Pastor Ron Kelly is one of the most intellectually stimulating speakers of this era. This message needs to be heard not only by Adventists, but every individual in the world. May GOD continue to bless your ministry Pastor. Can’t wait to meet you again.
Powerful! Powerful! So proud of Pastor Kelly! Thank you for being a voice for those who have no voice. May you always stay this strong and on fire for God, this is my prayer. Blessings to you and your family.
@George Jones All does not mean he is the only....it implies there are others.... BUT....ALLLL.....is needed. Especially those with the largest platforms and audiences.... let's pray for that
@George Jones God does not want some of us to do His bidding.... He wants ALL..that does not mean all will.. and yes I am thankful and happy for the few.....
We can both be happy about that..... have a blessed day my brother..... I guess speak from what we see.... where I am is not great , but God be praised.... you determine to hold on no matter what
Thank you for such a powerful sermon. Truth from God is always SO powerful, and I’ve wondered since I was a young girl so many years ago why our church didn’t stand up for the life of the unborn. I remember arguing in favor of life with my religion teacher in an SDA academy in the mid 1970’s, and I have wondered why we (as a church) are so spineless on certain moral issues, such as abortion. Thank you for showing how important it is to vote for right on issues and not to just follow a political party. 🙏🏻
The irony is that my whole life- raised in an Adventist home and schools- I always thought pro-life WAS the position of the church. It was a sad blow to learn the truth. Praise the Lord for the truth bearers and their courage.
Thank you for sharing this message of truth! May many more pastors and church leaders stand for all 10 commandments, and not compromise or remain silent on commandment #6.
Good sermon. I wasn't going to vote. However, in CA we have a prop that is based on this sermon. If I can't sort through the rest, I will definitely be voting on that one. Thanks Pastor Kelly! :)
If Elijah hadn’t stood up on Mt. Carmel there never would have been a revival. We must align ourselves with God, and walk with Him, not the powers of this Earth no matter how loud💒
I am very proud of Pastor Ron Kelly. We never heard such sermons in Singapore and how I wished we had more leaders and Pastors with such courage to share your kinds of messages in our churches. Your members are blessed
Thank you for not staying silent on the abortion topic. I think is time to pick a side in the great controversy between Jesus and Satan, life and death, right and wrong. God bless you Pr. Kelly.
Thank you for addressing Christian Nationalism. You are an extremely influential speaker. I would have wished the subject could have been addressed before now at your pulpit. I greatly appreciate your identification of the fact our county has spoken as a breastly power already.
“If every watchman on the walls of Zion had given the trumpet a certain sound, the world might ere this have heard the message of warning. But the work is years behind. While men have slept, Satan has stolen a march upon us.” Testimonies For The Church 9:29 (1909).
When u agree with liberty that taking ,but then u seperate when it comes to The Sunday law u break away.Ibdont agree.Why is he talking about Jan 6th.U preaching politics and Putting EGW wow just wow
Pastor when I was in my young age growing up in the church... pastors back then wasn't afraid to preach about the beast and America...but now I hardly hear it preach anymore, and I said to myself why, are our pastors getting cold feet and afraid of dying for preaching truth.
For many, I think it's more a "pocket book" situation rather than "cold feet". They do what the conference says or face losing their jobs. Research the conferences position on abortion and even homosexuality.
Why do we expect God's enemies to commend us and pat us on the back. Those who do wickedly will do wickedly and will not understand, but the wise will understand. Are you ashamed when you stand up for what it right and you called names? Get a backbone and STANDUP, this is the land of the free and home of the brave!!! Thank you Pastor.
Thank you so very much for this message, Pastor Kelly. Every Adventist pastor in the country should be saying this. "May Satan be disappointed" indeed.
"We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all our political; institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government; upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God." James Madison.
I would highly recommend that you watch the Epoch Times documentary on the January 6th protest. Your view of it has been tainted by the mainstream media.
Yes, I have noticed that too. It is very popular to take on a self righteousness that aligns with mainstream propaganda without any due diligence. SDAs who agree with this may find themselves just as maligned and slandered later themselves. Be careful to not propagate false witness. Those protestors are political prisoners with no rights and treated atrociously while rioters who murdered and destroyed are free and not pursued. The ones who were shot upon and some killed were the lawful protestors like Ashley Babbit.
Thank you so much, Pastor Ron Kelly. Your message is eye-opening. I'm only thinking that the main objectives of the themes could have been stressed and reiterated at the end of the message in simpler terms with regards to what adventists should do towards politics and abortion. A bullet point list would help to stress these ;points as to what we should and should noy do,.
I agree with you and what you say 100% except where you say that we SDA's stand for life. Loma Linda is a very big ABORTION hospital. For money we are more than willing to let go of morals and our church is just as guilty as any group of people. If we are going to stand up for right it is high time we address our own guilt in the murder of thousands of babies every year. As Israel of long ago needed to repent and return to God so do we. I love my church but I have to wonder where is has gone to. Like C D Brooks said in one of his sermons, "I want my Church BACK."
