The Wrath of Khan (1982) "Introducing Khan Noonien Singh"
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Director: Nicholas Meyer
Release Date: 4 June 1982
With the assistance of the Enterprise crew, Admiral Kirk must stop an old nemesis, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Director: Nicholas Meyer
Release Date: 4 June 1982
With the assistance of the Enterprise crew, Admiral Kirk must stop an old nemesis, Khan Noonien Singh, from using the life-generating Genesis Device as the ultimate weapon. , from using the life-generating Genesis Device as the ultimate weapon.
There was nobody on Earth that could play the role of Khan except Ricardo. An awesome talent. Rest in Peace my friend
Who casted him.was a genius.
He was really humble. He joked something like this-
"actors get phases in their careers
1. 'Who is this bum'
2. 'Hey remember that bum?'
3 'What was that bum's name?'
4. 'Get me that bum Ricardo Montalban'
5. 'Get me Ricardo Montalban"
6 'Get me Ricardo!'
7 'Get me someone like Ricardo Montalban'
8. 'Isn't he dead?' "
Checkoff was in the episode space seed......Kahn would not know him....
He skated the line between Awesome and Hammy so god damm well. He will always be the best villain in Star Trek (Q is up there though)
@@mindcrome Lol, I think the line between Awesome and Hammy was crossed - the fact we're still talking about it in hushed tones of admiration, shows it was Awesome! lol (Yeah, there was ham there too!)
I love how he can bearly contain his rage at the revelation that Kirk has been promoted to Admiral since their last meeting
I question Khans superior intellect as if he thought Kirk would never be promoted.
The utter contempt in his voice when he says “Admiral”. That one delivery after Terrell calls Kirk Admiral. And Khan repeats it to himself. He says SO much in that moment, it’s like “I got buried alive and this mother fucker got promoted?!”
This film is the reason why I can pronounce “admiral” with a flawless Mexican accent.
Just the different emotions at play when he was uttering admiral... disbelief, rage, relevation. Phenomenal acting
@John Rife not every captain gets promoted to admiral. Starfleet chose to make Kirk one of its senior most leaders. That's got to piss off Khan even more.
Its moments like this that always elevates Star Trek above Star Wars IMO.
Yup
😅😅 no
This is probably one of the most epic reveals of a character of all of movie history. Just epic. It was pure bliss watching him sink his acting skills into this role. He WAS Khan.
The editing was great! But it's the MUSIC that I feel in the pit of my stomach when Khan reveals his face...epic.
its not that epic
That is the absolute truth he completely owned this role
Wrath still holds up well in 2023
@@joshuablanchette878far better than the JJ version. 🤮
I love how the director blocked the scene to allow Montalban to do his thing. He slowly takes off his mask, building the tension, letting us know this man is important. Instead of it being a backstory info dump, it's elevated by an enormous personality and the sense of imminent danger. Khan does not talk like anyone else. He has dreams, a romantic vision of his life and the world he should be in. Khan is not just a man. He's a legend. A king. And he's really, really pissed.
But it makes sense because he practically talks from a different century
Beautifully explained. 👍
KHAAAAAAAN!!!!
They give him all the space and he’s the only one who moves. It shows he’s in control. They handle exposition here really well. Everyone in the scene talking knows things the others don’t, everyone lacks the full story but it’s put together for the audience here as the characters reveal their pieces to each other. Incredibly natural to watch. Ricardo is fantastic in this whole film. He is Napoleon and he is Ahab.
it was no surprise, given the title of the movie and all the trailers available.
That cold, malevolent look Khan gave them on 30 seconds when he unmasks is one of the most spine tingling looks I've ever seen.
Legend has it that your pathetic spine is tingling to this day.
This is a true masterwork of acting by Ricardo Montalban. He played Khan PERFECTLY as a man who is seething underneath his skin but keeps himself composed, soft spoken, and direct until he can no longer contain his rage. And even that rage dissipates as quickly as it arises. Within mere moments he is back to being in control of himself and everyone in the room. And that is when he is the most dangerous.
“You are in a position to demand nothing sir. I on the other hand am in a position to grant nothing.” Great line. They are now Khan’s property.
