad as it used to be simply due to time and getting better artifacts and fav weapons on supports.
and most people run anemo supports like faruzan or kazuha for anemo shred and vv shred + battery.
Tbf he does run into energy issues with his high cost burst, but if you're using him you're already gonna be investing in batteries and supports that help those issues regardless
I do as well.
Xiao builds with crit weapons recommend both ER ~120-130 % (depends a bit) and an anemo battery that funnels its particles to Xiao (usually Sucrose)
The part where Vars states that Xiao can self-sustain his burst as solo char really sounded like bs to me
I literally play xiao with 116% er 💀 But I always manage to get his burst up in time bcs I use double geo (albedo+Zhongli) + Benny with him. Zhongli has favonius lance. Zhongli's pillar and albedo's skill constantly hitting enemies generates so many energy particles while xiao is out there doing his thing. It's a SUPER powerful team and quite sustainable too!
it still is if you dont have c6 faruzan
I stopped using him mainly because Sumeru enemies have been notorious for not sticking together, reducing the effectiveness of his plunging attacks without another Anemo to group them. His plunging attacks also pushed enemies away, which meant after 2 attacks, enemies would be outside the plunge range and you'd miss. If I somehow manage to get C6 Faruzan, I might try him again.
Exactly! I'm astounded this wasn't included in the video for me this is his biggest issue in terms of gameplay
Can confirm, C6 faruzan took him from being fantastic only for enemies you can't really move like bosses and ruin enemies to being fantastic for most enemies
And now the most used team in abyss is a Xiao team😂
I feel like Collei definitely needs to be the first dendro character in this series because of her unfortunate release by dendro traveler power crept her on her release 😕
Collei is the #2 dendro unit in Nilou Bloom teams.
Collei isn’t bad at all, she’s a great F2P option for all dendro related reaction teams. Besides, she’s a free character that’s really only meant to be serviceable in solving Sumeru puzzles and introducing dendro; not being as good as other gacha characters is a given.
@@terrylap6132 You say this, but the free Abyss character directly before her is *Xiangling.*
It's not about good or bad, its more about popularity and usage
@@hedgeyes6411Xiangling was the winner of the people choice though, the 1.0 beta players voted for her to be free not hoyo.
Xiao was my first 5 star and he’s the reason I got hooked into Genshin Impact. I wish there was something to amplify plunging attacks. As I’ve tried to build around him I’ve noticed these problems so it’s very frustrating to try to consistently have support to his kit.
albedo + cons
:^)
dont worry about it he is good enough
I think a lot of the older hypercarry focused dps character like Xiao and Eula would be more popular if grinding for good crit ratio artifacts wasn't such a massive chore. A lot of the newer units are still very good with artifacts main stat focusing one thing like HP or EM which makes them a lot more accessible to players.
Xiao main here and you pretty much summed it all up. It's like every time mihoyo gives him an indirect buff, they also hamstring him somehow. You didn't mention that his bis artifact set is in a wildly inefficient domain, with the only other character really benefitting from farming that domain being Ayato (and Ayato can get sets almost as good in much more efficient domains). We finally get a dedicated artifact set for him... and it feels like it costs twice as much resin to farm.
I love using him, I love his pogo-style attacks, and I have an entire team built around him, but I would never expect the average player to invest the high amount of time, resin, etc. in him to make him do okay damage compared to reaction teams. Xiao mains do it out of love for the character, not because he's going to keep up with the Nahidas, Alhaithams, Hu Taos, and Ayakas.
Yea, and I would like to add that the other artifact, Echoes, is not good for ayato if u have bad ping as for some reason that artifact relies heavily if u have good ping or not thus not making it, in average, not that much different from 4pc gladiator for Ayato.
Fr! I don’t care if hes not Meta or will ever be meta I will still play him cuz I love this silly yaksha
Doesn’t matter if he doesn’t keep up with the characters you mentioned only one of them is even close to as cool as him
As a comrade Xiao main since his first rerun (and a wannabe main since his first banner), I completely understand your concern. Thankfully, now his dedicated set has been added to the artifact strongbox, allowing us to farm for more efficient artifact domains while being able to use our bad pieces to convert them into his Vermillion set. Of course it isn’t perfect nor fast, but as any true Xiao main, being dedicated to him through the long run is an act of love we desire to do.