I have been praying and crying out to almighty God of Israel for answers and there's a lot of people that talk down seventh day Adventists. I'm doing more research but what I see and what I read in my Bible is that narrow is the way and wide is the path that leads to destruction I see so many how should I call them Sunday morning Christians the rearranging of the Sabbath I see more following that path then those that are following the seventh Day Adventist path so as of right now my research is telling me what God's word says narrow is the way and few be that find it so right now my gut is telling me that almighty God has heard my cries for the truth and is revealing it to me
I can't believe this is being done he telling u what and how to vote.Many times EGW says that the church is and will he as Babylon.She speaks of the church shaking so hard it only the remant.SHE says in the end their use her Name.Use the word of God.Use the word of God Then u get to no Guns no Death penalty .U just crossed into I never have or had a abortion,but I tell it God that anyone as to answer to.Thos why people think wevLosing it to the world Stay close to the church that lifts up Jesus Christ and know With home he lead u through all things in this world
One of the greatest sermon in history as it points out one of the greatest modern deception designed to keep Christian silent so evil reign. It is high time for us to stop accepting outcome and put our effort and energy in creating the outcome God desires. We should strive to create an environment that makes it easier for people to choose God over evil. As we as Christians stand up against evil in support of freedom and righteousness then the sinner will have the clear example and know who loves them. Siding with popular points of view is not courage nor love. Wonder why hopeless reign? It is because God has been pushed out of the public square. This nation is the greatest in the history of nations and we should never keep silent and allow the sword of God to fall on it.
I am Australian and don't know American history didn't both sides profit or also where involved in slavery ARE NOT BOTH SIDES of USA POLITICS INVOLVED IN EUROPE AND UKRAINE UKRAINE is a CIVIL WAR brother vs brother like USA and what did EGW SAY ? UNRIGHTIOUS WAR I was shown the dreadful state of our nation, and again was referred to (Isaiah 58; 59:1-15), as a description of the present state of things in our nation, and the reason for their present calamity. This is a most unrighteous war. The inhabitants of the earth have forgotten God. They have trampled upon His law and broken the everlasting covenant. They have despised His Sabbath. The fourth commandment was shown me as a golden link, which God designed should serve as a bond of union uniting man to man, and connecting earth to heaven and finite man to the infinite God. so clearly yes the PROPHET DID SHINE LIGHT ON THE SOCIAL ISSUES but who was behind the war and Ukraine war ? WHO GIANS POWER FROM THE WARS GOD clearly by EGW the prophets shows that LUCIFER was allowed due to people breaking GODS LAW
I have a question. Being from Canada I do not know what you ballets look. Are you ballets today like they were in EGW's time where you did not need to vote for a political party but still could vote for "anti saloons" So for with the abortion could you vote against abortion without voting for a political party?
Joseph dawang thank u pastor to warn the sda church leader are now being deluded by secular power in this world we must avoid politec s we must in the law of god amen
Why are we so afraid to talk about what causes pregnancy? HEY PEOPLES------------------- SEX causes pregnancy. You have sex you're accepting the risk. No sex, no babies...see how that works? (and no, rape is not sex and no one anywhere is saying the violent act of sex is a choice)
Very powerful message Pastor Kelly. I don’t believe that abortion is a civil right in any circumstance. If God allows a pregnancy then He has a plan for that life. He knit that baby in the womb and He has plans to make that baby prosper and to do good for that baby and He can work good out of evil. SDA’s should reject abortion for any reason. Often doctors are wrong. It is God who chooses to let live or die not man.
I understand you guys, do not forget we are christian. The bible is our guide. Every christian should be pro life. However , we should also be compationated like Jesus. Can somebody give me verse where God force anybody to do something. In the bible God told us, what we must do but it is up to us to do what ever we want. GOD NEVER RUN after anybody to make him do what He asks. My sevenday advantist friends , be care full with the way we présenter p
Remember in the garden of eden , God did not run after Adam and Eve. It was up to them to make the good or the bad choice . God will not run after anybody to force to follow his instructions or his commandments. We can not do that to anbody also. We can not force anbody to be save. It is up to them. We have to preach them, and tells them what God said, but it is up to them to accepet it or reject it.
@Verite Totale ¿Usted está a favor de la ANARQUÍA o es que para usted, los niños por nacer son de una categoía inferior? ¿Para usted asesinar a un bebé en el útero es lo mismo que aplastar cucarachas?