Khan is the best villain of Star Trek. And how i loved him.
Yes indeed
Khan rules.
From enterprise series - Com. Dolam and Vosk Are f.....bad ass cats!!!.....but Khan Is by far on top!!!
Best villain all around
@@tiediegymnasts920 exactly ma Man!!!
Love Khan’s reaction to learning Kirk is admiral, with each “Admiral” conveying a different feeling. Shock, followed by anger, followed by realization of how Kirk has thrived over the past 15 years while Khan has suffered and languished.
That likely just added to his resentment of Kirk. Knowing Kirk had been rewarded handsomely whilst Kahn had been left to rot on a world made barren by Ceti Alpha 6's destruction.
@@IAmPegasus And don't forget the death of his beloved wife, Marla McGivers. This rage was more in pain and madness as ever before in his life.
That is exactly it, and Montalban nailed it perfectly.
Admiral…admiral……..admiral
I always felt this was a fascinatingly "meta" moment (intentional or not). Khan's just like us - he missed everything that happened in that decade-plus since the events of the original series. Most fans when they first heard that Kirk would be an Admiral in Star Trek: The Motion Picture reacted like, "Oh that's so cool! Passage of time, etc., etc." It's like we're seeing Khan's reaction to Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Makes me wonder what he would think of V'Ger.
That moment where Khan shouts "THIS IS CETI ALPHA V!" and the music cue with it are just brilliant and one of the best moments in the film.
He’s the smartest guy in the room is annoyed that Chekhov figured this out yet.
I love how calm and menacing khan is when picking up chekov
The truly powerful have no need to scream to display how threatening they can be.
When projected correctly, presence alone can be utterly terrifying.
Why?
……..why???
A minor nitpick though: Chekov WASN'T around at the time to know about Khan. He joined the show later on.
@@dr.juerdotitsgo5119 The only way that I can rectify that continuity error is to maintain that, as Kahn was going through the Enterprise's Technical Manuals while in Sick Bay, he perused the personnel records where a picture of Chekov's face appeared.
Maybe Chekov was simply off-duty while Kahn's overtake of the Enterprise was happening...?
Ricardo was absolutely perfect for this role. Charming and absolutely terrifying at the same time. He will definitely go down as one of the greats!!!!!
I always have to remind myself this came out during the height of Montalban's portrayal of Mr. Roarke on "Fantasy Island"; yet in neither performance do you ever conflate one character for the other. Considering his distinctive voice, face and carriage, that speaks volumes about this man's acting ability.
It's funny you should say that, because Montalban said himself (in an interview I saw years ago), that during rehearsals he was unhappy with his performance: Khan was coming across just like Mr. Roarke. It took him a little concentration to get back into Khan's head and portray a revenge-driven villain. But he not only got it, he succeeded brilliantly.
Every time I have watched this scene it has given me goosebumps when he finally removes the covering. I’ve been watching it since it came out in the theatre and it still gives me chills. Ricardo was such a fine actor. Everything about his acting made Khan.
I 've been watching it that long as well. I have the Blu-Ray which lets you select either Theatrical or Director's cut.
I am glad this clip didn’t include the brain worms.
@@keithtorgersen9664 Aarrgghh, Mr. Torgersen 😟 That scene made me shudder the first time I saw it as a 12 year old in the theater with my late uncle and cousin back in early June, 1982
@@keithtorgersen9664 I remember it being part of a double feature with Rocky 3
@@michaelvaughn8864Wrath of Khan with Rocky 3 give me a break mismatched ever there was one
I remember seeing this in a cinema during a revival a few years ago: the crowd roared with cheers when Khan revealed himself. Damn that Ricardo Montalban was good in this.
He almost turned down the role because it wasn't a lot of screen time. But then he realized when Kahn wasn't on screen he was being talked about. The movie would have been bland with anyone else.
@@stephenolan5539
Khan played by anyone else would not be worth making the movie. He looked like an augmented human and no fake body prosthesis either.
@@2bituser569
Yes, and his voice as well.
Once William Sharner interviewed him and asked him to say his name. The audience cheered extremely loudly.