I recently finished my first decent Hereafter set on him through the artifact strong box, I was truly happy ( about 82% CR over 225%CD, I say decent because I’m running Homa on low HP instead of PJWS). As a low spender (bought battle pass back in the days to get death match for him since I had nothing else better and not enough for BlackCliff), obtaining Faruzan’s C6 through the event was such a gift ! I look forward to upgrade him even more by getting a crit DMG circlet on set and returning to his stunning PJWS.
Also DMG wise, I believe that he can be competitive, but of course, only for those who are willing to put investment into him. The team I usually played him with was (including him) : Sucrose with TTDS and Noblesse, Jean as healer, and Zhongli with Tenacity. His DMG output for one plunge was a maximum of 53K (that was with 2pcs Glad and 2pcs VV for about 70%CR over 199%CD).
But now, since getting Homa and his new set like not even 3 weeks ago, I changed his team as the following (including him) :
1. Sucrose with TTDS and Noblesse, Faruzan (C6)with Tenacity and Zhongli with Tenacity, enhancing his maximum plunge DMG to 97k (a whopping 44K DMG upgrade, no energy issues while Xiao runs 120%ER).
2.Faruzan (C6) with tenacity, benett with Noblesse and the F2P sumeru craft able sword (565 base attack with ER% as substat) and Zhongli with Tenacity, enhancing his maximum plunge DMG to 107k (or double his initial DMG which was already decent).
I truly love him, he is my reason to play, I am a dedicated Xiao main, and I encourage anyone who enjoys him as much to keep on grinding.
If you are interested, I have discovered a page on which the conception of Xiao is explained, as a Xiao lover, I absolutely adored reading it. Here’s the link : genshin.hoyoverse.com/m/en/news/detail/103849
“ *The limit to one’s power is self-destruction. Answer me. Why do you persist?* ” - Xiao, Feelings about ascension: Climax.
2VV, 2 glad still works
This aged so badly lmfao
Now wit xianyun out, xiaos premium team is actually nuts
dont forget furina!!
9:06 Thomas's shield lasts only 8 seconds, sure, but the ability that actually boosts plunging atk dmg is his C6, that increases it by 15% every time you obtain or REFRESH a shield for 6 seconds, and every time you refresh a shield you also refresh its duration and the passive's. You can refresh a shield every time you trigger fiery collapse (Thoma's ult), which lasts 15 seconds. That means Thoma's C6 boost can last up to 21 seconds and not 8 as you say. And even if just having the shield was enough to trigger the boost, as most people would assume from this clip, that would only bring its duration up to 23 seconds, 8 seconds after the ult's duration expires
in a similar vein I remember everyone loving and being hyped over heizou but I almost never see anyone play him, his abyss pick rate backs that up, it's like people immediately forgot about him once sumeru and dendro released, so I'd love to see a 'why no one plays heizou'
He is a 4 star DPS , which mean he would never have enough stat to compete with any 5 star DPS (the only exception to this is the OG National trio), kinda in the same vein as Yanfei. And aside from his damage, he provides very little utilities, especially in comparison with Sucrose.
@@cedrusnguyen5188Yep. 4 stars dps characters are doomed from the get go: Yanfei, Ningguang, Heizou, Freminet (who is an even more niche dps)...
I triple crowned all the anemo males, 15 crowned Aether. I'm a 6REEZE main
- "yelan doesn't work with xiao" (she does)
- Lack of buffers: Bennett, faruzan literally got released (he mentioned faruzan exactly once, COMPLETELY FORGETTING THE ANEMO RES SHRED)
- Thoma shield doesn't cover xiao because it lasts 8 seconds. This part is just wrong.
- "Most buffs can only last 12s": faruzan c2, yelan a4, zhongli shield, did i mention faruzan.
- Not sure what the wanderer segment was about... that guy was just flying Xiao that gets knocked down by a feather.
- Yoimiya was not servicable, cyno is nearly the same as yoimiya.
Is this video just ragebait ?