This sermon is disgusting in about half a dozen ways. The majority of the comments I’ve read so far are by people who actually “like” this kind of a sermon so I doubt I’ll get any requests to be more specific about how it is disgusting. In fact, I doubt that any of the people whose comments I’ve read so far will even read this next sentence: I would consider a sermon to be just as disgusting if a pastor were to urge his congregation to vote for a policy of using taxes to promote paganism (in public schools, for example), to vote for a policy of legislating progressive ethics or to vote for a policy of government entities or agencies enforcing the kinds of prohibitions that are advocated by the priests it the new ostensibly “secular” version of paganism. In the twenty-first century, many Christians are wringing their hands over the decline in numbers of people who are attending worship service services. What my wife and I celebrate on Independence Day is not so much a place as an idea - the idea that we don’t need monarchs or aristocrats or clergy to tell us what to believe or what to do or not do. Why on Earth would we invite someone to attend a worship service where the pastor (or anyone else) is there to tell us what to believe or what to do??!!! P.S. The word, “pagan”, was used as a pejorative for several centuries so, if you aren’t sure what paganism is, please consult some dictionaries or encyclopedias.
In regard to the previous sermon which Pastor Kelly referenced: For those who, claiming Christ, refused the vaccine for anything other than actual medical problems, and trying to claim a religious exemption of which there is none, there is a problem. (I personally know that many of these who requested exemption from the religious Liberty Depart. based their requests on the verse that says " your body is the temple of God" or on the basis of some rumor circulating online. If we love and follow Christ, then as was pointed out in the children's sermon at our church this morning, when we are not willing to, maybe, put ourselves in harm's way for others, then we are not following Christ but love of self. Further, condemning a business which is willing to take a hit to their business to keep others safer shows a lack of moral aptitude. Also, this is not the first quarantine instituted in the USA or history. In fact, God Himself, set health standards and standards of quarantines. My granddaughter was disanointed with JD 1 2 months into the pandemic. The incidence of newly diagnosed JD1 greatly increased since the beginning of the pandemic and doctors believe there is a connection. Did she have a nonsymptomatic case before her school went online. We'll only know, maybe, in heaven. Mistakes were made during the pandemic, but were not generally for those who, claiming Christ, refused the vaccine for anything other than actual medical problems, and trying to claim a religious exemption of which there is none, there is a problem. If we love and follow Christ, then as was pointed out in the sermon this morning, when we are not willing to, maybe, put ourselves in harm's way for others, then we are not following Christ but love of self. Further, condemning a business which is willing to take a hit to their business to keep others safer shows a lack of moral aptitude.
Si el cuerpo es templo del Espíritu Santo, rechazamos la inoculación porque nos amamos y amamos a nuestro prójimo. Por dicha razón, se desviven médicos y profesionales honestos, los cuales son censurados. ENTÉRESE. ¿Qué le hace suponer que en mi cuerpo es un peligro pero salvaría a los demás??? ¿De qué modo???
I want to start by clearly stateing that l am not and l will never be pro-abortion. I will always be pro life, commandments of God and freedomof conscience. However the issue in the sermon is way more complex than standing up and be a voice to the unborn which is laudable. The fact that you won't do an abortion because it's illegal it doesn't make us a more moral society or nation. If you could you would it already makes you guilty of it even if you haven't committed it. There has to be a middle ground where God's commandments can be upheld without the freedom of conscience being trampled on. When we find an excuse( However holy that might be) to trample on the freedom of conscience we only create room for other "holy" situations that alow us to do that in the name of God. I think the middle ground is the informed consent. It is what God gave us the chance to. We get to experience both good and evil and are free to choose what we want to follow. For this freedom many innocents paid a price throughout the history of humanity. And yet God has been allowing it for the sake of an informed consent of being with Him for eternity. He wants a choice out of love and not fear.
While I agree with much of your post, I believe the middle ground comes from abortion being a much more complicated question that has medical elements I can't know. I believe it is personal because I don't know all the factors. Pregnancy is a complicated condition. A fetus (before viability) has always been and always will be dependent on its mother for life. This is different than slavery. The condition of a slave was not natural dependant on the owner. This is a very personal moral choice and I cannot in good conscience be the person who makes this choice for someone else. All this said I am against abortion once a fetus is viable unless there are condition not comparable with life. We live in a day and age where we can provide successful medical care for much younger premees than previous.
@@bemnetmeried4121 By just voting to make this issue illegal, we are only choosing the lesser evil if that's the only choice we have without considering the freedom of conscience. Just because it's illegal it doesn't mean abortions won't happen going forward. There is just going to be a black market for it. You might save the life of some innocent children on the expense of the life of women that will still make that choice for whatever reason. I grew up in a communist country where contraception and abortion were illegal. I can tell you horror stories about the consequences of that. It still doesn't make me pro-abortion. What l mean by informed consent ( probablynot the best choice of words, english is my 4th language as you can tell by my spelling) is that we would rather have a system where these women are informed about both the earthly and eternal consequences of their choice to take a life which belongs to God. This way when they understand the measure of the their transgression it won't be such an easy decision to take a life. And even if they chose abortion their conscience will bear witness to that and down the road as l know many cases they will repent and be closer to God than if they haven't ever committed that sin. I still think this should be a moral issue between them and God( after being informedof the consequences) and not a legal issue streaming from a civil right or not. I heard that some exceptional cases could be excepted from the law and considered legal. Just because there are going to be legal exceptions it won't make it moral or right with God and they could still loose their souls. Hard to put in words all the little nuances of this issue, l hope it makes my point clearer though.