“I never forget a face, Mr. Chekov. You kept me waiting for the bathroom that day on the Enterprise and I almost soiled my pants. Oh, how I have dreamt of this day…”
Ricardo did this entire monologue scene in one take, included hittin every camera angle mark perfectly.
That's true..... you really have to hand it to Ricardo for bringing in that level of profession in the craft.
Producer Robert Sallin said in an interview that in the days before Ricardo Montalban arrived to shoot his scenes, the cast, while perfectly professional, had taken a bit of a laid-back and casual attitude to the work on set, and performed with a certain "looseness" as he described it. Then after everyone witnessed Montalban come in already fully prepared and nailing his multi-page monologue on Day 1, Sallin says the rest of the cast IMMEDIATELY stepped up their game and started taking the job much more seriously.
No matter what part Ricardo played he was a god and made everyone else look like ants compared to him, a true talent.
"I don't know you." What an opening line.
*_"It's only the Fact of my Genetically Engineered intellect, that allowed us to surviveeeeeee!"_*
Oh The Suspense. I Getting chills!!! *Ahhh 💞the 80's💞* PLEASE take me Back to that era!!!
I love how this scene also highlights Khan's great achilles heel - even with his "superior intellect," it takes him a moment to connect the dots - they were surprised to see him, which means they weren't here for him, which means they were here for something else. A Khan calm and sharp would have seen it immediately, and he';; certainly never forget the information he learhns. But his fury over Kirk clouds his ability to put those facts together, And it shows why Kirk will win.
Man, many Star Trek veterans are 100 years old this year. DeForest Kelley, James Doohan, and now Ricardo Montalbán, who of course plays the most iconic villain in the entire franchise. I’m going to have to use Shatner to say “Khan!”
He should’ve won best supporting actor for this role. Period. 🏆
Before release, there was concern the audience would look at Ricardo Montalban and see Mr. Roarke from _Fantasy Island._ Montalban put that and other concerns to rest.
One of the best character reveals in cinema. It’s obvious who it is since his name is in the title, which probably makes it even more impressive when you think about it… it’s still so tense.
I saw this movie at least 10 times in the theater when it came out. This scene and Ricardo Montalban's performance for the entire movie is legendary.
RIP Ricardo you played this well
SO much great and lasting moments in this scene. "Admiral?" "THIS is Ceti Alpha FIVE!" and my favorite is when he gets lost back into former glory. "On Earth, two hundred years ago, I was a PRINCE..." and then he slams right into his true self, "...with power over MILLIONS." The line delivery was perfectly dramatic!
What writing and acting.
With the little bugle music cue that harkens back to Patton.
Richardo Maltabon. Was one of the finest actors of the 20th century. He deserves all the acclaime we can shower him with. ❤❤❤❤
Ricardo did more character building in 5 minutes than JJ & Ryan in all of their "movies".
Khan : THIS IS STAR TREK !!!
I just love how a villian of the week from The Original Series returned as the main antagonist in this film.
The best villain they could have chosen for a sequel movie.
The way Khan's eyes widen almost imperceptibly at :35 in reaction to Chekov recognizing him is some brilliantly subtle work by Ricardo Montalban.
I noticed that immediately, it's as if he's communicating "I remember you Chekov"
I love the way at 4.11 Khan realises that the Reliant stumbled on Ceti Alpha V by accident and totally ignores Chekov's ranting...😁😄
Haha *Chekov:* "...you tried to steal his ship and murder him!" *Khan:* "Yeah, uh-huh, I'm happy for you and all that, but back the truck up here a sec, you thought you were on Ceti Alpha VI?"
I always thought the reveals of Jaws or Darth Vader were the best intros until I saw this movie. I had no idea who Khan was, but because of the music and Chekov's reaction, I knew he was the bad guy.
Chekhov weighs about 150-160lbs. His suit, judging by todays spacesuits, weighs anywhere between 250-280lbs. Together, that conservatively makes 400lbs of mass.