I don’t think this guy plays the same game as we do
Yelan does _not_ work with Xiao unless you're exclusively talking about her A4. You'd be wasting her entire burst's damage output solely for the scaling DMG% buff unless you awkwardly space your plunges by throwing in a normal attack between, which is arguably a DPS loss. It's much smarter to use a different character and save Yelan for the other team. Thoma has the same problem: if you aren't spamming normal attacks, you can't stack up his shield to a worthwhile shield strength.
@@SuperBeanSquad There's this thing called cancelling the end of Xiao's plunge attack animation by weaving in normal attacks, allowing him to proc the condition of doing normal attacks while also doing a bit of damage in between plunges.
You actually can prock Xingqiu & Yelan by getting in the habit of nor atk, jump, plung, nor akt. It does take a bit of practice but I find it easier than Hu Tao c0 jump cancel. Also u still don't prock it as much as Hu Tao either tho, so its not really reccommended to use them but they're not useless for him either (also Xingiqu's healing isn't enough for Xiao)
Looks like we're running out characters to make 'why no one plays ' about
Gotta get the views somehow. And since xiao is still somewhat popular this is rather good ragebait
My how times have changed.
"Why Everyone Plays Xiao" when?
Xiao always has a place in my heart. He is the strongest DPS unit in both of my accounts by pure dmg without reactions. I know he isn’t the best DPS, and I have other units that are stronger than him, but I love using him. I will never regret him ❤️✨
When the raiden boss makes her four clones you can which one is the real one by looking at their attacks. The real one throws out a cross.
(Im aware the gameplay might be your editor's)
Thanks bro ✊️
@@Grief111 np man
Well I be damned. Thanks very much.
A lot of people have said this already, but I feel like we need more supports for units like Itto, Eula, Xiao, Cyno, etc. Hypercarries are fun because it makes a character you like the centerpiece of the team, and you get to see them in field a ton.
It does make me kinda sad that most people mainly use meta units, and don’t give other subpar units the light of day. Units like Chongyun, Cyno, Xiao, Kaeya, and Heizou are just a few examples. Plus, they can usually be more interesting to playlist as you need to get creative. Let me know if you have any “bad” characters you like playing!
-a Cyno enjoyer
I main both Cyno and Xiao! I actually let my rational and Ayaka teams sit down on most 3.x abyss runs to 36* it with polearm boy impact. It was in fact pretty doable with their best teams and I had much more fun that way... until the consecrated zoo and permafreeze abyssional team showed up and Xiao's now back to the bench for floor 12 for obvious reasons
Cyno isn't really a hypercarry in genshin terms imo, his long on-field time doesn't make him a hypercarry. He optimally is paired with sub-dps and healing based units, not atk or damage buffers, and he has the ability to improve as long as new electro and dendro supports keep getting released. His damage is unfortunate though, he should've been stronger than Keqing being a very hyped character
@@fzhs7030 apparently doing like 20 to 30k melts per second on a burst that's always up with like 90k E melt crits is weak, or 100k plunges in aoe on Anemo that shreds abyss mage shields...damn, if that's weak then O.O
@@Dhooparty
But he *is* stronger than Keqing, i dont what know what you’re smoking. His most optimal team is one where Nahida buffs him, Baizhu shields and provides heals and interruption resistance, and Xingqiu/Yelan give him either more interruption resistance or Yelan with her ramping up dmg bonus. Quickbloom allows him to trigger hyperbloom while also weaving in aggravate for optimal dmg output which makes him deal more dmg than an normal aggravate Keqing. His massive base em as well as reach allows him to do a lot of dmg. For a hypercarry dps, the general rule of thumb is that he does more than 70% of the dmg which he does by triggering the hyperblooms and also aggravating.