Alina, no one anywhere has said MEDICAL reasons are wrong. NO ONE ANYWHERE........ BUT those who use abortion for birth control (which is about 90% or more of abortions) is murder. The one thing people are afraid to say is: The cause of pregnancy is a choice. SEX is the cause, it is a choice. Sadly you'll now say "a raped woman didn't choose". AGAIN NO ONE anywhere has said a woman must carry the child produced from rape. --- though God would likely see the precious life of the child and hope the woman would see it's life as precious too.
Since the issue of abortion is about much more than he is saying, I have a hard time giving him credibility. I changed my mind on this issue when, I believe it was the early 80s, a pregnant woman was in an accident and the result was the doctors told the husband (they had two children) that they could save either the baby or the mother but not both and could not guarantee the baby would actually survive. A pro-life group sued to have the courts decide. At that time, I decided that others should not decide a person's life for them, that this was God's business and then in the end God would be the judge. The politicians have and some persons of faith have decided that they have the right to make the decisions and have gone so far as to endanger women's lives for an as yet unborn group of cells which might never become a person. We will not know until heaven if abortion is a sin, we only know that God knows in advance who will live. We only have David's words which express David's belief that the Lord knew Him before he was born and Jeremiah who speaks of God choosing him to be a prophet before he was born. But we have no evidence that He knows all who were not born for surely you must be born to have a purpose. I do not suppose elective abortion after 20 weeks. But even more, this forces a certain Christian viewpoint on non-Christians and God himself gives all free choice.
It’s hard for me to think that you’re even a Christian at all!! (No offense intended) You doubt Gods word as the opinions of those you disagree with on political issues?? That group of cells you speak of is a human being. Now I’m not saying that the courts should have made that decision, but I believe the Pastor was clear when he said, and I agree, that the exceptions to the rule should be worked out in legislation (ie.. incestual rape, life of the mother and child at stake, etc..) And if you don’t believe God’s word, in its entirety, because it was penned by men, believe the words God wrote with His own finger. Thou Shalt Not Kill!!!!
"We will not know until heaven if abortion is a sin, " The Adventist Church in section (3) of their official position says that abortion is a violation of the sixth commandment, are you saying the Church is wrong?
Pastor Ron Kelly is one of the most intellectually stimulating speakers of this era. This message needs to be heard not only by Adventists, but every individual in the world. May GOD continue to bless your ministry Pastor.
Can’t wait to meet you again.
It is a sign of the end times that advocating for life is in some way controversial. Pray for Pastor Kelly, an unborn child's true advocate.
Amen.
Powerful! Powerful! So proud of Pastor Kelly! Thank you for being a voice for those who have no voice. May you always stay this strong and on fire for God, this is my prayer. Blessings to you and your family.
If only ALL our ministers would have this courage... 🙏
@George Jones All does not mean he is the only....it implies there are others.... BUT....ALLLL.....is needed. Especially those with the largest platforms and audiences.... let's pray for that
@George Jones God does not want some of us to do His bidding.... He wants ALL..that does not mean all will.. and yes I am thankful and happy for the few.....
We can both be happy about that..... have a blessed day my brother..... I guess speak from what we see.... where I am is not great , but God be praised.... you determine to hold on no matter what
May the Lord continue giving you the courage to speak the truth dear Pr.
Kelly🙏🙏
The church needs men who will not be afraid calling sin by it's right name.these men God will protect🙏🏻
Thank you for such a history on our responsibility as SDA Christians. I will be forwarding this on to others. Greetings from Brisbane Australia!
Thank you for such a powerful sermon. Truth from God is always SO powerful, and I’ve wondered since I was a young girl so many years ago why our church didn’t stand up for the life of the unborn. I remember arguing in favor of life with my religion teacher in an SDA academy in the mid 1970’s, and I have wondered why we (as a church) are so spineless on certain moral issues, such as abortion. Thank you for showing how important it is to vote for right on issues and not to just follow a political party. 🙏🏻
Sad to say that abortion in our church run hospitals brings in too much of the almighty dollar for leadership to give it up.
Thank you for the message! I learned new things. May God Bless and protect you and your family.
The irony is that my whole life- raised in an Adventist home and schools- I always thought pro-life WAS the position of the church. It was a sad blow to learn the truth. Praise the Lord for the truth bearers and their courage.
It is sad.
Thank you for sharing this message of truth! May many more pastors and church leaders stand for all 10 commandments, and not compromise or remain silent on commandment #6.
Why does a pastor have to guide u to the voting Box
Hi @Sheri Richmond, thank you for your question. Have you listened to the message Pastor Kelly shares here? He explains that very well.