_And Khan lifted all of it above his head with one hand with no visible effort._
Genetically engineered. Hell my first summer job was lifting 100 lb 12' long boxes of siding all night long. I weighed 116 lbs and was 5' 6" and I was 16 years old. 40 years ago when laws about how much one man could lift didn't exist. Second summer 80 lb concrete patio stones. I partied with bikers and they used to play catch with me, tossing me around. Until I turned around and picked up a 200lb biker and tossed him to the other biker. They laughed their asses off. But yeah old days men were men. No augmentation needed to do that. And figure future space suits will be much lighter, look how Chekov walks around as if it is incredibly light. Trust me if I was as pissed as Khan... I could have picked him up one handed. But still, good point. Shows how pissed Khan was.
Ceti Alpha V is referred to as "Barely A Class M Planet". This, along with the fact it's mass was apparently light enough that it could be knocked out of orbit, may suggest it's gravity was less than Earth normal. Even though Khan is much stronger than the average human, Checkov probably weighs less here than he would at 1 g.
@@Lukiel666 Thank you for reminding us how old men also like to TALK and BRAG to boost their tiresome egos. Your summer jobs and biker troubles don't correlate with a man who can lift 400 pounds over his head without any effort at all or what you would do in Khan's situation. I will tell you what many should have told you in your era: "Get over yourself"
@@EmptyMan000 It's a movie stunt....Get over yourself.
@@kennethfoulke2726 This is a good point regarding different gravity levels by planet.
"I've never even met Admiral Kirk."
"Admiral? Admiral?!?... Admiral..."
Khan was really pissed when his Chrysler Cordoba got clogged up with sand :)
ROFLMFAOoooooooooooooooooo! Brilliantly written, indeed, "Sir"
Khan doesn't like sand, it's course and rough and irritating, and gets everywhere over the planet.
One of the best introductions of a villain in film history.
Khan probably should have paid more attention to that Milton quote. Ruling in hell is still hell.
But he is still ruling!
Ah Khan! Everybody's favorite Mexican Spanish Indian Sikh warlord.
Like "Pierrot Le Fou" vs. "Spike Spiegel" in "Cowboy Bebop," the one who could END James T. Kirk without breaking into a sweat.;)
and rumoured to be the reason why there are no people of Chinese origin in trek
Also a cow in a Family Guy episode.
He even later got to add "British" to that list!
"You lie! On Fantasy Island there was life, a fair chance!"
"This IS Fantasy Island! The volcano... exploded six months after we arrived here. The shock laid all here to waste. The Plane... never came back, never bothered to check on us. It was only the fact of my quasi-supernatural powers and the fact that I slaughtered and ate Tattoo that enabled us to survive."
"Tattoo was your friend! You repaid him with murder!"
"He tasted like chicken."
lol
After all these years of watching this movie I still get goosebumps with this scene. The best Star Trek filmed ever made. Can't wait to see this in theaters for the 40th anniversary
I still remember being blown away when this first came out... seeing Mr. Roarke from Fantasy Island playing an evil guy so convincingly just stole the show.
Damn right.
I have express my disappointment in starfleet not being able to count the planets in the system and apparently not realizing which planet they were on.
Khan: I don't know you.
Me: (silent "Whew")
The combination of the brilliant Montalban and Horner's creepy score really makes this a very tense and wonderful scene in one of the best sequels in film history.
At 3:51 when Khan speaks about being on Earth 200 years ago, Horner uses similar echoing horns that sound like what Jerry Goldsmith had in the movie Patton.
Rich Corinthian leather
@@TheVacc139 Yep, I recall an interview (I forget if it was with James Horner himself or director Nicholas Meyer) that specifies that Meyer mentioned to Horner something like "remember that distant horn in Patton?" when planning the music for this scene.
@@TheVacc139 As you would recall, Patton thought he was a reincarnated soldier from the Punic Wars (pre-Empire Rome v Carthage) and the music played on part of the site of Carthage. Khan must have thought of his life during the Eugenics War in a similar light.
I went walking once through a path that was tree-lined on both sides while listening to the Star Trek II soundtrack. It was overcast and foggy that afternoon. When this track came on it creeped me out big time!
"Welcome to Fantasy Island."
Hahahahaha!
Ricardo Montalban was born for this role. He was simply glorious in it and truly inhabited the character of Khan. Still one of my favorite movies after all these years.
The music that hits at 0:35 is so sick. I was hoping they’d reprise it for the moment that Cumberbatch’s Khan was revealed in the new movie, but I guess I’m also okay with it living exclusively with Montalban’s masterful interpretation.