@@seraphywang4638 “He is stronger than Keqing” In Quickbloom? Sure. Outside of that? Meh. Quickbloom is a broken comp, by that logic, even Shinobu can be stronger than Keqing because of how well she performs in Hyperbloom. Cyno is designed for Aggravate, and he yet he’s underwhelming in it compared to other dps options. With investment, he outscales Keqing significantly because her weapon is generalistic and her cons suck, whereas his cons are slightly better and his weapon gives him a more targeted buff. But saying “Oh use three other broken characters and play him in gamebreaking comp, he’s good” is dumb. Raiden and Shinobu can easily perform significantly better than him in Hyperbloom related comps with those same characters. He’s the least optimal option, he’s fine, but he was clearly intended to be an aggravate carry.
a little bit nitpicky but
13:21 weird how you mentioned plunge techs when its literally just space bar-left click spam (plunge spam) or space bar-left click-hold left click (plunge-CA). how is that difficult? c0 hutao cancels are much more complicated, but that didnt get mentioned in the WEOP hutao. xiao only needs the cancels if youre playing him optimally with yelan, and that in itself is not a popular team so who cares
9:16 thoma shield only lasts 8s???? on what rotation would you not use his burst? c0 already has 100% uptime, c1 makes it even better. if you really want to use him in xiao teams you most definitely want to do plunge-ca to refresh shield
As a Xiao main, the fact this video exists makes me cry a little
But I definitely understand why it does
I love him and use him constantly, but I honestly rarely use his burst in overworld exploration
Yeah, I can hit 100k+ with c6 faru and bennett, and it's just overkill for overworld enemies. I usually run xiao/faru/bennett/wanderer for overworld so I can take advantage of wanderer's lack of burst reliance to deal with smaller enemies
I swear Hoyo must've watched this video.
With Xianyun, Furina and Faruzan every single one of Xiao's gimmicks (plunging, health loss, anemo dps) has a dedicated support. Almost as if they were designed for him.
Ironically they definitely were most likely
Tbh xiao doesn’t deserve to be here , your milking why no one play series. Sometimes you gotta learn when to stop
He showed the stats tho, his play rate is very low
Yeah you’re crying bc your bias is getting the best of you. Xiao’s usage rate when this video came was extremely low. Go cry somewhere else.
Vars II: No one plays Xiao.
Zy0x: LAMENT!
If only there was a polearm that shorteneded you burst but makes the damage higher.
nah man don't make Xiao even shorter
That would be too broken or useless (depending on the numbers). Not only because of Xiao, but because of other Polearm users as well (Xiangling, Raiden, Cyno, Rev.Melt Rosaria, etc:)
Or conversely: something that increases the duration of off-field Skill/Burst effects with a base duration below 20s -- at the cost of personal damage, inability to generate elemental particles with Skill or a more expensive Burst.
Or artifact, I would love if Cyno and Xiao could deal 50% more damage (in comparison to his current meta build) with half the burst duration. Most of the time my buff would run out before my burst and that include zhongli shield
Or an artifact set that when using 4p lowered ur skill cooldown in half
Xiao was the character that got me into Genshin. I had played it once before but never got too into it. When he came out I tried pulling for him and didn’t get him. Almost a year later then I finally got him I had everything set up for him. Then the vermillion hereafter set came out and it improved him even further.
In my honest opinion Xiao is a prime example of how as Genshin progresses, older characters tend to be left behind in favor of newer better ones. In his case he never had to contend with anyone in his specific niche. Even now he only has one person in the form of Hat Guy but he’s neither better nor worse in general. Faruzan helps him out a great deal but there are far better options for more broken characters. He’s my favorite so I’ve stuck with him since I got and he’s never left my team. I feel as if anyone that still uses him it’s because they like the character regardless of better options.
I also have him c1 and I honestly believe that this is enough for him to be just a little more viable. He’s busted at c6 but who isn’t? His runtimes are also extremely inconsistent meaning that even if I did want more constellations I almost never have the resources to spend on him to get them anyway.
I love the character and everything about him. I always look at the situation he’s in and always think “It could be worse”. Us Xiao mains are far better off than the unfortunate souls who love Dehya.
All in all I’m content with where he is now. He has options to make himself better while not being just completely outright broken.
Xiao was my first limited 5* back in 1.3, and he felt insanely when I first got him. He's fallen off a bit, but Faruzan has been a big buff to him, especially at c6
11:16 Sucrose is not a main DPS in her taser team, she is a driver.
The thing is, with her as a driver and enabling swirls every attack makes her output a decent amount of damage.
@@AristineSilvanus She definitely does good damage with her swirls, but she is still a driver in that team.
driver and main dps r kinda the same thing bc they need lots of field time
@@sukuna7583 Yes they both take a lot of field time but that's it, they are completely different things.