Good sermon. I wasn't going to vote. However, in CA we have a prop that is based on this sermon. If I can't sort through the rest, I will definitely be voting on that one. Thanks Pastor Kelly! :)
If Elijah hadn’t stood up on Mt. Carmel there never would have been a revival. We must align ourselves with God, and walk with Him, not the powers of this Earth no matter how loud💒
Courageous message and so full of truth!
I am very proud of Pastor Ron Kelly. We never heard such sermons in Singapore and how I wished we had more leaders and Pastors with such courage to share your kinds of messages in our churches. Your members are blessed
Consecrate yourself as God can use anyone who makes themselves available to him.
Thank you for not staying silent on the abortion topic. I think is time to pick a side in the great controversy between Jesus and Satan, life and death, right and wrong. God bless you Pr. Kelly.
Pastor if it is only you alone stay faithful and preach the undulated word God Amen.
❤Blessings of Love and peace and ABILITY and Courage to stand up for the biblical Truth in the Light 💡of God. ❤
Thank you for addressing Christian Nationalism. You are an extremely influential speaker. I would have wished the subject could have been addressed before now at your pulpit. I greatly appreciate your identification of the fact our county has spoken as a breastly power already.
Thank you, Pastor!
Thanks for standing up for the unborn and God's wonderful law of liberty God bless you all.
At 51:23, "May Satan be disappointed, is my prayer." Ditto. ✝
Keep preaching these bold but unpopular truths! It needs to be heard now more than ever!! 🙏🙏🙏
“If every watchman on the walls of Zion had given the trumpet a certain sound, the world might ere this have heard the message of warning. But the work is years behind. While men have slept, Satan has stolen a march upon us.” Testimonies For The Church 9:29 (1909).
Solemn
God bless you, Pastor, for standing up against the wickedness that is in our SDA church. ☺️🙏
The 4 minute doco, 'The Procedure', is a real eye opener. It should be viewed by anyone considering an abortion.
Thank you for not being afraid to stand up for LIFE & TRUTH and to go against the VAST MAJORITY in the Church on this issue!
We have freedom of choice.EGW said this church will Shake ,And it shaking
Please why always use EGW USE the Word .
I was raised a SDA u do not put politics into u sermon before election.Jow can u align with A Tryanny
When u agree with liberty that taking ,but then u seperate when it comes to The Sunday law u break away.Ibdont agree.Why is he talking about Jan 6th.U preaching politics and Putting EGW wow just wow
Pastor when I was in my young age growing up in the church... pastors back then wasn't afraid to preach about the beast and America...but now I hardly hear it preach anymore, and I said to myself why, are our pastors getting cold feet and afraid of dying for preaching truth.
Yes
For many, I think it's more a "pocket book" situation rather than "cold feet". They do what the conference says or face losing their jobs. Research the conferences position on abortion and even homosexuality.
Check out Pastor Ivor Myers - The Elephant in the Room. :)
@@papflower610 Great series of messages!
thank you Pastor Ron,God bless those poor little unborn babies, it breaks my heart so much, its soooo evil....
What about those poor little "first born" babies in Egypt that weren't passed over in the Passover. Does that break you heart too?
Yet our Adventist Church has a PRO CHOICE official stance on abortion. WHAT A DISGRACE!!!
May God help us to be on His side
Why do we expect God's enemies to commend us and pat us on the back. Those who do wickedly will do wickedly and will not understand, but the wise will understand. Are you ashamed when you stand up for what it right and you called names? Get a backbone and STANDUP, this is the land of the free and home of the brave!!! Thank you Pastor.
Thou shall not murder. Murder is the taking of innocent life.
Happy Sabbath!
Thank you so very much for this message, Pastor Kelly. Every Adventist pastor in the country should be saying this. "May Satan be disappointed" indeed.
Fearless preacher. Inspiring
Amen, Amen and a 1,000 times, Amen!
Amen! Very helpful!
Amen!
Those that can, should. Because those that would, can’t.
I don't live in your state, but you just convinced me to be a registered voter with the SOP statements you shared.
Speaking as a black man in America, I love this guy. I wish that the SDA'S as a whole weren't pro abortion 😕
Pro-choice, not pro-abortion.
I appreciate the statistics on who got abortions. Makes the sermon completete. May God guide us on same and every other part of life.
Courage always.
Dear Jesus Christ, please come soon.
YESHUA... Hebrew given name.
That was a great, true sermon! God bless you, Pastor Kelly!🙏
"We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all our political; institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government; upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God." James Madison.
This is a very sound presentation indeed.
I would highly recommend that you watch the Epoch Times documentary on the January 6th protest. Your view of it has been tainted by the mainstream media.
A media put out by the Falun Gong cult. Oh, boy. I don't think so.
Yes, I have noticed that too. It is very popular to take on a self righteousness that aligns with mainstream propaganda without any due diligence. SDAs who agree with this may find themselves just as maligned and slandered later themselves. Be careful to not propagate false witness. Those protestors are political prisoners with no rights and treated atrociously while rioters who murdered and destroyed are free and not pursued. The ones who were shot upon and some killed were the lawful protestors like Ashley Babbit.