Yeah the mystery and dread of the music is awesome. It reminded me a bit of the early Alien movies. Just looked it up. James Horner did music for Wrath of Khan and Aliens (2nd film), and first Alien film was Jerry Goldsmith, who has ironically done some Star Trek stuff. Goldsmith's score for Star Trek: First Contact is one of my favourites
@@chrisbirch4150 Agreed! The French horn solo in the main title theme of "First Contact" is one of my all-time favorite parts of any film score.
Oh man Cumberbatch as good as he is couldn't match what Ricardo did with that role. Imo none of the JJ films nailed the stories and characters the way the original series or the movies did. All that said paying homage to Wrath of Khan and Ricardo Montalban with the music would've been great.
Ah, yes. J.J. Abrams taking a steaming dump all over the Star Trek franchise. He should have been arrested for desecration.
One of the most badass intros of a villain in sci-fi film history.
I think what enrages Khan even more, is the fact that, the Enterprise crew basically just forgot about them, when he realized that even Chekov never told the story even "to amuse his captain" as a joke. That Khan Singh, the ruler of a quarter of the Earth was just left in the dust, in the rear view, never to be heard from again. In many ways, it would have been more honorable, more respectable if Kirk had just killed him right then in there, but no instead marooned him on Ceti Alpha V and never bothered to have anyone, check up on them. No wonder he was pissed. What I think makes Khan compelling is that his rage is justifiable, his belief that kirk basically murdered them in slow motion, is a reasonable position to have. Kirk left them to rot, not out of malice but apathy,it was a problem he just didn't feel compelled to continue dealing with, or even tell anyone to do something about. The federation didn't feel compelled to do anything about it either. Here you have a living society of 1996 super humans, and you're telling me not one anthropologist, or sociologist was interested in studying these people? Yeah, I definitely can feel Khan's sense of rejection, like a discarded toy.
Well, he had rescued Khan and his people, were gracious hosts and Khan took advantage of his generosity to try to take his ship and murder its crew. That's just despicable. Kirk can't kill them, that would violate the laws and be murder. So the only thing he can do really is maroon him. And sweep the whole incident under the rug. After what Khan and his followers had done I'm sure they couldn't care less about their plight, just maroon and forget. They are lucky they got off that easy.
If they check up on Khan and find they have to relocate them to another planet, that just means they gotta deal with Khan and his followers again and risk losing the ship and their lives again. And Kirk is the only one to successfully deal with Khan. Anyone else stumbling upon Khan wouldn't be so lucky as Kirk. So entrusting anyone else to keep an eye on things just risks Khan gets free again somehow.
@@westonstevens3239 I agree with a lot of what you said, but on an emotional standpoint, I can see where Khan and his people were unjustifiably "forgotten" and left to rot.
The apathetic way to defend Kirk was that there was the ongoing cold war with the Klingons and much as it took other captains to keep the Klingons in check, Kirk still bested them as well as he did Khan.
Imagine having to use your wits against TWO formidable enemies like Khan and the Klingons.
Can you imagine two enemies from either side that want your head so badly as Khan and the Klingons?
Kirk is only human and, as Chekov pointed out, had his duty and he had a galaxy to look out for at the present. I'm sure if the Klingons hadn't been such a pain in the ass, let alone the Romulans, I'm sure that Starfleet would've instructed Kirk, "Go to the Ceti Alpha system and check on those people you gave a planet to. You aren't to make your presence known but we need to make sure they haven't developed warp drive yet. Last thing we need is a Space war with our own kind causing problems like they did eons ago."
Yes you can fully understand how Kahn feels. Yes he knew it would be a struggle, this is mentioned in Space Seed. But he did not expect Ceti Alpha 6 to explode and make the situation even worse on Ceti Alpha 5. Never mind the fact that no one bothered to check if all was ok, nor were informed that they were there.
The fact is, someone else 'should' have been informed. If Kirk considered Kahn such a threat, this knowledge should have been relayed to the Federation so no unsuspecting ships would wander into the same situation without taking proper precautions, as the Reliant did. Had he informed the federation, the whole incident with Reliant might have been avoided. And if the federation had been aware, they'd have likely been monitoring that system so they'd know if Ceti Alpha 6 had exploded and would have been able to check if Kahn and his followers were OK.