You can play Barbara instead of Sucrose in that same taser team, and you will only have slightly less damage, because the majority of the damage still comes from the rest of your team (although no electro & hydro swirl so they too will deal less damage). Not the best example but you get me.
A main DPS on the other hand deals the majority of the damage in your team, and without him your team will deal no meaningful damage.
Sucrose is a driver, Xiao is a main DPS.
Yep Beidou shpuld be the off field main dps for that team
The only criticism I have of this video is the complete lack of mention of Heizou. Until Wanderer came out, Xiao wasn't the only main DPS Anemo as Heizou was released in 2.8.
True, but hyper Heizou sucks, his best role is as a driver so yeah , no wonder people forget about him being a carry 😂😂
@@felipemendes5336skill issue
Heizou is more like a driver who can add some dmg from himself once every 10s than actual hypercarry
@@Jev_the_fluorescent_shrimp Math doesn't care about skill
@@felipemendes5336 well you have skill issue in math, sooo
At this point he's just doing random people now
Xiao and Albedo came out around the same time and had mechanics related to plunging. I think Mihoyo was going for something the abandoned half way, because there are many events that have boosts to plunging damage but almost no one uses them.,
I do eventually want to get Xiao (i started playing a year ago) because his playstyle just seems super fun. Its not like i am getting through floor 12 anyways, so who cares which character is more "meta" right now.
(I did *used* to be able to do floor 12 but uh.....we know what happened)
the only character i didnt want appearing in a "why no one play" video
The fun thing about Xiao is that his plunging animation used to be shorter at beta versions, allowing him to jump and plunge faster than he usually does. They probably changed that because it would be too broken, but now we have characters like Neuvillette lmao
The one bad thing about Xiao is he's a character that needs a lot of investment to be usable all the time in the abyss to 36 stars.
and his height
Thoma's initial shield from his skill has an 8-second cooldown, but he can have 100% uptime thanks to his burst. So it's not impractical to pair him with Xiao like what you're saying.
yes but you need to swap from Xiao and lost his ult
@@feilkate5892you dont know how thoma works do you
@@fzhs7030I know. It's really annoying when people don't read character kits and are loud for no reason. Something you should probably correct yourself before coming after others
doesn't thoma work better for wanderer since he needs normal attacks for his shield to work properly.
I don't have Wanderer but considering Thoma's shield refreshes with every normal attack, plus activates Pyro resonance with Bennett, and C6 increases normal attack dmg by 15%, I'd say he's good for Wanderer.
Edit: Just thought about how Thoma's burst is 20 cd. So may have difficulties aligning the sturdier shield with the burst, and the less sturdy shield with only the skill.
The amount of very wrong statements that have been said in this video is actually impressive like for example faruzan didn't do much for Xiao did anyone read her kit especially at c6 here is the list 30% res sred 38% anemo dmg her passive and with cons she gives 40% cd and 20% attack with tom set
Also you can use yelan with Xiao check youtube videos on that
And we have a lot buffs that can stays for 15 seconds that Xiao can use like faruzan or yelan a4 or zhongli shield or or Bennett buff ( Bennett buff stays for 12 sec but the last instance of buff can make it around 14 sec)
Also thoma shield stays 15 second at base and 18 with c2 so you have the c2 the whole time
I know we can’t expect you to predict future units, but this video has aged very poorly, with Furina and Xianyun (plus C6 Faruzan) making him very competitive again. I hope HYV will keep buffing him over the years, he’s my favorite character in the game ❤
Bro but Xiao CAN use Xinqui and Yelan
There are combos which are primarily used in single target that give him more MV and use normal attacks so mainly Yelan for her passive can be easily used with him
Xiao is still very useful to me. He’s also fun to play. I like his skill & super jump abilities during his burst. He’s one of the first limited banner characters I pulled.
He was my first 5* DPS. Carried me for a long time, but I was so early in the game that he virtually had no good artifacts for a long time. I recently build him and levelled up his talents out of love. 😭😭❤️❤️
My main problem with Xiao is that hes so reliant on his Burst. Outside of it hes just... there.