I would have preferred you guys to have included that wonderful him in this video
When have the Democrats ever been correct on a moral issue?
A SDA Church in Papua New Guinea denied abortion practice in SDA Church. He was surprised when I pointed out to him.
Thank you so much, Pastor Ron Kelly. Your message is eye-opening. I'm only thinking that the main objectives of the themes could have been stressed and reiterated at the end of the message in simpler terms with regards to what adventists should do towards politics and abortion. A bullet point list would help to stress these ;points as to what we should and should noy do,.
Amen!!!
amen, amen, amen!!
I agree with you and what you say 100% except where you say that we SDA's stand for life. Loma Linda is a very big ABORTION hospital. For money we are more than willing to let go of morals and our church is just as guilty as any group of people. If we are going to stand up for right it is high time we address our own guilt in the murder of thousands of babies every year. As Israel of long ago needed to repent and return to God so do we. I love my church but I have to wonder where is has gone to. Like C D Brooks said in one of his sermons, "I want my Church BACK."
I have been praying and crying out to almighty God of Israel for answers and there's a lot of people that talk down seventh day Adventists. I'm doing more research but what I see and what I read in my Bible is that narrow is the way and wide is the path that leads to destruction I see so many how should I call them Sunday morning Christians the rearranging of the Sabbath I see more following that path then those that are following the seventh Day Adventist path so as of right now my research is telling me what God's word says narrow is the way and few be that find it so right now my gut is telling me that almighty God has heard my cries for the truth and is revealing it to me
Hello we are trying to find reins of the brains and can’t seem to find it can you send a link thank you we are new to this…
AMEN
Amen!
I can't believe this is being done he telling u what and how to vote.Many times EGW says that the church is and will he as Babylon.She speaks of the church shaking so hard it only the remant.SHE says in the end their use her Name.Use the word of God.Use the word of God Then u get to no Guns no Death penalty .U just crossed into I never have or had a abortion,but I tell it God that anyone as to answer to.Thos why people think wevLosing it to the world Stay close to the church that lifts up Jesus Christ and know With home he lead u through all things in this world
If we fail to use our influence to protect the most vulnerable, what right do we have to religious liberty before God?
One of the greatest sermon in history as it points out one of the greatest modern deception designed to keep Christian silent so evil reign. It is high time for us to stop accepting outcome and put our effort and energy in creating the outcome God desires. We should strive to create an environment that makes it easier for people to choose God over evil. As we as Christians stand up against evil in support of freedom and righteousness then the sinner will have the clear example and know who loves them.
Siding with popular points of view is not courage nor love. Wonder why hopeless reign? It is because God has been pushed out of the public square. This nation is the greatest in the history of nations and we should never keep silent and allow the sword of God to fall on it.
Just like the Jews, not one stone will be left upon another.
I am Australian and don't know American history didn't both sides profit or also where involved in slavery
ARE NOT BOTH SIDES of USA POLITICS INVOLVED IN EUROPE AND UKRAINE
UKRAINE is a CIVIL WAR brother vs brother
like USA and what did EGW SAY ? UNRIGHTIOUS WAR
I was shown the dreadful state of our nation, and again was referred to (Isaiah 58; 59:1-15), as a description of the present state of things in our nation, and the reason for their present calamity. This is a most unrighteous war. The inhabitants of the earth have forgotten God. They have trampled upon His law and broken the everlasting covenant. They have despised His Sabbath. The fourth commandment was shown me as a golden link, which God designed should serve as a bond of union uniting man to man, and connecting earth to heaven and finite man to the infinite God.
so clearly yes the PROPHET DID SHINE LIGHT ON THE SOCIAL ISSUES
but who was behind the war and Ukraine war ? WHO GIANS POWER FROM THE WARS
GOD clearly by EGW the prophets shows that LUCIFER was allowed due to people breaking GODS LAW
I have a question. Being from Canada I do not know what you ballets look. Are you ballets today like they were in EGW's time where you did not need to vote for a political party but still could vote for "anti saloons"
So for with the abortion could you vote against abortion without voting for a political party?
Yes, you can vote for specific issues without voting for a political party.
This is the sad truth about The SDA church position on Abortion=economics…
So am I the only one who have thought differnt on the abortion act here. That you don't have the right to take someone's choice away?
Joseph dawang thank u pastor to warn the sda church leader are now being deluded by secular power in this world we must avoid politec s we must in the law of god amen
YHWH call on His name. Joel 2:32...endtime context... Yahua, Yeshua
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PRO CHOICE. EVEN GOD GIVE ALL OF US CHOICES
Correct theology is "Thou shalt not kill." Incorrect theology is "Thou shalt not murder."
Then every soldier better just resign from the Army then. LOL!