But no, Kahn was just left to rot, forgotten and unwanted as if he was nothing more than subhuman or worse. It doesn't say much about Kirk when you take that into consideration. No wonder Kahn was so angry and bitter. He'd effectively been told he was worthless and neither he nor his people were worth saving.
@@westonstevens3239
Checking up on them could just be a simple sensor sweep scan of the planet make sure they’re still there. No need to beam anyone down to be taken hostage.
@@geoffwilliams4478
I doubt if the planet hadn’t shifted they would take centuries to develop technologies close to warp drive 😂 no matter how intelligent you need industrialization.
Khan is described as being a Sikh from North India. What amazed me about his head peace is that it resembles a Sikh Turban. His mother's name was Serina Kaur, a Eugenics Scientist from Punjab, North India. I love how Star Trek was always the champion in representing different people before anyone.
"I love how Star Trek was always the champion in representing different people before anyone."
But they couldn't find a single person of Indian descent to play the character.. Terrible brownface..
I love the bit where he twigs they didnt expect to find him there.
This scene was remarkably intense and it only gets more intense, just a few minutes later. No wonder this movie is so highly regarded as the ultimate Star Trek film. I’ve probably seen it around 20 times and yet thats still not enough.
I think Khan is the type of character that requires overacting, something Montalban excelled at he would not take a roll and do it half-assed. And it was this that really made Shatner's tendency to overact very effective. It's like the two of them were designed to go down fighting with their hands around the other's throat
@aquariandawn4750
" Agreed " as Picard always said.
@@stevecowder4774 yes but my absolute favorite line from Picard will always be : Shutup, Wesley
@@aquariandawn4750
😆 🤣 I remember that episode.
Literally the best acting in sci fi
Paul Winfield rest in peace.
I had this on beta max as a kid. One of my favorite movies
Ricardo Montalban truly shines as Khan Noonian Singh. A man with a legitimate grievance.
Awesome acting ! The best Star Trek movie - the standard to which all others would be measured. Before Khan and After Khan …
Is it just me , but the costuming is just superb here ? Khan and his followers look like an 80's heavy metal band who have been on tour for so long ,it looks like the stripped the cloth from them interior of the bus for clothing.This movie works so much more smoothly than the first Star Trek movie . I've seen it a few times ,but the "Motion Picture"?
Twice.
One buddy (RIP) picked up the " directors cut" of the Motion Picture years ago.
Great ,that's just what that movie needs..
More footage.
Along with the editing, it's the music that makes this reveal so ominous. First the chaotic strings sounding like flies buzzing around you, getting under your skin and making you beg to have them gone...only to end in a single, deep bass note that leaves you no choice: This s**t just got real...
There were questions asked about this scene by Star Trek fans:
How could Chekov know who Khan was? On the episode "Space Seed" that first featured Khan, Chekov was not part of the crew.
I think I have a suitable answer. Perhaps there was a training area on the Enterprise and Chekov was learning the stuff he needed to know while he was on the ship, and therefore wasn't aboard the bridge at the time. If Chekov was on the ship learning, then perhaps he was introduced to Khan by someone.
But how could Khan in turn know Chekov?
Chekhov used up all the TP as Khan was waiting to use the toilet.
@@RemoveChink exactly, that would ony explain how Chekov knows Kahn, not the other way around
It was explained in the novelization. tldr: while not a member of the bridge crew at the time chekov was on board the enterprise, led a failed attempt to retake engineering, where he first met khan, and later was the officer assigned to lead the security detail that escorted khan and his people to the planet surface. He was the last member of the crew he interacted with before the ship left orbit
@@JS-wp4gs Yeah, I remember he snapped his handcuffs in front of Chekov, haha.
Ricardo should why her was such a fine actor. Thanks to his great acting talents, Kahn will forever be the GOAT of all Star Trek villians.