I got Wanderer in the first 10 pull going for Faruzan not even having wanrted him yet he hasnt left the team since. Similar dmg, better utility (the flying is just way to good) and Skill focused with a super low cooldown. Probably my favourite character I ever pulled and that wasnt even planned unlike any other I pulled.
In events like Hyakkuin Ikki I love to use Xiao though but other than that I dont think I actively used him since forever.
That's literally my main problem with him too. Nothing like clearing a large group of enemies only to miss one then waste a minute trying to kill it with normals/skill because you don't want to waste your burst for the next wave/floor... It's also the exact reason I like my "unplanned" Wanderer too
this video aged like milk embarassing xiao is literally back
Hahaha still no one plays him 😂
They just took him out for this patch and soon will be benching him again. Don't worry
@@aqgaming1092 lil bro got mad becuase their main has less usage rate than Xiao and came here to spam replies lmao
@@aqgaming1092aww lil bro got offended because no one actually play his main so he keeps spamming comments
Xiao is literally the reason why I started playing Genshin in the first place, but at the time of patch 1.3, I already felt that he was somewhat an inferior choice to other Liyue carries (Ganyu and Hutao). He needed a battery, healer, and preferably a shielder as well. Meanwhile, Ganyu could easily deal so much damage and also had a crazy cyro artifact set that made it much easier to build. And Hutao could abuse vaporizations with Xingqiu.
My point is that while he is a strong carry. It seems like there isn't much room for improvement for him. Building his team feels like covering his many weaknesses and for other carries it feel like you can improve upon their strength. I guess one way that Mihoyo has been trying to do is releasing new artifacts set that could synergize well with Xiao which is nice.
4:50 well other than slimes Andrius is immune to Anemo damage at the time as well.
a lot of people: xiao is usless is abyss
me destroying abyss: 🤑
I still use xiao for floor 9-11, but 12 has been forcing me to use other characters most of the time
You can absolutely use xiao in most of the abyss. Xiao for this chamber 12-1 2nd half is also viable.
@@Marnige I guess you could. It would just be really rough. I'd rather save myself the pain and use another team. Though I do love using xiao when it's convenient.
Floor 12 is pretty easy with Xiao thought what?
@@lastorderx20001 for this abyss yes. For last abyss no
@@RePollster ah 3.7... it was a cancer he was useable but definitely not that good because of enemy patterns and their stupid amounts of damage+shields, so I just used Ayaka freeze for first half and Rational for second half
You say these videos are from the perspective of a normal player, yet you rate the character almost purely on their meta relevance, which literally doesn't matter in a game like Genshin, where there's no PvP, and the only endgame content is the Spiral Abyss that can be cleared with *any* character.
It doesn't matter on a technical level, but there are many people who do still actively care about the meta.
"Faruzan didn't do that much to increase Xiao" - What kinda of weed are you smoking, man? My Xiao went from 72k to 122k per plunge!
Tomorrow I'm going to Smurf spiral Abyss with him
He always carried my ass there
Xiao will forever be my favorite character and i am a proud xiao main.
My account is dedicated to making him as strong as possible and he forever carries my team♡
This need to be updated 😅
Valid points. In the mean time now Xianyun has been released, finally a plunging attack buff for our boy.
He's still bad tho 😂
@@aqgaming1092how so? your spamming comments for some reason just cus your mad lol I use Hu Tao and stuff more but Xiao literally outdamages every single dps now at this point with Xianyun Faruzan and Furina being only behind neuvii
@@aqgaming1092ffxx is literally one of the best teams in the game fym
Xiao does make good use of Yelan, you can do a half auto in between plunges and it will trigger Yelan arrows while also allowing him to plunge faster.
You keep making these vids about characters I play, and I can't help but feel personally attacked. You should make some videos about characters that people actually don't play, like Gorou, Kujou Sara, or Baizhu.
i will forever return to xiao, i may have a Hu Tao that hits 100k crit but in terms of lore, aesthtic, likeability and general peference xiao will forever be a top tier unit in my opinion, considering hes at least top 10 for most cosplayed character says a lot about his character, i dont play for big numbers, i play what i like. Though everyones opinion differs thats why even the worst characters have mains.
I play Xiao, Qiqi, Albedo and Zhognli comp. Really having fun with it.