What do you do when your being tortured 24/7 with magnetic nanotechnology and you are dying and no one will help. They are liking me! I need help!
Why are we so afraid to talk about what causes pregnancy? HEY PEOPLES------------------- SEX causes pregnancy. You have sex you're accepting the risk. No sex, no babies...see how that works? (and no, rape is not sex and no one anywhere is saying the violent act of sex is a choice)
Very powerful message Pastor Kelly. I don’t believe that abortion is a civil right in any circumstance. If God allows a pregnancy then He has a plan for that life. He knit that baby in the womb and He has plans to make that baby prosper and to do good for that baby and He can work good out of evil. SDA’s should reject abortion for any reason. Often doctors are wrong. It is God who chooses to let live or die not man.
I understand you guys, do not forget we are christian. The bible is our guide. Every christian should be pro life. However , we should also be compationated like Jesus. Can somebody give me verse where God force anybody to do something. In the bible God told us, what we must do but it is up to us to do what ever we want. GOD NEVER RUN after anybody to make him do what He asks. My sevenday advantist friends , be care full with the way we présenter p
Is it ungodly when civil government arrests murderers for their crimes?
Remember in the garden of eden , God did not run after Adam and Eve. It was up to them to make the good or the bad choice . God will not run after anybody to force to follow his instructions or his commandments. We can not do that to anbody also. We can not force anbody to be save. It is up to them. We have to preach them, and tells them what God said, but it is up to them to accepet it or reject it.
@@veritetotale4194 are civil governments acting outside the will of God when they arrest a murderer?
@Verite Totale ¿Usted está a favor de la ANARQUÍA o es que para usted, los niños por nacer son de una categoía inferior? ¿Para usted asesinar a un bebé en el útero es lo mismo que aplastar cucarachas?
Enough already
Salem OR hospital newborns are "it". Not male or female. April 2023
I hope that those flowers are fake if they are not they are a waste of money.
This sermon is disgusting in about half a dozen ways.
The majority of the comments I’ve read so far are by people who actually “like” this kind of a sermon so I doubt I’ll get any requests to be more specific about how it is disgusting. In fact, I doubt that any of the people whose comments I’ve read so far will even read this next sentence: I would consider a sermon to be just as disgusting if a pastor were to urge his congregation to vote for a policy of using taxes to promote paganism (in public schools, for example), to vote for a policy of legislating progressive ethics or to vote for a policy of government entities or agencies enforcing the kinds of prohibitions that are advocated by the priests it the new ostensibly “secular” version of paganism.
In the twenty-first century, many Christians are wringing their hands over the decline in numbers of people who are attending worship service services.
What my wife and I celebrate on Independence Day is not so much a place as an idea - the idea that we don’t need monarchs or aristocrats or clergy to tell us what to believe or what to do or not do. Why on Earth would we invite someone to attend a worship service where the pastor (or anyone else) is there to tell us what to believe or what to do??!!!
P.S. The word, “pagan”, was used as a pejorative for several centuries so, if you aren’t sure what paganism is, please consult some dictionaries or encyclopedias.
In regard to the previous sermon which Pastor Kelly referenced: For those who, claiming Christ, refused the vaccine for anything other than actual medical problems, and trying to claim a religious exemption of which there is none, there is a problem. (I personally know that many of these who requested exemption from the religious Liberty Depart. based their requests on the verse that says " your body is the temple of God" or on the basis of some rumor circulating online. If we love and follow Christ, then as was pointed out in the children's sermon at our church this morning, when we are not willing to, maybe, put ourselves in harm's way for others, then we are not following Christ but love of self. Further, condemning a business which is willing to take a hit to their business to keep others safer shows a lack of moral aptitude. Also, this is not the first quarantine instituted in the USA or history. In fact, God Himself, set health standards and standards of quarantines. My granddaughter was disanointed with JD 1 2 months into the pandemic. The incidence of newly diagnosed JD1 greatly increased since the beginning of the pandemic and doctors believe there is a connection. Did she have a nonsymptomatic case before her school went online. We'll only know, maybe, in heaven. Mistakes were made during the pandemic, but were not generally for those who, claiming Christ, refused the vaccine for anything other than actual medical problems, and trying to claim a religious exemption of which there is none, there is a problem. If we love and follow Christ, then as was pointed out in the sermon this morning, when we are not willing to, maybe, put ourselves in harm's way for others, then we are not following Christ but love of self. Further, condemning a business which is willing to take a hit to their business to keep others safer shows a lack of moral aptitude.
Si el cuerpo es templo del Espíritu Santo, rechazamos la inoculación porque nos amamos y amamos a nuestro prójimo. Por dicha razón, se desviven médicos y profesionales honestos, los cuales son censurados. ENTÉRESE. ¿Qué le hace suponer que en mi cuerpo es un peligro pero salvaría a los demás??? ¿De qué modo???