Because of his Hispanic heritage, & Spanish accent, & being a proud Mexican/American myself, in my humble home, as a family, my pasted ex-girlfriends, my two kids, & now my 3 grandkids as well, on Friday evenings, out on my deck overlooking my city, the City of Tucson, we have "Theatre under the Stars" & I've acted out this exact scene out on my deck, but I do it in Spanish only, & I included Spanish Cuss words that adds magnificent spices to this scene, while the people present roll on the deck floor, laughing their as*seS off. It's even so much better once the weEd kicks in. Great times indeed. Covid-19 F-keD everything up. It also took 4 of my lifelong friends, & was unable to attend their funerals because of it.
when i first saw this as a teen in the theater, i was like oh no, its khan. and he gonna be mad as hell. great perfromance by ricardo montalbon. scary but great.
I'm currently reading the Star Trek novels by Greg Cox that deal with Khan's backstory and the one about his time on Ceti Alpha V up to where Chekhov and Terrell arrive. Interesting reads so far.
Which novels are these?
@@thetandfpodcast it's a trilogy by Greg Cox: The Eugenics Wars, Volumes 1 & 2, which cover Khan's backstory, and To Reign in Hell, which is about what happens after Kirk leaves him and his followers on Ceti Alpha V.
@@cathyspence4662 Those books were pretty good.
Film score is incredible
Yes! Khan: 2, Kirk: 0 (but it is early in the first quarter)
A lost art. Film scores these days, even for films that are well acted and well written are very forgettable. There have been bad films that people still remember because they had great scores.
I have this up there with Williams' SW score. This is that good.
I just love Montalban's characterization, in an interview he reflects on how Nicholas Meyer helped him to achieve the blend of drama and passion without turning it into overacting. The result is superb, Khan is theatrical and classically villainous, and it's almost as if Khan knows the impact it has and is content with it. His followers watch with patience as he takes off his mask and veil, because they know he enjoys the gravitas and anticipation of it. Khan has stewed in his own bitterness and despair over the loss of his wife for years, and now finally he has a chance at revenge, of course he's savouring every second of it.
He will always be, the one and ONLY Khan
Montobans greatest performance of his career. No one has ever come close.
I never noticed all my life that Khan, as much as he hates and resents Kirk, corrects himself to address Kirk by his rightful rank. Khan maybe a villain, but gotdamn, he is a gentleman by all measure.
The scary thing is Ricardo DID pick up Chekov for real with no assistance. He joked he could only do it once and that was the take they used. Those muscles? Everyone was all "oh thats latex" but everyone involved with the film swore those are his real pecs...he was THAT jacked.
Sounds like bullshit to me. Montalban was jacked, no doubt, but we’re talking about a 61 year old guy with well known back problems picking up a 160 lb man by a little plastic hook on his chest.
@@peterp2153 stfu u retard it is true.
"It was only the fact of my genetically engineered intellect that we had survived." So beautiful. Its an absolutely neutral statement. While it implies he's a genius, but he acts with an aura of unnecessary superiority.
I wish it included the first part of the scene where checkoff sees the name of the ship with a look of terror. While the older star trek movies might be a bit slow on the take(compared to modern movies), the acting and story of this one has to be my favorite from the original series movies
Love how it dawns on Khan that they had no idea he was there.
Montalban is an amazing villain. Understated hatred and lust for revenge. Perfection.
I like how he says “….laid waste!”
Love how the handle on the suit is there purely so Kahn can show his strength 😂
Yeah, that's exactly why they put it there. As with most of the props and uniforms, they reused what was left from Star Trek: the Motion Picture. Kirk and Spock wore the suits for the space walk scene in that movie, and there was no handle. I presume the in-universe explanation is that it's a convenient handle for the user to stow or carry the suit when it's not being worn. The real-world reason is that it was added specifically for this scene.
The original man literally too angry to die, everybody!
Step aside, Darth Maul…
And "Benedict Cummerbund," who only got "Khan the Ruthless" down, but had all the charisma of...a Crumpet.;)
@@Otokichi786 In all fairness, that lousy script didn’t do him a solid at all. I’m sure with better writing, he could’ve done a good job.
You mean Darth Scion..