This aged like milk in my old socks, not good at all
I can smell Zy0xxx in the distance
honestly, xiao is a great character, but could’ve been even greater if you look at the cbt version of him. His plunges had no delay and his 3rd talent passive was all focused on him and not towards the party members. I don’t even know why they would put delay on his plunges even though he is a plunged based character??
Precisely because the were so fast and strong. In the cbt xiao was outdamaging EVERYONE else. He was unbelievably strong, so the nerfed him.
Beta C0 xiao was stronger than current C6 xiao
Man.. bring back xiao’s fast plunges fr
4:45 "Back then, no enemies were immune to Anemo damage" *cries in Lupus Boreas*
I feel like you forgot to add one of his biggest problems, he pushes back enemies whenever he plunges meaning you have to chase them or they move apart, this is what makes him the most annoying for me to use.
If you're gonna release this kinda video I think it's important you remember and research every single problem cus this is easily one of the most biggest reasons why ppl don't like using him and im shocked it wasnt mentioned at all in the video 😅
Looks at my triple crowned c6 r3 Xiao. I always use him in abyss. He'll be my main until the very end of the game, no matter how many characters i pull
NO ONE plays Xiao? Oh ok, I guess I just don't exist then 💀
As a xiao main that hurts my heart so much
The underlying trend I'm noticing with these videos is that the shift from single-character power to all-team power with emphasis on reactions has really changed people's perspective on the most optimal way to play the game. It's so surreal to look back at what was once effective now being rendered obsolete, and the strange part is that I don't think today's standards are the zenith of this evolution. Imagine how the meta will be in about 3 years from now? What if Abyssal Magic enters the scene with Dainslief? How will that shake things up? The possibilities are so numerous, it's hard to comprehend things yet to come.
It's definitely not a coincidence that of the Hypercarries, Raiden stands above the rest because she doubles as a swift army knife who can fit into other roles.
@@crimsonECH1DNAHer only best role outside of hypercarry is being hyperbloom bot while rational is only slightly than Sucrose national and there's just way better electro for aggravate than Raiden. Her advantage over Itto, Xiao, Wanderer is not as big you think
as soon as i get him i main him
"Zy0x please don't crucify me. " lmao
Make a video about Why No one plays Itto
As a xiao main i'm shocked to see you creating a why no one plays video about him. I still love him and main him tho.
Even if Xiao isn't in the "meta" and his damage isn't as impressive in comparison to other overpowered units today, I am still looking forward to pulling for him when he gets another rerun. Genshin has such a wide range characters. There are so many potential playstyles, teams, and kits that you can use. In my opinion, this means you always have the option to play who you want and enjoy it! Awesome video😃
the thing about xiao is that he has a really dedicated fan base, people will go to all those lengths to build him and characters around him because they love him as a character
Video : Why No one plays Xiao
Zy0x : Xiao burts activates "DISAPPEAR"
Description: Aftermath of the situation
LAMENT
LMAO I did not expect you to actually post this, I thought it was a joke when you posted the picture because of Zyox tweet 😂
Xiao was the first character that made me really care about farming and doing more damage.
You see, I’m bad at deciding who to play, until one day I did a random 10 pull on the Xiao banner and got him. Like a day or two after, I got his weapon on the standard banner after reaching pity there.
The closest thing to a main before was Diluc, but I didn’t really try. Xiao was my first main. I think I got him for his first rerun in 2.5 I think. I had started playing the game around 2.0 since Ayaka was the first banner I remember (my account is older but I stopped around the first statue of the seven and then Amber)
Xiao is the tallest, strongest guy around
Because the camera following him up and down gives me motion sickness.
Actually the only reasonable take as to why people dont play him. Thank you
NO I DIDN'T EXPECT AN XIAO VID OF THIS 😭
I don’t understand it either 😭 xiao is a pretty mid tier character and ppl play him all the time. He’s just not used often in later spiral abyss but in everything else ppl use him all the time
@@applepi2745 xiao is my fave character so this vid hurts me😔
I don't regret getting him just because of his looks, but since I got Wanderer, he's so much easier to play + amazing for exploration 🥰
someone needs to show zyox this video
11:21
What am I LISTENING TO 💀
“Faruzan didn’t do much for Xiao” it’s time to leave earth