I want to start by clearly stateing that l am not and l will never be pro-abortion. I will always be pro life, commandments of God and freedomof conscience. However the issue in the sermon is way more complex than standing up and be a voice to the unborn which is laudable. The fact that you won't do an abortion because it's illegal it doesn't make us a more moral society or nation. If you could you would it already makes you guilty of it even if you haven't committed it. There has to be a middle ground where God's commandments can be upheld without the freedom of conscience being trampled on. When we find an excuse( However holy that might be) to trample on the freedom of conscience we only create room for other "holy" situations that alow us to do that in the name of God.
I think the middle ground is the informed consent. It is what God gave us the chance to. We get to experience both good and evil and are free to choose what we want to follow. For this freedom many innocents paid a price throughout the history of humanity. And yet God has been allowing it for the sake of an informed consent of being with Him for eternity. He wants a choice out of love and not fear.
Can you make it clear what you mean with informed consent? Sorry I can't understand your point. Thank you
There is no middle ground
While I agree with much of your post, I believe the middle ground comes from abortion being a much more complicated question that has medical elements I can't know. I believe it is personal because I don't know all the factors. Pregnancy is a complicated condition. A fetus (before viability) has always been and always will be dependent on its mother for life. This is different than slavery. The condition of a slave was not natural dependant on the owner.
This is a very personal moral choice and I cannot in good conscience be the person who makes this choice for someone else.
All this said I am against abortion once a fetus is viable unless there are condition not comparable with life. We live in a day and age where we can provide successful medical care for much younger premees than previous.
@@bemnetmeried4121 By just voting to make this issue illegal, we are only choosing the lesser evil if that's the only choice we have without considering the freedom of conscience. Just because it's illegal it doesn't mean abortions won't happen going forward. There is just going to be a black market for it. You might save the life of some innocent children on the expense of the life of women that will still make that choice for whatever reason. I grew up in a communist country where contraception and abortion were illegal. I can tell you horror stories about the consequences of that. It still doesn't make me pro-abortion. What l mean by informed consent ( probablynot the best choice of words, english is my 4th language as you can tell by my spelling) is that we would rather have a system where these women are informed about both the earthly and eternal consequences of their choice to take a life which belongs to God. This way when they understand the measure of the their transgression it won't be such an easy decision to take a life. And even if they chose abortion their conscience will bear witness to that and down the road as l know many cases they will repent and be closer to God than if they haven't ever committed that sin. I still think this should be a moral issue between them and God( after being informedof the consequences) and not a legal issue streaming from a civil right or not.
I heard that some exceptional cases could be excepted from the law and considered legal. Just because there are going to be legal exceptions it won't make it moral or right with God and they could still loose their souls. Hard to put in words all the little nuances of this issue, l hope it makes my point clearer though.
Alina, no one anywhere has said MEDICAL reasons are wrong. NO ONE ANYWHERE........ BUT those who use abortion for birth control (which is about 90% or more of abortions) is murder. The one thing people are afraid to say is: The cause of pregnancy is a choice. SEX is the cause, it is a choice. Sadly you'll now say "a raped woman didn't choose". AGAIN NO ONE anywhere has said a woman must carry the child produced from rape. --- though God would likely see the precious life of the child and hope the woman would see it's life as precious too.
Since the issue of abortion is about much more than he is saying, I have a hard time giving him credibility. I changed my mind on this issue when, I believe it was the early 80s, a pregnant woman was in an accident and the result was the doctors told the husband (they had two children) that they could save either the baby or the mother but not both and could not guarantee the baby would actually survive. A pro-life group sued to have the courts decide. At that time, I decided that others should not decide a person's life for them, that this was God's business and then in the end God would be the judge. The politicians have and some persons of faith have decided that they have the right to make the decisions and have gone so far as to endanger women's lives for an as yet unborn group of cells which might never become a person. We will not know until heaven if abortion is a sin, we only know that God knows in advance who will live. We only have David's words which express David's belief that the Lord knew Him before he was born and Jeremiah who speaks of God choosing him to be a prophet before he was born. But we have no evidence that He knows all who were not born for surely you must be born to have a purpose. I do not suppose elective abortion after 20 weeks. But even more, this forces a certain Christian viewpoint on non-Christians and God himself gives all free choice.
It’s hard for me to think that you’re even a Christian at all!! (No offense intended) You doubt Gods word as the opinions of those you disagree with on political issues?? That group of cells you speak of is a human being. Now I’m not saying that the courts should have made that decision, but I believe the Pastor was clear when he said, and I agree, that the exceptions to the rule should be worked out in legislation (ie.. incestual rape, life of the mother and child at stake, etc..)
And if you don’t believe God’s word, in its entirety, because it was penned by men, believe the words God wrote with His own finger. Thou Shalt Not Kill!!!!
"We will not know until heaven if abortion is a sin, " The Adventist Church in section (3) of their official position says that abortion is a violation of the sixth commandment, are you saying the Church is wrong?
I think is misguided sermon I ever hear