@@We_Are_Borg_478 The point is, Sion and Maul are amateurs when it comes to being too angry to die. 😂
@@Otokichi786 i like the idea that Cumberbatch plays a younger khan, who had not yet gained the wisdom of age that this Khan has.
0:30 Everyone appreciates seeing someone shocked to see a familiar face again after years.
One of the best movies ever made.........
How Ricardo Montauban did get a best supporting actor Oscar or maybe even best actor period nomination is crazy
The oscars are rigged anyway. Ricardo Montauban didn’t have to have a empty cup to know he stole the show in Star Trek 2. The respect he got from the fans is the real prize.
Of the best (& underrated) movie villains ever!
I saw the movie the other day in theaters with a load of Star Trek fans and they chuckled when Khan says he remembers Chekhov. 😂
Checkov was there, he was just in sick bay the whole time, out of sight.
Its not a big deal to me that it’s revealed Chekov was onboard during the incident between the scenes we saw. Old Enterprise 1701 was a big ship with crew of 400+ so plenty of room for Chekov to be elsewhere.
Poor Reliant captain, deals with one of film's greatest villains of all time in Khan... then gets promoted to police captain and goes on to get massacred by the Terminator 2 years later.
Khan is so awesome! He was the ultimate villain. Khan was highly intelligent, resourceful and cunning.
In Memory of Ricardo Montebaun
Not a big fan of Star Trek but I love this movie and the villain. I got to see it in theaters in September for the 40th anniversary.
In some ways Khan was right about Kirk, not one time did he ever check on the augments well-being, they felt abandoned, and they had to fend for themselves. I would be pissed too, Khan getting revenge was wrong but understandable considering what they went through.
Yes. And remember he'd lost everything virtually as a result; including his wife. He'd been made to believe he was worthless and not worth bothering to save. That would likely p*ss a lot of people off.
In reality, though, Khan and his followers should've been eternally grateful they weren't made to suck vacuum at the end of that episode. Or had phaser coolant gas accidentally-on-purpose leaked into the brig while they were there. Or that he was allowed to take his "wife" at all. Maybe Kirk or the Federation messed up by not checking up on them, sure that argument could be made, but the best revenge is often simply living well. They got hold of a ship, which they knew how to operate, and had access to its entire database. This means they could've gone anywhere, far away from Kirk and the Federation, and made themselves a kingdom. In fact, one of them suggests doing just that, and is yelled at for his efforts.
Khan was just an obsessive, murderous psychopath with galaxy-sized delusions of grandeur. Sure, he makes a good foil for Kirk by exposing the latter's flaws, but let's not sympathize with genocidal maniacs who enjoyed a grand old torture fest with the scientists who had no idea who they even were.
Such a great actor - Ricardo Montalban
"Dats Weekardo Montaban!" -- Chekov
Easily the best Star Trek movie. And love me a good Star Trek movie.
Fun fact. ToS episode Space Seed, where Khan is introduced to us all, Walter Koenig was not yet part of the cast and Chekov was not on the ship...yet in this scene Khan remembers him...lol
Well, just because we didn’t SEE Chekov in the episode, doesn’t mean he wasn’t on the ship at the time. He could’ve been promoted to bridge officer after the Khan incident. That’s the easiest way to explain this
he always has this "but we COULD have been friends--but that's definitely in the *past tense*" air
The only Sikh character in sci fi.
And being played by a Mexican actor.
Khan: “I never forget a face.”
Thanos: “I don’t even know who you are.”
God this scene used to terrify me as a kid - Ricardo Montalbán was just flawless.
Had I been blessed with you being my Wife, or @ the very least my adoring GF, I would have gotten into the Khan Character as I slowly removed your clothes. U would've loved it.
Montalban was one of those actors who wouldn't do any role half-assed, and con is definitely a character that needs to be overacted
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Fun fact. Chekov was not stationed on the enterprise during the time of Space Seed. Since all knowledge of Kahn was sealed by starfleet, there is no way the two would have ever met.
Very true. He wasn't in that episode.
He was likely on the enterprise the ship had 430 crew members we likely just didn't see him and he wasn't promoted to navigator yet
"I remember you" Even though Chekhov was not part of the crew in the season 1 episode "Star Seed". Granted that he might have been there somewhere, but we didn't see it.